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Don't EVER quit...no matter WHAT. I was weak, underweight and I made it...anyone can IF you have HEART.
Absolutely Amanda. The ones who came in with tough-guy attitudes were usually the first to go. All the nerds made it...the ones who didn't even have to shave yet (basic wasn't co-ed when I went through it).
Acesempa easy to say when you're not a pussy
Just take care of yourself before going basic training learn values less stressful
Acesempa smfh males are naturally stronger then females stop complaining wuss
The best way is go to ROBLOX join a army and you can quit whenever you want
I quit during Reception, I didn't want to do active duty. Went back home and waited 8 months and joined the Guard. Best decsion I ever made.
Haha glad that worked out for you man!
David Joe Are you responding to comments? I have a question.
I cut myself....... they let me go home. I got home and it turned out I have schizophrenia... so maybe it’s for the best? I still wish I could graduate but obviously I can’t do that. Heads up for those who join don’t fucking quit it will follow you for the rest of your life
David Joe did they take your phone as a holdover
When I was at basic training I cut myself and over dose on my meds.. I didn't try to kill myself I was just in a bad place. Stuff I found out back home that really affected me DON'T DO THIS. it will really follow you the rest of your life. And also I didn't get a dishonorable discharge you get chapter out under honorable conditions so I was ok and so was everyone else who went a little crazy..
There was one private who lost it on the first day, he just started crying his eyes out during the smoke session/Welcome on our first day of Basic. He just couldn't handle it. They cut him some slack, just gave him cleaning duties for a few days and sent him on his way.
That's really depressing. I don't want to put him down, but... Damn. I think BT is something someone like that really needs in life. But I'm not a mental health expert, so I don't know.
I'm going home, I'm not quitting per say but the military life isn't for me and not good for my mental health, I've had so many mental breakdowns I've lost count, days where i can't sleep, days where i don't even eat at chow time, my Drill Sergeant, the docs at Behavioral Health, and even my battle buddies from basic all agree that it's best for me to go home and back to college, I am diasgonis with depression and anxiety and I'm going home from AIT with a medical discharge due to mental health, I do salute and will pray for those who made it and hope you keep this college student safe.
Marco Muñoz You’re an asshole lol
Smart decision. It's hard to change direction once you commit but I think people like you are mentally tough. Most people prefer to lie to themselves or get influenced by peer pressure to continue something they're not passionate about.
I hope you're doing well in school and picked a good major.
That's called quitting lmfao
@@marcomunoz7784 you're a piece of s?*t
I hope you're happier now. Be well.
My buddy fell off eagle tower at the end of basic. Broke his back in 2 places and was told he shouldn't be walking anymore. They gave him a medical discharge.
Seriously, I would rather go thru another 6-8 weeks of basic training than go thru the experience of getting fired from a job I really liked, when I never even saw it coming. That several minutes of getting fired and having your livelihood yanked out from under you is far worse than an entire basic training course! What that does to you is truly indescribable!
Same.
Happy Trails ?
Hell, being in federal prison for 20 months (or any time longer then that) is WAY worse than BCT/AIT/OSUT. I went through all of my 12B OSUT and I basically quit - I was in prison for 20 months and I've worked out and as soon as I am off of supervised release I WILL re-enlist. I will see how that goes when I get there.
Note: I was discharged honorably - the incarceration happened roughly 4 years after my discharge.
Same here, I got fired from my first job because of something I didn’t do, I thought the company had my back because they ran an investigation and cleared me of all fault yet they still fired me, really hurt a lot because I enjoyed that job so much, even though the pay was downright minimum wage (I think it should’ve been at least $10/hour)
The quickest way out is graduation :)
Amanda Goodlin incorrect
Cmhs got me out in 3 weeks on medical
It is EPTS and don’t end up on the 4th floor.
62squad DS every morning at 4:30: “let me guess, 450, CMHS?”
TrueGamerOpinion vive 30th AG!
Hold overs and sick call warriors get treated less than dirt, don't be that guy
Not true. I was a hold over because I missed my sit-ups by 2 to pass my APFT. We were treated better than the new recruits. Because basically we did graduated. My and 7 others. They even had us toss their bunks over when they found someone's wall locker that was unsecured. They actually talk to us normal. We even did funeral details too when we weren't doing anything while we still waited for the new class to start and take the PT test with them. I did 11 funerals in our class A's while being a hold over. Me and the other 7 we did both 21 gun solute, folding the flag and I was the present man who gives the folded flag to our DS which who then gives that to the family. I have to say I did something many people didn't get to do while being an hold over.
My holdovers get their phones.
@@hhds113 was this at reception or basic
@@caitlinw2585 Basic
thats why break out lol you dont stay there u just leave
The important thing to remember is that serving in the Armed Forces is public record. Anyone can submit the freedom of information act request and the DoD will release only specific info regarding your service records (start date, end date, branch of service, deployments, combat service w/ locations, medals received, rank and characterization of service (honorable, dishonorable, etc). So remember your service is public record and can show up on background checks. Trainees receive uncharacterized because you never actually made it to your unit. This is not an honorable discharge. The VA will not consider you a veteran until you serve 180 of Active service After training. So you have to complete training and serve 6 months Active to get VA healthcare. To get GI Bill you Must receive Honorable. General under honorable conditions will not count. Had a trainee drop out on my campus tried to apply for gibill and we were like "dude... You failed training. There's no gibill for you". It's like no one reads the contract they sign
No one should be able to force ANYONE to do something they do not want you to do. IF you want to leave, they should let you leave. If they wanna take you to court do it. Keeping you sounds like kidnapping to me. That should be illegal.
You are absolutely right.
The bottom line, you gotta have a strong mindset. Yes the training part can take a physical toll, but it's more of a mental challenge than anything you gotta have the mindset to get through it and remember, it's only temporary.
Just don't quit, pain and suffering of rigorous physical activity will subside and go away, quitting stays with you forever.
I went to Fort Jackson we had a lot of people quit in basic and there were back home within 3 to 4 weeks of quitting they were gone long before the platoon graduated.
This was my case as well. We had 4 people from my Company quit within the first 3 weeks, and they were home within 2 weeks of their "I Quit" date
Lucas Darst Why did they quit?
MIimo Reii I guess they just realize it wasn't what they wanted to do with there life.
RELAXIN JACKSON😂😂😂😂
I was at Benning, we had guys quit too, but they were sent back to another company at 30th AG, and were still there when we graduated.
You're not getting a dishonorable discharge while in basic, it's only an entry level separation. The worse that can happen is that you wound be able to join the military ever again.
Hey Angel Guzman is there any possibility that u can quit aftr your graduation and before going to the tech school? Can a cadet volunteerly opt out aftr graduation by paying a penalty? Plz do reply
Zeeshan Ali Nope, you signed a contract for 4 years.
I got an ELS and they said we could re-enlist after 6 months lol. I think you have to get a waiver though but I'm not sure
Luke Cole I just refused to train at WTRP, now I’m waiting (for like two days) to be sent back to my
company and they’ll probably separate me from there.
@@lukecole6203 How long did it take you to get home from the time you started the paperwork?
When I was at Fort Benning, we had one guy who quit but had a legitimate reason for it. His mom was dying from cancer and a bunch of different illnesses and our CO allowed him to call his mom every other day, and then he refused to train. He told me he was given a failure to adapt and about a year later was able to re-enlist due to his reasoning of leaving. Its crazy that some people try to end their life at basic training, I couldn't imagine doing something like that.
Dang that sucks. And yeah that's pretty legitimate that he basically wanted to be with his mom. And yeah, I don't get it man.
Shootemup89 Your videos are very informative. Thanks alot for the content. It really cleared up many concerns I have about the military. I plan on enlisting after I graduate and I have absolutely no intention of quitting basic.
Yo bro was it a white scronny guy with brown hair ??? I think i might of met him at meps he was like 5'9 5'10 ish
We had a female recruit hang herself in the squad bay
@@fatguyscanhike7656 did she die? Who tf does that that scares me
"Hold Over" is mainly about those who couldn't graduate with their class because they failed a course or failed APFT and have to repeat it to pass. Same goes with medical reasons too. Its basically holding there until they pass whatever they failed at and once pass they can move onto their AIT. They are not quiters. At least most of the hold overs are not. And I admit I was one of those hold overs. I went into basic in 2003. The ONLY thing stop me from graduating with my class was my sit-ups. Passed everything. So our DS had us stay in the small room which is the DS room and had to wait till the new class did their first APFT. Once they did theirs we did ours with them. So I finally passed and again had to wait for the next class to graduate and go with the next class to AIT. That was a week away after I pass my PT test. I didn't quit. So basically when I finally graduated from AIT I was a class behind. But that's okay. Nobody's perfect. And I pushed myself to my limits to make sure I graduate AIT on time unlike my basic training one. That's my story on why you don't quit. You push yourself more and work on what you need to work on you won't have any trouble. So what I was a class behind, I graduated.
Just graduated OSUT on Friday from Ft Benning. I'll add something to this it's what our First Sergeant told us on day zero at BCT. The fastest way out of BCT is to graduate. It's not that bad guys. To anyone going to training soon, just remember each day why you joined and it will get you through!
PENS68, I enlisted in Army ng 11bravo a couple days ago. So the only way to fail is to quit? Which I will never do.
It's not that bad, it's the other 4 years in active duty that recruits have hovering over their head they want to avoid. Most people quitting would easily finish BCT if it meant going home for good.
I'm at Benning right now and currently being discharged for Tourettes. I still haven't gotten a timeline on when I'll be home
I joined on a whim so I couldnt really fall back on “remembering why i joined”. Just wanted to see what it was about
@@AroundSun finally someone said it
I got injured near the end of the BCT stage at OSUT. Had a hip fracture, then surgery. Went on con-leave and came back to my original company which was now in the AIT phase, I made up all the events I missed and was able to graduate with my original company. I was catching up literally every day but I made it. 3 years later I got reinjured and went through a med-board. All in all, i'm glad I went through everything I did.
I'm in essentially the same situation (aside from surgery). Should I just roll back up to my old Troop and let them know I'm back? How does returning from convalescent leave work?
@@somethingsomethingusername802 i should probably have checked this sooner. Lol but yeah, you basically return to your original company and return to duty while they figure out the best course of action from that point forward. Depending on what phase you're in, they may go for a recycle or maybe they'll be super chill and let you make up everything you missed. Some of the other trainees may not like you for going on con leave, just a warning.
I did Infantry basic (OSUT) eight years ago.
I ended up getting a stress-fracture on my pelvis that started at around week 5-6.
They put me on crutches and eventually sent me home for 30 days to heal.
When I got back to Benning, my class was almost ready to graduate. Once they did, I got sent to hold-over, for about a month, while I did rehab.
Eventually, I joined a new company, who were at week 4 already.
Long story short, it was a six month ordeal to finally get my blue cord.
I was treated fine as a hold-over, but it’s like purgatory. There’s not much to do, so the days crawled by. That month felt like three months.
Long story short: keep your head up; it’s absolute hell at times, but the misery does end eventually.
Definitely don’t quit, no matter what.
I got injured in Navy boot camp on day one. Toughed it out for a month but got sent to the doctor and they discharged me. Seems Army is more willing to keep guys no matter what; Navy wants to kick them out for any reason.
@@RoundenBrown
It’s not that; it’s because A pelvic stress fracture is a common injury that heals on its own. I did see a few guys get kicked out for other injuries and health issues.
Some folks just aren’t cut out for the military, but it’s nothing to be ashamed of. Just go be successful somewhere else. I’m an honorably discharged Army vet by the way and I’m glad I served.
I couldn’t do it mentally. Got out of the USMC after graduating boot camp in 2000. Kept moving forward, struggled, but came out on top. I do still feel guilt/shame/regret at times, but it just wasn’t for me.
@@liamlynch2115 - don’t sweat it. At least you tried.
I never knew any of the things you outlined in this video, only that if you TDP, you're in for a less-than-honorable discharge. But as I said under another of your videos, I repeat here: I wanted to quit so bad I could taste it, just 3 weeks in. If not for strong family opposition, I WOULD have quit. But I am SO glad I stayed in, was forced to stick it out, and finished my 13 weeks of OSUT. That whole experience changed me forever. Some of my better character traits can be traced back to the disciplines forced upon me during that unpleasant time. It built character and resilience. I'm now in my fifties, and I'm still organized, self-disciplined, keep a clean home, and 'move with a purpose' when I set out to do something. And I have plenty of interesting stories to tell my two boys. I would have NONE of that today, and nothing but bad memories, if I had instead quit!
laundry detergent is basic and a detergent. It is basically both water and fat soluble, so if you drink it, it will pretty much disolve the cells of your esophagus, larynx, stomach, and lungs. It's a very painful and inefficient way to commit suicide. Alkaline burns are often worse than acid burns because they don't tend to crust the way acid burns do, instead they cause unprotected flesh to slough off in a watery goo. It's quite horrifying.
Ain't nobody finna drink
One thing I want known is I never lost love or desire for the Army, I wore the uniform with immense pride and dignity. There isn’t a day that go’s by I don’t think about all that time spent there, believing in something and then losing it all, but mostly losing my own mental state. I tell people who have asked me that I’m not a soldier, and I’m not a veteran, but I was in the Army. I didn’t quit because I was a quitter, I left because it was the absolute best decision for me, and my future family. Sometimes being a man is looking in the mirror and seeing your true self, your own truth of what IS RIGHT. No one can take that power from you.
“What happens when you fail basic training..... you turn into a young slim shady” 😂😂😂
In 1981, when I was in, a guy married one day before shipping out. He went nuts and walked to the CO s office and said he was gay, and apologized for not being honest. The commander replied, "Son I don't believe you!! But, if you really want out bad enough to make up a story like that I'll let you out, now." He signed him out that day, and he grabbed his gear and told us about it and left.
Never forget. The best way to not regret joining the military is to simply not join at all. Seriously. Don't do it. It's not worth your time. It's not worth the sacrifice. And it's not worth your freedom. Because if you do, ALL of it will be taken away. And not for any good reason. Don't do it.
We had a mofo quit/refuse to train back in 2010, Ft Jackson. He stuck around the entire time.....AND STILL GRADUATED! The amount of hatred we had for the guy, especially on our victory forge ruck march, he rode in the fallout van the whole time and had the nerve to change his socks when we got to the training site.
DomoDolo, For real? I enlisted in Army ng 11bravo couple days ago, so the only way to fail is quit or go awol, which I would never do.
DomoDolo wow really I ship out to ft Jackson next month for bct
How is that possible? You dont graduate if you dont eventually train or pass courses and pt tests. That means from 30th ag on you could do nothing and sleep all day and grad? Horse shot
I quit basic for several reasons, im not gonna get into why, but here is how it played out for me: I ended up trying to refuse to train, and my drill sergeants first told me it didn’t exist. I kept asking because I knew it did exist, but they didn’t have it until around white phase where my senior drill sergeant just called me to his office and told me he knows I’m trying to get out of here and that it’s a process and I just gotta be patient. He helped me out with that whole process. I had another situation going on while this was happening where I was on profile. I was told I couldnt leave until i was RTD (returned to duty), which took around 7-8 weeks total. Then after I was RTD, I got sent back to reception a week after that at the return home company, and then I stayed there for a week until I came back. Ive been home for a little over a week now. Honestly my pride took a huge hit. I’m ashamed of the way I acted sometimes during bct, but overall I don’t regret it. Definitely wasn’t for me and I came into everything with the wrong mindset, expectations, and extremely little information due to lack of effort/research. A part of me wants to reenlist after 6 months because I’m not barred from the military but I really don’t know. I know I will hate it but I want to prove I can do it because in all honesty it wasnt that bad to begin with and it gets way easier. It’s just that I really don’t want to be in the army
Z H, I gave you a thumbs up for sharing, but want to know, what is it that you hope to gain by going back or not?
@@goodmeasure777 Just wanted to prove I could do it, probably won't go back though, at least not for a few years. Doing some other things right now.
I quit too, tried to quit on day 1 but they kept stonewalling me for a couple weeks. Eventually they let me.
@@RoundenBrown honestly life been way better since i got out. Hope the same for you bro
I was 18 when I went to Parris Island. I found myself extremely home sick/depressed/anxious. I just could not get past it. I was that guy that refused to train a few occasions and tried saying I had headaches etc. Nothing worked. Against the odds I graduated a Marine. At combat training I still felt awful. It’s hard to explain. I just couldn’t shake it. It wasn’t for me. There they also told me my enlistment would be extended to 5 years because the mos school was long. I was an idiot and went in open contract. I tried to get switched to Reserves but they wouldn’t even entertain that idea. Ultimately I got out by pretending I was suicidal. Uncharacterized entry level separation, RE4.
Hi Matt, I appreciate all your videos and I’ve been watching your videos for a few months.Unfortunately, my daughter called me yesterday stating she has fractures in her ankles and knees. I’d like to learn more about the process when this happens. She was on her last day of white phase (B12 EN BN). We trust the process and we give God the Glory!
Hey just want to know how long it took for your daughter to come home??
The hardest part is getting injured early in training, couldnt do any training while i was injured pretty much destroyed my moral, eventually i went into 3 week without training, so i just took the medical separation.
It seems really dumb that you sign your life away and you're not alowed to go back on it.
Griffin Jenkins you can, alot of people get kicked out for unknown medical problems, or just psych out. At least that how it was in the Navy.
Griffin Jenkins By playing your cards right you can get out in a few weeks
@@drudenae hows that?
@@drudenae by being a pussy
@@unodosxx can you chill? 😂 You've commented this to multiple people.
When I was at reception in 2005 in Fort Sill, the cadre there was PHENOMENAL. Due to the circumstances and amount of trainees they had, there was a long wait for companies and batteries to go into basic training. So, a lot of guys got disheartened and unmotivated. A lot wanted to quit simply because they got tired of waiting or started having second thoughts. I don't know the stats off hand, but I remember only ever seeing about 3 out of several hundred guys who were quiters so to speak. The cadre made every effort they could to mentor the guys who were considering giving up and were able to talk a lot of guys into staying. Sometimes quitting on the people who are giving up is just detrimental on the Army as the people quitting themselves. Really outstanding Commanders and Drill Sergeants.
I'm glad you liked it!
Dude, you don’t know what people are going through internally. I wouldn’t call them a quitter.
I love your videos. thank you! your like thee only one that gets in depth about everything 💖
cyndiii 123 awesome, thanks for the support! That means a lot, really
I was advised by a recruiter to apply for an Army ROTC scholarship. I spent a few weeks at ROTC basic and finished well enough to be offered a full-time university scholarship. Military Science was basically like a minor discipline. ROTC activities were alot of fun and I made lifelong friends. I was commissioned as a reserve officer immediately upon graduation with a three year active duty commitment followed by a five year reserve duty. I'd highly recommend that route.
I was at Sill 15 months thanks to an ankle injury halfway through white phase... Physical therapy, surgery, recovery, more therapy, walk-to-run, and had to recycle to the beginning. Still think it's funny how, when I recycled, I pretty much fried my DSs' brains in confusion when they saw I had TA-50 on Day 0. Despite how long the recovery was for my ankle, I still got one of the fastest run times on that PT test. I actually got so used to the environment, some DSs got extra heated when I wasn't the slightest bit intimidated by them because I had gotten so used to it.
I sprained my ankle pretty bad in bootcamp and was placed on light duty for a few days. When they took the bandages off, my ankle was still swollen and hurt like hell, but the absolutely fear of being recycled made me gut it out. I kept quiet about it and was miserable for the remainder of my training. I think my DIs knew what was up, but they couldn't really do anything because I was completing the training and I didn't complain. About mid-way through training, we picked up a recruit who was recycled from an earlier platoon. He had the misfortune of developing appendicitis during training and told me how miserable it was waiting to be assigned to another platoon while he healed. Wasn't about to let that happen to me no matter what. Bottomline, you want to get off the island? You complete your training and graduate.
It’s a decision that people should know what they are getting themselves into with no regrets.
I also quit. Joining was the biggest mistake I’ve made in my life in my opinion. 2 weeks at company to get moved to return home unit. Two weeks watching tv and browsing the web at the return home unit. This was benning.
Anthony D'Antonoli What happened the two weeks
before you went to RHU? my boyfriend had the option to either restart basic
completely or get ELS 10 days ago. I hope it’ll be soon.
Lindsey Wehunt so basically I just told them I’m not training anymore and it was not for me. I made up my mind completely to return to school as I did when I got home. DS ignored me a few times and then I kept on refusing to train and we sat together and started signing the papers. Over the two weeks I had to sign a few things off and speak to the captain as well. He kind of spat in my face but I was determined to go do I held true to my belief. Then finally a few days after the meeting with the captain he signed off and I went to the RHU. I believe it’s faster now because the army does not want to pay that person to not do anything and they’re kind of pushing to get these people out by order. That’s the rumor at least when I was there. Good luck to you both!
Anthony D'Antonoli thank you so much!!
So I got sent home on con leave due to me fracturing both of my fibulars in my legs. If it’s not healed on the end of my con leave do you think they’ll EPTS me our? I’ve already told them I wanted out so I’m hoping they see it’s not healed and just push me out
@@anthonydantonoli9602 tell your kids you were a puss an couldn't hack it. They will be so proud. All your friends will know you as the guy got kicked out. You're a puss. Later in life you will regret your cowardness
The thing that set me over the edge was the lack of information and having no one. My battle buddy’s were told to hate me by our drill sergeants for being to weak. I understand why the did what they did, they couldn’t allow others to try to use their injuries as an excuse, they were right for it in their own way. It took it’s toll anyway, left me in a very dark, lonely place. I would go and hide in my locker while they cleaned weapons or cleaned their lockers. It was the one place no one could touch me, but of course I was still trapped. I’m not going to go into grave detail about my experience but I realized being an athletic or combative person didn’t actually matter that much there. It helped in training but everyone gets broken down. Unfortunately for me I wasn’t being built back up, and I was just knocking myself down more, and more.
Hey man I’m really sad this happened to you and I’m happy to see you still around telling your stories! Did you end up quitting or did you complete it anyway? Have a good day man!
@@Nohandlefortoday Quitting? Yes and no, my Company Commander was actually very helpful. Once it was obvious I wasn’t trying to waste their time, and was truly struggling mentally they helped me get home, they didn’t give me a negative discharge, and I am aloud to rejoin, even get back my same MOS. I’m rehabing my knees and taking hand to hand combat. Once my knees are as close to 100% as they can be I’ll rejoin, I am almost glad I got to experience everything and come back stronger
The whole idea of being held somewhere against your will without having committed any crime is very disturbing! Are the facilities like a maximum security prison?!?! Couldn't you just grab your stuff, walk out the gate and catch a bus home? Do you get arrested? Locked up in jail? I don't understand, especially if the person is suffering mental distress, holding them in that environment may push them over the brink, or at the very least cause PTSD which may affect them the rest of their life..
I highly doubt they will let you join if you have a mental illness or ptsd. Theres things that will disqualify you from joining thats what the meps process is for. To weed out those who have things that disqualify them cuz they want to make sure they are physically amd mentally prepared for basic.
You sign your constitutional rights away when you join and are now subscribed to the UCMJ uniform code of military justice. The UCMJ can and will hold you against your will, simply because people would walk away from combat zones or desert during wartime. Cant have that. You leave on your own will you're considered AWOL. You'll basically have an active warrant for pickup. Dont sign the dotted line if you dont want to do the time. Basic training is not army tryouts.
@@tanyaguido4375 no, I meant after you are in, and discover basic training isn't for you, forcing you to stay against your will might lead to mental distress or even ptsd. I think there have been cases where recruits have attempted suicide (though I May have heard wrong).
@@gerryeuph oh ok yeah that makes more sense i have heard of people who commit suicide in basic it is crazy. Cuz they don't bother to help you out during hard times cuz they see it as a sign of weakness and theres a whole stigma so like no one ever comes forward to begin with.
It was your on own free "will" that you enlisted. No one held your right hand up against your will. No one held a weapon to your head and made you take the oath of enlistment, etc.
We're all subject to the choices we make. Wanna make it through basic?
Do what your told. Keep your mouth shut. Embrace the suck.
Don't be afraid to quit if you figure out that military life isn't for you, or you decide that a different branch of service would better suit you. The most you'll get from quitting is an ELS(Entry Level Separation). This is not a dishonorable discharge and will not bar you from serving in the future. I'm not certain of this, but I think you still have to wait about 6 months before you can sign another contract after receiving your ELS. What will get you a dishonorable is any crime or action that can land you in prison, or jail... I think these will be mostly self-explanatory.
Edit: Edited out a poorly worded section that was confusing and convoluted.
Studley: That may be correct, but it is the people around you when you come home who judges you, if you don't continue after graduation. I think it is unfair for their record to follow them the rest of their life. Some people are not meant for the military, and these young kids go in and then find out that it is not what they expected.
What do you mean by lose a sensitive item?
I quit army because I realized the navy would be a better fit for me.
@@anonymousjohnson976 Who the hell cares what everyone else thinks? If it's not for them then it's not for them. Whatever anyone else thinks doesn't matter.
A dishonorable discharge should follow someone around for the rest of their life depending on what they did to earn it. The problem is that we sign a legally binding contract that states we will serve out our term of service. Breaking that contract should have some consequences.
It's not for everyone, but quitting at the first sign of adversity is the wrong thing to do. Everyone wants to quit in basic, some still want to quit after basic, but only a few can actually live themselves after quitting.
@@rithe07 I poorly worded the section about sensitive items, so I removed. It was an incomplete thought that I have no idea where I was going with now.
Been a few years ago, but after I graduated BCT at Benning, I arrived at my AIT in Leonard Wood early and stayed at their reception for two weeks. Not as bad as 30th AG, but still not the best. There was a holdover there who had been there for over a year due to him lying about his criminal record. No idea how long he was there after I left.
I have a few interjections, I was medically discharged due to fracturing my hip, I could hardly walk and I was sent home with out the choice to return. The second is no discharge weather it’s dishonorable, medical, or a FTA is on your record if you have less than 180 days of active duty. While at basic this days do count towards active duty days so if you are there that long then it would go on your record. I was there for about 130-140 days in total and my medical discharge is not on my record. Good video keep it up.
Alec Schenck how long was the process for you to return home. How are you doing now
Damn I leave in a couple days to Fort Jackson. I'm pumped I can't wait to do this. Wish I had more time to get fit. I only had a month and worked full time late night hours.
How was it?
did u fail?
I was medically discharged from the U.S. ARMY for asthma and I found this out at basic but I also have mild scoliosis. I never wanted to quit, I pretty much begged to stay to the 1st Sergeant but he said it was go home or change MOS. All I ever wanted to be was a 68WHISKEY or an 11BRAVO so I chose go home. I still feel like a scumbag for thinking of myself and not changing my MOS. I just have to know, am I weak minded for choosing to come home and not change my MOS be cause I'm not physically able to do combat. If you read this thank you and thank you brother for your service, Happy 4th hoowah!!!
If I were you I would have changed the MOS.
MIimo Reii told me I'd end up being a cook. That's not what I wanted to do in the army.
The Game Advisor What were your other MOS options aside from being a cook? Or was that your only option?
MIimo Reii honestly can't remember. Non-Combative MOS was all I could do.
The Game Advisor did you have asthma before the army
I got injured during basic but they told me nothing was wrong got home went to the doctor I have a stress fracture but it’s healing and I’m on crutches. I return next week. Trying to push through this pain so o can graduate good luck everyone do not quit! They are only going to keep you here longer lol.
Sophia Sugar if they medically cleared you and you weren’t healed then you can sue them. Lol. The sick call doctor told me that when I fractured both my femurs.
Can you give us an update, like how did it turn out? I was in Gold Phase when I fractured my left femur, and recently got send home for 30 days.
Winston Smith how are you doing know
Now
Something similar happened to me, got six stress fractures due to a training accident, they didn't give me a choice, and sent me home. I'm hoping to go back once I get a waiver.
I was drafted into the Army during Vietnam. NOBODY failed basic training during that period, the Drill Sergeants “fixed” it to make sure you graduated basic training. Uncle Sam needed body counts in the ‘Nam!
I’ve always been curious to know.....I did my 2 and left the Army (living in the field was not for me) but, I recall back in the early 80’s going through basic with a private, this guy had it all.... 6’ tall, rock solid muscle, ran like a gazelle, passed all basic requirements, qualified expert rifle & grenade. The one thing...... this guy seemed to know exactly what the DS’s were trying to do, even before they told everyone what they wanted us to do, it was as thought this guy had their “play book” memorised. Well, the week of graduation, he was separated (not because of quitting, drugs, medically, or a criminal record). Still don’t know how/why as this guy was the most squared away soldier I ever saw, most everyone thought it was a huge loss to the Army? So tell me as he did NOT quit (besides drugs or medical reasons) how could this of happened?
The Regular Guy Look lol guy was forsure ci
The Regular Guy Look cid**
You won’t get a dishonorable if you just quit you will get a chapter 11 and have to wait 6 months before you re-enlist. so yeah they say you will be their over a year but in all reality the longest you stay is 3 months.
went through basic went to AIT. did another 4 months in AIT and hated every second. Decided it wasnt worth and didnt see it getting better after AIT. Told a mental health doctor i wanted out. I was on the beach in a 4 star hotel a week later.
I went into the military with very little cartilage in both of my knees (I lied at MEPS and didn’t say anything at Reception). I managed to get micro tears in both my outer meniscus and inner meniscus in my knees. I made it worse by refusing to go to sick call. It got to the point where I could only walk straight legged and couldn’t physically run. My Senior Drill Sergeant repeatedly told me to go to sick call to get checked out and I refused. Eventually he told me I didn’t have a choice and it was only getting worse so I agreed to go. When the ran all of their tests they discovered I had damn near no cartilage and had micro tears (+ Patela fomoral sybdrome and IT band Syndrome).
After growing up in Watts with the guys who started the bloods and trying not to let the crips and Cholos try to beat or kill me basic training was the beginning of the best time in my damn life!!!!!
Basic training saved my life.
I won't quit my only reason will be I miss home but I refuse to give up down to the early 30s I'll be gone pretty soon I can't wait June hurry
I'm joining in my early 30's too better late than never.
Hes talking about people attempting it, and I can completely back him up on it, the amount of times ive heard of these kids now a days killing themselves in basic is crazy especally because of how often it happens
While I'm not in the military, what I can say is that with anything in life that's going to be a challenge and you know pretty much what you're getting yourself into...make sure you're mentally 100% into it beforehand. That's a big key to being successful at the challenge. If you're not into it upstairs before you start, your odds of failing are better than your odds at success.
Please stop with the inaccurate information. You are going to ruin someone's life. You aren't and you can't get a dishonorable discharge in an administrative separation. Almost everything you say is wrong.
That much is true. To get a dishonorable, you have to commit a major crime, like rape or murder. Almost no one gets one.
More common is the “big chicken dinner”.
I was at the only Battalion in the Army that trains 11C’s, 1-19. I had an option 40 Contract. Airborne Ranger (RASP). I had wanted this career all my life, specifically Airborne Ranger 75th Ranger Regiment since I was 10. I joined at the age of 21. I had done martial arts and sports my whole life, and I loved to shoot guns. Everything I could have wanted was being held from me was I was injured. It wasn’t a matter of the Army sayin it was impossible for me to be and 11C at minimum, but that the damage I would continue to do to my knees would be irreparable. Eventually I became weak minded, told myself I couldn’t face my father for failing something as easy as Basic Training. How could I tell my parter I failed the physical tests because my knees were too weak? I would have never felt like a good protector for her. I let all these evil thoughts and lies enter my head. I ended up trying to hang myself twice. It was not because it was “hard” I was in great physical shape outside of my knees and BT overall IS super easy.
@Giovanni Richezza. Thank you for sharing.
People always preach a dishonorable discharge or getting fired from a job is life ruining. Simply don’t put it on your resume. Simple solution. When is the last time an employer made you show proof of a high school diploma? For your own good misinformation lol
I enlisted SEP2717. I became 11B, After six months I started questioning if the Army was for me. After 9 months.... (current day) I decided, I want out, I know I sound like I gave up, but my reasoning is very different than that. I'm leaving because, through, A LOT of self reflection I decided it wasn't for me. It sounds silly. I know, But I'm saying, If you want to enlist. Do research and really think. Truly think "Is this what I want" because I garentee, you might think differently down the line. I'm not giving up, I'm just choosing differently. I guess I'm saying that, The military isn't for me. And that's okay.
bravo 2-19???
So you can back out at reception?
What was your reasoning and what made you want to leave? Was it your unit? Was it the fact that 11b does mostly cleaning?
I want more people to know about that last part. Do your research no matter what because you might get into it and then end up realizing you don’t want to pursue the army anymore. A lot of people think everyone who goes to basic has dreamed of it their whole life and really want to be in the army. Sometimes people just want something different and end up enlisting without doing much research, and then they end up being unmotivated and wishing they pursued a different path
I remember becoming a Holdover in 1998 when i started having some Lung issues. One of our Drill Sergeants sent me and another man to run through our quarters to make sure that everyone was outside and when i came out i was pale as a ghost and having trouble breathing worse then i ever had. The Drill Sergeant came up to me and sent me and my buddy to the Hospital so I could get checked out. The Doctor found that i had lung problems that were never diagnosed and signed papers to send me home. I went to Holdover status and they were really nice and I would have been out with in a week had I went to the right company when i got back to the main center for new recruits coming in. I accidentally went to either Bravo instead of Alpha. ended up there for 2 weeks. Until the one of the Drill Sergeants came over to me and said are you ready to go home. I was like yes and he said you would have already been home had you went to Alpha company. We both Laughed at that for like 5 whole minutes. I wish I could have stayed but under Doctors orders I had to go home.
Nothing wrong with that at all; sorry to hear about it though.
@@Valphyr thank you
Not sure its fair to label someone with a torn muscle or broken something as a quitter. that's different infact the sticking it out till they can get back to it. has to be respected that is here in the UK
Honestly why join
Good question. For 75% of people I’d say don’t. I loved it though.
Took me 6 weeks to go home fort jackson
Pretty much not related, but I knew a guy at Marion Military Institute that injured his knee and had to take an unusual route to get commissioned. For those that don't know, MMI is a 2 year college participating in the early commissioning program. You don't contract until you graduate so the Army isn't medically responsible for you. So you go to Basic Camp(different from basic training) straight from high school. Then freshman year you're an MS3, basic more or less having covered MS1 and 2. Next summer you go to Advanced Camp and a very few go to Airborne or Air Assault before return for sophomore year where you are an MS4. 9 months later you graduate with your associate degree and get commissioned on the same weekend, I think it's one day apart.
Anyway, this guy hurt his knee(destroyed it really) in advanced camp. He could have quit right then and transferred to a civilian college if he wanted to since he wasn't contracted. At the same time he wouldn't have been eligible for VA benefits and i think he would have owed ROTC scholarship money back. But he chose to return to Marion. His academics progressed like normal. I'm actually not sure what his military science class would have been. He'd already competed 3 but wasn't training with the 4's, but I'm not sure they would have stuck him with the 2's either. Anyway, he competed his associates and watched his classmates get commissioned. MMI is a fairly high speed environment for context. He transferred to a 4 year public college and repeated MS3 and finished MS4 in a really low speed environment by comparison. But all good, he went on to a good career. Not sure if he made it to retirement but I think he was in at least 15 years or so.
They also hope you change your mind.
You can change your mind after quitting??? I had no idea
I went to 30th and the first 4 days I was falling asleep standing up, dreaming and having small hallucinations due to lack of sleep
Miguel Angelo omg the good old days 😂😂 basic taught us that you could sleep doing anything specially standing up
On god!! red phase was like having post Malone’s face tattoos on my face “always tired”
i got sent home under ETSP medical discharge. i am anemic so they sent me home i have 180 days before i can go back. i’m 100% planning to! not all of the hold overs are quitters. i was a hold over for a week at fort jackson. they knew that whenever they sent us back to the bay we would nap but they didn’t care as long as our bay was clean and we were doing our work details well without problems. they let us eat as long as we want but because of the recent problems at 120th the females were good as long as we didn’t talk to the males. (this was just at reception.. as a holdover)
Life of Kaylynne I can’t wait to walk into the recruiters office in September to sign up again . At least we didn’t quit lol
You are dedicated to your goal and ready to make it happen. Get 'er done, young lady!
I quit bct. I have a leg injury but a year and half later I know I should have toughed it out. DO NOT QUIT you will regret it for the rest of your life like me.
They shouldn’t have let you quit. When I did basic, 8 years ago, the drill sergeants wouldn’t let anyone quit. A few guys tried, weren’t allowed, and ended up graduating.
@@Elevenbravo_ABN they pretended like we weren't allowed to but if you're stubborn enough it works. unfortunately
@@slyrez
Okay. At least they tried.
Bct is not where you want to find out you are bipolar. Trust me. I had incompetent sergeants. It took them 8 weeks to do 2 weeks of paper work 😭. The worst part is I wanted to stay so bad, but I was considered a danger to myself and others, so I was sent home
Damn... I'm sorry about that. Therapy can work wonders, and even placing your faith in a power greater than yourself. After your symptoms become manageable (and I assure you, it is possible), perhaps you can go back. Better days, my friend.
If I failed or quit BCT and came home, my dad will look at me sideways and SHH and tell me..you cannot handle boot camp!!!
And being an Hold Over myself, we actually did 11 separate military Funerals both on post and off post in our class A's while we wait for the new class to start and we take our PT test with them. Me and the 7 other hold overs folded the flag, did the 21 gun solute and I was the present man who gave the folded flag to our DS and he presented that to the family. I have to say it was the most unique experience at the very beginning of my military career. Something many don't get to say. It was a very honorable thing to do.
The only way to get a dishonorable discharge is to be convicted at a general court martial for a serious crime. Those who "quit" or just can't hack basic training are given entry level separations. These are neither honorable nor dishonorable discharges.
I shouldve watched this video before I became a holdover, I’m home now but still I regret it
How long did the whole process take to get out?
I am 28
Out of shape
Married
Basically retired, I have my own business running even while I'm gone so I can do reserve service
I served in the IDF and hated it because I was not respected or paid, it is mandatory otherwise you go to jail and the service sucked ass with zero benefits
Your videos make me want to enlist in the US army...
I think I gotta lose those 10 extra American pounds and get my feet ready and go or this but... Am I gonna be the only 28-30 old guy?
No
You won’t be the only one that old
I’m 25 I’m trying to join
You have to be at minimum 17 (for the National Guard and Reserves, 18 for Active Duty) and at max 35.
There always at least one or two guys who are 30, in Army basic.
12:12 - Goddamn! whole bottle of laundry detergent? He's prolly either warning those tide pod kids... or tellin' 'em to get on his level...
Lots of guys at my reception ate tide pods. They kept us there for 38 days and it drove alot of people insane. You can't blame them until you feel the experience
We couldn’t quit anything 3 years mean 3 years. Thanks for your service
Hi Matt, my grandson went through basic at Ft Benning . while he was there he fractured an ankle and was worried about being reverted during his training. he was very upset about it and he did call me to talk about it. i told him when i went through boot camp in 1963 ( USCG ) i told him we had guys who were injured and were reverted but they made it through and graduated and went on to their first units. he came home here for two weeks for rest and when he went back to Ft Benning and his Sgt and Company Commander talked to him he was just fine. he is now at Ft Campbell and doing great. he also told his mother he didn't want to disapoint me i love that young man he has realy grown into a mature young man.
This is the first time I've heard of being able to just quit
Why in the world would anyone quit Basic Training if they signed up for the military in the first place? 10 weeks is not that long!
Guys don't quit!!! I went in 190 lbs, so fat and out of shape. I took a 162 PT score and turned it into a 245 at the end of BCT! Just remember, this is too fucking easy!
BT was too easy back in 1995 when I was a DS at Fort Leonard Wood. I had a trainee that fractured his leg around week 4 and he still graduated on time because he did not QUIT. I had him do cardio with his battle buddy at the gym after training ended for the day. Quitters got put on KP.
Never quit!
Honestly my first time in basic I was injured and it sucked. You just gotta remind yourself why you joined, and have some confidence in yourself. I was split option and when asked if I wanted to come back I said yes even though I thought I didn’t. I’m glad I didn’t quit. I’m going back in a week and I’m excited but also nervous for what may happen. Just gotta push through it!
How was it
@@brockrohn360 the training itself was fun but I got stuck in a platoon with problem makers so that made it hell. I made it through though. Just do your best and give it all you got and you’ll get through it.
I’m currently getting my ged and then I’m in my way in where are you what are you doing in the military
@@brockrohn360 I’m national Guard so I only do one weekend a month and I get to live where I want. I’m a 19k armored crewman. A tanker.
I separated my clavicle doing the foreman's cary in combat medic training, I did CQ duty for the remaining 6 weeks and got recycled to a new unit to finish basic training.
Got to about 11:30 mark and this is were the information is false.
Growing up I heard this
Even being reminded through my service.
But reality is, every job I ever applied at, never cared, asked, or anything about my active service...
So you can get a job with a dishonorable discharge!
Passing every aspect of training was mandatory. On Parris Island they threated to commandeer all washouts and sickbay commandos to the fry cook battalion. Where instead of 3 years with the grunts overseas, you become an engineer of pots and pans.
I was weak...I quit about 7 years ago and am finally mature enough. I’m hoping I get back in.
Caleb McCammon hey man. I did that and got back in. Best decision ever made to go back in.
Daniel Evatt ya I can’t wait. My biggest obstacle right now is a DV charge so the lautenburg act took my gun rights. I’m told that in my case that should be all that’s stopping me and since my time is up, I just need to pay a lawyer a few hundred to square up. I just felt so unaccomplished and disappointed in myself for getting out, now at least I can see the goal post
Daniel Evatt how hard was it to come back in? Was it difficult getting a waiver?
Updates?
WOW. "semi weak minded.....I don't want to say that in a bad way...." I find it eerily ironic that this vid is posted about the same time that mutliple DIs in Parris Island were held accountable for driving a recruit to his death. An online article today (TaskandPurpose) released figures showing an increase in suicides especially among Marine recruits. I believe the 2018 figure was 58 Marine recruits took their own lives. So, Matt, I guess there were at least 58 Marines who were weak minded last year...........but, I don't want to say that in a bad way.
Matt, you're spreading false information
On quitting basic training. If you do not commit a crime during basic training, then it is Entry Level Separation. Doesn't matter if you're suicidal, or quit.
It will not affect your future job prospects. Got it everybody
Yes!! "HoldOvers".... This sucks ...I saw them in Basic and AIT....You will spend 9 weeks there....Hope people listen to this video, closely... Appreciate this information
In my basic/AIT in June 2001, we had a guy break his leg and 11 APFT failures. All were kept with the platoon and all graduated.
Dalton Fury bro you know the reason why look at the year...
@@benjaminrichards4182 people just aren't built like that anymore
@@benjaminrichards4182 9/11 didn't happen for another few months, so we weren't at war yet. So that makes no fucking sense lol
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Khabib Armageddon DID YOU KNOW ? IDGAF🤣
3:28 Holdovers are also for dudes who are waiting to leave for a specialty school. There were "holdovers" but they were waiting to leave for Airborne school
The quickest way out is never joining in the first place.
Takes about 4 weeks to un-dot the i's and un-cross the t's...if you don't f up at the separation barracks.
I use to know this dude I seen at the ball court when we ran 5 on 5 at the counts he told me he got out after 2 weeks cause he said he was depressed and was gone kill himself. He got out.
Yepp, thatll do it!
Yeah me too.... I regret it.
@@eliteeffekt Same. I regret it. Never ever say that if you're feeling home sick and want out. I may be getting another chance... hopefully there's light
VolunteerEMS yeah well yeah I understand that for a lot of people, but I was having serious problems even before I joined which was a mistake for me bc I never got treated and I went in and it made me feel so much worse
@@eliteeffekt Oh right..well for me I was home sick and a guy in my platoon said if I cant leave just say youre suicidal. I did that...went home...the second I took the nice hot warm bath it was just regret.
Failure to adapt does not go on your record lmao
You think basic training is not difficult? It's the ultimate ball busting experience. Having a loudmouth drill Sargent all up on your business all for the purpose of making you into a good soldier who obeys all orders without question.
I entered basic 7/7/1983 at Fort Sill. (I chose artillery. Stupid.) I could not adjust to the pushing and the prodding. In the platoon, I became "that guy." Couldn't focus enough to make my bunk, zero my weapon, or even to keep my sleeves rolled up. I was given a standardized unconditional discharge (A section 11), the military equivalent of an annulled marriage. They removed me from the cycle, and kept me there long enough for me to see the battery prepping for graduation, the Army waving what could have been in my face. I truly believe that the military needs to place more emphasis on getting enlistees ready for what is expected of them.
I love your channel and videos man, keep up the great work. I'm hoping to join national guard as soon as a turn 17, and your videos will help a lot for the future
Awesome, I'm glad bro. Thanks for the support!
What happens if a trainee decides to talk to someone about depression? Will he be processed out? And if he is stuck there until they sign papers will he get a phone call to let his family know? Will he still get letters?
My worst fear is quitting, im not gonna tho