RIP TYPE R, STI, GOLF R, VELOSTER N! 2023 Toyota GR Corolla Review
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- 2023 Toyota GR Corolla review by The Straight Pipes. The GR Corolla is putting down 300 horsepower and 273 lb-ft of torque from a 1.6L Turbo 3 Cylinder At $53,990 CAD, would you take it over the Civic Type R, Golf R, Veloster N or Focus RS?
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I prefer the Focus RS 💙
I snagged a Hyundai, I think they sound the best stock and that lsd is really great
GR-4 is a call back to the Celica GT-4, it’s logical ancestor.
@@dimsoneill That Celica also said "GT-Four" on it
those gr photo are made like i made my photo on my facebbok and instagram ;) nothing more
RIP box test. You are missed
I just said the same thing. Lol
@thestraightpipes u've changed man smh smh
They were so blue and pretty :(
We need a video of just the box test now 😂😂😂
yea :(
Interesting to note about your review of this, it seems to be one of the very very very few that actually have it on the road and not track for today's release. Very important to consider for anyone planning to daily this thing and not live at the track.
Also I drove it on some rougher pavement after the video and it was definitely on the stiffer side but still totally within daily driving stiffness - Jakub
Looks like US drove on track and CANADA drove on roads
@@TheStraightPipes would you say it's less forgiving than the Golf R, I have a 2017 R, I feel everything on the pavement with those 35R19.....
@@1209MArky Well the U.S have a big problem with reality across the board it seems......especially around the Mar-a-la-go area
@@dimsoneill lmao
New Handling Test: Jacobs level of fear while Yuri is sending it through cliche corner. For this car he was straight faced and didn’t reach for the oh sh?! bar so, in conclusion, it handles like a champ. 10/10
holy shit exactly :D
But take a look at Yuri when Jacob's ripping cliche with speed. 😄
@@user-iz3gv5vo6b
Jacob's run had the tires doing more singing.
Toyota nailed it!
Shout out to the straightpipes for having the only review that didn’t take place only on the track.
i really wanted a GR Corolla, but i found out about it only a few weeks ago and its a few thousand dollars over my budget. i settled with a Veloster N and i am still quite happy.
I do love this car but mehh im a family guy now 😭 and driving rav4 2017
I have type R. But of course I love GR. The only thing I wish they could improve is to take the center display and move it out of the view of the windshield! I’m sick of looking at displays. Give me zen.
True! Hondas new tall tablets they're sticking on the dash are outdated and very ugly, sad to see!
What are you thinking of next?
The 10th gen CTR is faster than the GR. Look up the numbers Motor Trend just got with it.
@@MrJjburgess11 The new one is slower... It's already raced and compare to each other. Front wheel drive is holding it back.
It hurts my soul that Mazda has no competition to this anymore.
They have been so out of the loop it doesn’t matter anymore. Haven’t been hyped for any Mazda for a long time.
I was kind of upset when they axed the rwd 23 Mazda 6. In favor of focusing on the BS SUVs 🥱
@@porfiriato84 seems that suvs of all sizes became the norm.
Mazda doesn't have as much money to throw at ridiculous projects anymore since they broke off from Ford so they have to make money with what works best in a general sense.
@@FunkatronicDingus at least they still keep developing the miata
Really glad this drives well. Also, awesome to see a traditional review of the car on public roads. This car is made for fun daily duties imo, not really the track. Great vid and hope as everyone says that the markups aren't too crazy on these. Don't be afraid to shop around or go out of state! Or live in Canada where it's illegal :)
WAY back in the day, I had a 1986 Corolla GT-S. That was the fast Corolla then, but this thing looks like a lot of fun with the convenience of a hatch too!
Fast and corolla in the same sentence is an oxymoron
@@Welcometofacsistube It's all relative......relative to basic Corollas.
@@Welcometofacsistube *laughs in boosted 3zr 08 toyoto corolla axio* it eaaaaaaaats boost with 0 supporting mods and a manual swap cause the cvt would self combust. Corollas are very capable. They have overbuilt motors perfect for cramming boost into them.
So an AE86? That's a seriously cool car.
@@Welcometofacsistube bro thinks he's shakespear
I canceled my damn order. They tried to mark up the price by 7.5k weeks after I locked in my order. I told them that at that price range, I'll go to Chevrolet and get a god damned Camaro 1LE and have more fun all around and at the track. The general manager told me I'm not a true Toyota guy if I buy a Chevrolet. I told him my Supra alone makes me more of a Toyota guy than he'll ever be. I also told him my Z06 might not be fun but even the new 1LE Camaro is more fun all around and better performing than this overpriced Corolla. I also own an AE86 (Corolla sport gts), Mark IV Supra and my little 2000 Toyota Echo which has 321k original miles. I also have a 2004 C5 Z06. Customer service and friendliness at Toyota is nowhere near what it once was.
Use tsp.truecar.com
toyota pride always blinded americans in general. They think its the 2nd coming when toyota has never really built a great car out of the factory performance wise. They are great in that they are Cheap, Reliable, and have Reputation. Thats it. GR Yaris.....may be the exception.
I'm still leaning towards the type r in terms of cabin quality and engine, but that awd and port injection + direct injection is noice
Gonna last a lot longer without all of that carbon build up.
@@erichdiebenow4727 3 HP/cu. in. That isn't exactly low stress on engine internals. This is not your dad's 2 liter 100HP Corolla. Jury's out on the reliability issue. As for the R, walnut blasting the intakes at 60kmi isn't that big a deal.
@@johnstone7697 I’m just commenting on the known problems with exclusive direct injection.
Toyota isn't a reliability sure hit, they released a 2.7 with bad piston oil rings for a long time. You either rebuild or go through 10 quarts of oil per oil change. 5 to fill and 5 to burn. Then tundra had transmission studder problems, if you're lucky fluid additives gives you some extra life. But the transmission is trashed after warranty
@@johnstone7697 also adding a high quality catch can as it rolls off the lot will help.
No doubt, this is the best car so far, and yes, i agree this will be a legend later on.
Just to help understand the difference between "all wheel drive" and "4 wheel drive" also known as "4×4" is all wheel drive typically can have power distribution bias so rear gets more power load than the front, 4 wheel drive is all 4 wheels spinning with tbe same power and speed, typically in trucks and such
No, that's not right at all. A quick Google search will tell you the difference.
@@vilshe7449 it's what I've been told and it makes more sense, what does Google say?
@@junatah5903 Do I really need to copy + paste it here just so you don't have to search it??
"Overall, the main difference between 4x4 and AWD is that AWD systems are always active and automatically share torque among the axles when low-traction conditions are detected, while 4WD systems are part-time and need to be engaged by the driver via a lever or button in the cockpit."
Also some 4WD systems can have two different speeds, and AWD systems can share different amount of torque between the rear and front axle. (Also possible in some 4WD systems too, and are many times used interchangeably by manufacturers.)
There really isn't one defining answer what AWD or 4WD are since manufacturers decide to put whatever name they think fits best. For example my mother's 2019 RAV4 says it's AWD, even though the system is only activated by the driver. Same for many older Subaru Imprezas. But 4x4 can also be activated, as in my dad's Hilux, but the power isn't the same among all wheels (rear gets more torque than front). Got it?
@@vilshe7449 this was what I meant but engabale 4x4 or diff lock is some times not a thing but still considered 4x4.
@@vilshe7449 also what I said matches up correctly to the google search you just did. -_-
I never thought I'd be saying this but i'm excited for a Corolla. I'm in college right now, but if I end up getting a good job coming out of it I'm definitely going to try and get one of these.
I guarantee this is going to be 100000000000000000 more reliable than any S3/Golf R or whatever there is in the same category.
S3’s and Golf R’s aren’t really known to have major mechanical issues. They’re built pretty solid.
@@varsity2845 They're still susceptible to typical VW issues nonetheless. Just as this Corolla is susceptible to typical Toyota reliability
@@hushnowitsjustaurl It is bmw engine, is it not?
Golf R offers much more performance though also
Whoever wrote this comment has never owned a modern VW/Audi. These are bullet proof
Personally I wish they kept the updated hood and wing as an add on option for the core. I don't typically go to the track but I like the aesthetics of it and feel like it pulls together the whole look in comparison to a standard corolla. There will definitely be aftermarket add ons for those but it would've been nice if they could've just put it in stock
Frozen Bags xqcL
It's gonna be so marked up anyway most people with probably opt for the factory track options, but the core at msrp is still an amazing car
I currently drive a 19 XSE hatchback Corolla and hoping to upgrade to a GR soon, I’m most grateful for the switch from electronic to mechanical hand brake
I wish Best Motoring still did races with new cars like this against it’s competition.
You should watch the GR Yaris videos. They are great!
I expected toyota to develop a 4 cylinder version of that engine for the corolla, it could be a beast
If you ever get this again, I'd love to see a side by side between this and the TypeR. As a fellow FiST driver, I want this powertrain, but with the space of the TypeR.
Me too man, me too. I'd love to replace my FIST but I'm so scare to get something that isn't as perfect.
@@Labergemusic Is it an amazing little machine? Absolutely and I forever hate Ford for killing it. But I'd also like to do a grocery run where I don't have to use the back seats ☠️☠️
@@MattLavergne4 I use my front seat!
@@MattLavergne4 they didnt kill it they just stopped selling in NA, they have two new versions in europe, the mk8 and mk8.5. If they brought them here i woukd definitely buy it ha.
@@9Epicman Oh I know 😮💨😮💨 The Wagon FoST was amazing, and the redesigned MK8s are super clean. Ford NA really dropped the ball on these.
This is literally the best looking toyota to ever come out. And its a hatch and awd. Hard choice there.
100% agree
You'll always be The Hammer in our eyes Jakub 😜
🔨🔨🔨
FOCUS RS is still the best hot hatch here. GR is great but underpowered and doesn't oversteer like the RS.
now imagine the GR86 with this engine. now THAT would be legendary
Yes that’s coming next year
Ehhh I’ll take the much more responsive, lag free, high revving engine any day. It’s also significantly underrated. Makes about 250HP and considerably more torque in the low to mid range.
@@jjchockey but I enjoy being able to service the engine without removing it
A Corolla with 300 horsepower.....What a time to be alive. In my day Corolla= 72 Horsepowers
Well, don't get too excited. Toyota put a $53.000 sticker on it. SAME PRICE AS A SUPRA AND AN M2!!!!!!!!!
@@B75-u7c Ok and? Its a sportscar that punches above its weight.
@@B75-u7c this is way less expensive than an m2 or a supra. 53 is mid model in Canadian $
They're working hard to rekindle my nostalgia for the old 250 hp Celica GT four that we never got in the US.
@@gs98999 starting price for the v6 supra in the states is 55k. The circuit edition of the GR Corolla is only 2 grand less.
Great review as always! Looks super fun, but at $53,990 CAD for Corolla??? No way that makes sense.
Right? I was also very shocked to see that sticker price. I mean... it's still a corolla, what gave toyota the confidence to sell it for the same price as an M2?
@@B75-u7c no kidding eh? I feel like a peasant at these price levels.
@@thomasgarbaty7374 Tell me about it! And then there's also these die-hard toyota fans that point fingers at the inflation rate, lmao.
Agreed. This is another example where Canadian pricing makes no sense. I guess the Golf R pricing here is ‘cheaper’ than the US.
Get the $45,000 version if the $54,000 is too much?
Wow...This brings back memories of the Corolla GT-S back in the late 80's early 90's. I missed my GT-S.
It sounds like a Triumph motorcycle inline triple engine, which I love!
Every so often I pay attention to see if the doors close on time, still nailing it 👍
It has been hyped up at the end of the day it’s Corolla which doesn’t even have an automatic version to compete with Volkswagen. That being said dealers will be charging ridiculous amount for what’s actually just a basic hatchback.
My two favorite car reviewers. Mighty Duct Tape and The Hammer
@TheStraightPipes The GR must be a blast! Re: Mighty DucTape, your face at 8:59ish while The Hammer lays on the throttle through Cliché Corner!
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Great to see a review, but after calling my local Toyota in Ontario they said only 10 units coming to the whole province and the line is so long already there's no point in even talking about placing an order... Thanks Toyota...
Yuri looked SO nervous in the passenger seat doing cliche corner. 🤣
Glad to see that the GR Corolla drives as well and as aggressively as it looks!! Toyota is BACK!
Everyone: Golf R only 4 cilindar, garbage..
Toyota 3 cilindar, wow perfect car 😂🤣😂🤣
no body said the Golf R is rubbish for being a 4 cyl? isn't a 4 cyl normal for this class? people do hate the GR Corolla for being a 3 cyl on this video though.
It’s a shame Toyota is purposely limiting production to increase exclusively because they absolutely fucking nailed-it. It’s going to be so difficult to find one, especially the Circuit. I can’t wait to see the dealer mark-ups.
Canada and USA bad luck
We get both GR Yaris and GR Corolla in Australia
GR Corolla was the first car to tempt me to sell my Focus RS.
If we got the GR Yaris here in the states I probably would.
Looks great. Markup on this car is going to be insane from dealers.
Tsp.truecar.com will help navigate that
Check Kijiji for someone in Toronto already listing one for $95k CAD
That's crazy from a 3 cylinder. My motorcycle is a 2.5L 3 cylinder and only puts down 171 hp/163 lb-ft of twerks to the wheels.
Y'all, they get the GR Yaris in Mexico, and Mexico is part of North America. Every video has said this same incorrect thing, and I had to chime in.
The triple exhaust is perfect and justified! One per cylinder!
Not Yuri looking genuinely terrified when Jakub fully sent Cliché
Great video, the gr four is homage for the celica gt four for the awd
It’s funny. You can tell these guys honestly LOVE driving this thing. I didn’t even see the same smilies on the Camaro SS (and thats a V8 designed for track days). I’m genuinely surprised.
Depends on which manufacturer supports them, and who does not 🤣
This car pretty much fills the void that Subaru left after they discontinued their WRX STI.
The photos they've published are with a Rally driver behind the wheel. You can't drift this thing like a RWD car, you need to use lift-off oversteer and other rally trickery. Don't forget, underneath this is similar to the GR Yaris, which only came into existence so Toyota could get it into Rally.
Own a GR Yaris Circuit Pack 🇬🇧, absolutely love it, but wish we got the GR Corolla here! The Yaris has been received extremely well in Europe and it can hold its own against much more expensive machinery on track, wet and dry.
Ello mate
@@TheStraightPipes Alright lads! Love seeing the same smile I have with my GR Jakub!
With the way the AWD system works, if you leave it in track mode (50/50 distribution) and give the clutch a kick it'll spin for days.
You also have to hold the TCS button for a few secs to fully turn it off otherwise it still has a small amount of interference.
Yuri was in real terror while Jacob was enjoying the hell out flooring into cliche!!
Really nice review guys, Love the 3 cylinder engine. They make a great sound if nicely tuned, Triumph Motorcycles has used them for years, Yamaha also. They have a better torque band usually, and nice grunty sound.
Car looks sweet too. LSD's front and rear.. WOW..
Toyota surprised me on this one.
Chances of getting this for MSRP is about -10%. Dealer owners drive them for 500km and then mark them up 15-20k as "used"
They do sell the Yaris GR in North America, in Mexico. For about 40K USD, but this i think wont be coming here.
Looks awesome. However, I too, would take a Focus RS over it, but either would be a blast.
Mexico is also part of North America, and here we have the GR yaris
Am I the only one who dislikes the design of the Corolla sedan but loves the Corolla hatch?
yall really never think about using the handbrake to drift it? because that is how they do it on the ads
I still think the GR86 has a better bang for buck. Torsen LSD even on the base model, FR layout and cheaper than the base model GRC.
Yuri, try a 2018 Focus RS, they revised the dampers and the ride is great in normal mode. You can drive mine if you want
The Focus RS is fantastic but the ride in any year is horrendous. Way too stiff and bouncy which is both slow and uncomfortable. Do yourself a favor and buy some quality monotube coilovers. It will completely transform your car. Thank me later.
Man when Toyota puts their minds to it, it really shows.
I like it. But limited production AND dealer markups 🤮🤮
The golf r/ type r have much more hatch room from what it looks like..
One of you guys in this vs DP in the Elantra N! Would be legit!!
DP wins lol
As much as I’d like a circuit edition, dealers here will probably mark it up by at least 10k - 15k. I’ll probably end up with the core in a few years 😅
I’ve been waiting for you guys to get your hands in this ! This car lives up to the hype !
If only they offered it with an automatic... manuals are a pain in traffic and I've done my fair of it growing up in Madrid. You can get the GR Yaris to make around 320hp with a very cheap tune
Same here, will stick with my Mk8R, no DCT/DSG is a deal breaker for me sadly
But manual is more fun
Get a normal corolla hatch then lmao. This is an enthusiasts car
@@BDA0531 thats underpowered and just because its an enthusiast car that doesn't mean it needs to be a manual
@@IReapZz95 oh well too bad for u then. Im glad cars like this, the SI, and the Type R are manual exclusive cars. There should be more manual exclusive options for sports cars if im being honest
Yes!!! So happy when I saw this video! Thanks again Yuri for talking on IG! I'm not mad you trolled me 😆
With the Stache
When Jakub drive through cliche corner you can see Yuri’s face legitimately afraid for hes life😂
Lsd's will be standard on Core models in Canada! Woot woot!
As nice as this car is I’d get an Elantra N over this mainly because the Elantra n won’t be marked up to $60k
Aren't Kia's and Hyundai's being broken into and started with only a USB? Don't think an Elantra would be a smart choice for me at least.
@@miguel9943 never heard of that
@@miguel9943 only cars that use a key to start can be stolen that way. The Elantra N has a start/ stop button. No keys
This GR corolla is a hot hatchback killer!
I love it!
Another fantastic Canadian auto review channel.... Great video. SUBSCRIBED!
Thank you
I actually think the focus RS looks better, but would take this over that.
"...and GR going for a drive!" was all I needed to automatically like this upload 💯💯💯
I'm here for any dad jokes! No, seriously this channel is the best.
As a GR Yaris and a Focus RS owner I would love to add the Morizo edition to the garage. But I'm in Europe so I won't hah
in europe we wont be missing the GR corolla, that is made for the US market in mind. The European GR Yaris is the same as the JDM one except steering wheel on different side. Yaris is better car then corolla, yaris is lighter and much more fun. :)
Slap on a $20k markup on each. I can't fathom what the car market has become. As expensive as it sounds with the mark up, it burns knowing it'll only go up in price in the next few decades. Pain. Pain. Pain. 😩
Loving this car, it’s been a long time coming and I think they did , but $53k ???? My 2012 STi Sport Tech was $10K LESS.
Also…. BYPASS VALVE. It is not a blowoff valve, it doesn’t vent to atmosphere at all.
Grr-olla
No need to show me the door, I know my way out.
If I ever pick one of these up, that will be my vanity plate for sure.
Gtfo of here!
You can get the LSDs on the Core, you just have to select the Performance Pack.
Yes, the GR Corolla is without a doubt a technological and engineering feat. Two things make RIP for any of the competition a little premature. First price. Try to find one at MSRP. Heck, how about without markups over MSRP! Second, these cars are going to be sold to people who are into performance, and no one wants one just as fast as the one next to them. WIth 300 hp already coming out of 1.6L there is little headroom for anything more. Most 2.0L Audi/VW engines max out at 400 hp and this is already there. The smaller the engine, the more heat is has to dissipate to put out the same power as a larger engine just chugging along. Too much heat = failure.
Great car, but hardly the end of the competition. RIP will come when the manufacturers decide CUVs, hybrids and EVs are the only way to make their CAFE requirements. Ford already did that in the US with the Focus RS, and VW no longer sells a regular Golf in the US. Veloster is gone, and replaced with the larger Elantra.
Bought a 2017 RS in nitrous blue last month. Yuri, thank you for the validation at the end of the video. 🙃
I realize this is a different price point, but how do you think this compares to a GLA45 AMG? I realize it’s a different price point. I’m in a built mk7 Golf R now which I do love, but it’s time for either a lot of expensive work on it or an upgrade.
A 3 cylinder performance car. Never thought I'd see the day.
I was thinking this was my next, but now that the Supra has a manual I’m TORN
Type r
@@tusktooth4122 hell nah dude, i mean i fw the type r but you would make a huge mistake of taking an fwd car over a awd car
@@slb8781 really just depends what you want, drivetrain isn't all that matters.
Supra
Well do you want a toyota or a bmw?
Bring back the box test! 🙏🏽
Technically not the first GR hatchback in North America since Mexico gets the GR Yaris. Great review as always though!
The fact that you and Donut Media posted a video about this car at the same time is nuts
Manufacturers will usually give media a date/time at which they are allowed to release the review on a new product
That back end looks like it was borrowed from a Mazda 3 Hatch. Other than that, I think it looks pretty nice. I had a couple corollas as my first couple cars. I would have loved this as my first car now.
Sounds surprisingly good. Like a mini online 6
I am drooling over this car
Fuck I wish I wasn’t poor
SAME HERE
im still driving my 28yr old probe gt, since 94 ...I still watch these reviews and envy those who can afford to blow so much on cars...lucky guys!
What a beautiful car man, i like review detailed to the max.
When you tried to do the skids, did you change the distribution to rear wheels only and crank the hand brake?!?!?!
No hand brake that's cheating
Imagine if they put that engine in the GR 86
they did put it in some gr86s for racing
Y’all and Donut? I’m here for it🙏🏼
I have been waiting for this. Can't wait to get this one.
I really wonder if Yuri put the diff into 30:70 mode or 50:50 mode for the drift test
mainly because on the drone shots it seems like it still understeers
Yeah, that definately wasn't 30:70...
All 3 modes
60:40 and 50 :50 are preferable for drifting according to Engineering Explained
th-cam.com/video/EjYrHQ83mbM/w-d-xo.html
@@TheStraightPipes is it posiible because its pre production car? there is tons of videos of gr yaris going sideways afterall.
Throttle House couldn’t drift it either, only slide with the eBrake.
my Dude Yuri holding on for dear life!!! you guys are great another great review!!! thank you!!!