Main reason for that was cause Ford discontinued the 3.2 by the time the 2020 ute test came about. That said if you look at the BT50 of that year, that had the 3.2 and it came 3rd. So sad cause it clearly shows how much better the 3.2 is than the 2.0. I too am a massive 3.2 fan
You have to at least admire the effort from Ford to seriously improve this new Ranger. There are so many thoughtful inclusions and out of the box they look great.
I have my NG wildtrak V6 and she is a beauty and drives so smoothly and has plenty of get up and go. Its a truck not a Ferrari but has great tow for my two huge heavy horses. This truck is an absolute pleasure to drive and Im thrilled to bits!!!
A bloke at the bottom of my street has the new ranger. A walk past it every day with the dogs and it honestly looks mint compared to the older shape. I’d definitely look at one if I had that budget for a new vehicle.
I had a Tickford mod done on my 3.2 PX2 it gives 500 NM at the rear wheels tested on a dyna. The new ranger looks good but I am very Happy with my PX 2.
It's about time dual cabs had a decent motor in them. With the towing capacity and GCM's they have, they really need the extra tow capacity to be safe. I went with a BT-50 because it has the 3.2 without paying the extra for a Ranger. V6's always seem to make way more power vs the same capacity 4cyl's.
The ironman new Raid bar has kept the OEM areo sections and also added a few more wind deflectors to push air into the intercooler. So no worries in the cooling
I’ve finally got my V6 Ranger Sport. Loving it so far. I tow a 2.5T caravan & was waiting for a vehicle like this. Plenty of grunt & a disc brake rear end 👍👍
i've a fully kited and tuned PX3 XLT auto and have just come back from a 7000klm central tour with a hybrid van in two, running side by side a V6 XLT with accessories, ute full of gear in his but no bar or lift or canopy or winch etc and an identical can over the whole trip we were 1ltr/100 difference in average usage, will be really interesting to see what the new ones start using once all kitted out and lifted etc. I really like the look of the new ranger but his stock was $6500 more expensive than mine mostly kitted out, that's a fair way in fuel on todays prices
Hi James, was the V6 towing anything? Are you saying you used only 1L/100km more towing a hybrid van than the new V6 towing nothing or was the V6 also towing?
My son in-law just took delivery of his new V6 Ranger, and it's a bloody good car. Great to drive, very quiet and very good power. But looking at this video, it's an aftermarket companies dream, so much you can do with this car.
That sounds like about regular V6 pressures. Sure the 2.0 makes the same but V6 has 2 more cylinders and 1000 more CC's. When it comes to power and putting more in, size and cylinders are your best friends
@@paladain55 sadly NA is dying. But yeah you're right, look at the big American trucks. The big pushrod NA V8s outlive their diesel and forced induction counterparts by a lot. Even look at the 4.0 V6 Ranger and Hilux, both engines unkillable
@@vanderz1012 Total cost wise the Na motors are cheaper to own in the term. So to me turbo engines are overrated. I get that an ecoboost gets an extra 2 mpg. My 300k mile v8 4wd toyota sequoia still averages 17.5mpg on street tires so ill take that.
There's already plenty of reports of the 10 speed transmission failing in near new cars... So we didn't have to wait long for Ford to show us that "reliability" they're (not) known for 🤣
Honestly like the newer look of the ranger, the face lift alone looks awesome. If I did manage to get one I would definitely be investing in some under body protection as soon as I could because of all those low hanging parts. Other than that I reckon it will be a best of a rig
Nice to see them actually off road,every Ranger I’ve seen is either P plater spec lifted and huge tyres but never off the bitumen or it is turned into a family duel cab/mums mall crawler.
Great to watch. Ive got the 2013 3.2L ranger and the 2022 v6 3L ranger and it is a huge difference for me. Loving my ranger, same as the one in the vid but with 2 inch lift and 33s, looks awsome, feels amazing, great video to watch about my new 4x4
Thats what you would expect from the figures of that v6. I currently have a 3.2 and my brother the current model v6 amarok and that thing moves. I'm definitely in the market for the new v6 ranger, but i think I'll wait a year or two for the new model to prove itself in the field first (as well as give the aftermarket time to develop)
The new Ranger would be an awesome tourer, not great at hard off-roading. I reckon Ford knows the market pretty well and we will see a lot of new Rangers with all the gear but always immaculately clean and polished in the CBD!
Yeah, I live in Taiwan and own a PX3. While a lot of them are modified with bars and such, very few do anything hard and that seems to be the same in most countries based on watching TH-cam. Decent touring rigs, but people who want to do hard tracks choose a Toyota, Jeep, Suzuki or Nissan. That's fine. I like to do light offroad, but not hard tracks. My truck cost me too much to trash it.
The best thing about the new gen ranger is ford worked with ARB to design the car to run ARB products. Its designed to make installing ARB products really easy.
I would love to know how the V6 wildtrak compares to the V6 XLT or Sport in terms of road noise, since the WT is supposed to be the more "premium" model and wonder if they would've done more in terms of sound isolation. I will definitely be taking both models for a test drive once they are available at my local dealer.
Sold my next gen Everest within a week of getting it, so much tyre noise with factory tyres. I even swapped the wheels off my PX Ranger to try and it made no difference. I thought it would have been better than the previous model for road noise but I thought it was worse. I was so confident I bought it without a test drive - big mistake ... Not sure what Ford did, looks like they went very cheap on sound insulation!
that worry about the thermo fan.. dirt bikes have had thermo fans for a very long time. if they can make thermo fans dirt bike tough, I'm sure they will be fine in a dual cab ute.
Hi 4WD 24-7, I've just seen the CURRENT AFFAIR regarding the issues of the current FORD RANGER. Issues such as suddenly braking at 80 km/h, dash board screen showing nothing and poor customer service. In your future videos, COULD YOU PLEASE INCLUDE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE VEHICLE (any vehicles) and WHAT THE MANUFACTURERS DOING ABOUT IT (fixes). Your videos influences how our hardworking Australians buy their knew vehicles. You will provide GREAT SERVICE to our community by providing not just the POSITIVE and NEGATIVE reviews about the vehicle but also the actual issues with it. This way, the MANUFACTURERS can be put on notice, up their standards and giving the manufacturers the idea CUSTOMER SERVICE should be their number one priority. Now that's a concept, PASSIONATE ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
I've always believed everything a cURRENT aFFAIR has to say. Especially their factory accredited experience with vehicles. In fact, next week I'm taking my car to their place for a service. Hang on, there's another gullible bogan yelling for my attention right now, I'll have to finish this off later.
I don't mind the look/ power figures on the new rig but with a couple of placement issues ie. Alternator and dpf I think I'll stick with my px3 for now. She's done many awesome trips around Australia and hopefully plenty more to come!
I still wish they would make an extended cab version instead of a full 4 door so I can have a longer bed instead. Utility has gone out the door for those that need cargo space lately.
Going to be swapping out my V6 Amarok for one of the new Wildtraks or Raptors depending on budget at the time but im pleased as hell with the specs so far.
All these newer trucks are being built to make them more car like on the road which doesn't make them great off road right off the lot. But I'm sure the aftermarket loves that because they can sell more parts to make them capable offroaders
Aiming for better on road and towing performance for sure, makes for a brilliant tourer. But it’s hard to knock a factory diff lock, improved articulation, and active traction control on the front wheels even when the diff lock is activated. It doesn’t look like there is too much to complain about when you’d be adding better underbody protection and a snorkel as mods for any serious off road use. What’s to complain about with 50% increase in usable torque compared to the outgoing 3.2L ???
Interesting review especially the Dino tune numbers confirming the manufacturers figures I’m sure Toyota are scratching there heads to upgrade the Hi Lux but not making it too powerful otherwise no one will get the Prado, a problem Ford don’t have
My concern with this is bearing failure. Don't forget, this is the same basic engine (Lion V6) that has been fitted in JLR models since 2004 as a 2.7L, and 2009 as a 3.0L, and in 3.0L Land Rover applications in particular, was plagued by bearing failure often resulting in a snapped crankshafts - I don't think helped by Land Rover somehow managing to eke out around 221 kW from the engine, although most are in the 187 kW state of tune as in the new Ranger. Now, it's also known that Ford North America in preparation for use in the Ford F-150 made some wholesale changes to the internals of this engine which seems to have significantly improved reliability, but this is still a very short engine with very small main bearings, and cylinders 2 and 3, and 4 and 5, share main bearings. I just hope, on the customers behalf, that this is a development of the F-150 engine. It certainly appears to be having an external dipstick as opposed to Land Rover's useless electronic readout.
Well said. Ford did make some pretty significant changes in 2018. However, there have been several reports of the updated engine in the f150 failing due to main bearing wear. They are no longer snapping the crankshaft as it is now forged, but like you say, the engine is to short by design, the crankshaft does flex under load and the main bearings do appear to be wearing prematurely. Time will tell...... I hope im wrong and the issues ive heard about in the f150 are just one off.
Ford have said publicly that the internal design of this engine has not been changed for the ranger application. It is the same engine the Americans got in 2018 except for an updated turbo oil return and a few other small changes.
@@trickster8635 It's not unknown here in the UK in the Discovery 3 and Range Rover Sport, but I don't think it's helped by Land Rover's 15,000 miles (24,000 km) service intervals they have here. The 3.0 in the Discovery 4 is known for this failure. 2010-2012 seem also to have suffered from defective hardening!
Never have I ever questioned rear drum brakes, my Hilux is not light but still stops on a dime in a serious situation, towing might be a different story but with e braking I am still not concerned, drum brakes also don't make a mess of your rims, cleaning rims sucks lol
I agree. Never touched my Ranger’s rear drum brakes. Discs are prone to warping, rust crusting from the edges to the centre and dirt/stones grooving the metal.
I prefer the squared off looks of the new ranger, the previous version was looking like all the others, albeit the Triton. As far as all the electrical components in this new ute ( and others) I worry about longevity... Time will tell. But the manufacturers are pulling your leg when it comes to pricing, it's ridiculous how much utes are today.
I had a chance to drive a mate new V6 Ranger and I’ve got to say it drive really well, was very comfortable for a dual cab but definitely felt a bit sluggish under heavy acceleration. I don’t have a lot of experience in late model dual cabs. I definitely thought with those kw/torque numbers it would feel a lot faster than it did, I would imagine it would tow great though.
Depends what you compare it to. If you compare it to a little tubrocharged hatchback then it will feel a bit sluggish on initial acceleration, but compared to other dual cab utes this new ranger goes like hell. I would imagine the new raptor will be king of the hill for a long while when it comes to those idiots who test utes by drag racing them, at least until a serious EV contender comes along.
Haven’t driven the new V6 yet, but have spent a lot of time driving a 2L Bi Turbo with the 10 speed transmission. Unless you really plant it, the number of gears tends to make acceleration feel ‘slow’ with few spikes in revs compared to similar vehicles. The lack of drama doesn’t mean the speed doesn’t climb quickly though.
@@bloodypom You definitely have to be firmer on the throttle during take off to prevent it feeling lazy. The V6 loves being at speed and pulls like a freight train
I stepped out of a 2018 200 series vx into an XLT Next Gen and I can't fault it. Yes there are mod availability issues at the moment but that's changing as they come on line. In terms of towing? The 200 was always very solid but the new ranger does it with ease and doesn't seem like it tries as hard to do it. My opinion I suppose. The 200 had extensive mods and the new Ranger is on its way as it's only got What's available right now, but time will tell.... all the tech vs real world bush, wheel lifts and crossings? Let's see.. thanks for a great comparison video of a very capable and customisable vehicle and it's new model!
Love the look of the new ones. Got a very f150 look to the front end. With the winch, most people would have a winch compatible bull bar on and that'll likely have a bit more option or better position to mount the winch without compromising the air flow anyway.
The older ranger nose looks better imo, the new one is just like the Aston Martin style grills on the late model Falcons, just doesn't suit them (at least an ARB makes them look better).
We bought a ranger wildtrak and and are going to tow a 23 ft gooseneck horse float and two horses.Although we need a hitch and to make the suspension more stiff to tow the horse float
What you need to investigate is the problem with electric park brake servo's. My Next Gen Ranger (9000km) is parked up at a dealer waiting for replacement park brake servos. One of the factory servos leaked brake fluid which flooded the servo motors and controls. No external leak. All captured in component. Brake fluid is corrosive. The dealer banned the car from being driven until the new redesigned servo/calliper units are installed as it is a KILL YOU risk if the control electronics decide to apply that brake hard on while driving. It's the 3rd Next Gen Ranger this dealer has seen with this. Sounds like a major recall issue but Ford remaining deathly silent on this. Is that the stuff of a "listening company"??
I like the look of the new front. I dont like how high strung everything is. just sounds expensive. my last ranger was a 4 cyl 1996 that is still on the road doing work without any major repairs.
Looks nice, i love the rangers ive got a 2010 ford ranger tdci and i fell in love with it ,and her name is Lucy haha🤣 the only thing i would change is the drum brakes ,it don't like stopping just waiting for the prices to come down on the brake conversion kits .love the channel, steve from the uk 👌👍
we had in south africa a 3.2 wildtrack ranger with 2 chips. it had a boost chip for the turbo and a fuel chip and it made 180 kw to he wheel,that thing moved like nothing compared
My dad has the 3.0 diesel in the f150 in the USA. One thing we have learned here is that it’s needed to lock out 9th and 10th gear when towing aor people go through turbos and cac tubes because the seals fail from the heat. I wish we had the option of the 3.0 diesel in the ranger in the USA.
Any chance of doing a comparison video of the next gen ranger and a 300 series. Especially tow testing 3T load Be good to compare the two 6 cyl diesels
I trust more in the technical parts of a Hilux or D-Max if it really gets ugly in the long run. But no doubt, on the road the Ranger always is a bit better to drive. Nevertheless I'm probably one of the few who doesn't like the new rangers look of the front exterior so much. I think Triton/Mitsubishi looks still better as well as the D-Max. Thanks for this profound comparison-test! Excellent like always ☺️
Between inflation globally. Lack of competition for base materials. And all the new electronics and innovation for government environmental regulations, what do you expect. The vast majority of the cost is environmental regulations and inflation. " Man X years ago it used to be 30k.". Yeah your money is worth less and the government has increased regulations which increases costs all the way around. Think if DPF systems alone. The news keeps saying " these companies are making major year over year profits". The key is year over year... Yeah I'd expect they make a lot more profit compared to two years of lockdowns.. and the amount of inflation since then, they actually make less profit over all now even though prices are that much higher. The cost of shipping materials alone has tripped. Everyone wants to blame the corporations. When they should be blaming the cause which is the government. Especially in AUS the government there is. Out of control. If the manufacturer could lower the prices by tens of thousands and still make profit, they would. Because they would make far more on volume sales than by single high price sales. That's how Henry Ford took over.. cheaper vehicles, but he sold far more than the competition. So he made far more profit than the competition.. high costs for no reason are not the goal because they won't sell. Like now, they make considerably less sales of new vehicles than what they used to say ten-20,yrs ago when you could get an inexpensive base model truck for 20k or less.. It's good they make profit. That's how they innovate. If they can't innovate faster than government regulations then they go under. Also if the government didn't make it so expensive and difficult to make a new car company...there would be tons of competition and car prices would be far lower.. but there's a lot of government and central bank collusion with the biggest auto makers, keeping them alive while preventing new companies from starting In short. Blame the state not the bussines
@@ryanburge4162 once more new cars come on the market those used prices will drop.. you can already see it starting. I reckon wait 6 months and interest rates and inflation is going to wipe alot of people out.. I'm waiting for a relative bargain compared to today's prices
Be very careful how far you tune the 3.2 litre engine. A local Diesel specialist told me of a 3.2litre engine which was tuned so high by a person who tuned it that after 3,200k it put a leg out of bed.
I had to laugh at the comment " the Ford engineers would have thought about that" when referring to the very common splitting of the 3.2 intercooler top hose, they put a way under rated dual mass clutch in the PJ continued through PK and on that Ford refused to acknowledge was a big mistake, causing a large trade in aftermarket production single plate conversion kits to 'cure' what Ford themselves knew. The "bean counters override most necessary design fault changes so maybe wait a while before jumping to a purchase, warranty is and has been wriggled out of previously especially the well known clutch issue, ask many owners who found out the hard way.
The new ranger diff is smaller and the tail shaft at the end is like 40mills round that will be a weak point. And how I know this is we had one come in the work shop for a tray
Cannot believe they made no comment of that. Saw one without a tray at an ARB dealer and everyone was looking at it with raised eyebrows. Time will tell.
G'day Shauno how could you get air in and around the radiator once you put a bar and a winch on it !! And would it be as heavy on juice as a 200 once you tweek it on the dyno !!
Same here. I badly want one of these v6 rangers, but I'll be patient for a year or two to see how they perform on the longer term. In the meantime I'll be saving up for all the overlanding gear I would want to load it up with once I have one.
Good review but the thing I’d really like to hear an expert’s opinion of, is the rear tail shaft design. Firstly the traditional “large pipe to universal joint” design has been abandoned for a “pipe to shaft” design with no uni joint. It looks flimsy, prone to flexing and vulnerable to failures. Could you maybe get Fords explanation of why they chose such a design, to put potential buyer concerns to rest.
So the reason why a pipe is generally used is because its lighter. Most torsion is applied on the outer radius of a shaft. Therefore a hollow shaft, while larger, actually has less weight while being just as strong since the larger radius means the structure is stronger at resisting the torque. The reason they went to a, presumably, solid shaft with a smart radius is because the joint at the diff is too small for the “pipe”. To;dr the pipe bit has greater strength to weight ratio and the joint is small at the rear diff so they juggled it to reduce weight
@@markcottierkw950 It is precisely 100Nm less than the V6 but the 2.0 still has more power and torque than the old 3.2 five cylinder. How much is ‘enough’?
I have a 3.2 litre px3 ranger the fuel economy is pretty good on highway trips but with fuel going up so high today is it worth buying a v6 ranger when diesel is $2.30 litre and climbing. the new ranger does looks great I am curious on what would it be like in a year on the roads will there be any issues.
The 2.0 L is 'highly strung', I think highly strung means the 2.0 L is blowing its gut out and regardless how much you tune it you won't get any improvement. When compared to the boost pressure on the old 3.2 L developing 315.4 Nm, the new 3.0 L with relatively high boost pressure is also blowing its guts out to achieve the 467.1 Nm. The more fuel you put through these little motors and the high boost pressures required to burn this extra fuel does nothing for the life expectancies of these New Fords. I'll take the 4.5 L Toyota V8 developing the effortless 430 Nm for 'easy' towing every time.
Lots of people I’ve spoken to love the look of the new one, I prefer the old. Saw a new Raptor the other day, it sounded worse than a V6 VT Commodore to be honest. 👍🏻
NB that "dyno power" output was allegedly wheel power (140kW vs 184kW at the Flywheel - that makes sense with drivetrain power loss), but what happened to the Torque value - it was most likely corrected back to estimated Flywheel torque (though that is sadly (lower) different to the published data at 600Nm -flywheel Ts). IF EVs are allowed to brag about wheel torque, lets up the flywheel torque values by the gear ratio in first and the diff ratio (that comes to a multiple of torque by around 3.73 at the diff and ?/say x2 at first gear and x3-4 with torque converter wound up fully.... that 600 flywheel "Torques" should really end up scarily high after the very modern (is that a thing?? - ??) transmission system.
Thinking exactly the same thing with the annual 4WD comparison a few weeks back, rather than using the hero model with the Peugeot/Ford V6 they should have used the comparitive 4 cylinder 2.0 turbo diesel. Equally the concept of just "more power" is better with every update/generation is ultimately pointless as how much power and torque do you really need? Then the question of price, $70k for a ute is getting ridiculous as most owners would hardly ever use 4WD in their mall trawler.
@@byronfanning2678 lol that's just my opinion tbh. I didn't like the 2.0 when it came out cause my thoughts were "that much power running through a tiny motor like that???"
Ford Ranger and Amarok a paired now. How does the Amarok stack up against the Ranger. Price is the issue for me. Picking up on some comments in your previous comparison. Adding Bull bar under body protection suspension kit. 1. Warranty 2. Taking the car back to ford each time for recalibration. I am sure for all that money, a sweet.3.2l Ranger could be built
Remember that this “new” V6 is the basically a 3.0 litre version the SZ/SZ2 Ford Territory lion 2.7 diesel V6. These motors are great till about 125,000 them they need big $$$$ on the fuel and intake system.
Love how Shauno says he's always been a fan of the 3.2L platform but every time they've done a ute comparison it's been the bloody 2L BiTurbo
Main reason for that was cause Ford discontinued the 3.2 by the time the 2020 ute test came about. That said if you look at the BT50 of that year, that had the 3.2 and it came 3rd. So sad cause it clearly shows how much better the 3.2 is than the 2.0. I too am a massive 3.2 fan
Finally someone did this. Can't believe car expert didnt cover this. Well done blokes. 👏
You have to at least admire the effort from Ford to seriously improve this new Ranger. There are so many thoughtful inclusions and out of the box they look great.
I have my NG wildtrak V6 and she is a beauty and drives so smoothly and has plenty of get up and go. Its a truck not a Ferrari but has great tow for my two huge heavy horses. This truck is an absolute pleasure to drive and Im thrilled to bits!!!
A bloke at the bottom of my street has the new ranger. A walk past it every day with the dogs and it honestly looks mint compared to the older shape. I’d definitely look at one if I had that budget for a new vehicle.
I had a Tickford mod done on my 3.2 PX2 it gives 500 NM at the rear wheels tested on a dyna. The new ranger looks good but I am very Happy with my PX 2.
It's about time dual cabs had a decent motor in them. With the towing capacity and GCM's they have, they really need the extra tow capacity to be safe.
I went with a BT-50 because it has the 3.2 without paying the extra for a Ranger.
V6's always seem to make way more power vs the same capacity 4cyl's.
The ironman new Raid bar has kept the OEM areo sections and also added a few more wind deflectors to push air into the intercooler. So no worries in the cooling
negative compared to ARBs cooling in their bar
I’ve finally got my V6 Ranger Sport. Loving it so far. I tow a 2.5T caravan & was waiting for a vehicle like this. Plenty of grunt & a disc brake rear end 👍👍
A review on the new Raptor would be highly appreciated by all thanks Shaun.
i've a fully kited and tuned PX3 XLT auto and have just come back from a 7000klm central tour with a hybrid van in two, running side by side a V6 XLT with accessories, ute full of gear in his but no bar or lift or canopy or winch etc and an identical can over the whole trip we were 1ltr/100 difference in average usage, will be really interesting to see what the new ones start using once all kitted out and lifted etc. I really like the look of the new ranger but his stock was $6500 more expensive than mine mostly kitted out, that's a fair way in fuel on todays prices
Hi James, was the V6 towing anything? Are you saying you used only 1L/100km more towing a hybrid van than the new V6 towing nothing or was the V6 also towing?
@@osmiumgus8025 The v6 was towing an identical hybrid van
@@jamesbarnard1153 how did the V6 tow compared to your tuned 3.2?
My son in-law just took delivery of his new V6 Ranger, and it's a bloody good car. Great to drive, very quiet and very good power. But looking at this video, it's an aftermarket companies dream, so much you can do with this car.
Will be interesting to see long term how the drastic increase in engine pressure will effect the over all reliability
That sounds like about regular V6 pressures. Sure the 2.0 makes the same but V6 has 2 more cylinders and 1000 more CC's. When it comes to power and putting more in, size and cylinders are your best friends
have we ever seen an instance of a turbo gasoline engine lasting longer than its na counter part?
@@paladain55 sadly NA is dying. But yeah you're right, look at the big American trucks. The big pushrod NA V8s outlive their diesel and forced induction counterparts by a lot. Even look at the 4.0 V6 Ranger and Hilux, both engines unkillable
@@vanderz1012 Total cost wise the Na motors are cheaper to own in the term. So to me turbo engines are overrated. I get that an ecoboost gets an extra 2 mpg. My 300k mile v8 4wd toyota sequoia still averages 17.5mpg on street tires so ill take that.
It’ll be interesting to see the effect long term use has on the endless electrics and the reliability of that engine
Engine has been in use in Land Rovers since the late 2000s ( approx). Probably one of the few reliable things in a Land Rover
The Power Stroke has been around for near 20 years in the States. It's reliably AF
@@jamezxh as long as it's not a 6.0 unless you drop tons of money in them to bullet proof em lol
@@swampypolitics9574 These "Power strokes" are entirely different though.
There's already plenty of reports of the 10 speed transmission failing in near new cars... So we didn't have to wait long for Ford to show us that "reliability" they're (not) known for 🤣
Honestly like the newer look of the ranger, the face lift alone looks awesome. If I did manage to get one I would definitely be investing in some under body protection as soon as I could because of all those low hanging parts. Other than that I reckon it will be a best of a rig
Nice to see them actually off road,every Ranger I’ve seen is either P plater spec lifted and huge tyres but never off the bitumen or it is turned into a family duel cab/mums mall crawler.
Great to watch. Ive got the 2013 3.2L ranger and the 2022 v6 3L ranger and it is a huge difference for me. Loving my ranger, same as the one in the vid but with 2 inch lift and 33s, looks awsome, feels amazing, great video to watch about my new 4x4
I had the 3.2 and my V6 kills it with towing. love it.
Thats what you would expect from the figures of that v6. I currently have a 3.2 and my brother the current model v6 amarok and that thing moves. I'm definitely in the market for the new v6 ranger, but i think I'll wait a year or two for the new model to prove itself in the field first (as well as give the aftermarket time to develop)
The new Ranger would be an awesome tourer, not great at hard off-roading. I reckon Ford knows the market pretty well and we will see a lot of new Rangers with all the gear but always immaculately clean and polished in the CBD!
Yeah, I live in Taiwan and own a PX3. While a lot of them are modified with bars and such, very few do anything hard and that seems to be the same in most countries based on watching TH-cam. Decent touring rigs, but people who want to do hard tracks choose a Toyota, Jeep, Suzuki or Nissan. That's fine. I like to do light offroad, but not hard tracks. My truck cost me too much to trash it.
The best thing about the new gen ranger is ford worked with ARB to design the car to run ARB products. Its designed to make installing ARB products really easy.
Great review. Glad you mentioned the road noise inside the Cab. Took one out for a test drive and it was very noticeable. Power was excellent though
I would love to know how the V6 wildtrak compares to the V6 XLT or Sport in terms of road noise, since the WT is supposed to be the more "premium" model and wonder if they would've done more in terms of sound isolation. I will definitely be taking both models for a test drive once they are available at my local dealer.
Sold my next gen Everest within a week of getting it, so much tyre noise with factory tyres. I even swapped the wheels off my PX Ranger to try and it made no difference. I thought it would have been better than the previous model for road noise but I thought it was worse. I was so confident I bought it without a test drive - big mistake ... Not sure what Ford did, looks like they went very cheap on sound insulation!
that worry about the thermo fan.. dirt bikes have had thermo fans for a very long time. if they can make thermo fans dirt bike tough, I'm sure they will be fine in a dual cab ute.
Hi 4WD 24-7, I've just seen the CURRENT AFFAIR regarding the issues of the current FORD RANGER. Issues such as suddenly braking at 80 km/h, dash board screen showing nothing and poor customer service. In your future videos, COULD YOU PLEASE INCLUDE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE VEHICLE (any vehicles) and WHAT THE MANUFACTURERS DOING ABOUT IT (fixes). Your videos influences how our hardworking Australians buy their knew vehicles. You will provide GREAT SERVICE to our community by providing not just the POSITIVE and NEGATIVE reviews about the vehicle but also the actual issues with it. This way, the MANUFACTURERS can be put on notice, up their standards and giving the manufacturers the idea CUSTOMER SERVICE should be their number one priority. Now that's a concept, PASSIONATE ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
Spoken like a true officer of an opposition co.
I've always believed everything a cURRENT aFFAIR has to say. Especially their factory accredited experience with vehicles. In fact, next week I'm taking my car to their place for a service. Hang on, there's another gullible bogan yelling for my attention right now, I'll have to finish this off later.
I don't mind the look/ power figures on the new rig but with a couple of placement issues ie. Alternator and dpf I think I'll stick with my px3 for now. She's done many awesome trips around Australia and hopefully plenty more to come!
anyone saying the px3 is better is unable to look past the fact that this new ute is about 50x better then the previous generation in every aspect.
@@NathsHim agreed, like chalk and cheese. Can't wait for mine to arrive!
Personally I think the the px3 looks better and I have a next gen on order
@@NathsHim he didn't say it's better, he stated he has reliability concerns with DPF and alternator placement and will stick with his old version.
Love the new ranger. Thanks for the video!!!
with regards to the front intercooler, bull bar manufacturers should start creating designs that ram air to the intercoolers
I still wish they would make an extended cab version instead of a full 4 door so I can have a longer bed instead. Utility has gone out the door for those that need cargo space lately.
Ranger for life😊😊
Going to be swapping out my V6 Amarok for one of the new Wildtraks or Raptors depending on budget at the time but im pleased as hell with the specs so far.
I’m looking forward to seeing the new Amarok and a comparison between the two. Looks pretty sweet.
All these newer trucks are being built to make them more car like on the road which doesn't make them great off road right off the lot. But I'm sure the aftermarket loves that because they can sell more parts to make them capable offroaders
Aiming for better on road and towing performance for sure, makes for a brilliant tourer. But it’s hard to knock a factory diff lock, improved articulation, and active traction control on the front wheels even when the diff lock is activated. It doesn’t look like there is too much to complain about when you’d be adding better underbody protection and a snorkel as mods for any serious off road use. What’s to complain about with 50% increase in usable torque compared to the outgoing 3.2L ???
Interesting review especially the Dino tune numbers confirming the manufacturers figures
I’m sure Toyota are scratching there heads to upgrade the Hi Lux but not making it too powerful otherwise no one will get the Prado, a problem Ford don’t have
My concern with this is bearing failure. Don't forget, this is the same basic engine (Lion V6) that has been fitted in JLR models since 2004 as a 2.7L, and 2009 as a 3.0L, and in 3.0L Land Rover applications in particular, was plagued by bearing failure often resulting in a snapped crankshafts - I don't think helped by Land Rover somehow managing to eke out around 221 kW from the engine, although most are in the 187 kW state of tune as in the new Ranger.
Now, it's also known that Ford North America in preparation for use in the Ford F-150 made some wholesale changes to the internals of this engine which seems to have significantly improved reliability, but this is still a very short engine with very small main bearings, and cylinders 2 and 3, and 4 and 5, share main bearings. I just hope, on the customers behalf, that this is a development of the F-150 engine. It certainly appears to be having an external dipstick as opposed to Land Rover's useless electronic readout.
Millions of 2.7 litre Territorys running around - no failures.
Well said. Ford did make some pretty significant changes in 2018. However, there have been several reports of the updated engine in the f150 failing due to main bearing wear. They are no longer snapping the crankshaft as it is now forged, but like you say, the engine is to short by design, the crankshaft does flex under load and the main bearings do appear to be wearing prematurely. Time will tell...... I hope im wrong and the issues ive heard about in the f150 are just one off.
Ford have said publicly that the internal design of this engine has not been changed for the ranger application. It is the same engine the Americans got in 2018 except for an updated turbo oil return and a few other small changes.
@@trickster8635 It's not unknown here in the UK in the Discovery 3 and Range Rover Sport, but I don't think it's helped by Land Rover's 15,000 miles (24,000 km) service intervals they have here. The 3.0 in the Discovery 4 is known for this failure. 2010-2012 seem also to have suffered from defective hardening!
@@trickster8635 Ford only sold 178,000 Territories, large number being the 4.0.
Never have I ever questioned rear drum brakes, my Hilux is not light but still stops on a dime in a serious situation, towing might be a different story but with e braking I am still not concerned, drum brakes also don't make a mess of your rims, cleaning rims sucks lol
I agree. Never touched my Ranger’s rear drum brakes. Discs are prone to warping, rust crusting from the edges to the centre and dirt/stones grooving the metal.
I prefer the squared off looks of the new ranger, the previous version was looking like all the others, albeit the Triton. As far as all the electrical components in this new ute ( and others) I worry about longevity... Time will tell. But the manufacturers are pulling your leg when it comes to pricing, it's ridiculous how much utes are today.
i have a next gen ranger and i absolutely love it. Have had many Fords and i do agree the models are expensive but worth it.
I had a chance to drive a mate new V6 Ranger and I’ve got to say it drive really well, was very comfortable for a dual cab but definitely felt a bit sluggish under heavy acceleration. I don’t have a lot of experience in late model dual cabs. I definitely thought with those kw/torque numbers it would feel a lot faster than it did, I would imagine it would tow great though.
Prob still needs the idrive like most dual cabs to get power down
can tell you no other dual cabs bar the amarok come close for acceleration
Depends what you compare it to. If you compare it to a little tubrocharged hatchback then it will feel a bit sluggish on initial acceleration, but compared to other dual cab utes this new ranger goes like hell. I would imagine the new raptor will be king of the hill for a long while when it comes to those idiots who test utes by drag racing them, at least until a serious EV contender comes along.
Haven’t driven the new V6 yet, but have spent a lot of time driving a 2L Bi Turbo with the 10 speed transmission. Unless you really plant it, the number of gears tends to make acceleration feel ‘slow’ with few spikes in revs compared to similar vehicles. The lack of drama doesn’t mean the speed doesn’t climb quickly though.
@@bloodypom You definitely have to be firmer on the throttle during take off to prevent it feeling lazy. The V6 loves being at speed and pulls like a freight train
I stepped out of a 2018 200 series vx into an XLT Next Gen and I can't fault it. Yes there are mod availability issues at the moment but that's changing as they come on line. In terms of towing? The 200 was always very solid but the new ranger does it with ease and doesn't seem like it tries as hard to do it. My opinion I suppose. The 200 had extensive mods and the new Ranger is on its way as it's only got What's available right now, but time will tell.... all the tech vs real world bush, wheel lifts and crossings? Let's see.. thanks for a great comparison video of a very capable and customisable vehicle and it's new model!
Love the look of the new ones. Got a very f150 look to the front end.
With the winch, most people would have a winch compatible bull bar on and that'll likely have a bit more option or better position to mount the winch without compromising the air flow anyway.
Shame there wasn't more of a side by side comparison. Good showing the underside of the new Ranger, but no comparison with the old underside :(
What is really disappointing with this new V6 ranger is the lack of a manual option. For that reason alone I'll be staying with my tuned 3.2.
So many close ratio gears behind a diesel is so good though. Less fun but they do so well.
@@ryanmartinage Some people still just want to drive not just steer 🤣🤣🤣
@@Sh1tstir I agree. I love manuals also. It'll perform great with the ten speed though.
Hello gents, any chance of an update on the long term review of the new Ranger ? I am thinking about buying one. Not sure about the reliability
3.2 manual is the best... coz thats mine.
If i buy the v6, then that one will be the best.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😆😆That's the most honest reply I've ever came across 🤣🤣
The older ranger nose looks better imo, the new one is just like the Aston Martin style grills on the late model Falcons, just doesn't suit them (at least an ARB makes them look better).
We bought a ranger wildtrak and and are going to tow a 23 ft gooseneck horse float and two horses.Although we need a hitch and to make the suspension more stiff to tow the horse float
Great comparison lads! I’m loving my new V6 WT 👍 effortless, smooth and quiet
What you need to investigate is the problem with electric park brake servo's. My Next Gen Ranger (9000km) is parked up at a dealer waiting for replacement park brake servos. One of the factory servos leaked brake fluid which flooded the servo motors and controls. No external leak. All captured in component. Brake fluid is corrosive. The dealer banned the car from being driven until the new redesigned servo/calliper units are installed as it is a KILL YOU risk if the control electronics decide to apply that brake hard on while driving. It's the 3rd Next Gen Ranger this dealer has seen with this. Sounds like a major recall issue but Ford remaining deathly silent on this. Is that the stuff of a "listening company"??
Last ford v6. Was great when runnin. Thanx
I like the look of the new front. I dont like how high strung everything is. just sounds expensive. my last ranger was a 4 cyl 1996 that is still on the road doing work without any major repairs.
Looks nice, i love the rangers ive got a 2010 ford ranger tdci and i fell in love with it ,and her name is Lucy haha🤣 the only thing i would change is the drum brakes ,it don't like stopping just waiting for the prices to come down on the brake conversion kits .love the channel, steve from the uk 👌👍
Would love to see you guys test out the raptor version
we had in south africa a 3.2 wildtrack ranger with 2 chips. it had a boost chip for the turbo and a fuel chip and it made 180 kw to he wheel,that thing moved like nothing compared
Looking for a new ute in Thailand. Hilux GR Sport or next gen Wildtrak 2.0 bi-turbo.
Which one would be your choice and why?
My dad has the 3.0 diesel in the f150 in the USA. One thing we have learned here is that it’s needed to lock out 9th and 10th gear when towing aor people go through turbos and cac tubes because the seals fail from the heat. I wish we had the option of the 3.0 diesel in the ranger in the USA.
Do the same test against the 2L biturbo - as that's the better match to the older 3.2L
Any chance of doing a comparison video of the next gen ranger and a 300 series. Especially tow testing 3T load
Be good to compare the two 6 cyl diesels
so how easy is it to get a retune of the 3.2 litre to match the V6's power and torque? How much would that cost?
Very good analysis!
The space under the wiper res is for a 2nd battery.
Great in-depth analysis. Time will tell..
I trust more in the technical parts of a Hilux or D-Max if it really gets ugly in the long run. But no doubt, on the road the Ranger always is a bit better to drive. Nevertheless I'm probably one of the few who doesn't like the new rangers look of the front exterior so much. I think Triton/Mitsubishi looks still better as well as the D-Max.
Thanks for this profound comparison-test! Excellent like always ☺️
trust the mechanics who non stop work on them cause they have too many faults to count 🤣
Ordered myself a new Wildtrak and Everest Sport for the Mrs.
Time to trade in the 3.2 which has a noisy engine.
Would love to see the same test between d max and hilux
Not going to lie I want one, but new ute prices are getting out of control, manufacturers are taking the piss.
Expensive is the new normal.
Consumers are deadshits **
Still worth it seeing second hand prices
Between inflation globally. Lack of competition for base materials. And all the new electronics and innovation for government environmental regulations, what do you expect.
The vast majority of the cost is environmental regulations and inflation.
" Man X years ago it used to be 30k.". Yeah your money is worth less and the government has increased regulations which increases costs all the way around. Think if DPF systems alone.
The news keeps saying " these companies are making major year over year profits". The key is year over year... Yeah I'd expect they make a lot more profit compared to two years of lockdowns.. and the amount of inflation since then, they actually make less profit over all now even though prices are that much higher.
The cost of shipping materials alone has tripped. Everyone wants to blame the corporations. When they should be blaming the cause which is the government. Especially in AUS the government there is. Out of control.
If the manufacturer could lower the prices by tens of thousands and still make profit, they would. Because they would make far more on volume sales than by single high price sales. That's how Henry Ford took over.. cheaper vehicles, but he sold far more than the competition. So he made far more profit than the competition.. high costs for no reason are not the goal because they won't sell. Like now, they make considerably less sales of new vehicles than what they used to say ten-20,yrs ago when you could get an inexpensive base model truck for 20k or less..
It's good they make profit. That's how they innovate. If they can't innovate faster than government regulations then they go under.
Also if the government didn't make it so expensive and difficult to make a new car company...there would be tons of competition and car prices would be far lower.. but there's a lot of government and central bank collusion with the biggest auto makers, keeping them alive while preventing new companies from starting
In short. Blame the state not the bussines
@@ryanburge4162 once more new cars come on the market those used prices will drop.. you can already see it starting. I reckon wait 6 months and interest rates and inflation is going to wipe alot of people out.. I'm waiting for a relative bargain compared to today's prices
Be very careful how far you tune the 3.2 litre engine. A local Diesel specialist told me of a 3.2litre engine which was tuned so high by a person who tuned it that after 3,200k it put a leg out of bed.
I can’t wait to see a tuned out DPF with a good exhaust and intercooler.
Me in my discovery 3 and 4 having this new ranger motor already
i cant wait to see Rob get the next Gen on the dyno and tune it up
Looking at the dyno graph it looks like the new ranger V6 makes around the same power as a tuned 3.2L 5 cyl.
I had to laugh at the comment " the Ford engineers would have thought about that" when referring to the very common splitting of the 3.2 intercooler top hose, they put a way under rated dual mass clutch in the PJ continued through PK and on that Ford refused to acknowledge was a big mistake, causing a large trade in aftermarket production single plate conversion kits to 'cure' what Ford themselves knew.
The "bean counters override most necessary design fault changes so maybe wait a while before jumping to a purchase, warranty is and has been wriggled out of previously especially the well known clutch issue, ask many owners who found out the hard way.
Can you tell me how the alternator is going to go with water going through it.🙈😃👍
The new ranger diff is smaller and the tail shaft at the end is like 40mills round that will be a weak point. And how I know this is we had one come in the work shop for a tray
Cannot believe they made no comment of that. Saw one without a tray at an ARB dealer and everyone was looking at it with raised eyebrows. Time will tell.
G'day Shauno how could you get air in and around the radiator once you put a bar and a winch on it !! And would it be as heavy on juice as a 200 once you tweek it on the dyno !!
Curious to see how reliable these will be long term. Especially for people wanting to do over landing.
Same here. I badly want one of these v6 rangers, but I'll be patient for a year or two to see how they perform on the longer term. In the meantime I'll be saving up for all the overlanding gear I would want to load it up with once I have one.
Have had more problems with my new one, but take a while to get them solid i guess as my old one was like 100% bulletproof. :))
cant wait to see when these things have 150k on them good luck
Good review but the thing I’d really like to hear an expert’s opinion of, is the rear tail shaft design. Firstly the traditional “large pipe to universal joint” design has been abandoned for a “pipe to shaft” design with no uni joint. It looks flimsy, prone to flexing and vulnerable to failures.
Could you maybe get Fords explanation of why they chose such a design, to put potential buyer concerns to rest.
So the reason why a pipe is generally used is because its lighter. Most torsion is applied on the outer radius of a shaft. Therefore a hollow shaft, while larger, actually has less weight while being just as strong since the larger radius means the structure is stronger at resisting the torque.
The reason they went to a, presumably, solid shaft with a smart radius is because the joint at the diff is too small for the “pipe”.
To;dr the pipe bit has greater strength to weight ratio and the joint is small at the rear diff so they juggled it to reduce weight
Many rangers, particularly lifted ones, suffer driveline vibration problems. I wonder if this is an attempt to minimise that problem.
This seems like an odd comparison. It would be better to test the new Ranger against the outgoing Ranger with the 2.0lt 4cyl with the 10 speed auto.
No way. The 2ltr doesn't even come close to the V6
@@markcottierkw950
It is precisely 100Nm less than the V6 but the 2.0 still has more power and torque than the old 3.2 five cylinder. How much is ‘enough’?
Wish ford could also release the V6 variant in the philippines
I have a 3.2 litre px3 ranger the fuel economy is pretty good on highway trips but with fuel going up so high today is it worth buying a v6 ranger when diesel is $2.30 litre and climbing. the new ranger does looks great I am curious on what would it be like in a year on the roads will there be any issues.
I really prefer new look (owner of 2019 3.2 A6).
How is the underneath of it? Are new chassis rust proof?
Do a real load test
Load out to the Max and a bit more then drive it in city traffic like a trade would
The 2.0 L is 'highly strung', I think highly strung means the 2.0 L is blowing its gut out and regardless how much you tune it you won't get any improvement. When compared to the boost pressure on the old 3.2 L developing 315.4 Nm, the new 3.0 L with relatively high boost pressure is also blowing its guts out to achieve the 467.1 Nm. The more fuel you put through these little motors and the high boost pressures required to burn this extra fuel does nothing for the life expectancies of these New Fords. I'll take the 4.5 L Toyota V8 developing the effortless 430 Nm for 'easy' towing every time.
110kw in a V8 certainly isn’t blowing it’s guts out I guess, just gutless lmao
Lots of people I’ve spoken to love the look of the new one, I prefer the old. Saw a new Raptor the other day, it sounded worse than a V6 VT Commodore to be honest. 👍🏻
I agree, had one roar past me and it sounded worse than the V6 ecotec P platers rip around in.
I guess in a way they are the new commodore/falcons. Every bastards got one these days
imagine buying a ford ranger for the way it sounds..
I wouldn't buy one for the way it sounds, but I would certainly avoid one for the way it sounds.
Nah Mr Wich.. Your sarcasm was wasted on Pienky😎😂😂😂
I think the new one is cool I would drive them both but the new one gets my vote bring it on
Can you have a tug of war test between the two trucks ??? Ultimate test 😃
I cant wait for this to show up in the US! current one is the segment tow king.
That's been discontinued sadly. USA will probably get the 2.7 same as the Bronco
@@vanderz1012 what's been discontinued?
@@duramaxadventures5832 V6 diesel in the US
@@vanderz1012 ahh, ya we aren't getting that. The twin turbo V6 from raptor we will most likely
NB that "dyno power" output was allegedly wheel power (140kW vs 184kW at the Flywheel - that makes sense with drivetrain power loss), but what happened to the Torque value - it was most likely corrected back to estimated Flywheel torque (though that is sadly (lower) different to the published data at 600Nm -flywheel Ts).
IF EVs are allowed to brag about wheel torque, lets up the flywheel torque values by the gear ratio in first and the diff ratio (that comes to a multiple of torque by around 3.73 at the diff and ?/say x2 at first gear and x3-4 with torque converter wound up fully.... that 600 flywheel "Torques" should really end up scarily high after the very modern (is that a thing?? - ??) transmission system.
Bloody great vid but why didn’t they compare it to the 10 speed bi turbo ranger? Wouldn’t that have been a better comparison?
Thinking exactly the same thing with the annual 4WD comparison a few weeks back, rather than using the hero model with the Peugeot/Ford V6 they should have used the comparitive 4 cylinder 2.0 turbo diesel.
Equally the concept of just "more power" is better with every update/generation is ultimately pointless as how much power and torque do you really need?
Then the question of price, $70k for a ute is getting ridiculous as most owners would hardly ever use 4WD in their mall trawler.
Cause the 2.0 sucks 🤣 the 3.2 is the real MVP Ranger engine 🤣
@@vanderz1012 yea fair enough, my neighbour has the 2L and he loves it, runs a Jim’s mowing and tows everyone and doesn’t have any issues.
@@sisupower970 spot on mate couldn’t of agreed more
@@byronfanning2678 lol that's just my opinion tbh. I didn't like the 2.0 when it came out cause my thoughts were "that much power running through a tiny motor like that???"
Can you have a review of the ranger 2023 xl 4x4 version? I think it's good for a project UTE.
Very informative, thank you.
I’ve seen the new Ranger and it looks good I want one but can’t afford one yet I’m poor.
Great vid, thanks, yeh not convinced, last test I saw the 2022 d'max and bt50 still look good...🤔
Will these have the snappy crankshafts that plaques Jaguar/Land Rover products with this engine?
I would always have that doubt, considering the number of times they claimed to have sorted it but never did in the Land Rovers.
Ford Ranger and Amarok a paired now. How does the Amarok stack up against the Ranger. Price is the issue for me. Picking up on some comments in your previous comparison. Adding Bull bar under body protection suspension kit. 1. Warranty 2. Taking the car back to ford each time for recalibration. I am sure for all that money, a sweet.3.2l Ranger could be built
Hi Shaun, when are you guys going to review the raptor? It almost seems like it is being avoided ???
Reckon any of them will still be driven in another 30 years tho ?
Of course it is
That motor makes some impressive numbers, as impressive as the 10 year old Amarok V6, lol.
Amarok is a soft city truck.
and piss poor compared to the 20yo Ford Courier
Remember that this “new” V6 is the basically a 3.0 litre version the SZ/SZ2 Ford Territory lion 2.7 diesel V6. These motors are great till about 125,000 them they need big $$$$ on the fuel and intake system.
And the same 3.0L also that is is in the discovery 3/4 which has a habit of snapping crankshafts.
EGTs new vs old??
In the states we do a lot of mud bogging and electric fans are the Preferred Choice cuz we can cycle them on and off
Doesn't get much more American than that!