In one of the podcasts (I think it was truck greavances) Nathan said he occasionally listens to metal music. I'm interested how much our playlists match. From most probable match to least probable: - Rammstein - Burzum - Oomph! - In Extremo - Theatres des Vampires / Lord Vampyr - Saltatio Mortis - Tanzwut - The Ghost of Lemora (which, I know, is technically not metal) - Lacrimosa (yep, not really a metal) - Vroudenspil (same thing) - Versengold (can not be farther off from metal) - Mr. Hurley & die Pulveraffen (you guessed it)
Nathan and Roman on camera together is nostalgic. I remember way back when it was just these two guys, before everyone else came. They got me through a bad period in my life. Thanks guys!!!
Series like this are Nathan's forte. It's a great idea to let other team members rattle off options and features of the shiny new products and allow Nathan's experience and humour to run free in the real world. The ears made me laugh lol.
It would be interesting to repeat this except have a similar gas powered follow the route at the same time at their own pace. Then compare time and cost of each trip at the end.
@@cup_and_cone they spend only 20min or less in every stop… so and ice vehicle don’t going to be really fast… remember you need to go to a restroom and eat something you will be spending the same 20min in every stop… maybe you will save 4 stop along the way most of the ice vehicle can travel 400 miles in a single tank
On May 3, 1903 Horatio Nelson Jackson, Sewall Crocker and a dog named Bud left San Francisco in a Winton Touring car. They arrived in New York City 63-1/2 days later. You guys deserve to be recorded in history just like them.
I have done Boonville CA in Northern California to Mobile Alabama like 5 times. which is about 60 miles from Florida. Solo. The last one was in an IONIC 5 hence why I am here. Spent 0 money on charging. had 0 issues. Great trip. Great Car. Love it!
Great work! Last year I made an even longer trip: San Francisco to Ohio to Florida, and then back to San Francisco--about 8000 miles including side trips! I did it in a Chevy Bolt. Imagine seeing an average charging speed around 40 kW! I wish I had documented it better. I also used mostly Electrify America, but there were some spots I had to rely on Chargepoint. I was driving solo, so I also spent some nights letting the car slow charge while I slept. The next time I drive that loop I'm hoping I-80 across Wyoming will have enough EA stations for me to take that route. I had to duck down through Colorado, which added quite a few miles and hours to the trip.
@@valueofnothing2487 Yep, I think the longest spacing was 148 miles from Asheville NC to Columbia SC. The spacing worked well for the Bolt, but I would have loved some 220kW charges like the Ionic 5 from this video! I'm planning to make that same CA-OH-FL-CA loop in the Bolt again next year!
I know it’s not the point of this series, but I always tell my east coast friends that you really can’t appreciate what an amazing country this is until you drive across it. Even the ridiculous roadside kitsch and Walmart parking lots can give you memories you’ll be talking about for years. My wife and I still laugh about some of stuff we saw driving our Tesla across the country a few times. There’s a Red Robin stop in PA that we always hit before 7am, so could never actually try the Red Robin and had to cross what was basically a highway to get Starbucks and a Sheetz in Ohio where families clearly came to charge there Teslas with the whole family (kids playing, doing homework, etc) like it was a day at the park and the stops in WY that were far enough apart that if the wind was wrong, you had to slow way down to make the next one with any margin of safety. I’d saying doing it in an EV was different, but definitely had it’s upsides when compared to an ICE vehicle.
Flashback! I did most of this same route you cover in this video, San Antonio to the SF Bay Area, a year ago in a BMW i3. Cool seeing all the charging stops (and all the ones you were able to drive past) because I had to hit nearly every single EA location along the way until I got to LA. I was 48 hours door to door (1,700 miles), so I'm rooting for you guys to make it to your FL destination in the same amount of time. Looking forward to Part 2.
This is great fun! I lived in LA for 10 years and made the drive along I-10 from there to Mobile, AL many, many times in a variety of vehicles: SUVs, a convertible, and a 35ft RV. Great to see you guys in all these familiar places.
I started watching y’all 12 years ago when I was 4-5 the first video I watched was something like “what’s it like to live with a Nissan Leaf for a day” and that got me hooked into y’all. A lot of things have changed but one thing that’s stayed consistent with y’all is how well you guys get along for the 14 ish years together. I miss the old days when y’all were in every video together so this video brought a lot of flashbacks the old vids! I hope to one day work for y’all as a visually impaired reviewer! Reach out to me if interested! Great video, great to see the both of y’all’s strong friendship!
So calculating optimum speed for fastest trip is similar to the calculations for an airplane; fly slower to use less fuel to avoid having to land and refuel which is a huge time sink.
I think the biggest factor that will contribute to breaking this record isn’t battery tech, at least in the short term, it will be improvements in charging infrastructure.
19:33 Thank you for calling this out, Nathan. Backing into parking stalls is about the most boy racer thing I can think of, and it's really not where we want to be. Now I don't want to only blame the automakers for this because the issue really is more with the charging providers who still are only rarely providing pull-through charging stalls. The rearward charging port actually does make sense for EV trucks and SUVs that will often be towing, but again, that's only if pull-through charging stalls are available. So it's less about "being cool" by backing into a charging space than it is a functional design used to support charging while towing.
13 minutes into this video and I'm not convinced to buy an electric vehicle any time soon. The range anxiety and charge time alone gives me heart palpitations. Can you imagine telling yourself that you can only fuel your gas vehicle to 80% to achieve an optimal driving experience...hard pass!
Doing this trip once every year in EV’s would not only benefit charity activities; it also reveals the capabilities of charger networks in every region of the country. For people considering the purchase of an EV, every year should demonstrate significant improvement with the quality of range and number of necessary charges.
Check out videos from Norway and Sweden and the like where EVs make up the vast majority of new sales (like, 90% in Norway). There are road trip videos in the winter there showing range isn't an issue. If EVs can make it there in the winter, the US won't be a problem.
My 2022 RAV 4 Hybrid was getting as much as 42- 44 mpg last summer. Now at 0F to 40F, it's getting 36-37 mpg. I find running the heat makes the engine run much more than in temperate weather when i'm using little to no AC or heat . But my last tank was all driving to work and back which is the worst possible fuel mileage i ever get in any car. @Derrick P
My Fusion Hybrid was the same. Fall and Spring it would go around 25 miles fully electric. But winter and summer the gas engine was on almost all the time.
Great idea - love watching these epic journeys and Nathan is a treat to watch! Thank you for suffering through this drive for our entertainment/knowledge. I would be miserable if I had to stop for 20 minutes every two hours (averaging 75 mph)!
The major problem is that most people take a road trip to do tourist stuff the more you get of the interstate the less your going to find fast chargers,this will change, but try driving across Wyoming through through the mountains I.m sure it can be done but your going to spend some time.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Maybe. I don't know. I am using an electric Mustang for the 18 months. I never had any problem charging and it was lot cheaper than gas. Equivalent of 6 cents a kilowatt in USA.
@@lakeofbays1622 It's not a mustang it's a Mach E calling that a Mustang is a bad joke. I'm not saying it's slow but its nothing like a mustang to drive.
@@mbsnyderc Ford calls it a Mustang. So it is a Mustang. I like the quietness of a Mustang Mach-E than the rumble of the gas burning counterpart. For all month $15 electricity.
I have to agree with Nathan on the charging placement. Remember back in thr day when you would pull down thr license plate to get to the gad tank. We need to do to that with ev s
We are all backseat drivers watching your adventure. A screenshot of the spread sheet at the end of the trip would be fun to see. Those of us with PHEV’s think we have the best road trip car. I will accept your challenge, and attempt this in the future with my eTron or my Energi. However, I will be stopping to get a room along the way.
"Like Roman, who yells at grass to grow." thats freakin hilarious. Great video guys, you're holding my attention. Would be amazing if you could clear some Rush to play in the video, but that'd probably wipe out any possible profit. I'll just sing along in my head.
I like how so many scoff at stopping every 150 to 200 miles. It is almost like they drive across country every weekend. For those who are able to charge at home it will save you time and money 99% of your trips.
Right, I just did a 800 round trip 2 weeks ago. I do something like that once every 2ish years. I stopped 6 times total in my Model Y as I was just charging for about 10-15 minutes each time. It was so easy and nice to stop every 1.5-2 hours to stretch, use the restroom, and get food/drinks.
I love you guys. Thanks for sharing your video! I have 2022 vw ID 4 and I will do a road trip from Arizona to Georgia next month and I was really nervous! But not anymore! Thanks!
Thank you for putting out interesting and entertaining videos/stories. Your channels have become my favorite, and I look forward each new series. Roman, Tommy, Andrea, Nathan and the entire staff, congratulations on the success of TFL. I've been following along for years, and its nice to see an honest and entering channel do so well. don't change.
It would be interesting to compare the trip when the Ioniq 6 comes out. The much lower drag should make road trips like this easier and it will still have the great charging speed. In the next couple of years chargers will be more plentiful which will make it easier to do quick 10-15 minute stretch and refresh breaks while topping up a good chunk of battery for the next leg.
I'd love to do this in my Mach-E (when it eventually arrives), but the slower charging would probably make it too painful. Seattle to Anaheim would take long enough that we'd want to stop half way.
where the charge point is on that car is perfect placement. if you cant get it backed in because you are too tired, then you are a danger on the roads. if you reverse in, its safer and more energy efficient. FAR better than the socket in the nose idea in the Leaf.
This is a cool one. I know EV's aren't overly popular yet, but it is a series like this that can show what these cars are capable of today. This Ionic really is probably the best equipped with quick charge times for this task. Infrastructure needs to improve obviously, but these vehicles have a LONG way to go. Improvements are needed all around. Until GM just dropped the price on the Bolt the entire EV marketplace is going the wrong direction. Reliable, affordable, attractive, EFFICIENT EV's are sorely needed. Recharge times are a problem. Charging locations are awful, the charging networks are awful, and not anywhere as capable as the existing infrastructure. Maybe in another 10 years this will approach what we expect from today's infrastructure for EV's. It's not that we aren't interested, we aren't interested in trading what we have for something that isn't as capable as what we have.
I’ve done the Ft. Huachuca, AZ Ft. Bliss, TX trip many, many times. We left from Plant City, FL to get to AZ the first time. Did these trips in a 1978 Pontiac Bonneville.
I’m seeing a lot of comment on a similar thing with a gas car but it already exists. That’s what a cannonball run is. A race from one side of the country to the other as fast as possible. And the current record will probably never be beaten at least not for a long time. It was done in a modified cop car to dodge possible pull overs and and HUGE gas tank. Minimal stops and a lot of illegal activity.
I Loved your Northern Lightning, episodes as you came to my hometown (Fairbanks Alaska). You saw Firsthand, the issues we have in Alaska. One thing I'd like to see in a future episode would be a camping roadtrip where you pull a "typical" travel trailer across country where you do both on AND off grid camping. I think it could really showcase EV issues for those of us who use trucks for towing on a regular basis. I think it would be interesting to see your thoughts on how EV manufacturers could improve regeneration or even a suggestion to Camper manufacturers for Battery implementation or electric Motor integration to help recharge the tow vehicles when coasting. Just some thoughts on future ideas.
Roman, calm down. The grass will grow eventually lol. That Ioniq is a really cool vehicle. It seems to me that if you could go 300 miles with 80 percent of the battery, that would be the sweet spot. Hopefully that will be the standard whether by battery or efficiency. Thanks guys for doing this. Amazing how far EVs have come.
EV technology hasn't changed in the last ten years. These new cars are old technology with no improvements available. Range will not increase,because these cars are designed to limit mobility.
@@nathanchambers985 Yeah, I guess my comment was kinda ignorant. I'm not really in the know. I just think of the leaf and where it started as compared to now. The tech may be the same for all I know. I do wonder why you say they are designed to limit mobility?
Battery technology is at it's peak. What you see today will not change in the future. EV'S are designed to limit mobility,not increase. Petroleum is freedom and the powers that be hate freedom and they know the sheep can be manipulated through social media companies.
I own a EV6 and I would love to know how y'all navigated this trip to find the charging stations. One of the major flaws of this vehicle is that it doesn't navigate based on charging stations. It just shows nearby charging stations. I have to use a 3rd party app, punch in starting point, destination, beginning state of charge and time and it will estimate how many miles I will drive before I need to charge and where to charge and how long I need to charge. Teslas do this standard. How did y'all do it?
Be great if you could give us some details on the navigation system. Are you using the built in system? Android auto or Apple car play? How did you plan charging stops etc? Fun video. Thx
I like Nathan’s musical choice. The last time I drove from Toronto to Halifax it was Rush the whole trip. I actually had more Rush than I could listen to over that 18 hour trip. Any chance of you guys posting a playlist?
Cool, a trip from my hometown to my current home in Central Florida. Interesting. I’m thinking in the near future that the electric infrastructure will improve with the addition of solid state batteries. Children being born today will think this era of vehicles as no big deal.
I'm wishing i would have been born 30 years later, i am very interested in new technology of any kind. But, i may not live to 2050 when many expect EV's and charging to be fully here.
I do find these types of tests very interesting. I would love to know what overall charging cost are from end to end so we could compare miles to $$$ amount for to our own personal travel cost. Just to know if real world saving make it worth considering an E-vehicle. I think they have a long way to go before they are a great option.
Can you explain a bit more about the cost ratio difference with gas vs. electric? Is it cheaper or more expensive to run an EV in highway driving or city driving?
Along the interstates I get to recharge my 83 Mercedes 300TD diesel at the truck stop supercharger with the huge hose/nozzle in 90 seconds to 100%. I'd have to recharge 4 times. Not bad for 900,000 miles.
It would be interesting to compare with the cheapest Hyundai, the Accent. I would love to see how the pair would compare, side to side, over the same route. Both leave at the same time. Both travel at the speed limit. Would be interesting to see how much sooner the ICE vehicle got there and also the fuel costs for both.
We've all been forced to drive gas powered cars until recent. It's so nice to now have an electric option of transportation, because it is a much better overall experience.
I can't speak for the Ioniq 5, but I made a 15.5 hour trip of 886 miles on July 15th in my Tesla Model Y. I spent 108 minutes at Superchargers. The total cost of the trip was $82.45 (this includes the cost to charge at my destination to reach the 90% level that I began the trip). Honestly, of the 108 minutes spent charging, it only felt like a total of 15 minutes of a delay because I was using a restroom, buying a new drink and snacks. Most of the time, when you get back to the car, it has more than enough range to continue your trip for another 2+ hours of driving....where you will need to finish processing the drink, buy another, and possibly eat.
If you calculate the time it took to keep charging going both ways across the country you'll figure out it cost you a crap load of lost time off the ends of your vacation and that is worth a lot more than paying for gas for most people
They say an electric car is great for cross country because it forces you to stop and see the sites, but in reality the sites are just gas station/shopping plaza parking lots, and all it does is cause more stress.
This shows the problem with electric vehicles. Specifically trucks/SUV’s. If you are like me, and fish from a boat, the added time for charging on your way to wherever you fish, means you might need to leave the day before. Since we are on the water an hour before sunrise, the decreased range while towing and 20 plus minutes each time to charge(probably 2-3 charges for me), means an extra day off from work. Just to do what I can do now in 1 day, and 2 tanks of gas. So, is it more efficient to buy electric for everyone?
Hey guys I live in the Tampa Bay area and as you mention in the video you don't see a lot of charging stations in this area I hope Florida gets her to program and adds more stations love the video guys can't wait to see you finish
@@Loyalwhiteknight I agree 100% I'm a gas person born and raised in the state of Florida and our governor just got re elected and I love it the only same state left
what this video taught me is super chargers are a lie. I live in California where ev’s are stacked up unable to get back on the road an on their way. drivers get pissed off missing important deadlines they must attend. Windmills and solar ain’t doing the job Government constantly preaches. Sad brown outs will be worsening very soon
Not sure if its been done yet but I'd be interested in a road trip comparison cost video. Like how much was spent in a full electric vs gas vs diesel. I've always been curious about possible hidden costs with the electric cars. Especially after the Alaska trip where the adapters were tough to match up.
You can do it pretty simply. EV efficiency differs but 4 miles per kWh is a fair number. So that's 0.25 kWh per mile. So 2,500 miles x 0.25 kWh per mile is 625 kWh or electricity needed. The price for electricity varies greatly. If we say 50 cents per kWh that would be very high, even for the fastest chargers available. So let's use that. Basically 312 dollars for the EV. A Honda Civic is common and efficient. It can get 40 mpg on the highway. So over 2,500 miles it needs 62 gallons of gasoline. That means it's about the same as the EV cost if you find gas at 5.03 USD per gallon. Gas is cheaper than that in some places, but electricity is cheaper than 50 cents per kWh in most places. So it really depends on where you are. Now, where the EV is the clear winner is when you're not road tripping it. The higher cost of the electricity is for the convenience of using ultra high powered charging stations. If you are using it for commuting from your house and charging in your garage or driveway you will pay a lot less for electricity in most states. Some power companies even give you special rates if you prove you own an EV. Suppose you pay 15 cents per kWh for electricity. That is average or so across the nation. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 has a 77 kWh battery. So 0.15 * 77 is about 12 bucks to fill the entire battery. That's 250 miles of range for the AWD version. so about 5 cents per mile driven when commuting. The rear wheel version is about 300 miles of range, so even better. The Civic? Well, to spend 5 cents per mile driven you need to find gasoline at 2 dollars per gallon. Can you? Maybe. But you can also find some states where electricity is closer to 10 cents per kWh! Some places offer free charging. I've never received free gasoline at a hotel or shopping mall! Bottom line - The cost benefit depends on how you are charging the car and what the cost of gas is where you are going (surprise! I think we all knew this). And EVs become pretty much untouchable when used as a commuter vehicle where you can charge at home more cheaply. And if you are in a situation where it's about even, consider the EV if you can afford their higher price. Depending on where your electricity is coming from it can be much better for the environment over the lifetime of the car. The efficiency is just so much better. Most EVs have efficiency of over 100 mpge, which is a measurement that says if you used a magic wand to turn a gallon of gasoline into the equivalent electrical energy then the EV can go over 100 miles, compared to the Civic's 40, or turbodiesel's 50, 60, ... less than 100! So large EVs like the Tesla model S or X run their entire range on about 3 gallons of gasoline in an energy sense. So even if you generated your electricity from burning gasoline in a commercial power plant, you'd still be better charging the EV with that dirty electricity than burning it in a car's engine! Car engines are that inefficient!
@@nonconsensualopinion When I said hidden costs I meant things like having to buy different adapters or having to stay an extra hotel night somewhere to charge up or even having to pay someone to use their outlet in an emergency. If theres different charging companies and the one you use doesnt have a station nearby so you have to sign up for a different one. Maybe something similar to the hummer ev happens and it needs a tow and the local mechanic wont touch it because its electric. Things like that is what I was curious about. Efficiency estimates are nice but sometimes they dont mean a thing out in the real world.
Your chickens don't ride motorcycles on top of cars in Colorado??? Denver sounds like a sad place. Btw...They have great food there. You should visit next time you're in town.
11:07 The good thing about the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and other E-GMP cars is that there's only about a 3 minute difference between using 150 kW and 350 kW chargers. Some of the higher current EVs lose a lot more time if they're forced to use the 150 kW units. 11:56 Okay, so the bigger issue here is that that charger is also not operating at full power. If you're only seeing 60 to 70 kW, it means that it is currently derated, probably due to a bad thermistor (most likely) or broken coolant system.
Acctually since charging is so much faster than consumption you'll need to go very fast to make it slower not to charge more often. If I remember right the sweet spot for Model 3 is about 230kmh if you can charge it at gen 3 chargers or Ionitys 350 or 450kW. That's if chargers isn't to far apart since range will be short at 230kmh.
I really like your content and to be honest better than Top Gear (car show from UK) I'm looking forward to part 2 as someday my wife and I would love to drive across the US in a XC70. Currently live across the pond. Keep the car reviews coming. Once again great channel.
So, if I have to worry about getting 200 miles down the road every time I pull over (Every 3 hours or so) and have to worry about getting the next 200 miles or so after a 1 + hour charge , that sucks. An electric vehicle is not in my future. Not even close.
For me the goal should be a 250 mile highway range. It would probably be less in the mountains obviously but I think if you can drive for 3 hours at 70 mph by then I would be ready for a break anyway. If the breaks are only 15 to 20 minutes I think that would keep a reasonable pace. Yes you can go through a drive through in a gas car and keep going if your bladder can support it but I tend to only drive 3 hours, stop for a gas, bathroom and food break, then go again. We are getting close to that being realistic.
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In one of the podcasts (I think it was truck greavances) Nathan said he occasionally listens to metal music.
I'm interested how much our playlists match.
From most probable match to least probable:
- Rammstein
- Burzum
- Oomph!
- In Extremo
- Theatres des Vampires / Lord Vampyr
- Saltatio Mortis
- Tanzwut
- The Ghost of Lemora (which, I know, is technically not metal)
- Lacrimosa (yep, not really a metal)
- Vroudenspil (same thing)
- Versengold (can not be farther off from metal)
- Mr. Hurley & die Pulveraffen (you guessed it)
At times, the guy with the beard sounds like George Costanza of Seinfeld!
Nathan and Roman on camera together is nostalgic. I remember way back when it was just these two guys, before everyone else came. They got me through a bad period in my life. Thanks guys!!!
You are most welcome
Series like this are Nathan's forte. It's a great idea to let other team members rattle off options and features of the shiny new products and allow Nathan's experience and humour to run free in the real world. The ears made me laugh lol.
Lead people on so many TH-cam channels need to relax and let teams work.
he made him self look Florida native 🤣🤣🤣
It would be interesting to repeat this except have a similar gas powered follow the route at the same time at their own pace. Then compare time and cost of each trip at the end.
TBH, a gas car would probably finish half a day ahead when you add up all the charge time vs a fraction of the stops at 5 minutes each.
Excellent idea.
DO it with a Toyota Prius and i bet it would be far faster and probably cheaper.
@@zachlafond2652 plus, your car wouldn’t cost $60k.
@@cup_and_cone they spend only 20min or less in every stop… so and ice vehicle don’t going to be really fast… remember you need to go to a restroom and eat something you will be spending the same 20min in every stop… maybe you will save 4 stop along the way most of the ice vehicle can travel 400 miles in a single tank
On May 3, 1903 Horatio Nelson Jackson, Sewall Crocker and a dog named Bud left San Francisco in a Winton Touring car. They arrived in New York City 63-1/2 days later. You guys deserve to be recorded in history just like them.
They would, but the EV cannonball record currently stands at 42 hours 17 minutes on the NY-LA route. Beating that would require immense effort...
I have done Boonville CA in Northern California to Mobile Alabama like 5 times. which is about 60 miles from Florida. Solo. The last one was in an IONIC 5 hence why I am here. Spent 0 money on charging. had 0 issues. Great trip. Great Car. Love it!
Great work! Last year I made an even longer trip: San Francisco to Ohio to Florida, and then back to San Francisco--about 8000 miles including side trips! I did it in a Chevy Bolt. Imagine seeing an average charging speed around 40 kW! I wish I had documented it better.
I also used mostly Electrify America, but there were some spots I had to rely on Chargepoint. I was driving solo, so I also spent some nights letting the car slow charge while I slept. The next time I drive that loop I'm hoping I-80 across Wyoming will have enough EA stations for me to take that route. I had to duck down through Colorado, which added quite a few miles and hours to the trip.
So all these stations are within 100 mi or so with each other or maybe 150?
@@valueofnothing2487 Yep, I think the longest spacing was 148 miles from Asheville NC to Columbia SC. The spacing worked well for the Bolt, but I would have loved some 220kW charges like the Ionic 5 from this video! I'm planning to make that same CA-OH-FL-CA loop in the Bolt again next year!
@@atoz09093 Very cool. I might get one of those if it's not too late.
This will be more of a cannonball roll than a cannonball run.
Cannonball walk
This was definitely a old man series lol
I know it’s not the point of this series, but I always tell my east coast friends that you really can’t appreciate what an amazing country this is until you drive across it. Even the ridiculous roadside kitsch and Walmart parking lots can give you memories you’ll be talking about for years. My wife and I still laugh about some of stuff we saw driving our Tesla across the country a few times. There’s a Red Robin stop in PA that we always hit before 7am, so could never actually try the Red Robin and had to cross what was basically a highway to get Starbucks and a Sheetz in Ohio where families clearly came to charge there Teslas with the whole family (kids playing, doing homework, etc) like it was a day at the park and the stops in WY that were far enough apart that if the wind was wrong, you had to slow way down to make the next one with any margin of safety. I’d saying doing it in an EV was different, but definitely had it’s upsides when compared to an ICE vehicle.
I did a trip in my BMW i3 from San Antonio, TX to Seattle, WA last year. Super fun! Safe travels!
I've made the trip from Houston to LA at least six times. Half the trip is spent crossing Texas.
Its super cool y'all took the time to show how this is possible
Good video guys. I love road-trip and Nathan is a natural funny guy! Let’s see what happens with the next video! 👍👍👍
Flashback! I did most of this same route you cover in this video, San Antonio to the SF Bay Area, a year ago in a BMW i3. Cool seeing all the charging stops (and all the ones you were able to drive past) because I had to hit nearly every single EA location along the way until I got to LA. I was 48 hours door to door (1,700 miles), so I'm rooting for you guys to make it to your FL destination in the same amount of time. Looking forward to Part 2.
This is great fun! I lived in LA for 10 years and made the drive along I-10 from there to Mobile, AL many, many times in a variety of vehicles: SUVs, a convertible, and a 35ft RV. Great to see you guys in all these familiar places.
I started watching y’all 12 years ago when I was 4-5 the first video I watched was something like “what’s it like to live with a Nissan Leaf for a day” and that got me hooked into y’all. A lot of things have changed but one thing that’s stayed consistent with y’all is how well you guys get along for the 14 ish years together. I miss the old days when y’all were in every video together so this video brought a lot of flashbacks the old vids! I hope to one day work for y’all as a visually impaired reviewer! Reach out to me if interested! Great video, great to see the both of y’all’s strong friendship!
That's right, y'all.
@@anthonyc1883 All y'all
You started watching car review videos at age 4 or 5? You are only 16 or 17 yrs old now? 🤣😆😃🤪🤑🤐 Just seems funny.
It's funny how Nathan is the only TFL'r that can handle and keep Roman's nagging/Karening out in check lol
Well, Tommy can go toe-to-toe with Roman, too.
So calculating optimum speed for fastest trip is similar to the calculations for an airplane; fly slower to use less fuel to avoid having to land and refuel which is a huge time sink.
I think the biggest factor that will contribute to breaking this record isn’t battery tech, at least in the short term, it will be improvements in charging infrastructure.
I did the same journey 30 years ago. As a Brit is was a great way to see the variety of the country.
If these cars are the model T of electric vehicles, I can't wait for the next generation.
It bothers me when people say electric cars are in their model T era. They're not and y'all are delusional
That era was 100 plus yrs ago.
I like the map , would be cool to put a dot on the stops and how much each charge cost
19:33 Thank you for calling this out, Nathan. Backing into parking stalls is about the most boy racer thing I can think of, and it's really not where we want to be. Now I don't want to only blame the automakers for this because the issue really is more with the charging providers who still are only rarely providing pull-through charging stalls. The rearward charging port actually does make sense for EV trucks and SUVs that will often be towing, but again, that's only if pull-through charging stalls are available. So it's less about "being cool" by backing into a charging space than it is a functional design used to support charging while towing.
I don’t have an electric car but this episode gave me range anxiety yeeesh
did a 2500 mile road trip from Boonville CA to Mobile Alabama. It was a blast. Just got here last Wednesday. I-10 baby
13 minutes into this video and I'm not convinced to buy an electric vehicle any time soon. The range anxiety and charge time alone gives me heart palpitations.
Can you imagine telling yourself that you can only fuel your gas vehicle to 80% to achieve an optimal driving experience...hard pass!
Rush and a killer stereo, great for a road trip!
You should challenge Out Of Spec studios to a cannonball EV race. I think it’s be fun to see both teams go head to head.
Doing this trip once every year in EV’s would not only benefit charity activities; it also reveals the capabilities of charger networks in every region of the country. For people considering the purchase of an EV, every year should demonstrate significant improvement with the quality of range and number of necessary charges.
I really want to see some winter testing and using snow tire's. My RAV4 hybrid is really affected by cold weather.
How so? Was looking at the rav4
Check out videos from Norway and Sweden and the like where EVs make up the vast majority of new sales (like, 90% in Norway). There are road trip videos in the winter there showing range isn't an issue. If EVs can make it there in the winter, the US won't be a problem.
My 2022 RAV 4 Hybrid was getting as much as 42- 44 mpg last summer. Now at 0F to 40F, it's getting 36-37 mpg. I find running the heat makes the engine run much more than in temperate weather when i'm using little to no AC or heat . But my last tank was all driving to work and back which is the worst possible fuel mileage i ever get in any car. @Derrick P
My Fusion Hybrid was the same. Fall and Spring it would go around 25 miles fully electric. But winter and summer the gas engine was on almost all the time.
Great idea - love watching these epic journeys and Nathan is a treat to watch! Thank you for suffering through this drive for our entertainment/knowledge. I would be miserable if I had to stop for 20 minutes every two hours (averaging 75 mph)!
The major problem is that most people take a road trip to do tourist stuff the more you get of the interstate the less your going to find fast chargers,this will change, but try driving across Wyoming through through the mountains I.m sure it can be done but your going to spend some time.
Give 3 more years.
@@lakeofbays1622 it won't really be that different in 3 years. It'll probably be worse actually
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Maybe. I don't know. I am using an electric Mustang for the 18 months. I never had any problem charging and it was lot cheaper than gas. Equivalent of 6 cents a kilowatt in USA.
@@lakeofbays1622 It's not a mustang it's a Mach E calling that a Mustang is a bad joke. I'm not saying it's slow but its nothing like a mustang to drive.
@@mbsnyderc Ford calls it a Mustang. So it is a Mustang. I like the quietness of a Mustang Mach-E than the rumble of the gas burning counterpart. For all month $15 electricity.
I have to agree with Nathan on the charging placement. Remember back in thr day when you would pull down thr license plate to get to the gad tank. We need to do to that with ev s
We are all backseat drivers watching your adventure. A screenshot of the spread sheet at the end of the trip would be fun to see. Those of us with PHEV’s think we have the best road trip car. I will accept your challenge, and attempt this in the future with my eTron or my Energi. However, I will be stopping to get a room along the way.
"Like Roman, who yells at grass to grow." thats freakin hilarious. Great video guys, you're holding my attention. Would be amazing if you could clear some Rush to play in the video, but that'd probably wipe out any possible profit. I'll just sing along in my head.
I like how so many scoff at stopping every 150 to 200 miles. It is almost like they drive across country every weekend. For those who are able to charge at home it will save you time and money 99% of your trips.
Same here. I mean, how many people drive 2,000 miles one way frequently? I drive an 800ish mile trip once every 5 years or so at the most.
Right, I just did a 800 round trip 2 weeks ago. I do something like that once every 2ish years. I stopped 6 times total in my Model Y as I was just charging for about 10-15 minutes each time. It was so easy and nice to stop every 1.5-2 hours to stretch, use the restroom, and get food/drinks.
I love you guys. Thanks for sharing your video! I have 2022 vw ID 4 and I will do a road trip from Arizona to Georgia next month and I was really nervous! But not anymore! Thanks!
Thank you for putting out interesting and entertaining videos/stories. Your channels have become my favorite, and I look forward each new series. Roman, Tommy, Andrea, Nathan and the entire staff, congratulations on the success of TFL. I've been following along for years, and its nice to see an honest and entering channel do so well. don't change.
Thanks for watching and the nice comment!
It would be interesting to compare the trip when the Ioniq 6 comes out. The much lower drag should make road trips like this easier and it will still have the great charging speed.
In the next couple of years chargers will be more plentiful which will make it easier to do quick 10-15 minute stretch and refresh breaks while topping up a good chunk of battery for the next leg.
I'd love to do this in my Mach-E (when it eventually arrives), but the slower charging would probably make it too painful. Seattle to Anaheim would take long enough that we'd want to stop half way.
I love it. Hey, can you guys use carscanner and read the battery State of Health after 5k miles of DCFC? Thanks.
where the charge point is on that car is perfect placement. if you cant get it backed in because you are too tired, then you are a danger on the roads. if you reverse in, its safer and more energy efficient. FAR better than the socket in the nose idea in the Leaf.
This is a cool one. I know EV's aren't overly popular yet, but it is a series like this that can show what these cars are capable of today. This Ionic really is probably the best equipped with quick charge times for this task. Infrastructure needs to improve obviously, but these vehicles have a LONG way to go. Improvements are needed all around. Until GM just dropped the price on the Bolt the entire EV marketplace is going the wrong direction. Reliable, affordable, attractive, EFFICIENT EV's are sorely needed. Recharge times are a problem. Charging locations are awful, the charging networks are awful, and not anywhere as capable as the existing infrastructure. Maybe in another 10 years this will approach what we expect from today's infrastructure for EV's. It's not that we aren't interested, we aren't interested in trading what we have for something that isn't as capable as what we have.
This is easily the coolest vehicle Hyundai has ever made.
So weird seeing the small videos at the chargers and now seeing the long version of the trip.
I’ve done the Ft. Huachuca, AZ Ft. Bliss, TX trip many, many times. We left from Plant City, FL to get to AZ the first time. Did these trips in a 1978 Pontiac Bonneville.
Good start to a new series.
I’m seeing a lot of comment on a similar thing with a gas car but it already exists. That’s what a cannonball run is. A race from one side of the country to the other as fast as possible. And the current record will probably never be beaten at least not for a long time. It was done in a modified cop car to dodge possible pull overs and and HUGE gas tank. Minimal stops and a lot of illegal activity.
I Loved your Northern Lightning, episodes as you came to my hometown (Fairbanks Alaska). You saw Firsthand, the issues we have in Alaska. One thing I'd like to see in a future episode would be a camping roadtrip where you pull a "typical" travel trailer across country where you do both on AND off grid camping. I think it could really showcase EV issues for those of us who use trucks for towing on a regular basis. I think it would be interesting to see your thoughts on how EV manufacturers could improve regeneration or even a suggestion to Camper manufacturers for Battery implementation or electric Motor integration to help recharge the tow vehicles when coasting. Just some thoughts on future ideas.
No playlist on FLC website for Nathan-themed road trips?
Roman, calm down. The grass will grow eventually lol. That Ioniq is a really cool vehicle. It seems to me that if you could go 300 miles with 80 percent of the battery, that would be the sweet spot. Hopefully that will be the standard whether by battery or efficiency. Thanks guys for doing this. Amazing how far EVs have come.
EV technology hasn't changed in the last ten years. These new cars are old technology with no improvements available. Range will not increase,because these cars are designed to limit mobility.
@@nathanchambers985 Yeah, I guess my comment was kinda ignorant. I'm not really in the know. I just think of the leaf and where it started as compared to now. The tech may be the same for all I know. I do wonder why you say they are designed to limit mobility?
@TFLcar great video. Thanks a lot for what you are doing. It would be really interesting to see the same test with Ford Lightning.
Nicely done! Buying an ioniq if they can update to higher 300s for range in a few years. And better autonomous features.
Battery technology is at it's peak. What you see today will not change in the future. EV'S are designed to limit mobility,not increase. Petroleum is freedom and the powers that be hate freedom and they know the sheep can be manipulated through social media companies.
@@nathanchambers985 ok bot! You would’ve kept us in horse n buggy. Stop causing bot-like confusion on these platforms.
I own a EV6 and I would love to know how y'all navigated this trip to find the charging stations. One of the major flaws of this vehicle is that it doesn't navigate based on charging stations. It just shows nearby charging stations. I have to use a 3rd party app, punch in starting point, destination, beginning state of charge and time and it will estimate how many miles I will drive before I need to charge and where to charge and how long I need to charge. Teslas do this standard. How did y'all do it?
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Wow. Remember the days when people took a vacation to relax and enjoy sights and sounds?…now it’s all about anxiety and mathematics!
I would like to know when you get to Orlando two things. Total time waiting while charging and the cost of charging for the entire trip. Thank you.
Looking forward to part two. Want to see how you got stuck in Downtown Houston - it's pretty hard to get stuck on the HOV coming in from the west...
Be great if you could give us some details on the navigation system. Are you using the built in system? Android auto or Apple car play? How did you plan charging stops etc? Fun video. Thx
I like Nathan’s musical choice. The last time I drove from Toronto to Halifax it was Rush the whole trip. I actually had more Rush than I could listen to over that 18 hour trip.
Any chance of you guys posting a playlist?
Cool, a trip from my hometown to my current home in Central Florida. Interesting. I’m thinking in the near future that the electric infrastructure will improve with the addition of solid state batteries. Children being born today will think this era of vehicles as no big deal.
I'm wishing i would have been born 30 years later, i am very interested in new technology of any kind. But, i may not live to 2050 when many expect EV's and charging to be fully here.
Last year, Nikki from transport evolved drove from Portland , Maine to Portland Oregon on a Chevrolet Bolt
I do find these types of tests very interesting. I would love to know what overall charging cost are from end to end so we could compare miles to $$$ amount for to our own personal travel cost. Just to know if real world saving make it worth considering an E-vehicle. I think they have a long way to go before they are a great option.
Can you explain a bit more about the cost ratio difference with gas vs. electric? Is it cheaper or more expensive to run an EV in highway driving or city driving?
That car is great but represents the gleaming alloy air car in Red Barchetta.
Along the interstates I get to recharge my 83 Mercedes 300TD diesel at the truck stop supercharger with the huge hose/nozzle in 90 seconds to 100%. I'd have to recharge 4 times. Not bad for 900,000 miles.
It would be interesting to compare with the cheapest Hyundai, the Accent. I would love to see how the pair would compare, side to side, over the same route. Both leave at the same time. Both travel at the speed limit. Would be interesting to see how much sooner the ICE vehicle got there and also the fuel costs for both.
We've all been forced to drive gas powered cars until recent. It's so nice to now have an electric option of transportation, because it is a much better overall experience.
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Would have been nice to tell us what it cost to charge up each stop?
@@AbolishCommunism OK, but a total cost is published at the end of the video.
I’d love to see a cost analysis, and a cost/time analysis.
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH! You'll ruin it.
It's probably coming, as part of the wrap-up.
I can't speak for the Ioniq 5, but I made a 15.5 hour trip of 886 miles on July 15th in my Tesla Model Y. I spent 108 minutes at Superchargers. The total cost of the trip was $82.45 (this includes the cost to charge at my destination to reach the 90% level that I began the trip).
Honestly, of the 108 minutes spent charging, it only felt like a total of 15 minutes of a delay because I was using a restroom, buying a new drink and snacks. Most of the time, when you get back to the car, it has more than enough range to continue your trip for another 2+ hours of driving....where you will need to finish processing the drink, buy another, and possibly eat.
If you calculate the time it took to keep charging going both ways across the country you'll figure out it cost you a crap load of lost time off the ends of your vacation and that is worth a lot more than paying for gas for most people
They say an electric car is great for cross country because it forces you to stop and see the sites, but in reality the sites are just gas station/shopping plaza parking lots, and all it does is cause more stress.
Reminds me of a family road trip in a propane powered RV. Lots planning and range anxiety!
They say its cheaper but when you have to stop that long youre more likely to spend food eating out, shopping, etc while you wait haha
@@WhaddupImJohn I’m more likely to snooze.
@@WhaddupImJohn I combine it with potty breaks.
It doesn’t cause any stress as long as there isn’t a line at the charger.
This shows the problem with electric vehicles. Specifically trucks/SUV’s. If you are like me, and fish from a boat, the added time for charging on your way to wherever you fish, means you might need to leave the day before. Since we are on the water an hour before sunrise, the decreased range while towing and 20 plus minutes each time to charge(probably 2-3 charges for me), means an extra day off from work. Just to do what I can do now in 1 day, and 2 tanks of gas. So, is it more efficient to buy electric for everyone?
This whole “transition “ is stupid lol.
Hey guys I live in the Tampa Bay area and as you mention in the video you don't see a lot of charging stations in this area I hope Florida gets her to program and adds more stations love the video guys can't wait to see you finish
That's because people in Florida are sane unlike goofy California which I guarantee have the most charging stations.
@@Loyalwhiteknight I agree 100% I'm a gas person born and raised in the state of Florida and our governor just got re elected and I love it the only same state left
what this video taught me is super chargers are a lie. I live in California where ev’s are stacked up unable to get back on the road an on their way. drivers get pissed off missing important deadlines they must attend.
Windmills and solar ain’t doing the job Government constantly preaches. Sad brown outs will be worsening very soon
LOVE these EV road trip videos!!!
Why is it hard to back in? Is the backup camera poor quality?
I wondered the same thing. I back in everywhere I can because backing out is more dangerous.
I like the fact for the reason the team wants to do this is because Electric cars are the future. Can we have this same trip during the winter time ?
It’s not a “splash and dash”, it’s a “volt and bolt”!
Beautifull scenes, congratulations my friend 🙏✋
“Bricks into the wind.” That’s why I got an Ioniq 6!
Not sure if its been done yet but I'd be interested in a road trip comparison cost video. Like how much was spent in a full electric vs gas vs diesel.
I've always been curious about possible hidden costs with the electric cars. Especially after the Alaska trip where the adapters were tough to match up.
Diesel? Whose car/truck uses diesel fuel? How about electric verses unleaded gas, which 96-98% of cars/trucks on the road use? Deisel? 😄😁😆😅🤣😂🙂😛🤑😝
You can do it pretty simply. EV efficiency differs but 4 miles per kWh is a fair number. So that's 0.25 kWh per mile. So 2,500 miles x 0.25 kWh per mile is 625 kWh or electricity needed. The price for electricity varies greatly. If we say 50 cents per kWh that would be very high, even for the fastest chargers available. So let's use that. Basically 312 dollars for the EV.
A Honda Civic is common and efficient. It can get 40 mpg on the highway. So over 2,500 miles it needs 62 gallons of gasoline. That means it's about the same as the EV cost if you find gas at 5.03 USD per gallon.
Gas is cheaper than that in some places, but electricity is cheaper than 50 cents per kWh in most places. So it really depends on where you are. Now, where the EV is the clear winner is when you're not road tripping it. The higher cost of the electricity is for the convenience of using ultra high powered charging stations. If you are using it for commuting from your house and charging in your garage or driveway you will pay a lot less for electricity in most states. Some power companies even give you special rates if you prove you own an EV. Suppose you pay 15 cents per kWh for electricity. That is average or so across the nation. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 has a 77 kWh battery. So 0.15 * 77 is about 12 bucks to fill the entire battery. That's 250 miles of range for the AWD version. so about 5 cents per mile driven when commuting. The rear wheel version is about 300 miles of range, so even better.
The Civic? Well, to spend 5 cents per mile driven you need to find gasoline at 2 dollars per gallon. Can you? Maybe. But you can also find some states where electricity is closer to 10 cents per kWh! Some places offer free charging. I've never received free gasoline at a hotel or shopping mall!
Bottom line - The cost benefit depends on how you are charging the car and what the cost of gas is where you are going (surprise! I think we all knew this). And EVs become pretty much untouchable when used as a commuter vehicle where you can charge at home more cheaply. And if you are in a situation where it's about even, consider the EV if you can afford their higher price. Depending on where your electricity is coming from it can be much better for the environment over the lifetime of the car.
The efficiency is just so much better. Most EVs have efficiency of over 100 mpge, which is a measurement that says if you used a magic wand to turn a gallon of gasoline into the equivalent electrical energy then the EV can go over 100 miles, compared to the Civic's 40, or turbodiesel's 50, 60, ... less than 100! So large EVs like the Tesla model S or X run their entire range on about 3 gallons of gasoline in an energy sense. So even if you generated your electricity from burning gasoline in a commercial power plant, you'd still be better charging the EV with that dirty electricity than burning it in a car's engine! Car engines are that inefficient!
@@nonconsensualopinion When I said hidden costs I meant things like having to buy different adapters or having to stay an extra hotel night somewhere to charge up or even having to pay someone to use their outlet in an emergency. If theres different charging companies and the one you use doesnt have a station nearby so you have to sign up for a different one. Maybe something similar to the hummer ev happens and it needs a tow and the local mechanic wont touch it because its electric. Things like that is what I was curious about.
Efficiency estimates are nice but sometimes they dont mean a thing out in the real world.
Your chickens don't ride motorcycles on top of cars in Colorado??? Denver sounds like a sad place.
Btw...They have great food there. You should visit next time you're in town.
Is TFL going to add a 'stereo system test ' using RUSH as a baseline?
More like bassline! Haha
11:07 The good thing about the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and other E-GMP cars is that there's only about a 3 minute difference between using 150 kW and 350 kW chargers. Some of the higher current EVs lose a lot more time if they're forced to use the 150 kW units.
11:56 Okay, so the bigger issue here is that that charger is also not operating at full power. If you're only seeing 60 to 70 kW, it means that it is currently derated, probably due to a bad thermistor (most likely) or broken coolant system.
Run Route 66 next time! See how convenient it is to charge along the historical road.
Acctually since charging is so much faster than consumption you'll need to go very fast to make it slower not to charge more often. If I remember right the sweet spot for Model 3 is about 230kmh if you can charge it at gen 3 chargers or Ionitys 350 or 450kW. That's if chargers isn't to far apart since range will be short at 230kmh.
I thoroughly enjoyed this guys
Great video! How much it cost to charge to 80% approximately? And how does that compare to gas
Kinda thinking maybe there should of been 3 cars with three teams all have different charging curves and see who makes it first
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Can’t stand the idea that I have to drive an electric car slower. I want to be able to drive at a steady 120kph+ on the highway.
I really like your content and to be honest better than Top Gear (car show from UK) I'm looking forward to part 2 as someday my wife and I would love to drive across the US in a XC70. Currently live across the pond. Keep the car reviews coming. Once again great channel.
Thanks for the kind comment.
Music: Looks like SXM Chill channel to me on your dash. My favorite.
Someone should try to beat this record with one of the worst economy cars like a geo metro.
please do more road trip videos.............btw how did the mexican coke taste like? 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
I know a majority of folks can't drive for crap and can't back into spots, but even Nathan? Come on. The backup camera was invented for this reason
So, if I have to worry about getting 200 miles down the road every time I pull over (Every 3 hours or so) and have to worry about getting the next 200 miles or so after a 1 + hour charge , that sucks. An electric vehicle is not in my future. Not even close.
Great video guys!!
For me the goal should be a 250 mile highway range. It would probably be less in the mountains obviously but I think if you can drive for 3 hours at 70 mph by then I would be ready for a break anyway. If the breaks are only 15 to 20 minutes I think that would keep a reasonable pace. Yes you can go through a drive through in a gas car and keep going if your bladder can support it but I tend to only drive 3 hours, stop for a gas, bathroom and food break, then go again. We are getting close to that being realistic.
Love watching these trips
How much did you spend on charging total for the trip?
? It's stated on-screen at the end of the video
I hope you guys do this again but do the route 66 with a different EV of course.