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- I really wanted to recommend this blade, but in its current configuration, it's an accident waiting to happen.
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They fixed the problem with the tip being to exposed when closed. The knives coming out of factory right now are good to go.
That's great! I need another one!
Yeah mine is not like that, also I believe the thumb stud acts like a blade stopper when the knife is open.( strengthening the lock up when blade hits something)
I would still buy it. Mods is no biggy
Nice review Sir. People complaining about the size; in a serious knife fight REACH is very crucial because your primary target is the opponents hand holding the knife. You NEVER engage if you did NOT strike your opponents hand/fingers FIRST. Good luck doing that with a 3 inch toothpick. I would not want a blade under 5 inches and carry the large Espada every day. IMHO its the best tactical folder ever made.
People complaining about the steel; this is NOT a tool or kitchen knife. It is meant to be a serious weapon to defend your life and do some serious damage, if necessary. The pocket clip is great and doesn't telegraph knife. You could even carry it inconspicuously with dress pants. Now I have to get me this awesome Luzon. ;)
:) Good points. Thank you.
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Ever watch Fred Mastro? Make your first cut your most effective cut there’s no need to keep fighting if it can be ended immediately.. aim for the neck and follow through
Xl Espada every day btw.. just run er down the front of my pants
Another great vid. Good of you to bring this issue to light. I hope they're paying attention.
Yeah, me too. It's so close.
Great honest review Sir! Thank you!
Thank you for watching.
Got my cold steel luzon large in today no problems , it works as design . I dont know if Lynn Thompson intended the knife to be used like this but I can easily wave my luzon from my pocket just like a emerson pocket knife and I love it .
Michael Edge Oh, that's awesome!
where did u get it
Fast deployment is crucial for a tactical folder. That's why I love my large Espada with the pocket catch.
great vid dude!!! convinced on buying it now.
I get mine tonight, really glad I watched your video! Good work, fella!
Cool! That's awesome!
Thanks for the heads up. I plan to get both sizes for this knife.
Hi Joshua I just received the Large Luzon today and it is awesome razor
sharp and flips smoothly no issues with the point of the blade
extending beyond the end of the scales or seating like the first
production did which I returned once again thanks for the heads up :-)
Awesome! That's great to hear. It's such a fun knife.
This one caught my eye for there 2018 line up.
I found one on Ebay the day you aired your video of your knife haul from blade show. They probably went there as well. It was the same model. I'll have to modify it. IM VERY HAPPY I WATCHED THIS. mine is on it's way as we speak.
I think instead of cutting up the thumbstud a better solution is to dremel a small slot in the handle where it touches. I think it's supposed to act as a stop pin for the close position but they didn't mill the handle deep enough. Any knife where you can catch the top or the edge in a closed position is poorly designed.
15 foolish people gave this video a thumbs down, because he told the truth. That mostly got this knife fixed and saved a lot of hands and visits to the ER. PLUS !!Plus they fixed it.
:) Thank you.
You always give me a smile, sir! I can’t carry knives of this size but I collect a lot of different stuff. The thing I’ll say is that the protruding tip seems to be an issue with a lot of knives across the board of all price ranges. Usually you see it with a wharncliffe but it appears it’s possible with any blade shape!
What cant you?
Good review. Good job of pointing out the danger.
Those dangers aren't present on mine.. 40$, 6" blade, solid.. you won't be disappointed..
Awesome review and thanks for noticing that problem.
A+++++++👌👌👌
Thank you for watching!
Have my Luzon Large for about a year now, and it still is one of my favorite knifes.
I was trying hard, but I found no bear here around to check out bear stabbing ability.
But it works pretty well for eating Polish Sausage and bread.
Stay safe everybody,and stay blessed.
Greetings from Germany!
Lol!
I've only ever had that problem once, it was with the crkt M402, the ( large) thumbstud would catch on the pocket and activate the assist and pop open in the pocket. It was as you were placing it in the pocket. I did a psa on it because it was dangerous. Thanks for the heads up mr.slash.
You just may have saved us all from the “My new Cold Steel cut me within five minutes of ownership” posts on Facebook, was kinda looking forward to them. 🔪🔪😂😂😂
I need to think before I act. :)
You may have gotten a lemon. I was fortunate enough to get one and mine has none of the issues you describe. I absolutely love this knife I'm looking to get another one but they are impossible to find now.
That's great! I hope it is a small sample of the run.
Damn! I LOVE IT! I need to get one.
Good video. I got both sizes recently and they are cool knives. No tip issues that I can see.
Great! I need to grab an improved one. I loved the idea of the knife and most of the original.
I like big knives and I can not lie . Glad you fixed the problem maybe cold steel with adjust the thumb stud or even take it off
Definitely looks stabby!! Cool mod job my friend
Beautiful knife even if it needs A little fix. I would love it.
Thanks for the review Jimi,im still getting one but im going to wait a month or so,the way they are selling now hopefully Cold Steel will get it fixed soon..if they dont ill modify it.
That is one fine looking blade & I also like the big 4 & 5 " and especially 6" Cold Steel Blades ,can't wait until they are available again by Amazon.com
Yes I would love it .... modified. I am a huge fan of mega folders.
Just got the medium and love it.
Good information. I have to handle one to see if I really want one . Looks alone it's an awesome blade.
I just ordered 3 new sharpening rods: ceramic; diamond; and, bear femur! 😉
Good choices. :)
Bear femurs! Bear femurs everywhere!
thanks for looking out for our safety!!!!
You're welcome!
I would probably give it a shot just because I like modifying knives. Thanks for sharing.
It's worth a shot if you like to mod knives. It's great outside the danger zone. :)
Good thinking, puncture wound victims will breath a sigh of relief!
Its an amazing and gorgeous knife
Just got my large luzon today. it is gonna be a large back up knife for me .
I had a similar experience with my favorite cold steel knife, the Talwar. When closed the tip is not covered. I cut myself a few times on a completely closed knife because I would reach into my pocket for something else and as the edge of my hand grazed the butt of the handle, the skin could compress just deep enough to be cut by the tip of the blade.
That is not good. You should send it to Cold Steel.
They resolved the problem of the blade point sticking out when closed now..... 😎
Yes, that's awesome!
I just got mine & they must have fixed the problem because my blade is sunk into the handle enough so there's no danger of it causing any damage. I didn't know it had this flaw until I saw your video. That would be a reason to return it. I'm surprised they didn't catch this before it got into production. It's a monster & fun to do the Crocodile Dundee bit, "You call that a knife?" It's the only knife I know that flips open with a clunk.
They fixed it. It's a great blade.
Lol! While you sharpen your knife on the bear's femur...best line in this vid!
Lol! :)
Big and slicey. I like it!
You are very knowledgeable. I'm working on my Dahmer series for academy. Fun for the whole family is my goal.
Lol!
Nice fix, that’s a cool defensive blade.
Yeah, it is really cool.
Purpose-built self defense knife
Good video and advice ! Thank's !
Thank you for watching!
From France ! Encore merci ! :)
Mine is in transit from the US. I’m glad I watched this video. That would be a horror show if you jammed your hand into that.
They have fixed it since I made this. It will be a great blade.
I have one, and no issues you talk about are present. I think mine is a later release, but I can open mine w any of the 3 options pretty much effortlessly.i wouldn't have tried to change anything about it.. I've tested the secondary lock w my weight (185) and was pleased.. especially for 40$. Mine is solid af!
They fixed the issues I had with it. That's cool that you tested the lock. That's a lot of weight. Very nice.
I've carried an xl luzon for a year now. Its completely waveable if ur doing it with a strong pull. And like other comments they have fixed thumbstud issue.
It's a great knife.
It's cool looking.
Just ordered one we will see how it is soon
Alex Jones I just received mine from Blade HQ today after being on a wait list. Mine does not have this issue at all so idk if they corrected it or if he just got a bad knife.
Same thing happened to me. ....it opened in my pocket, ,,,i reached in my pocket for some change and that sharp tip slid right through my big thumb muscle. .....it hurt
Oh shoot...that's horrible.
Theses things rock for the price awesome I EDC my 6 in every day
note that it's not just a thumb stud, but it might also server as the "stop pin".
Hey man if you get the Cold Steel Bush Ranger, can you make sure to show the thickness of the scales vs other Cold Steels?
Will do.
Definitely a pocket sword
I broke the clip on my Luzon 4 times now. Does anyone know if someone makes a steel clip for cold steel knives to replace the plastic clip?
Great in depth review mate. I wonder if this issue exists with the 4" model. Thank you.
Can’t wait to get mine! Amazon just needs to get their sh!t together
I must have gotten a second model. Mine has a deeper recess for the thumb stud so the blade doesn't show.
It's my EDC, though I typically have four or five sharp tools on me at any one time.
Good! This is a really cool knife, once they fixed it a little.
Thanks for the review bro, I had my eye on one of these. I thought finally an XL I can afford, but nah ah ah after seeing this. I don't have a dremmel either
I hear that they fixed them. The new ones are just awesome.
Heard they fixed as well ... dremmels are great tools , not to expensive either ... I'll let you know, mines arrives Sat
I'd buy another..I have the l, and zero of those issues.. must have been an early thing!
Very cool knife, but I punctured my thumb two weeks ago to the bone while reaching for it inside my pocket . (Before I saw your review about that problem). It's a good thing the tip is small so the wound wasn´t that big. Still I love the knife, just don´t EDC it on my jeans (I carry it on a jacket now for protection). And I bought a broken skull, which is the one I carry now on my jeans and it's a lot more comfortable. I love Cold Steel big knifes as they are effective protection weapons. I live in Mexico and it's very hard for law abiding citizens to have a gun, but I feel secure carrying around the Luzon. I hope I will be able to buy other extra large folders (I´m worried that Lynn sold it to GSM and everything is out of stock right now).
Seems like an easy fix for Cold Steel!
I hope the reason these aren't out yet is because Cold Steel is working to fix this. I was going to get the large, to fill my need for a huge folder, but i got a Thompson Voyager for that recently. Still might pick a "medium" up. (might as well just call it the Micro Luzon, with that tiny 4" blade)
Oh, that Thompson Voyager is awesome. That will scratch the itch.
Yepp, it certainly did :)
I just checked mine and it did not have the same problem closing it. The thumb stud was not creating a stop.
This was three years ago. They fixed it.
That is big!
I have this knife and mine doesn't have the tip sticking out like yours does. I think that maybe yours might be a defect because my tip rests perfectly inside the handle. This knife fits perfectly in my pocket. I'm not a Folding knife guy, I love my fixed blades but aside from the Buck 110, This folder is the only one I will ever carry. This knife is totally worth the price. Great quality even though it's made in China. I don't mind the thumb studs and have no problem flicking the blade open using the thumb studs. I think the problem is you have really short stubby fingers. The handle is glass-filled nylon which is awesome. I'd buy it again.
I think they fixed them, but I am glad yours is great. I love the knife.
The first generation had problems with the lock but the new ones are flawless. I just got mine about a week ago, it came razor sharp. Yeah it's a great knife.
I just got mine, I think they fixed the problem cuz mine doesn't stick out as much as your.
Very nice! I am going to grab a new one.
Man this blade design is cold ,but I personally wish Cold Steel would go back to the drawing board on the liner lock and re do it like the Ti Lite knives for more contact with the tang ,they can even keep the security secondary safe lock but put that folded type liner leaf spring on this monster knife and it would come back as the knife of the year, still a good knife just one that can be done better even with the issue that they fixed on the first run.
All good points. That Ti-Lite liner on this knife would rock.
I was on the fence about this knife, but after watching your review I’m definitely getting it! Although I think I’m going to get the medium version with a 4-inch blade.
I have the ti-lite 4"-6", i have the luzon medium and the large is ordered lol definitely comparable in size to the ti-lite, with the medium Luzon i had no problem with carrying or opening as i pull it from my pocket. Joe X beat the living piss out of this blade, he also chooped down a tree with it lol. Im a few years after this video and it seems the problem you pointed out are fixed, although the one thimb stud is still there and is still hard to use the liner isnt in the way. Appreciate the video
I'd still buy it.
...a shame they didn't catch these problems earlier...for the $, and a few mods, I'm going to give it a chance...have a good evening...
that is folding bowie man
I'm pretty sure the thumb stud is the blade stop in both the closed and open position.
That's what I've been told. Just a bit of work on the lockside blade stop made it all better, but I don't know how they are fixing it, officially.
Jimislash, good to know. I have a CRKT Otanashi noh ken with the same problem. I'm going to try your solution on that. Thanks
That's a great knife, too. It is the same feeling as that Luzon; just stabby. Good luck!
Honestly, I think it'd be best to just grind down the spine to reprofile it from the swedge to the tip and take a couple millimeters off. That way the tip would be well clear of the end and sit a wee bit further in. If you don't have the tools I'd be happy to do it for you brother!
That would've worked, as well. My intent was to show the problem, more than actually fix it without addressing the problem.
I like it I'm getting one
Great! I will get another one, so you don't feel like you're the only one getting knives. :)
Sharpened on the BEAR'S FEMUR!!! I had to subscribe!!!
:) Thank you!
Thanks
Definitely needs to be addressed!
I know flipper and triadlock do not work well, but it is sad see a liner lock on a cold steel model. Anyway that knife is illegal in my country, more than 11 cm long blade is not allowed. But well, it is a good self defense knife but... i think i prefer the ti-lite.
Regards!.
On the fly comedy 😂
Is the Luzon a luzer? We'll see... 🤔
They aren't just thumb stud. They are also the blade stop. They transfer stress from the blade to the handle.
Yeah, I messed that up. But I know, now.
@@Jimislash either way i sincerely enjoy your reviews
@@johnmccomber8371 :) Thank you!
Monster indeed.
I still want to get one! I'm fine modding it too I gotta remember to order it soon!
Those thumb studs are the open blade stop. Just Dremel the handle/scale for clearance.
I was concerned about Dremeling into the lock.
The only thing is if you mod the liner/handle so the blade sits deeper, it's going to throw your detent off. The hole in the blade will no longer line up with the detent ball in the liner. 😕
That would be the case if the thumb stud was intended to be the blade stop in the closed position. There's no way to tell unless you can examine the knife to see if there is an internal blade stop. If an internal blade stop does exist then the thumb stub and or the handle/liner was poorly designed/clearanced .
It's possible there's an internal stop pin or something, but the fact that the detent works in Jimi's knife with the stud hitting the frame like it is indicates that the stud is likely the stop in both positions. If the stud were hitting the frame before it was supposed to, that would probably keep the detent from working also, since the blade wouldn't be going far enough down into the handle for the detent to engage. We'll have to wait for a tear down and see. edit: I see Jimi mentioned he's dremeled the knife and it works. Jimi, did you grind away part of the liner/scale?
I was told today they aren't available. I ordered in March and its July . How did you get one? I ordered directly from Cold Steel!
I bought one at Blade Show.
I preordered in March too 😑
Still can't find these anywhere. I'd like the smaller one. Can't stand that steel anymore....but I'll make an exception.
Saw that beast in the display case, but yo Papi ees too big! I love the blade shape and design, if only it came in something other than Family Size. Any backstory on the name? "We were in the back alleys of Luzon, when..."
www.bladehq.com/item--Cold-Steel-Medium-Luzon-Leaf-Spring--80431
Answers to both your questions. :)
Filipino Box Spring Hog. Right price as well. Thanks.
That tip issue seems to be hit or miss. Mine is fine as there is plenty of space between the tip and the end of the handle since my thumb studs don't contact the handle. Snaggle tooth is the ticket.
I ended up getting two. One for my back pack 24/7. The other for my pocket...if I feel like a carry for that day...
No tip problems...
Nice! They fixed that problem a couple years ago.
I had a feeling after I saw Lynn promoting this knife that jimislash probably picked one up!.I wasn't wrong..lol
Also I have a feeling if it's a design problem and just not a bunk batch that Lynn will correct it...he always says he worries about folding knives cutting costumers trigger fingers hence the stong locks
It was very impressive. I hope they get it fixed soon.
I almost bought a Luzon, thanks for the review, I better stick with my 4 and 6 inch ti lites, they still are a better option than the Luzon models
If you have those, you are way ahead of the Luzon crowd.
Hi Jimmi,
The thumbstud isn't quite useless : when the knife is open it will perform as an aditional stop bar
The real issue I think is the whole was 1 mm or so too far from the spine of the blade
Are those thumb studs are are they acting as the blade stop?
Oh, good call. I think you are correct.
Serious design flaw.
Jimislash
Yes, I think so because the FRN is contoured to accept those as stops.
Looks like blade stop
I'm just not there yet.
I like it
I have 3 of them. I don’t see the need to do anything. It’s a flipper. The point is hidden in the handles on all mine. If you really pressed your finger in the end you might feel the tip maybe. I believe the knife is meant to be an easy open and close flipper and it is. Could it cut you hell yes it’s huge. It’s like the Xl Espada if you don’t learn to handle the thing it will cut you up good. The thumb stud works also but I think it would be used less often and it does require careful operation. It’s a huge flipping cutting machine. For the price it is what it is. It’s not an Espada or a XL Counter point. All mine are razor sharp and that’s exactly what they are a huge flipping razor.
That's awesome! I'm glad you got some good ones. I can't wait to get another one.
I can't wait to get this knife. I have 2 cold steel Ti-Lite 13in knives.
I want another one. It's pretty cool.
What is the blade grind ?
I'm not certain, but they do a lot of hollow grind over there.