Thanks mate! Your take away is spot on, and probably extends back even furthar as I've had 4wds from the 80s and 90s that performed similar on the same track. Where the newer cars excel is more on the comfort side of things (aside from the rear lockers that most come with factory now - that makes a noticible difference on tracks prone to wheel lift).
@@explorebound It was a little bit of a panacea for me - I have a 2002 4x4 that runs well (has only a rear LSD) and cost me a fraction of a newer unit - 140k on the clock, so relatively new...bits are a bit harder to find though.
Heading down to Yeagerup in my 07 PJ this weekend, mate is coming in his 19 PX3. Might have to see how they compare. Enjoying the content you both put out and looking forward to more in the future!
Nice episode and something a bit different as not many have the luxury of comparing new and old vehicles. I am keen to head out and check Mundaring but worry on breaking on stock height suspension. Cheers and looking forward to many more episodes 🍻
Thanks Luke, appreciate that! The track is certainly a lot of fun and I'd definitely recommend giving it a go - you could even try it on stock suspension as there's easier tracks to get around the particularly gnarly parts of the track. 🙂
Before I start watching the clip. I think that the 14 year newer 4wd comes out heaps better you would say ( part 2 ) As I thought it would be. Great clip guys. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Jack! We found both vehicles to perform quite similarly in a lot of situations, and will complete most tracks, the Dmax will is just a bit more controlled thanks to the rear locker. 🙂
Yeah the fronts scrub a bit here and there unfortunately - good pickup. I was hesitant going the 33s for that exact reason but a lot of people run the exact same size without rub on the same rim offset so bit of a mystery what's going on there! Luckily it only touches on the plastic mud guards which can be removed, so might look at modifying those or lifting the front slightly.
I have a 2019 dmax and really only 4x4 along the flat beaches when away and use it to tow my van and it works perfect for me. Keep a check on front body mounts cracking as this could apparently cause inner guard cracks on the wings, I have less than 30,000k and mine need replacing and it as never been driven hard.
Yeah I've heard a bit about the cracking on that model and sorry to hear you've been affected - that must be a hastle on such a new car! I've got my fingers crossed that they sorted the issue for the MY21+ but time will tell I guess. 😬
@@explorebound Not that bad, just rubber body mounts cracked on mine easy fix to replace and being done under warranty. Check out lowrange nicks video very informative.
Do you find the Ranger ride quality [comfort] suffers road or dirt with the upgraded torsion bars .?? The quality of early Ranger rear LSD was terrible . Most dont work after 100,000km .
Thanks mate! Yep they're definitely on the list for when the budget allows - was a bit worried about banging the sills on a few sections of the track. 😅
I'd definitely recommend checking it out - it's a fun track! Yep since filming this one the Ranger has gone off to her new home, sad to see it go but it's going to be appreciated by it's new owner. 🙂
Unfamiliar with WA number plate standards, and just noticed the plate on the Ranger now. Is the plate legit? 'Coz if it is, wow! 9 letters! We're only allowed maximum of 6 characters in NSW.
@@explorebound Maybe line it with felt or rubber. Bunnings sell felt or rubber sheets (or rolls) with self-adhesive back. Perfect for that application.
@@biancaspice6409 I actually found that segment funny. 😂 Purely because I can relate, and would have done the same thing you did. Rattles and/or squeaks in vehicles, annoy the heck out of me. They're my pet hate.
None at all, the cheapest Ranger with the new 3L engine is $20k more than I paid for the Dmax and they don't come in manual which was a must for me. Aside from that, the main reason I went down the Dmax route for Isuzu's track record with long lasting engines - hoping this will be a very long-term vehicle for me. 🙂
Good spot! We actually reckon the Ranger would have gotten through if we’d tried it again on the same line as the D-Max! But didn’t wanna push her too hard 😊
@@explorebound No mate..... Ridiculous is the word to describe your comparison test. No genuine 4x4 person would take this as being serious in any logical way. I can't stop laughing!!
Well mate, you’re the first of 19,000 people to not comprehend the point of the video, but happy to spell it out for you. This video is a basic comparison between an older 4wd ute and a newer model to assist people who might be contemplating an upgrade but wondering if there’s dramatic difference in off-road performance. Please remember the world doesn’t revolve around you, and just because you were after something else it doesn’t mean this doesn’t have value to others.
@@explorebound There are many reasons to upgrade from a 25 year old 4x4 to a 1 year old 4x4, but the only reason you have given is that the D-Max has a rear diff locker and the ranger doesn't, so that's certainly not a fair evaluation at all. I am not being funny or stupid in my reasoning here, I am simply saying that a 2022 D-Max vs a 2022 Ranger is a far more realistic comparison between the two Utes.
Yes and no, where the ranger got stuck, a mates mux was having some issues he got thru it but a bit faster, it had a bigger lift, tyres, coil rear so more flex but the traction control system let him down, so it wasnt going anywhere a bone stock triton (new driver aswell) did it easier as the traction control system worked better so he did it slower, you can be the best driver in the world, if the wheels dont have traction be it lack of grip or in the air, you cant fix that, hence why lockers or a good traction control system can help minimse 4wd and track damage
@avn that’s quite an ignorant comment. We’ve never claimed to be ‘experts’ nor did we say the car was the only factor affecting performance. The point of this video was just to show that the average person won’t experience a dramatic difference between the two in general off roading. @Tom spot on 👍
What a great idea - a new and old comparison! Nicely done.
My take away is that little has changed in terms of 4x4 capabilities over 15 years.
Thanks mate! Your take away is spot on, and probably extends back even furthar as I've had 4wds from the 80s and 90s that performed similar on the same track. Where the newer cars excel is more on the comfort side of things (aside from the rear lockers that most come with factory now - that makes a noticible difference on tracks prone to wheel lift).
@@explorebound It was a little bit of a panacea for me - I have a 2002 4x4 that runs well (has only a rear LSD) and cost me a fraction of a newer unit - 140k on the clock, so relatively new...bits are a bit harder to find though.
Great video and comparison. once again Bianca's comments and humour about it all is brilliant 🤣😂
Heading down to Yeagerup in my 07 PJ this weekend, mate is coming in his 19 PX3. Might have to see how they compare.
Enjoying the content you both put out and looking forward to more in the future!
how'd yas go
Nice episode and something a bit different as not many have the luxury of comparing new and old vehicles. I am keen to head out and check Mundaring but worry on breaking on stock height suspension. Cheers and looking forward to many more episodes 🍻
Thanks Luke, appreciate that! The track is certainly a lot of fun and I'd definitely recommend giving it a go - you could even try it on stock suspension as there's easier tracks to get around the particularly gnarly parts of the track. 🙂
Before I start watching the clip. I think that the 14 year newer 4wd comes out heaps better you would say ( part 2 ) As I thought it would be. Great clip guys. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Jack! We found both vehicles to perform quite similarly in a lot of situations, and will complete most tracks, the Dmax will is just a bit more controlled thanks to the rear locker. 🙂
Well done team Exploranger and great job Bianca. Cheers
Good to see the old ranger again.
I did see wheel scrub on the dmax a few times looks like the tyres are to big with the front.
Yeah the fronts scrub a bit here and there unfortunately - good pickup. I was hesitant going the 33s for that exact reason but a lot of people run the exact same size without rub on the same rim offset so bit of a mystery what's going on there! Luckily it only touches on the plastic mud guards which can be removed, so might look at modifying those or lifting the front slightly.
I’m beginning to think many say they don’t get any rubbing. But actually do
I thought seeing this is Australia's most famous PJ Ranger that it would be sold by now. 😁 Good luck with the sale. 🍀
Thanks mate! It's been sold since this video was filmed 🙂
@@explorebound Congrats. 👍 Now you have more coin to keep modding the D-Max. 😁
I have a 2019 dmax and really only 4x4 along the flat beaches when away and use it to tow my van and it works perfect for me. Keep a check on front body mounts cracking as this could apparently cause inner guard cracks on the wings, I have less than 30,000k and mine need replacing and it as never been driven hard.
Yeah I've heard a bit about the cracking on that model and sorry to hear you've been affected - that must be a hastle on such a new car! I've got my fingers crossed that they sorted the issue for the MY21+ but time will tell I guess. 😬
@@explorebound Not that bad, just rubber body mounts cracked on mine easy fix to replace and being done under warranty. Check out lowrange nicks video very informative.
The scary thing is the older vehicles will do everything the newer vehicles will do in less comfort.
how is that scary? also they will do everything the newer vehicles do in less comfort but for far longer then the newer vehicles will do it
Mate love the video. What brand of canopy is that on the dmax. Looking at one for my 2020 ranger XLT
Thanks mate! The whole rear setup is from MRT - here's a video runthrough of it if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/eqddXbLFDnw/w-d-xo.html
Do you find the Ranger ride quality [comfort] suffers road or dirt with the upgraded torsion bars .??
The quality of early Ranger rear LSD was terrible . Most dont work after 100,000km .
Great video enjoyed the content you have done on the both 4x4’s. What brand are the seat covers in the dmax if you don’t mind me asking?
They are Supertrim seat covers - liking them so far and a nice factory look too 🙂
Crazy to learn that the ranger in Australia didn't have locking diff
It did
Loven the content mate just wondering what part of the powerlines that you went through like what road you entered in cheers mate
Thanks mate! We jumped onto the track from Cole Rd opposite the Puma station. 🙂
Cheers mate might head up this weekend
Good comparison. Dmax getting rock sliders?
Thanks mate! Yep they're definitely on the list for when the budget allows - was a bit worried about banging the sills on a few sections of the track. 😅
Still haven't made it to this track yet 😂 have you sold the Ranger yet mate?
I'd definitely recommend checking it out - it's a fun track! Yep since filming this one the Ranger has gone off to her new home, sad to see it go but it's going to be appreciated by it's new owner. 🙂
the dmax tray/canopy is getting a lot of chassis wobble/flex, looks more than normal, might want to keep an eye on that.
That likely the body/cab flexing around on the body mounts.
Is the new name “Explormax” ?
I've been playing around with a few new names to rebrand the channel, but not set on anything yet 🙂
@Greg Hill Nice one 👍😁
Maxplore
What recovery point's on the front of the Dmax
They came with the Off-road Animal bullbar 🙂
Classic powerlines ehh, good track
Your missus is awesome 👍
The ranger transfer hangs well below the chassis
Bellow
Unfamiliar with WA number plate standards, and just noticed the plate on the Ranger now. Is the plate legit? 'Coz if it is, wow! 9 letters! We're only allowed maximum of 6 characters in NSW.
Yeah 9 is the maximum allowed for custom plated over here in WA 🙂
@ Hammer Rocks. 9 characters. Wow, indeed. We're so limited in NSW.
Did Bianca find that noise in the dmax cab???
Sunnies in the overhead storage believe it or not 😂
@@explorebound thanks 😊
@@explorebound Maybe line it with felt or rubber. Bunnings sell felt or rubber sheets (or rolls) with self-adhesive back. Perfect for that application.
I can’t believe I emptied the entire glove box and centre console before finding the sunnies tapping away…
@@biancaspice6409 I actually found that segment funny. 😂 Purely because I can relate, and would have done the same thing you did. Rattles and/or squeaks in vehicles, annoy the heck out of me. They're my pet hate.
Any regrets with getting the Dmax? Do you wish you held out for the new Ranger?
None at all, the cheapest Ranger with the new 3L engine is $20k more than I paid for the Dmax and they don't come in manual which was a must for me. Aside from that, the main reason I went down the Dmax route for Isuzu's track record with long lasting engines - hoping this will be a very long-term vehicle for me. 🙂
@@explorebound you just can't beat Isuzu reliability!
At 5.45 you take a different line than the ranger.
Good spot! We actually reckon the Ranger would have gotten through if we’d tried it again on the same line as the D-Max! But didn’t wanna push her too hard 😊
Dmax Traction control? Far superior safety cab design, way better engine,
The traction control deactivates automatically when low range is selected in the Dmax thankfully 🙂
You are joking! The only fair comparison is one done between a 2022 D-Max vs a 2022 Ford Ranger. Your comparison evaluation is absolutely ridiculous.
Pretty clear what this video was about from the title and the thumbnail, the only thing ridiculous is you clicking and commenting really.
@@explorebound No mate..... Ridiculous is the word to describe your comparison test. No genuine 4x4 person would take this as being serious in any logical way. I can't stop laughing!!
Well mate, you’re the first of 19,000 people to not comprehend the point of the video, but happy to spell it out for you. This video is a basic comparison between an older 4wd ute and a newer model to assist people who might be contemplating an upgrade but wondering if there’s dramatic difference in off-road performance. Please remember the world doesn’t revolve around you, and just because you were after something else it doesn’t mean this doesn’t have value to others.
@@explorebound There are many reasons to upgrade from a 25 year old 4x4 to a 1 year old 4x4, but the only reason you have given is that the D-Max has a rear diff locker and the ranger doesn't, so that's certainly not a fair evaluation at all. I am not being funny or stupid in my reasoning here, I am simply saying that a 2022 D-Max vs a 2022 Ranger is a far more realistic comparison between the two Utes.
2 kids with mothers milk in their mouth being experts..........its more the driver than the vehicle that makes a 4wd more capable than the other
Yes and no, where the ranger got stuck, a mates mux was having some issues he got thru it but a bit faster, it had a bigger lift, tyres, coil rear so more flex but the traction control system let him down, so it wasnt going anywhere a bone stock triton (new driver aswell) did it easier as the traction control system worked better so he did it slower, you can be the best driver in the world, if the wheels dont have traction be it lack of grip or in the air, you cant fix that, hence why lockers or a good traction control system can help minimse 4wd and track damage
@avn that’s quite an ignorant comment. We’ve never claimed to be ‘experts’ nor did we say the car was the only factor affecting performance. The point of this video was just to show that the average person won’t experience a dramatic difference between the two in general off roading.
@Tom spot on 👍
Troll, go kiss ya dad on the lips.
Maybe if you’d actually watched the video, you would hear me say multiple times that I have no idea what I’m doing or anything about 4x4ing 😂