How Did Ancient Civilizations Begin Mapping The Globe? | Face Of The World | Odyssey
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- They may be a given today but in the past maps were power. Understanding your surroundings has given civilizations the edge in trade, conquest and wars, but how did these civilizations begin mapping their surroundings?
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- How ominous and prevailing you want that main theme to be?
- Yes.
That background music is very ominous: BEWARE THE MAP!!!
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lol "mapmaker, mapmaker make me a map...$
They used the STARS . Seriously it would have been fairly straightforward for people who could ,for instance, cross the Sahara. I don’t understand why we are so baffled by their ability to get around. They built Stonehenge. Pyramids. They must have been able to read the stars.
As did (and still do) the Polynesians, most of us know about our ancient navigators in this part of the world, and their knowledge of the stars, but this show said they just 'described' their way around the ocean. Strange
Heaven knows how long it took to learn to read stars
@costicle123 - Are you seriously saying that if you know how to get around by using the stars then that's all you need to know in order to make a map? The title of this video isn't the question as to how humans learned to navigate. It's the question "how did humans learn to make maps?". Without extensive further discussion, I would be extremely reluctant to believe that "enough knowledge to get to places" is the same thing as "enough knowledge to show where places are on a map".
@@DeirdreGreen I believe that the Polynesians used not only stars but features of ocean swells that they recorded on their stick-charts. I have no idea exactly now do to that. If anyone from Manhattan's Museum of Natural History is reading this, you have a stick-chart or two in a case where the captions look like they were typed decades ago, and relate an erroneous description of their use (as marking out only islands and the night sky, omitting the features of ocean-water) that has been superseded by later research.
@costicle123 - I don't believe it's "stars" but "star". The North Star if you're moving around in the Northern Hemisphere (or whatever star it was that the Earth's axis pointed up to from the Earth's North Pole if you were moving around many 10s of thousands of years ago and it wasn't, as it is today, Polaris), or the equivalent star at zenith above the South Pole if you're moving in the Southern Hemisphere. Whichever one of those two that you can see is the only star that does you any good, pretty much. The other stars are always moving, so you can't use them for setting a direction. However, once you HAVE traveled, you CAN use "the stars" to figure out where you've gotten to.
Fascinating
awesome video
I really enjoy these Docus! Thank You, TH-cam, once again!❤
Excellent documentary, as always. Thank you Odyssey.
This documentary is very good. It reminded me that when I was a child I hated Geography. Grown man I accidentally fell in love and married a geographer. Marriage and marital life made me start to like my wife's science. And the passion for Geography proved to be more lasting than my own marriage.
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Ancient Polynesians navigated by reading the stars, as they still do today. You imply their knowledge was limited to descriptive accounts but it was (and is) mainly knowledge of the stars.
Still just descriptions heard from somewhere it's not written down or drawn they learned from one another.... and their navigatino indeed is limited to the surrounding sea and islands....
Glad the sound improved. ❤
At 1:15:30 "...from all corners of the globe..." 🤣
its a known saying and might be based on the compass points, in many languages they can be referred to as 'corners'.
Not as bad as when flat earthers talk about their global conspiracy.... lol
@@voodoochild1975az ghehehe.
There are about a billion of them now.
@@KosmiekAltertainment still sounds like " on wich corner of the roundabout are you waiting?"
Did you know a compassie will not work on a globe ?
Excellent video content on the first navigation maps worldwide. Greetings from Europe BE.
49:55 New Virginia? No such name ever existed, as far as I know.
Outstanding documentary, though. (And one cannot expect the gent to know every single spot on the globe.)
Hiya Joel, massive respect to you Sir, I'm so interested in all that you share, your thoughts knowledge and experience are priceless. Please ignore negative folk, there are some strange trolls,. Your videos are fantastic, every one of your videos have golden nuggets, I have learnt much from you and hope to replicate your work, all the best to you and everyone, am always eager to see your next video and rewatch previous ones, you are an inspiration and herald for a massive grass roots change, but don't let that go to your head. Stay focused and grounded, your work is most important. Thankyou for all you share
Gosh maps are interesting.
Very well done, thank you very much for this. Is this part of a series, and if so, where can I see the list of episodes so I can follow them in order. I'm learning more here than I did in school!
It´s a German TV production by ZDF "Das Gesicht der Welt" within the series TerraX, each of the 3 docu show is 45min
@@earlofcruisegw1727 Thank you.
@@earlofcruisegw1727 German? I can hear the self hate.
@tinusvandeventer6430 That was a strange/rude thing to say. I didn't read any self hate in the response. Of course Germany has a semi recent dark history, but, unless this person was alive and supported it, why should they have self hate?!
I'm guessing you're American. So am I. We have our own deeply horrific past. Ever heard of the Trail of Tears? The US oversaw a mass genocide of Native Americans among many other atrocities throughout our own past. I have no self hate over that though, as I had nothing to do with it, and would actively fight against it given the chance.
This person should have to self hate for the exact same reasons.
I wonder if they ever thought that " in thousands of years our ancestors will be interested in this stuff." with a far superior vocabulary.
around 38:00 'birth of slavery' huh, sorry, slavery has been around for thousands and thousands of years. A comment by a roman citizen (100 bc) found recently " my most valued desire is my blue eyed blonde slave". Irish, brits, welsh, & scots were kidnapped put into slavery and sold at the roman slave markets many years before the portuguese landed in africa. That is a fact.
Nice documentary. And very interesting, but the narratives that sound definitive "birth of slavery' - I have to add my comments back. Thank you again for this documentary.
As well as the Middle Eastern and African very well established slave trade thousands of years before the Portuguese AND the Romans... the Romans used conquered civilians to build on land accumulated from wars... Italy was built completely by slaves under the Roman power.
It is the only narrative that is allowed to be put forward today. "People of color", all under the same comb.. , cannot be mentioned in such connections...
Lots of bs in this one!
It would be so amazing if someone could capture and integrate the breadth of Eastern knowledge into this account, which is as usual Eurocentric. Chinese cartography began in the 5th century BC during the Warring States period when cartographers started to make maps of the Earth's surface. Bronze Age Indus Valley civilization (c. 2500-1900 BCE) may have known "cartographic activity" based on a number of excavated surveying instruments and measuring rods and that the use of large scale constructional plans, cosmological drawings, and cartographic material was known in India with some regularity since the Vedic period. Sea routes have existed since antiquity all across the Indian Ocean.
blogs.loc.gov/loc/2021/08/the-islamic-world-map-of-1154/
Ya, they left out the exploration, maps, and travel stories of about 99% of human history and cultures. I had to stop watching after 7 minutes.
@@lindareed8265 same
Came here to say this. This doc is incredibly whitewashed. Not that the info within isn't correct for what it is, but lacking global context, it's more propaganda than history.
@@lindareed8265 No one cares 🤡
God bless you and your work ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Did they mix two documentations? One claims noone knows how they found their way, but the other explains how they did it ^^
The documentations back then sometimes... or actually a lot of times stated the exact opposites of each other. Since no actual period correct sources left for us from that early times so the later civilisations wrote about sources which was retold like a game of telephone and some sources stated this story of the story of an old story as true, but we actually don't know it how it happened the navigation the mappings etc...at all so that's why we have different explanations which contradict each other the overly optimistic ones that all ancient stories are true the other pessimistic and more realist ones that we don't know anything about them. You know stories and reality isn't the same, one or two years back we didn't even actually seen a well preserved wreck of roman on greek ship around or earlier than the 1st century AD. The best preserved and oldest ones we found are the ottoman ones which are quite new 14th century and onwards so hard to believe stories of navigatino and surviving the raging sea if we don't even know how those ships were actually built. We only had vague pictures of them from mosaics and paintings and figures on amphoras that's all.
The music overrides the narrative making it too difficult to understand.
The Portuguese recently claimed Columbus as a native son, from Cuba, Portugal.
And being of a 'swarthy' , Moorish, complexion.
@@tabascoraremaster1He was a crypto Jew.
It's amazing that the first globe...is supposedly dated to 1490...a bit early one might think.
We have known the earth is a sphere since at least the 2nd century BC.... so no... not at all
Why ?
@@Ian-mj4pt ah....'first' travel officially west from Europe was 1492...world was supposed to be flat.
@@markgarin6355It's a myth that people didn't know the world was round in the 15th century. Was it widely known? Doubtful. Your average uneducated illiterate farmer didn't know a lot of things. But it was definitely known among scientists and scholars and had been known for a very long time. Eratosthenes figured out the circumference of the planet nearly 2,000 years.
@@markgarin6355 If your parents paid for your education, I'm sure they can get a full refund.
It is so intriguing that humans invented maps and globes with the earth's surface modeled thereon. This is an aerial view hundreds of years before humans were actually able to observe from that perspective. It is a remarkable feat of imagination to think of mapping as we know it at all without seeing it.
"But its wrong to call this the Dark Ages. Scholars know that the Earth is round" Well. they're already doing better than some people on the internet.
If the Vinland map was a forgery, why show it? I cut my teeth on 1/50,000. Reading maps is an art. Super enjoyable
Because it is a significant piece of European cartography. Not mentioning it would be like talking about paper currency without ever mentioning forged bank notes.
@@SmithMrCorona they ARE collectible that’s for sure
@@enterthecarp7085 sometimes the forgery sells for more than the OG, especially if the story behind it is interesting. Considering this particular forgery is in a Yale museum, I'd say it's worth a pretty penny.
@@SmithMrCorona Significant how? If it is a forgery from the 20th century how can it in any way be significant in the historiography of mapmaking? At best some decades where scholars was confused about it.
@@scipioafricanus5871 It's a part of the historic record, and influenced thought at the time, so therefore it is significant.
2:23 trade routes
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Hey everyone viewers and creator how's everyone doing tonight history check good book on split screen lets goooooooooo.....
I absolutely love this, but I find it really disturbing to have the translation going on with the original language in the background. It’s just too much for my brain 😂
10:00... No mention of taking African Slaves to Arabia and India in exchange for those spices.
because its a video about maps, not slavery.
So slavery is ok then, what's your point
Or is it Christian God is ok with slavery too...?
@@alansiebert7029 ok let's stop with the false equivalencies. I am anti-slavery. However, this video is about maps, so I get why it isn't really mentioned. One thought does not cancel the other out. Don't be so one-dimensional, your brain has enough room for more than one opinion
@@alansiebert7029 you're assuming people are christian xD buddy im not religious at all in any sense. its a fuckin video about how maps came to be. slaves have fuck all to do with that.
they did not "scratch in clay"! they put in wet clay what they wanted and let it dry. That is the entire point of clay over stone. Only important, high level stuff was actually baked. Either survive easily to this day.
try putting a circle in stone with a chisel...
Yet people have been navigating 10s of thousands of year's no different to land trade routes the Silk road being a classic example
Sea routes often followed the coast line just as the vikings travelled to north America via Iceland and green land and canada
Sextants are useful only for latitude, without chronometers and tables. No mention of the Harrison H4 and other chronometers which solved this issue. Disappointing.
38:30... Again no mention of the Arabs transporting slaves hundreds of years before the Europeans.
Thousands* of years
@@Cunning.Stunt7it’s really not, stop trying to correct everyone, maybe touch some grass.
Your forgetting about the Viking slave trade. They were Europeans. And depended heavily on slave trade. As did my people, the Dutch. But that was later on. Fun things is, many Dutch, and Western Europeans were kidnapped by Arabic slave traders. Being slave traders themselves they became pirates, Arabic slave traders or tried to get ransom money from their home towns. Sometimes enough to start up a whole new branch of slave trade.
@junk_DNA Oh how silly you will feel when you research the Arab slave trade... 🙄 the castration of boy slaves, eunuchs, could never reproduce.
Well-established for thousands of years.
@@Hooibeest2D.. I was referring to the totally false thinking that Europeans went into Africa to get slaves rather than getting them from Africans that had been seeking them to Arabs long before.
Sure, cool whatever you think professor!!
I've got my own version of this history of mapping.
And since you forgot so much in your not so accurate version.
Here's some additional info.
The Roman empire was followed up by the church and obviously they had might through half of Europe and thus maps.
The Vikings went around Europe and had Cristian maps of Britain and Mediterranean maps. That's logical.
You forgot about the scientific findings of the Muslim world. They were pretty advanced in math and mapping.
Even the Egyptians and Romans knew the world was round, mathematician also knew. Since there have been several accounts of measuring shadows at noon in ancient Egypt, Rome etc.
The Hanze coastal maps??
James Cook was inspired by the Dutch. Who discovered Australia, Tasmania, new Sealand, Easter Island, mapped the Hudson etc etc.
The Dutch inventions like the Mercator's projection on maps and globes. From Gerard Mercator?
The first atlases produced by Willem Blaeu, who were used by James Cook??
The Danish Tycho Brahe??
If this professor is still alive can someone teach him this stuff?? Thanks! I'm a gardener so I'm too busy with important things.
Too funny lol
Wait till winter sets in then you can really let him have it 😂❤
Even the things you mention are very recent. Actual oldest map is thought to be either one that's from 6200BCE or one from 10,000BCE. These guys are quacks. Maybe the only book they've read is the Odyssey.
Better stay a gardener because you wouldn't make a living being a historian you 🤡🤡 all what you blabbering about is waay newer the mercator maps earliest iteration is 1569 and the portugals started mapping the world in 1450 onward so a good 110-119 years earlier james cook??? late 1700s so hundrds of years later 1768 to be exact tycho brahe mostly was a crook a bon vivant but he was an astronomer not really much to do making sea maps and such does it. You should go back to school or just stick with gardening... Even this outdated documentary is better than the horseshłt you spew out a tleast this one keeps timeline in mind unlike you...
"Mapmaker, mapmaker make me a map."
Drives me bonkers how this channel automatically plays after watching Michelle Gibson, FEB, and other alternative history channels.
Only 4 min passed of this video, and there is an error. They say "the Sumerians new the geography of their empire 5000 years ago" - all good so far . Then, " The map is scratched on clay. It was made 600 years before Christ". Well, the Sumerians lasted until arund 1700 BC. And then in the next phrase they take us back in time to 2300 BC in Babylon. Did they mean to say the clay map was made "6000 years before Crist?"
Overall interesting to watch.
That's easy to answer.
Our Ancient Alien teachers took primitive humans up in their UFOs so they could see Earth's geography.
However, the drawing skills of primitive humans were really bad, so their maps looked really distorted.
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What is missing is that Magellan discovered the Pacific route via South America first in the 1500s?..by accident ..and was killed there.
The Phoenicians had traversed the Globe for 1000 years pre- Ferdinand Magellan..
But this is an IndoEuropean Mainstream History "Version".
27:28 "He never goes to sea himself."
That's a odd thing to say about a Portuguese, and nobody ever claimed this about Henry the Navigator. In fact as a young prince he famously takes part in the conquest of Ceuta, which could only be reached by sea. What's meant is he stays in Portugal when he sends his captains out to explore the coast of Africa and the Atlantic Islands. Sloppy research or sloppy writing, like much of the video.
How did the best navy ever not know what lied directly “west” of them?
Because they 'lied' lol.
You should try reaching half the distance of the ocean with a modern boat and a gps, then tell me why they didnt know
Because open ocean sailing wasn't the norm. Most expeditions hugged coast lines.
All the excavated historical and archeological places that is fit for human settlement, should be rebuilt as close to the original structures. Then the chosen inhabitants that can give life to that settlements, could provide an even more intertaining experience to tourists coming to see the places. It would help in job creation world wide. Most importantly, the chosen habitants should be willing to live of gridd, with solar. There are many archeological places across the planet, thus it's important to also learn people how to live self sustainable in all conditions.
haa !!! you do amuse
Willem Janszoon discovered australia from a european perspective.
Later van Diemen.
And probably even the portuguese before that.
Before that probably the chinese.
Not Cook.
This overlapping audio is honestly not good.
Deserts aur Sea mein sabse jayada dikat hogi nahin?.😊
How did the Ancients understand about stars existing inside a cube.
⏳👉? Walking along the Dell line looks 🌌
How did the ancients map antartica and artic that Really boggles the mind. Franklin's expedition failed trying to navigate the northern passage all died of hunger and or iron poison from iron canned food. Admunsen was a bad dude. He even beat scot to the pole back and forth. Scot and his comrads died on way back after they made it but saw Norwegian flag at the pole 1st. Great documentaries. He even had a meteorologist ahead of his time predict the weather. But that year it was a freak of nature. and they died of frost bite and exhausted. Wind was blowing opposite way and slays we're like pulling tons of rock. Highly recommend the watch .
What do you mean "understand"?
Objectively looking at it, the "stars" as pin pricks of light are easy to figure out. They are always in the sky at particular point throughout the years. If you have curious minds, and look up at the night sky night after night, you can easily figure it out. Whether those stars are in a "cube", or dome, etc, etc, didn't matter - they all still could be used as a guide.
What they didn't get was that each star is a solar system, and each star is similar to our sun (in some form). That idea wouldn't occur to humans (on the record, at least), until much later.
maybe it was aliens from outer space
There is no evidence that ancients mapped the polar caps.
❤della África costantinopoli diventa il centro Dell cristianización del balcani Goti ,e slavi,
And add two minutes and 30 seconds in. Moving on.
The Pacific Islanders are what amaze me. Who the fuck would get in a boat and just go?
Yes. Very good. But raises more questions than it answers. If people like the Vikings and Polynesians had some sort of verbal knowledge there must have been explorers before them ! I imagine the Romans and Greeks must have depended somewhat on maybe Persian cartography and road systems
These "historians" have completely ignored the fact that humans have been exploring and conveying geographical knowledge since we first started roaming Africa.
Linda. I am a historian! I enjoyed the documentary but I had more fundamental questions! Even to have concepts of direction implies some pre knowledge?
The ancient Polynesians navigated by the stars, they still do. School children learn that here in New Zealand.
Sonehow a map of anta tic land WAS CREATED SHOWING THE LAND ENEATH THE ICE
FYI
A lot was said that had to be said.
As far as the worldwide exploitation of non-Europeans goes, it's a ghastly legacy.
Yawn
Before that the non-Europeans only had each other to exploit. So sad. 😂
Many 1000's would have perished just setting sail and preying for good luck The charts would have come 1000s year after all the guessing and deaths.
The hilarious thing about this 'age of information' is how everyone is a self-appointed expert now on everything cuz of something they heard on Reddit.
(1523) conflitti dé religiones -1621) la formación di stati aristocratici tra Polonia e svezia 😮gustavo(ll) il último re danese (1534) guerra per il patrimonio económico😊
Indeed, my lady. I agree
Even worse, they completely ignored the chart of Juan de la Cosa, showing the he east coast of the American continent which was made before Balboa had found the pacific crossing the panama istmos. Juan de la cosa was the owner of the sSanta Maria and sailed with Colon on his first voyage and several other times.
Graham Hancock knows
Ummm,ink?
The land of Thule. If you live there the stars turn like a wheel. Sounds cognate.
I'm under the impression the vikings were raiding the British Isles soon after the Romans left, so the 4th and 5th century.
Given that the first recorded viking raid was 792 ... no...
It was the Saxons, Angles and Jutes that raided and invaded at that time. Vikings didn't show until a few hundred years later. They raided east unto Slavic territory at these times.
@@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart OK, I see. Thanks.
@StereoSpace it was 410 AD when Rome told Britain, "look to your own defenses," and recalled all legions station in Britain back to the continent... so early to mid 5th century would have been the dawn of Saxon and Angle migration periods ... they were initially held off by native Brittons - possibly the inspiration for the Authorian legends, but by the mid 6th century the Saxons had firm control of what's now central and southern England... the Angles held the East and native tribes remained in the west and far north
Adorable
Telescopes are eons older than " historians" report.
The ancient Phoenicians were seafarers that mapped the world, they were descendants of Ham via the Canaanites, what the Europeans learned about the world, they learned from the Phoenicians.
There are red headed Maoris who believe their ancestors were ordered by Ptolemy to discover of the world was round or flat. They couldn't get passed South America. Some stayed others returnes to New Zealand and settled there.
🔺 The Vikings were preceded to America by the Phoenicians, Basque, Irish - as clarified through DNA Studies and Linguistic Influence on at least 2 Native peoples languages.
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
How the fuck did people get to Easter island?
To this day I prefer driving and finding my destination by Atlas than "GPS". I don't like being led by a computer on a screen instead of the road and what is in front of me. It's really not that hard. With GPS it takes away any possibility of "adventure" . lol I like adventure, it certainly can make life more like "Living" and not just existing. Ya know, like a lump on a log. Nobody likes that.
you must be old
you probably still use bar soap
Get nI love you grandma
This is third grade level, but prbly too advanced for average youtuber who users this anemic farr to fall asleep
At 32:32 - the Portuguese king Henry the Navigator.....!! Sorry, but Henry never became king.
The belief of all ancient civilizations (Hindu, Mayan, Inca, Hebrew, Egyptian...) is not about a globe.
The repetition is horrendous… same information, over, and over, and over again....its interesting but impossible to watch.
discovered?, how crude.
Discovered for themselves and their civilization.
Can't hear the narrator.
We, Portuguese, gave new worlds to the World.
I have been on a binge for the last 3 days watching videos about portugal and the age of discovery. I am amazed how you guys aren't given much credit for your pioneering adventures and given the credit you deserve for discovering south america. My best friend growing up was Portuguese and his mum only spoke Portuguese and she wouldn't say much to us but always packed yummy food. Growing up in south africa it wouod have been really interesting if portugal played more of a role in the region and its development but alas i realize how important it was to sieze the spice trade for you and how you conquered that aspect and made a 400x return on your investment would have given venice a real good rude awakening!
@@handlehaggler thank you for your kind words. We have now complex of being inferior to others, unlike spanish that still see them as the center of an empire. I guess since our democracy revolution in 1974 we see us as just another one. The same happened with greeks, i guess. Once mighty powers and today almost irrelevant. Maybe our best genes are forever gone.
The Portuguese are frauds the African moors taught them everything they know , Christopher colombus was the biggest fake
Hahah wtf??? 😂 We as the Dutch took them from them and passed them along. 🤷 I don't know what's going on I'm just going with your story.
The background music takes away so much from the documentary.
Very eurocentric.
Almost centuries of ancient world, from Assyria to Medes and Persians, who built roads connecting far east to west fully overlooked.
But apparently even Homo erectes traveled far without maps but they sure had some geographical knowledge.
The Egyptian and Phoenician deserve more detailed investigation. The Ming dynasty had the potential to map the world but they stopped at Africa. Not mention the use of compas.
South Indians built empires as far as Bali and Java.
Arabs had the most advanced cartography of their times.
But most of the what Europeans "discovered" were settled by other people, who had discovered them centuries or even thousands of years before the Europeans, such as Tasmania.
All "Unknown" to Europeans.
Think only of Easter Islands. Even Antartic is depicted in an middle east copy of an very ancient map.
It would have been more interesting, if they had stuck to a more chronological narrative intead of jumping dramatically haphazardly through cultural or historical periods.
You are very anti European..yet you are typing in English on a European technology powered by an energy that Europeans controlled. Sounds like you are a bit of a Eurocentric yourself.
@@michaelkennedy3372 I have no idea, how the contents of my comment would make anyone conclude that I was anti-European. I am perhaps one of its most grateful students, most of all the Greeks, who had probably no notion of being Europeans in the modern sense, most of which was backwaters for them except where the Phoenicians or the Greeks themselves had settled. Alexander's world looked different. It is only after the defeat of Carthage that the Romans would shape the conceptual framework for a geographical given and the focus would shift toward the West.
But then perhaps Darwin was an anti-European too as he questioned their self-centric beliefs!
there is no way to know what might have been in the Alexandria library
I find that failing to name the most important and influential map in medieval Europe, the Catalan atlas, is a mistake that says volumes about the quality of this documentary. Be ashamed.
Attending "school" in 20th century America were we were LIED to... "1776 & blah blah bah... Whilst many of us had family bibles attesting our ancestors living in New Foundland 1500's
I wonder about the "Pierre Reice"(a Turkish admiral fom the 1500s)map,these people do not go far enough,back. My opinion. Someone riddle me "polygonal stonework" worldwide?
...before u even got into water with a boat n sail the seas (yes rivers are way harder, like try to sail trough Djerdap gorge, xD also u don't even used that unit, "Knots" for speed, hah u don't do knots with compas hah also u woud prob. be dead xD keep in mind that stars were and still are not same as down in polinesia or africa, since peoples could not see em from there, and it was newer fhe only thing em used to nav. yeah all of em were first astro observatories too, there were no Egipt down there, while em were mapping stuff like sirius b n the rest, but hey lets not forger Aleksandar n his sailng skills way before em "empires n idiots", or thats not "europe also"? xD
It's quite disappointing to see how you keep insisting in this ridiculous idea of people not knowing the sphericity of Earth in the renaissance. It was known from Eratosthenes in 2nd century BC and the Catholic Church had no trouble with it during the Middle Ages, not to talk during Renaissance. It's also quite ridiculous how you insist in the black legend about Spanish conquest of America, while you have not complained about Greek, Romans or Arabians doing the same before. To make it worse, you insinuate that Spaniards kept not knowing that America wasn't India in the 18th century, when it was Spaniards who circumnavigated the globe for the first time and started the systematic transpacific trade with Asia with the Galeon of Manila already in the 16th century. Since you, Germans, did not play any significant role in this age of discovery and exploration, you mention a couple of "cartographers" when Portuguese, Italians and Spaniards had already been making much better maps of the New World and the rest of the World decades before. Just check facts a little bit, please.
It was known...by them. It was also known by some of the more erudite people of the time. The vast majority of common people still were still holding onto more archaic ideas.
*an excerpt from ChatGPT in response to this question: "Could you provide a rough estimate of the percentage of people on earth who understood that the earth was round in around the year 1400?"
Given these factors, it's likely that only a small percentage of the global population in 1400 was aware of and understood the concept of a spherical Earth. This would predominantly include scholars, scientists, and some members of the clergy in certain parts of Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.
For the vast majority of the population, especially those outside of major cultural and educational centers, such scientific concepts would either be unknown, misunderstood, or viewed as irrelevant to their daily lives and worldviews. Thus, while it's difficult to assign a precise percentage, it's reasonable to assume that the majority of the world's population at that time either did not believe in or had no concept of a spherical Earth.
It was known to scientists much earlier than Eratosthenes, but he was the first to determine a good estimate of its size.
Bravo! I am starting the video, but now know what to expect. Everything you said was right. We Portuguese and our Spanish brothers knew the world was round and knew that they had discovered a new world. At first, they thought they were in the Pacific islands, but soon realized it wasn't.
My sincere thanks for sparing me a waste of time!
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People really hate if you point out the cruelty of slavery. “They did it too” is a weak argument, but I don’t argue with swine.
the cruelty of slavery is obvious and is usually where the discussion stops and finger pointing begins.
The extent of slavery was worldwide, included all races of people and started shortly after there were more than two people.
The oddities of slavery are many but 2 stand out.
First, Africans were the only vast group that actively hunted their own by the thousands to gain wealth and grow the slave industry.
Second, the African slave trade didn't stop until whites used military force defeating the tribe in the heart of Africa who refused to stop enslaving their own people.
These two facts are usually not discussed or even acknowledged.
White Europeans saved the world from the barbaric slave trade that they didn't start.
EARTH is FLAT
Flat earthers are humanity’s greatest embarrassment
Of course it is
Lets gooo 🎉
(Henry was never king.)
No is true Spain in the 15 century no is a poor country ( black legend today?) is a country with very Mediterranean comerce with Aragonese territories in Italy and other European countries the fact the 15 century named the golden age economic in comerce in the Aragonese part of Spain and Castille indudtrious in silk and wool emporio and others materies.
Because of the Moorish
Ancient?
Bugs ahead b
"European discovering the world"
is crazy
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Amazing to think that in "1492" ships could carry men with such heavy plums sacks😏
Age of exploration- How to find China from Jerusalem - go East til they find you.
The reason guides didn’t write anything down … might be literacy or the fact that if everyone knew … no need for a guide and he’s out of a job and money.
Ancient Civilizations Begin Mapping The Terrain, the had no concept of a Globe that far back in time.
The word globe in this context just means they Earth or the world. It’s not implying that the peoples who made the maps new that Earth is a sphere.
@@alucarddracula7 The sphere is much easier to come up with than good maps. Ancient Greek scholars already figured this out from observations which would be hard to explain otherwise.
People to this day walk into those Spanish churches and feel "the spirit". They neglect the fact that God's houses there are covered in innocent blood. But, hey! Jesus loves ya!
Hahaha yeah you've captured the sence of the Catholic church pretty just now 😂 god damn Papel idiots.
this was a GET FACTUAL documentary, ODYSSEY reposted as their own, SUPPER CHEESY.
This is actually a series called face of the world that odyssey and get factual both bought rights to
Calm down chuck
Not as cheesy as getting mad about this
"Supper Cheesy"? Macaroni and cheese for dinner?
This version of history is pithy, a jigsaw puzzle missing half the pieces.