When I was a kid when I would travel around the national parks, I used a piece of paper and would trace the horizon. Mountains, giant trees, rivers etc. Basic enough, but it worked well. I would imagine something of that sort happened back then
Even today, rather than using GPS, one is better served by a map, protractor, and compass. And even with those fantastic tools, one is still better served by their use of terrain association - using landmarks to orientate oneself. So you actually naturally served yourself very well by making use of the features of the landscape. You were a smart kid.
This has always fascinated me. We are so used to accurate maps and know exactly how to get to places and what "shape" things are. But what was it like for the Greeks? The Romans? Did they know what "shape" their empire was? What the shape of the Persian empire is?
I am unable to speak for the Greeks. However the Romans of antiquity had fairly accurate maps and mapping systems. They knew how to lay out road ways and accurately measure them. Their army logistical officers were apparently very adept at making, studying and perfecting maps. At least on land, they did not do so well on water until the Imperium. The Romans probably knew the shape of the Persian Empire (Sassonids at this point?) as they invaded Tsephone several times, and apparently knew about canals and waterways, that even the Sassonids were unaware of.
How long and how accurately could you hold a map in your head? Then pass it on to someone else. How long would a paper copy remain accurate if hand drawn every time it was reproduced.
Yes, the Greeks understood all of the same mathematical principles that we use in cartography today they knew the world was round just from a stick in the ground and watch him with the shadow moved and you got people now that’ll say the world is flat and can’t go anywhere with other phone, telling them where to go
@@20chocsaday Cartography is a lost art as machines do almost everything now. Just need a guy set up the machines and operate them and use a computer. Don't even need a cartographer or anyone to do math or draw. 3d scans and the like is all you need and satiates can do that. Cartographers used to always part of the crew/team for expeditions since antiquity. They would actually draw not just maps, but views from shores and landmarks. Sea expeditions cartographers would draw coastlines and what landmasses and islands looked like from a distance. After a expedition the cartographer would compile the data into a suitable map. They would then get artists and later image copy techniques (before photography) to make copies. Explores, ship captians, traders, merchants, and rulers were pretty much the only people who used maps so not tons of copies needed made back then..
After the fall of Saigon, the Vietnamese boat people set out to sea in search for freedom. My whole family and I headed out to South China sea, just east of Vietnam. Even that “sea” overwhelmed us all! After watching this, I have to hat off to those old time mariners! Whether their purposes were good or bad, crossing open oceans meant dead awaiting. They traveled with wooden boats and sails, limited supplies, yet they reached new lands and bought back goods to prove of their journey! 🙏🏻
*It's interesting how lakes, rivers and oceans are all perfectly level on a round blob egg-shaped globe earth that's supposedly spinning 66,000 mph with no turbulence...* 🤔
@@godsbeautifulflatearth The Earth spins at the rate of once every 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.01 seconds not at some mph number. There is no turbulence in space.
@@jasminyala3231 we don't get signals in the mountain because our cellular phones right now is not equipped with satellite signal receiving device, it is only equipped with tower signals receiving devices. But military and maritime radios can received signals from satellites, that's what we use all the time and we can call to land anytime even when we are on open Ocean 😊
The cartographer of the King of Sicily, al Idrisi, reported, after visiting Britain, that it was "the land of permanent winter". Mediterranean lands hardly experience rain during the Summer months, only in winter. Most medieval maps had Jerusalem at their center.
The Polynesians developed superb navigators of the Pacific who took their cues from very near ones like wave patterns, cloud formations, and birds indicating land was nearby, to using complex celestial navigation on very long direct voyages. Their system was somewhat fail safe in their environment because finding favorable winds for sailing eastwardly were not that difficult to locate. If something went seriously wrong on a voyage, the ocean surface currents which mostly moved from east to west would eventually return them to somewhere in the general area of their starting point.
The documentary seems to not pay particular attention to the Polynesians, though they were almost certainly predating the Phoenicians and had a more advanced knowledge of navigation.
@@ande1404 even historians are fallible, and biases show up based on an individual's experiences and willingness to acknowledge other viewpoints. Up to us to train ourselves to recognize that something is being omitted so we can search deeper.
There was a really good book that I read eons ago that went into detail on the longitude issue - can’t remember name or author but was a very good read.
What a stooge like thing to post, that you presume something you would have no control over and no idea would be "amazing." Unbelievable. A generation brought up by junk TV and no books.
with dated myth of middle ages belief in flat earth and other myths removed and, historically inaccurate views of Copernicus and Galileo uncritically reported as conflicts of religion and science. Greek geography included and 2 millennia's of continuity of 15nth century and 400 BC greek astronomy beginning Aristotle on knowledge of spherical earth.
Not sure if it’s brought up here but the way “knots” became the unit of velocity for sea travel is a funky piece of historical trivia that viewers might want to look into.
@@histguy101 there was a board/ weight tied to a rope with incremental knots tied in it. They would throw the weight/board end over board and then count the number of knots that got dragged over board across an increment of time to determine their speed.
How do you navigate the oceans of the world 🌍 without charts?? It’s interesting to learn how man formed an understanding of the world and how to get around in it. Excellent documentary Thank you 🙏🏻.
...coastlines & getting familiar with them first before venturing out of their site. In other words, repetitive travel routes. Following a competent leader also helped. Everything happens on a learning curve. You can do anything with practice.
I have a framed replica of an old one ("ORBIS TERRARUM NOVA ET ACCURATISSIMA TABULA", by Nicolao Visscher) in my living room. It is beautiful...being a long time aircraft pilot (as a profession) and a sailor (as a sport / hobby), charts & maps have always fascinated me...great documentary!!! 👏👏👏
A friend had a complete set of the maps of the roads of Rome. At first when he found the maps he did not know what he had. Later after he worked out what he had, he was incredibly excited. He sold them to a European museum, for a lot of money.
Nice documentary. Perhaps instead of focusing on the border drawing of the Middle-East and Africa, the doc makers could have mentioned the Great Geodetic Survey of India: truly a great work of Science.
Yes...they could have included it...however...most youngsters wouldn't know how these borders were drawn in straight...fuelling many of the tensions down to this day...for instance... Kurdistan...where is it today?...it was carved up and given to four other countries namely... Iraq...Iran...Turkey and Syria. 😁
@@ChristophersMum those countries didn't even exist until the British made the Sykes Picot treaty in 1913, showing that israel was planned decades in advance. The borders drawn gave a 25% Hindu population 75% of the land and they made sure to go right through sectarian areas to ensure the greatest disruption, much like GOP Gerry Mandering to this day
Greeks were great navigators and sailed even in the British islands in the Neolithic era and later Orpheus had written about those voyages and they used the grammic A and B along with the alphabet which had vowels that Phoenician didn't and was completely different besides that Phoenicians used their signs only for trading purposes while the Greeks wrote epic poems philosophy and lows and the history of their Gods!
As it is mentioned at around time 7:35 that the Phoenician sailors have sailedtoward India, I just want to mention that they've actually reached further to the islands of Indonesia. The phoenician-influenced alphabets have been used in some part of Sumatra island in ancient time.
@@danielch6662 WISH THEY HAD GPS BACK IN THAT TIME.. they would think we are wizzard and heretic.. life is one crazy simulation... most of you don't know yet.. but we getting there ;-)
Excellent documentary!! I am very drawn to cartography (no pun intended) and how, through time, a larger understanding of the world emerged. Very excellent!
So...let me get this straight...even though Alexander the Great traveled to India by land...it wouldn't be until the _Middle Ages_ that the Europeans would know how to get to India? And the world waited for Europeans to "discover" everything first before following their footsteps? Sounds very suspicious...
@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Thank God there's some sane people left in this insane world! Also if I remember correctly Hannibal was from North Africa and knew how to get to Rome via Spain through the Swiss Alps...and Rome knew how to sail to Spain and Africa as well..let's also not forget that the Greeks we're already sailing for quite sometime...so it's ridiculous to believe that we curious people never thought to travel further...and I think the Silk Road allowed China and Rome to cross paths long ago.
India as we know it is a new nation in the sub continent contripisng of Afghanistan and Pakistan to the North . So how far did Alexander ' actually get into what they are calling India'? I think just the very North were he relied on locals/natives to inform him about the different cultures,areas and locations in this part of the sub continent. EDIT : And these people would have had maps of local and even far away areas, and so and so on.
It's just CRT disguised as something else. Too bad, because I thought this was going to be like the other stuff her-very well done, and informative, and accurate. This is a joke.
Partially true. There are definitely different styles of maps even within cultures for different purposes. On a 2D surface to map a coastline's shape accurately you cannot map the relative sizes of continents accurately (assuming the globe surface is 3D/rounded; even today Greenland and such on maps looks more massive than it is). Alternatively they may approximate the coastal details in favour of the accurate sizing of the islands/continents and countries. Another type map might be elevation maps where a mountain or hill or valley is demonstrated by a series of lines of the same elevation closer or father appart. (Most people don't use these unless they work in civil eng., geology, mining, flood mitigation, etc. )
Indeed. Sadly they don't mention the maps the Polynesians used. They didn't rely only on a oral tradition. They used maps made from weaved material with incorporated shells representing islands.
Sea folks surely understood the importance of keeping an eye on birds, what seasons were important for their movement and directions and no doubt (close to nature) drew some practical conclusions allowing them to lose fear of any myth about an endless ocean.
I would imagine that navigation by oral tradition was functional because the routes were demonstrated, first hand by the orators themselves. They would show you how to get there while providing a story that helps you commit the route to memory. However, I'm sure there were exceptions in cases where the story included alternative destinations. I must assume that map making was an improvement to the system. Great video!
@@rathburne1057 Aw, dude! It's like you just climbed Everest and yodeled your ignorance from the summit. All I can say is I hope you didn't take out a student loan to finance your mis-education. The real tragedy is that when you say it's "the most stupid assumption [you've] ever heard", I can actually believe you.
Divide the world's Circumference by six and get 6,666. Divide the number of seconds in a day by 400 and get 216, 2160 is the length of an astrological age. The Moon is 400 times smaller than the sun, which is 864,000 miles wide, just like there are 86,400 seconds in a day. The planet orbits the Sun at 108,000 km/hr or 66,600 miles an hour. If we divide the angled side of the Pyramid (186.6 x 100 = 18,660) by 21.6 we get 863.8, plus .2 is 864. The base of the Pyramid minus the height is also Pi times 100, and Al Nitak follows Sirius past the King's Chamber in 100 minutes. If we divide the height by Euler's number we get the square root of Pi, times 2 is 354, the number of days in 12 lunar months. If we divide the diameter of the Sun by 6 we get 144,000 The hands of our 24 hr clock go around 60 times 60 times 10, which is 36,000, the number of Arc degrees in one second times 10, which means each second is one 360th of a circle, times 100. This shows that the Star of David was used as a kind of calculator to devise time and do complex equations using a hexadecimal system. The Egyptian number of perfection is 100, we divide 400 by 100 to get 4, we divide 600 by 100 we get 6. 4/6 is equal to 2/3 and 3/9, all of which have a ratio of 66.666666666, by which they can divide the Horizon down to seconds, and thus navigate the globe knowing both its dimensions and be able to make accurate maps. 86,400 ÷ 400 is 216 216 x 2 is 432 432 + 216 is 684 432 x 2 is 864 So rather than divide 864,000 by 2160, they divide 86,400 by 216, which is 400, rather than 40,000. This means a Megalithic Clock would go around 40 times, with each second broken down into tenths. 6 times 6 times 10; 3600. 400 ÷ 6 is 66.66666 These numbers all divide into each other. Half of 216 is 108, just as the Earth orbits the Sun at 108,000 km/hr. The interior angles of a regular Pentagon are also 108, and the interior angles of a Star of David add up to 1,440, times 100 is 144,000. Half of 108 is 54. It takes 360 Full Moons to span the night sky Horizon to Horizon, 720 total, 72 times 3 is 216. 6 x 6 x 6 x 4 = 864 Which means a full moon is equivalent to 300 seconds, or 5 minutes, meaning 2 Full moons per 10 minutes. This means seconds represent tenths of the Moon, a Minute (6 times 10 times 10) being 2 Full Moons or 1 degree of arc. Multiply the Moon's diameter by 18.6, the number of years in a Metonic Cyle, and get 40,175, the diameter of the Earth plus 100. 40,000 times 100 is 4,000,000, the Earth's circumference in meters. Multiply 18.6 by 2150 (actual diameter of the Moon) and you get 39,990, just 10 km short. This means they measured the Earth with the Orbit of the Moon, and based their metrics off of the Full Moon, cubing and squaring it to find the relationships between the heavenly bodies. Half of the Pyramid's base equals one 86,400th of the Earth's Circumference. Divide the Base by the height and get Pi. The height of the Great Pyramid times 43200 equals the Polar Circumference of the Earth. Also the Circumference of the Base of the Great Pyramid times 43200 equals the Equatorial Circumference of the Earth. An equilateral Triangle formed within the face of the Great Pyramid is 6,666 inches along each side, it represents one half of the Star of David, 720 degrees, as above so below, so we double it, 1440 ÷ 6 is 240, the number of hours on a clock times ten. 24 being 6 x 4, combining both ratios of of Sun and Moon, hence Solomon. The Pyramid itself is Squaring the Circle, by reducing the proportions of the cosmos to squares and roots based on Phi and Pi and Euler's number as a ratio to feet, and the Star of David is what allows them to do it, like a proto Antikythera mechanism. I can't say if they went to hundredths of a second, because I'm not even that much of a mathematician (majician) but they definitely did tenths, and it equates to the same nautical metrics we use today. Enoch also buries 36,525 scrolls, the number of days in a year, times 100. Oh by the way, this shows that our current measure of time is based on the principle of 1/6, the basis of an Egyptian Royal Cubit, but first they built the first ring at Stonehenge, which is 100 metres (330 ft) wide, with an area of 2160 square feet, a Cube's interior angles also add up to.. 2160. This produces a Calendar of 60 6 day weeks plus five. Every 4th year a 366th day makes exactly 61 weeks. This means every 216 years this calendar produces 1 extra day, so after 648 years 3 days must be removed. This is when the Phoenix arrived, and stepped onto the Alter of Ra or Holy Grail, completing the Metonic cycle and bringing the Calendar back into sync with the first New Moon of the Spring equinox. The Capstone of the Pyramid is even called the Benben Stone, the Egyptian Phoenix is called the Bennu. It likely relates to Deneb, in Ophiuchus, the 13th Starsign of the Zodiac. The base of the Pyramid is exactly 13 Acres, as is Teotihuacan, because they share the exact same base dimensions. Such a location would be ideal for calculating the speed of light using the transit of Venus. Incidentally the Great Pyramid's Latitudinal coordinates are the speed of light. 1440 ÷ 108 = 13.333333 11 and 3 are the most sacred Celtic numbers of royalty, and also happen to be the proportions of the Earth to the Moon, and the Great Pyramid. The starsigns also precess 1 degree every 72 years 72 x 3 is 216 2160 ÷ 648 is 3.3333333 The Aztec Calendar also begins with a double transit of Venus, in 3116BC. This whole code can be encoded into a single Pythagorean Triangle of Dimensions 666 by 630, by 216, this is the Key of Solomon, 33 is the inverse of 66. 100 is the "perfect number" because it represents 10 6 unit metrics times 10 6 unit metrics, a unit being 6.66 ie 60 x 60 (3600) the number of Arcdegree seconds in a second, or a one second unit on a clock the size of Earth This means seconds represent 10ths of the Moon; 216, or 6 x 6 x 6 (100 ÷ 6 ÷ 6 = 2.7): Euler's number, and the number of feet to a Megalithic Yard, 3/11 is .27 and the number of days in a sidereal month is also 27. 11/3 is 3.66, the number of days in a Canicular leap year, the character of Thoth, Cuchulainn, and kukulkan, the Dog Star, and star by which the Sothic Calendar is determined. 3 x 11 is 33, the years in a Great Solar Return. As the Sun and Moon inhabit respective house of the Zodiac they animate the character within, playing out the dramas and battles we know as myths, for example the Moon traveling through each of the Zodiac houses each month, for a grand total of... 144 (12 x 12)
Great documentary. Very good visuals and enactments and the flow of the story. Also loved the translation of the professors with their voice in the background as well to get the feeling of talking to them.
I remember back when we didn't have cell phones or GPS. We would just look at a map for a few minutes and be on our way. Nobody calling and asking where you are or when will you arrive. I really miss those days. These young adults and teenagers nowadays would be lost without cell phones and GPS.
in the 15th and 16th centuries, the Europeans used what's called a "mariners astrolabe" developed by the Portuguese, which was a modification of the more ancient Arab and Persian astrolabe
Some of the ancient maps were quite beautiful. I believe they were only detailed by and for, those who were on the oceanic trade route or passed down orally by nomadic ppl. I often think about what the sky must have looked like in a world without light pollution and how it made use of the sextant.
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Excellent work. However, a small correction: Henry the Navigator was not the king of Portugal. Actually, he was the brother of the kings Dom Duarte (1433-37)and Dom Pedro (during 1441-48), while regent until Dom Afonso V became king in 1448. Henry was also the Grand Master of the Order of Christ, responsible for the enterprise of the Portuguese discoveries. He established the Navigation School of Sagres and led the Portuguese effort of Discoveries until his death in 1460. As the Grand Master of the Order of Christ in Portugal, Henry the Navigator controlled extensive land holdings and wealth and had access to critical sources of revenue, including a significant share in the newly established slave trade with North West Africa to undertake the expensive enterprise of Discoveries.
My screen name on many FE debunking Sites is Court of Sagres (school of navigation) a name that was given to me in 1974 from an guide while on Survival trip in Explorer Scouts. One can only join the Explorer after achieving Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts. My Explorer Troup was 100% Survival, we were typically dropped solo with small survival pack, a watch and coordinates to a meeting place. I regularly challenge science deniers to a navigation bet, with only a watch their way from a blind drop off to a set of coordinates, first one arriving (me) wins and after a few days we might send out a rescue team. My dad gave me my first sextant on my 16th birthday and my first wife found me a map table from a 1500s ship, during a restore we discovered a hidden section with 2 maps, a journal, a sextant and a sun compass from the 1520's. Love this show.
I've always thought ancient peoples used the oceans and seas like highways, traded with each other, warred, intermarried, and civilizations have come and gone
but that highway current sends you where ever, like how its easier to get pushed to africa then to sail north. It be cool if more groups used them like the Polynesian did.
What evidence did you have to always think that? Or was it just some gut feeling or intuition? You drawing wisdom from mother Gaia during your guided meditation sessions Pat?
They did to a small degree, but think more about it in terms of trading around the Mediterranean for a group of cultures. When trading happenned on the silk road, or travelling across the coast from arabia to india, it would be months and even years before the merchants recieved their goods. It was rare in ancient times to leave sight of the coast lines. So whilst a lot of trade happened, it would feel like slow motion in todays concept. Wars took years to prepare and execute. Empires last centuries. Many amalgamated, and/or were decimated after decades of fighting. Sea's werent really highways at all, otherwise we would have seen most of the worlds civilizations progress and develop at similar rates. But as you can see, even in the last 300 years when the pacific ocean was finally properly navigated and documented, notne of that happened. Australia was "settled" in 1788, but up until that point, aboriginals had next to no contact with other people of the world, and their culture had not progressed much further than bush living, caves, basic hunting and gathering, and small tribal communities (they never had a need to due to almost zero outside interference). This was also common with most Polynesian cultures before colonialism got to their neighbourhood. The above cultures thrived for thousands upon thousands of years without full scale european style warring. Which, to me, makes history and learning the timelines so interesting.
Columbus was Portuguese, not Italian. Amerigo Vespucci didn't make it to the Americas until 1497. Italians couldn't have it that Columbus wasn't Italian. So, They named the "newfound" continents after Vespucci. It was ALL political, just like today.
@@trp2413 there are ancient maps for certain parts of the world that could never have been done without advanced technology. of course the maps your talking about were done crudely because they did not have access to the technology. we are not the first technologically advanced modern society. there have been many uncountable ones before us
Is a really good / informational / etc documentary, however the background music feels a bit 'sinister' (idk if 'sinister' is the best word to describe the tone set by the background music, it's just closest word I can think of at the moment) so doesn't really match a documentary about maps. I really enjoy your documentaries, have been a follower/fan for several years now. Keep up the great work!!🙂
I still get lost in my own neighborhood. I can only imagine, where I would have ended up, had I lived in ancient times. Probably at the bottom of the ocean.
More precisely, they were just as intelligent as we are. They simply had less information to work with. Many times they had to make decisions even in the absence of solid facts. They did and sometimes they paid the ultimate price for it.
38:50 Proverbs 22:16 “He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.” Ecc 1:9 now humans will serve the "Sea Peoples" aka the Contollers Eph 6:12 as human batteries.
Yes I was convinced by a documentary on that. He had Italian connections but he was Portuguese. I am also curious about possible connections with Chinese maps...
There were many accidental preventions for ship scurvy, lack of vitamin C. Polynesians had coconuts for thirst and food, Captain Cooke was a big believer in pickled cabbage, North American native seafarers used smoked fruit berry patties. And so on. Oh yes, Spanish discoverd south American potatoes, good also source of scurvy prevention they found by trial and error - also a good vitamin C source.
Also British captains found that the lime fruit had very good source of scurvy prevention...and quite a few stocked their ships with the fruit...one reason that they were called ''limeys''
Henry the Navigator was never a king, but a prince... he was one of the youngest sons of João I (John the first). He was the Duke of Viseu and grand master of the military order of Christ. During his life three different kings reigned in Portugal: D. João I (John the first), his father; D. Duarte (king Edward), his older brother; and Afonso V, his nephew.
Only British Sailors were referred to as limeys and I believe that was given to them by The Americans but yes fresh lime juice does ward off scurvy along with fresh vegetables to and of course hygiene
Mapping goes back a lot further than the Sumerians. We just don't have records of it before then. Check out the Pyrie Reis maps 500 years old yet they would require satellites to produce with that accuracy. This video claims that nobody had maps in the dark ages and middle ages and yet they did. I am not sure why they would say there were no maps. Possibly the maps had to be hidden from the Church to not get in trouble(Being burned at the stake or being torchered to death in some way).
Columbus was possibly aware of the Reis map. It shows the entire world including Antarctica but omits the west side of north and parts of South America.
@@notreally2406 go to u tube and type lost history of earth, by ryan its a 6 hour video yet its the most info you will ever get in one place and u need to watch it all or it will make no sense at all, time to wake up good luck
I think perhaps they had a sense we have lost. Wasn’t there a study that said because we use GPS our center for the ability to recall directions is sputtering out?
nope humans aren't birds we never had such ability even the apes or any other mammals do their rutes by generatinos after generatinos learning the routes....
Something wrong with this story. The Portuguese did cross the ocean and did land in South America, Venezuela in fact. They also found out about what became known as "The Gulfstream", strong wind blowing South to north along the American continant. They charted the route accordingly. When Columbus pretended to reach India by going West, He already knew about the New Continant, he was in posession of stolen Portuguese charts ! The thing is, he did not pay attention to the Gulfstream and ended up on an Island close to North America. Ence, Islands called "West Indies". Columbus NEVER put a foot on American soil. He had been recalled to Spain (empty handed, no gold) and never went back. some other Spanish sailor years later went from the newly called West Indies to discover mainland America (North America). This is real history and well documented !
yes. We will believe you when you submit your proof here. Columbus made it to the Caribbean. The Caribbean is part of the Americas. Provide proof of the Portuguese map if you want anybody to believe that story.
@@WillyatSea I'd have to dig around in the archives probably, but I think the Portuguese were slightly earlier on the scene (North coast). The Dutch later charted and explored the West coast of Australia, and probably were the first to make contact with Maori (not that that ended well...)
You overlooked one small thing: You named the Compass and Sextant (kinda skipping over the Astrolabe), but you didn't mention the invention of an accurate shipboard chronometer.
This misses out mention of all the navigational information by non-European cultures, and downplays all the extensive trading and exploration done before the colonisation era - like a lot. I know this is told from a European perspective, but you'd think the Muslim, Indian and Chinese had never contributed anything the way this is told. What this doesn't mention is that while the Europeans were grasping around in the dark since the Middle Ages trying to explore and map places, entire empires all over the world were confidently travelling seafaring and overland routes across and around the continents of the world. The Europeans had to "re-discover" everything because they ignored or wiped out that knowledge.
@@bradthompson5383 Yep.. and isn't it a shame there are so many college kids running around that don't even know how many minutes are in an hour. At this rate, humanity will not only lose all it has accomplished but we'll have the brain function of amoebas. Watching these videos where the guy walks around asking college age kids basic questions & they literally have no idea, is more than worrisome. I mean one girl guessed the Earth, her own planet.. has 6 moons. We're doomed. Our greatest days are behind us lol
scholars always knew that the earth is round. year 820, the arabs, harun al rashid established the house of wisdom and the school of algebra. they sent two expeditions, north, west, and determined the size of the earth quite accurately. They used sextants, astrolabs, ... so these tools were known loooong time ago.
Thanks! That was a nice review. Somehow it would seem like burning the libraries at Alexandria and other seats of learning retarded our understanding of cartography quite a bit! I wish it were not for dominance and riches that the world got discovered by European civilization. Navigating by compass is not as easy as it looks, but it will get you there with a decent map.
Your remark about dominance and exploitation shows how profoundly you have been brainwashed by history (popular or otherwise) written from the point of view of the French Enlightenment, which blamed man's problems on religion, especially Catholicism. The early navigators were seeking paths to the east in order to gain wealth to be used to prevent and oppose Muslim invasions of Europe, invasions which Portugal and Spain knew all too well. With such wealth, it would be possible to finance and grow armies, navies, and cavalry fit for repelling Muslim military expansionism. Islam was not forced to stop invading Europe until its defeat at the Battle of the Gates of Vienna on September 11, 1683 (a date all serious Muslims know), and all European rulers knew Islam was a serious threat. Hence, the special interest that Portugal and Spain had in circumnavigation for the purpose of engaging in spice trade that could finance Reconquista and counterattack against an aggressive Islam that was officially opposed in the West until 1096.
That "age of discovery & mapmaking" will always be fascinating & kinda impossible to imagine blank spaces on the map, in the age of satellite imagery! really hope humanity will make it into another age of discovery when we master spacetravel!, if we dont wipe us idiots off the planet first!
So much information in such a small time period. So much information within the human body itself. So much information zooming in and zooming out towards the rest of the universe… in different time periods. I want to learn more, I feel an urge to know more 😢
The piri reis map and the positioning of the great monuments being in such a way that they line up with each other is absolute proof they had mapped the entire globe many millennia ago. There is other incredible evidence such as the measurements of the great pyramid relating to the diameter of the earth and being in the centre of the earth's land mass theres even evidence in its dimensionsthat they knew the precise distanceto the moon. I found the way the monuments line up to be utterly dumfounding. Christianity believed Jerusalem was the spiritual centre thus the centre of the earthly world whereas the great pyramid of Egypt is in fact at the centre of the earthly world it goes to show just how advanced they were.
Blaze's Ancient Aliens geniuses would say our ancestors learned to map the world because aliens came down from on high to give them that information. They also told them how to build pyramids in Egypt and temples in South America. And gave them knowledge of how to make concrete. Funny how these ancient aliens didn't tell architects how to build the Shard isn't it?
LOL. I always had a question for the ancient alien theorists. If the interstellar traveling aliens taught our ancestors how to build things, why did they only use stones? Where are the exotic metals ?
@@aemrt5745 lol were so dumbed down now we do not even know who we are, we r like programed robots, a slave race in a prison and worst of all we think we're free 😭 but the ancient humans who built these beautiful buildings did put precious metals and stones ie..... Gold, platinum, diamonds, emeralds, rubies etc... On these buildings (the pyramids have been stripped they were smooth and now been stripped back to the stone and it looks like big steps all way up the outside of them)
Imagine waking up one morning, 2000 years ago and say. "Im going to build myself a wooden boat and sail towards the sun. Just to see what's over there". What guts!!
if the chinese admiral zheng he was not forbidden to further navigate and explore the open seas.. both the old and the new world would have been colonized by china, christianity would not be wide spread and buddhism would be the dominant religion today
Even though we have computers now doesn't mean we can't still use the compass & charts for backup when glitches & malfunctions happen.... Even the stars... We should never forget the foundations... Of navigation ..
Well done. I wish Time Line could find an old documentary concerning the intensive efforts to map Normandy for D Day. I have found others discussing it, but there was one I came across years ago that I can no longer find. I saved and book marked it, but it just disappeared from Y.T.
Very ancient cultures had maps.For example,through travels to far off lands for trade,first by ships,there are still some records from long before the pre-Alexandrianperiod.They were maps resulting from trade and the ancient Greek sea travel diaries, "Periplous".Am sure the Chinese have theirs,too but we haven't investigated.Many have been lost or are in private collections or in libraries/ Bibliotecas in Spain,Italy, England, Morocco ,the U.S.,etc.There are books on "Secret Libraries."Much more investigation needs to be done through collaboration between people who kept a long history track - record.
When I was a kid when I would travel around the national parks, I used a piece of paper and would trace the horizon. Mountains, giant trees, rivers etc. Basic enough, but it worked well. I would imagine something of that sort happened back then
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Even today, rather than using GPS, one is better served by a map, protractor, and compass. And even with those fantastic tools, one is still better served by their use of terrain association - using landmarks to orientate oneself. So you actually naturally served yourself very well by making use of the features of the landscape. You were a smart kid.
This has always fascinated me. We are so used to accurate maps and know exactly how to get to places and what "shape" things are. But what was it like for the Greeks? The Romans? Did they know what "shape" their empire was? What the shape of the Persian empire is?
I am unable to speak for the Greeks. However the Romans of antiquity had fairly accurate maps and mapping systems. They knew how to lay out road ways and accurately measure them. Their army logistical officers were apparently very adept at making, studying and perfecting maps. At least on land, they did not do so well on water until the Imperium.
The Romans probably knew the shape of the Persian Empire (Sassonids at this point?) as they invaded Tsephone several times, and apparently knew about canals and waterways, that even the Sassonids were unaware of.
How did Pytheus reach Iceland after circumnavigating Britain in ~320BC?
How long and how accurately could you hold a map in your head?
Then pass it on to someone else.
How long would a paper copy remain accurate if hand drawn every time it was reproduced.
Yes, the Greeks understood all of the same mathematical principles that we use in cartography today they knew the world was round just from a stick in the ground and watch him with the shadow moved and you got people now that’ll say the world is flat and can’t go anywhere with other phone, telling them where to go
@@20chocsaday Cartography is a lost art as machines do almost everything now. Just need a guy set up the machines and operate them and use a computer. Don't even need a cartographer or anyone to do math or draw. 3d scans and the like is all you need and satiates can do that. Cartographers used to always part of the crew/team for expeditions since antiquity. They would actually draw not just maps, but views from shores and landmarks. Sea expeditions cartographers would draw coastlines and what landmasses and islands looked like from a distance. After a expedition the cartographer would compile the data into a suitable map. They would then get artists and later image copy techniques (before photography) to make copies. Explores, ship captians, traders, merchants, and rulers were pretty much the only people who used maps so not tons of copies needed made back then..
After the fall of Saigon, the Vietnamese boat people set out to sea in search for freedom. My whole family and I headed out to South China sea, just east of Vietnam. Even that “sea” overwhelmed us all! After watching this, I have to hat off to those old time mariners! Whether their purposes were good or bad, crossing open oceans meant dead awaiting. They traveled with wooden boats and sails, limited supplies, yet they reached new lands and bought back goods to prove of their journey! 🙏🏻
If you are Vietnamese then you wouldn't call it the South China Sea.
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Yeah, every time you hopped on that boat it was a serious gamble.
To travel the world is my prime reason why I became a navigator/sailor and I love seeing charts and other countries culture and territorial sceneries
*It's interesting how lakes, rivers and oceans are all perfectly level on a round blob egg-shaped globe earth that's supposedly spinning 66,000 mph with no turbulence...* 🤔
@@godsbeautifulflatearth Satellites can'orbit a Flat Earth. GPS wouldn't function.
@@godsbeautifulflatearth The Earth spins at the rate of once every 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.01 seconds not at some mph number. There is no turbulence in space.
@@bugstomper4670 if satellite is orbiting the earth why we don't get signal in the mountains
@@jasminyala3231 we don't get signals in the mountain because our cellular phones right now is not equipped with satellite signal receiving device, it is only equipped with tower signals receiving devices. But military and maritime radios can received signals from satellites, that's what we use all the time and we can call to land anytime even when we are on open Ocean 😊
Maps show the growing knowledge of people in an interesting way. Thanks.
The cartographer of the King of Sicily, al Idrisi, reported, after visiting Britain, that it was "the land of permanent winter". Mediterranean lands hardly experience rain during the Summer months, only in winter. Most medieval maps had Jerusalem at their center.
Ancient civilizations passed this from father to son, the old libraries had knowledge, but too often these were burned or destroyed
The Polynesians developed superb navigators of the Pacific who took their cues from very near ones like wave patterns, cloud formations, and birds indicating land was nearby, to using complex celestial navigation on very long direct voyages. Their system was somewhat fail safe in their environment because finding favorable winds for sailing eastwardly were not that difficult to locate. If something went seriously wrong on a voyage, the ocean surface currents which mostly moved from east to west would eventually return them to somewhere in the general area of their starting point.
The documentary seems to not pay particular attention to the Polynesians, though they were almost certainly predating the Phoenicians and had a more advanced knowledge of navigation.
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EXCELLENT !!! EXCELLENT !!! A wonderful overview of our history. Thank you.
Did not hear John Harrison and his invention of the chronometer, essential for the fixing of longitude, mentioned. Enjoyed the film.
There was a really good book that I read eons ago that went into detail on the longitude issue - can’t remember name or author but was a very good read.
A modern remake of this program would be amazing!
Yes, with more input from the orient's exploration and mapping history.
What a stooge like thing to post, that you presume something you would have no control over and no idea would be "amazing." Unbelievable. A generation brought up by junk TV and no books.
with dated myth of middle ages belief in flat earth and other myths removed and, historically inaccurate views of Copernicus and Galileo uncritically reported as conflicts of religion and science. Greek geography included and 2 millennia's of continuity of 15nth century and 400 BC greek astronomy beginning Aristotle on knowledge of spherical earth.
I wonder how they did it cause people still get lost with GPS.
When your life depends on navigation, and getting lost means death, you quickly get good at it.
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Funny
Noone left home living off the land was the way of life. ...
Hahaha.. i agree
A book I recommend to all sailors "longitude " great book on the roots of navigation, politics ,science and innovation .
Best book EVER.
Not sure if it’s brought up here but the way “knots” became the unit of velocity for sea travel is a funky piece of historical trivia that viewers might want to look into.
Was it by a rope with knots on it set into the water with a weight on the end?
No. It was a gauge on the dashboard of those ships they sailed. C'mon man. Don't you know anything? Boats have dials and gauges on them.....
@@histguy101 lol you forgot the child labourers but ya…..it’s a pretty demented way of taking measurements
@@histguy101 there was a board/ weight tied to a rope with incremental knots tied in it. They would throw the weight/board end over board and then count the number of knots that got dragged over board across an increment of time to determine their speed.
@@iamalive82 I was referring more to their origins. It is like a Rube Goldberg measuring device in my mind.
How do you navigate the oceans of the world 🌍 without charts?? It’s interesting to learn how man formed an understanding of the world and how to get around in it. Excellent documentary Thank you 🙏🏻.
...coastlines & getting familiar with them first before venturing out of their site. In other words, repetitive travel routes. Following a competent leader also helped. Everything happens on a learning curve. You can do anything with practice.
Charts have been made 10k years ago before the ice age
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By the position of stars - sailors of Oceania can still do it.
There is only one ocean. Don't believe what they tell you. Just look at a map, one ocean. One people, we or us .
Henry The Navigator was never King of Portugal. He was the 5th son of King John I. Other than this, brilliant stuff.
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Why are they wrong? I have no clue who is right now... Are thou sure? How do you know?
I have a framed replica of an old one ("ORBIS TERRARUM NOVA ET ACCURATISSIMA TABULA", by Nicolao Visscher) in my living room. It is beautiful...being a long time aircraft pilot (as a profession) and a sailor (as a sport / hobby), charts & maps have always fascinated me...great documentary!!! 👏👏👏
A friend had a complete set of the maps of the roads of Rome. At first when he found the maps he did not know what he had. Later after he worked out what he had, he was incredibly excited. He sold them to a European museum, for a lot of money.
My cousin made an exact replica of his home town as it was in 1950, not even 100 years, yet it's in a museum. The people are new but blank.
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Nice documentary. Perhaps instead of focusing on the border drawing of the Middle-East and Africa, the doc makers could have mentioned the Great Geodetic Survey of India: truly a great work of Science.
Yes...they could have included it...however...most youngsters wouldn't know how these borders were drawn in straight...fuelling many of the tensions down to this day...for instance... Kurdistan...where is it today?...it was carved up and given to four other countries namely... Iraq...Iran...Turkey and Syria. 😁
@@ChristophersMum I give youngsters more credit than that and many problematic borders are the result of non-European machinations.
But now you've mentioned it I can look it up. Thank you.
Envy kills.
@@ChristophersMum those countries didn't even exist until the British made the Sykes Picot treaty in 1913, showing that israel was planned decades in advance. The borders drawn gave a 25% Hindu population 75% of the land and they made sure to go right through sectarian areas to ensure the greatest disruption, much like GOP Gerry Mandering to this day
Fantastic presentation. Cheers 🥂
you spelled fantasy wrong lol... (wait for it...lol)
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@@TheeRocker Envy kills.
They used to think the Trojan War and the "City of Troy" was a story...
Until someone found it.
Greeks were great navigators and sailed even in the British islands in the Neolithic era and later Orpheus had written about those voyages and they used the grammic A and B along with the alphabet which had vowels that Phoenician didn't and was completely different besides that Phoenicians used their signs only for trading purposes while the Greeks wrote epic poems philosophy and lows and the history of their Gods!
As it is mentioned at around time 7:35 that the Phoenician sailors have sailedtoward India, I just want to mention that they've actually reached further to the islands of Indonesia. The phoenician-influenced alphabets have been used in some part of Sumatra island in ancient time.
Doesn't mean they arrived there themselves. It means somebody who knew their alphabet arrived there.
@@danielch6662 WISH THEY HAD GPS BACK IN THAT TIME.. they would think we are wizzard and heretic.. life is one crazy simulation... most of you don't know yet.. but we getting there ;-)
Sadly they left no written evidence of this.
They also circumference Africa and taught the greeks the art of shipping and writing.
@@MrShnazer Sadly with Destruction of Carthage and tyre their works that wasn't translated or copied were lost
Excellent documentary!! I am very drawn to cartography (no pun intended) and how, through time, a larger understanding of the world emerged. Very excellent!
Great documentary.
Maps are interesting- agreed
I have a globe. We should get married!
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So...let me get this straight...even though Alexander the Great traveled to India by land...it wouldn't be until the _Middle Ages_ that the Europeans would know how to get to India? And the world waited for Europeans to "discover" everything first before following their footsteps? Sounds very suspicious...
Yes, a laugh isn't it?
Discovering places where people are already there. Nuts!
@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Thank God there's some sane people left in this insane world! Also if I remember correctly Hannibal was from North Africa and knew how to get to Rome via Spain through the Swiss Alps...and Rome knew how to sail to Spain and Africa as well..let's also not forget that the Greeks we're already sailing for quite sometime...so it's ridiculous to believe that we curious people never thought to travel further...and I think the Silk Road allowed China and Rome to cross paths long ago.
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Yes, Hannibal from Carthage, present day Tunisia.
India as we know it is a new nation in the sub continent contripisng of Afghanistan and Pakistan to the North .
So how far did Alexander ' actually get into what they are calling India'?
I think just the very North were he relied on locals/natives to inform him about the different cultures,areas and locations in this part of the sub continent.
EDIT : And these people would have had maps of local and even far away areas, and so and so on.
It's just CRT disguised as something else.
Too bad, because I thought this was going to be like the other stuff her-very well done, and informative, and accurate.
This is a joke.
Very informative.
I’ve always kind of wondered about this. Mapping styles were probably unique to each map and culture
and that's the most reasonable thought.
Partially true. There are definitely different styles of maps even within cultures for different purposes. On a 2D surface to map a coastline's shape accurately you cannot map the relative sizes of continents accurately (assuming the globe surface is 3D/rounded; even today Greenland and such on maps looks more massive than it is). Alternatively they may approximate the coastal details in favour of the accurate sizing of the islands/continents and countries.
Another type map might be elevation maps where a mountain or hill or valley is demonstrated by a series of lines of the same elevation closer or father appart. (Most people don't use these unless they work in civil eng., geology, mining, flood mitigation, etc. )
Indeed. Sadly they don't mention the maps the Polynesians used. They didn't rely only on a oral tradition. They used maps made from weaved material with incorporated shells representing islands.
@@wolfgangkranek376 they mentioned it for a few seconds 1:12:15
My question is: How did they get a mapping of Antarctica before it was covered with ice ?
Sea folks surely understood the importance of keeping an eye on birds, what seasons were important for their movement and directions and no doubt (close to nature) drew some practical conclusions allowing them to lose fear of any myth about an endless ocean.
Very informative and has opened up many new name of map makers and explores
Great documentary. I especially enjoy the music being too dramatic and scary when it’s not even suitable to the footage on screen lol
Fantastic documentary about the history that my country was a part of.
One of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. Thank you.
I would imagine that navigation by oral tradition was functional because the routes were demonstrated, first hand by the orators themselves. They would show you how to get there while providing a story that helps you commit the route to memory. However, I'm sure there were exceptions in cases where the story included alternative destinations.
I must assume that map making was an improvement to the system.
Great video!
Navigating by story... hahahahahahaha.. thats about the most stupid assumption ive ever heard in my life... good lord!
Having now watched all of it, it seems that you are correct that in the begging it was oral....
@@rathburne1057 truly --- esp since no ocean currents ever existed.. and Thor Heyerdahl proved he could speak English.
@@rathburne1057 Aw, dude! It's like you just climbed Everest and yodeled your ignorance from the summit. All I can say is I hope you didn't take out a student loan to finance your mis-education. The real tragedy is that when you say it's "the most stupid assumption [you've] ever heard", I can actually believe you.
Divide the world's Circumference by six and get 6,666. Divide the number of seconds in a day by 400 and get 216, 2160 is the length of an astrological age. The Moon is 400 times smaller than the sun, which is 864,000 miles wide, just like there are 86,400 seconds in a day. The planet orbits the Sun at 108,000 km/hr or 66,600 miles an hour.
If we divide the angled side of the Pyramid (186.6 x 100 = 18,660) by 21.6 we get 863.8, plus .2 is 864. The base of the Pyramid minus the height is also Pi times 100, and Al Nitak follows Sirius past the King's Chamber in 100 minutes.
If we divide the height by Euler's number we get the square root of Pi, times 2 is 354, the number of days in 12 lunar months.
If we divide the diameter of the Sun by 6 we get 144,000
The hands of our 24 hr clock go around 60 times 60 times 10, which is 36,000, the number of Arc degrees in one second times 10, which means each second is one 360th of a circle, times 100.
This shows that the Star of David was used as a kind of calculator to devise time and do complex equations using a hexadecimal system. The Egyptian number of perfection is 100, we divide 400 by 100 to get 4, we divide 600 by 100 we get 6. 4/6 is equal to 2/3 and 3/9, all of which have a ratio of 66.666666666, by which they can divide the Horizon down to seconds, and thus navigate the globe knowing both its dimensions and be able to make accurate maps.
86,400 ÷ 400 is 216
216 x 2 is 432
432 + 216 is 684
432 x 2 is 864
So rather than divide 864,000 by 2160, they divide 86,400 by 216, which is 400, rather than 40,000. This means a Megalithic Clock would go around 40 times, with each second broken down into tenths. 6 times 6 times 10; 3600. 400 ÷ 6 is 66.66666
These numbers all divide into each other. Half of 216 is 108, just as the Earth orbits the Sun at 108,000 km/hr. The interior angles of a regular Pentagon are also 108, and the interior angles of a Star of David add up to 1,440, times 100 is 144,000. Half of 108 is 54.
It takes 360 Full Moons to span the night sky Horizon to Horizon, 720 total, 72 times 3 is 216. 6 x 6 x 6 x 4 = 864
Which means a full moon is equivalent to 300 seconds, or 5 minutes, meaning 2 Full moons per 10 minutes. This means seconds represent tenths of the Moon, a Minute (6 times 10 times 10) being 2 Full Moons or 1 degree of arc. Multiply the Moon's diameter by 18.6, the number of years in a Metonic Cyle, and get 40,175, the diameter of the Earth plus 100. 40,000 times 100 is 4,000,000, the Earth's circumference in meters.
Multiply 18.6 by 2150 (actual diameter of the Moon) and you get 39,990, just 10 km short. This means they measured the Earth with the Orbit of the Moon, and based their metrics off of the Full Moon, cubing and squaring it to find the relationships between the heavenly bodies. Half of the Pyramid's base equals one 86,400th of the Earth's Circumference. Divide the Base by the height and get Pi. The height of the Great Pyramid times 43200 equals the Polar Circumference of the Earth.
Also the Circumference of the Base of the Great Pyramid times 43200
equals the Equatorial Circumference of the Earth.
An equilateral Triangle formed within the face of the Great Pyramid is 6,666 inches along each side, it represents one half of the Star of David, 720 degrees, as above so below, so we double it, 1440 ÷ 6 is 240, the number of hours on a clock times ten. 24 being 6 x 4, combining both ratios of of Sun and Moon, hence Solomon. The Pyramid itself is Squaring the Circle, by reducing the proportions of the cosmos to squares and roots based on Phi and Pi and Euler's number as a ratio to feet, and the Star of David is what allows them to do it, like a proto Antikythera mechanism.
I can't say if they went to hundredths of a second, because I'm not even that much of a mathematician (majician) but they definitely did tenths, and it equates to the same nautical metrics we use today.
Enoch also buries 36,525 scrolls, the number of days in a year, times 100. Oh by the way, this shows that our current measure of time is based on the principle of 1/6, the basis of an Egyptian Royal Cubit, but first they built the first ring at Stonehenge, which is 100 metres (330 ft) wide, with an area of 2160 square feet, a Cube's interior angles also add up to.. 2160.
This produces a Calendar of 60 6 day weeks plus five. Every 4th year a 366th day makes exactly 61 weeks. This means every 216 years this calendar produces 1 extra day, so after 648 years 3 days must be removed. This is when the Phoenix arrived, and stepped onto the Alter of Ra or Holy Grail, completing the Metonic cycle and bringing the Calendar back into sync with the first New Moon of the Spring equinox. The Capstone of the Pyramid is even called the Benben Stone, the Egyptian Phoenix is called the Bennu. It likely relates to Deneb, in Ophiuchus, the 13th Starsign of the Zodiac. The base of the Pyramid is exactly 13 Acres, as is Teotihuacan, because they share the exact same base dimensions.
Such a location would be ideal for calculating the speed of light using the transit of Venus. Incidentally the Great Pyramid's Latitudinal coordinates are the speed of light.
1440 ÷ 108 = 13.333333
11 and 3 are the most sacred Celtic numbers of royalty, and also happen to be the proportions of the Earth to the Moon, and the Great Pyramid.
The starsigns also precess 1 degree every 72 years
72 x 3 is 216
2160 ÷ 648 is 3.3333333
The Aztec Calendar also begins with a double transit of Venus, in 3116BC.
This whole code can be encoded into a single Pythagorean Triangle of Dimensions 666 by 630, by 216, this is the Key of Solomon, 33 is the inverse of 66.
100 is the "perfect number" because it represents 10 6 unit metrics times 10 6 unit metrics, a unit being 6.66
ie 60 x 60 (3600) the number of Arcdegree seconds in a second, or a one second unit on a clock the size of Earth
This means seconds represent 10ths of the Moon; 216, or 6 x 6 x 6 (100 ÷ 6 ÷ 6 = 2.7): Euler's number, and the number of feet to a Megalithic Yard, 3/11 is .27 and the number of days in a sidereal month is also 27.
11/3 is 3.66, the number of days in a Canicular leap year, the character of Thoth, Cuchulainn, and kukulkan, the Dog Star, and star by which the Sothic Calendar is determined. 3 x 11 is 33, the years in a Great Solar Return. As the Sun and Moon inhabit respective house of the Zodiac they animate the character within, playing out the dramas and battles we know as myths, for example the Moon traveling through each of the Zodiac houses each month, for a grand total of... 144 (12 x 12)
This was an excellent doc loved it!!!
Great documentary. Very good visuals and enactments and the flow of the story. Also loved the translation of the professors with their voice in the background as well to get the feeling of talking to them.
You mean these aren't the real people...😂
This one caught my attention for sure!
I remember back when we didn't have cell phones or GPS. We would just look at a map for a few minutes and be on our way. Nobody calling and asking where you are or when will you arrive. I really miss those days. These young adults and teenagers nowadays would be lost without cell phones and GPS.
I remember those days,... getting lost left and right. lol
For someone like me with no sense of direction. GPS is a life saver.
Yeah I remember taking a few minutes to look at a map... And after a few minutes of studying... I slowly realize it's upside down...
Yea because we don't know how to read a map. L.al
Maps are fine but I prefer the new stuff
Miss those days for sure although the young adults/teenagers I know know how to read a topography map, but do agree alot do just rely on their phones.
Most educated navigators of the era used an astrolabe, a celestial navigation device. It's use was common knowledge among cartographers 500 years ago.
in the 15th and 16th centuries, the Europeans used what's called a "mariners astrolabe" developed by the Portuguese, which was a modification of the more ancient Arab and Persian astrolabe
Some of the ancient maps were quite beautiful. I believe they were only detailed by and for, those who were on the oceanic trade route or passed down orally by nomadic ppl. I often think about what the sky must have looked like in a world without light pollution and how it made use of the sextant.
I feel as though there are still many places on earth that are void of any unnatural light pollution.
@@MrBalloonHanz it's actually a great question, I'd love to ask Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson!
@@ogenevieve the open ocean would be one of those places
Skies are usually clear over water. Check out a dark map
@@MrBalloonHanz nah gps overethe last 3o years
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Excellent work. However, a small correction: Henry the Navigator was not the king of Portugal. Actually, he was the brother of the kings Dom Duarte (1433-37)and Dom Pedro (during 1441-48), while regent until Dom Afonso V became king in 1448. Henry was also the Grand Master of the Order of Christ, responsible for the enterprise of the Portuguese discoveries. He established the Navigation School of Sagres and led the Portuguese effort of Discoveries until his death in 1460. As the Grand Master of the Order of Christ in Portugal, Henry the Navigator controlled extensive land holdings and wealth and had access to critical sources of revenue, including a significant share in the newly established slave trade with North West Africa to undertake the expensive enterprise of Discoveries.
My screen name on many FE debunking Sites is Court of Sagres (school of navigation) a name that was given to me in 1974 from an guide while on Survival trip in Explorer Scouts. One can only join the Explorer after achieving Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts. My Explorer Troup was 100% Survival, we were typically dropped solo with small survival pack, a watch and coordinates to a meeting place. I regularly challenge science deniers to a navigation bet, with only a watch their way from a blind drop off to a set of coordinates, first one arriving (me) wins and after a few days we might send out a rescue team. My dad gave me my first sextant on my 16th birthday and my first wife found me a map table from a 1500s ship, during a restore we discovered a hidden section with 2 maps, a journal, a sextant and a sun compass from the 1520's. Love this show.
Sketches of coastlines from different angles amalgamated. With star viewing, sun and moon
In the Vatican museum there is a map of Italy which is 99.9% accurate to what we know today
That ‘s beyond my comprehension on their ability to do it.
I could do it.
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You did not mention the map's age.
The Vatican also has a museum, or storage, not open to the public. I wonder what they are hiding?
I've always thought ancient peoples used the oceans and seas like highways, traded with each other, warred, intermarried, and civilizations have come and gone
but that highway current sends you where ever, like how its easier to get pushed to africa then to sail north. It be cool if more groups used them like the Polynesian did.
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What evidence did you have to always think that? Or was it just some gut feeling or intuition? You drawing wisdom from mother Gaia during your guided meditation sessions Pat?
They did to a small degree, but think more about it in terms of trading around the Mediterranean for a group of cultures. When trading happenned on the silk road, or travelling across the coast from arabia to india, it would be months and even years before the merchants recieved their goods.
It was rare in ancient times to leave sight of the coast lines. So whilst a lot of trade happened, it would feel like slow motion in todays concept.
Wars took years to prepare and execute. Empires last centuries. Many amalgamated, and/or were decimated after decades of fighting.
Sea's werent really highways at all, otherwise we would have seen most of the worlds civilizations progress and develop at similar rates. But as you can see, even in the last 300 years when the pacific ocean was finally properly navigated and documented, notne of that happened. Australia was "settled" in 1788, but up until that point, aboriginals had next to no contact with other people of the world, and their culture had not progressed much further than bush living, caves, basic hunting and gathering, and small tribal communities (they never had a need to due to almost zero outside interference). This was also common with most Polynesian cultures before colonialism got to their neighbourhood.
The above cultures thrived for thousands upon thousands of years without full scale european style warring. Which, to me, makes history and learning the timelines so interesting.
@@markgregory983 Or Arab style warring.
Such an interesting topic, pretty cool
Columbus was Portuguese, not Italian. Amerigo Vespucci didn't make it to the Americas until 1497. Italians couldn't have it that Columbus wasn't Italian. So, They named the "newfound" continents after Vespucci. It was ALL political, just like today.
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Great informative video. I always wondered how ancient explorers mapped out the world 🌎.
the only way was astronomy
they likely did it with satellites. the accuracy of the maps could not have been done without advanced technology.
@@trp2413 there are ancient maps for certain parts of the world that could never have been done without advanced technology. of course the maps your talking about were done crudely because they did not have access to the technology. we are not the first technologically advanced modern society. there have been many uncountable ones before us
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Because the world is flat
Is a really good / informational / etc documentary, however the background music feels a bit 'sinister' (idk if 'sinister' is the best word to describe the tone set by the background music, it's just closest word I can think of at the moment) so doesn't really match a documentary about maps.
I really enjoy your documentaries, have been a follower/fan for several years now. Keep up the great work!!🙂
What they won't tell you...They used older source maps from people who mapped the world before them.
And then how did they do it . ¿ ~ .
It's all good .
@@shaneanderson2106 the stars
I still get lost in my own neighborhood. I can only imagine, where I would have ended up, had I lived in ancient times. Probably at the bottom of the ocean.
I agree lol
The ancients were more intelligent than we give them credit for
More precisely, they were just as intelligent as we are. They simply had less information to work with. Many times they had to make decisions even in the absence of solid facts. They did and sometimes they paid the ultimate price for it.
Europeans colonized the same people that thought them how to navigate the seas.
Tankyou very much for sharing this video 🙏🌹🌹🙏🇲🇾
This was very interesting. I'm going to watch it a second time. Thank you very much.
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38:50 Proverbs 22:16
“He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.” Ecc 1:9 now humans will serve the "Sea Peoples" aka the Contollers Eph 6:12 as human batteries.
How amazing was this, thank you.
Name on serious non-fiction book you have read in your life.
@@johnsmith1474 Obviously, unless you wrote it, all else is fiction.
@@johnsmith1474 what was the point of that comment?
Columbus was portuguese. He was bored in Cuba, Alentejo, Portugal.
He was the son of a portuguese prince.
Yes I was convinced by a documentary on that. He had Italian connections but he was Portuguese. I am also curious about possible connections with Chinese maps...
It must of taken countless generations to see the stars and planets and their positions and pass that knowledge down.
The makers of this documentary couldn’t help but scratch their Eurocentric skulls. There is so much more interesting history outside of Europe.
There were many accidental preventions for ship scurvy, lack of vitamin C. Polynesians had coconuts for thirst and food, Captain Cooke was a big believer in pickled cabbage, North American native seafarers used smoked fruit berry patties. And so on. Oh yes, Spanish discoverd south American potatoes, good also source of scurvy prevention they found by trial and error - also a good vitamin C source.
Also British captains found that the lime fruit had very good source of scurvy prevention...and quite a few stocked their ships with the fruit...one reason that they were called ''limeys''
@@ChristophersMum still are lol
@@ChristophersMum yeah. Those limey b*****ds.
I've read in "1491" the Chinese had ships so large that they grew crops on them .
@@waitaminute2015 brilliant book
The 1491 video is not available in Canada? Why?
WOW,,This is super awesome
Love this vid so much!
But could love it more without weird loud background noise.
Sweet sugar cane grows like grass because it IS grass.
Henry the Navigator was never a king, but a prince... he was one of the youngest sons of João I (John the first). He was the Duke of Viseu and grand master of the military order of Christ. During his life three different kings reigned in Portugal: D. João I (John the first), his father; D. Duarte (king Edward), his older brother; and Afonso V, his nephew.
Sailors were called limies, because they ate limes, to prevent scurvy
Specifically British sailors - other countries used lemons 😊
I wonder which sailor with scurvy ate a bunch of limes and suddenly felt better, and decided to tell the others. Lol.
@@R.Tafolla Which sailor went through all the different foods before deciding limes/lemons were the way to go? 😂
Only British Sailors were referred to as limeys and I believe that was given to them by The Americans but yes fresh lime juice does ward off scurvy along with fresh vegetables to and of course hygiene
@@shawnwhitehead3062 Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency; hygiene, good or bad, wouldn't have an impact on it all...
Word of mouth - knapsack and a babel fish....
How courageous, gifted and determined travelling merchants must have been in the past.
Mapping goes back a lot further than the Sumerians. We just don't have records of it before then. Check out the Pyrie Reis maps 500 years old yet they would require satellites to produce with that accuracy. This video claims that nobody had maps in the dark ages and middle ages and yet they did. I am not sure why they would say there were no maps. Possibly the maps had to be hidden from the Church to not get in trouble(Being burned at the stake or being torchered to death in some way).
Columbus was possibly aware of the Reis map. It shows the entire world including Antarctica but omits the west side of north and parts of South America.
Really enjoyed your narrative. Filled in some blanks for me. Very entertaining too.
if you want some blanks filled in watch lost history of earth and you will see what they show us are nothing like our relim
@@burnbabyburn-od5sy I searched "lost history of earth" on YT and got no hits
@@notreally2406 go to u tube and type lost history of earth, by ryan its a 6 hour video yet its the most info you will ever get in one place and u need to watch it all or it will make no sense at all, time to wake up good luck
I think perhaps they had a sense we have lost. Wasn’t there a study that said because we use GPS our center for the ability to recall directions is sputtering out?
nope humans aren't birds we never had such ability even the apes or any other mammals do their rutes by generatinos after generatinos learning the routes....
@@maszkalman3676 did you look it up?
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 yeah no one is claiming peoples had buildt in gps only cookie nonsensical peoples the likes of flat earthers or hoteps...
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 We have tools to aid our memories. so yes, we probably don't remember things as well. but we also don't have to.
Although I use GPS at times, I know my sense of direction is lost unless I look at a map of the overall area before heading out.
Something wrong with this story. The Portuguese did cross the ocean and did land in South America, Venezuela in fact. They also found out about what became known as "The Gulfstream", strong wind blowing South to north along the American continant. They charted the route accordingly.
When Columbus pretended to reach India by going West, He already knew about the New Continant, he was in posession of stolen Portuguese charts ! The thing is, he did not pay attention to the Gulfstream and ended up on an Island close to North America. Ence, Islands called "West Indies". Columbus NEVER put a foot on American soil. He had been recalled to Spain (empty handed, no gold) and never went back. some other Spanish sailor years later went from the newly called West Indies to discover mainland America (North America).
This is real history and well documented !
yes. We will believe you when you submit your proof here.
Columbus made it to the Caribbean. The Caribbean is part of the Americas.
Provide proof of the Portuguese map if you want anybody to believe that story.
No.
Spain did not exist until 1784-1810, where the kings could use king of spain title for the first time!
I must say, a very good and enjoyable series!! 👍👍 ...only, weren't the Dutch the first Europeans to Australia; some even say the Portuguese.
To see, or to set foot on?
Is it possible that after months and months at sea, they were so nearby the Australian coast and didn't get off for a little wander around...? 😊
@@WillyatSea I'd have to dig around in the archives probably, but I think the Portuguese were slightly earlier on the scene (North coast). The Dutch later charted and explored the West coast of Australia, and probably were the first to make contact with Maori (not that that ended well...)
You overlooked one small thing: You named the Compass and Sextant (kinda skipping over the Astrolabe), but you didn't mention the invention of an accurate shipboard chronometer.
This misses out mention of all the navigational information by non-European cultures, and downplays all the extensive trading and exploration done before the colonisation era - like a lot. I know this is told from a European perspective, but you'd think the Muslim, Indian and Chinese had never contributed anything the way this is told.
What this doesn't mention is that while the Europeans were grasping around in the dark since the Middle Ages trying to explore and map places, entire empires all over the world were confidently travelling seafaring and overland routes across and around the continents of the world. The Europeans had to "re-discover" everything because they ignored or wiped out that knowledge.
Here be dragons no more.
You guys have produced this
I wondered this and it's cool to see it on video but I also wondered who and how did we invent time 🤔
Not invent but what then?
Yeah,I get your drift mate.
I think you meant how did we learn to measure time?
@@bradthompson5383 Yep.. and isn't it a shame there are so many college kids running around that don't even know how many minutes are in an hour. At this rate, humanity will not only lose all it has accomplished but we'll have the brain function of amoebas. Watching these videos where the guy walks around asking college age kids basic questions & they literally have no idea, is more than worrisome. I mean one girl guessed the Earth, her own planet.. has 6 moons. We're doomed. Our greatest days are behind us lol
@@Anglo_Saxon1 ya that too 😎
My god you cannot possibly be so simple.
scholars always knew that the earth is round. year 820, the arabs, harun al rashid established the house of wisdom and the school of algebra. they sent two expeditions, north, west, and determined the size of the earth quite accurately. They used sextants, astrolabs, ... so these tools were known loooong time ago.
Thanks! That was a nice review. Somehow it would seem like burning the libraries at Alexandria and other seats of learning retarded our understanding of cartography quite a bit! I wish it were not for dominance and riches that the world got discovered by European civilization. Navigating by compass is not as easy as it looks, but it will get you there with a decent map.
Your remark about dominance and exploitation shows how profoundly you have been brainwashed by history (popular or otherwise) written from the point of view of the French Enlightenment, which blamed man's problems on religion, especially Catholicism.
The early navigators were seeking paths to the east in order to gain wealth to be used to prevent and oppose Muslim invasions of Europe, invasions which Portugal and Spain knew all too well. With such wealth, it would be possible to finance and grow armies, navies, and cavalry fit for repelling Muslim military expansionism. Islam was not forced to stop invading Europe until its defeat at the Battle of the Gates of Vienna on September 11, 1683 (a date all serious Muslims know), and all European rulers knew Islam was a serious threat. Hence, the special interest that Portugal and Spain had in circumnavigation for the purpose of engaging in spice trade that could finance Reconquista and counterattack against an aggressive Islam that was officially opposed in the West until 1096.
Awesome Documentary
That "age of discovery & mapmaking" will always be fascinating & kinda impossible to imagine blank spaces on the map, in the age of satellite imagery!
really hope humanity will make it into another age of discovery when we master spacetravel!, if we dont wipe us idiots off the planet first!
Here there be dragons, but the satellites can't find them.
Amen.
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Accurate and informative documental..like the map of the world..Thank You..!!
So much information in such a small time period. So much information within the human body itself. So much information zooming in and zooming out towards the rest of the universe… in different time periods. I want to learn more, I feel an urge to know more 😢
Have you read "1491" about the Chinese?
@@waitaminute2015 no, but I’m intrigued and I’ll be sure to pick it up next time I hit a book store. Thanks!
Stay curious🧐
Anyone else put this on at night, then fall asleep?
of course. i use universe doc as well.. antique, first cities docs too, Human evolution are my favourite
Absolutely superb documentary
,,, you spelled stupid wrong... lol
Yes. 💋s to you from Mars.
Yes, I really enjoyed it also.
It's fascinating to play mind games with your grandchildren to discover when they understand the concept of the plan or birds-eye view.
Really educating
I think you mean very educational.
@@WoodysAR My Allah!
The piri reis map and the positioning of the great monuments being in such a way that they line up with each other is absolute proof they had mapped the entire globe many millennia ago. There is other incredible evidence such as the measurements of the great pyramid relating to the diameter of the earth and being in the centre of the earth's land mass theres even evidence in its dimensionsthat they knew the precise distanceto the moon. I found the way the monuments line up to be utterly dumfounding. Christianity believed Jerusalem was the spiritual centre thus the centre of the earthly world whereas the great pyramid of Egypt is in fact at the centre of the earthly world it goes to show just how advanced they were.
Blaze's Ancient Aliens geniuses would say our ancestors learned to map the world because aliens came down from on high to give them that information. They also told them how to build pyramids in Egypt and temples in South America. And gave them knowledge of how to make concrete. Funny how these ancient aliens didn't tell architects how to build the Shard isn't it?
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LOL. I always had a question for the ancient alien theorists. If the interstellar traveling aliens taught our ancestors how to build things, why did they only use stones? Where are the exotic metals ?
@@aemrt5745 I’ve thought about that too 😂
@@aemrt5745 lol were so dumbed down now we do not even know who we are, we r like programed robots, a slave race in a prison and worst of all we think we're free 😭 but the ancient humans who built these beautiful buildings did put precious metals and stones ie..... Gold, platinum, diamonds, emeralds, rubies etc... On these buildings (the pyramids have been stripped they were smooth and now been stripped back to the stone and it looks like big steps all way up the outside of them)
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Imagine waking up one morning, 2000 years ago and say. "Im going to build myself a wooden boat and sail towards the sun. Just to see what's over there". What guts!!
Thanks for this magnificent video.
4:02 , KNOW THE HEIGHTS OF YOUR MOUNTAINS, IS YOUR FRESH WATERWAYS, SNOW COLD FUSION, LET THAT NOTBE REDUCED FURTHER, MOUNTIES
if the chinese admiral zheng he was not forbidden to further navigate and explore the open seas..
both the old and the new world would have been colonized by china, christianity would not be wide spread and buddhism would be the dominant religion today
But Zhu Gaozhi did put an end to the voyages, and that was the end of that.
@@whtalt92
yeah!
Thanks!
Christopher Colon was from Cuba , Portugal
Thank you, this nice
Even though we have computers now doesn't mean we can't still use the compass & charts for backup when glitches & malfunctions happen....
Even the stars... We should never forget the foundations... Of navigation ..
Well done. I wish Time Line could find an old documentary concerning the intensive efforts to map Normandy for D Day. I have found others discussing it, but there was one I came across years ago that I can no longer find. I saved and book marked it, but it just disappeared from Y.T.
The planners of D Day resorted to asking for maps of tourists to try to get info on the beaches. Some landing zones were not as expected.
Great doc
Very ancient cultures had maps.For example,through travels to far off lands for trade,first by ships,there are still some records from long before the pre-Alexandrianperiod.They were maps resulting from trade and the ancient Greek sea travel diaries, "Periplous".Am sure the Chinese have theirs,too but we haven't investigated.Many have been lost or are in private collections or in libraries/ Bibliotecas in Spain,Italy, England, Morocco ,the U.S.,etc.There are books on "Secret Libraries."Much more
investigation needs to be done through
collaboration between people who kept a long history track - record.
The Vatican has a museum that is not public. I wonder what treasure and information is still being held there.
@@waitaminute2015 You can visit the Vatican library if you have academic credentials
@@histguy101 but not the super secret part