Rarity: There I was, at the end of the throne room, when Tirek grabbed Twilight! He was getting closer, closer... Sweetie Belle: And? Rarity: I THREW A ROCK AT HIM!! Sweetie Belle: ... Rarity: It was a big rock...
"My destiny is a stupid ROCK?!" -Rarity, season 1. Yes Rarity of season 1, it is. Using a stupid rock is probably the most important thing you've now done, your part in shaping destiny.
I think the general consensus is that Tirek in Season 5 stole Discord's energy merely for the power boost; actually tapping into the chaotic aspect of Discord's energy is what Tirek seemingly can't do because he's pure evil, not a chaotic, unbalanced entity like Discord.
This makes sense - Tirek absorbs magic, but seemingly not its abilities. He never grows wings, or the ability to teleport; so he absorbed the "battery" part of Discord's magic, but knows he can't control the "function"
Still doesn’t make sense, as Tirek himself says that he devours and absorbs magic, not energy. He should have been able to absorb Discord’s magic from the Bell just as he once did from Discord directly. Ergo, he should’ve had no problem absorbing Discord’a magic from the Bell. If anything, I think it would’ve made this episode more epic if he had. He would’ve been gigantic. Give Cozy Glow her Alicorn magic, give Chrysalis the ability to use the magic of whatever form she has taken, and give Tirek his giant form. The Mane Six and everyone else defeating them would’ve had more impact that way. Though I still think the idea of Discord posing as Grogar to redeem these villains to give Twilight more confidence was better. They’d betray him, use the magic from the Bell, and unintentionally release the real Grogar, who was trapped inside of it. The three of them would work with the Mane Six to stop Grogar, admitting at the end that they are friends with each other.
well since Discord is a creature of Chaos releasing villains to help the main character grow in his mind it makes sense to him. A normal pony of course it would be a dumb idea.
Dusty was on to something, if Grogar is the father of monsters, and his bell turns Cozy Glow into an Alicorn, which is a Chimera of a unicorn and Pegasus, Zecora's memory potion requires Alicorn Magic, Twilight used Sombra's magic, Sombra's magic is inherently evil by using a target's fear against them...so *are* Alicorns truly monsters, monsters that rebelled against Grogar?
We have to remember when considering the Discord Magic thing: Tirek drains essence, so he probably got all of Discord's magic, but it was probably distilled into raw energy. The bell likely just takes Character A's magic as is and gives it to Character B.
That's a really nice theory and makes more sense now since how Tirek before absorb the magic of the 4 alicorns but he doesn't had their powers like moving the sun and moon or something like that something that Storm King did when he absorb the power of the princesses into the staff
The only valid argument I've seen for "Tirek's schtick copies abilities" is that he made Twilight's friends appear in bubbles. But Tirek opened a portal to Tartarus *before* draining Discord, so I don't believe that's the case. I think his magic drain is significantly more inefficient than Grogar's bell, which does a far better job of bestowing abilities associated with the magic.
Hmm, good point. He drains core magic (faded eyes and coats) but can leave the magic of the individual alone, thus why he can only drain living beings of magic; Where as this bell can siphon not only core magic but the magic an individual has in all magical aspects, like unto the spell used by Star Swirl to maintain the rotations of the sun and moon, at that time on a dying eclipse....wait, no their cutie marks weren't removed. So it removes their magical abilities and powers and some of their core magic to negate it but not remove it? Sorry, theory elements of my own. Definitely got some things to write about and determine....
@@thadmaster7 .....Maybe the fact that they tarnished my legacy ruined my reputation and possibly ruined any serious return in the future for my character in all his former glory. ..... We also didn't see another amazing Tirek VS Twilight fight.
Grogar's Bell could also contain the _properties_ of the magic, which is something Tirek can't do, hence why he didn't gain chaos magic when he drained Discord back in season 4. He merely gains the magnitude of the power, but not its properties.
Of course, being turned to stone, like this video mentioned, gives the opportunity for redemption in the future, just like Discord. Not that it's likely, but then again, we would've said the same amount Discord, and here we are.
I was surprised, to be honest. First of all, that Discord would suggest it; he knows just how awful it was for him. Second, when the punishment is about to happen... Luna, Discord, Starlight, Trixie, and Tempest are all right there, and not even one of them speaks up to offer the villains a chance.
Tirek may have drained Discord before, however, at that point in "Twilight's Kingdom", Tirek was stronger than he was here - the bell returned him to his third form, but he took Discord's magic once he was in his fourth form, having just absorbed the magic of the Mane Six. It's likely that in his current state Tirek isn't strong enough to control Discord's magic like he could before, and since he was able to do it before, he would know that he's not cut out for it this time. Also, it appears that when Tirek absorbs the magic of others he converts the foreign magic into his own form of magic, but the bell simply transfers magic from one being to another; so in "Twilight's Kingdom" Tirek didn't have to deal with the chaotic nature of Discord's magic, just the enormous raw power the Lord of Chaos possesses. Another way of looking at is it that Tirek's mana drain only lets him absorb the raw energy of the person he drains. The bell, however, steals not only a person's inherent magical energy, but also the unique powers attached to that energy. When he first drained Discord, Tirek only received a boost to his own power, whereas if he tried to absorb the magic using the bell he'd be overwhelmed by the chaos energy attached to it.
also he absorb the magic of the 4 princesses from Twilight but he didn't get their powers an example of that is when Storm King absorb their powers with the staff and the proof is when he moves the sun and moon!
@@eliasnicolasmiranda4940 Yeah. It seems that Tirek's way of doing it is to convert the magic into raw power that he can just throw around, while Grogar's bell transfers the magic itself with any unique properties it may have being kept.
When Pinkie went Chaos God, it made me realize that the script writers read the mlp infinite time loops. In it Pinkie spent a lot of time looped into the 40k universe and became the Chaos God of PINK. It was disturbing but hillarious.
@@Ven_Pie Mostly the eyes. No matter what form Discord takes, he never changes his eyes. Yellow sclera, bushy white brows? That shit is textbook Discord. Also, the way he was urging them to work together; I had thought that his plan was going to be to teach all of Twilight's remaining foes the magic of friendship so as to turn them into friends
@@ryanbarham8464 Same with me for the most part. I've also took note of the end of the episode "Summer Sun Setback", I'm referring to the entire ending to that episode
@@eventyraren I mean, sure, though to me the just a child excuse doesn't fly when they have been willing to destroy Equestria and murder. She's asleep now anyway, so it isn't quite as dark as you think, especially with the track record of these sorts of seals. Only a matter of time until they are free. I also see Cozy as an orphan, all things considered.
One of the many things I’ve loved was how it was shown how insanely powerful the chaos magic is. Even if it was only for a few seconds the ponies who had it practically went cosmic
Yes! I thought this would take another three months to come out! ACRaceBest worked really hard and fast on this one I guess. Thanks ACRaceBest! You’re the best!
When it was first revealed that Discord was Grogor My IMMEDIATE thought was that he was trying to show Tirek, Cozy and Chrysalis the "magic of friendship" to prove to twilight how far she'd come and how far he'd come because of her And I thought the episode "Frenemies" was proof that my theory was right I was so disappointed to find out his real motivation And honestly, I think it would have been kinda cool if at least ONE of them was redeemed
Indeed. They were clearly setting up a transition arc for them in Frenemies but just ended up doing nothing with it. Honestly, what was even the point of bringing them in season nine? They swore revenge and by the end they still swear revenge. They where already no threat to Equestria by the beginning of season nine until Discord messed up big time. Overall, I'm too very disappointed in what could've been a way more interesting story rather than the typical finales for FiM at that point.
would you believe me if i said if one were to be redeemed it would be Chrysalis, like even to this day i feel Cozy Glow would never accept the kind of Friendship twilight believes in and instead believes of Friendship as Power... like honestly she is just too far GONE
@@Federation-Cosmo-Boltaccording to Jim miller the trio were never meant to reform and the scene in frenemies was intended to just mislead the audience
Star Script everything ends. But the funny thing about life is that even though everything eventually ends, nothing ever really _dies._ mlp will continue to inspire, entertain, and comfort people for years and years to come.
Yeah, I feel really sad.... I mean I know everything has to come to a end but.... Fuck! It came to quick. I will miss MLP and the fandom. By the way I never got the chance to go to a bronycon 😭
@@superheavyxd2684 - sad you never got to any of the pony conventions.. but why do you act like MLP is gone forever??? MLP is strong, so even with like G5 coming, fans of G4 and Older will continue with new things
@@irkenpony17 Yeah you are right! It just felt sad that G4 is over but you are right! We will continue! Thank you Iriken! I think I needed someone or should I say SOMEPONY!...... Anyway thank you Iriken! Oh and I'll show myself out.....
RPGQueen87 And the types of animals. Minotaurs being half human half bull and centaurs being half human half horse. Makes me wonder if humans once lived in ancient Equestria or magic mutated certain civilizations.
@@thirdplanet4471 personally if humans did live in Equestria that we were are a extremely ancient civilization that left their world behind or something, now that would be interesting finding old human relics that could put what the alicorns can do to shame would be epic
So sad Solrac, PhilyPu, Orchestral Design, Living Tombstone and Nowacking couldn't join you. It's thanks to them and all of you that I've stayed with the fandom for this long
So when I first saw Grogar to be revealed as Discord, my immediate thought was that he was actually trying to teach all of the pass villains to be friends the same way he was taught about friendship to prove to twilight that she really was a good ruler/leader. I was actually pretty disappointed when that wasn't the case. It seems like a waste of a good twist Like remember the episode where they all work together to get the Bell? It was hinting at the three of them becoming friends but then it never went anywhere with that plotline. Now imagine they find out discord was trying to force friendship on them for twilight's sake It also doesn't make discord look as douchey His motive would have been more justified. Instead of wanting to cause a conflict for Twilight to fix, he would have been proving to her that he learned that "friendship is magic"
I mean, that still might have been the case, he might have been hoping to soften them so Twilight could convert them in the actual confrontation, thus boosting her confidence even more. But that plan didn't seem to be working, so he was gonna go with plan B of just having them defeated and probably imprisoned once more by the time they betrayed him. I mean, he was putting an awful lot of emphasis on teamwork, but from his perspective, it just wasn't sinking in.
I think a lot of people were theorizing and hoping the villains would side with Twilight at the finale to defeat Grogar, the bigger evil, and it would have been pretty cool that Discord, on his own would of gone behind their backs to teach friendship to other villains so they can feel what he did when he was given a second chance. Granted it took him 6 seasons, but he learned nevertheless. The plan just backfired on him. Would of been cool but oh well. Least we have fanfics for that.
That would’ve been so much better. The villains could’ve befriended each other and the Bell would be the main contention point. Perhaps it contains Grogar’s spirit as well? By using it, they’d accidentally release Grogar, who would challenge Twilight at her coronation. The villains would be part of the team that defeats the real Grogar. Discord would prove that Twilight’s friendship really can solve almost all of their problems, and it would feel like a fitting end to the series. Not to say I hate this finale, because I don’t. Just feels like it would’ve been more poetic and sensical if Discord had been trying to show the villains the power of friendship.
Okay, I haven’t been around for SEVERAL seasons. I just wanted to be here for the end. I watched like one other bronies react since. And hold up. SPIKE HAS WINGS?
I have a theory about Tirek. When he took Discords magic, he already already had the magic/essence of the earth ponies, pegasi, unicorns and then finally Cadence, Celestia and Luna. So Tirek had bulked up to a point where his body could handle the massive amount of magic. With him being as small as he was in these two episodes, he just just didn't have the girth to accommodate it. For Pinkie though ummm, it's Pinkie Pie, we don't question it.
It ain't over.... most of us stopped watching the show at some point just to come back for the finale. The finale changes nothing, lol. You gotta remember that other just as large fandoms like furries, sonic, and Star Trek have kept their fandoms nice and ridiculously active despite a lack of consistent official content/official content being garbage.... My point is: the ride is not over until fanart, fanfics, music, unofficial merchandise by fans, discussion, etc stops. Nobody has to feel weird about this. Me personally, I'm probably not gonna stop talking about horses on /mlp/, reading Fimfiction stories, browsing derpibooru, listening to music, etc.... It's all a huge part of me life. /) my dudes
plus the creators have said a new generation could be coming iirc. we dont know if it will be quite as good, or if the brony community will join it or stick with remembering G4, but either way the series isnt over yet.
I think with the whole thing of 'no one can control chaos magic', there's a difference between taking the magic and controling it. Let me try to explain... When taking his magic back in the season 4 finale, I believe Tirek was more or less taking the energy, and converting it into his own magic. He couldnt actually use any spells or anything. Like when he took the princesses magic, he didnt test the control of the sun and moon like most villians would. He just started destroying shit. And I don't remember him using teleport either... I guess another way of putting it would be like One for All from MHA. Obviously past users had quirks but All Might and Deku only has the enhanced strength and speed, not necessarily past user's quirks. (There's more I can say to explain, but i can't without spoiling shit from the manga so....) Anyway, I think that's an explanation for that scene. Oh! I also think there'd also be a difference between taking and giving the magic, maybe? I ont know, this is all just a theory really.
Anyone else catch that sigh sound effect as Celestia and Luna's combined magic attack got absorbed into the bell sounding rather...sexual? It also sounded like their necks broke the instant they both hit the ground afterward. Plus, as much as I find the "Big NO!" trope to be overused, Twilight sounded genuinely horrified. Props to Ms. Strong for that!
I think of tirek as draining magic like draining a battery. Whereas the bell takes their magical capabilities. Tirek couldn't use new magic he wasn't capable of using before he absorbed the magic of discord or the alicorns. The bell stole the magics properties. That's my head cannon.
*Sees Mic the Microphone and D. Notive* OMG THEY'RE BACK!!!!! *Hears Mic being scared of kids* Talk about a 180 turn, he had no problem scaring foals in BDP's Nightmare Night's PMV lol.
"Tasty, tasty crossfires." Why does that sound like something Homer Simpson would say? Lol! Seriously, this show has so many parallels to The Simpsons that it's uncanny. All that's missing is an episode where Rainbow Dash mistakes Derpy for an alien. Lol!
Notice when twilight used the rock as shield it had purple sparkly thing all over and the villains couldnt break through, but at 50:03 the rock's purple sparkly thing is gone and starts to fall apart. I'd like to think that the rock was able to hold off tirek, cozy, and chrysalis' magic because twilight reinforced it with her magic.
According to series director Jim Miller, Discord impersonating Grogar was planned from the beginning of Season 9, as they wanted Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy Glow to be the main antagonists of the finale because they had more of a personal connection to the main characters. The defeat of the Mean 3 was also meant to be symmetrical to Discord's battle with Celestia and Luna and later his defeat in Season 2.
Why the hell no reactor ever CANNOT understand how Grogar's Bell works ? Tirek's ability convertes magic into raw power. He can't use any special abilities that consisted of that magic. Grogar's bell however transmits the magic from one being to another, allowing the latter to use all magic abilities in the bell as if they were their own.
1:09:08 they finally made the Pinkie and the Brian reference a season after introduction The pony voiced by Brians voice actor and well after the fandom
I’m rewatching this 4 years later and I like that there continues to be a difference in the show between Tirek’s powers and Grogar’s bell. Tirek seemingly takes a magical component used to create magic, using that to generate more magic within himself. Hence why cutiemarks disappear. The bell, on the other hand, takes all “refined” magic, including the reserves, rendering them flightless and powerless. Which is why no one can take Discord’s magic. His magical component is vast but ultimately limited. Eons of stored magic though? Much harder to use
@@sandwichgod692 Dude, think about it. The fandom is now on it's own. The show is over and the fandom is now itself alone. That is what makes me say the fandom is only just beginning.
Ah yes, Brownies React, I almost forgot about that alternate React series. They might as well have been Wallflowers React. . . 0_0' (Think they'll do these too?)
Yes. There will be a separate react for Episode 26. ;-)
yay!
You better not make me cry again damn it...
Jaxblade better be part of that damnit. I want to see him break down in tears.
I’m sure he will with what’s in it
All Rightski.
Pinkie pie with discords powers might just be the most terrifying thing I've ever heard or seen
it will forever be the most blursed image to been seen nothing can top it
When is this? I’ve watched a few videos and I still can’t catch it. :p
@@sdab4856 right after the villains defeat
Happened in the comics, she turned herself into an Alicorn after accidently entering and bonding to Discords dimension.
Like Captain America, she is worthy.
Rarity: There I was, at the end of the throne room, when Tirek grabbed Twilight! He was getting closer, closer...
Sweetie Belle: And?
Rarity: I THREW A ROCK AT HIM!!
Sweetie Belle: ...
Rarity: It was a big rock...
"My destiny is a stupid ROCK?!" -Rarity, season 1.
Yes Rarity of season 1, it is. Using a stupid rock is probably the most important thing you've now done, your part in shaping destiny.
@@ravenscroftraven1786 Also, you had a crush on a rock. It's fate, Rarity.
"I get it!"
"Shut up, Nappa!"
OMFG YES!!!
@@simonep8613 spoilers:
the reason she is singel in the last episode is becuase she loves a rock😱
I think the general consensus is that Tirek in Season 5 stole Discord's energy merely for the power boost; actually tapping into the chaotic aspect of Discord's energy is what Tirek seemingly can't do because he's pure evil, not a chaotic, unbalanced entity like Discord.
This makes sense - Tirek absorbs magic, but seemingly not its abilities. He never grows wings, or the ability to teleport; so he absorbed the "battery" part of Discord's magic, but knows he can't control the "function"
Season 5? Tirek was season 4?
Still doesn’t make sense, as Tirek himself says that he devours and absorbs magic, not energy. He should have been able to absorb Discord’s magic from the Bell just as he once did from Discord directly.
Ergo, he should’ve had no problem absorbing Discord’a magic from the Bell. If anything, I think it would’ve made this episode more epic if he had. He would’ve been gigantic.
Give Cozy Glow her Alicorn magic, give Chrysalis the ability to use the magic of whatever form she has taken, and give Tirek his giant form. The Mane Six and everyone else defeating them would’ve had more impact that way.
Though I still think the idea of Discord posing as Grogar to redeem these villains to give Twilight more confidence was better. They’d betray him, use the magic from the Bell, and unintentionally release the real Grogar, who was trapped inside of it. The three of them would work with the Mane Six to stop Grogar, admitting at the end that they are friends with each other.
@@Doomzdeh Tirek said that he can only absorb magic from living beings, so he couldn't absorb the magic from inside the bell
Discord: Nobody is more chaotic than me.
Pinkie: *Hold my cannon.*
well since Discord is a creature of Chaos releasing villains to help the main character grow in his mind it makes sense to him. A normal pony of course it would be a dumb idea.
richbuild pinkie is the only character other than discord chaotic enough to wield the chaos magic
Hold my canon
You misspelled canon. Lol see what I did there?
FEqBrony well, he’s referring to Pinkie Pie’s camera.
Dusty was on to something, if Grogar is the father of monsters, and his bell turns Cozy Glow into an Alicorn, which is a Chimera of a unicorn and Pegasus, Zecora's memory potion requires Alicorn Magic, Twilight used Sombra's magic, Sombra's magic is inherently evil by using a target's fear against them...so *are* Alicorns truly monsters, monsters that rebelled against Grogar?
………
WHAT THE FUCK?!???! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
We have to remember when considering the Discord Magic thing: Tirek drains essence, so he probably got all of Discord's magic, but it was probably distilled into raw energy. The bell likely just takes Character A's magic as is and gives it to Character B.
That's actually exactly what I was thinking, when tirek took discords power in his own way, it was just energy, not chaos magic.
That's a really nice theory and makes more sense now since how Tirek before absorb the magic of the 4 alicorns but he doesn't had their powers like moving the sun and moon or something like that
something that Storm King did when he absorb the power of the princesses into the staff
The only valid argument I've seen for "Tirek's schtick copies abilities" is that he made Twilight's friends appear in bubbles.
But Tirek opened a portal to Tartarus *before* draining Discord, so I don't believe that's the case. I think his magic drain is significantly more inefficient than Grogar's bell, which does a far better job of bestowing abilities associated with the magic.
Hmm, good point. He drains core magic (faded eyes and coats) but can leave the magic of the individual alone, thus why he can only drain living beings of magic; Where as this bell can siphon not only core magic but the magic an individual has in all magical aspects, like unto the spell used by Star Swirl to maintain the rotations of the sun and moon, at that time on a dying eclipse....wait, no their cutie marks weren't removed. So it removes their magical abilities and powers and some of their core magic to negate it but not remove it?
Sorry, theory elements of my own. Definitely got some things to write about and determine....
Yes! Thank you.
"Bitch, what...bitch, where...bitch, why?"
One of the funniest lines Losty has ever said
I use that line now
Timestamp?
Thanos: " I AM INEVITABLE "
Twilight:"AND I AM THE PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP "
And I'm an alcoholic mutated cyborg that killed a god
AND I WAS NEVER IN THE SHOW WHAT KIND IF BULLSHIT IS THAT???!
PINKIE: YOU'RE ALL ICING NOW, BITCHES!!!!
@@emperorgrogar276 is there ANY other reason you dislike the finale OTHER than the fact we dont get to see a grogar fight
@@thadmaster7 .....Maybe the fact that they tarnished my legacy
ruined my reputation
and possibly ruined any serious return in the future for my character in all his former glory.
..... We also didn't see another amazing Tirek VS Twilight fight.
The concept of calling Twilight "Twiggy", just tickles me pink.
I prefer to call her Twily when I want to change her name.
We should all take a moment of Silence for Nowacking, Animated James, Solrac and many others. Who did not join us for this final bronies React.
We have one morw
@acracebest needs to pin this comment
..I miss nowacking reactin,g solracs rage sound effects and James good sense of improv
don't forget fire team harmony.
@@LightfulWingsYT From what I've heard, Nowacking has gone through some...changes this year.
As for James, his channel may be gone
Grogar's Bell could also contain the _properties_ of the magic, which is something Tirek can't do, hence why he didn't gain chaos magic when he drained Discord back in season 4. He merely gains the magnitude of the power, but not its properties.
I love how they dont even hesitate to turn the villains in stone, redemption wasn't even an option
Nathaniel Foga on this case Chrysalis and Cozy Glow rejected friendship when given the opportunity and Tirek is Tirek.
@@thirdplanet4471 exactly
I wanted them turned into stone and then banished to the moon
Of course, being turned to stone, like this video mentioned, gives the opportunity for redemption in the future, just like Discord. Not that it's likely, but then again, we would've said the same amount Discord, and here we are.
I was surprised, to be honest. First of all, that Discord would suggest it; he knows just how awful it was for him. Second, when the punishment is about to happen... Luna, Discord, Starlight, Trixie, and Tempest are all right there, and not even one of them speaks up to offer the villains a chance.
Gabe: You know your career is on its way downhill when you have to do a child's voice in a pony cartoon.
Claire's face: Yeah......Wait a minute!
I was ready for this react, I wasn't ready for the next one.
They killed a child............👍🏻
one of the funniest reactions I've seen in a while. Thank you that my man.
Bruh...
@@NeoStrikevoiceover Not killed exactly, but based on our reactions, close enough. . .
@@NeoStrikevoiceover hasbro: KIDS SHOW also hasbro: KID THE CHILD!!!!!
Also littleshy and dustykatt asking about how pinkie got discords powers to quote firebrand
"Its pinkie pie dont question it"
Tirek may have drained Discord before, however, at that point in "Twilight's Kingdom", Tirek was stronger than he was here - the bell returned him to his third form, but he took Discord's magic once he was in his fourth form, having just absorbed the magic of the Mane Six. It's likely that in his current state Tirek isn't strong enough to control Discord's magic like he could before, and since he was able to do it before, he would know that he's not cut out for it this time.
Also, it appears that when Tirek absorbs the magic of others he converts the foreign magic into his own form of magic, but the bell simply transfers magic from one being to another; so in "Twilight's Kingdom" Tirek didn't have to deal with the chaotic nature of Discord's magic, just the enormous raw power the Lord of Chaos possesses.
Another way of looking at is it that Tirek's mana drain only lets him absorb the raw energy of the person he drains. The bell, however, steals not only a person's inherent magical energy, but also the unique powers attached to that energy. When he first drained Discord, Tirek only received a boost to his own power, whereas if he tried to absorb the magic using the bell he'd be overwhelmed by the chaos energy attached to it.
also he absorb the magic of the 4 princesses from Twilight but he didn't get their powers
an example of that is when Storm King absorb their powers with the staff and the proof is when he moves the sun and moon!
@@eliasnicolasmiranda4940
Yeah. It seems that Tirek's way of doing it is to convert the magic into raw power that he can just throw around, while Grogar's bell transfers the magic itself with any unique properties it may have being kept.
Well said
When Pinkie went Chaos God, it made me realize that the script writers read the mlp infinite time loops. In it Pinkie spent a lot of time looped into the 40k universe and became the Chaos God of PINK. It was disturbing but hillarious.
Now I gotta see this, should I ask for a link or just look for it myself?!
They said this episode isn’t a good finale
BUT I DIDNT LISTEN!
Meme from 2015 to save us all. :-)
Thats a blast from the past
* laughs *
^_^
It actually is a better series finale than the last episode.
@@bonbonpony where the frick is lyra???
I like how almost if not everyone went from being neutral at best towards Starlight to hyping her up. That’s some meta character growth-
Grogar: *turns into Discord*
Every analyst: aasdjghilyasbdlvksdfaWHAAAAAA?
Me: Called it.
I was spoiled about that.
@@saro-kim They gots the same eyes
I called it too. What made you figure it out?
@@Ven_Pie Mostly the eyes. No matter what form Discord takes, he never changes his eyes. Yellow sclera, bushy white brows? That shit is textbook Discord. Also, the way he was urging them to work together; I had thought that his plan was going to be to teach all of Twilight's remaining foes the magic of friendship so as to turn them into friends
@@ryanbarham8464 Same with me for the most part. I've also took note of the end of the episode "Summer Sun Setback", I'm referring to the entire ending to that episode
Jaxblade made my whole day with his reactions especially when he fell off the chair
My head Canon is that cosy is a Dwarf pretending to be a Child, like in that horror movie "orphan".
I mean, maybe, but i like to think she is a child. That is what makes her unique, and my favorite of the trio
@@brolytriplethreat I just thought The ending was less dark if you think like that.
@@eventyraren I mean, sure, though to me the just a child excuse doesn't fly when they have been willing to destroy Equestria and murder. She's asleep now anyway, so it isn't quite as dark as you think, especially with the track record of these sorts of seals. Only a matter of time until they are free.
I also see Cozy as an orphan, all things considered.
@@brolytriplethreat I have NO problem with your idea. It is just my headcanon.
she's Baby Doll
Twilight: “What if I make things worse?”
Littleshy: “get Twilight”
Me: “get Sunset”
Quacking Mad Sunset'll fix all your problems
Fun fact: Sunset was gonna be in this finale, but Jim for some reason didn't allow it.
Me: My little Pony is ending. I'm going to miss this show.
Littleshyfim: THE END IS NEIGH!
@Ryan Fry 1:32:27 technically........
@Ryan Fry did you click the timestamp I put? It is
@@the.nikhiller it was bronydanceparty you dipshit
@@ryanfry140 ur the dip shit it's literally little shy, in the previous cut you even see him get up. You actual idiot
@@the.nikhiller BronyDanceParty said it originally, at the very beginning.
1:27:40
“Some people just have to be turned to stone.”
No truer words were ever said.
59:34
AcRacebest : STONE THEM, STONE THEM, STONE THEM, STONE THEM
1:26:37
AcRacebest : Ooohhhhh...
iman ishraf Wonder how Maud would take that?
They got stoned
Subtle Foreshadowing
I don't think he meant THAT kind of stone XD
Nor the weed kind of stone
rarity: "dress"
viva reverie: *_implodes_*
Spike protecting Rarity few seconds after being knocked out few seconds later is badass af
One of the many things I’ve loved was how it was shown how insanely powerful the chaos magic is. Even if it was only for a few seconds the ponies who had it practically went cosmic
Yes! I thought this would take another three months to come out! ACRaceBest worked really hard and fast on this one I guess. Thanks ACRaceBest! You’re the best!
Funny how Stonehoof gets smaller when Tirek takes his magic, and poison joke made the pony he shares his element with tiny.
R.I.P MLP G4 2010-2019
The best 9 years every
Help I thought that said MLG XD
@@annabelle5182 **airhorn noises**
IDW has confirmed next year they are making a season 10 in comic form much like other tv ips have had such a treatment when they ended on tv
Annetabby436 Should have ended with Season 10 with the real Grogar
41:53
Chrysalis: You'll pay for that
Starlight: Put it on my tab
Me: 𝙁𝙐𝘾𝙆 𝙔𝙀𝘼𝙃 𝙄 𝙇𝙊𝙑𝙀 𝙎𝙏𝘼𝙍𝙇𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏
she was always a sass and i LOVE IT!
second best moment from her: *bitch slaps the book outta twilights hooves*
Too much 90's action movies
Does Equestria even have TVs? Who cares Starlight is still Best Pony.
She is super cool
I love the reactions when it was revealed that Discord was Grogar.
i reacted the same way when i saw it XD had to pause rewind watch again pause and stare and go "wait WHAT...no really WHAT THE HELL?!?!"
Especially JaxBlade
My personal favorite reaction to that revelation was Applegeek's.
Honestly Discord. I know you had good intentions dude. But seriously! Why the fuck did you think that would work?!
When it was first revealed that Discord was Grogor
My IMMEDIATE thought was that he was trying to show Tirek, Cozy and Chrysalis the "magic of friendship" to prove to twilight how far she'd come and how far he'd come because of her
And I thought the episode "Frenemies" was proof that my theory was right
I was so disappointed to find out his real motivation
And honestly, I think it would have been kinda cool if at least ONE of them was redeemed
Indeed. They were clearly setting up a transition arc for them in Frenemies but just ended up doing nothing with it. Honestly, what was even the point of bringing them in season nine? They swore revenge and by the end they still swear revenge. They where already no threat to Equestria by the beginning of season nine until Discord messed up big time. Overall, I'm too very disappointed in what could've been a way more interesting story rather than the typical finales for FiM at that point.
would you believe me if i said if one were to be redeemed it would be Chrysalis, like even to this day i feel Cozy Glow would never accept the kind of Friendship twilight believes in and instead believes of Friendship as Power... like honestly she is just too far GONE
@@Federation-Cosmo-Boltaccording to Jim miller the trio were never meant to reform and the scene in frenemies was intended to just mislead the audience
"Behold the power of...TACO BELL"
Everyone: TEMPESSSST
Me: AUTUMN BLAZE IN THA HOUSE
This is literally a pony version of endgame 🤣😂😂😂
Roma Taliona ASMR Infinity War AND Endgame respectively.
Roma Taliona ASMR Especially in the climax. You can tell everyone who made the finale are huge MCU fans.
Roma Taliona won’t ever be as good
Jimmy Killeen They can dream.
Tavionna Marshall Yeah.
Don't be sad it's over be happy it happened -Dr. Seuss
It’s really the end of an era everyone.
Star Script everything ends. But the funny thing about life is that even though everything eventually ends, nothing ever really _dies._ mlp will continue to inspire, entertain, and comfort people for years and years to come.
Yeah, I feel really sad.... I mean I know everything has to come to a end but.... Fuck! It came to quick. I will miss MLP and the fandom. By the way I never got the chance to go to a bronycon 😭
@@superheavyxd2684 - sad you never got to any of the pony conventions.. but why do you act like MLP is gone forever???
MLP is strong, so even with like G5 coming, fans of G4 and Older will continue with new things
@@irkenpony17 Yeah you are right! It just felt sad that G4 is over but you are right! We will continue! Thank you Iriken! I think I needed someone or should I say SOMEPONY!...... Anyway thank you Iriken!
Oh and I'll show myself out.....
SuperHeavyXD - Ok? xD
Everyone says Tirek controlled Discord's magic, but he only took it. I think he just stored it inside of him.
Btw, to the guy who keeps calling Tirek a Minotaur: Iron Will is a Minotaur, Tirek is a Centaur. The difference? Bipedalism
RPGQueen87 And the types of animals. Minotaurs being half human half bull and centaurs being half human half horse. Makes me wonder if humans once lived in ancient Equestria or magic mutated certain civilizations.
*YES THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT*
@@thirdplanet4471 personally if humans did live in Equestria that we were are a extremely ancient civilization that left their world behind or something, now that would be interesting finding old human relics that could put what the alicorns can do to shame would be epic
The fact that Clare Corlett acts THIS INSANE in this review only solidifies my theory that Sweetie Belle will end up as an evil overlord one day!
Uh oh
An evil overlord with an army robot clones
I love how Jax has Into the Spiderverse in the background
Glad someone noticed :0
Who can blame him?
So sad Solrac, PhilyPu, Orchestral Design, Living Tombstone and Nowacking couldn't join you.
It's thanks to them and all of you that I've stayed with the fandom for this long
So when I first saw Grogar to be revealed as Discord, my immediate thought was that he was actually trying to teach all of the pass villains to be friends the same way he was taught about friendship to prove to twilight that she really was a good ruler/leader.
I was actually pretty disappointed when that wasn't the case.
It seems like a waste of a good twist
Like remember the episode where they all work together to get the Bell? It was hinting at the three of them becoming friends but then it never went anywhere with that plotline.
Now imagine they find out discord was trying to force friendship on them for twilight's sake
It also doesn't make discord look as douchey
His motive would have been more justified. Instead of wanting to cause a conflict for Twilight to fix, he would have been proving to her that he learned that "friendship is magic"
I mean, that still might have been the case, he might have been hoping to soften them so Twilight could convert them in the actual confrontation, thus boosting her confidence even more. But that plan didn't seem to be working, so he was gonna go with plan B of just having them defeated and probably imprisoned once more by the time they betrayed him.
I mean, he was putting an awful lot of emphasis on teamwork, but from his perspective, it just wasn't sinking in.
I think a lot of people were theorizing and hoping the villains would side with Twilight at the finale to defeat Grogar, the bigger evil, and it would have been pretty cool that Discord, on his own would of gone behind their backs to teach friendship to other villains so they can feel what he did when he was given a second chance. Granted it took him 6 seasons, but he learned nevertheless. The plan just backfired on him. Would of been cool but oh well.
Least we have fanfics for that.
That would’ve been so much better. The villains could’ve befriended each other and the Bell would be the main contention point. Perhaps it contains Grogar’s spirit as well? By using it, they’d accidentally release Grogar, who would challenge Twilight at her coronation. The villains would be part of the team that defeats the real Grogar. Discord would prove that Twilight’s friendship really can solve almost all of their problems, and it would feel like a fitting end to the series.
Not to say I hate this finale, because I don’t. Just feels like it would’ve been more poetic and sensical if Discord had been trying to show the villains the power of friendship.
1:03:58 I'm so glad he pointed that out about windegos. That was my very same thought when I first saw them.
I was not expecting Mic’s impression of Tirek to be THAT good.
Okay, I haven’t been around for SEVERAL seasons. I just wanted to be here for the end. I watched like one other bronies react since.
And hold up.
SPIKE HAS WINGS?
Yea he hit puberty and got wings
OH NO
*_OHHH NOOOOO_*
*_I’M GENUINELY FRIGHTENED_*
Edit: ”Darla Dimples an alicorn now we’re screwed” THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
36:50
Tirek: *attacks with the ground*
Everyone: “HE’S AN EARTH BENDER!!”
I have a theory about Tirek. When he took Discords magic, he already already had the magic/essence of the earth ponies, pegasi, unicorns and then finally Cadence, Celestia and Luna. So Tirek had bulked up to a point where his body could handle the massive amount of magic. With him being as small as he was in these two episodes, he just just didn't have the girth to accommodate it. For Pinkie though ummm, it's Pinkie Pie, we don't question it.
THE
*G I R T H*
*59:34* "STONE THEM!! STONE THEM!! STONE THEM!!"
Oh, that context will certainly change soon. XD
Jaxblade getting hyped brings me joy.
My theory is that Cozy Glow is actually an adult pegasus who is just a miniature pegasus (like a little person), and just passed herself as a child.
So basically an adult with dwarfism?
So that’s it huh,
We just some kind of bronies react?
Does anyone realize that everything we though Flurry Heart is, Cozy Glow is all of it. Not only an alicorn, but a little demon
It ain't over.... most of us stopped watching the show at some point just to come back for the finale. The finale changes nothing, lol.
You gotta remember that other just as large fandoms like furries, sonic, and Star Trek have kept their fandoms nice and ridiculously active despite a lack of consistent official content/official content being garbage....
My point is: the ride is not over until fanart, fanfics, music, unofficial merchandise by fans, discussion, etc stops. Nobody has to feel weird about this.
Me personally, I'm probably not gonna stop talking about horses on /mlp/, reading Fimfiction stories, browsing derpibooru, listening to music, etc.... It's all a huge part of me life.
/) my dudes
knexfan100 dang dis looooonnng paragraph
@@ponygirl3.6mlp 4 paragraphs and a sentence fragment, yes.... but its whatever
knexfan100 haha lol can’t wait 4 da vid
Two words: Brown Coats
plus the creators have said a new generation could be coming iirc. we dont know if it will be quite as good, or if the brony community will join it or stick with remembering G4, but either way the series isnt over yet.
"Courageous and strong, and thin mints."
Oh my god.
I prefer Trefoils
Discord is the whole reason why season 9 exist in the first place
I think with the whole thing of 'no one can control chaos magic', there's a difference between taking the magic and controling it.
Let me try to explain...
When taking his magic back in the season 4 finale, I believe Tirek was more or less taking the energy, and converting it into his own magic. He couldnt actually use any spells or anything.
Like when he took the princesses magic, he didnt test the control of the sun and moon like most villians would. He just started destroying shit.
And I don't remember him using teleport either...
I guess another way of putting it would be like One for All from MHA.
Obviously past users had quirks but All Might and Deku only has the enhanced strength and speed, not necessarily past user's quirks.
(There's more I can say to explain, but i can't without spoiling shit from the manga so....)
Anyway, I think that's an explanation for that scene.
Oh! I also think there'd also be a difference between taking and giving the magic, maybe? I ont know, this is all just a theory really.
Oh my god, I wish Mic was in every Bronies React now, his sense of humor is amazing.
Anyone else catch that sigh sound effect as Celestia and Luna's combined magic attack got absorbed into the bell sounding rather...sexual? It also sounded like their necks broke the instant they both hit the ground afterward. Plus, as much as I find the "Big NO!" trope to be overused, Twilight sounded genuinely horrified. Props to Ms. Strong for that!
48:41 "Look Out! Hear Comes Tom!" - Twilight Sparkle
I love everyone's freaked out when Discord is revealed
I hope that there are reactions to other Season 9 episodes, because I can think of a FEW I'd love to see reactions to.
Same
The Last Crusade, Growing Up Is Hard To Do, and Between Dark and Dawn would be nice
@@NthDoctorWho Don't forget the Big Mac Question!
And angel speaks too..
39:28 epic moment, I didn't even realized it's ACRacebest. Good catch.
Cozy Glow: We're Villains, duh!
*Not a single person made a reference to Suicide squad or Billie eilish*
Disappointed
Or Lord Dominator or MandoPony
I am a bad guy...
Duh🤷♀️
Because nobody remembers Suicide Squad
Good point actually
@@NeteriXX it's remembered more than Justice League
Loved every1's reaction 2 Grogar being Discord.
There's one more finale episode!
The last problem
They might react to that in this vid
Nah he mentioned in the teaser that will be a separate video coming up shortly
@Shrugerz I just watched the video. my mistake
Tony takes the infinity stones from thanos.
pinkie pie take discords chaos magic.
The difference is that Pinkie doesn't die
chrysalis: enough! or the dragon's wings get plucked!
me: no, he just got those! you bastard!
24:42 so in theory, Discord can bring back anyone from the dead (like AJ’s parents….?)
littleshy is best thumbnail, with all 70 of his chins
1:03:01 everyone: INSTANT RAGE AT RAINBOW DASH
Their reactions to discord being Grogar pretty much matched my own
I think of tirek as draining magic like draining a battery. Whereas the bell takes their magical capabilities. Tirek couldn't use new magic he wasn't capable of using before he absorbed the magic of discord or the alicorns. The bell stole the magics properties. That's my head cannon.
*Sees Mic the Microphone and D. Notive* OMG THEY'RE BACK!!!!!
*Hears Mic being scared of kids* Talk about a 180 turn, he had no problem scaring foals in BDP's Nightmare Night's PMV lol.
"Tasty, tasty crossfires."
Why does that sound like something Homer Simpson would say? Lol!
Seriously, this show has so many parallels to The Simpsons that it's uncanny. All that's missing is an episode where Rainbow Dash mistakes Derpy for an alien. Lol!
14:29
Everyone in react: What?!
Me: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Also me: Hehehehehehehe
I’ll be like say wha?
Favorite part XD
14:27 Had to get the best reactions out of everyone lol. Everyones universal reaction was just "WHAT"
Mine was a good old “Wait what????”
Notice when twilight used the rock as shield it had purple sparkly thing all over and the villains couldnt break through, but at 50:03 the rock's purple sparkly thing is gone and starts to fall apart. I'd like to think that the rock was able to hold off tirek, cozy, and chrysalis' magic because twilight reinforced it with her magic.
According to series director Jim Miller, Discord impersonating Grogar was planned from the beginning of Season 9, as they wanted Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy Glow to be the main antagonists of the finale because they had more of a personal connection to the main characters. The defeat of the Mean 3 was also meant to be symmetrical to Discord's battle with Celestia and Luna and later his defeat in Season 2.
Why the hell no reactor ever CANNOT understand how Grogar's Bell works ?
Tirek's ability convertes magic into raw power. He can't use any special abilities that consisted of that magic. Grogar's bell however transmits the magic from one being to another, allowing the latter to use all magic abilities in the bell as if they were their own.
Pinkie: What are we gonna do twilight?
Littleshy: *gET twILIgHt*
1:09:08 they finally made the Pinkie and the Brian reference a season after introduction The pony voiced by Brians voice actor and well after the fandom
That "What do you want" part with Silver was priceless
Why does saberspark sound likes he's doing a review
That's just his normal voice.
Coz he's a natural douche lol
@@uber21 This is the right answer
Saberspark Notice me senpai.
How goes the R34 mister spark
1:07:20 god. damn. it. YOUR REFERNCES ARE ON. POINT. IN THIS AND THE PRIMARE
Low key just realized that this was probably technically the Halloween Bronies react lol 😂 😂 good thing jax turned in to Thor before it ended lol 😂 😂
Now we will never find out if the Flash Stone was real, or what it could have done.
Thanks a lot, Cozy! :(
Mlp : Endgame
I’m rewatching this 4 years later and I like that there continues to be a difference in the show between Tirek’s powers and Grogar’s bell.
Tirek seemingly takes a magical component used to create magic, using that to generate more magic within himself. Hence why cutiemarks disappear. The bell, on the other hand, takes all “refined” magic, including the reserves, rendering them flightless and powerless. Which is why no one can take Discord’s magic. His magical component is vast but ultimately limited. Eons of stored magic though? Much harder to use
Damn, you all broke when it was revealed Discord was Grogar. XD
Viva Reverie: Has this bit been going on too long?
Yeah.
Me: Has Bronies React been going on too long?
Everyone: No.
The show may be ending, but the fandom is only just beginning.
That's a lie
@@lilmisschrystyle3140 Well you're no fun.
EvAn Ze Geek VA Episode 24 = Infinity War
Episode 25 = Endgame
Episode 26 = Timeskip many years later
No it's not. The fandom has been around for years.
@@sandwichgod692 Dude, think about it. The fandom is now on it's own. The show is over and the fandom is now itself alone. That is what makes me say the fandom is only just beginning.
37:29 My immediate reaction was to say "delicioso" right after
I haven't seen Dora in years so wtf brain.
I honestly don’t blame you. That show had a special held nostalgia for me as a child. And honestly still holds up well. Believe it or not.😊
Even after all this time Bronies is still autocorrected to Brownies😂
Ah yes, Brownies React, I almost forgot about that alternate React series. They might as well have been Wallflowers React. . . 0_0'
(Think they'll do these too?)
Near the end, I was waiting for AC to go: "So...we're not going to forgive them...are we?"