People that use the term primary/secondary or anything else besides master/slave don't actually understand what's going on behind the scenes to realize that master/slave is the logically correct terminology and that anything else wouldn't make sense. This has nothing to do with humans. This is not directed at humans. It makes no sense to get offended by it. Thanks for using the correct terms, and thanks for the videos.
This was a gem. And please, I’m black but everyone should understand what you mean when you’re talking about master and slave when it comes to these machines. Carry on! And thanks so much!
Being black has nothing to do with "master" vs. "slave." There have been more white slaves than any other race in history, but who really cares. Religion has been the top divider of people causing mass persecution and "slavery." Just look at the Jewish Holocaust. Everyone knows racism is wrong and that slavery is evil but in the music industry it makes perfect sense and has been used since the creation of MIDI devices. Glad the presenter doesn't give an "F" as people are too easily offended today in this mentally ill, "politically correct" environment of paranoia and fear. Solid video. Thumbs up.
Yes, especially since there's been slaves of all races since the beginning. There's no reason why one race should hold the monopoly on being sensitive about the words master and slave. Some people just wake up each day hoping to find something to be angry about, so they have something to post on TikTok.
i wish the model 16 had midi! this is such a great feature! i usually just have aaaall my synth and electronics into a 12 channel stereo mixer and put the stereo outs into my dp-24 mk2 multitrack... the one they took midi off of... i just have to have REALLY good timing pressing start doing overdubs. this feature sounds so relieving. ps: the track sounds great! youve sold me on upgrading from the dp-24 to this
Excellent tutorial using midi. I am a guitar player and singer but I also use my Korg Pa4x styles for generating backing tracks using the single finger style as I cannot change chords quickly enough.This tutorial has given me some great ideas. So far I have tried using my DAW software to control the tempo, program changes and bank changes along with other control changes to select the various styles, intros and breaks but your tutorial shows a more efficient and less time consuming way to achieve the same result, I have the Tascam Model 12 but it never occurred to me to use it with my Pa4x until I saw this video. I was mainly looking for tips on how to use the Tascam Model 12 as an audio interface. Keep up the great work. Regards. Alan
@@totalSLACK You may not be familiar with it or like it but it doesn't make it stupid. It's' actually in use in elements of the computing industries. You can use whatever terms you like, but can you get an entire industry to agree?
@@totalSLACK I get it now. You're just a troll with no sense of common decency. I should have guessed by your username. TotalSlack, as in total slacker? You aren't capable of engaging in a reasonable conversation with an alternate viewpoint. Do you simply call everything stupid that you do not understand? Your ignorance precedes you. Not exactly something to be proud of. How very sad for you.
I do mostly live band recording and my own tunes. But, I have a nice MIDI keyboard and have it plugged into my model 12 but have not tried yet. I 👍 the video and will use it as I try it out tonight. Your comments on Master/ Slave are fine by me. People make everything an issue these days. Thanks from New _York
Wait 😂😂😂…a disclaimer on the use of master and slave terminology in the context of audio? This world is nuts! Thanks for the video! Continue dropping these gems!
Exactly. It annoys me when people don't understand that words can mean completely different things depending on context, and/or be appropriate depending on subject
OMG! This exactly the type of setup I had back in the days with my old faithful Tascam 688 Midi Studio and my Korg i30 Interactive Midi Workstation! I actually did more music with that setup than with the PC. I regret selling my Tascam 688. But the i30 unfortunately got extremely used but still worked. Now, I'm syncing to iPad and considering the Model 12 to revive that ease of use and recording again. Good video!
@@RecordingStudio9 yeah, I ended up ordering one! Got an amazing deal couldn't pass it up. Will need to see how to hook up the monitors as right now I'm using a sound card with RCA Jack outs.
People actually got upset about an established term to explain a technological relationship? 😳 A few weeks back a co-worker and I were agreeing about the inefficiencies of a particular social system…. Right up until I said the SYSTEM was “retarded”. 🤦🏽♂️ All of a sudden she accused me of attacking people with disabilities. Despite the context of the conversation. This is a brave new world 🌎 my friend. #❄️ #WTF
LOL! Hang on, you can't say disabled people! You have to say "people will less physical or cognitive ability", otherwise, you are talking down to them. LOL! Enjoy the tutorial.
Hello! Thanks for the great video. I was looking to sync my Squarp Pyramid from Tascam and this looks like the answer! I do have a question - how did you record Korg sections (drums, base, lead, etc.) into different channels? Was it over USB using a daw in your computer? Is it possible in a dawless setup? Thanks in advance!
This video demonstrates a DAW-less operation. I use MIDI to sync the Korg to Model 12. First record the arrangement in the Korg built in sequencer, then, set the clock to external MIDI, now the Model 12 controls the start and stop of the Korg sequencer. Mute all sequencer tracks accept the one you like to record onto the Model 12 via audio cables. Every time you start from the beginning to record the next instrument sound, all tracks will line up. Hope this helps.
Thanks for this great and informative video. It seems that the TASCAM Model 12 is currently the only Standalone Multitrack Recorder with MIDI I/O on the market. I am owner of the Zoom R24. The R24 has no MIDI and it is not possible to sync external midi devices. So i don't use the Zoom R24 almost no more. I am now considering buying the Tascam.
Great video. I have watched several of yours several times and learn something new each time. I have a Jupiter xm and an MPC One plus. I am hopping to add a Jupiter x as I can control the 5 parts manually in which case I would like to record to 7-8 or 9-10. The Jupiter xm I am hoping to do track separation onto tracks 1-2. 2-3,4. This leaves 5 and 6 for stereo left right from my rodecaster which has my piano and mics. I don’t have the Tascam yet and am wondering if what I am saying makes sense. I plan on using the Mpc one as the master, parent. Primary, boss, king, etc and all connected via powered usb hour. Awesome video and it was cool to see you groove in this video. It is clear you love this!
Will this pass the keyboard midi notes to DAW while recording? It would be nice to have the midi track in addition in case I wanted to make changes in the DAW later while recording my stage piano audio during tracking.
Do you know how to send midi CC message from the tascam to external hardware ? Is it through midi clock or midi time code ? Is it based oh metronome settings? Unfortunately the manual does not help
TASCAM doesn’t support midi recording to support midi CC sends. You can send midi CC from your DAW via TASCAM MIDI 2 output which is the physical 5-pin socket at the back.
@RecordingStudio9 and how do i send midi CC from my DAW? I mean , after i enable the reception of messages from the DAW application, being in DAW control mode and having set the DAW application, where and how do i insert a message cc with a value of 0 for example ( i want to control a delay pedal that accepts midi messages from 0-127)
Great job btw, you really helped me a lot as I'm new to synths (I'm a guitarist) and a total beginner when it comes to recording. The M12 seems like a good choice. I've read the manual, but I think it could be a bit better written/structured for beginners.
Hi..... I have a Q..... So if I connect my Model 12 as an interface to cubase and I am recording audio, Like piano and bass. And then I want to use one vst instrument like a synth or string in my cubase which I play with my midi keyboard, Can I make it sound via the Model 12? Q2.... 4 example....I have a multi track in my cubase(audio)....like a piano and bass and a midi guitar recorded and I want to run them trough my model 12 so I can mix them with mi model 12....I know the audio(Piano and bass) will go trough the model 12 channels, but how about the midi guitar wich is also recorded....can that also go trough a channel on my model 12? Thnx for your time 😀✌🏽
So you had to play that Song 3 times (to Isolate each Instrument) on the KORG to record them independently to the Tascam Model 12 Once for the Drums, Once again for the Bass & Once again for the Strings ? I find this very interesting as I have just purchased a Ketron X4 Arranger Module ( No keyboard version as I use MIDI Guitars to trigger the X4 ) and was wondering how I was going to Isolate each instrument and record them to my MODEL -12's separate Channels ) Love Your Channel Mate .... Thank You Joe Busuttil in Tassie/Australia
Correct, since there is a sync, each time you play (muting all but one instrument) they end up in sync on playback. Any additional instruments can be played and recorded live on any available M12 tracks.
Master/Slave has been used in music and computer language for decades. Who cares about all these hypersensitive language police. I understood exactly what you meant BECAUSE you said "master" and "slave" Had you said Primary and Secondary, i probably would've been a little confused.
You originally recorded the music on 9/10 So then did you bounce that to 8/9 to put the drums on 9/10? Then what ever channel you arm like. 7 for the bass, the keyboard automatically records to channel 7 through the midi?
I recorded a test on 9/10, then I recorded just drums on 9/10. Moved the cables to 7/8 and recorded stereo instruments. Moved one cable to 6 and recorded bass as mono. There is a track bounce/swap option on TASCAM, but it's easier to move the cables.
After the all the MIDI tracks are recorded once onto 9/10, is there a way to separate them out and bounce say just drums or just bass to other tracks internally within the Model 12 (i.e., without moving cables and recording again from your keyboard?) As far as I understand it what is recorded initially on 9/10 would be audio, correct? So if it’s possible to bounce just one of the tracks that’s included in that audio internally within the Model 12 I’m just a little perplexed about how that would work…
@@mojorises No, current,y no mixer is capable of separating instruments from a stereo track. I record each instrument on the tracks I need. To avoid moving cables, you can record on any tracks and swap them to an empty one.
No that's what's nice about the Tascam SD 24 or SD 32 is you can be plugged in to any channel you want and assign that channel to record on any channel you want you can't do that on the model mixers you can either record on one channel and swap that to an open channel or you have to move your cables
Instead of master/slave I've learned to correct myself into saying Primary/Secondary instead. It gets across the same message without the problematic phrasing basically. Thanks for making these videos they are incredibly helpful!
People that use the term primary/secondary or anything else besides master/slave don't actually understand what's going on behind the scenes to realize that master/slave is the logically correct terminology and that anything else wouldn't make sense. This has nothing to do with humans. This is not directed at humans. It makes no sense to get offended by it.
Thanks for using the correct terms, and thanks for the videos.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for making this.
Glad it was helpful!
This was a gem. And please, I’m black but everyone should understand what you mean when you’re talking about master and slave when it comes to these machines. Carry on! And thanks so much!
Being black has nothing to do with "master" vs. "slave." There have been more white slaves than any other race in history, but who really cares. Religion has been the top divider of people causing mass persecution and "slavery." Just look at the Jewish Holocaust. Everyone knows racism is wrong and that slavery is evil but in the music industry it makes perfect sense and has been used since the creation of MIDI devices. Glad the presenter doesn't give an "F" as people are too easily offended today in this mentally ill, "politically correct" environment of paranoia and fear. Solid video. Thumbs up.
Yes, especially since there's been slaves of all races since the beginning. There's no reason why one race should hold the monopoly on being sensitive about the words master and slave. Some people just wake up each day hoping to find something to be angry about, so they have something to post on TikTok.
@@ToRFlow and then some people can't take jokes. It takes all types!
Thanks!
Glad it was helpful and Thank You for your support.
i wish the model 16 had midi! this is such a great feature! i usually just have aaaall my synth and electronics into a 12 channel stereo mixer and put the stereo outs into my dp-24 mk2 multitrack... the one they took midi off of... i just have to have REALLY good timing pressing start doing overdubs. this feature sounds so relieving.
ps: the track sounds great! youve sold me on upgrading from the dp-24 to this
Excellent tutorial using midi. I am a guitar player and singer but I also use my Korg Pa4x styles for generating backing tracks using the single finger style as I cannot change chords quickly enough.This tutorial has given me some great ideas. So far I have tried using my DAW software to control the tempo, program changes and bank changes along with other control changes to select the various styles, intros and breaks but your tutorial shows a more efficient and less time consuming way to achieve the same result, I have the Tascam Model 12 but it never occurred to me to use it with my Pa4x until I saw this video. I was mainly looking for tips on how to use the Tascam Model 12 as an audio interface. Keep up the great work. Regards. Alan
Very good demo of the capabilities of the Model 12. I think you've convinced me that a Tascam Model is the way to go.
It is a great machine. Unfortunately I don’t use mine much, but it looks very sweet in the studio.
@@davidosolo feel like selling yours? 😉
@@totalSLACK Hell no! It is a beauty. 😄
do it like Depeche Mode and call it „master and servant“ because it‘s a lot like life :-D
Great video. I've always been confused with midi. This definitely helped. What are you using as your model 12 stand?
Ok I found the answer to the question about the model 12 stand in the thread. Music Stand, good idea.
Glad it helped!
I’m using a large music stand.
VERY nice explanation and walk through
Thank you!
Parent/child is a common and established way of saying the same thing. Nice vid, thanks!
As a newbie to MIDI and the Tascam 12 this was very helpful. FYI: Parent/Child is the updated terminology.
you're kidding, right? thats so stupid. what about dom/sub?
@@totalSLACK You may not be familiar with it or like it but it doesn't make it stupid. It's' actually in use in elements of the computing industries. You can use whatever terms you like, but can you get an entire industry to agree?
@@Sam-ss2lo I can't roll my eyes any harder than I did reading your way too serious stupid post
@@totalSLACK I get it now. You're just a troll with no sense of common decency. I should have guessed by your username. TotalSlack, as in total slacker? You aren't capable of engaging in a reasonable conversation with an alternate viewpoint. Do you simply call everything stupid that you do not understand? Your ignorance precedes you. Not exactly something to be proud of. How very sad for you.
Master-slave is fine, thank you for this information.
For sync, Leader/Follower has always made sense to me. MIDI is more of a guide for some devices.
Thanks for making this video, good info. Its always been stated as such. Same for computers.. never heard otherwise...
I do mostly live band recording and my own tunes. But, I have a nice MIDI keyboard and have it plugged into my model 12 but have not tried yet. I 👍 the video and will use it as I try it out tonight. Your comments on Master/ Slave are fine by me. People make everything an issue these days. Thanks from New _York
Who you tellin, take a moment to read my comment above and have a laff 😂
Wait 😂😂😂…a disclaimer on the use of master and slave terminology in the context of audio? This world is nuts! Thanks for the video! Continue dropping these gems!
Nice tutorial! Groovy too!
You have a really useful channel, sir.
Glad you think so!
Master-slave is fine, its describing the relationship between 2 pieces of machinery!
Exactly. It annoys me when people don't understand that words can mean completely different things depending on context, and/or be appropriate depending on subject
OMG! This exactly the type of setup I had back in the days with my old faithful Tascam 688 Midi Studio and my Korg i30 Interactive Midi Workstation! I actually did more music with that setup than with the PC. I regret selling my Tascam 688. But the i30 unfortunately got extremely used but still worked.
Now, I'm syncing to iPad and considering the Model 12 to revive that ease of use and recording again. Good video!
Thanks. If you require recording and mixing with no PC, Model 12/16 are a great choice.
@@RecordingStudio9 yeah, I ended up ordering one! Got an amazing deal couldn't pass it up.
Will need to see how to hook up the monitors as right now I'm using a sound card with RCA Jack outs.
Thank you for the helpful video. Please, how do you have your Tascam mounted more vertically? I need to conserve space. Thank you for your tine.
Placed on a large sturdy music stand.
People actually got upset about an established term to explain a technological relationship? 😳 A few weeks back a co-worker and I were agreeing about the inefficiencies of a particular social system…. Right up until I said the SYSTEM was “retarded”. 🤦🏽♂️ All of a sudden she accused me of attacking people with disabilities. Despite the context of the conversation. This is a brave new world 🌎 my friend. #❄️ #WTF
LOL!
Hang on, you can't say disabled people! You have to say "people will less physical or cognitive ability", otherwise, you are talking down to them. LOL!
Enjoy the tutorial.
🤣
Don’t apologize. That’s the terminology used in music production . We all use it. Not your fault its used . Great video
Hello! Thanks for the great video. I was looking to sync my Squarp Pyramid from Tascam and this looks like the answer!
I do have a question - how did you record Korg sections (drums, base, lead, etc.) into different channels? Was it over USB using a daw in your computer? Is it possible in a dawless setup?
Thanks in advance!
This video demonstrates a DAW-less operation. I use MIDI to sync the Korg to Model 12. First record the arrangement in the Korg built in sequencer, then, set the clock to external MIDI, now the Model 12 controls the start and stop of the Korg sequencer. Mute all sequencer tracks accept the one you like to record onto the Model 12 via audio cables. Every time you start from the beginning to record the next instrument sound, all tracks will line up.
Hope this helps.
@@RecordingStudio9 Thank you so much! This does help!
Is this the answer to all my midi problems? All in one mixer that will hook up my machines to daw?
It could be. 🎹🎹
Thanks for this great and informative video.
It seems that the TASCAM Model 12 is currently the only Standalone Multitrack Recorder with MIDI I/O on the market. I am owner of the Zoom R24. The R24 has no MIDI and it is not possible to sync external midi devices. So i don't use the Zoom R24 almost no more. I am now considering buying the Tascam.
Model 12 is the only one in the range from TASCAM with MIDI I/O.
Great video. I have watched several of yours several times and learn something new each time. I have a Jupiter xm and an MPC One plus. I am hopping to add a Jupiter x as I can control the 5 parts manually in which case I would like to record to 7-8 or 9-10. The Jupiter xm I am hoping to do track separation onto tracks 1-2. 2-3,4. This leaves 5 and 6 for stereo left right from my rodecaster which has my piano and mics. I don’t have the Tascam yet and am wondering if what I am saying makes sense. I plan on using the Mpc one as the master, parent. Primary, boss, king, etc and all connected via powered usb hour. Awesome video and it was cool to see you groove in this video. It is clear you love this!
Take note that the Model 12 can only act as the master clock and you need to get MPC One to sync to Model one and not the way around you mentioned.
What do you use as your mixer stand? I’m looking to find something good for my Model 12 to free up some table space.
I used a strong metal music stand with wide legs.
Incredible there is not on the TASCAM 16 & 24 !
Will this pass the keyboard midi notes to DAW while recording? It would be nice to have the midi track in addition in case I wanted to make changes in the DAW later while recording my stage piano audio during tracking.
Yes, if you have the Model 12 connected via USB, any input from 5-pin MIDI can be recorded in a DAW, and vice versa.
@@RecordingStudio9 Awesome, good info! Maybe it's just me, this device seems to have fallen under the radar. Looking forward to trying it out.
Do you know how to send midi CC message from the tascam to external hardware ? Is it through midi clock or midi time code ? Is it based oh metronome settings? Unfortunately the manual does not help
TASCAM doesn’t support midi recording to support midi CC sends.
You can send midi CC from your DAW via TASCAM MIDI 2 output which is the physical 5-pin socket at the back.
@RecordingStudio9 and how do i send midi CC from my DAW? I mean , after i enable the reception of messages from the DAW application, being in DAW control mode and having set the DAW application, where and how do i insert a message cc with a value of 0 for example ( i want to control a delay pedal that accepts midi messages from 0-127)
Great job btw, you really helped me a lot as I'm new to synths (I'm a guitarist) and a total beginner when it comes to recording. The M12 seems like a good choice. I've read the manual, but I think it could be a bit better written/structured for beginners.
Glad I could help! Are you using the M12 standalone mode or connected to a PC? If in standalone mode, watch my video on the stereo inputs.
👍 Thank You! Good Tip
Glad it was helpful!
does it still work the same way with the PA5X?
Yes, it should work the same way.
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Hi..... I have a Q.....
So if I connect my Model 12 as an interface to cubase and I am recording audio, Like piano and bass. And then I want to use one vst instrument like a synth or string in my cubase which I play with my midi keyboard, Can I make it sound via the Model 12?
Q2....
4 example....I have a multi track in my cubase(audio)....like a piano and bass and a midi guitar recorded and I want to run them trough my model 12 so I can mix them with mi model 12....I know the audio(Piano and bass) will go trough the model 12 channels, but how about the midi guitar wich is also recorded....can that also go trough a channel on my model 12?
Thnx for your time 😀✌🏽
Both valid questions that require a video to show and explain. And yes, it’s possible.
@@RecordingStudio9 Yessss yessss....I ll be waiting for that video...THNX🙏🏽
So you had to play that Song 3 times (to Isolate each Instrument) on the KORG to record them independently to the Tascam Model 12
Once for the Drums, Once again for the Bass & Once again for the Strings ?
I find this very interesting as I have just purchased a Ketron X4 Arranger Module ( No keyboard version as I use MIDI Guitars to trigger the X4 ) and was wondering how I was going to Isolate each instrument and record them to my MODEL -12's separate Channels )
Love Your Channel Mate .... Thank You
Joe Busuttil in Tassie/Australia
Correct, since there is a sync, each time you play (muting all but one instrument) they end up in sync on playback. Any additional instruments can be played and recorded live on any available M12 tracks.
Master/Slave has been used in music and computer language for decades. Who cares about all these hypersensitive language police. I understood exactly what you meant BECAUSE you said "master" and "slave" Had you said Primary and Secondary, i probably would've been a little confused.
You originally recorded the music on 9/10 So then did you bounce that to 8/9 to put the drums on 9/10? Then what ever channel you arm like. 7 for the bass, the keyboard automatically records to channel 7 through the midi?
I recorded a test on 9/10, then I recorded just drums on 9/10. Moved the cables to 7/8 and recorded stereo instruments. Moved one cable to 6 and recorded bass as mono.
There is a track bounce/swap option on TASCAM, but it's easier to move the cables.
After the all the MIDI tracks are recorded once onto 9/10, is there a way to separate them out and bounce say just drums or just bass to other tracks internally within the Model 12 (i.e., without moving cables and recording again from your keyboard?) As far as I understand it what is recorded initially on 9/10 would be audio, correct? So if it’s possible to bounce just one of the tracks that’s included in that audio internally within the Model 12 I’m just a little perplexed about how that would work…
@@mojorises No, current,y no mixer is capable of separating instruments from a stereo track. I record each instrument on the tracks I need.
To avoid moving cables, you can record on any tracks and swap them to an empty one.
No that's what's nice about the Tascam SD 24 or SD 32 is you can be plugged in to any channel you want and assign that channel to record on any channel you want you can't do that on the model mixers you can either record on one channel and swap that to an open channel or you have to move your cables
Maybe in a future firmware update? Fingers crossed 🤞
Instead of master/slave I've learned to correct myself into saying Primary/Secondary instead. It gets across the same message without the problematic phrasing basically. Thanks for making these videos they are incredibly helpful!
LoL ok
@@aldonova4082 also don't forget to use the terms Non-binary Input/outs just incase, oh sh*t but it is binary I am confused now lol
Primary and secondary is not the same terminology as master and slave. Secondary is there if the primary fails and not necessarily follow the primary.
How cool if each knob was a midi cc! The ultimate midi controller 😮
It’s possible if TASCAM adds and updates the firmware.
Primary and secondary for Slave and Master, but to be honest that term is used in electronics all over the place.
How about using the term "Leader and Follower", this is more generic in nature and doesn't sound as offensive.