Another cool detail about the Thompson in this episode; it’s fitted with a Cuts compensator, which became an option in 1926 and was standard on the succeeding M1928 iirc. Also, Serafine’s BAR has been cut down to the gas tube, a common modification for gangs that had BARs. I believe there’s a photo of either Bonnie or Clyde with a BAR in an almost identical configuration.
Also we can see the bar being used to provide cover fire while advancing wich was it's original purpose and might suggest that the user is either a gun nut or served in ww1
0:42 Mordecai does not shoot out the car's engine. He is aiming for Rocky. When the car swerves offroad the bullet instead hits the side mirror, and the car careens out of control into the quarry. The damage to the engine is done by the crash.
Mordecai doesn't shoot out the engine of the car. Rocky forces the car to swerve off the road just as he takes his shot, and he hits the driver side wing mirror.
Yeah its weird that I keep hearing that he was going for the engine. This is the second time and idunno where it comes from, Mordecai was obviously going for Rocky and nothing else. Besides, he cannot hit the engine in the first place, the front is facing directly opposite of him.
The guns are all period correct and well researched and very well drawn to the point you can tell their make and model which is extremely satisfying for gun nerds like us. It would have been easier to give all the cats generic cartoony guns but they put a lot of effort in to the little details. Also thank you for cataloging this because I doubt imfdb will make a page about the guns that 1920s cats use. It's funny that I was hoping someone would make a video like this and here you are.
Anything for the mobsters and high-profile bank robbers of the day, after all. You wouldn't catch the likes of John Dillinger dead without a high-quality weapon to match his Robin Hood image.
Based on the era, Nico’s revolver might also just be a standard issue Webley revolver. They were used by all British officers in the First World War and were fairly common, especially the long-barreled variants, which might explain the extended barrel length of the revolver in the few shots it’s shown
The barrel seems too thin for a Webley, although they were common at the time. It's also too thicc to be a Schofield, which was another common revolver of that era
Another cool detail: When Freckle is shooting at Nico, Mordecai whispers to himself the number of shots Freckle has fired and runs out at six, which is the number of bullets the specific pistol could hold.
0:58 okay so here, it is probably most similarly sized and proportioned to the Vest Pocket. But the slide that is raised towards the back and other elements is very reminiscent of a more comically small gun, the Kolibri. Both guns match up with the timeline, so the inspiration is very likely.
@@SterBen-ut1io THANK YOU SO MUCH! That was bugging the SHIT out of me. You're absolutely right. That's a HELL of an obscure pistol to use, but perfection, even down to the takedown lever and inverted rails
i took the time to figure out what the Lackadaisy and Marigold gangs drive in these chases. Lackadaisies crew is canonically in a 1927 Ford Model A. the Marigold gang never had a canonical car, although on design elements and overall matching appearance seems to be the 1927 Cadillac 314A
Such a new car, and already trashed... I can kinda excuse the Lackadaisy crew, but why did the Marigolds take a new car to a fight, and risk damaging it? ?
The pistol they pull out of the seat has an unusual low-axis barrel that makes me think it's something more obscure like a Bayard 1908 in .25ACP (the only version with a 6-round magazine) or Steyr M1909. Also the BAR is specifically based on the modified guns used by Clyde Barrow's gang, with the barrel cut down to the length of the gas tube and the stock shortened. The Thompson used has a Cutts Compensator and so is an M1921AC. I'm no expert on revolvers, by my guess for Nico's gun would be Smith & Wesson Model 10, probably in .38 Special.
I will say, I was impressed with their attention to detail. The Tommy’s cocking knob moves in some scenes, and the reference to Bonnie and Clyde’s sawn-off M1918 is topped off with a very realistic sounding cadence.
0:43 Mordecai does IN FACT not shoot out the engine, but rather misses and hits the side view mirror. You can see the left mirror breaking when the car turns left. the reason the car broke down, was because of gunfire, reckless driving and a crash
not a gun fanatic or enthusist but im loving the analysis of the gun's models and possible origins from the lacidasy pilot. This thus here, the knowledge, history and enthusiasm is what draws laymen like myself into learning more about guns. That and various shoot-em-up games. (in particular COD) which while researching best combinations of attachments or sets of guns/perks while playing squads or zombies mode end up going down the rabbit-hole of learning about the real ones they're based on. Though that may be a more "me" thing thinking about it.
It’s also worth noting that the BAR was also used by outlaws during the 1920’s and 1930’s. The most notable use in this time period was by the infamous outlaws Bonnie and Clyde. It’s also worth noting all of the guns used were also used by law enforcement agents, such as the newly formed FBI, local police agencies, and the different state rangers. In fact, the Texas Rangers sent to take out Bonnie and Clyde also used BARs as well as shotguns to take them out.
Very cool the way you edited the video was actually pretty decent, I saw someone on the coments off the pilot say that serafine weapon was unrealistic because there weren't any automatic shotguns in the 1920's and i was like that's a BAR and is a light machine gun, for real someone confounded a light machine gun with a shotgun.
As a non-gun nut I also got confused at what weapon she had, mostly because I'm familiar with the idea of a sawn-off shotgun but hadn't ever heard of a sawn-off machine gun before
My best bet is that they confused the wooden handguard and bar it rests on (not sure of the name of the part) with the pump and magazine of a shotgun. Granted, you'd think they'd figure it out after it was a) automatic and b) not firing pellets, but whatever.
The way she used it was quite a bit confusing: in some shots it indeed looked like she was firing something like a shotgun... I wonder does M1918 have a burst firing mode like modern automatic rifles?
I was pleasantly surprised to see the BAR get some representation. Baby face Nelson and Bonnie and Clyde had a fondness for it. Really nice to see more than just the Thompson, but it would be a crime to not let tommy have a spotlight. I also like how Mordecai held his 1911. The thumb position was spot on for two handed pistol shooting.
The Thompson with its drum magazine was infamous for it being more likely to jam, which is why in the 2nd World War box magazines were used instead with the M1A1 model, successor to the M1921. The Chicago Typewriter was also chambered in .45 ACP. SMGs were generally chambered in pistol rounds, as they were a fairly new weapon of war (even if they were mostly late to the party that was the Great War).
No, it would most likely be .45 Long Colt. .45 ACP is a rimless cartridge, which prevents it from being used in revolvers. ACP was initially invented for use in the 1911.
I think its worth mentioning that while Freckle's Model 1921 Thompson "Tommy gun" has a 100 round drum mag, it is not at max capacity because he ran out fairly quickly for a gun that dishes out 15 rounds per second(Based on technical aspects. In the pilot, he only fired the weapon for 4-5 seconds before running out). Still it's possible that Freckle fired more rounds off screen.
I appreciate your dedication to searching all this/knowing all this and educating the general public. I was just expecting a compilation of stills with the picture of the gun beside it but man, you went above and beyond.
I think the gun that Freckle pulls out of the seat is actually a Phoenix Arms Co. Pocket Model .25ACP, the slide has the rounded shape at the rear like the gun in the pilot and the barrel being at the bottom of the slide closer to the frame is characteristic of old Phoenix Arms designs.
The real reason Lackadaisy is going to kick ass; It bridges the gap between animation fans and gun nerds far better than the other existing online shows do. Mordecai knows his shit. Get that Colt my dude. Interesting note, but Im fairly certain Serafine fires far more than 20 shots from her BAR. Story-enhancing intentional missdirection or oversight, who knows.
Two things. 1. The drum on the Thompson seems to be closer in size to the 50 round L Drum, than the 100 round C Drum to me. 2. The pocket pistol is more likely a Bayard 1908, than a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket.
Good job on your research- you nailed all the guns and shared a bit of their history. It's nice when a piece of media portrays firearms (especially the historical ones) so well like this pilot has, and even nicer for people to appreciate the details.
OK OK OK OK so my brother is like, a huge gun fanatic!! He’s fr crazy and for the split second the guns were on screen he was able to name them, and their rounds(and kept pointing out how some scenes were inaccurate lol) he also somehow knew the Tommy gun was nicknamed the “Chicago typewriter” because of how many times it was used in gang fights I guess:b isn’t that cool though??
thb the only reason i remember the tommy gun's nickname was from that one mob movie and from CODWW1 zombies mode. (M1920 when packapunched is named the chicago typwriter.) neet though that your brother is so gun knowledgable.
Another tidbit of information, Freckle’s Thompson fires .45 ACP. But the BAR that Serafine was firing at them beforehand? .30-06. Its effectively a full-auto M1 Garand. And yes, I do only know that because I watch TheRussianBadger
Dude when I saw that pocket pistol I was like "Okay a .32 or .38 pistol not that bad in this pinch." I wasn't expecting it to be .25... That dude was lucky rocky came in with the Dynamite.
I fired a tommoy gun in a shooting range once. It has very little kickback and is surprisingly accurate. Though I was yelling about hating cows more than coppers :p
At minute 13:22 and 13:35 of the pilot you can see a decently detailed side view of the revolver. And frankly it does look a lot like a chrome 1917 with a slightly longer barrel.
I know fuck all about guns so this was helpful, even just for the weapons in Lackadaisy! I probably shouldn't have my characters be so reliant on guns when I know so little but hey, that's what Google's for. And now I have this little bit of knowledge too!
I still find it pretty funny that Mordecai tried to fire a handgun dead centered between the eyes with both eyes open and hope to hit a moving target with vastly increasing range.
While hitting a moving target with a pistol at increasing range is difficult, you're supposed to hold a handgun dead center. Closing one eye is a myth and it actually can make you less accurate.
@@KermitTheGamer21 sorry for the inaccuracy. I’ve always shot with one of my eyes closed because of a surgery to made the vision much worse and unbalanced between the two.
There was another scene with Nico and his revolver when the lights came on and their trio came through the entrance of the quarry. It's not a great angle, but it's the only other clear shot we have of his firearm.
Embarrassingly I actually got annoyed at first, because I barely got a glance at the BAR when I first watched this, and it almost sounded like a shotgun, so I got *super* confused when she was firing like 30 shots out of what I thought was a double barrel, then I realized that I was a f*cking moron and it was in fact a BAR. Course, it has a 20 round magazine and she fires *well* over that, but then again, what movie or show ever actually gets that correct? Either way, it’s so cool seeing so much research done for those weapons. Also, if that BAR is based off of Bonnie and Clyde’s BAR’s like people are saying, I wonder if… that’s how they go out…
You did a good job identifying the weapons here. I just wanted to clarify a few things about the BAR. While the BAR did make it to Europe in the closing days of WW1, it was never issued to troops or used in combat. Pershing was concerned that the BAR may be captured and reverse engineered by the Germans, so US forces continued using the French Chauchat as their light machine gun. The BAR is not an assault rifle, as it uses full power rifle cartridges such as the 30-06. Smaller, weaker intermediate cartridges are one of the defining features of an assault rifle. It also is because the Assault rifle would not truly be invented for another 25 years with the creation of the StG 43. Based on it's role and features, I believe that the best modern term for the BAR would be SAW, or Squad Automatic Weapon. The MG 42 isn't really a great comparison for the BAR as that is a belt fed, crew served LMG which was only used while stationary or mounted on vehicles. the MG 42 is best compared to the Browning M1919 or M2. A better equivalent for the BAR would be the Bren light machine gun since it was also magazine fed and designed for use by a single operator.
I think you got Nico's revolver spot on. It's either that or an old single-action army. It's cool to see another gun enjoyer. I discovered this series from the pilot, and being born a year before the comics (which they came out in '06) I'm mad I've never heard of it because everything about it is phenomenal, especially the research as others said.
Glad you did this cuz it helps me personally but I did notice one minor detail complete misunderstanding nothing wrong with it or anything but actually that. Mordecai took hit the side mirror because he was aiming for Rocky's head when Rocky suddenly swerved the car not the engine ♡
I think the 1911 we see in the pilot is an M1911A1, which was designed in 1924. the difference between the M1911 and M1911A1 are subtle, but noticeable when compared side by side. For example, the M1911 has a long trigger and short spurs, while the M1911A1 has a short trigger and long spurs. Considering that Lackadaisy takes place in 1927, it is possible that it is an M1911A1, but I think it's best not to jump to conclusions until we get a good look at the gun when it's not in Mordecai's hand.
@@nova.exe87 yep, it's the reason why the National Firearms Act of 1934 set the tax stamps for short barreled rifles/shotguns, silencers, and machine guns at $200 dollars. To price gouge everyone out of buying them and barely sidestep the blatant unconstitutionality of an outright ban.
So the pistol labeled the Colt 1908 Vest pocket pistol is actually what's called a Dreyse M1907 pistol. The main distinction is the underbarrel design and it's Austrian origin as Viktor (who in lore is from Austria) was likely the one who acquires most of Lackadaisy's weapons including this one. Weirdly it's a pistol known for shooting .32 ACP instead of a homegrown cartridge. That said I am no expert and just a guy who likes old antique stuff. All the guns in Lackadaisy are fun to see in this style and I enjoy it quite a bit.
If I remember correctly, Bonnie and Clyde were infamous for using the BAR in their crime spree. Or did they get shot by a BAR? I can't remember exactly.
I remember watching the movie about the people who hunted them, I don’t know how historically accurate it is but in the film I think they were done in by the BAR.
At first I thought the Remington model 81 was used since that had a Police only conversion started production around the 1920s so that could be an alternative. But the BAR has that distinct blocky wooden grip and the Remington had a curved magazine so the BAR is still more similar. In the trailer it was stated the those drinks are outlawed so if those were police going after them then the Remington 81 would make sense even more, Mordecai gets called the chief too.
when i saw Calvin use the Thompson i knew he meant business knowing that it was infamous for destroying vehicles to the last scrap, im loving how well researched lackadaisy is and excited for more animated episodes
Colt model M .32 was a real classic of the era and so was the browning 1900 and 1910 .models ..and it's common for the 1900 to be shiny nickel plated .. And cut down 1897 pump shotgun I'm surprised none made the cut for lackadaisy
at first I thought Nico was holding a C96 Mauser since you cant get a proper look at it though it could've easily been a good choice since guns used by Germany in both world wars were mostly used as "villan guns" like the p09 and the p38
Im pretty sure Mordecai was aiming for Rocky but he missed and hit the side mirrors. If you watch closely you can see the mirror shatter as the car swirvs.
Thank you for the clarification. From the design of Serafine's gun, I thought it looked like a shotgun, but they were making it behave like an automatic rifle.
@@nova.exe87 can’t say I know much about how sturdy those old cars were but I’d bet the only place they could take a bullet or two would be if it hit the engine
The Thompson was also a World War II favorite among soldiers and marines fighting in both theatres, It was given to squad leaders, tankers and paratroopers during campaigns like the D Day landings in Normandy or the Battle Of The Bulge.
Also late in WWII the Thompson was replaced by cheaper M3 Grease Gun which was inexpensive to make which the Tommy Gun was 400$ during wartime production.
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This is one of the main reasons i LOVE lackadaisy. Everythings so well researched, from the guns to the cars to even the clothing.
Lackadaisy is one of the best online series, the comic is well made and free,
I hope that Lackadaisy becomes full animated show
I couldn't agree more:)
Repent, and Jesus will forgive :)
@@e_s.0848 why ?
@@nova.exe87 wheres the comics?. Can you link them?
Another cool detail about the Thompson in this episode; it’s fitted with a Cuts compensator, which became an option in 1926 and was standard on the succeeding M1928 iirc. Also, Serafine’s BAR has been cut down to the gas tube, a common modification for gangs that had BARs. I believe there’s a photo of either Bonnie or Clyde with a BAR in an almost identical configuration.
Thanks for the info
The short is set in 1927, just one year after the invention of the cutts device.
Also we can see the bar being used to provide cover fire while advancing wich was it's original purpose and might suggest that the user is either a gun nut or served in ww1
@@blockwithaglock96 I REALLY doubt they let girls serve in either role in the 1910s...
At first I thought the BAR was the Colt Monitor version, but I see it doesn't have a pistol grip.
0:42 Mordecai does not shoot out the car's engine. He is aiming for Rocky. When the car swerves offroad the bullet instead hits the side mirror, and the car careens out of control into the quarry. The damage to the engine is done by the crash.
Mordecai doesn't shoot out the engine of the car. Rocky forces the car to swerve off the road just as he takes his shot, and he hits the driver side wing mirror.
Oh, I should have payed more attention while editing
Yeah its weird that I keep hearing that he was going for the engine. This is the second time and idunno where it comes from, Mordecai was obviously going for Rocky and nothing else. Besides, he cannot hit the engine in the first place, the front is facing directly opposite of him.
@@CountSpartula Not even God's handgun can penetrate through a whole car to hit the engine from the rear.
@@panther-nk2hn Let alone a car from the 1920's that were built like a tank.
The guns are all period correct and well researched and very well drawn to the point you can tell their make and model which is extremely satisfying for gun nerds like us. It would have been easier to give all the cats generic cartoony guns but they put a lot of effort in to the little details. Also thank you for cataloging this because I doubt imfdb will make a page about the guns that 1920s cats use. It's funny that I was hoping someone would make a video like this and here you are.
I tried to set up a Imfdb account in order to CATalog the guns in Lackadaisy but it looked way to hard so i did not make a account
@@nova.exe87 catalog lol
Everything but the cats is actually 3D-rendered in Blender
Fun fact: Thompson 1921 was also famous for its rich finishes with master wood and finest metals
I should have added that
and rpm of the gun which is i think nearly identical to the mg34's rpm
@@creepaultonyoutube734 yep! That's why it's also called "Chicago Typewriter" beaucse with that fire rate you can type your whole name on a wall
Anything for the mobsters and high-profile bank robbers of the day, after all. You wouldn't catch the likes of John Dillinger dead without a high-quality weapon to match his Robin Hood image.
@@Hervoo Which Al Capone practically did on one particular February 14. He even highlighted his name with blood.
Based on the era, Nico’s revolver might also just be a standard issue Webley revolver. They were used by all British officers in the First World War and were fairly common, especially the long-barreled variants, which might explain the extended barrel length of the revolver in the few shots it’s shown
Nah, the Webley has a very distinctive wedge in front of the cylinder.
The barrel seems too thin for a Webley, although they were common at the time. It's also too thicc to be a Schofield, which was another common revolver of that era
I think it most likely a S&W triple lock, simler length, it’s a double action, and the iron sights and calendar look similar
Another cool detail: When Freckle is shooting at Nico, Mordecai whispers to himself the number of shots Freckle has fired and runs out at six, which is the number of bullets the specific pistol could hold.
At 12:16 or 12:17 of the pilot you can see a more detailed look at Nico's revolver which has an almost identical hammer to the colt 1917
Thank you for noticing that
You can get a full side shot of the revolver (with slightly less detail) at 13:22 and 13:35
and an extremely good view at 13:51 in the pilot
It could also be a colt new service, which the 1917 is based on.
0:58 okay so here, it is probably most similarly sized and proportioned to the Vest Pocket.
But the slide that is raised towards the back and other elements is very reminiscent of a more comically small gun, the Kolibri.
Both guns match up with the timeline, so the inspiration is very likely.
naw dog thats a vici pistol
@@SterBen-ut1io THANK YOU SO MUCH! That was bugging the SHIT out of me. You're absolutely right. That's a HELL of an obscure pistol to use, but perfection, even down to the takedown lever and inverted rails
Oled like a Steyr-Pieper 1909
it's much closer to the Bayard 1908
Mordecai even counts down as Freckles makes six shots. Super detailed!
i took the time to figure out what the Lackadaisy and Marigold gangs drive in these chases.
Lackadaisies crew is canonically in a 1927 Ford Model A.
the Marigold gang never had a canonical car, although on design elements and overall matching appearance seems to be the 1927 Cadillac 314A
Such a new car, and already trashed... I can kinda excuse the Lackadaisy crew, but why did the Marigolds take a new car to a fight, and risk damaging it? ?
@@damiand3709 either really bad money management or mordecai is simply too rich to give a shit
The pistol they pull out of the seat has an unusual low-axis barrel that makes me think it's something more obscure like a Bayard 1908 in .25ACP (the only version with a 6-round magazine) or Steyr M1909.
Also the BAR is specifically based on the modified guns used by Clyde Barrow's gang, with the barrel cut down to the length of the gas tube and the stock shortened.
The Thompson used has a Cutts Compensator and so is an M1921AC.
I'm no expert on revolvers, by my guess for Nico's gun would be Smith & Wesson Model 10, probably in .38 Special.
for me it kinda looks like a bayard 1908 with the backsights of a fn1900
after some digging it turns out the pistol they pull out of the car seat is exactly a “vici pistol”
@@yuhhhguy5606 thanks for the info
@@yuhhhguy5606 dang that is some impressive sleuthing
I will say, I was impressed with their attention to detail. The Tommy’s cocking knob moves in some scenes, and the reference to Bonnie and Clyde’s sawn-off M1918 is topped off with a very realistic sounding cadence.
0:43 Mordecai does IN FACT not shoot out the engine, but rather misses and hits the side view mirror.
You can see the left mirror breaking when the car turns left.
the reason the car broke down, was because of gunfire, reckless driving and a crash
not a gun fanatic or enthusist but im loving the analysis of the gun's models and possible origins from the lacidasy pilot. This thus here, the knowledge, history and enthusiasm is what draws laymen like myself into learning more about guns.
That and various shoot-em-up games. (in particular COD) which while researching best combinations of attachments or sets of guns/perks while playing squads or zombies mode end up going down the rabbit-hole of learning about the real ones they're based on. Though that may be a more "me" thing thinking about it.
Same bro, I got started learning about how guns work by noticing that the bolt handle on the galil moves back and forth as you fire in COD BO2 lol.
It’s also worth noting that the BAR was also used by outlaws during the 1920’s and 1930’s. The most notable use in this time period was by the infamous outlaws Bonnie and Clyde.
It’s also worth noting all of the guns used were also used by law enforcement agents, such as the newly formed FBI, local police agencies, and the different state rangers. In fact, the Texas Rangers sent to take out Bonnie and Clyde also used BARs as well as shotguns to take them out.
And then WWII, Soldiers and Marines fighting against the Germans and Japanese loved it.
An interesting note: the Colt M1911, the BAR, and the 1908 Vest Pocket were all designed by the same man; John Moses Browning.
He is a legend 😅
Very cool the way you edited the video was actually pretty decent, I saw someone on the coments off the pilot say that serafine weapon was unrealistic because there weren't any automatic shotguns in the 1920's and i was like that's a BAR and is a light machine gun, for real someone confounded a light machine gun with a shotgun.
Thank you, its funny that someone got a famous WW1 Light Machine gun confused with a Automatic shotgun
@@nova.exe87 It admittedly looks _slightly_ similar to a shotgun... _if you only look at it for less than 5 seconds_
As a non-gun nut I also got confused at what weapon she had, mostly because I'm familiar with the idea of a sawn-off shotgun but hadn't ever heard of a sawn-off machine gun before
My best bet is that they confused the wooden handguard and bar it rests on (not sure of the name of the part) with the pump and magazine of a shotgun.
Granted, you'd think they'd figure it out after it was a) automatic and b) not firing pellets, but whatever.
The way she used it was quite a bit confusing: in some shots it indeed looked like she was firing something like a shotgun... I wonder does M1918 have a burst firing mode like modern automatic rifles?
This is some very Accurate gun firing sound effects in the pilot and it perfectly matches up with the animation.
As a Chicago kid, I loved seeing the typewriter again.
Nerded out when Serafine used her BAR for marching fire in the quarry with the proper sling support and everything.
I was pleasantly surprised to see the BAR get some representation. Baby face Nelson and Bonnie and Clyde had a fondness for it.
Really nice to see more than just the Thompson, but it would be a crime to not let tommy have a spotlight.
I also like how Mordecai held his 1911. The thumb position was spot on for two handed pistol shooting.
I'm currently a pixel artist in training and this video is making me want to pixel versions of all of these
It will be cool if you do that
The Thompson with its drum magazine was infamous for it being more likely to jam, which is why in the 2nd World War box magazines were used instead with the M1A1 model, successor to the M1921.
The Chicago Typewriter was also chambered in .45 ACP. SMGs were generally chambered in pistol rounds, as they were a fairly new weapon of war (even if they were mostly late to the party that was the Great War).
Yeah, Nico's revolver's probably just .45 ACP. That's what'd make the most sense.
No, it would most likely be .45 Long Colt. .45 ACP is a rimless cartridge, which prevents it from being used in revolvers. ACP was initially invented for use in the 1911.
@@TheJhouston if it’s an m1917, it’s probably .45 ACP though.
@@fluffywolfo3663 I stand corrected. I was not aware that any revolvers had been designed to fire .45 ACP
I think its worth mentioning that while Freckle's Model 1921 Thompson "Tommy gun" has a 100 round drum mag, it is not at max capacity because he ran out fairly quickly for a gun that dishes out 15 rounds per second(Based on technical aspects. In the pilot, he only fired the weapon for 4-5 seconds before running out). Still it's possible that Freckle fired more rounds off screen.
I really love that they put that bump at the top of the BARs receiver for the lockup mechanism
I appreciate your dedication to searching all this/knowing all this and educating the general public. I was just expecting a compilation of stills with the picture of the gun beside it but man, you went above and beyond.
I think the gun that Freckle pulls out of the seat is actually a Phoenix Arms Co. Pocket Model .25ACP, the slide has the rounded shape at the rear like the gun in the pilot and the barrel being at the bottom of the slide closer to the frame is characteristic of old Phoenix Arms designs.
its actually a vici pistol
Funny enough the first time freckle is mentioned it’s not freckle it’s Calvin lol
was having trouble identifying Freckle's tiny pistol and this came in clutch
The real reason Lackadaisy is going to kick ass;
It bridges the gap between animation fans and gun nerds far better than the other existing online shows do.
Mordecai knows his shit. Get that Colt my dude.
Interesting note, but Im fairly certain Serafine fires far more than 20 shots from her BAR. Story-enhancing intentional missdirection or oversight, who knows.
speed load
I love Lackadaisy because of the amount of research they did!
0:19 The Thompson is the best weapon ever created, easy to reload, not too heavy and fires quickly 🙃
AK-74 is better (at least in the price-quality-reliability ratio).
nah
@@user-lb4jy4jt2rdepends if you talk about ak74n or ak74m
the weapons were the first things I noticed when realizing this show did good research.
This, THIS is the video I have been waiting for.
A lot of youngins don't understand how old the 1911 is. They think it is a new weapon. seen a couple reactors question its use in the show.
Two things.
1. The drum on the Thompson seems to be closer in size to the 50 round L Drum, than the 100 round C Drum to me.
2. The pocket pistol is more likely a Bayard 1908, than a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket.
I agree. Calvin "Freckles" ran out fairly quickly for a gun that has the firepower of 15 rounds per second.
"What caliber does a BAR shoot?"
".306"
"WHAAAT!!!!???"
"It's literally a full auto Garan"
Good job on your research- you nailed all the guns and shared a bit of their history. It's nice when a piece of media portrays firearms (especially the historical ones) so well like this pilot has, and even nicer for people to appreciate the details.
OK OK OK OK so my brother is like, a huge gun fanatic!! He’s fr crazy and for the split second the guns were on screen he was able to name them, and their rounds(and kept pointing out how some scenes were inaccurate lol) he also somehow knew the Tommy gun was nicknamed the “Chicago typewriter” because of how many times it was used in gang fights I guess:b isn’t that cool though??
thb the only reason i remember the tommy gun's nickname was from that one mob movie and from CODWW1 zombies mode. (M1920 when packapunched is named the chicago typwriter.)
neet though that your brother is so gun knowledgable.
I’m no gun nerd, but this is a very satisfying video to watch
Another tidbit of information, Freckle’s Thompson fires .45 ACP. But the BAR that Serafine was firing at them beforehand?
.30-06. Its effectively a full-auto M1 Garand.
And yes, I do only know that because I watch TheRussianBadger
My dad says that Nicos revolver might be a 1851 Navy or maybe a conversion of one, but love the video
Dude when I saw that pocket pistol I was like "Okay a .32 or .38 pistol not that bad in this pinch." I wasn't expecting it to be .25... That dude was lucky rocky came in with the Dynamite.
I fired a tommoy gun in a shooting range once. It has very little kickback and is surprisingly accurate. Though I was yelling about hating cows more than coppers :p
My friend August Caccavone had his Thompson in Europe during WWII. He's 96 now and fought during the Battle Of The Bulge and Germany 7th Army
At minute 13:22 and 13:35 of the pilot you can see a decently detailed side view of the revolver. And frankly it does look a lot like a chrome 1917 with a slightly longer barrel.
Credit to the animators attention to detail.
The BAR appears to have a sawn off barrel which was a modification gangsters did to the weapon
I know fuck all about guns so this was helpful, even just for the weapons in Lackadaisy! I probably shouldn't have my characters be so reliant on guns when I know so little but hey, that's what Google's for. And now I have this little bit of knowledge too!
i like how that showed the thompson disassembled in a violin case due to how small and easy it was to assemble it quickly
I still find it pretty funny that Mordecai tried to fire a handgun dead centered between the eyes with both eyes open and hope to hit a moving target with vastly increasing range.
While hitting a moving target with a pistol at increasing range is difficult, you're supposed to hold a handgun dead center. Closing one eye is a myth and it actually can make you less accurate.
@@KermitTheGamer21 sorry for the inaccuracy. I’ve always shot with one of my eyes closed because of a surgery to made the vision much worse and unbalanced between the two.
There was another scene with Nico and his revolver when the lights came on and their trio came through the entrance of the quarry. It's not a great angle, but it's the only other clear shot we have of his firearm.
Embarrassingly I actually got annoyed at first, because I barely got a glance at the BAR when I first watched this, and it almost sounded like a shotgun, so I got *super* confused when she was firing like 30 shots out of what I thought was a double barrel, then I realized that I was a f*cking moron and it was in fact a BAR.
Course, it has a 20 round magazine and she fires *well* over that, but then again, what movie or show ever actually gets that correct? Either way, it’s so cool seeing so much research done for those weapons.
Also, if that BAR is based off of Bonnie and Clyde’s BAR’s like people are saying, I wonder if… that’s how they go out…
Just waiting for them Texas Rangers to show up huh?
The 30-6 is used in the M1 Garand and the Aircraft Version Browning Model 1919, which has double the fire rate than the regular Model 1919
You did a good job identifying the weapons here. I just wanted to clarify a few things about the BAR.
While the BAR did make it to Europe in the closing days of WW1, it was never issued to troops or used in combat. Pershing was concerned that the BAR may be captured and reverse engineered by the Germans, so US forces continued using the French Chauchat as their light machine gun. The BAR is not an assault rifle, as it uses full power rifle cartridges such as the 30-06. Smaller, weaker intermediate cartridges are one of the defining features of an assault rifle. It also is because the Assault rifle would not truly be invented for another 25 years with the creation of the StG 43. Based on it's role and features, I believe that the best modern term for the BAR would be SAW, or Squad Automatic Weapon.
The MG 42 isn't really a great comparison for the BAR as that is a belt fed, crew served LMG which was only used while stationary or mounted on vehicles. the MG 42 is best compared to the Browning M1919 or M2. A better equivalent for the BAR would be the Bren light machine gun since it was also magazine fed and designed for use by a single operator.
I think you got Nico's revolver spot on. It's either that or an old single-action army. It's cool to see another gun enjoyer. I discovered this series from the pilot, and being born a year before the comics (which they came out in '06) I'm mad I've never heard of it because everything about it is phenomenal, especially the research as others said.
Glad you did this cuz it helps me personally but I did notice one minor detail complete misunderstanding nothing wrong with it or anything but actually that. Mordecai took hit the side mirror because he was aiming for Rocky's head when Rocky suddenly swerved the car not the engine ♡
Amazing video, one thing. Mordecai hits the mirror, not the engine
There guns are on point my only gripe is when they show the 1911 down the barrel you can see the firing pin hole and not the copper jacket of a bullet
I think the 1911 we see in the pilot is an M1911A1, which was designed in 1924. the difference between the M1911 and M1911A1 are subtle, but noticeable when compared side by side. For example, the M1911 has a long trigger and short spurs, while the M1911A1 has a short trigger and long spurs. Considering that Lackadaisy takes place in 1927, it is possible that it is an M1911A1, but I think it's best not to jump to conclusions until we get a good look at the gun when it's not in Mordecai's hand.
One cool thing to note is the Thompson's bolt properly locks forward on empty
*saws off front sight of the BAR*
Silly ahh voice I love it
The BAR was more of an automatic rifle forced into the role on a light machine gun like the Bren gun
Despite Hollywood infamy, due to the absurdly high price, the Thompson submachine gun was actually one of the worst selling guns of all time.
I heard it was 200 dollars in the 1920s which is now over 3,000 dollars now days
@@nova.exe87 yep, it's the reason why the National Firearms Act of 1934 set the tax stamps for short barreled rifles/shotguns, silencers, and machine guns at $200 dollars. To price gouge everyone out of buying them and barely sidestep the blatant unconstitutionality of an outright ban.
@@nova.exe87 yup. Even the British found it expensive when they used it in WW2. That’s why they made the STEN.
@@friendlym1rifleye sten was cheap atleast
So the pistol labeled the Colt 1908 Vest pocket pistol is actually what's called a Dreyse M1907 pistol. The main distinction is the underbarrel design and it's Austrian origin as Viktor (who in lore is from Austria) was likely the one who acquires most of Lackadaisy's weapons including this one. Weirdly it's a pistol known for shooting .32 ACP instead of a homegrown cartridge. That said I am no expert and just a guy who likes old antique stuff. All the guns in Lackadaisy are fun to see in this style and I enjoy it quite a bit.
its a vici pistol
aint no way you called freckle calvin
🤓Um actuallly his official name is Calvin🤓
Calvin "Freckle" McMurray, born March 10, 1909 in St. Charles Missouri.
Bruh -_-
Wait it is? cuz i just found the Lackadaisy pilot one day
@@partypinkvrgt yeah there's a whole web comic made way before the pilot, you can find his first and full name in the comic and the character section
I shot the Thompson gun before and they did it spot on with how it shoots
The BAR did not have a Bipod until 1945 .
If I remember correctly, Bonnie and Clyde were infamous for using the BAR in their crime spree. Or did they get shot by a BAR? I can't remember exactly.
I remember watching the movie about the people who hunted them, I don’t know how historically accurate it is but in the film I think they were done in by the BAR.
@@Awfulfeature If that is the case, that's a painful and bloody way to go, considering the BAR was chambered in 30-06.
@@PhantomRaider100 either they felt nothing or felt everything
@@Awfulfeature I'd hope it would be quick, cuz that would be incredibly painful if you survived getting shot by that kind of firepower.
Man those type C mags would be nightmare to reload
Drum-mags in general are Time consuming to load
At first I thought the Remington model 81 was used since that had a Police only conversion started production around the 1920s so that could be an alternative. But the BAR has that distinct blocky wooden grip and the Remington had a curved magazine so the BAR is still more similar. In the trailer it was stated the those drinks are outlawed so if those were police going after them then the Remington 81 would make sense even more, Mordecai gets called the chief too.
The revolver has a long barrel and could be multiple models dating back to the civil war if converted to centerfire
when i saw Calvin use the Thompson i knew he meant business knowing that it was infamous for destroying vehicles to the last scrap, im loving how well researched lackadaisy is and excited for more animated episodes
looks kinda like a scholfield at the shape of the frame of it 2:01 and cylander
Colt model M .32 was a real classic of the era and so was the browning 1900 and 1910 .models ..and it's common for the 1900 to be shiny nickel plated .. And cut down 1897 pump shotgun I'm surprised none made the cut for lackadaisy
fun fact: freckle didnt attach the stock to the thompson
at first I thought Nico was holding a C96 Mauser since you cant get a proper look at it though it could've easily been a good choice since guns used by Germany in both world wars were mostly used as "villan guns" like the p09 and the p38
I was waiting for such summary, thanks!
I think that freckles vest pocket pistol was inspired by the colt 1902 vest pocket pistol and either the Dryse pistol or the FN M1900
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I think that thing was used in ww2 a little bit but was replaced by the Thomson because the Tommy was to expensive
Im pretty sure Mordecai was aiming for Rocky but he missed and hit the side mirrors. If you watch closely you can see the mirror shatter as the car swirvs.
Was glad to see firearms that were correct to the era. So many movies, TV shows, even books get it wrong so many times.
I thought Nico's gun looked like a1920 Ruger. Plus you missed the scene were the construction site lights turn on. That's a better view of it
Perfect for a gun commercial
0:29
"TWO WORLD WAR
MUH STOPPING POWAH"
Finally, now I can use this as my Call of Duty loadout..
I like that they channel the lupin the third energy of having all the detailed vehicles and firearms
Thank you for the clarification. From the design of Serafine's gun, I thought it looked like a shotgun, but they were making it behave like an automatic rifle.
If anything it’s a miracle that the cars are so damn sturdy
The Lackadaisy car got like 20 mags worth of Bar ammo in the back and the Marigold car took a entire 100 round Thompson magazine
@@nova.exe87 can’t say I know much about how sturdy those old cars were but I’d bet the only place they could take a bullet or two would be if it hit the engine
The Thompson was also a World War II favorite among soldiers and marines fighting in both theatres, It was given to squad leaders, tankers and paratroopers during campaigns like the D Day landings in Normandy or the Battle Of The Bulge.
Also late in WWII the Thompson was replaced by cheaper M3 Grease Gun which was inexpensive to make which the Tommy Gun was 400$ during wartime production.
Ey the 25 Acp, was that Mitzi's "Pea Shooter" from the comic?
Cool voice and content!
The voice is just text to speech, but thank you for enjoying this video
Looks like the BAR may have had the barrel cut down clyde barrow style
i recognised 3 of them
so not half bad
Can you do one on the vehicles in Lackadaisy please?
I probably won’t because i don’t know anything about vehicles
@@nova.exe87 Cosmic and/or The Unlucky Tug may be able to help you
that voice i always fucking hear it and it sounds so goddamn familiar but i cant put my finger on where its from
You forgot the *dynamite* used by Rocky
It’s dynamite.
Does that include the industrial equipment he threw the dynamite from as well?
It's a standard explosive, not a gun
SUBBED to a fellow Gun Nerd!
I already identified these before way before this was uploaded