New 2024 Toyota C-HR UK review - frugal and funky!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2024
- The stylish Toyota C-HR has long been a favourite model in the UK, but does the more substantial and more expensive second generation keep its edge? Jordan Katsianis tests it out on cold winter British roads to find out whether it'll be a winner in a crowded segment.
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This presenter made the car look huge. He’s a magician
The best Video Review so far
Really likeable guy, great review! 👍
New car prices are crazy. I'll keep my Corolla.
It’s basically the same car underneath
@@glennchinyangarara8225 it's not the same car the chr was build on a different platform to achieve that sporty look when keeping a 5 star safety rating and keeping the interior nice and spacy even with the plug in hybrid technology
Fantastic cars! I've driven the Excel model for 6 days and it's so gorgeous to drive being comfy, quiet and refined while looking stunning!
Only slightly larger than Nissan Juke? It’s 25 cm longer, that’s an entire class larger than Juke.
It sits a little bit higher and it has more headroom also more fuel economy, exterior design and lastly the interior quality is noticably better
The CVT is not a problem!
Indeed. Talk about not researching the Toyota Hybrid Range properly. These hybrids do not have a conventional CVT transmission. It's actually designated an e-CVT - and has nothing in common with ordinary CVT transmissions. It might be noisy under heavy acceleration - but given how out of this world the HSD propulsion system is - it is forgiven for the audible noise under full thrust. Once you reach your target cruise speed, it quietens down considerably as to be practically inaudible.
Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive propulsion vehicles don't even have a gearbox. They use a planetary gear set synchronously mated to the Atkinson Cycle Engine and the Electric Traction / regeneration motors.
Fun fact, there are no mechanical reverse gear cogs - the traction electric motors reverse polarity and push the car backwards!
The Electric motor that handles power generation on the go is the same motor that quietly spools up the engine - acting as a noiseless starter motor. It's so huge, that unlike a conventional starter motor, it barely spins a revolution or two before the engine spools to life. The technology is so unique, it might as well be black magic or reversed Area 51 Alien Technology!
The HSD is also extraordinarily reliable beyond belief.
Pathologically lame joke about an old Prius not being able to match a Mobility Scooter's speed NOT appreciated - as it is an oft perpetuated lie, cynically cementing equally uneducated and puerile myths about that legendary vehicle every time it is mentioned.
The C-HR is too small to be costing over £40k - most existing privately owned Prius Hybrids were ex-leased Uber Mini Cabs bought second hand once the lease was up - and those were around £25k brand new back in 2008 - or about £32k at most for the most expensive Plugin Prius (PHEV), more recently.
Nobody is going to use the C-HR as an Uber, and most ordinary motorists will not pony up £40k plus, for one of these - unless it is a company car.
Ironically, the 2024 C-HR is supposed to replace the Prius - as the astoundingly futuristic 5th Generation Prius model is NOT being sold in the UK.
I think you will find that the UK is now getting the Prius.
@@datathunderstorm Exactly, I get so frustrated with these journalist doing copy and paste remarks about the noisy 'CVT', its the engine you can hear, not the e-CVT, please do your research. Also, unlike other plug in hybrids, when the EV side of the traction battery is discharged, it uses a section reserved for hybrid driving and will give virtually the same MPG as the regular non plug in version.
It is when you have to pay to fix it telephone number size.bill they are over complicated mechanic 40 years I would not buy cvt
@@michaelkilbride2927 Dear Mechanic of 40 years. The C-HR doesn’t NOT have a conventional CVT gearbox.
Do read up on the Hybrid Synergy Drive propulsion system used in all Toyota and Lexus Hybrids.
It’s strictly a Planetary Gear Set - referred to as an e-CVT only because it mimics a conventional CVT in operation - but not in actual mechanical design.
Totally different technologies.
Why isn’t the UK going to get the four-wheel-drive version of the C-HR that will be offered in other markets?
Why isn’t the UK getting the Corolla Cross which is a much better proposition imho?
Because there’s the Lexus UX which is basically the luxury version of the CHR
This is an awesome looking car and I'd definitely go for the higher performance models. I test drove a basic previous version C-HR and it was gutless. It has aged quickly now too. I don't like the front. This model is really stunning and so is the interior. I'm glad that Toyota have not followed this trend of minimalist curvy large screens. I personally love a wrap around instrument cluster with separate infotainment screen and I love manual dials for the climate controls too. Currently I drive the Peugeot 3008 and while I really like the styling, it has some annoying things. It's seems almost impossible to dull the dash at night, you can't change the dash colour and everything is done on the infotainment screen. But...I do love the small steering wheel and the general layout. Mines a 2018 model. It's been reliable but this C-HR is very tempting. I need to take a test drive.
Why are so many manufacturers deleting the rear wiper from their new cars 🤔
And a spare tyre. I have full size tyre in my MK3 Skoda Fabia and it has been a life saver. Doesn't even affect boot size.
Depends on the angle of the rear window and aerodynamics play a part. If the rear window is more sloped, then airflow is generally better, removing the need for a rear wiper as water will be displaced as a result of the aerodynamics.
I had a 2020 2L CHR, Not very efficient only 45ish mpg in winter 55mpg in summer if driven gently, it was OK but yes the eCVT was annoying and the servicing was expensive at the main dealer, (you have to use them to maintain the battery hybrid warranty. So its basically just a 10k more exspensive refresh, the sat nav looks like an improvement, but its disappointing that the rear is still a dark dungeon with no vents or USB and horrendous blind spot visibility...hum!
The 2020 didn't have any safety feutures like the 2023 and the 2024 like bsm and fsacc also the 2023 had a big improvement in the infotainment and exterior design then the major refresh was the 2024 that also has usb on the bad and blind spots are not a problem
Isn’t this the 3rd one? Or are you classing the other as version 1 and facelift?
What about the 4.2l V8 haha 😜
Nice review.
I'm going to try one on Sunday but the price is waaaaay too much. I have the superb orange edition on a pcp deal so unless they can spin an amazing deal... And looking at their 4.9% Apr I'd rather go 0% on a seat... My second choice if I decide to upgrade.
Toyota has some premium cars the chr is in the entry of that category sitting with the RAV4 if you don't want to pay 40k go for a kia a Hyundai a seat or a skoda since you can find them for half the price
@@rodevz7815 I stuck with my existing c-hr. Not enough difference to swap and IMHO better cars at £40k plus
Interesting, but style over practicality - I can do without the 'funky'. No rear wiper, no 4x4 option, and price easily over £40k (as is tested model) where you pay DVLA a £390 penalty each year on road tax till year 5. The £40k limit came in a few years ago, a lot more cars now breach this price. I presume it applies also to used cars if cost over £40k when new and less than 5 years old.
Yes, it applies if you buy the car used, even though you are paying nowhere near the £40,000
I think, even if the used car price is less than £40k, if it was more than £40k when new then the £390 penalty on road tax still applies.@@Mister_H
@@Deepak-wr9ptYes, that’s what I said 👍
@@Deepak-wr9pt Aye! For the first 5 years. Once it’s paid, it’s paid. You don’t pay it again once the vehicle is over 5 years old - even as a 2nd hand buyer.
The PHEV consumption comment is a general comment about consumption after the drive battery is depleted. This is NOT a fact on Toyota Hybrid drive systems.
@timogronroos4642 Exactly as part of my comment above "...unlike other plug in hybrids, when the EV side of the traction battery is discharged, it uses a section reserved for hybrid driving and will give virtually the same MPG as the regular non plug in version..."
@@Mister_H I totally agree with you about the Toyota Hybrid and PHEV. All hybrids and PHEVs are not the same. Toyota hybrids and PHEVs are more efficient than all others. I have a Toyota Prius 2020 PHEV. When driving around the city, with an empty traction battery in winter, it gives me 75 - 80mpg and then, 60+mpg on the motorway. The mpg for city and motorway are even higher in summer.
Bit pricey, but I like the exterior looks. It’s a maybe!
Because most buy a car on tick now a days, the manufacturers just keep putting the list prices up.
Nice car
out drived, or out driven? What is the scuttle? Do mean Instrument panel or dash board?
2l motor is the pick, pricey but quality, manual would have been good. $62,000 in Australia with sunroof.
The irritating speed limit/speeding alert feature that takes so many menu clicks to turn off means I won’t be buying one. In fact if all new models launched from now on are going to have this and equally painful to disable, I won’t be buying any car newer than a pre 2024 model for the foreseeable future.
Why is the new C-HR look so much better? it's cuz they don't have to design this new one with north american market in mind..
This presenter obviously doesn't know anything about the Toyota Hybrid Synergy drive that this CHR uses and he sounds like he is reading the script of another journalist. It uses a planetary gear system and simplicity sake, it is called e-CVT. CHR or other Toyota hybrids and PHEVs do not use CVT. No problem with this e-CVT but as you accelerate, it produces a type of sound, and if you are not familiar with it, you could get easily irritated by it. This CHR e-CVT is very fuel-efficient and reliable.
If you afford 31k pound or 50k AUD car really do you care about the cost of fuel. You could buy a Yaris cross for 2/3 the price and in hybrid as well
The fact that it cost is over 40.000 means for the first five years this wonderful government really hike up the road tax. Buyer beware.
So many complications that increase the price enormously (over 40,000 euros???) - 3 engines, battery, ultra-complicated gearbox, etc., all to get a consumption of 5l/100 km in the real world, in the conditions that a 1.5 DCI engine super-simple on an antique Logan of 7,000 euros consumes 4.5 l/100km under the same conditions. This is only because Toyota is marked by a visceral hatred (of the boss) for electric cars. I kept an old Logan for a maximum of 2-3 long trips a year, for the rest (in the city and surroundings) I use an electric Spring of 8,000 euros, which consumes a maximum of 11-12 kWh/100km, i.e. less than 1.5 l gasoline/100km, so a maximum of a third of the consumption of this enormously priced Japanese Frankenstein.
Too much money for a shopping car
This Version in Belgium 51K 😂😂😂
I think they put the wrong badge on this. With that price it should be a Lexus.
This car is basically a more affordable Lexus UX underneath apart from you can’t get a fully electric version of this when you can in the UX
@@glennchinyangarara8225 The CHR Premiere is about the same as a UX 250h Executive in my area. And you might get even more discounts on the UX just because it's older and in stock. Honestly nothing against the CHR it's an amazing car, but they're pricing out Toyota customers and not even providing better value than their own highend brand.
Way overpriced. Switching this off switching that off in the menus. Two tone looks ridiculous. Shame
If you want fewer boings, keep to the speed limit. 🤷
I saw another review of a different car where the presenter kept moaning about the speed limit bongs. 🤷🤦 The amount of people who think it's ok to speed especially in 20 zones really does annoy me. And then tailgate you and try to overtake if you do. Usually poorly. The worst place is through roadworks.
Did you listen to what they said? It bongs not just when you exceed the limit, but to tell you when the limit changes. That’s excessive. If drivers eyes aren’t sufficient to read the signs, they shouldn’t be driving. Speed limit recognition is also not foolproof. My car sometimes shows the limit of a side road I’ve passed because the camera has seen the sign, but it doesn’t apply to the road I’m actually driving.
The door handles are truly annoying and inconvenient.
The last one originally came with no rear wiper, and then there was one…
I think my wife's previous models complete dash looks better to be honest
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Very smart and good looking car both inside and out. I would have the self charging hybrid if any. Hopefully next car I'll consider getting a Toyota as they seem to be a great car compared to their competitors.
It looks a right dogs dinner compared to the original. Far to expensive as well.
Frugal????
I highly recommend you guys to not buy CHR because I bought the car last year for £34,500 brand new top Gr spec.
Now the value of the car in the whole UK is maximum £26000.
CHR is a great car. All brand-new cars, either ICE/hybrid or EVs, would lose some significant amount of money (10 - 30%) after payment and as soon as you drive it off. I have noticed that a 1-year-old car Toyota Hybrid, which is usually about 10 - 20% cheaper, is almost the same as a brand new and that is why I do not buy a brand-new Toyota Hybrid.
That's where the second hand market comes in!
I cannot workout your accent. Where are you from?
England
I'm a fan of Toyota of recent times, but their cars are now just overpriced. My next car will be cheap and cheerful.
For that price you may as well buy an EV. Ridiculous price point. Then you have to pay someone to map out all the annoying safety noises.
Its self charging 🤦 no toyota its just a standard hybrid.
Door handle system is terrible and fiddly
SO EXPENSIVE NO ONE WILL BUY
you spelled fugly wrong
Manual 4X4/AWD or nothing.
Nissan suv is better and cheaper
To expensive
Avoid! Style over substance regardless of all the marketing gimmicks...
Way over priced and too small
Let make a car that's no fun or joy to drive weedy engine cvt gear box looks like a snow plow over priced and call it Toyota chr no body will buy even Toyota fan boys
Why stopped for this video?
Way way overpriced!!!!! This will not sell it’s a shame but £31-41K is unacceptable
Have you seen the price of a Corsa recently...
For £30k, i'd rather buy a Mazda MX-30 R-EV - with the Wankel Rotary Extender Engine.
Disagree. You could get two of these for the price of a £70k Kia. Kia!!!
Yes but you will miss 4wd and quality 😊@@datathunderstorm
It's a competitor to the id4 it's better than Hyundai in terms of SUV reliability and looks so it will sell as a competitor to the Peugeot 3008 and id4.
Mazda CX-30 is still better.
- Horribly slow & sluggish engine
- Mind-bending CVT transmission
- Poor sound isolation (engine & road noise accompanied with tire noise)
- Frighteningly dark interior
- Doors feel & sound cheap when shut
- Extremely expensive price tag (for what?)
No, Toyota... Just NO ! 😕
If they want to continue being reliable and frugal, the engine and eCVT is the way to go I’m afraid. It’s not that bad in general use, faster than most common cars. If you want sporty drive the GR Yaris or Supra are there
Mind-bending for all who don't have any idea how it actually works. It's not like traditional CVT at all. It's brillant, propably the best system created for a petrol car.
You sound like someone who would own a Mercedes GLC PHEV, a car far less reliable than this. And even then the car I mentioned will set you back over 65k
Such a shame it went the same way as its brother (the new Prius) and suffers from rear wiper disease. Useless for the rainy UK. All the previous models had them!