I'm dying for the time when these corpus of knowledge will be included in our educational curriculum. How long will we be robbed under the garb of secularism.
Only practical solution for now is for parents to home-school their children and get them to read our Itihasas, Smritis and Shrutis and ask probing questions when they are still young and supple in mind. But for that parents themselves must first take some initiative to educate themselves on our texts and history. There is no use relying on governments (either the present one or future ones) to take any good initiatives, such as reforming our British-engineered (Macaulay) education. Each ruling govt goes into self-preservation mode and vote-bank appeasement mode and therefore cares very little about matters as important as education reform. Even if this present govt tries to bring meaningful changes to the education curriculum it will face a volley of resistance from our pseudo-secular, pseudo-liberal and leftist mob (which has infiltrated our academia and media). It may take many years (slow gradual shift) before we see meaningful changes to education. If the next generation of our children grow up in our current broken education system they will turn into neo-marxists and nihilists (or worse) by the time they reach adulthood. I am speaking as a former deracinated Hindu who experienced all that and somehow grew out of it through God's grace and self-education. I wish I had learnt Sanskrit when I was young but alas it wasn't meant to be.
2:30 Itihas Meaning 5:30 Parvas in Mahabharata vs Kanda in Ramayana 7:40 1240 Mahabharata Sanskrit Versions 11:20 What about Childhood Of Shri Krishna? Harivamsha is described as sequel/ appendix to the Mahabharata 13:30 Why yet another translation? 15:03 Did after Composing Mahabharata, Shri Vyas composed Puranas 16:45 Sanskrit Poetry and Rhyming 17:42 Chhand 1300 hundred different metres in Sanskrit Poetry 25:38 Sanskrit 37:25 🤯 40:27 Manusmriti 45:10 47:40 Puranas 52:40 Draupadi 59:50 Learning Sanskrit
If anything, watch his response to the question about Draupadi and polyandry. It is seldom, and indeed a rare gift, when someone can answer a question and simultaneously shut up someone and open their mind at the same time. Kudos!
Bibek Debroy ji thank you so much for clarifiying so many of my doubts with so much of clarity. Every talk of yours is revealing and enlightening us about so many unknown facts. Keep sharing with us all that you are willing to give us so we too can come out of the clouds of agyan. Many a Thanks.
To appreciate and acknowledge the rich heritage of Sanatana Dharma, we have to read both our Ithihasas in the original sanskritam and luckily for us they are still available !❤🙏🙏
Reading translation is futile because it can never convey the 'rasa' 100%. For an Indian to get a grasp of Sanskrit takes much less effort because Indians live the Sanskriti. When I hear an Indian saying that it is difficult to learn Sanskrit, it sounds like a fish saying it is difficult to learn swimming or a bird saying it is difficult to learn flying.
Original and deep research is gift The energy required to delve deep is life time endeavour The fact we are made to look a fresh from a dedicated thinker on essential ideas presumed without original referencing is a boon Pranams Sir
“I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, - astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc... It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganges to learn geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long established in Europe” - French philosopher Voltaire
It is unfortunate that our parents took to educate us in convent schools,where we were not taught of our own culture or history and greatness.Will the good old days of our education system comes back again to our next generation and we know our great culture and civilisation which we lost for so many years.😢
No wonder students learnt Sanskrit grammar till 25 yrs in gurukul. Sanskrit is very complex, dualistic and tough language to learn . Assimilation and proper perception of Sanskrit is challenging. Proud to be born in India were sanskrit was spoken by our Bhagwan and dieties.
lol Use of Sankrit was ubiquitous in Ancient Hindu society. If you grew up in Sanskrit-speaking household, it'd be your go-to language to conduct all manner of affairs, religious and non-religious.
Sanskrit is NOT a tough language to learn. It is just like any other language. If you have not been exposed to it for a while, you will find it difficult. By saying and thinking that Sanskrit is difficult, you are distancing yourself from it subconsciously. For any Indian who speaks at least one Indian language, Sanskrit is 50% easier to learn than English, which is completely foreign. The problem is that English is so pervasive in India, it is taught to kids since LKG and the medium of education is English for more than 16 years. If Sanskrit had been the medium of education, then you would be able to use it just like you use English today.
I love that Kings had a limited role - so we were kind of Libertarians - so cool! Small government was our preferred mode - no wonder that made us super wealthy as a nation!!
India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition -Mark Twain.
Thank you so much Sir. Truly, a national treasure of information. I have purchased your translation of Bhagawad Purana and Markandeya Purana. I look forward to readimg them. There is of course no easy way to talk about the corpus of Ithihas and Puranas in one hour, but I was hoping you would talk about how to understand and how not to understand Puranas..for example, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva---were they real or just concepts? Hope you will give more such talks
Vishnu Purana is the principle Purana, which is the scripture that claims mortal Krishna 9500 bc, who preached the Sanatan religion, was a natural philosopher, like Socrates. He was very observant and discovered that there is order within cosmic chaos. He found the secret of divine design and formulated his theory that 'Vishnu is the cause of the evolution of the world' and is 'the conjoined essence and object of meditative wisdom and active virtue (karma). The Yadava prospered and multiplied under Krishna and spread all over India, explaining linguistic and religious uniformity. Bengal represents the original Gujrati prakrit.
I think thats up to you to decide, if its metaphorical or literal :) He's just providing the literary goods in the best scholarly format with little to no interpretations of his own
ITIHASA can be written as ITIHAAS and PURANA can be PURAANso that first of all decolonization of Indian mind set is very important. Today internationally inferior or so called Indian Elites call योग (yog) as Yoga they even do not have the ability to take the pure name of any heritage of their own country. 🙏
Actually, the pure words in Sanskrit are ITIHAASA and PURAANA. The cutting off the end vowel in Hindi is actually the influence of Arabic and Persian. So if you want to decolonize completely, stop saying ITIHAAS, PURAAN and YOG, and start saying ITIHAASA, PURAANA and YOGA. In proper Sanskrit, these words are actually ITIHAASAH, PURAANAM and YOGAH.
I could listen to him for hours. Why don’t we set up a corpus for translating these texts? We could finish the work in a few hundred years or develop AI to translate them
Few ambiguities: 1.why every historian dates back Ramayan to 500 BCE to 100 BCE,ime they claim valmiki has written it in this time,whereas they claim Mahabharat as 900 BCE,this contradicts the fact that Ramayan happened before Mahabharat. 2.According to historians Vedas were created composed in around 1700 BCE ,Mahabharat in 900 BCE and Ramayan in 500 BCE..it's seems illogocal. I.e vedic era. Out of above facts given by scholars everything can be digested but the fact that Ramayan was composed after Mahabharat can't be digested ,and living of Valmiki in pre-mauryan era can't be digested.
Hello sir i have one question that there is a incident in mahabharat when yudhishthir was depressed saint told him story about ramayan in short right then one more proof is that life in ramayan is seems to be less developed then the mahabharat like in ramayan there is no war strategy no mention of dangerous weapon while in mahabharat there are many strategy discussed
And many appearance of ramayan character in mahabharat so its simple ramayan happened before mahabharat But it can also be a possibility that we mahabharat and ramayan are smriti (remember) so mahabharat is composed on manuscripts before ramayan but ramayan happened actually before mahabharat
I want to ask the organisers and especially Mr. Debroy to shed some lights on whether Ramayana,Mahabharata, puranas were written by one single person or many people
If you want to understand how the Mahabharat was composed you should read the works of Alfred Hitelbeitel. There He shows how the Mahabharat was composed in only a period of 2-3 generations maximum and not 1000 years as debroy said. If you want I can give you the text via gmail.
@@shubhamsrivastava8719 Incorrect. Not only Hitelbeitel but Vishwa Adluri and Andre Coutre has said the same. Regarding the Mahabharat composition time it had been composed far earlier sometimes between 6000BC-5500BC in roughly the same form we see today.
He he Amartya Sen told. It seems that he was not aware of Krittibas Ojha's Ramayana or Michael Madhusudan Dutta's Meghnadbadh Kavya plus Markandeya Purana.
@@anandrmnn It's Amartya Sen. Supporting Mamata Banerjee's jihad against 'Jai Sri Ram', Amartya Sen said Bengal has no relation with Ram. That's why Bibek Debroy here mocked him saying if the economist knows the meaning of 'Raghunanadan' (medieval Bengali scholar named after Ram)
Puranas have been previously translated in various Indian languages as well as in English by Gita Press, Chaukhamba Sanskrit Pratishthan and few others.
@@1234q0987 I don't think you understand what is an unabridged translation. All the Gita Press ones are abridged which holds no scholarly value to be honest.
@@sadenb Sorry, in the comment you have not said about the unabridged translation. I know what is unabridged edition. I think, below is an example of unabridged translation.
@@rajasphadke3995 Those were Krauncha in Sanskrit, Koonj in Hindi. According to Wikipedia it is Demoiselle crane. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoiselle_crane
@@rajasphadke3995 So both can't be right. Sanskrit Krauncha is called koonj in Hindi and konch in Bengali and Sanskrit Sarasa is called saras which is sarus crane in English. So sarus crane can't be krauncha.
Inside an unused well in the Indian Jungle , there were two lame frogs. They thought that the dark well and the small round blue sky they saw on top was the cosmos. Till one day during unusually heavy rains, the water level of this well came up and both jumped out on to terra firma. Excited they hopped along till they saw two child animals playing football. Immediately one of the frogs cried that the ball was manufactured by his great grandfather and established ownership over it. The hopped along and wherever they went they gave cock and bull croaking stories of how their ancestors literally invented, discovered , built and made everything in the jungle. They were so shrewd and slimy in their approach that very soon even the King lion was made to believe that the deep jungle belonged to these frogs, and lived in psychological subjugation. Blah Blah -- Every fruit tree was planted by our ancestors, every lake was dug by our ancestors ---- Blah Blah - These two frogs are the equivalent of German Friedrich Max Muller, and Englishman Thomas Babington Macaulay. Macaulay under instructions from the Vatican and told Max Muller how to subvert and hijack world history. In one single master stoke he gave the credit of every ancient Indian vedic work in language, Science, Mathematics , Astronomy etc.to the blonde blue eyed Christian white man. The white master race had NOT invented or discovered anything till they came to India, other than what they grabbed from the Arabs which also arab learn from India.As soon the immoral white invader came to India they learnt Sanskrit, stole our intellectual rights patented it in their names and destroyed the originals ( or kept it back after injecting POISON into the originals ). Why should a Master learn the language of a slave ? Bible considers that the cosmos is a few thousand years old. Western historians have been trying to date Rig Veda to 1500 BC ( instead of 5000 BC ) because as per Bible the creation happened in 4004 BC at 9 AM on 23rd October. *Naturally you cannot have a book written before the creation of cosmos , right ?* So they burn all library of world , rewrite world history and prove that before 4004 bc there is nothing happned call it mythology . Bishop Ussher had declared it as the date of creation. The Holy Bible says that the human race began with Adam and Eve. (All nonsense ) Jesus Was never Exist Jesus is fictional character Plz see this video.... th-cam.com/video/QTmZlckcwMY/w-d-xo.html And Vatican has been pressurising all and sundry to disprove Vedic literature that stated in 5000 BC in writing, that the cosmos is 15 billion years old and that the mind and consciousness has to be factored in. Well the advent of quantum physics has proved Bible and Max Mueller wrong. Fake history is weapon of white invaders even they hijack all world history to hide there crime over humanity and with fraud history humans blame over each other and quarrel . Non violent and vegetarian Indian has never attacked any other country till now-- and as a result invaders murdered 90 million Hindus. ,Burn priceless Library and distort Vedic civilization These vulgar white invaders robbed us blind in 250 years , converting India from the richest on the planet to the poorest. They stole our knowledge and patented it in their names. WHY DID THEY LEARN OUR LANGUAGE SANSKRIT WHY DID THEY STEAL PART 2 ( BRAHMANAS ) AND PART 3 ( ARANYAKAS ) OF OUR VEDAS ? ( THESE TWO SECTIONS CONTAINED BASIS OF SCIENCE AND MATH ) Now they want to make fun of our poverty and ignorance? Not any more ! These immoral people never expected an Internet age , right ? They thought they could control the media, the historians and peer reviewed magazines and control everything , right? Wrong ! For more Click link below ..... ajitvadakayil.blogspot.com/2011/01/mother-of-all-civilisations-saraswati.html?m=1
Under 4 Varna, shudra could not be the lower untouchables in case they were highly taxed. Manu Smriti explained by you therefore seems wayward, as bending leftist
Very inspiring but then I was filled with thoughts as how he could refer to Ramayana as a later version just because of one Gita shloka? It could have been vice versa? It's not a justification. In the Ramayana referred to within Mahabharat is it not referring to Valmiki Rishi and crediting him as the adi Kavi?! When the Ramayana narrated to Yudhisthira?! People should follow Dr. Ranganji for authenticity as he has been a specialist on this topic
महोदय आपका भाष्य बहूत अच्छा था। पर में शब्द और व्यकरण के बारे में कुछ कहने की चेष्टा करता हूँ। ये सब कवि थे पर इसका ज्यादा तर भाग लोक में भी जाता है। में मानता हूँ बीना व्यकरण के शब्द का मतलब लगाना मुश्किल है। इसीलिए पुराण में लोक दिए है। एक उदाहरण मैं कहता हूँ एप्पल तो bazzar लोक कहेंगे कैसे किलो? पर विज्ञान लोक में कहेंगे मोबाइल। कॉम्प्यूटर लोक में कहेंगे mac। इसका अर्थ है ये शब्द कोनसे लोक में या किस लिए पढ़ा जा रहा है। उसीपर उस शब्द का अर्थ निर्भर करेगा। कुछ गलत हो तो क्षमा करें। धन्यवाद।
The Budhist version of the Ramayana is just part of propaganda literature. Rama praying to the Budha is artistically and schematically unconvincing. The Budha represents only one part of human life , that is moksha Rama is an aviator whose Dharma is kshatriya Dharma.
These books and manuscripts are stolen from Indian libraries and are reappearing in American museums and colleges. #BRINGBACKINDIANGLORY #INDICRENAISSANCE #SUPPORTDHARMA #DHARMAKNOWLEDGEISWEALTH
I have not listened to the talks completely, just listened a part. I think, please forgive my language, that Mr. Roy must research a more. It appears that the manner in which he is talking about the upper garment of Ma Sita, he wants to convince it as something like blouse. But that is absolutely incorrect. The actual shlok of VR says: तेषां मध्ये विशालाक्षी कौशेयं कनकप्रभम्। उत्तरीयं वरारोहा शुभान्याभरणानि च।।3.54.2।। The word **उत्तरीयं** uttariyan is translated as "an upper garment worn by either sex and thrown loosely *OVER THE SHOULDERS*". It is something like dupatta. Therefore, read the Sanskrit texts, do not depend on others.
As usual this guy is ignorant of value of the Puranas, which are not only history, but also the history of the theology of Sanatan religion. Vishnu Purana is the principle Purana and records who the Kurus replaced Sanatan with Semitic Hinduism and Vishnu with Semitic god Rama (Ramses) by manipulating Ramayan and Mahabharata, after destroying the Yadava tribe of Krishna. Indian people don't care to remember their glorious past.
@Dr. Er. Pegasus The Veda 4000-1900 bc endorse the theology of Vishnu purana, the three steps of Vishnu enshrined in the Puranas. I think I know why modern Indians are scared of the Puranas, as they expose the 'evil Kurus. (coined in Vishnu Purana), expressed by your fear of the term ;semitic'. The Indians bear the fate of subservience.
With the utmost respect, may i please suggest that such intellectual's qork be preaented by another orator at least? It is extremely jarring to try and stay with the narration (focused) with the stiffest upper-lip vrirish accent and Bengali accent and then no accent that comes and goes. Please do listen to the lecture again, without bias and you woyld see ky point...with such gora saab accent, it just sounds like another white man telling us what, we, our culture and our historical texts are....consider your visually impaired followers. Thanks ans regards Namaste Bharat mata ki jai
The Dr. did not do justice to his speech by over dramatising his tone, and shouting into the mike. An unnecessary and quite irritating to hear a one hour lecture. Can't we speak normal on itihaasa..? this overdramatisatoon seems to be very common amongst Indian s
Maybe that's his character, i too had a problem for 5-10 mins but then there are more important things he's speaking about. And what nonsense are you talking about shouting in the mike..... just lower the volume na.
His speaking style is extremely irritating. The over-dramatic raaaaaiiiiisssiiiingg and loooweeerrriningg is really getting on my nerves, and his message is being lost.
SO much knowledge i missed. I wish i was not focused on branded clothing and gadgets while growing up.
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Hindu scriptures checkout this man
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jab jaage tab hua savera. Make efforts now to regain what is rightfully yours. I am doing the same.
@@atul1024 lakhani is not really great..makes many simplistic explanations that aren't exactly correct..
Senthil Kumar
Upto you
You spoke my feelings
I'm dying for the time when these corpus of knowledge will be included in our educational curriculum. How long will we be robbed under the garb of secularism.
Only practical solution for now is for parents to home-school their children and get them to read our Itihasas, Smritis and Shrutis and ask probing questions when they are still young and supple in mind. But for that parents themselves must first take some initiative to educate themselves on our texts and history. There is no use relying on governments (either the present one or future ones) to take any good initiatives, such as reforming our British-engineered (Macaulay) education. Each ruling govt goes into self-preservation mode and vote-bank appeasement mode and therefore cares very little about matters as important as education reform. Even if this present govt tries to bring meaningful changes to the education curriculum it will face a volley of resistance from our pseudo-secular, pseudo-liberal and leftist mob (which has infiltrated our academia and media). It may take many years (slow gradual shift) before we see meaningful changes to education.
If the next generation of our children grow up in our current broken education system they will turn into neo-marxists and nihilists (or worse) by the time they reach adulthood. I am speaking as a former deracinated Hindu who experienced all that and somehow grew out of it through God's grace and self-education. I wish I had learnt Sanskrit when I was young but alas it wasn't meant to be.
Sadhguru is already making the change by offering inner engineering education for kids
2:30 Itihas Meaning
5:30 Parvas in Mahabharata vs Kanda in Ramayana
7:40 1240 Mahabharata Sanskrit Versions
11:20 What about Childhood Of Shri Krishna?
Harivamsha is described as sequel/ appendix to the Mahabharata
13:30 Why yet another translation?
15:03 Did after Composing Mahabharata, Shri Vyas composed Puranas
16:45 Sanskrit Poetry and Rhyming
17:42 Chhand
1300 hundred different metres in Sanskrit Poetry
25:38 Sanskrit
37:25 🤯
40:27 Manusmriti
45:10
47:40 Puranas
52:40 Draupadi
59:50 Learning Sanskrit
Thank you. This is saving my time when trying to repeat..
Thanxalot...May God bless you
If anything, watch his response to the question about Draupadi and polyandry. It is seldom, and indeed a rare gift, when someone can answer a question and simultaneously shut up someone and open their mind at the same time. Kudos!
Oustanding! Ordered both his translations of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana. Cant wait to read them. Learning Sanskrit is the next step
What a scholarly discourse! It is a treat to hear this scholar extraordinary.
You made me your Fan Sir by just one Speech that too within 20 mins 👍 Truly admire your Research and Understanding of the Mahakavyas and Puranas
Bibek Debroy ji thank you so much for clarifiying so many of my doubts with so much of clarity. Every talk of yours is revealing and enlightening us about so many unknown facts. Keep sharing with us all that you are willing to give us so we too can come out of the clouds of agyan. Many a Thanks.
Puranas contain multiple layers of meanings ..for different levels of evolution
Wow.. amazing knowledge and intellect. So much to read and learn..
To appreciate and acknowledge the rich heritage of Sanatana Dharma, we have to read both our Ithihasas in the original sanskritam and luckily for us they are still available !❤🙏🙏
Reading translation is futile because it can never convey the 'rasa' 100%. For an Indian to get a grasp of Sanskrit takes much less effort because Indians live the Sanskriti. When I hear an Indian saying that it is difficult to learn Sanskrit, it sounds like a fish saying it is difficult to learn swimming or a bird saying it is difficult to learn flying.
so you can fluently read vedic sanskrit and the sanskrit in other literature?
Never thought of it that way. I think that will definitely help changing the mind set towards learning of Sanskrit.
I think Hindi is very close to getting the rasa from sanskrit.
We can trust translation/marma by one of our owns not some deranged foreigner.
@@paharipant2 😂😂 Hindi is the most shit language with all urdu words embedded 🤮
Original and deep research is gift
The energy required to delve deep is life time endeavour
The fact we are made to look a fresh from a dedicated thinker on essential ideas presumed without original referencing is a boon
Pranams Sir
Simply brilliant. Thank you, Sir.
“I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, - astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc... It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganges to learn geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long established in Europe” - French philosopher Voltaire
Great talk! Brilliant exposure to various samskrit texts with "itihas". Good introduction to "puranas". Learned speaker deserves applaud.
Splendid.... thanks for the video
It is unfortunate that our parents took to educate us in convent schools,where we were not taught of our own culture or history and greatness.Will the good old days of our education system comes back again to our next generation and we know our great culture and civilisation which we lost for so many years.😢
No wonder students learnt Sanskrit grammar till 25 yrs in gurukul. Sanskrit is very complex, dualistic and tough language to learn . Assimilation and proper perception of Sanskrit is challenging. Proud to be born in India were sanskrit was spoken by our Bhagwan and dieties.
lol Use of Sankrit was ubiquitous in Ancient Hindu society. If you grew up in Sanskrit-speaking household, it'd be your go-to language to conduct all manner of affairs, religious and non-religious.
Sanskrit is NOT a tough language to learn. It is just like any other language. If you have not been exposed to it for a while, you will find it difficult. By saying and thinking that Sanskrit is difficult, you are distancing yourself from it subconsciously. For any Indian who speaks at least one Indian language, Sanskrit is 50% easier to learn than English, which is completely foreign. The problem is that English is so pervasive in India, it is taught to kids since LKG and the medium of education is English for more than 16 years. If Sanskrit had been the medium of education, then you would be able to use it just like you use English today.
Sorry, but Sanskrit is neither tough nor complex or dualistic as you said. Try learning it and am sure you will end up condracting yourself on this.
Thank you organisers for this wonderful talk.
ॐ शांति
हमने एक विद्वान को खो दिया है
Brilliant and Outstanding!!!
Masterclass indeed!!
Excellent talk...
Truly truly great full to your work from heart sir thank you 🙏💙
May the devatas give you dirghayu 🙏
What a scholarship Dr Bibek Debroy exhibits !!
I love that Kings had a limited role - so we were kind of Libertarians - so cool! Small government was our preferred mode - no wonder that made us super wealthy as a nation!!
India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother
of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition
-Mark Twain.
Deep scholarship indeed
Ocen of knowledge.
Absolutely stunning info
इसका हिंदी अर्थ उपलब्ध होना चाहिए।
Thank you so much Sir. Truly, a national treasure of information. I have purchased your translation of Bhagawad Purana and Markandeya Purana. I look forward to readimg them. There is of course no easy way to talk about the corpus of Ithihas and Puranas in one hour, but I was hoping you would talk about how to understand and how not to understand Puranas..for example, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva---were they real or just concepts? Hope you will give more such talks
Vishnu Purana is the principle Purana, which is the scripture that claims mortal Krishna 9500 bc, who preached the Sanatan religion, was a natural philosopher, like Socrates. He was very observant and discovered that there is order within cosmic chaos. He found the secret of divine design and formulated his theory that 'Vishnu is the cause of the evolution of the world' and is 'the conjoined essence and object of meditative wisdom and active virtue (karma). The Yadava prospered and multiplied under Krishna and spread all over India, explaining linguistic and religious uniformity. Bengal represents the original Gujrati prakrit.
I think thats up to you to decide, if its metaphorical or literal :) He's just providing the literary goods in the best scholarly format with little to no interpretations of his own
ITIHASA can be written as ITIHAAS and PURANA can be PURAANso that first of all decolonization of Indian mind set is very important. Today internationally inferior or so called Indian Elites call योग (yog) as Yoga they even do not have the ability to take the pure name of any heritage of their own country. 🙏
Actually, the pure words in Sanskrit are ITIHAASA and PURAANA. The cutting off the end vowel in Hindi is actually the influence of Arabic and Persian. So if you want to decolonize completely, stop saying ITIHAAS, PURAAN and YOG, and start saying ITIHAASA, PURAANA and YOGA. In proper Sanskrit, these words are actually ITIHAASAH, PURAANAM and YOGAH.
सत्या
Itna hi gyani h to purana translate krde
Ignorance is bliss!
You must read Sanskrit and not just hindi. Lol
Nice.
27:50 meaning of Sanskrit words ..
Ram krishna mission and these bengalis are the real bengalis
Yes, not the ones in Bangladesh
yes. no shortage of followers of marx baba though, even though they have destroyed the state
আপনার ঋদ্ধ আলোচনা আমাকে শ্রী অরবিন্দ বুঝতে আরো সাহায্য করবে।নমস্কার।
I could listen to him for hours. Why don’t we set up a corpus for translating these texts? We could finish the work in a few hundred years or develop AI to translate them
Excellent !👍👌
Few ambiguities:
1.why every historian dates back Ramayan to 500 BCE to 100 BCE,ime they claim valmiki has written it in this time,whereas they claim Mahabharat as 900 BCE,this contradicts the fact that Ramayan happened before Mahabharat.
2.According to historians Vedas were created composed in around 1700 BCE ,Mahabharat in 900 BCE and Ramayan in 500 BCE..it's seems illogocal.
I.e vedic era.
Out of above facts given by scholars everything can be digested but the fact that Ramayan was composed after Mahabharat can't be digested ,and living of Valmiki in pre-mauryan era can't be digested.
Hello sir i have one question that there is a incident in mahabharat when yudhishthir was depressed saint told him story about ramayan in short right then one more proof is that life in ramayan is seems to be less developed then the mahabharat like in ramayan there is no war strategy no mention of dangerous weapon while in mahabharat there are many strategy discussed
And many appearance of ramayan character in mahabharat so its simple ramayan happened before mahabharat
But it can also be a possibility that we mahabharat and ramayan are smriti (remember) so mahabharat is composed on manuscripts before ramayan but ramayan happened actually before mahabharat
I will be buying all of his books and read. I wish I didn't spend time watching Kyunki Saans Bhi kabhi bahu thi and bollywoods...
Fantastic
Thank you lot of knowledge 😊
U write ur name as bibek n not vivek ..👌👏👍.. impressive sir..
Polyandry still exists in Himalayan regions. Infact, It was a very common practice in bulk of Hill states, ofcourse it is very limited now.
Started learning Sanskrit just to read these texts
I want to ask the organisers and especially Mr. Debroy to shed some lights on whether Ramayana,Mahabharata, puranas were written by one single person or many people
he said in the video that Mahabharatha was written 2000 years ago in a span of 1000 years.
although I personally disagree.
@May ur how come?
If you want to understand how the Mahabharat was composed you should read the works of Alfred Hitelbeitel. There He shows how the Mahabharat was composed in only a period of 2-3 generations maximum and not 1000 years as debroy said. If you want I can give you the text via gmail.
@@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 That's his opinion.Ramayan and Mahabharat was compiled in Gupta period.
@@shubhamsrivastava8719
Incorrect. Not only Hitelbeitel but Vishwa Adluri and Andre Coutre has said the same. Regarding the Mahabharat composition time it had been composed far earlier sometimes between 6000BC-5500BC in roughly the same form we see today.
Jai shri Ram
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can someone tell me who is "that particular economist" referred to in the last question
He he Amartya Sen told. It seems that he was not aware of Krittibas Ojha's Ramayana or Michael Madhusudan Dutta's Meghnadbadh Kavya plus Markandeya Purana.
Haha Haha Did he really deny knowing Krittibas Ramayan? 🤣
@@choudhurysaheb8326 Nope. It was Sanjiv Sanyal. That video is also on youtube.
It was Sanjiv Sanyal. That video is also on youtube.
@@anandrmnn It's Amartya Sen. Supporting Mamata Banerjee's jihad against 'Jai Sri Ram', Amartya Sen said Bengal has no relation with Ram. That's why Bibek Debroy here mocked him saying if the economist knows the meaning of 'Raghunanadan' (medieval Bengali scholar named after Ram)
He is doing national service by doing this. Now he is doing Puranas which have never been ttanslated.
Puranas have been previously translated in various Indian languages as well as in English by Gita Press, Chaukhamba Sanskrit Pratishthan and few others.
@@1234q0987 I don't think you understand what is an unabridged translation. All the Gita Press ones are abridged which holds no scholarly value to be honest.
@@sadenb Sorry, in the comment you have not said about the unabridged translation. I know what is unabridged edition. I think, below is an example of unabridged translation.
I request you, kindly don't take anything personally. I want to know that have you read any of the translations of Mr Debroy?
@@1234q0987 He does not know chaukhamba prakashan.
Loved it.
Please make a video on rabindranath thakur's Nobel theft...vn there was a communist goon government in west bengal....
I love you 💕💕💕
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I would have appreciated if the organizers have mentioned to which papers he has contributed articles to, which helps the viewers to go and read them
Pranam....Bharat needs overhauling.
Wish you could have spoken for another hour. 👌👌🙏🙏🙏
Who was the first person who has penned down Ramayan on paper/leaf....?
Watch it in 1.5x.
how can we increase the speed on TH-cam 😂please help
Figured out
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damn i feel like im in hogwarts.... his english 👍👍👍👍🍻
Itihasa-purana is straight from sivhela or Sinhalese. Is Sanskrit an adoptation or vice versa?.
Not curlew bird but cranes sarus cranes in the shlok of ramayan
Crane but not sarus
@@yogeshroy9913 Sarus is the most likely in that part of the world and has been sited in wikipidia too
@@rajasphadke3995 Those were Krauncha in Sanskrit, Koonj in Hindi. According to Wikipedia it is Demoiselle crane. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoiselle_crane
@@yogeshroy9913 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarus_crane
@@rajasphadke3995 So both can't be right. Sanskrit Krauncha is called koonj in Hindi and konch in Bengali and Sanskrit Sarasa is called saras which is sarus crane in English. So sarus crane can't be krauncha.
Inside an unused well in the Indian Jungle , there were two lame frogs.
They thought that the dark well and the small round blue sky they saw on top was the cosmos. Till one day during unusually heavy rains, the water level of this well came up and both jumped out on to terra firma.
Excited they hopped along till they saw two child animals playing football. Immediately one of the frogs cried that the ball was manufactured by his great grandfather and established ownership over it.
The hopped along and wherever they went they gave cock and bull croaking stories of how their ancestors literally invented, discovered , built and made everything in the jungle.
They were so shrewd and slimy in their approach that very soon even the King lion was made to believe that the deep jungle belonged to these frogs, and lived in psychological subjugation.
Blah Blah -- Every fruit tree was planted by our ancestors, every lake was dug by our ancestors ---- Blah Blah -
These two frogs are the equivalent of German Friedrich Max Muller, and Englishman Thomas Babington Macaulay.
Macaulay under instructions from the Vatican and told Max Muller how to subvert and hijack world history.
In one single master stoke he gave the credit of every ancient Indian vedic work in language, Science, Mathematics , Astronomy etc.to the blonde blue eyed Christian white man.
The white master race had NOT invented or discovered anything till they came to India, other than what they grabbed from the Arabs which also arab learn from India.As soon the immoral white invader came to India they learnt Sanskrit, stole our intellectual rights patented it in their names and destroyed the originals ( or kept it back after injecting POISON into the originals ).
Why should a Master learn the language of a slave ?
Bible considers that the cosmos is a few thousand years old. Western historians have been trying to date Rig Veda to 1500 BC ( instead of 5000 BC ) because as per Bible the creation happened in 4004 BC at 9 AM on 23rd October.
*Naturally you cannot have a book written before the creation of cosmos , right ?*
So they burn all library of world , rewrite world history and prove that before 4004 bc there is nothing happned call it mythology .
Bishop Ussher had declared it as the date of creation. The Holy Bible says that the human race began with Adam and Eve.
(All nonsense )
Jesus Was never Exist
Jesus is fictional character
Plz see this video....
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And Vatican has been pressurising all and sundry to disprove Vedic literature that stated in 5000 BC in writing, that the cosmos is 15 billion years old and that the mind and consciousness has to be factored in. Well the advent of quantum physics has proved Bible and Max Mueller wrong.
Fake history is weapon of white invaders even they hijack all world history to hide there crime over humanity and with fraud history humans blame over each other and quarrel .
Non violent and vegetarian Indian has never attacked any other country till now-- and as a result invaders murdered 90 million Hindus. ,Burn priceless Library and distort Vedic civilization
These vulgar white invaders robbed us blind in 250 years , converting India from the richest on the planet to the poorest. They stole our knowledge and patented it in their names.
WHY DID THEY LEARN OUR LANGUAGE SANSKRIT
WHY DID THEY STEAL PART 2 ( BRAHMANAS ) AND PART 3 ( ARANYAKAS ) OF OUR VEDAS ? ( THESE TWO SECTIONS CONTAINED BASIS OF SCIENCE AND MATH )
Now they want to make fun of our poverty and ignorance?
Not any more !
These immoral people never expected an Internet age , right ?
They thought they could control the media, the historians and peer reviewed magazines and control everything , right?
Wrong !
For more Click link below .....
ajitvadakayil.blogspot.com/2011/01/mother-of-all-civilisations-saraswati.html?m=1
Under 4 Varna, shudra could not be the lower untouchables in case they were highly taxed. Manu Smriti explained by you therefore seems wayward, as bending leftist
Do we have the original?
@@AjeyVikram we have critical version which remove all milawat
Very inspiring but then I was filled with thoughts as how he could refer to Ramayana as a later version just because of one Gita shloka? It could have been vice versa? It's not a justification.
In the Ramayana referred to within Mahabharat is it not referring to Valmiki Rishi and crediting him as the adi Kavi?! When the Ramayana narrated to Yudhisthira?!
People should follow Dr. Ranganji for authenticity as he has been a specialist on this topic
महोदय आपका भाष्य बहूत अच्छा था। पर में शब्द और व्यकरण के बारे में कुछ कहने की चेष्टा करता हूँ। ये सब कवि थे पर इसका ज्यादा तर भाग लोक में भी जाता है। में मानता हूँ बीना व्यकरण के शब्द का मतलब लगाना मुश्किल है। इसीलिए पुराण में लोक दिए है। एक उदाहरण मैं कहता हूँ एप्पल तो bazzar लोक कहेंगे कैसे किलो? पर विज्ञान लोक में कहेंगे मोबाइल। कॉम्प्यूटर लोक में कहेंगे mac। इसका अर्थ है ये शब्द कोनसे लोक में या किस लिए पढ़ा जा रहा है। उसीपर उस शब्द का अर्थ निर्भर करेगा। कुछ गलत हो तो क्षमा करें। धन्यवाद।
Manu smriti or manu samhita ?
The Budhist version of the Ramayana is just part of propaganda literature.
Rama praying to the Budha is artistically and schematically unconvincing.
The Budha represents only one part of human life , that is moksha
Rama is an aviator whose Dharma is kshatriya Dharma.
Where was he all these days 🧐
Right wingers ko kam samjh aayega... Actual work.. Because they only do best is bhagti not chintan
@jyo yes, indeed. That's how we are. But i dont think people are inherited devoid from rationalism, that's what you develop with conditioning
Lol. u r just an ignorant.
These books and manuscripts are stolen from Indian libraries and are reappearing in American museums and colleges. #BRINGBACKINDIANGLORY #INDICRENAISSANCE #SUPPORTDHARMA #DHARMAKNOWLEDGEISWEALTH
Ye peeke aya hai kya?
Listen in 1.5x !
I have not listened to the talks completely, just listened a part. I think, please forgive my language, that Mr. Roy must research a more. It appears that the manner in which he is talking about the upper garment of Ma Sita, he wants to convince it as something like blouse. But that is absolutely incorrect.
The actual shlok of VR says:
तेषां मध्ये विशालाक्षी कौशेयं कनकप्रभम्।
उत्तरीयं वरारोहा शुभान्याभरणानि च।।3.54.2।।
The word
**उत्तरीयं** uttariyan is translated as "an upper garment worn by either sex and thrown loosely *OVER THE SHOULDERS*". It is something like dupatta.
Therefore, read the Sanskrit texts, do not depend on others.
Why don't you write about it ?
1234q0987 well you should have commented after watching the full video.
Sanskrit me ek word ke kai arth hote h.Jisko jo acha lagta h wo utha leta h.
You are suffering from Chrislamized Hinduism (like most Hindus today).
Or else you won't be so disturbed...
@@anandrmnn Is this your logical intellectual response to what I have written?
Sir your Ramayana translation are a bit confusing and misleading . Just saying 🙏
can you share more details, please? I was about to consider buying his translated books.
dhool mathe par thi par aaeena saaf karte rahe zindagi bhar.
His tone is quite annoying. Other than that, the knowledge is good.
I like that tone. It shows passion to the subject
This would be a lot more watchable if he got rid of that ridiculous accent.
Use 1.75x . Thank me later
As usual this guy is ignorant of value of the Puranas, which are not only history, but also the history of the theology of Sanatan religion. Vishnu Purana is the principle Purana and records who the Kurus replaced Sanatan with Semitic Hinduism and Vishnu with Semitic god Rama (Ramses) by manipulating Ramayan and Mahabharata, after destroying the Yadava tribe of Krishna. Indian people don't care to remember their glorious past.
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@Dr. Er. Pegasus The Veda 4000-1900 bc endorse the theology of Vishnu purana, the three steps of Vishnu enshrined in the Puranas. I think I know why modern Indians are scared of the Puranas, as they expose the 'evil Kurus. (coined in Vishnu Purana), expressed by your fear of the term ;semitic'. The Indians bear the fate of subservience.
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Jehadis go and read mohammad
what khichri is this?
With the utmost respect, may i please suggest that such intellectual's qork be preaented by another orator at least? It is extremely jarring to try and stay with the narration (focused) with the stiffest upper-lip vrirish accent and Bengali accent and then no accent that comes and goes. Please do listen to the lecture again, without bias and you woyld see ky point...with such gora saab accent, it just sounds like another white man telling us what, we, our culture and our historical texts are....consider your visually impaired followers.
Thanks ans regards
Namaste
Bharat mata ki jai
I was really looking forward to some information but I found this speaker hard to endure. He keeps shouting at moving around lol
Your intellect is limited so you got trapped into mannerism rather than focus on the substance.
@@Objective.fairminded Oh right..so because I do not like the speaker's style it must be my intellect that is the problem. Yeh that makes sense! Lol.
Shut your mouth
@@akhileshpal2698 Don't get triggered lol
@@cookiecruncher3260 more about maturity that you can be so detered from learning something amazing just because of his mannerisms.
The Dr. did not do justice to his speech by over dramatising his tone, and shouting into the mike. An unnecessary and quite irritating to hear a one hour lecture. Can't we speak normal on itihaasa..? this overdramatisatoon seems to be very common amongst Indian s
Maybe that's his character, i too had a problem for 5-10 mins but then there are more important things he's speaking about. And what nonsense are you talking about shouting in the mike..... just lower the volume na.
He's absorbed in the text. That's why. I really appreciate the ups and downs.
He is too involved
Shiv Kumar; Typical 'Bang Bandhu.
His speaking style is extremely irritating. The over-dramatic raaaaaiiiiisssiiiingg and loooweeerrriningg is really getting on my nerves, and his message is being lost.
greatbalance his speaking style.is perfect ....he kept me engaged
He might be great scholar but his articulation skills are terrible. He must work on it to make himself more soothing to ears.