Natalie Wood Drowned FOUND FLOATING - her AUTOPSY
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- The LA County CORONER Opened the case 30 YEARS after Natalie Wood's Death. She was found floating in Isthmus Bay off Catalina Island.
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I almost drowned in a river once. The thoughts going through your head as you are struggling for your life are terrifying. Thankfully I was rescued just in time. I can't even imagine what Natalie went though during those last moments. RIP Natalie....
I almost drowned at age 11 in the Colorado River. My Father attempted to rescue me and went under and his body was found two weeks later. Myself and family speculated he may have had a heart attack. I still remember struggling and being terrified almost 50 years later.
@@kimo2432 I think we both know what it was like to be drowning. Horrific experience. I am very sorry for your loss...
@@kimo2432 Wow that's heartbreaking,sorry for your loss. It can happen so quickly and unexpectedly.
I almost drowned in a creek cause I got lost in the woods in the winter at night. I used to go hang out in the woods near where I was living at the time. I would just walk around, climb trees or up on the old bridge above the creek and watch the ppl in canoes go by. Listening to my little cd music player w/ headphones. Almost 20 years ago. I stayed too long and it got dark. I thought I knew my way out but it got so dark I couldn't see. I started panicking cause I couldn't find my way out around the creek. I knew the one part of the creek faced the direction of where I lived. It was also the part of the creek where one water way spilled into the creek so I could hear the water rushing loudly. I was scared and freezing and just wanted to get out of there fast. I couldn't see anything! So I held my mini backpack over my head and started walking across. At first it went halfway up my chest. There were rocks under my feet and they were super slippery like they were covered in something. The rushing water was pushing me. It was FREEZING! This is late November in Ohio back when it was REALLY COLD in that month! As I got closer to the middle I took a step and my foot went down low. The water came up past my chin! I had to tilt my head back to not swallow the water. I started thinking at that point I'm going to get swept away and either drown or die by hypothermia. It was so hard to stay steady. I was crying and praying. I was already halfway and I couldn't turn back now cause I was soaked. I prayed so hard the rest of the way. I finally made it out and onto the other side. I had a good 20 minute walk home after that. And I never went back to the woods again. I damn near had a panick attack remembering that night to talk about it. But I couldn't imagine being a child and then having my own father drown trying to save me. That must have been terrifying and completely heart-wrenching. I'm so sorry.
Same with me in a river once. I was struggling in a terrible current and fatiguing to the point I knew it was over, but suddenly started feeling the bottom and began hopping toward the shore with what little I had left in me. I had nieces and nephews there and had just helped a nephew get his footing before I lost mine. I thought all were about to witness me actually die before their very eyes. Rough.
They waited 2 hours before radioing for help:
In the archive of forgotten facts, hidden truths, and concealed evidence about Natalie Wood, what is most shocking is Robert Wagner’s role in her drowning. The man that Natalie Wood married not once but twice, who would often say, with glass raised, “She takes my breath away,” refused to search for two and a half hours when Natalie went missing from their boat in the waters off Catalina Island.
"refused to search for her" is quite a harsh conclusion. If they had been sitting in the cabin drinking and suddenly wondered where she had been gone and they found both her and the dingy missing it's plausible they thought she had gone into land. And it's also plausible they didn't start worrying about her until a couple of hours later when she never returned. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that.
Probably waited so he could sober up like Ted Kennedy did after he left Mary Jo Kopechne to drown.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 if it was my wife, who went, it was terrified of dark water and couldn’t swim. All the sudden went missing from the boat, and I waited two hours before I called Harbor patrol. I would’ve called the minute I discovered she was gone. Natalie was terrified, I mean, terrified of dark water she would never have tried to go in the dinghy that wasn’t the type of person she was. She would’ve got Dennis Davern up and got him to do it but they a test on the boat that’s in Hawaii nowthe splendor, and they bang that thing up against it and a guy was inside and he said I couldn’t hear a thing and that was on the calm day. It was just an excuse they used Wagner is guilty about something.
The two men during those two hours concocting some story for the world, no doubt.
No need to search if you know what really happened
Christopher Walken was on the boat, and I speculate he knows more than what he says.
Most definitely!!¡!
I thought the same thing. But then again he could have passed out from drugs and/or alcohol, in my opinion.
@@jenniferlyons4150 he was good enough to testify he heard some commotion
But...He was asleep. 😶
Both Chris W, and Robert Wagner where on that boat!!
THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.☠️👿
I was a senior in high school we had a 30 foot sailboat named prime time. We were there that weekend that Natalie Wood died. We were at Avalon. She was at the isthmus, which was at the northern end of the island. There’s only one restaurant there. The restaurant was called Doug’s place you can’t get to the isthmus without a boat from Avalon.
Sailing since I was nine years old, I can tell you that getting in a dinghy from the water is damn near impossible. You have to have a lot of upper body strength. I don’t see how any inebriated person also being a woman could get into a dinghy from the water it’s a lot more difficult than you would imagine.
And dont forget the coat, she would have def been dragged down with that trying to get in the boat for sure.
I can personally attest to this! I had a situation where I had to get into a dinghy straight from the water. Being in the ocean compounds it. It's not as if you're in a calm relatively shallow lake or pond. I'm 127lbs 5'5 and pretty strong for a female. I'm not a fitness nut but I do work out. Pffft, for the life of me I could NOT get into the dinghy! Thankfully my friend was able to pull me up and into the boat. Even if it were a life/death situation, I don't think I could've gotten into it on my own volition.
@@deniece0821 yeah, it’s nearly impossible unless you have tremendous upper body strength
Add to all that an apparently big argument she just got done having, plus tons of alcohol, downed both at a cafe and more later on the boat.
Isn’t the dinghy rubber?Bunch of BS.
I wish we could know the whole story, I wish Christopher Walken would say what he knows.
I always hoped he'd spill the beans after Wagner was gone. They were doing more then drinking on that boat. We all know how Natalie was terrified of open waters. She would not have stumbled around above deck. RW likely dragged her on deck, knowing how terrified she'd be. He went too far with his rage. And got away with it.
He did ...clearly and concisely
If he says what he knows he probably end his years in jail.
😮
@@paulsmith2279 ....then, you wouldn't have had an opportunity to comment as you have "D
Walken's attorney likely advised otherwise. Knowing about a crime you were present for makes you an accessory to that crime.
The autopsy report makes the tragedy very real and personal.
Thank you Scott, great video. I hate that she died in water since she was afraid of it.
I just found it hard to believe Ms wood being afraid of getting in the water would in the middle of the night attempt to get in that flimsy zodiac. Before I learned to swim nothing would have made me do that except fear of harm or death
@@Ephemeral2023With all due respect to your comment, many times alcohol can lower your inhibitions and say "eff it." Meaning, I agree with you. Natalie may have been drunk enough and upset/angry enough to have said "Screw this, I'm going back to land."
About 20 years ago I was on vacation with my now ex-fiance. This is back when I used to drink heavily and one particular night I was pretty ripped. My (then) fianceé and I had gotten into an argument. We were staying in a rented beachfront condo. It was around midnight and I was pretty pissed off from arguing and decided to go for a walk on the beach to calm down and burn off some anger. I don't know what possessed my stupid ass but I ended up walking out a pier, jumped into the ocean and swam back to the beach. Pitch darkness in choppy waves and I'm really not the greatest swimmer. To make things worse, I started to get pulled further out by a rip-tide. Thankfully I had enough cognitive use of my brain to remember to swim horizontally to the shore if caught in a rip-tide. I definitely had a guardian angel looking out for me that night. I ended up being in the water for 15-20 minutes. Like I said, I'm not the best swimmer. I thank my lucky stars/guardian angel/God/the Universe...whatever kept me from drowning that night. Honestly, I probably should've died given the circumstances.
The sea, being drunk and pissed off fighting with your significant other is never a good combo .
I concur. Every word. And, i don't think she wouldn't have gown to shore for a drink in her nightgown.
Unless she was fleeing from a beating & tried to escape in the dinghy.
@inch348Interesting thought. .Or, simply wanting to get some space from Away from Wagner; taking a time out, etc..
Natalie was terrified of water in darkness. As I understand it, she and Robert had a very heated argument over Christopher and her friendship. Shortly after Christopher excused himself to retire for the evening Natalie allegedly dissappeared. It's all too suspicious in my opinion. There's definitely more to this story and Robert know's what that information is.
I recommend the book "goodbye splendour,goodbye Natalie" fascinating and points to RJ as the suspect,by Captain Daverne who was the last person to see her alive that night.
I just saw an interview with the boat Captain and he said Wagner and Natalie were screaming at each
other. He went to the room and Wagner answered the door and told him things were ok and to leave.
Then a short time later he went to the room again because it was so quiet and Wagner opened the
door stood there and said Natalie's gone. The bedroom door was opened to the transom and dinghy area
so it looked suspicious. He also said Wagner was angry at Natalie and threw a wine bottle across the room
when they were all in the lounge. Walken went to his cabin, captain to his cabin and Natalie and Wagner to their cabin.He had been jealous of Natalie and Walken all night. The captain was a young kid...had worked for
them a long time and had many conversations with Natalie. The way he was talking didn't make Wagner
seem innocent. I saw the interview in TH-cam within the last 1 1/2 months.
In my opinion, Robert is quilty of her demise. He got away with murder. No way she ended up in the water on her own accord. She was terrified of the water especially in the dark. The whole story Robert gave is ludicrous, questionable and suspect.
@@t.m.i.1245 she was drunk was she not? drink can give you a sense of confidence
I saw that interview on a different you tube channel. RJ refused to turn on their search light or call authorities for hours.
@LeonAust I'm afraid of heights and I could be 3 sheets to the wind and walking down a flight of stairs, clinging for dear life to the railing and stepping very slowly. Why? Because I know, Even drunk, that it's more dangerous. My fear is actually heightened. RW is allegedly bi sexual, Natalie caught him in bed with another man.
There's so much that the media didn't say that's suspicious. I believe RW got away with murder.
Natalie was afraid of the water and drowning the idea she would try to leave the boat by herself instead of calling the Captain is unlikely Why didnt she bring her purse and money?
Drinking is liquid courage and also you don't think correctly.
All of them were "partying" drinking heavily and who knows what else!!!
Why didn't she have shoes on? And she was in a nightgown? Doubt she was going anywhere. We all know what happened. Very very sad.
If afraid of the water, why was she on a Cabin Cruiser in the Middle of the Pacific Ocean?
@@Sunflower-ug3eh I was raised in Honolulu, so its sortof no biggie for me. You are missing out on the world of Cruising! There are ways you can overcome that, Im sure.
The autopsy makes sense. But what doesn't make sense is the Splendor looks to be maybe 40 feet long, so why didn't Wagner or Walken hear her fall in? Or splashing around? Or even screaming? Even if you were below deck you think you would hear someone screaming from less then 40 feet away.
Yes and nearby boaters heard her
I totally agree, it's so very obvious Wagner wanted her dead...I don't think it was premeditated but what he n the other two men did..letting her drown is disgusting....they should NOT have listened to Wagner, I hope those two finally speak out against Wagner, its obvious he forced them to lie but once being honest, the authorities may not charge the other two...Natalie deserves Justice.
@@gwen8859 Yes...I watched an interview yesterday by the lady on the other boat who was threatened to not say anything, must have been difficult for her to have obtained such abuse, she didn't deserve that......what really dissapointed me was WEISMILLER who was an Olympic level swimmer apparently and the partner of the lady, I can understand him discouraging her of jumping in to help Natalie seeing SHE too was a good swimmer claiming it wouldn't be wise seeing she's a single parent, incase something goes wrong n she's dragged down too into the water being a lightweight but WHY did BIG BUILT STRONG TALL MAN of Weismuller not jump in ??? Wasn't far at all to swim.. extremely dissapointed in him to have not done so, it was cruel !!
Did the autopsy say death by drowning?
She was so terrified of water, I don’t believe for a second that she went to the back of the boat, in the DARK, to try to stop the dinghy from knocking against the boat. The fact that Wagner waited to call for help. People on other boats heard a woman calling for help. They heard a man brushing her off, saying something to the effect of “You can stay out there till you calm down “. Along with several other factors, this whole situation seems sus AF.
She would have asked the captain to secure the dingy.
As you described the bruises on her legs the first thing I pictured in my mind was Natalie being forcefully picked up by her legs & thrown over the railing. She could not have fallen over the railing by herself because the railing was too high. I will never believe it was an accident it was murder!
I think Robert Wagner an Christopher Walken have an agreement between themselves to both take that nights events to their grave.
This was a very hard autopsy report to hear. I can only imagine how terrifying her last moments were in struggling to get into that dingy. RIP Natalie.
Great video sir
I don't believe she ever came into contact with that dinghy. Someone untied it to let it go and I'm certain it wasn't her. She was screaming for her life and nobody came.
Was she? Or he killed her on the boat?@@cynthiacoffey7463
Thank you for this. Natalie deserves Justice.
I read the book her sister wrote . The night before they went - there was a dinner party and Natalie announced "We're taking the boat to Catalina for the weekend.." Her sister felt slighted, like thinking "gee , thanks for not inviting me..."
She couldn't swim and was terrified of water can't believe she would willingly leave the boat.
Unless, she perceived the situation on the boat to be more frightening than facing her fear of dark water
......and at night... In the dark cold waters..!!!😮
Or she was drunk and fell in!
😮 and of all things Dark Water ....shame she couldn't have gone during the day
@@gigicat3943 .....or she was pushed. 😢😢
Wow, that was a lot to absorb. Yet I must say, u did a fantastic job of deciphering, her Autopsy report. I must say, the mystery of what happened the night/morning of her death, is frightfully chilling.
My mother used to say, the mystery of some deaths, may not ever be solved for certain. All I can say at this point, is that I hope she's at peace now.🕊🕊🕊🕊
Yeah. Only one suspect. In this case I’ve said it for years. It was murder. She had a phobia of water. She couldn’t swim. The game was up when suspect Lawyered up after it happened.
I always thought RW did it. I just knew. He got away with it but eventually he will have to answer to God.
Scott, RW waited over an hour before he called for help. He checked the stateroom, then opened a bottle of scotch.
I have a theory that RW and NW were arguing on the deck. It got physical and RW pushed her and she fell over the side. She called for help and he let her drown.
Natalie had a lifelong fear of water. Especially dark water. I think about the fear she felt about her nightmare coming true. My heart hurts for her.
Edit: I apologize for droning on, I forgot to add that I think you did an excellent job on your video and research. Well done. I subscribed.
Agreed. Robert threw her overboard, she drown.
He's a murderer. Period...
There were photos in the video that show her on the open seas smiling. She wasn't that afraid or she wouldn't have been there.
RW died now oh well I don’t think he is in Heaven
@@donnacolosimo3294 he’s very much alive.
@@donnacolosimo3294Robert Wagner is still alive
Nice job again Scott. You're right, this is fascinating stuff. I remember very well Natalie's tragic death. A talented & beautiful gal taken way too soon from us. I believe we will never know the truth & also Wagner & Walken as well as the skipper of the boat are not telling us all of the events which unfolded that terrible night. RIP Natalie.
I met Natalie Woods when she came to Grey Advertising in NY to get some photos for a movie made for TV. My ex husband was the art director there for the shoot. She came in and locked herself in the dressing room and wouldn’t come out. Everyone was upset as time is money.. I ran downstairs to the lobby store and bought 5 little knitted animal finger puppets. I told my ex to show them to her and she loved them and put them on, he’s got the photo of her with them. She seemed to be terribly anxious and this calmed her so hair and makeup was done and I will never forget her beautiful but sad face…
How old was she when that happened?
@@Purplenpinkk , this was right before she died. In fact the photo my ex took of her was probably the last before she drowned.
Sounds like she was extremely, intensely, nervous (just for a photo shoot?) and she needed a distraction. I read she was adorable, of course, but child like in many ways. I can understand this if your whole life has been orchestrated for you and decisions are made for you. Making your very own decisions can be overwhelming and intense. She is still missed to this very day, bless her.
@@ladysylvia4018 wow! That’s interesting. So sad, she was so beautiful.
Christopher Walkens knows exactly what happened .. hollyweird looks after its own.
RIP Ms Wood and i feel sorry for Ms Woods family for never getting the truth :(
i agree 💯 and Robert Wagner
Gail here ! Robert has appeared in a movie about Prince Vallent ( misspelled ) back in the '50's . Could be the reason it was named that . The boat was named for the movie that Natalie made with Warren Beatty that resulted in the affair that broke up their first marriage . Always wondered about that ! She was my favorite movie star when I was a kid . Always played I was her when we played dressup. She was one of the few brunette stars . I didn't want to be a blonde . My friend was Sandra Dee .
That affair with Warren did not break up her marriage. NATALIE caught RJ in bed with their Chauffeur.
There was no affair. That was the public story.
The truth is that Ms. Wood cdn't find Wagner in the middle of the night.
She caught him with the butler. She ran screaming from the house, filed for divorce the next day, had a nervous breakdown, and didn't work for a year.
Read "Natasha: The Story of Natalie Wood" by Suzanne Finstad.
It's been awhile since I read it; I hope I got the title right!
There are harrowing incidents in this book that you will never forget, believe me.
@trishsiprell6996 oh it was the butler. I knew it was someone that worked at the house. So RJ is Bi- sexual. She did not deserve that. I also heard that her mom was a horrible stage mother.
There Butler was a female??
@@djsugebryant281 No. He was a man. Wagner is bi. In the 50s, this cd cost an actor their career. So he went out with women publicly.
Natalie dated him bc Maria, her mother, liked him and wanted them to date.
I shd've been more specific. I apologize.
I watched & listened with GREAT interest, Scott. You are like a hip, witty, warm professor who makes difficult things understandable & gets to the bottom of the matter in exactly the right spirit. Poor Natalie Wood...whatever happened was at the very LEAST a Murphy's Law of everything going precisely wrong &, like you said, she wasn't up to the task of saving herself. Hearing RJ's account was fascinating. Well done! ✌️♥️
I love the way you put that! Spot on about Scott Michaels! I just love him!
Aww...thanks so much, @kathrynmcelroy. Delighted to hear this. Scott is a gift!
Thank you for the video. When I was in junior high my mom helped me write a report on Natalie Wood. When my daughter was in junior high I helped her do the same. We all love her
why the hell would she try to get in a dingy by herself at night time if she was afraid of the water? just so crazy...
Exactly what I was going to say. No way with her fear of water was she going to attempt that alone at night.
Drunk with a combo of sleeping pill,anti nausea and alcohol. RJ and she had that fight earlier in the evening.
@war.... yes, I doubt she'd go into the dark rough water unless she was so angry, intoxicated enough to be clumsy, fumbling and fell into the water by accident.
If she was more afraid of Wagner
Very crazy to believe she would do that. It would be next to impossible for Natalie to pull herself into the dingy in calm waters but rough sea water conditions,,,,, that’s a joke!!
Thank you for doing this research! I never wrapped my head around this case.. so many questions, even after all these years..only Wagner and Walken know the truth.. Or, maybe not ?!!! ✌🏼❤️
How could they not? She had to be really ticked off to get in that dinghy.
@@marilynbrown5274 If she even got on the dinghy?? That was Rws theory about what must have happened,no one has been able to verify his story, but I think I read once about people in other boats hearing a woman screaming in the middle of the night 🌉🌃?? If that's true,I guess no one ever tracked down those ear witnesses to confirm what they heard that night.?? I believe RW struck her in a drunken jealous rage and he either pushed her overboard or picked her up and threw her in the 🌊 and went to the bedroom and continued drinking!! Damn shame!!
She never got into the dinghy. See the interview on the Dr. Oz TV show. He interviewed the captain of the boat. She had bruises all over her body. After watching the interview, I strongly suspect that RJ beat her up and possibly knocked her out... and probably placed her body in the water himself.@@marilynbrown5274 He made CW and the Captain corroborate their stories to cover up what really happened. CW and the Captain were not eyewitnesses, but they heard the fight going on between RJ and Natalie. Then, suddenly it was quiet... and suddenly Natalie was "missing", according to RJ. Pretty sure that RJ is guilty of manslaughter, whether intentional or not.
Thank you Scott !
Never ending fascination with Natalie Woods death.
For me...I consider this a very tragic accident.
Alcohol consumption and water.... never a good combination.
Just so stinkin sad.
😢💔
Rest well Natalie 💗
RIP Natalie gone to soon 😢
alcohol in large quantiles and being on water is not going to end well
Plus Darvon is a narcotic pain killer if I remember correctly from my forensic classes in college. Mixing pain killers and alcohol intensifies the effect of both. However, I think Wagner had something to do with her death as well.
rip Natalie very Sad
This morning I was reading about Catalina Island and I was just getting ready to research where exactly she was discovered. Thank you, SM.
Sh was afraid of water. I had a boat in San Pedro at the time. Ocean water is scary someone afraid of the water does not go into an unsteady dingy that boops up and down no matter how much alcohol one has with that kind of fear
FACTS 💯‼️‼️
This is an excellent posting, Scott. I think the skipper of a boat should not be allowed to be intoxicated when his boat is in use, be it anchored or in motion. A clear-headed captain would have done something to ascertain where Natalie was. Did Natalie Wood know how to swim? Natalie's younger sister, actress Lana Wood, reportedly suspected Robert Wagner of being responsible for her sister's death. I never felt that Christopher Walken nor Robert Wagner were very forthcoming in their statements. The whole thing is strange---three grown men with one small lady who happens to be world famous, on a small boat together, and she drowns just feet from where they are at. And one of the men is her husband. Supposedly it was known to him that his wife was terrified of "deep, dark water." Hmmm..........
I'm sure the Valiant name for the dinghy comes from Robert Wagner playing Prince Valiant in the film from 1954.
Right, I thought he played that role.
It’s very clear that a shoving scuffle ocured between Wagner and Wood. Wagner being a celebrity did what the Ramsay’s did- not talk with the police and how he got away with that I don’t know how that happened. Different laws for different people . Wagner is clearly guilty of not assisting . For that he should be incarcerated.
This whole case is so strange , Natalie Wood was my favorite actress ,my gut tells me foul play , if not she would have never gone into the dingy in the night and in pajamas and a heavy down red coat 😢 Rip Natasha Gerdin Wagner
Fascinating I had not heard her body was stored a hyperbaric chamber. Would love to see you do a video like this about Bob Crane.
She was in her night clothes on a boat in the middle of the water and no foul play is suspected?????
Well she might have fell over and tried to grab the dinghy and should have grabbed the main boat, she was very drunk and on pills. Idk i dont hear enough for this to be called murder
@vicvega3614 it's my opinion while on pills and very drunk what the hell was she doing on a small boat in the middle of the water when she was deathly scared of the water??? As a Homicide investigator it's the things that make you say hmmmmmmmm
Wagner was in the movie "Prince Valiant" as a very young man. May explain the dingy's name.
@lotstodo obviously this is a discussion between adults. Something you probably should work on. My comments along with the other comment was or is about a possible Homicide. If you have nothing to add for or against that??? Maybe your comments and conversation belong somewhere else. If your being serious with your comment then I'd like to have it explained?
@lotstodo first I'm not angry I'm simply making a statement about a serious conversation. I understand the fact that she was wearing many things. But none of that had anything to do with the conversation of this being a Homicide or a Suicide?? I'm simply pointing out the facts of the conversation. Once again I have no clue why you selected to place your comment in our conversation?? It has absolutely nothing to do with our conversation. Unless you're just trying to be a clown? Which is fine I've done the same but when I'm ask about it I simply comment I'm just being a clown. I'm a Combat Veteran and former Cop it takes way way more then that to even get me a little upset. I'm simply asking questions something I did alot of as a Detective??
I never knew all the details surrounding her death and about them cutting samples of her bruised skin. The autopsy was very informative. Thankyou for all your hard work on these videos the information always fascinates me.
Natalie was an amazing actress gone far too soon. #RIP
Natalie Wood died the day I was born. I was born 7:30am Eastern Time on 11/29/81, she died around that time Pacific Time (I have always assumed.) It's crazy how life & death seem to equal one another out in this world and when I die there will be babies born at that moment.
Fora very young person you have some good spiritual insight what you said reminds of a scripture in the Bible where god talks about how he gives life and takes life how even inthe book of job when he talks about life and death while he was going through terrible times of testing because god told satan see my servant job there is none like him shuns the wrong and always choose to do what is right god called his servant job a righteous man who loved and revered god and also feared god because he knew his very breath of life from birth to death was in gods hands 🙌 god bless you this holiday season Jesus Christ is the reason for the season so here is to wishing you and your family a very blessed merry Christmas 🎄 and a wonderful 2024new year ✝️🕎✡️🇺🇸🎄👼😇🙏✝️🇮🇱
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Very thoughtfully put together and presented! Great job like usual, Scott and Troy!
Her having fresh bruises wouldn’t alarm me. Being on a boat is a prime place to knock your arms and legs, etc, on hard surfaces. There are plenty of opportunities to trip and fall and bump around while navigating in tight quarters on a boat that’s never sitting still.
Just getting on and off the boat is a prime opportunity for getting bruises. I know from experience.
I'm inclined to think the bruises were not associated with her death. Bruising doesn't happen immediately after the reason for it occurs. We all have noticed a bruise and not immediately knowing why it's there. And like you said, being around boats it just happens. But Robert's behavior sure was odd. Didn't even want to identify the body.
Knowing that she had taken Dalmane and had been drinking a lot would make it really difficult to function IMO. I now think that because of the alcohol and medications in her system that she fell overboard trying to secure the dingy. She might have been so impaired (plus she had the down vest that was saturated) she probably couldn’t put up too much of a fight once in the water.
I Agree
When they stated the down vest weighed 40lbs when soaked that was shocking,I know myself, not being the strongest swimmer, if I was in the same situation with that extra weight and was not able too pull myself up fairly quickly than I would probably end up the same. It's not that difficult to comprehend but some just are drawn to the drama or conspiracy versions. Most times with someone famous they cannot grasp that they are just regular people who are just as vulnerable to life's unexpected twists and tragedies like everyone else.
@@joyceadams5765agree with what. Wood never went to secure any dinghy she'd have asked Davern to do that. That's just a nonsense theory made up by Wagner. They had a huge row Wood was beaten badly this was no accident. Why didn't Wagner turn on the searchlight immediately. Why didn't he contact the coastguard immediately. Why didn't he identify his dead wife's body. This was no accident.
Yeh I would agree...still feel for her fear at the time of fighting for life
@@johnmacdonald5483 you hardly believe that nonsense that the woman fell in trying to tie up a dinghy. That's a made up pile of garbage by Wagner. The ships captain Davern said in his 6 years working for Wagner and Wood she never once tied up the dinghy there's your answer. Wagner refused to turn on the searchlight,refused to contact the coastguard immediately in fact he never contacted them he rang the restaurant manager Don Whiting 3 hours after Wood was gone. He refused to identify his wifes body that should tell you enough. This was no accident .
I felt sad that time when news broke she died by drowning with others around including her husband Robert Wagner. They had no kid or kids to divert his attention not to know an "accident" happened to her. Just like Marilyn Monroe's death was plagued with so much grey areas and uncertainties.
I remember when it happened. I thought RW beat her up and then threw her into the water. I'm not surprised she had all those injuries. All these years later, it still makes me sad.
Why on earth was she prescribed Valium, Darvon and Placidil? One of those pill plus alcohol can kill you. That was prescription overkill. I am a chronic pain sufferer, when I was diagnosed I stopped drinking alcohol. It is very dangerous to mix prescription drugs and alcohol. I am also diabetic, another reason not to drink alcohol.
I can only think... it was the 80's.
Darvon compound is a weak opioid, Valium slows down a person reflexes response. Many medications have a do not mix with alcohol because when mixed impairment is stronger and faster. I am on long-term pain killers and if I have a alcoholic drink it only takes a small amount for impairment.
So he(Robert Wagner) nor Walker nor the captain never hear her scream. And why would she be in her night gown if she was going ashore for another drink?
Drugs and alcohol
I was a kid when I heard my mom speaking on this ! I remember her saying immediately “Robert killed her “ so sad . She was such a beautiful talented woman . And whoever, hid this I hope ur rotting in hell !!! If something does not make sense - then it does NOTTTT make sense !!! Robert pushed her , knowing she could not swim ! Chris walken is a strange dude as well ! Kinda reminds me of the movie with Julia Robert’s “Sleeping With the Enemy “
What does not make sense. Long history of the dingy getting too much slack in the line and banging against hull of yacht. Many friends that had been on the boat spoke on it. She turned in early in front cabin and could not sleep because of banging . Got up, went to the deck to tighten line ,slipped when pulling dingy close because she was a little tipsy and we know the end. Completely explains why dingy was not prepared for operation,it was in off position and oars were rigged. The current pulled her away from yacht with dingy and slight rash from her trying to get into it. When they stated her down jacket weighed 40lbs because it was soaked that is the clincher. Maybe if she had been less under the influence she might have tried taken the coat off but who knows. When family and friends that were close talk about this which is rare now,not one ,except her disturbed sister ,still trying to ride her coattails ,speak ill of RJ, or give any of this conspiracy any Creedence at all.Just a really tragic accident. The captain literally had to change his story before the publisher agreed to the book deal. Reeks of money motivation.Their marriage was good with no prior history of violence.
This whole conspiracy was too sell more Papers and national inquiries at the time nothing more.
@@johnmacdonald5483 Where you there???? No you weren't,that's your Goofy opinion no FACT'S 💯‼️ You are a certified 🅱️🅾️ Z 🅾️🤡 not Columbo🤠You jack@**🤬
Just as I was looking for something to listen to… BOOM… Dearly Departed lands on my notifications!!
Hi Scott, your content is always interesting & fascinating!! Also love the Dearly Departed podcast & hope you’ll be having more content there!! Love the longer 50min videos!!🔥
The fact that there are parts of her body cobsidered as evidence, found missing, tells and confirms the truth ..
Natalie had a life long fear of water. Mixed with alcohol and emotional distress from fighting with her husband made her panic even more when she fell into the water and sadly her self proclaiming prophecy came true. 🥺
The whole gay community has been saying for years that Walken and RJ were lovers and Natalie caught them on the boat that Thanksgiving Weekend. Check it out. Thats why the silence comes in. 💔
Well, Wagner was a known bisexual.
Just about all Hollywood actors were/are.
I worked for an auction house that sold one of Kurt Cobain's prescription bottles . This was about 15 years ago before our culture receded - and Nirvana were not the icons that they are NOW. I wish I had bid on it. That and Madonna's "weekly planner" book (written in her own hand) from the Sean Penn years! I did make Xerox copies and gave then to a friend who never returned them !!
Petichia are small pinpoint broken blood vessels that are sometimes seen in the eyes that indicate lack of oxygen...this is sometimes a finding in strangulation and part of the investigative process...
I reacted very angrily back then when it hit the media that she died...to me I blamed the marriage for her drinking.she was doing hand lotion ads at the time and the whole story really caught me by surprise.
I was a child then, I remember her raintree commercials
I remember Darvon being taken off the market years ago because of cardiac complications. I was given Darvocet for a broken rib. It made me sleepy. And Bactrim is for UTIs. It still makes me extremely upset that she died afraid. She was so beautiful.
What about the methadrine for high blood pressure, isn't that speed? Not what I'd think would help high blood pressure or mix well with the sleeping pills. Dumb Hollywood doctor
Hi, Scott. I wanted to know more of the details and updates of this case. Yours seemed more reliable content than some of the other posts. You have such a wonderful collection! Special! OX
I didn’t hear the Autopsy description regarding her lungs. Wouldn’t her lungs be full of water?
I love the way you tell us about the report.
The night before this happened- Natalie left the boat with Dennis Davern and stayed in. hotel on shore
Well done. You always do such great investigation into your topics. I always learn something from you. Thank you so much. You are the best.
Wow thank you so much!!
My late neighbor and friend Margaret ‘Peggy’ Stout lived next door to the Wagner’s on Canon Drive in Beverly Hills for many years. She and her husband longtime CBS News journalist Bill Stout were friends with the Wagner’s for years. Peggy told me she absolutely adored Natalie and when I casually asked her one evening over dinner if she thought RJ Wagner had anything to do with the drowning. Her opinion was he had nothing to do with the incident and she said he deeply loved his wife. Peggy said Natalie was a wonderful person and I asked her what about Wagner’s current wife Jill St. John-Peggy shot back ‘not so much’ with a laugh. She remained friends with RJ Wagner until her death a few years ago.
Thank you for sharing that!
Thank you for sharing This! I too think he was not guilty of doing this. He was so in love with her.
I love details. You never bore me.
Scott, You do an amazing job, you have a way of telling the story and explaining things like no one else I have come across. Thank you for doing these videos I always find them so interesting.
Thanks for all you do and collect of history…always respectful. I’ve learned so much.
Fantastic history lesson! Thank you very much for all your research....well presented!
Good Evening Scott Michaels 🙋🏽 Seasons Greetings to you and Troy 🎄
and to you!
I had read Coroner when it was first published, and again last year in 2023. I had the opportunity to meet Robert Wagners mom at a designated bungalow at the Beverly Hilton. I shared with her I wanted to name my daughter Natalie.
Bravo, Scott! Excellent job.
Also, bravo to no ads until the end of the video.
This was truly fascinating because you always do the homework! I recall sister Lana’s 2021 book, as she continues to allege RJ was involved by means of an argument on the back of The Splendor. We may never know for sure…but certainly wish NW peace. Thank you for your amazing insights Scott.
I think the conclusion is wrong. The bruises might have come from a beating. Remember that Wagner thought she and Walken were having a fling. The down vest might have been placed on her and she was pushed overboard. This is the only scenario in which silence makes sense.
Another terrific video, Scott. What would I do without your channel for interesting entertainment? Thank you.
I remember this in 1981. It was a topic covered weekly in the Enquirer Rag paper they felt it was a murder from the start I believe
Natalie, Belushi and Lennon kept the Rags VERY VERY busy in 1980-1981 !!
When my daughter died, I was asked if I wanted the toxicology pieces back. My child had already been cremated by then. I told them to dispose of them for me.
😢 I loved her dearly. My favorite actress, I cried so much. I got to see her once in person. She was gorgeous and she smiled at me. I've also been to her grave site a few times.
A video on Peter Lawford would be so interesting. Your work is amazing. Thank you 🌠
I agree. It's in the plan!
In the early part of 1982 I was on a date with my future (now ex) husband. We took his little boat around the Marina in Marina Del Rey. The yacht was in a slip. It was eerie. I have heard or read RJ has a form of dementia. I tend to think he had something to do with her death. We may never know. It’s a shame.
How did RW go ashore to look for her, leaving Dennis and Walken on the Splendour, if the Zodiac was missing? No tender.
There was a water taxi service that monitored the radio, which he used.
The Zodiac model boat "Valiant" was named for Robert Wagner's portrayal of Prince Valiant (in the film, Prince Valiant -1954)
Thank you for this detailed video. I hope theres Justice for Natalie one day. No matter what happened on the boat, all I can say is, the boat was small, no loud music, they would have heard the cries for help yet they did NOTHING. Thats all that matters.
Love Natalie’s movies. Great actress. I think Robert played Prince Valiant in a movie for something like that. RIP Natalie we will miss all the great movies you would have still made.
Fascinating. Always felt like there was something going on that nobody knows about. I always enjoy Scott's videos. 😃
Watched it all.....Fascinating.
Thank you Scott for this posting. I honestly thought I knew a lot about this case but you're posting actually informed me of a lot more That I didn't know. I appreciated it was a really good episode!
Every time I see Christopher Walker and I think about this and the weird interview with Mel Gibson talking about Christopher Walken floating. The whole thing is weird.😂
Read the book Brainstorm by Sam Perroni, a former Federal prosecutor for a completely different take. Had the case gone to court in the 80s Wagner would've been convicted of at least manslaughter although the author makes a compelling case for premeditation. He is also justifiably critical of Thomas Noguchi.
This was a really in depth and interesting viseo!! Really liking these autopsy videos!
Bravo Sir That some of the most important facts about her case-Well Done 🧐🔍🔦
Natalie and her husband had a very violent relationship-there is much more information documented. The Captain knows what happend and he kept his silence to protect himself.
Christopher Walken was very, very close to Robert Wagner. Natalie divorced Robert once before for his indiscretions.
It is all out there-go down the rabbit hole.
I absolutely got something out of it, this filtered out all the tv show nonsense and speculation from countless sources that we've been flooded with for 42 years now and in my eyes using just the evidence and nothing else I've finally come to a determination about it, and that's that it was an accident and nothing more.
Thanks for this Scott, it was so nice to finally get nothing but facts concerning this.
My thoughts exactly. Watched a couple of decent documentaries over the years too and always just seemed to be a tragic accident from poor judgement caused by alcohol.People argue does not equate to murder.
Ppl in surrounding boats heard a woman yelling for help , but when they shined a light they saw nothing , 😢i still believe RJ DID IT , AND NO ONE CAN CONVIENCE ME OTHER WISE
Thank you Scott, as always another great and informative video, RIP natalie, so sad
How can people hear a woman scream for help and not take it seriously? Everyone in her vicinity failed her that night.
So by RJ’s own admittance, he went back to the restaurant to look for her and also called the restaurant at 1:30. That’s kinda contradictory and conveniently his friend is parked right next to him in their yacht, not to mention that they were also on a first name basis.
I just also find it very convenient that his cohost S. Lost her longtime boyfriend, William Holden, within two weeks of Natalie’s death I believe it was before Natalie died.
I think Holden was very upset that Stefanie was in Hawaii filming and he couldn't get a hold of her.
He got very drunk and hit his head. He tried to clean up the mess but he didn't survive it.
RJ went over to comfort Stefanie a number of times and then just weeks later Natalie drown.
I think he was having an affair with Stefanie. She looked so mad when they were on a parade with RJ and Natalie and the girls.
This is just my personal opinion from watching many different videos.
So Sad : this Mystery lives on. Robert Wagner needs to say more.
As I remember, Dr. Nogoochi did a really bad job with Marilyn Monroe…and had a lot of criticism, but continued to be given high profile future jobs.
One she was scared of deep dark water. She never would tried to tie the diny down. She was in North Carolina days before this happened. Everyone that seen her or talked to her would tell you how wonderful person she was. To this day I believe Wagner hit her and pushed her into the water. I blame the ship Captain because he lied and then wrote a book making money off her death. If he heard them fighting why didn't he step in. He and Wagner are to blame for death