Thank GAWD you commented this bc I really was dying to know where this hat came from. Buying one for my husband right now and I swear he's gonna be giddy 🤩
Just about to hop on a flight. I was upset I couldn’t download a new pod I hadn’t listened to, so hyped that this dropped at the perfect time. Thanks guys!
Also worth noting for the Tesla layoffs is that they cut off a bunch of internships at the most a couple of weeks before a lot of them began. A lot of my friends just don’t have a job anymore. They were planning their flight to get there, had already spent money on apartments, and now have an apartment far from home with no use case.
I want to say a person thank you for talking about Bird Buddy. I bought it the second you mentioned it, for my wife, and she loves it. And you can share it with multiple people. So I can see when we get a new bird on my phone and her best friend and my best friend also gets the same notification. We had a bit of trouble with a high jumping squirrel but we hung it from a tree branch with a fish wire and it's fine now. She LOVES IT! Also, you can def have more than 2 people. Cause we have 3 people on it.
When Andrew did the dove call and David did the fart sounding 'pigeon call' I just about started crying laughing 🤣🤣 one of the funniest episodes yet. What a way to end the week
Could be hisense based on screensaver clock. I did order the boox palma to mimic his setup though. It doesn’t need to be flashed to have standard android.
I think it's difference cuz if they released an app then due to android restrictions they can't call an Uber for you or do anything like LAM does in rabbit r1 since Google doesn't let third part apps to control the whole OS which is good for privacy
@@SpongeBob_circle_pantsthe whole point of the rabbit is that doesn’t need OS access. It’s doing all those things on a server somewhere, simulating the buttons you would press on the actual webpage.
@@Roxas1711which can be done in an app. On a phone. They should sell the app and an orange phone case since apparently the average consumer is a moron for orange for some reason
I got into “birding” from using the Merlin Bird ID app from Cornell Labs! It uses audio to tell you what birds you’re hearing, what they look like, AND even playback those birds’ songs! The other night I was having a good back and forth with a Barred Owl. It was a hilariously good time. Definitely worth checking out!!
Ellis, what e-reader are you using? I’ve been doing a similar thing with two phones for a few months now and I’m really interested in trying your approach out
@@ellisrovinGood! I need more details. I’m big into comics so I have been considering the Kobo Libra Colour as an option to really cut down on doom-scrolling
I've been building the same habit in the last 6 years but it's used to be hit or miss cause the clunky ui and ads till I found readera. Btw if you got an issue with reading a pdf format, I highly reccomend wps office! well the lite version.. that used to me my biggest turn off of reading the only existence of the book on pdf format
I love your content so much. I don't have YT Premium so I usually listen to podcast on a Podcast app but I also open your TH-cam Video for few minutes as well, just to add to your views.
My dad told me when I read a kid the "X" in Xbox stands for "Extreme". This was a time when we got the very first Xbox, the original Xbox. I love my dad so much, I wish he was still here. That portion of this podcast made me remember that time me and my dad enjoyed with our Xbox
I agree with Marques on the YT shorts issue. While I agree that having a longer limit would make creating shorts easier, the challenge to make them fit under 60 seconds can be good for creativity. Many times I've reluctantly trimmed parts of my shorts to make them fit the timeframe, only to prefer the shorter edit when considering adding the cut parts back in for a longer, regular yt video. I've also sometimes made multipart shorts, which I understand doesn't quite work when the viewer is scrolling through shorts and doesn't have the context of the earlier parts, but at least you can now add a link to a "related video" so the viewer can, if they want, go back on the chain of parts.
1:21:05 Birdicus Trashicus 😢 Poor pigeons. They are actually extremely useful and were used for sending messages internationally. That's how useful they were. They could always find their way back home even after years.
I think Andrew would like the iNaturalist app, you take a picture of any living being and it shows you the species that should match and other information. I like doing it with bugs and spiders mostly
My teacher has a competition going on in class where we have to go out and recognize birds for points and if we get a picture we get 2 points but there is this app where it uses your phone mic to listen for birds and if we get one from that app we get half a point and its actually pretty fun so I encourage people to go birding after listening to the podcast or whenever. Also that app is called Merlin.
27:34 this is probably an issue with preprompts, when the rabbit puts the user information and location related information into the model context to generate a response, they should make sure the model understands what type of information was given and how it was collected. that way the model can answer your question accurately
I disagree with the 'carrying a dedicated camera' equivalency because with a camera, the key difference is the hardware, specifically the lenses size and variability. With these devices the key part is all information. Just like the example of a real life personal assistant, the are more effective at their job the more knowledge about you, your preferences and your timetables they have.
Bird buddy is sweet I’ve had mine for a year. Solar roof still going strong I’ve never charged it. Different feed will attract different birds! Surprising amount that change throughout the year!
1:04:51 That screeching sound happens with my airpods Pro ALL THE TIME when the noise cancelling is on, and i touch it with the tip of my finger covering it and pressing a bit.
I'm with David. Ban short form content. Make the barrier to entry higher, there won't be an endless stream of trash because people will actually have to TRY to make engaging content
i saw David's review of the R1. when he got to the part of 'things he would change to make it better', my immediate thought was "Rabbit R1 Pro? Rabbit R2?"
Has Ellis explained in depth his setup with the e-reader and why he's pursued that? If not, I'd love a studio video on it. Not enough content for a "long"? Eh, maybe you can make a 2-minute video. Definitely horizontal though.
18:31 "adding new features to things we already use is a great way to get people to adopt that thing" i really hadn't thought about it this way before, but now that i think about it, i'm realizing the truth of this idea. everything we use these days came from a conceptually simpler version of it
8:58 - Tesla can now outsourcing their charger infrastructure costs to third parties. If everyone is using Tesla ports, then new stations will support Tesla vehicles. Once the major manufacturers switch to Tesla's Supercharger port, they'll have to build their own infrastructure to manage the increased congestion and traffic at Tesla Stations.
45:34 Apple has done a lot to improve Siri surprisingly. The way it’s currently implemented is that every “action” siri can do is handwritten and takes 6 months to a year to implement due to all the edge cases testing. The benefit of moving Siri to an LLMs (coming iOS 18?) is that it can be taught what tools are available, what they do, and the format in the system prompt. From there, it can apply those tools more dynamically as it determines necessary
I think from perspective of Rabbit it makes sense to make it a device: 1) someone needs to pay for cloud, so the app would not be free. And people hate paying for apps that are broken, plus a device is easier to market as mentioned. They would not have the same reach without. 2) Relying on APIs is not part of their vision and they rely on user training. If R1 was an app on the phone it might know a bit more about you if you gave it permissions, but it would not solve the interoperability problem fully. While if the user purchases the device, they might be incentivised to spend more time with it and train it. I agree that it should be an app, but for the first product the strategy is understandable.
Just a heads up I have the nothing Ear and they updated transparency mode on it and makes it so much better. I can now tell when transparency mode is on
The fact that there’s no blue jay in thumbnail is DISAPPOINTING!!!
This.
I did not get it
Edit: got it in 2:00
what do you mean? It's definitely there :)
@Waveform oof
It's there!
Petition to add the blue jay to the thumbnail.
it's already there what do you mean
Nuh uh @@Waveform
It is now 😂@@umesh6856
@@umesh6856 top right corner of thumbnail yo 🐦
@@Waveform i checked every corner of the thumbnail man. Still couldn't find it. I'm from India, if that makes any difference.
Morning Dove
It's actually "mourning dove" - because their distinctive call sounds sort of sad.
This bird is way more beautiful. Also its Mourning Dove
Pigeon
I thought they were owls.
Doves all the way
When you're scrolling your TH-cam homepage and stumble upon Andrew wearing your hat??? Day made🔥
🫡
Thank GAWD you commented this bc I really was dying to know where this hat came from. Buying one for my husband right now and I swear he's gonna be giddy 🤩
Oh NVM it's out of stock 🙃🫠🥹🦝
Marques be like "You need 1080p for that crispy plumage"
MKBHD knows his HD
Andrew: Respected Pigeon call
David: NYC Pigeon Call
Bird people are gonna be like “SQWUAK!!” is peak comedy that needs more appreciation
Just about to hop on a flight. I was upset I couldn’t download a new pod I hadn’t listened to, so hyped that this dropped at the perfect time. Thanks guys!
It's finally the weekend in the UK (Long weekend!) Which again always starts with the Waveform! Thank you guys as always
Also worth noting for the Tesla layoffs is that they cut off a bunch of internships at the most a couple of weeks before a lot of them began. A lot of my friends just don’t have a job anymore. They were planning their flight to get there, had already spent money on apartments, and now have an apartment far from home with no use case.
Never trust Elon Musk ✨
@@Kurre.Yeah, because Tesla is the only company laying people off. 🤣🤣🤣
@@hyperactiv8elon got around $50 billion when these layoffs happened....
19:10 I would like to point out the hilarious “sir that’s a wendys” joke that andrew did, which nobody noticed
This is super corny but I love silly episodes like this. To see guys my age having fun working together makes me feel normal these days haha
Both the content and the vibe on this show is top tier. Always a pleasure to tune in!
I want to say a person thank you for talking about Bird Buddy. I bought it the second you mentioned it, for my wife, and she loves it. And you can share it with multiple people. So I can see when we get a new bird on my phone and her best friend and my best friend also gets the same notification. We had a bit of trouble with a high jumping squirrel but we hung it from a tree branch with a fish wire and it's fine now. She LOVES IT!
Also, you can def have more than 2 people. Cause we have 3 people on it.
Watching this pod in Australia, I end up watching on Saturday mornings. I just realised that you guys are my new "Saturday Disney" haha
well. the longer joke made me to like this instantly
Yeah!
This
When Andrew did the dove call and David did the fart sounding 'pigeon call' I just about started crying laughing 🤣🤣 one of the funniest episodes yet. What a way to end the week
Reallll
Every youtube short I make has exactly two valuable sentences cut out because I’m not allowed 90 seconds like I am on reels
(And then 90% of the comments are talking about the thing I had to cut out)
It's a matter of time until they switch to longer videos and then immediately encourage everyone to only post longer videos
@@internetshaquillethat sounds like an engagement hack.
@@internetshaquille hi, I love your channel! You helped me learn to wash dishes and make red chile sauce!
Then make it slightly shorter? If they are crucial and they are at the very end it sounds stretched anyway
All I want to hear about is Ellis’ e-reader smartphone-hotspot setup now. It looks like Onyx Boox Palma, did you flash the firmware?
Same, I need the deets!
Could be hisense based on screensaver clock. I did order the boox palma to mimic his setup though. It doesn’t need to be flashed to have standard android.
@@jimmcclarty update us on how it goes. I'm tempted to do the same
The Verge called the rabbit r1 'Bad Bunny' and I CANNOT stop thinking about it 😭😭
🤣
😂
Is bad bunny a reference to something?
@@ChristofferLundI believe there’s a rapper named Bad Bunny and the rabbit r1 is essentially a bunny gone bad
@@i_izzzzzz24 or the bunny itself is a innuendo like bunny hole...
Great show guys, this just keeps getting better. Quickly becoming one of my favorites.
I wonder how Rabbit will handle the fact that they sold an app and a simplified and buggy phone for $200
I think it's difference cuz if they released an app then due to android restrictions they can't call an Uber for you or do anything like LAM does in rabbit r1 since Google doesn't let third part apps to control the whole OS which is good for privacy
They weren't going to sell many of these stupid boxes anyway.
I think they knew when building the hardware that there was nothing special about the device.
@@SpongeBob_circle_pantsthe whole point of the rabbit is that doesn’t need OS access. It’s doing all those things on a server somewhere, simulating the buttons you would press on the actual webpage.
@@Roxas1711which can be done in an app. On a phone. They should sell the app and an orange phone case since apparently the average consumer is a moron for orange for some reason
I got into “birding” from using the Merlin Bird ID app from Cornell Labs! It uses audio to tell you what birds you’re hearing, what they look like, AND even playback those birds’ songs!
The other night I was having a good back and forth with a Barred Owl. It was a hilariously good time. Definitely worth checking out!!
Agreed was using the app today in Uk ❤
Rabbit's app is what should be running on the outside screen on a flippable folding phone.
Thank god yall posted on time this week. This podcast is where I get all my opinions from.
Ellis, what e-reader are you using? I’ve been doing a similar thing with two phones for a few months now and I’m really interested in trying your approach out
Boox Palma! It's going to be making an appearance on The Studio channel soon
@@ellisrovinGood! I need more details. I’m big into comics so I have been considering the Kobo Libra Colour as an option to really cut down on doom-scrolling
I've been building the same habit in the last 6 years but it's used to be hit or miss cause the clunky ui and ads till I found readera.
Btw if you got an issue with reading a pdf format, I highly reccomend wps office! well the lite version.. that used to me my biggest turn off of reading the only existence of the book on pdf format
I screamed "DIRECTX" at my screen like 20 times
Waveform podcast a little early today. Guess it's Dinner time ... 🥗
✨️ hi david
✨
Rabbit and their CEO have sketchy history before the r1 you guys should look into it
I love your content so much. I don't have YT Premium so I usually listen to podcast on a Podcast app but I also open your TH-cam Video for few minutes as well, just to add to your views.
The last 15 minutes of the podcast felt like a fever dream
My dad told me when I read a kid the "X" in Xbox stands for "Extreme". This was a time when we got the very first Xbox, the original Xbox.
I love my dad so much, I wish he was still here. That portion of this podcast made me remember that time me and my dad enjoyed with our Xbox
One positive note...It has no ads...yet
🐦 the banter in this episode 😆👌🏽
Last week later, this week earlier. There is no schedule for Waveform, must always be ready.
I agree with Marques on the YT shorts issue. While I agree that having a longer limit would make creating shorts easier, the challenge to make them fit under 60 seconds can be good for creativity. Many times I've reluctantly trimmed parts of my shorts to make them fit the timeframe, only to prefer the shorter edit when considering adding the cut parts back in for a longer, regular yt video.
I've also sometimes made multipart shorts, which I understand doesn't quite work when the viewer is scrolling through shorts and doesn't have the context of the earlier parts, but at least you can now add a link to a "related video" so the viewer can, if they want, go back on the chain of parts.
the rails went crazy
😂
54:00 90 seconds is pushing it, past that the line that divides the app clearly from short form and long form gets blurrier
Sounds like we need Shorts, Mids, and Longs
Definitely my favorite group of people making a podcast!
Favorite part of this ep is where they discuss Pigeon V Boxes. You just can't get that kind of insight anywhere else!
my favorite bird podcast
The Nexus 5 orange was a similar color. Haven't seen the rabbit in person yet though.
1:21:05 Birdicus Trashicus 😢
Poor pigeons. They are actually extremely useful and were used for sending messages internationally. That's how useful they were. They could always find their way back home even after years.
I think Andrew would like the iNaturalist app, you take a picture of any living being and it shows you the species that should match and other information. I like doing it with bugs and spiders mostly
I love it when the guys go off the rails, it's the best comedy ever! And I got the first two trivia questions right--I'm a genius!!!
Does anyone else get excited for the post credit short? Also, Team Pigeon.
My teacher has a competition going on in class where we have to go out and recognize birds for points and if we get a picture we get 2 points but there is this app where it uses your phone mic to listen for birds and if we get one from that app we get half a point and its actually pretty fun so I encourage people to go birding after listening to the podcast or whenever. Also that app is called Merlin.
No blue jay in thumbnail
Edit: its there now lol
27:34 this is probably an issue with preprompts, when the rabbit puts the user information and location related information into the model context to generate a response, they should make sure the model understands what type of information was given and how it was collected. that way the model can answer your question accurately
Andrew repping the Trash Panda hat?! When is the collab episode on The Studio channel?
Best part of the show is when you all go off the rails, please keep it up
I disagree with the 'carrying a dedicated camera' equivalency because with a camera, the key difference is the hardware, specifically the lenses size and variability. With these devices the key part is all information. Just like the example of a real life personal assistant, the are more effective at their job the more knowledge about you, your preferences and your timetables they have.
Bird buddy is sweet I’ve had mine for a year. Solar roof still going strong I’ve never charged it. Different feed will attract different birds! Surprising amount that change throughout the year!
32:10 that's relationship goal right there man
You folks are darn cute
1:04:51
That screeching sound happens with my airpods Pro ALL THE TIME when the noise cancelling is on, and i touch it with the tip of my finger covering it and pressing a bit.
I did not see the bird on thumbnail wow
The trivia at the end is absolute comedy gold
Team Pigeon 👏👏
Awesome Podcast Guy's. Andrew great app.So Beautiful to catch up with Nature.Thanks for sharing Enjoyed. 💯✌️
I'm with David. Ban short form content. Make the barrier to entry higher, there won't be an endless stream of trash because people will actually have to TRY to make engaging content
i saw David's review of the R1. when he got to the part of 'things he would change to make it better', my immediate thought was "Rabbit R1 Pro? Rabbit R2?"
You really need to start fixing the trivia timestamps, they're wrong in almost every episode
Me: Wow, Birdbuddy sounds super cool!
Podcast: 1080p video requires a subscription
Me: Nevermind
Pigeon
Love the bird calls. Morning doves
Has Ellis explained in depth his setup with the e-reader and why he's pursued that? If not, I'd love a studio video on it.
Not enough content for a "long"? Eh, maybe you can make a 2-minute video. Definitely horizontal though.
18:31 "adding new features to things we already use is a great way to get people to adopt that thing" i really hadn't thought about it this way before, but now that i think about it, i'm realizing the truth of this idea. everything we use these days came from a conceptually simpler version of it
I'm glad the intro music is finally starting at the beginning of the musical phrase
The best part of the podcast happened at the end! And Pigeon!
Im relatively early, but the intro is already such a banger
Anyone know what the eReader/ eInk phone was at 1:01:02?
Boox Palma
The one good reason to make YT shorts 90 seconds is so that Instagram reel creators who use the full 90 seconds there can just reupload here
I watch/listen to all podcasts to finish ..especially the dog with a beanie 😂
It’s a DirectX reference! Come onnn. 😂
Have been thinking of getting a bird buddy for a long time since I love birdwatching. Might have to finally take the plunge. That app is so cool.
Also try isopropyl alcohol on the connecters to fix the issue with charging. It might work.
8:58 - Tesla can now outsourcing their charger infrastructure costs to third parties. If everyone is using Tesla ports, then new stations will support Tesla vehicles.
Once the major manufacturers switch to Tesla's Supercharger port, they'll have to build their own infrastructure to manage the increased congestion and traffic at Tesla Stations.
45:34 Apple has done a lot to improve Siri surprisingly. The way it’s currently implemented is that every “action” siri can do is handwritten and takes 6 months to a year to implement due to all the edge cases testing. The benefit of moving Siri to an LLMs (coming iOS 18?) is that it can be taught what tools are available, what they do, and the format in the system prompt. From there, it can apply those tools more dynamically as it determines necessary
V-box and David’s hand squirts made this episode awesome.
Chill vibe on this one. Looking forward to the next. Peace
37:30 Samsung has Bixby offline running for quiet sometime now. Though it can not do all the actions but works fine for basic tasks.
I really love this podcast it makes me feel idk connected? it makes me feel less lonely
I think from perspective of Rabbit it makes sense to make it a device:
1) someone needs to pay for cloud, so the app would not be free. And people hate paying for apps that are broken, plus a device is easier to market as mentioned. They would not have the same reach without.
2) Relying on APIs is not part of their vision and they rely on user training. If R1 was an app on the phone it might know a bit more about you if you gave it permissions, but it would not solve the interoperability problem fully. While if the user purchases the device, they might be incentivised to spend more time with it and train it.
I agree that it should be an app, but for the first product the strategy is understandable.
Are y’all going to talk about the Ring lawsuit on the next podcast?
Thanks for adding the blue jay to the thumbnail 🙏
David holding the Rabbit R1 in his hand talking casually about it while I'm there looking at it like I'm jalous it's not in MY hand XD
55:00 you'll always need a little more time. The limit makes you make hard choices. And that is not necessarily a bad thing
@Ellis, where can I find out more about your e-reader/hotspot set up??
@Davidimel 1:01:12 slowly dying got me! 😂
I don't get many trivia questions right, but i was yelling Angry Birds at my TV. Just seemed like the right time frame.
Just a heads up I have the nothing Ear and they updated transparency mode on it and makes it so much better. I can now tell when transparency mode is on
51:02 I disabled TH-cam Shorts in the TH-cam app. Also, I have an add-on to open TH-cam Shorts as a normal video tab in my browser.
How? Are you using vanced, or is there a 1st party solution?
@@filiphaj2947 a mod
41:00 yes, dumbphone, EXACTLY that
Will you guys be looking at the 01 Light by Open Interpreter? Or have you done so already?
3:53 Andrew just Dakota Johnson'ed the entire MKBHD studio with the bird feeder link
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I laughed out loud many times this episode 😂❤
1:26:08 marques immediately cringing at the potential memeing of “V-box” 😭😭
YOOO! you said like and the like button glowed!