Thats how i do my knee braces, transom panel, and stringers, but with considerably lighter-weight core boarding because im not working on wave jumpers. This video is how most people think their boat is built, but only a small percentage of builders apply that level of workmanship and understanding of forces.
Thanks very much guys, love your methods. If I may make one criticism I found the music was way too loud relative to the talking, and I kept turning the volume down but then the talking was so quiet.
@@robertgray1214 And I take it your brain went (is) dead as well. Clearly, my eyes were not blind, otherwise why would I thank the authors and tell them I love their methods. It's pretty obvious I've seen what they were doing, in order for me to say that. It's obviously a little difficult for you to understand the concept of constructive criticism, so something good can be done even better. Try Googling about it so you can learn, but first ensure your brain is turned on, unlike when you made the bitchy comment to me.
@@robertgray1214 Wow. The poster had a valid and respectfully worded point of criticism and you resort to this? Point was the content is good, good enough for most to live with the audio track but it seems you don't realize that some people who take the time to critizise often do so in order to help others improve. I read it as such. Then again, I also thought the audio wasn't great - which is a pity as not everyone braves through it, I would think.
I needed this video. It is informative and oddly satisfying to see such a process. I jus bought my first project boat. 1970 17’ glasply. I couldn’t be more excited about doing stringers now!
Just getting ready to lay up my stringers on my 72 IMP Aztec. I love the way they did the lay up! I would have made more of a mess by NOT rolling up that material. LOVE IT!
Very interesting. Thanks. At the beginning, you said, "For the stringers we’re using 25-pound ??boardcore??, which is already glued in by ??cabosil??." I didn't catch those two words. Or I can't find them anywhere online. Please tell me what they are and where i can find out about them.
Thanks for the reply. I will be doing this soon on my 198125' Sea Ray Amberjack. The sun got the floor cracked but this project looks somehow fun to me to do. I wonder what people would charge to redo a floor like this. Again, thank you so much!
Use 5200 instead of CAB-O-SIL. CAB-O-SIL seems to crack over time, so it's best used for small fill spots. 5200 works much better in gluing applications like this. I noticed that boats I had done 5-8 years ago were coming back with cracks in the CAB-O-SIL, yet anything I had done in 5200 stayed solid.
@@howechilds5060 Let me explain a little better. The way they're doing it in the video is absolutely ok, it's just that it'll for sure crack somewhere down the line (the cab-o-sil itself). Most boat repairs/builds have about 5-10 years of use in mind before needing overhaul/repair work and I'm sure their build will hit that mark, but it's just not how I would do it. I used to glue floors and stringers with cab-o-sil until I had a few come back for repairs about 5 years down the line. Each boat needed a repair because the cab-o-sil had cracked. This is a glueing application (bonding two things together), and for gluing applications I now use 5200/construction adhesive. Cab-o-sil is still a great product for filling (making a surface even before/after applying fiberglass), but I think you'll have better results in your gluing using 5200/construction adhesive instead. It's slightly more difficult to work with, but that stuff lasts a very long time. I once saw a 150hp motor hanging from the back of a boat with no bolts or bracket, just 5200 (it was during engine removal). You can still use some cab-o-sil on the sides of the stringers that you glass over, but between the stringers and hull or between the stringers and floor I'd use 5200. If you guys have any other questions feel free to hit me up.
I was so impressed by the Coosa. Then I saw the butt joint to the plywood toward the stern. Wood has no place on my boat unless it’s decorative trim. Water will find a way. The strongest stringers at perpendicular to the mounting surface or direction of flex, yes is a bit more complicated to put a floor on.
Good video.. but the title is a bold claim.. I think "Wicked Wanda" has stronger stringers.. check into it.. I'm curious if you disagree. Still, good video!
Hi the Outer 😀, I love your team work. I have a question. You are using a "caper cell" ( sorry my english is pretty bad). That white clue you are using to stick stringers to the shell. I would like to know what is it made of please?
where I live cabosil is not available, and shipping costs make it far too expensive, All my locals use Talc, which can be purchased in 25 lb bags and is much cheaper than cabosil and it does a very good job, but is a little harder to mix thoroughly, but worth the savings.
Def using epoxy since it’s not wetting the material out all the way. The binders used in the material to hold it together till it’s wet out don’t dissolve in epoxy like they do in polyester. That’s why you’re not suppose to use those types of material with epoxy.
Hi, I'm about to re-stringer an old ski boat. Noob question: What product is the stringer you are using? I heard "25lb board core"? I'm not getting any useful results searching for that.
Either get rid of the "music" or at least reduce the volume of it by half. I can't hear you speak when I have the volume at a comfortable lever because the music is so loud.
@@donedealracingDDR so this one is use on bottom of wood stringers right, help it glue to bottom of hull? Cabosil mixed with 405 adhesive filler until it thickened
@@donedealracingDDR to add new stringer in boat, it needs to be on the air & not on trailer?? Someone mention that! & was planning on doing it on top of trailer
Love your work, But playing heavily based music while commentating is never a good idea! I understand you may love that music, But what makes you think your subscribers do!
Great work! No music at all would be best in my humble opinion. Most are here concentrating to learn the best way for their application. Music just causes distractions.
@@robmitchell3633 epoxy an polyester resins contain styrene, it eats your lungs from the inside out, use a full face mask with organic filters which observe styrene, I own a fiberglass business an its compulsory to wear them
@@robmitchell3633 I stand corrected, we use alot of polyester resin an little epoxy cause of the price difference, epoxy has the same effect when sanding as to us using mekp catalyst to polyester, it dose get into your lungs, believe what you may its your life
there is no styrene in West Systems or any epoxy for that matter. But, he did wear a mask when he was using the trim router so id say this comment was useless.
You gotta re edit this video and repost it. That music makes is unwatchable. You have to turn it down when you're not talking then turn it back up to hear what you're saying. The music is worse than nails on a chalkboard
30 year boat builder here. Coosa is all we use for stringer replacement now. It's forever.
perfect teamwork seniors in making the boat I'm impressed san salute you guys I give you a lot of enthusiasm
Wonderfully explained with a sense of charm and kudos to the hard worker on his knees great video
That was the best most professional job I've ever seen!
Best stringer install video I have seen! Great work
I agree! I went thru 13 other videos before finding yours and agreeing with the way you’ve built structural integrity into the hull.
Some really good practice here. BRAVO!
Thats how i do my knee braces, transom panel, and stringers, but with considerably lighter-weight core boarding because im not working on wave jumpers.
This video is how most people think their boat is built, but only a small percentage of builders apply that level of workmanship and understanding of forces.
Thanks very much guys, love your methods.
If I may make one criticism I found the music was way too loud relative to the talking, and I kept turning the volume down but then the talking was so quiet.
So I take it that your eyes went blind as well. Because you could clearly see what they're doing
@@robertgray1214 And I take it your brain went (is) dead as well. Clearly, my eyes were not blind, otherwise why would I thank the authors and tell them I love their methods. It's pretty obvious I've seen what they were doing, in order for me to say that.
It's obviously a little difficult for you to understand the concept of constructive criticism, so something good can be done even better. Try Googling about it so you can learn, but first ensure your brain is turned on, unlike when you made the bitchy comment to me.
@@robertgray1214 Wow. The poster had a valid and respectfully worded point of criticism and you resort to this?
Point was the content is good, good enough for most to live with the audio track but it seems you don't realize that some people who take the time to critizise often do so in order to help others improve. I read it as such. Then again, I also thought the audio wasn't great - which is a pity as not everyone braves through it, I would think.
I needed this video. It is informative and oddly satisfying to see such a process. I jus bought my first project boat. 1970 17’ glasply. I couldn’t be more excited about doing stringers now!
Just getting ready to lay up my stringers on my 72 IMP Aztec. I love the way they did the lay up! I would have made more of a mess by NOT rolling up that material. LOVE IT!
wow, great work. my fishing boat is next
That is one hardcore stringer.
Great job ! Love the information on how you get the fiberglassing done 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Very interesting. Thanks.
At the beginning, you said, "For the stringers we’re using 25-pound ??boardcore??, which is already glued in by ??cabosil??."
I didn't catch those two words. Or I can't find them anywhere online. Please tell me what they are and where i can find out about them.
Corelite/thermolite/coosa/boardcore all the same.
Those electric scissors are brilliant have used them for a year
Amazing work !
que buen trabajo te felisito hermano
What is that sort of squeezing bag you use for the glue?? Could i use it for squeezing putty or filler between two panel
The ad directly below your video was how to control knee pain LoL
Is the bottom of the stringer beveled to match the hull or square?
Good team and looks professional. Tidy workshop!
Fantastic job! What the name of the glue you put on the board; kinda like caulking?
Cabosil mixed with resin to the consistency you’d like!
Thanks for the reply. I will be doing this soon on my 198125' Sea Ray Amberjack. The sun got the floor cracked but this project looks somehow fun to me to do. I wonder what people would charge to redo a floor like this. Again, thank you so much!
Hey wait??? Are Crocs OSHA approved foot ware??? Asking for a friend....
What material is used for those board stringers... Is it XPS Foam Boards ??
What board did you run? I just hear loud music . What kind of resin did you use ? Parts list would be nice
great video. What are those boards called?
Very cool.
Your work is so neat 👏🏻 kudos excellent content ...
Job well done 👏
What are you mixing cabosil with? Fiberglass resin or epoxy?
Great video, thanks for sharing! What is the core material?
what board did you use in your stringer? thanks
Super interesting!! very nice and clean. Are all the hulls, old and new, build the same way? Stringers? Thanks
No, some use wood, cold mold, ply on frame, fiberglass stringers w foam core, stitch and glue, frame on exterior. And many more
Wish you guys were in Australia. Brilliant workmanship. Well done and thanks, I learned a lot!
You apply the fiberglass to the wet cavasilk
Good job. What size Fiberglass mat are you using? 24oz?
que buen trabajo 👍🏽
Nice😎
This is the way i am going to do it on my Phantom 21.
Tnx 💪👍
Use 5200 instead of CAB-O-SIL. CAB-O-SIL seems to crack over time, so it's best used for small fill spots. 5200 works much better in gluing applications like this. I noticed that boats I had done 5-8 years ago were coming back with cracks in the CAB-O-SIL, yet anything I had done in 5200 stayed solid.
@@peterelvenaes1088
Thank you!
I have not worked on my boat for 3 months now.
Plan to start again next week.
@@peterelvenaes1088 ... that's interesting. So what you are saying is that you would make a fillet using 5200 instead of thickened resin?
@@howechilds5060 Let me explain a little better. The way they're doing it in the video is absolutely ok, it's just that it'll for sure crack somewhere down the line (the cab-o-sil itself). Most boat repairs/builds have about 5-10 years of use in mind before needing overhaul/repair work and I'm sure their build will hit that mark, but it's just not how I would do it. I used to glue floors and stringers with cab-o-sil until I had a few come back for repairs about 5 years down the line. Each boat needed a repair because the cab-o-sil had cracked. This is a glueing application (bonding two things together), and for gluing applications I now use 5200/construction adhesive. Cab-o-sil is still a great product for filling (making a surface even before/after applying fiberglass), but I think you'll have better results in your gluing using 5200/construction adhesive instead. It's slightly more difficult to work with, but that stuff lasts a very long time. I once saw a 150hp motor hanging from the back of a boat with no bolts or bracket, just 5200 (it was during engine removal). You can still use some cab-o-sil on the sides of the stringers that you glass over, but between the stringers and hull or between the stringers and floor I'd use 5200. If you guys have any other questions feel free to hit me up.
@@peterelvenaes1088 Ty
What's the thickness off coosa stringers
Great job you done. :)
Is Pvc or wood you used?
I was so impressed by the Coosa. Then I saw the butt joint to the plywood toward the stern. Wood has no place on my boat unless it’s decorative trim. Water will find a way. The strongest stringers at perpendicular to the mounting surface or direction of flex, yes is a bit more complicated to put a floor on.
@@donedealracingDDR
I stand corrected sir 👍
@@ps5801
Ok
You talk about 25 pound board and 5 pound board.
What boards are those?
Coosa?
Star?
May i know how many layer of fiberglass for that boat,,,,bottom n side please?
Just found this video, lot of good information, however I found the music irritating as it interfered with being able to hear the narration.
Good video.. but the title is a bold claim.. I think "Wicked Wanda" has stronger stringers.. check into it.. I'm curious if you disagree. Still, good video!
Why is the fiberglass sheet i between two boards? It will add no protection, someone explain please 😇
Nice Job !!
Hi the Outer 😀, I love your team work.
I have a question. You are using a "caper cell" ( sorry my english is pretty bad). That white clue you are using to stick stringers to the shell. I would like to know what is it made of please?
It's cabosil (or cab-o-sil), made of fumed silica, used to thicken the resin
where I live cabosil is not available, and shipping costs make it far too expensive, All my locals use Talc, which can be purchased in 25 lb bags and is much cheaper than cabosil and it does a very good job, but is a little harder to mix thoroughly, but worth the savings.
You guys rock!
Do you or do you know anyone who can replace string on a ski Nautique thanks
What material are the stringers made of?
Looks like Coosa Board.
Nice Work!! I assume you are using epoxies and not polyester resins?
Def using epoxy since it’s not wetting the material out all the way. The binders used in the material to hold it together till it’s wet out don’t dissolve in epoxy like they do in polyester. That’s why you’re not suppose to use those types of material with epoxy.
To me polyester is a crappy product. Only good for laminating solid glass parts.
Y’all are masters of your art. Very nice made video. New subscriber. Excited to see other videos👍🏼
resins prices have gotten waaaaay to high . stupid how expensive it is to supply a project with material thesis days
👌👌👌👌
Hi, I'm about to re-stringer an old ski boat. Noob question: What product is the stringer you are using? I heard "25lb board core"? I'm not getting any useful results searching for that.
@@donedealracingDDR thanks so much!
I have to aggree the music is way too loud and distracting from the great content of your video.
good content kill the music or adjust your edit volume and ill watch with more interest
Just subscribed love the content as well as the music!!!! Keep up the good work.
Drop the backing track...
Either get rid of the "music" or at least reduce the volume of it by half. I can't hear you speak when I have the volume at a comfortable lever because the music is so loud.
Will be doing this to my jet boat. Getting an idea. Any tips for a newbie?
@@donedealracingDDR thanks, i will deff take my time on it. Plan to add new floor as well.
@@donedealracingDDR what glue did you guys use to glue the bottom wood (stringers) and the side before the fiberglass?
@@donedealracingDDR so this one is use on bottom of wood stringers right, help it glue to bottom of hull?
Cabosil mixed with 405 adhesive filler until it thickened
@@donedealracingDDR how long does 405 take to dry?
@@donedealracingDDR to add new stringer in boat, it needs to be on the air & not on trailer?? Someone mention that! & was planning on doing it on top of trailer
Love your work, But playing heavily based music while commentating is never a good idea! I understand you may love that music, But what makes you think your subscribers do!
Great work! No music at all would be best in my humble opinion. Most are here concentrating to learn the best way for their application. Music just causes distractions.
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@@gerardguglielmo1644 I'm sure it's videos out there that meets your requirements so. Please don't tell someone what work best for them.
I can't even have the sound on the music is so loud and bad not in a good way
The music loud
Dude, you are great at laying glass. Want a job? Ill pay you quite well!
Lower the music, please!
It's hard to understand you.
You need to drop the annoying music music. I subscribed and then canceled when all of that loud music come on.
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bad choice of music.
good video...
No breathing masks to eliminate the styrene in the air inside the hull, be good on the lungs in a couple of years
Does epoxy have styrene?
@@robmitchell3633 epoxy an polyester resins contain styrene, it eats your lungs from the inside out, use a full face mask with organic filters which observe styrene, I own a fiberglass business an its compulsory to wear them
Epoxy resin does not contain styrene.
@@robmitchell3633 I stand corrected, we use alot of polyester resin an little epoxy cause of the price difference, epoxy has the same effect when sanding as to us using mekp catalyst to polyester, it dose get into your lungs, believe what you may its your life
there is no styrene in West Systems or any epoxy for that matter. But, he did wear a mask when he was using the trim router so id say this comment was useless.
Greatt instructional video, however. Get rid of that ridiculous music.
You gotta re edit this video and repost it. That music makes is unwatchable. You have to turn it down when you're not talking then turn it back up to hear what you're saying. The music is worse than nails on a chalkboard
Overkill but your cash your choice. Good luck
Lighten up Francis
I've been building boats for 30 years and I don't see any overkill.
I really wanted to watch this but this music is seriously annoying.
weak joints