Why Ram Trucks Aren't Selling
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- Today I talk about how Ram is selling fewer trucks and why!
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. At a dealership I saw a 35 thousand truck with a sale sticker on it said 65 thousand. Ha.Ha.Ha = that's y they not selling.
It also has to do with not being able to get what you want due to parts shortage
I mean nobody wants an unreliable v6 truck for the price of a new corvette.
Ben, what's your take on this Ford for under 45k since Ram has discontinued the single cab short bed for 2023.
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There is a large percentage of owners that replace their vehicles after 4 years or less. I believe alot of these buyers are thinking about keeping their vehicles longer due to the insane prices.
Bingo. I have a 2018 F150 and I am in no position to buy a new one. It just doesn't make any sense.
@@Sorensenator86 I’m the same, I have a 2019 F150. I’d like to get a newer model (mostly for the wireless instead of wired Apple car play), but I can’t justify it given the prices, plugging my phone in occasionally is a first world issue.
Yep. I’m keeping my 2017 Ram 1500, which drives like brand new.
Agree.... I am one of them! Want a F250 Power stroke but I'm keeping my 2019 tundra with 63K. It will last for 20 more years! I paid 48K for my limited in November of 2018.
I’m 27 have had 27 vehicles 6 brand new 2500 diesels/ show trucks. I worked in the oil field now in vehicles sales management. But currently own an early 2022 2500 Big Horn Cummins who is heavily considering keeping my truck to just see what I can get out of it with its CNA UNLIMITED TIME AND MILEAGE LIMITED BUMBER TO BUMBER WARRANTY. Should I? Or should I jump on the Ram REV I’m a confused sales manager.
The interior is beautiful. Doesn't need to change every 2 or 3 damn years.
It's the greedy dealers, all their BS markups, $699 for Mopar protection, $299 for wheel locks, $2,500 for Millennium package $799 for spray-on paint protection. And $1,200 for Doc fees. I hate all dealers!
Well said .Once the dealer got a customer they like to squeeze you for money ..
Never met a dealer that had my interest in mind. It is all about how much money they can get out of you.
Well said.
lol yeahs the wheel lock "package" for $299. lmfao. you can walk over to the parts counter and buy them for $59
Granger Motors, Inc (Ford, Jeep, Dodge dealer) in Iowa is EXCEPTIONAL...PHENOMENAL. Granger is ALL about the customer. I purchased a 2022 Ford F350 Lariat 7.3L - UP - BAP - Tremor Package with Warn 12,000 LB winch at 2% BELOW invoice......when most all other dealers were selling these trucks at MSRP or an additional $5,000 to $10,000 above MSRP. The truck is awesome!!! I live in a remote scenic area...Rocky Mountain state and it was well worth the plane fare and 865 mile drive home. Granger operates with bottom line pricing, no add-ons or markups and great service!
i have a very cherry 09 ram Laramie i paid 5k for with now 413k on my last oil change. highway driven. runs like new. replaced front struts and got new front fenders because of the rust. best 6k total i ever spent.
I got a 2021 Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71 LTZ with just about every option. Spray in bed liner, technology package, heads up display, rear view camera mirror, heated and cooled seats, adaptive cruise control, etc it was listed for $65k and I walked out the door $57k with an additional warranty. Today that same vehicle basically but a 2023 is MSRP'd at $71,000 with an $8,000 market adjustment. Not to mention my interest rate then is half of what it would be now. SO that's a difference of my truck that I got in December of 2020 for $57k at 4% interest rate vs now $78,000 at 8 or 9% interest rate. It is freaking insane
I got a 21 GMC AT4 in August of 21. Sticker was about the same as yours but I don't have all the bells and whistles, just the 6.2 and standard AT4 stuff and we paid about the same. At that time, where I live, there was no negotiation because they couldn't keep trucks on the lot. I now have just under 12k miles on it
You still got bent over 😂
@@zackzander425 nah it's a great truck and you couldn't find cheaper within 1000 miles. I checked.
@@slagdemon He can't afford the truck because he couldn't pay cash for it. $57,000 + interest is foolish to pay for a 1/2 ton truck. They are not made for serious work. If you don't make money with a truck you don't need it.
@@zackzander425 😅😅
Bought my 2019 Ram 1500 classic tradesman with the 5.7 and a 8speed with LSD and I couldnt be happier. At the end of a generation is the best all the kinks worked out. Screw paying 70k for a new truck with shit you dont know if it will last.
Pickups have become nothing more than a rolling mortgage for the middle class. Add on gas prices and insurance and it’s not worth owning one.
They really aren’t built all that well either. CUVs seem to last a lot longer. I see 10 year old CRVs that look brand new. All 10 year old pickups are rusted up junk. They are full of rattles, get poor mpg, dangerous turning circle, poor handling, can’t park, and have low cargo capacity for their size.
Well when a base truck costs over $50,000 for a 1500 and a loaded one is $100,000 no wonder us working class can’t afford them
Who can afford an $80k truck? That's crazy.
I could go out and buy 10 tomorrow.
@B ohhh big boy. Proud of you
I'd be interested in a 1500 now that they have better Consumer Reports reviews but the price is prohibitive and I'll keep rolling in my 2006 Tundra with 347,000 miles on it.
All trucks are way too expensive.
We considered one, but decided to just keep our old one alive.
Even crate motors look reasonable now, given the greedy new truck prices.
Big issue with Ram is also the way they group the packaging. Spending thousands just to get a few things that are important to you is a hard sell when other manufacturers allow you to add them individually.
Ford does the same IMO
It’s because the prices for trucks have shot up for a fully loaded ram 1500 you’re spending over 60k people are just buying used trucks.
no idea... but when i was watching your report i was amazed at the report, as I thought that sales were low and this was due to poor manufacturing quality. These companies no longer care about the quality of products non of them made it as they used to do, but rather their interest is raise profits. ( prices of those trucks man been unbelivable and still you did not get what you pay for!!! )
The prices are ridiculous. I bought a fully loaded 5th gen big horn in 2019 for 39k out the door, that same truck now is mid 50s out the door. For the literal exact same truck.
I bought a Ram Rebel in 2020 and tried to get the 3 year deferred payment financing Ram advertised on TV . Then the salesman handed me over to the finance dept. I own my home free and clear, have zero debt and a credit score that averages 800+ but somehow the Ram finance manager said my credit score wasn't high enough to qualify for the delayed financing offer. Otherwise it was all false advertising and a bait and switch. So then I offered to pay cash and the finance manager started stuttering and brought back a contract about 20 pages long full of small print. So I sat down and started reading it. Three hours later I concluded they had added $1,800 dollars to the agreed upon price and demanded they take it back. The finance guy started to argue with me and I just shut him down said its very simple either you honor the original price you quoted or I'll walk out the door which is it? They reduced the price and I have enjoyed driving the truck but after that experience my next vehicle won't be a Mopar.
2.15.2024. Mac Haik CDJR Katy Fwy is offering 18k off their 2024 Ram 1500 Limiteds.
Ram has looked unique since 1994 now they look just like every other pickup
Morgan & Morgan will only take cases where liability is clear. Also. They will take 40% of your settlement yet they claim insurance companies are evil?
The worst Law Firm to deal with, I live where most of them live, I can remember when they had former President Obama, as a guest @ John Morgans home residents, in Lake Mary Florida, very political family, would be my last choice of law firms if needed.
The major issue is pricing. Most everyone loves the high output Cummins and only want one thing changed. Remove the emissions crap. But the price is the biggest issue. $100 grand for a truck is out right ridiculous. My 2011 Laramie 3500 with the 6.7 was $54000ish. Now same truck and package is $90000. Dumb
No different than the housing market, grocery stores , gas prices, interest rates. Let’s talk about all of it. Not just vehicle prices. Let’s push all of it.
If anyone is interested in a new RAM call Mark Dodge in Lake Charles,La. $10K all 1/2 tons all the time. Still to high since the MSRP is $10K higher than a ‘20…yes…but it’s better discounts than you can find on a Ford or GM or any other RAM dealer.
With parent company Stellantis wanting to shift to a subscriptions based package for options and software, I know I would hold off on any of their products until we see how that plays out. I don't want to support a company that is going to do that.
Manufacturers in general have lost their minds re: prices. My 05 Ram diesel went out the door loaded for $43K. The friend I bought in from in '16 replaced it with the exact same (but new of course) truck for $63K. Same truck now: $80-100K. WTF Who's going to pay $80-100 K for a friggin' truck? Not your average "I need a truck for what I do" working guy (or gal). It's just nuts. I'll just keep driving and fixing my old one, it's only got 310,000 on it now, lots more left.
80 grand for a depreciating asset is insane. And that's not counting the cost to own.
I understand that we are all in this crisis together.
Now, with that being said THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL IM SPENDING $70,000.00 on a Truck.
I don't care what model or brand it is.
People need to let the car industry people know that we mean business.
Don't buy ANY car from ANY dealer no MATTER what.
Keep driving your own car until the wheels fall off.
Keep changing your oil, your brakes, your tires, Spark plugs...etc
what ever to keep your car going. THESE CAR PRICES ARE CRAZY.
If we all stick together and do this they have to rethink these prices and change things around.
All of the manufacturers have the same problem, a little thing called greed. None of the vehicles are worth what they want for them, just look at all the issues people are having with all of them. They use the cheapest materials, have poor engineering, sloppy assembly practices and reliability issues. We have a local Chevy dealer here, the lot stays full of used late model vehicles with low miles, something is not right with that kind of situation even considering that some people trade every couple of years.
I've been sooo very close in buying a brand new '22 limited a couple of weeks ago.... 94000€ here in Europe. I opted out at the end.... It didn't feel right to pay that amount of money for a truck... and it sucks big time cuz I really like that truck and it's the only one I really want . And just for your info a fully loaded TRX costs 165000€ right now over here.......IN-SANE!!
Absolutely crazy … What country are you reside in?
@@Nikowalker007 Belgium
@@Gallows_Motorcycle Ok thanks for the reply! Damn that’s a pretty stiff price! Cars in EU are notoriously expensive due to all kinds of luxury and eco taxes but I’ve heard that small pick up trucks like Ram can be registered or classified as a small business delivery or a farm vehicle and hence can’t be considered a luxury vehicle but I guess it works only in some EU countries like Germany but I’m not 100% sure …
@@Nikowalker007 yeah that's true... this is the reason why pick-ups are so interesting for small business owners (if they can prove they have the use for it... construction/towing etc...). One time registration tax is 160€ and there is no annual drive tax... that's pretty nice. A normal person would pay a crazy money to get it on the road.
Ugly looking truck for that price. $76,000 holy sh*t!
No mention of fuel economy. At $4 and $5 bucks per gallon I'm sure people are thinking "why am I driving this to the mall"?
Same reason a lot of cars over 40-50k aren't selling - interest rates and payments.
Overall a great product but pricing is absolutely insane, they need to re-evaluate their pricing structure.
I ordered a 22 Ram 2500 diesel. The dealer told me MARP plus taxes and title fees (normal stuff). I would get anything Chrysler was offering at time of delivery. It took 3 months for delivery (got it in November). I paid below msrp with finance rate below 3%.
This doesn’t include the fact that gas prices have gone up substantially the last few years
Ram dropping its 3.0l diesel with over 30mpg is a major blunder.
I think it's the consumers constantly wanting to buy the newest model truck. Purchase a vehicle, drive it till the wheels fall off, and then go get a new one.
I wish car dealers were like back in the day where you can personally build the car like every individual part now you can only choose certain packages or there's certain things you can't choose on the vehicles my grandparents built brand new nova chevelles impalas all buy pieces built the way they wanted you could choose what engine what transmission what interior what colors
For the heavy duty market, the TH-cam videos of the frame cracking probably doesn't help sales.
So you don't understand that normal people don't want to spend $60,000 for a mildly equipped truck with a monthly payment of $700 a month. Nor do they want to deal with greedy dealers and the ridiculous Market Adjustment price
Lots of people looking for electric or hybrid, most of those are sold out
The 6.7s are great it’s the best diesel you can buy. Powerstroke is a close second and duramax sucks. They could use a better transmission.
The most expensive mark-ups. Muddied information with them changing the towing capacity of trucks after the fact. Also, the lowest payload capacity of all truck brands.
I just picked up a 2020 Ram Limited, has 30k miles, original window sticker was in glove box, listed at 88k, i got it for $56k, this is in Canadian $, it was an average price where i am, some were a lot more but none were less.
I can't believe there is a vid on why Ram's aren't selling? Obvious to me, but I'll watch the vid anyhow.
well, ya get what ya pay for. i'm a function first guy, bells and whistles mean nothing to me.
if ya want a hemi, and the power and torque it gives, ya have to buy a ram. if ya want a 300k turbo diesel
with minimum maintance cost, ya have to buy a ram. if ya wanna pull off the lot and hook up and pull a heavy trailer
ya have to buy a ram or a GM. fords towing package is after market and expensive.
if you are buying a truck to impress your buddys/girl friend, go cheap. if you make a living will your truck, buy a ram.
in six months when the new trucks STILL have not sold, the prices will come down, or the factory rebates will kick in, or both.
These trucks have too many recalls and no solutions still waiting for a recall for a fuel pump it's been over 2 years now. They are not worth the money
It’s purely price, who can afford these mortgage prices for trucks. It’s insane I can’t even get basic trucks for work anymore
I’ve got a 2018 F-150 XLT with the V-6 and honestly..I love my truck, but would love an upgrade….ie…a New Ram…I had a 2008 once and it was an awesome truck… I make good money at my job and could honestly still do the huge payments after I traded in my current truck…BUT…I honestly DO NOT want to spend 80 Grand on a new truck…that’s just frickin insane…
2021 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummings tradesmen 42k we bought new in May 2021
The old vehicle looks better to me than the new one. The new one looks like a suburban shopping mall cruiser
Been a Mopar guy most of my life . At one time you could buy a good truck at a reasonable price then the manf. started putting fancy junk in them and the dealers really got aggressive with pricing so now work truck cost more than a corvette , that is just plain bullshit , it's still a truck . I know many that would buy a truck but can't just too much crap .
I put more of the blame on voters that elected incompetent politicians. Inflation always hits the middle class the hardest. It’s not like ram executives decided to start being greedy. At the end of the day, companies have to make a profit.
It's definitely the prices combined with ridiculous interest rates.. I drive a 2014 ram 1500 and have loved it all these years, but if the prices don't come down by the time I have to purchase a new one, I might would have to downgrade to a Ford Ranger or Toyota Tacoma..
Anyone who would pay these ridiculous prices for a truck made by one of the premier junk dealers, FIAT, has lost their minds!
I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THE FRAMES KEEP FOLDING!
I’m answering the question you asked in the title- “why ram trucks aren’t selling”. Let me take a stab at it….. 🤔🤔🤔… Ok, ok I think I got it!…. BECAUSE THEY WANT SIX F@CKING FIGURES FOR A TRUCK!!!!!! A TRUCK THAT WAS $35K 10 YEARS AGO!!!!! Do the math on it at 8% interest you’ll be just at $100k once you pay off a $77k truck (60 months). Not to mention your payment is $1500 a month.
Here is an idea,why don’t you come out with a 30k midsize truck and add a trx package to compete with the ranger raptor , come on ram
They are selling in my neck of the woods especially 2500s. I opted for a 2020 2500 with 61k miles. Big horn night edition with loaded up options closer to a Laramie pkg. $38,900. Not cheap but 30k less than a new one
All trucks from the big 3 are charging $85,000 for a pick up. A half ton with a regular gas engine can hit $70,000! Not every8ne can afford them.but people are buying so priced will rise to consumer resistance and they have not found the ceiling yet.
As for Ram, I bought a 2010 Ram 2500 Laramie Cummins that was so top end it sat in the show room floor and bot outside. It was the biggest piece of shit. Little things started failing right off the start. Then it started leaking oil alevery other month. Six trips to the dealer for leaks. Then in a trio across Nevada, I crossed Aystin on Hwy 50, thr Loneliest Highway in America, when thr water pump failed. When it failed the pulley seized snapping the serpentine belt. I was dead on the road. I walked 1 Mike back to town and found a Cafe open on a Sunday morning and I was able to call and get a tow truck in my AAA membership. Got it towed back to Fallon. The next morning I was able to get it towed back to Reno for repairs. What a piece of crap.
The interior was meh. I had the worst back pain sitting on the seats for any length of time. The interior was sort of cheap. Something was constantly squeaking in the center console. Then I noticed thr fender flares were failing and not sticking to the fender wells. Always something. I t utned it back in and graded it for another vehicle. Biggest piece of garbage I've owned. Ironically thr second biggest piece of garbage? Th3 car right before the Ram, a Toyota 4Runner I bought brand new from the dealer. First 3 years were meh. Then years 4-6 was a constant return to the dealer. $3,600 worth of various problems later, I got rid of it. Toyota. Oh what a feeling.
1st This is your opinion ,2nd Its called Supply and Demand .
The older 2500 and 3500 Trucks are selling like crazy I have been offered 10K more than I paid for my 2005 3500 nondual wheel 5.9 Cummings Truck
The decline in full size truck sales is direct;y connected to gas prices and interest rates it's not just Trucks that are declining the Car market as a whole is going to tank right into the toilet in the next 2 years if your looking to buy a used car or truck wait until the end of 2023 or beginning of 2024 the prices are going to fall like a rock it will be worse than 2008 the real estate market is not going to crash this time but Vehicles will during Covid the dealers and banks were giving loans to anyone with a pulse now we are seeing massive repo's I work in the Automotive industry and there have been more car and truck repo's in the last 8 months then all of 2020 and 2021 and its not over yet it's just getting started the worst is yet to come very bad for banks and dealers buy great for buyers many car dealers are going to go out of business Carvana is doomed the bought way to many cars and trucks Car max is is also in trouble if you work ant either one of those company's you should be forming an exit plan
Pricing is an issue but I’m not seeing a ton of inventory where I’m at. Most half tons being sold have after market items added and now they want $100k for a lifted black widow edition big horn
Worse than the price is the craftsmanship of the trucks. Transmissions going out before 40k miles. Diesel engines blowing up.
Yeah, I've seen people talking about their 2022 3500 auto Transmissions are going out..
So if they put a better transmission behind their power-train. I do think that would help.
OR if they did something crazy & threw manuals back in their trucks? I know ram truck were popular for holding out that long,
it'd probably bring back their niche customer base.. and make some sales? (Okay that's probably a pipe dream?)
No trucks are selling much. Truck inventories are high as demand slows considerably.
The Price Period its out of sight!
They charge way too much for their trucks. The prices insurance companies won't pay that price. It is stupid to pay that much for a truck. When you drive it off the lot it is only worth half the price you pay for it.
he's right their engines are falling behind the competition.
Maybe consider Ben that Ram HEMI has just runs its course…5.7 or 6.4, nothing distinct about the platform. The 6.4 has had a number of problems at the 100k mark and it drinks too much fuel. Cummins in HD is a great engine, not many fans of the transmission. What about a hybrid diesel electric? Love the rear coil innovation, PW off road needs a diesel with a winch. Price, price, price… that’s I bought an x5 and kept my Tundra with 220k miles, runs fine, tows like a beast instead of buying a Ram. I hope to buy one someday, until then Mopar in my garage is my Jeep Rubicon for now.
Just purchased a Laramie 2500. There was only 1 in my large city that had the gasoline engine, and there were 3 available in the capital. I’m not sure, maybe there are a few more state wide? Going by availability, I’m definitely not seeing a lack of sales in HD trucks. This is probably more accurate for half ton trucks, there were plenty of those on the lot and they are only $10k less than what mine cost.
100% pricing. Do I want to pay for food and housing, or do I want to pay for a way overpriced truck.
In Canada seems like the pricing is opposite, I've been looking and rams are now the cheapest
Had all three brands in last 10 years. Ram had more problems that my Fords and even GM’s.
The back leaking window/ brake light and the infamous leaking sunroof.
I don’t think people are tired of the Hemi engine, in fact the loyalists are quite upset over the Hemi being replaced by the new Hurricane engine.
They may need a new power train but the Hurricane isn’t it. They’ve long needed the 6.4 from the Challenger/Charger in the 1500 truck. Have absolutely zero interest in a small displacement turbo engines after owning an ecoboost.
NO truck is worth $50K, much less $100K. All new trucks are ridiculous.
I bought a new dodge ram 1500 quad cab with a 5.7 in 2008 for 18,500 out the door that same truck is worth 4000 bucks and you can't get a new one for 45,000
There are only so many people that need trucks !
“Why RAMS aren’t selling?” O-V-E-R-P-R-I-C-E-D….let them rust on the lot for 10 months and watch the price’s plummet
Saw a virtually identical video concerning F-150’s.
Rams are 15% cheaper than any other brand.. idk where you are getting they are more expensive than ford and chevy. The reason they don’t sell is because it has the same 20 year old 5.7l and the same design for 5 years with no changes.
why arent they selling? in this economy whom can afford upwards of a hundred grand truck, period
Its Price and Low Reliability, touch screen issues, Transmission and suspensons
Once Stellantis took over, they went CRAZY on pricing. My 2017 fully loaded Wrangler Sahara was $45,000 and I got it with everything. A 2023 would be $20,000 more....I'm not even kidding
Similar story here. I bought a 2016 Sahara with the "Backcountry" package. All options; auto, nav, hard top, fancy radio , tow package, gears rear locker, even the side airbags. $45,200. Now a similar JL add almost $20k more. Loaded diesel Rubicons $70k. 392? $85k. It's madness.
@@jeepthing98 exactly. They are f'ing insane at stellantis. Sales of wranglers are actually dropping if you look at the stats. It's the price.
No point in updating a truck when the market is down I think they should ride it out until the economy is better 🤔
Ram trucks are too expensive to buy, unless they are as durable as a Hilux, which is doubtful. The durable trucks and utes to buy now are Toyotas, Hondas and Nissan Frontiers.
You are not even mentioning the goofy 2024 Ram 1500 that only has a electronic motor in it.
Price is number 1. Number 2 is payload! I want to buy a RV or 5th wheel I don’t want to only have the choice of a top of the line 88,000 truck.
Wow I paid $15.000.00 for my loaded Ram 1500 back in 2015 ,,now they're $65,000,00 + ?
The higher price is the only reason I'm still on the sidelines. Negotiating to a reasonable price is out of reach and I'm not interested in listening to a cool-aid drunk sales person.
This must be the new IN thing to make a video about. Everyone is. The informed consumer knows why. Most videos just speculate as to why. I will say this. Parts supply has not slowed, it has actually increased by 30%. I question how or why it can when they are not selling
But all the trucks have seen big price increases. The ram is in line, probably cheaper actually than a like model from the others.
Ford and Ram are seriously overpriced. Ram has a significant problem with fit and finish issues. Ford dealers are advertising MSRP thousands higher then saying that hike is what they're discounting the vehicle.
Why anyone would choose Fiat Chrystler over anything Japanese or American is just beyond my scope of knowledge, it makes absolutely no sense in any way to me.
why aren't people buying? price + dealer markup. the end.
its just a working truck!!! Why is $70K????? What a hell that people is smoking when asking that price???? economy is down, salary down , but prices grow up ,tolls up, insurance up!!! only one exit in this situation is stop buying cars ,keep current cars ,let that manufactory and dealers quit smoking that shit and start making cars and prices according buyers preference.
I think that both the price and the power trains need to be updated to keep them selling
I was looking to buy a Ram Rebel at the end of this year/beginning of next as my first truck. Might have to wait a bit longer until these prices come down or buy secondhand.