Also, chrysalis couldn't still go boom boom, becauee they took the actual magic of the creature, meaning that she had EUP magic FUSED with her changeling magic
@@raven3067 Well they were telling truth when they told the villains that was no punishment fitting enough for their crimes, but as far as i'm concerned turning them to stone was just about the closest thing to a suitable punishment as it gets.
Maybe the comics might give us a proper Grogar, even if it's just his past reign(they could even show what happened to him, and implied death kind of works thanks to the nightmare knights story)
I hope the comics would do something for Luna too. Honestly felt disappointed with how the finale handled her. Like I wished there was more for her honestly.
“You really think we can beat the windagos just by singing some songs?” MLP “You really think you can make everything better just by singing some stupid song?” Spinel HMMMMMMM
I swear, the MLP crew watched the SU movie and were like “Guys we gotta put a bunch of references in this finale.” There were some other parts in the finale that was kinda similar to the movie. Also, this can fit with Chief Bogo when he was saying something similar about singing a song and making everything better to Judy.
She's been stupid ever since the Canterlot Wedding Fiasco ;this is why I prefer a King Sombra, he's a smartest villain that had backup plans to cover for his own downfalls!
Well, if they ever decide to appear kinda like Scootaloo's parents did and need to find her, at least they now know where she is. It's not like she's going anywhere anymore.
@@koradestiny Well, nobody was really watching over Scootaloo until her parents and aunt showed up out of nowhere in a span of a single episode. They were also not punished for their negligence.
@@koradestiny No need to be. I just think the writers wanted a child villain with no backstory whatsoever. Perhaps Cozy's origins are explained in the coming Season 10 comic, but I have my reservations.
Seriously, if all it takes are a couple of baseless rumors to start a racial conflict to this degree, then the racial tension between the ponies is a very intense issue that shouldn't be just brought up and dismissed in merely two episodes
@@nameynamd9212 That all started in the span of a couple of months in-world, that still feels rushed for the degree this is in. Racism isn't an conflict that can be addressed and resolved so easily
@@KelShu In the face of such a threat, I'm pretty sure grudges can be set aside temporarily(and the Last Problem is quite a few years after, considering Pound and Pumpkin are grown up by then)
@VelCrowd Ikr, they should've made this conflict be over-arching throughout 1 or multiple season(s) instead of having it be shoehorned in at the last minute; that way it wouldn't feel rushed and inorganic
You failed to sin that, despite Tirek draining ponies of all their magic, even to the point Rockhoof was reduced to the scrawny pony he was originally, they all still had their Cutie Marks even though those are supposed to vanish whenever Tirek drains a pony of their magic
I think tirek can control how much magic he can steal because in summer sun setback he also drained the magic of a few ponies but their cutie marks didn't disappear.
That's the same as saying,"Twilight read a lot of books. She read about levitation magic" so she should know how to fly! If reading something is all it takes to LEARN it then why the hell is the world in disasterous state right now?! What I'm saying is, there is now way Cozy knew how to use her magic because the books expect the user to be a unicorn, not a peagus turned alicorn. So it should only have instructions on how to cast the magic, expecting the user to know how to cast magic. TL:DR: Reading books shouldn't make you able to do the skill thus this argument makes no sense.
@@halfway7690 Like what if the boost Cozy Glow got from the bell ended up giving her knowledge on those spells and such. Basically like making it second-nature to her on using magic, like hard-wiring "instructions" on using that power into her instincts and such.
Kinda wish it went more like this: Grogar actually being a threat, not just a chaotic joke The bell not working on Grogar, instead makes him stronger The villains properly join forces with grogar, after they realize they can't beat him especially now. They succeed in taking down the mane 6. Grogar as the father of monsters destroys discord, *splits him into his separate component animals*, removes his powers, etc. Fluttershy goes 100% angry, proves moderately high threat to Grogar's team His team Proceed to draining magic from equestria completely into the bell. Grogar betrays his team, locks everyone up since no magic means no threat. The Student 6 prove useful, possibly reminding them all about the true power of friendship. The betrayed villains reform, chrysalis takes new form, etc. Mane 6 transform with friendship power. Epic fight ensues between the Mane 6 and Grogar. Grogar uses the bell to try to weaken them, but it either overloads the bell, OR it just doesn't work. Grogar get defeated, and goes the way of sombra. Possibly included somewhere the return of Sombra, but more powerful due to some residual shadow energy left after the Pillars of Friendship defeated that old pony of shadows. I mean COME ON, both had shadow connections.
Honrstly. Regarding the first scene. It is this easy to make people racist. And over the series equestrians are shown to be pretty racist regarding other speciest. There was an entire episode about them avoiding zecora just because she is a zebra.
So uh, where are She talks to Angel, Dragon Dropped, A horse shoe in, Daring Doubt, Growing up is hard to do, and The big Mac question everything wrong with's?
I actually hope they do everything wrong with's Daring Doubt first, because I found lot of people hate this episode like crazy; only a few people include me like this episode.
It just probably took so much time to add the "standard issue" version of Tempest to that scene that it ate up rest of the animation budget. Something had to be dropped so why not the Royal Guards altogether? Although it would have been a more redeemable thing to have the Unicorn guards appear to raise a temporary shield which the villains simply blast out and just as they go for the killing blow, mocking the Mane 6 for their weaknesses, the rest of the unicorns arrive and with the Royal Guard, they generate a more stable shield what we see in the episode. But that's just in my head.
@@KelShu Probably - but in the end, what would that really accomplish? All eyes are on Tempest and other more relevant unicorns. It would have probably gone unnoticed by many as the entire scene has many things happening at once. You're just more observant and noticed the lack of them. I didn't until you pointed that out.
Dude there's no point in questioning it or trying to understand it. The villains will always talk shit and explain their plans and weaknesses to the main protagonists because they always feel superior and hot shit then them.
CinemaSins: Couldn't they do something to cage them or stop the mane six from stomping all around them. Also CinemaSins: They not only captured a child but also subjected her to cruel and unusual torture by turning her into stone. Me: Dude, someone's gotta bring the hammer, if they didn't you'd just add more sins for the villans wasting time.
Your comment makes me wanna say how much I HATE equestria girls it’s so cringe and just- even though friendship is magic has some flaws I know for sure that equestria girls is what’s gonna have me killed it’s just my opinion so no hate x
Okay regardless of the hate for Equestria girls or not this does bring up a good point I mean why not call the other world versions of you along with sunset shimmer they could've helped and I'm pretty sure them being in the same world won't cause any problems expect maybe a wierd Wow there's two of me! Scenario but that's it
I guess this is why nothing ever happened with the villians. Grogar was Discord the whole time. I'm disappointed by this. 14:48 Huh, so we did get to see the Kirins again. 16:15 It's Pinkie Pie, don't question it.
I feel like if discord wasn't grogar, Grogar would be an actual treat and not just some joke. Grogr would end up mastering how to use the bell and betray the other Villians. someone or a group of people will make them reform and help fight against grpgar
Do the last episode! Also something I noticed the villains were hit with the exact same rainbow beam that is always giving the bad guys a change of heart so why did it not happen for these three???
The rainbow beam never gave the villains a change of heart. The only times it was used was for banishment. Luna's darkside, Discord the first time, the pony of Shadows, where stygian was trapped within it, and Sombra.
+1 sin for Discord. On the episode Ending of the End Part 1, Discord walks on his legs, but when on Part 2 when Pinkie gets the magic from the bell he literally flies up to Pinkie and take the bell. Bruh, he have wings and are not using it
7:21 - Speaking of borders... Anyone happened to notice that the Crystal Empire was never attacked by the villains? Cozy Glow attacked Canterlot head on, Tirek just ran over the Pillars and continued on to Canterlot and Chrysalis just decided to wrap up Starlight Glimmer after a quick duel. Also Crystal Empire was completely absent from the final battle.
Now I know what you guys are saying oh cozy glow deserves it. Unless it wasn't fair it's like the crime that starlight and discord did where nonexistent to them for some reason. When you punish somebody you want them to have the same rights as everybody else but the way they just straight-up treated her was just ridiculous. Starlight was like oh well I brainwash an entire village and try getting rid of cutie mark forever. Oops I messed with reality too and then she gets forgiven because she saw the "error" of her ways. What does she get in the very end oh you know she's now Twilight Apprentice and gets to live in the tree house consequence-free. Discord legit betrayed them twice already, the second part didn't even matter if he was trying to help Twilight he still brought all the villains together which again basically threaten all of Equestria.
Dictator of Robotica she tried to kill starlight, the main six, and the princess’ she also stole all of the magic in the world she deserves worse then just being a statue
Starlight could learn spell to destroy green cages cause they made of same material that changlings used to imprison ponies in sixth season and it would be useful to know how to free someone from that.
Actually I didn't know that Grogar was Discord the whole time I thought he was actually real with Discord knowing about their plans and just waiting & I wish they'd bring back the Alicorn Amulet as a MacGuffin as well. But have to admit that was a pretty awesome finale in a way that was actually Grand and the way that everyone from the entire show and movie came to the rescue of the Mane 6 is exactly how I wanted it to end! Of course imprison cozy glow as well as leaving King Sombra for dead along with constant betrayal still on Discord does leave the door open for certent characters in the future to capitalize on this with the one challenge that the Mane 6 has always struggled with that was held questionable after dealing with King Sombra, Cozy Glow, & Tirek: Morality!
Wait Discord can sense a magical imbalance as it was stated in the S4 Finale and that's how he found Tirek right? Shouldn't he have felt if Chrysalis,Tirek and Cozy Glow got the Magic from Grogar's Bell?
You know. I wish that Hasbro and the crew A much better ending for the season 9. Not the mention reforming Chrysalis, Cozy glow and tirek. It would be interesting to see them Changing their ways and sideing the good. And They would understand the true meaning of friendship.
The saddest thing about this episode (besides it being the end of the show) is that, The season 4, 6, and 8 finales (along with any piece of mlp fan fiction) feel more like a series finale than the actual one!
You also forgot the logic that the villains just stood there and not even attempt to attack twilight And the fact that cozy glow doesn't attempt to run away and just says "this is bad"
bro pinky taking the magic from the bell explains pinky sense throughout the entire show lmfao. it’s like it went into different timelines and made her weird
Is he not mention that Chrysalis won't be affected by the shards since she's a changeling and the fact that when Discord called Tirek a cretin, it means mentally disabled
Also, marshmallows have gelatin in them. Which is made of animals like cows, pigs, and it’s often at least rumored to be made of horses. Cows are sentient in MLP.
I know this is my second comment but I had to make a separate one for this. I am never, *never* going to be able to look at Celestia the same way again knowing she shares the same English VA as Lust from Fullmetal Alchemist.
This finale was extremely sloppy Actually the whole season was, a lot of time was wasted on things that really didn't need to be shown and it just felt like they wasted a lot of time. I felt nothing by the end of The Last Problem, which is the most damning thing I can say about a finale to a show I've followed nearly a decade for.
You forgot one sin: at 15:35 Ocellus is missing. Also, you forgot to mention that Starlight could've just teleported away after her battle with Chrysalis.
You left out a sin, Ocellus has suddenly vanished when the Young 6 were being lifted up into the air and reached with Twilight, her friends, and the Pillars. Look at the clip on 15:36
LOL glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. It's like satire that writes itself. It's my belief that an animator deliberately did that to make fun of how underutilized those characters were
11:59 Then again, this is starlight, this pony has a magic spell to take away ponies cutie marks, let non-Pegasus stand on clouds, let herself fly with magic, swap cutie marks, be able to keeps *DISCORDS* body out (tho not his soul but I mean, It’s the lord of chaos so-) of the school- Plus it was showed seconds before from the looks of it, simple magic that can slash most things can break the goo, so chances are, Starlight just needed to use a spell that needed more energy
This doesn't make any sense, why would the writers decide to choose "Grogar was Discord in disguise the whole time"? That's just lazy and makes the entire season 9 a pointless waste of time. No lesson learned; nothing was accomplished or changed (except for Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Chrysalis being turned to stone). They turned Discord into stone twice, so why not a demonic centaur, Changeling queen, and a filly?) Yeah--great way to end My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Totally not a cop-out at all.
Exactly. It'd be like defending a guy for commiting murder, all because "he's so hot" or "he's too handsome to be in jail", like people using his handsome looks as an excuse for not punishing him for his crimes
😭 yes. 😄😁But theres a new mlp gen5 coming out in 2020 or 2021. You'll have to check which year, but I can't wait. 😭😭Still sad MLP: Friendship is Magic is over. Then again, I think a comic version of S10 is coming out. Wish it was animated but...alas.
my biggest issue is that starswirl took out tierek alone, the very first time they met, with only a heads up from his brother. but now he has friends, he's too weak to beat him?
People always question how it's easy for characters who suddenly receive elite-teir amounts of power to unleash devastating attacks with said power when at the same time, they can't even open a door. To that I say that it's easier to unleash and destroy than it is to contain and control.
Fandom: She doesn't have as much life experience. We have to pretend she didn't just commit high treason and try to end the world. She so innocent don't punish her. Me: you're still keeping her alive where she could potentially escape like discord did....
Nice to know that you should never be a police officer. The difference is that Cozy isn't much of a threat without allies and magic. Oh and by your logic discord should be killed considering he has done much worse even while redeemed.
I think the fandom's main gripe with cozy glow's fate is that it's unnecessarily cruel to the point where burning her at the stake would be more humane because at least she would get the sweet release of death
No diamond dogs and blueblood never showed up in season 9 (his he still alive?) I was hoping the show would redeem blueblood, also so glad that tempest showed up in the series finale
I honestly hated the last part of the finale. Everything else was great until the villains defeat. First off, the rainbow was to basic, the dazzlings defeat was much more interesting to watch than their defeat. Second I hate it when they turned the villains into stone. Sure they did crimes, but I wanna hear cozy glows and chrysalis origin. And I hate the new twillight and now that everyone is older. And I may upset you guys, but I honestly hate discord. He is sneaky and put the lives of others in danger because he shapeshifted as grogar. And he is very overpowered. This is just my opinion of it so please don't attack me
@@FreshZCORD, excuses, excuses. Have you never heard of the idiom: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"? So "good intentions" are no justification. What is the message of this? That if you did something wrong out of good intentions, you will be forgiven everything?
17:03 I am pretty sure Twilights knows the turning people into stone spell (she used it all the way back in the start of season 2 and looked it up again in season 8, the elements only increased her power not her knowledge).
My only problem with that episode is that they made Twilight almost useless while Starlight at least could put a decent fight before being temporarily defeated.
This ending was just sad. Discord was the reason everything bad happened again. They had to relearn the very first lesson of the show and they forgot how to actually fight like in season 4. I'm sad to see mlp go on a note like this. But it wasn't unexpected.
@Michael Laiosa Jr It was so good they have now retconned the ending just to force more problems that were never there as they normally do. I used to love MLP but the show just doesn't know what it wants. that is just a fact.
@Michael Laiosa Jr Hey if you enjoyed the finale that's great, I'm happy for you. But for me I just have a hard time enjoying it because I felt like the whole thing was rushed and fell flat thanks to Discord. And you are right that is my opinion as I never liked Discord as one of their friends in the first place.
Yeah Limbo would work. Anyone who tries to get it will get themselves stuck there. I would say toss it in Discord's dimension but I still don't trust him enough to guard something so powerful.
13:44 It seemed like they tried to fit in all the references they wanted to make but hadn't yet from the top of my head just with verbal references we had: "Fly my pretties" from Wizard of Oz; "Fly you fool" from Lord of the rings; "The same thing we do every time Pinkie" from Pinkie and the brain and "Chocolate Rain" from Chocolate Rain. Then you have a visual reference to LOTR The Two Towers with reinforcement being led over the crest of a hill by a powerful white wizard. Then the Donut scene after the day is saved is reminiscent of the shawarma scene from The Avengers
Personally I got major Avengers vibes from the finally. The donut scene in the end credit heroes eating swarma, then the barrier scene before that was totally Endgame with literally EVERYONE showing up to help fight. My only Q is that will b the random thing that breaks their stone prison? It took discord to break out Discord, so in 1000 yrs, when it’s only Twilight and maybe Spike, will it be power greed ? Or vengeance? Hatred? Maybe don’t have school groups go right by it.
0:28 - I think you meant "... the *WHOLE* forming of Equestria story." 6:20 - OMG, is that Cozy Glow's true form???? I was wondering how a little filly seemed to have so much free rein to do the things she's been doing and not have a parent or guardian or anyone else trying to rein her in! (Yes, I know, that's two "reins" in one sentence... ) 6:33 - Carnivorous pineapples? "I'm going to EAT you!" "Not if I eat you FIRST!" 8:46 - So she wraps her up in... a chrysalis? Is this where she gets her name? 10:25 - Why not just wish them away to the cornfield? 14:46 - Even that unpleasent headmaster from the other school is there! I guess nothing makes friends like mutual enemies!
I hate to be that person and I love mlp but the last season didn't feel right. Cause as the show progressed you'd think Twilight would learn to truly be the embodiment of friendship but she constantly waves back and fourth to being a horrible person throughout the show, specifically that trivia episode, so her ending didn't feel all that well deserved yet
sometimes the villians could think better of their revenge plans on the mane six, maybe all of the mane six could have been turned evil by the magic of grogar, and applejack will have to save them all.
Yeah I did like Tempest’s cameo but of course she wasn’t able to make a voice appearance because they can’t afford Emily Blunt for the show. That also goes for the other movie characters especially Zoe Saldana. I did like the movie because you discover that there’s so many other creatures.
Letsa go! Hope you enjoy
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Is there an audio error, or did my phone just glitch?
@@oliversievanen8554 it's an error
Are you going to do the very last episode too?
This was sad i hope the new generation meets expectations
Discord was actually clever enough to realize being "reformed" means you can get away with near everything without getting stoned.
I mean with this show that's a solid truth!
I mean your not wrong
He is reformed so i don't know why yur using quotations if he wasn't he wouldn't try to help a friend like he was in this finale
Yup you are right
What about starlight? She was a really dangerous villain with a weak backstory
Queen Chrysalis: "Careful! To close and the magic even cancels our powers."
Cosy literally had her face right in front of the cell a moment ago.
And Chrysalis had her face right in front of the crystals literally a second before she stated that. XD
Chrysalis Said friendship is magic is like disease
yeah thats probably why she said it
@@EurynomeEclipse13 one question what is tempest shadow doing there in the show it kinda shocked me a little bit!😮😱
Also, chrysalis couldn't still go boom boom, becauee they took the actual magic of the creature, meaning that she had EUP magic FUSED with her changeling magic
Spoilers
I love how they dont even hesitate to turn the villains in stone, redemption wasn't even an option
Lol
I agree, redemption certainly wasn't an option, not for the crimes they've committed.
@@TheCommenterDragon Celestia and Luna was not playing games.
@@raven3067 Well they were telling truth when they told the villains that was no punishment fitting enough for their crimes, but as far as i'm concerned turning them to stone was just about the closest thing to a suitable punishment as it gets.
@@TheCommenterDragon they litterlu only did that because discord set them free and he didnt even got punished
I'm not mad the Grogar was Discord the whole time....
just very very very disappointed.
Maybe the comics might give us a proper Grogar, even if it's just his past reign(they could even show what happened to him, and implied death kind of works thanks to the nightmare knights story)
geardog24 Yeah they wasted a popular G1 villain people wanted to see all for “subverting our expectations” with a dumb twist.
I hope the comics would do something for Luna too.
Honestly felt disappointed with how the finale handled her.
Like I wished there was more for her honestly.
@@ryancarson6962 "Grogar" wasn't even a good villain.
Facts
“You really think we can beat the windagos just by singing some songs?” MLP
“You really think you can make everything better just by singing some stupid song?” Spinel
HMMMMMMM
Oh please god help me
JUST CAN IT WONT YA?!?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm huehue
Yas.... XD
I swear, the MLP crew watched the SU movie and were like “Guys we gotta put a bunch of references in this finale.” There were some other parts in the finale that was kinda similar to the movie.
Also, this can fit with Chief Bogo when he was saying something similar about singing a song and making everything better to Judy.
"Is Chrysalis just stupid?"
...
After everything we've seen and how she has never seemed to think long term, I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question
She could just not hesitate just do it instead of talking
Yes.
She's been stupid ever since the Canterlot Wedding Fiasco ;this is why I prefer a King Sombra, he's a smartest villain that had backup plans to cover for his own downfalls!
She is a little girl show villain. Of coarse she is stupid.
Doesn't help that her mental health state doesn't look much good either.
Again the question is where is cozys parents or whoever is meant to look after her I mean these two villains have spent more time looking after her
Well, if they ever decide to appear kinda like Scootaloo's parents did and need to find her, at least they now know where she is. It's not like she's going anywhere anymore.
@@JJiMedia yea but they should also be punshied for not watching her
@@koradestiny Well, nobody was really watching over Scootaloo until her parents and aunt showed up out of nowhere in a span of a single episode. They were also not punished for their negligence.
@@JJiMedia I guess your right but I'm still confused
@@koradestiny No need to be. I just think the writers wanted a child villain with no backstory whatsoever. Perhaps Cozy's origins are explained in the coming Season 10 comic, but I have my reservations.
and in the extra episode they show how everyone gets old exept twilight so eventually she'll have to deal with her friends death :)
Then the council of friendship shall come to a end
Dude that is so sad
@@alexjd1278 well duh, thats why this whole thing sucks
@@L--M yeahhhhgh😢😭😭😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭
I’m so happy no more magic cancer
Seriously, if all it takes are a couple of baseless rumors to start a racial conflict to this degree, then the racial tension between the ponies is a very intense issue that shouldn't be just brought up and dismissed in merely two episodes
If they started doing this after the previous villain episode(especially in the biggest cities)
@@nameynamd9212 That all started in the span of a couple of months in-world, that still feels rushed for the degree this is in. Racism isn't an conflict that can be addressed and resolved so easily
@@KelShu In the face of such a threat, I'm pretty sure grudges can be set aside temporarily(and the Last Problem is quite a few years after, considering Pound and Pumpkin are grown up by then)
@@nameynamd9212 Well hopefully the racism is being continuously worked on between the time-skip and not just portrayed as an easily resolved issue
@VelCrowd Ikr, they should've made this conflict be over-arching throughout 1 or multiple season(s) instead of having it be shoehorned in at the last minute; that way it wouldn't feel rushed and inorganic
Does this kid have parents or is she just an angry orphan?
Ivy Girl hmm, maybe her parents died or left her for being literally insane
She's an orphan left to fend for herself then punished for turning evil. Great moral, writers!
Orphan because she killed her own family lol jk
@@Zorro9129 yeah😒
@@jaz5427 That theory makes sense! I think you're on to something.
You failed to sin that, despite Tirek draining ponies of all their magic, even to the point Rockhoof was reduced to the scrawny pony he was originally, they all still had their Cutie Marks even though those are supposed to vanish whenever Tirek drains a pony of their magic
Good point!
I think tirek can control how much magic he can steal because in summer sun setback he also drained the magic of a few ponies but their cutie marks didn't disappear.
@@ncity515 But why would he leave even an ounce of magic to ponies?
continuity issue
Cozy glow read a lot of spell books when she was in school. That's how she knows how to use magic.
That's the same as saying,"Twilight read a lot of books. She read about levitation magic" so she should know how to fly! If reading something is all it takes to LEARN it then why the hell is the world in disasterous state right now?! What I'm saying is, there is now way Cozy knew how to use her magic because the books expect the user to be a unicorn, not a peagus turned alicorn. So it should only have instructions on how to cast the magic, expecting the user to know how to cast magic.
TL:DR: Reading books shouldn't make you able to do the skill thus this argument makes no sense.
@@halfway7690 I guess the boost from Grogar's bell gave her knowledge on certain spells too maybe.
@@nightshroud9671 *Confused* Elaborate please.
@@halfway7690 Like what if the boost Cozy Glow got from the bell ended up giving her knowledge on those spells and such. Basically like making it second-nature to her on using magic, like hard-wiring "instructions" on using that power into her instincts and such.
Huh that would Explain a lot
Kinda wish it went more like this:
Grogar actually being a threat, not just a chaotic joke
The bell not working on Grogar, instead makes him stronger
The villains properly join forces with grogar, after they realize they can't beat him especially now.
They succeed in taking down the mane 6.
Grogar as the father of monsters destroys discord, *splits him into his separate component animals*, removes his powers, etc.
Fluttershy goes 100% angry, proves moderately high threat to Grogar's team
His team Proceed to draining magic from equestria completely into the bell.
Grogar betrays his team, locks everyone up since no magic means no threat.
The Student 6 prove useful, possibly reminding them all about the true power of friendship.
The betrayed villains reform, chrysalis takes new form, etc.
Mane 6 transform with friendship power.
Epic fight ensues between the Mane 6 and Grogar.
Grogar uses the bell to try to weaken them, but it either overloads the bell, OR it just doesn't work.
Grogar get defeated, and goes the way of sombra.
Possibly included somewhere the return of Sombra, but more powerful due to some residual shadow energy left after the Pillars of Friendship defeated that old pony of shadows. I mean COME ON, both had shadow connections.
I wished there was something for Luna too.
And Spike too.
And I kind of wish that they would have brought back the Storm King.
that would've been much better.
I Will skip the reformed chrysalis part. The rest is nice
Except discord is grogar
Your entire story goes crashing down then and there boom done bye
6:15
Ok, who dug into someone's DeviantArt?!
Honrstly. Regarding the first scene. It is this easy to make people racist. And over the series equestrians are shown to be pretty racist regarding other speciest. There was an entire episode about them avoiding zecora just because she is a zebra.
And neighsay and his horrid racist speech
So uh, where are She talks to Angel, Dragon Dropped, A horse shoe in, Daring Doubt, Growing up is hard to do, and The big Mac question everything wrong with's?
I completely forgot about those, but yea?🧐
Right? I'm still waiting. I hope he does those. I keep checking everyday to make sure I didnt miss them. The reviews are hilarious and really true.
I actually hope they do everything wrong with's Daring Doubt first, because I found lot of people hate this episode like crazy; only a few people include me like this episode.
Everything's wrong with them, so there's no point.
I didn't read the whole comment so I thought you were going to say they are filler episodes 😂
They really are though...
14:45
And still not a single Royal Guard in sight, they couldn't even bother to add them in this moment
It just probably took so much time to add the "standard issue" version of Tempest to that scene that it ate up rest of the animation budget. Something had to be dropped so why not the Royal Guards altogether? Although it would have been a more redeemable thing to have the Unicorn guards appear to raise a temporary shield which the villains simply blast out and just as they go for the killing blow, mocking the Mane 6 for their weaknesses, the rest of the unicorns arrive and with the Royal Guard, they generate a more stable shield what we see in the episode. But that's just in my head.
@@JJiMedia I'm certain they could've afford to add at least one guard in the background
@@KelShu Probably - but in the end, what would that really accomplish? All eyes are on Tempest and other more relevant unicorns. It would have probably gone unnoticed by many as the entire scene has many things happening at once. You're just more observant and noticed the lack of them. I didn't until you pointed that out.
Same can be said for the Royal Sisters, didn't bother showing what happens to them post-timeskip in The Last Problem.
Starlight was the best part of this two parter.
Facts
She was pretty badass, but my favourite part has to be the villains. In fact they stole the whole the show in this season for me.
Ya
Wanna join my religion? Starlism. We praise Starlight Glimmer, we have 9 members.
Definitely.
I respect you 10× more than I already did for that chocolate rain reference
Dude there's no point in questioning it or trying to understand it. The villains will always talk shit and explain their plans and weaknesses to the main protagonists because they always feel superior and hot shit then them.
Joker is better villain than these 3
@@EurynomeEclipse13 True.
A lot of shows from the early 2010's just ended in 2 years.
This will always be in my heart.
CinemaSins: Couldn't they do something to cage them or stop the mane six from stomping all around them.
Also CinemaSins: They not only captured a child but also subjected her to cruel and unusual torture by turning her into stone.
Me: Dude, someone's gotta bring the hammer, if they didn't you'd just add more sins for the villans wasting time.
They had tempest, but where was sunset shimmer
In the human world
Your comment makes me wanna say how much I HATE equestria girls it’s so cringe and just- even though friendship is magic has some flaws I know for sure that equestria girls is what’s gonna have me killed it’s just my opinion so no hate x
I don't like how tempest looks in fim I prefer how she looks in the film
Joyce Ndongala I kinda agree, I liked The first 3 movies but that’s it. I feel like Hasbro got lazy cause the rest of EG was rlly cringy.
Okay regardless of the hate for Equestria girls or not this does bring up a good point I mean why not call the other world versions of you along with sunset shimmer they could've helped and I'm pretty sure them being in the same world won't cause any problems expect maybe a wierd Wow there's two of me! Scenario but that's it
Can’t wait for a review of the last problem, that’ll be a hell of a doozie.
If there'a an everything wrong with The Big Mac Question, then we get the biggest shipping out of the way
I guess this is why nothing ever happened with the villians. Grogar was Discord the whole time. I'm disappointed by this.
14:48
Huh, so we did get to see the Kirins again.
16:15
It's Pinkie Pie, don't question it.
I feel like if discord wasn't grogar, Grogar would be an actual treat and not just some joke. Grogr would end up mastering how to use the bell and betray the other Villians. someone or a group of people will make them reform and help fight against grpgar
That wasnt the real Grogar. Discord just impersonated him. The real Grogar is still imprisoned in the stars.
me: *hopes he brings up Appledash because Rarijack should’ve been endgame*
What?
right!
Stop. Just stop.
Rarijack isn't better than appledash.
Rarijack would've honestly made more sense. But once again, Appledash still isn't officially canon unless on of the staff prove it.
Do the last episode!
Also something I noticed the villains were hit with the exact same rainbow beam that is always giving the bad guys a change of heart so why did it not happen for these three???
It took a while for Discord, so maybe it will for them too.
The rainbow beam never gave the villains a change of heart. The only times it was used was for banishment. Luna's darkside, Discord the first time, the pony of Shadows, where stygian was trapped within it, and Sombra.
I cant believe discord was behind all along
IKR I WAS LIKE WHAT. THE. F***
+1 sin for Discord. On the episode Ending of the End Part 1, Discord walks on his legs, but when on Part 2 when Pinkie gets the magic from the bell he literally flies up to Pinkie and take the bell.
Bruh, he have wings and are not using it
I think the BIGGEST flaw about this finale is that discord was grogar the whole time. That is a BIG slap in the face >:(
7:21 - Speaking of borders... Anyone happened to notice that the Crystal Empire was never attacked by the villains? Cozy Glow attacked Canterlot head on, Tirek just ran over the Pillars and continued on to Canterlot and Chrysalis just decided to wrap up Starlight Glimmer after a quick duel. Also Crystal Empire was completely absent from the final battle.
Now I know what you guys are saying oh cozy glow deserves it. Unless it wasn't fair it's like the crime that starlight and discord did where nonexistent to them for some reason. When you punish somebody you want them to have the same rights as everybody else but the way they just straight-up treated her was just ridiculous.
Starlight was like oh well I brainwash an entire village and try getting rid of cutie mark forever. Oops I messed with reality too and then she gets forgiven because she saw the "error" of her ways. What does she get in the very end oh you know she's now Twilight Apprentice and gets to live in the tree house consequence-free.
Discord legit betrayed them twice already, the second part didn't even matter if he was trying to help Twilight he still brought all the villains together which again basically threaten all of Equestria.
Just because she’s a child doesn’t mean that cozy glow shouldn’t be punished for her actions if a child kills people that child will go to prison
Dictator of Robotica she tried to kill starlight, the main six, and the princess’ she also stole all of the magic in the world she deserves worse then just being a statue
Dictator of Robotica I agree that she shouldn’t have been sent to hell the first time but she definitely deserved it the second time
If anything Starlight should be the one frozen in to a statue.
Ssj3sonic12 why
@@nicholasjohnston1970 do I seriously need to answer that question? You should know why
7:00 out of anypony who has the audacity to kill princess twilight sparkle, its a 7 year old child, how embarrassing.
Starlight could learn spell to destroy green cages cause they made of same material that changlings used to imprison ponies in sixth season and it would be useful to know how to free someone from that.
I did like Tempest’s cameo but of course she can’t make a voice appearance because they can’t afford Emily Blunt for the show.
It was a thousand good guys vs only 3 outnumbered villains, that’s just not a fair fight
Actually I didn't know that Grogar was Discord the whole time I thought he was actually real with Discord knowing about their plans and just waiting & I wish they'd bring back the Alicorn Amulet as a MacGuffin as well.
But have to admit that was a pretty awesome finale in a way that was actually Grand and the way that everyone from the entire show and movie came to the rescue of the Mane 6 is exactly how I wanted it to end! Of course imprison cozy glow as well as leaving King Sombra for dead along with constant betrayal still on Discord does leave the door open for certent characters in the future to capitalize on this with the one challenge that the Mane 6 has always struggled with that was held questionable after dealing with King Sombra, Cozy Glow, & Tirek: Morality!
I wished you could have counted that Discord mentioned Tirek's father King Vorax as a sin because it shows that comics may be canon.
How didn't discord hear Cozy glow, Tirek and Chrysalis? We've seen him appear out of nowhere when the mane six mention him
Wait Discord can sense a magical imbalance as it was stated in the S4 Finale and that's how he found Tirek right?
Shouldn't he have felt if Chrysalis,Tirek and Cozy Glow got the Magic from Grogar's Bell?
The fight scene in this are epic wish they defeated them instead of using friendship laser
You know. I wish that Hasbro and the crew A much better ending for the season 9. Not the mention reforming Chrysalis, Cozy glow and tirek. It would be interesting to see them Changing their ways and sideing the good. And They would understand the true meaning of friendship.
The saddest thing about this episode (besides it being the end of the show) is that, The season 4, 6, and 8 finales (along with any piece of mlp fan fiction) feel more like a series finale than the actual one!
14:07 you gave forgotten that Cozy Glow recognise a distraction (revealed in Season 8 finale), except for a Mane Six distraction.
Is one going to point out cozy glow is literally in mid air while in stone
You also forgot the logic that the villains just stood there and not even attempt to attack twilight
And the fact that cozy glow doesn't attempt to run away and just says "this is bad"
moliminous: how is pinkie using the bell without magic
me: its pinkie
"All I know is whatever comes next is going to be perfect"
*G5, taking place in the ruined future of G4:* I'm about to end this alicorn's whole legacy
I believe twilight already knows the petrification spell from when Rockhoof wanted to get turned into stone in S8
bro pinky taking the magic from the bell explains pinky sense throughout the entire show lmfao. it’s like it went into different timelines and made her weird
Is he not mention that Chrysalis won't be affected by the shards since she's a changeling and the fact that when Discord called Tirek a cretin, it means mentally disabled
Also, marshmallows have gelatin in them. Which is made of animals like cows, pigs, and it’s often at least rumored to be made of horses. Cows are sentient in MLP.
It would’ve been cool to see Queen Novo, Princess Skystar, and Captain Celaeno to make cameos
I know this is my second comment but I had to make a separate one for this. I am never, *never* going to be able to look at Celestia the same way again knowing she shares the same English VA as Lust from Fullmetal Alchemist.
This finale was extremely sloppy
Actually the whole season was, a lot of time was wasted on things that really didn't need to be shown and it just felt like they wasted a lot of time. I felt nothing by the end of The Last Problem, which is the most damning thing I can say about a finale to a show I've followed nearly a decade for.
I can't believe that its over. 9 years in the making to this moment!
Just a question,Tirek does not need to control Discord’s magic,Tirek consumes it and he has taken it before.Why didnt he do it again?
You forgot one sin: at 15:35 Ocellus is missing.
Also, you forgot to mention that Starlight could've just teleported away after her battle with Chrysalis.
I hate the way they ended it with twilight looking like Celestia instead of being creative
We can all agree that pinkie pie is a different breed of pony in the episode school raze pinkie was given magic she is just weird
You left out a sin, Ocellus has suddenly vanished when the Young 6 were being lifted up into the air and reached with Twilight, her friends, and the Pillars. Look at the clip on 15:36
LOL glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. It's like satire that writes itself. It's my belief that an animator deliberately did that to make fun of how underutilized those characters were
11:59 Then again, this is starlight, this pony has a magic spell to take away ponies cutie marks, let non-Pegasus stand on clouds, let herself fly with magic, swap cutie marks, be able to keeps *DISCORDS* body out (tho not his soul but I mean, It’s the lord of chaos so-) of the school- Plus it was showed seconds before from the looks of it, simple magic that can slash most things can break the goo, so chances are, Starlight just needed to use a spell that needed more energy
This doesn't make any sense, why would the writers decide to choose "Grogar was Discord in disguise the whole time"? That's just lazy and makes the entire season 9 a pointless waste of time. No lesson learned; nothing was accomplished or changed (except for Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Chrysalis being turned to stone). They turned Discord into stone twice, so why not a demonic centaur, Changeling queen, and a filly?)
Yeah--great way to end My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Totally not a cop-out at all.
15:35
Ocelus just disapear... poor ocelus .. they forgot her...
Seriously, why is everyone using Cozy Glow's age as an excuse for why she apparently shouldn't be punished for her actions!?
It's not just about that
Exactly. It'd be like defending a guy for commiting murder, all because "he's so hot" or "he's too handsome to be in jail", like people using his handsome looks as an excuse for not punishing him for his crimes
i haven’t watched this show in a long time but i still love watching these videos. I didn’t know spike could fly. Mlp is over now huh?
😭 yes. 😄😁But theres a new mlp gen5 coming out in 2020 or 2021. You'll have to check which year, but I can't wait. 😭😭Still sad MLP: Friendship is Magic is over. Then again, I think a comic version of S10 is coming out. Wish it was animated but...alas.
@@anyamiller9014 If you keep up with the comics, season 10 will happen then
@@nameynamd9212
That's good. Though I didn't know there were comics. I only watched the show. But a S10 would be great.
Yahoo! Friendship is magic is no more
It's a shame that the show decayed so painfully. After season 4 the writing got worse and worse.
my biggest issue is that starswirl took out tierek alone, the very first time they met, with only a heads up from his brother. but now he has friends, he's too weak to beat him?
"What a great plan, just charge at the magic eating centar with magically infused-CHIPOTLE (ad lol)
People always question how it's easy for characters who suddenly receive elite-teir amounts of power to unleash devastating attacks with said power when at the same time, they can't even open a door. To that I say that it's easier to unleash and destroy than it is to contain and control.
Fandom: She doesn't have as much life experience. We have to pretend she didn't just commit high treason and try to end the world. She so innocent don't punish her.
Me: you're still keeping her alive where she could potentially escape like discord did....
Nice to know that you should never be a police officer. The difference is that Cozy isn't much of a threat without allies and magic. Oh and by your logic discord should be killed considering he has done much worse even while redeemed.
I think the fandom's main gripe with cozy glow's fate is that it's unnecessarily cruel to the point where burning her at the stake would be more humane because at least she would get the sweet release of death
Ok so sin 69 shouldn’t count. “A how does pinkie do x” sin isn’t a sin, she is Pinkie, there needs no explanation
No diamond dogs and blueblood never showed up in season 9 (his he still alive?) I was hoping the show would redeem blueblood, also so glad that tempest showed up in the series finale
Dont worry we have season 10 comics coming out
Where was sunset shimmer
@@sosomadman good question
Sunset was in ep 26
I bet Blueblood was likely cowering somewhere.
Wait, G5 has different planets? Where was this said? What the hell did I miss?
Not even sure if that's confirmed.
It was only a leak of sorts(and it's more akin to norse mythology and yggdrasil)
I honestly hated the last part of the finale. Everything else was great until the villains defeat. First off, the rainbow was to basic, the dazzlings defeat was much more interesting to watch than their defeat. Second I hate it when they turned the villains into stone. Sure they did crimes, but I wanna hear cozy glows and chrysalis origin. And I hate the new twillight and now that everyone is older. And I may upset you guys, but I honestly hate discord. He is sneaky and put the lives of others in danger because he shapeshifted as grogar. And he is very overpowered. This is just my opinion of it so please don't attack me
Discord just doesn't think things through but he meant well
@@FreshZCORD, excuses, excuses. Have you never heard of the idiom: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"? So "good intentions" are no justification. What is the message of this? That if you did something wrong out of good intentions, you will be forgiven everything?
17:03 I am pretty sure Twilights knows the turning people into stone spell (she used it all the way back in the start of season 2 and looked it up again in season 8, the elements only increased her power not her knowledge).
My only problem with that episode is that they made Twilight almost useless while Starlight at least could put a decent fight before being temporarily defeated.
One sin I made - princess Celestia's hair is waving without air
Wdym, theres air everywhere. Celestia's hair waves because of the alicorn magic.
This ending was just sad. Discord was the reason everything bad happened again. They had to relearn the very first lesson of the show and they forgot how to actually fight like in season 4. I'm sad to see mlp go on a note like this. But it wasn't unexpected.
@Michael Laiosa Jr I meant sad as in lame/bad.
@Michael Laiosa Jr It was so good they have now retconned the ending just to force more problems that were never there as they normally do. I used to love MLP but the show just doesn't know what it wants. that is just a fact.
@Michael Laiosa Jr Doesn't that go both ways?
@Michael Laiosa Jr So you want me to respect your opinion after you said "screw you" for having my own opinion? Double standards much.
@Michael Laiosa Jr Hey if you enjoyed the finale that's great, I'm happy for you. But for me I just have a hard time enjoying it because I felt like the whole thing was rushed and fell flat thanks to Discord. And you are right that is my opinion as I never liked Discord as one of their friends in the first place.
Celestia says in S4 tired episode she says "without earth pony magic they won't be able to tend the land."
I wonder what they'll do with Grogar's Bell. I'd lock that shit up somewhere far away.
Lock it in a safe, on the moon.
It was like that before, and that didn't stop it(maybe throw it in limbo)
Yeah Limbo would work. Anyone who tries to get it will get themselves stuck there. I would say toss it in Discord's dimension but I still don't trust him enough to guard something so powerful.
Inb4 sending it to Limbo causes the Pony of Shadows to get it and somehow allows him to escape.
@@nightshroud9671 But it's not bound to anything, so I don't see how it could use it, especially when it's not familiar with the spell at all
13:44 It seemed like they tried to fit in all the references they wanted to make but hadn't yet from the top of my head just with verbal references we had: "Fly my pretties" from Wizard of Oz; "Fly you fool" from Lord of the rings; "The same thing we do every time Pinkie" from Pinkie and the brain and "Chocolate Rain" from Chocolate Rain.
Then you have a visual reference to LOTR The Two Towers with reinforcement being led over the crest of a hill by a powerful white wizard.
Then the Donut scene after the day is saved is reminiscent of the shawarma scene from The Avengers
0:49 somebody missed the Hearth's Warming and what Celestia said about the races, oops
I mean, it's actual history, I don't get why there would even be a possibility of it being a lie
16:12 The answer is simple: She's literally *Pinkie Pie*
Let’s just talk about how Lara and Bon Bone left each other for the racism... when they’re literally married
Oof. Is hate stronger than love?
Personally I got major Avengers vibes from the finally. The donut scene in the end credit heroes eating swarma, then the barrier scene before that was totally Endgame with literally EVERYONE showing up to help fight. My only Q is that will b the random thing that breaks their stone prison? It took discord to break out Discord, so in 1000 yrs, when it’s only Twilight and maybe Spike, will it be power greed ? Or vengeance? Hatred? Maybe don’t have school groups go right by it.
Sadly the Royal Sisters were left out of the final battle pretty much due to getting captured(AGAIN)
0:28 - I think you meant "... the *WHOLE* forming of Equestria story."
6:20 - OMG, is that Cozy Glow's true form???? I was wondering how a little filly seemed to have so much free rein to do the things she's been doing and not have a parent or guardian or anyone else trying to rein her in! (Yes, I know, that's two "reins" in one sentence... )
6:33 - Carnivorous pineapples? "I'm going to EAT you!" "Not if I eat you FIRST!"
8:46 - So she wraps her up in... a chrysalis? Is this where she gets her name?
10:25 - Why not just wish them away to the cornfield?
14:46 - Even that unpleasent headmaster from the other school is there! I guess nothing makes friends like mutual enemies!
He got "reformed" remember, but in this show, "Reformation" is used pretty lightly.
World hunger: *Exsits*
Any kids show: *Sing sing sing sing sing*
The Mortal Kombat X Ray clip had me dying! 🤣
xD same
13:22
Not to mention that they could just reassemble them at any time, the same way they did right after Nightmare Moon broke them way back then.
Fizzlepop Berrytwist returns
0:38 I think it was stated in the Season 8 premiere School Daze when Celestia said what each of the Pony tribes learn in school
I hate to be that person and I love mlp but the last season didn't feel right. Cause as the show progressed you'd think Twilight would learn to truly be the embodiment of friendship but she constantly waves back and fourth to being a horrible person throughout the show, specifically that trivia episode, so her ending didn't feel all that well deserved yet
My favorite part of the finale is when we got to see Tempist Shadow again.
sometimes the villians could think better of their revenge plans on the mane six, maybe all of the mane six could have been turned evil by the magic of grogar, and applejack will have to save them all.
hollup, *_TEMPEST_* is in here???
Yeah I did like Tempest’s cameo but of course she wasn’t able to make a voice appearance because they can’t afford Emily Blunt for the show. That also goes for the other movie characters especially Zoe Saldana. I did like the movie because you discover that there’s so many other creatures.
It’s been mentioned that the earth ponies plant the crops in the first Christmas ep I’ll take that sin off for ya
One of my main issues is how the bell didn’t fully maximize Tirek but it did for the other 2.
It said previously because when it's on t.v it come the next day