How to install a rivnut without a dedicated tool.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- This video shows how to properly tighten a rivet nut without the dedicated tool for the job. It's particularly useful for tight spaces but be ready to sweat a lot if you decide to use steel rivnuts. The ones shown in the video are all made of aluminium for a reason: as Brian Day pointed out in the comments Steel rivnuts are almost impossible to be "hand" tightened!
00:04 Step 1: Inserting the rivnut
00:11 Step 2: Screwing the nut&bolt combo into the rivnut
00:22 Step 3: Tightening the rivnut in place
00:46 Step 4: Removing the contraption from the rivnut
01:06 Job done!
01:13 A real world example!
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Thank you!! No long ass story about where it all began, to the point.
that's what she said!
Hey what's up everybody? So in this video we're gonna talk about...
And .....There it is! No big story or confusing chats about when they were in the service and that guy that did it WRONG! LOL. Oh and NO Noise in the video except for you. There's no need for digital orchestra hits and drum samples in a video about hardware and a great tip on how to do it cheaper and well. Thanks.
You're welcome! We used music in the past but decided not to because well... it's annoying :)
The same goes for all the usual introduction, begging for likes and subscriptions etc. We film what we do, when we do it and we feel like filming it. That's why the production quality is so low! We are happy as long as the video and its description are clear enough to help fellow enthusiasts.
@@TheDementedMonkeys Where you say 'begging for likes and subscriptions'; funny that, I just subscribed even before I saw your comment and after swinging one video. Cheers from Richmond NSW.
@@techo61 Thanks for the support buddy!
This has just become my new way of riveting from now on.Thank you buddy,this is absolutely brilliant.10/10.
Welcome to the club!
Bout time I found a good video without a bunch of talk that no one cares to hear...
That's our style! We even skip on the music lately :) Thanks!
Thank you for that simple explanation!! Unfortunately, some people make this look very difficult, with a plethora of tools needed in all instances.
We just follow the "kiss" method. Keep it simple, stupid!
I liked this video. I didn't read all the comments, but the trick to this technique is that the rivet nut needs to be a snug fit into the hole that you are filling. If not, it will turn endlessly if the back side is in a blind spot. If you have access, you can grab the unsplined end of the rivet nut with a curved jaw Vise-Grip type pliers. Once it can't spin, it will mushroom out quickly to fill the hole, and then it will hold itself while you tighten it down further. The package usually shows the drill size, but sometimes drilling in awkward places makes the final hole oversized, so you might want to start smaller than the size on the package.
Very much appreciated. I have a 50+ year-old Land Rover held together with self-tapping wood screws and bolts you need 12' long arms to hold the nut! Tomorrow I replace all that I can with rivnuts - no need for a tool thanks to your clear instructions.
You're welcome! However if you have to replace many rivnuts just go ahead and buy a good dedicated tool... this should only be intended as a "field repair" when the need arises :)
In case you didn't know, they also come in aluminium. Remember galvanic corrosion
Thank you...NO waffling, straight to the point!
that's the way we like it.... and why YT doesn't seem to push us as much as other channels that babble on for ages :)
Awesome video and saved my arse yesterday. I broke off a nut that was welded to the inside of a tube in my van. Rivnut and this technique got it fixed without calling a mechanic!
I'm glad we could help! Ultimately that's what this channel's approach to diy videos is for.
best video so far on how to rivet.
thanks dude!
Even with the washer the rivet is turning with the nut. I don't seem to be making any progress 😕
Hi there, this is really awesome tip. I will be installing this soon. Now I know how to do it without special tool. Thanks a million!!
You're welcome!
Thank you. Was struggling until I saw this and realised I need to use a washer. Perfect, thanks
Mine wasn’t working for over half an hour of trying the rivnut would actually come off the bolt I lubricated the washer same thing and I took the washer off and it worked straight away not sure if It is a weird riv nut or washer
You are welcome!
Good vid... I hate sitting through useless crap when i am cold and dirty and need the info on site. The last vid i found made me want the nuclear codes
the lack of nuclear codes is what makes us produce visually crappy videos that also happen to be on point! Welcome to the family.
Mine just became loose on my bicycle. It seemed to work flawlessly but the rattling etc may have loosened it a bit is there a way to know how tight it should be?
Howdy. Perhaps it was a bit loose or simply of poor quality. Rivnuts are hit or miss. Since I don't know how tight it was it's hard for me to give a proper answer :(
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice work.
Merry Christmas
Thanks! I wish I had more time to keep helping others... I hope to be able to film some new stuff relatively soon.
Excellent video! Thanks very much!
You're welcome!
Thank you so much!
Thanks. To the point. We'll done
You're welcome!
Great demo!!
I found that if hold rivnut in pliers before I put it in hole and start to tighten it so it will fit more snuggly in hole then it won't start spinning
Thanks, this was not easy on an M10 rivnut but it worked.
At least now you know you could hold your own in a strongman competition!
Before I even attempted to install the blind rivet nut, thought I’d take the bolt the I will use in application to see if it would fit. They’re both M6. The bolt I’m gonna use stopped two threads in and those two threads were deformed. Why would that be?
Good job
lol try using the closed ends of the wrenches when possible (it keeps the bolt head and nut from striping i learned that in high school and have always followed that rule but to be honest I've never seen a bolt or nut get striped but I'm sure they can get bad, it can also make it easier sometimes). but thx this helped me mount my car speaker back in the door, i would have just used rivets but i accidentally drilled the holes to big when removing the old rivets (not my brightest moment) and now its nice because i can take it off with a few screws now if i need to service anything in that door thx
Thank you for the tip. We are happy that this little video helped you fix the kind of silly mistake we all made.... once or.... too many times to count ;)
Thanks man. This worked really well.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Lol I seen another video 10 yrs ago you drill out the threads on the nut use box wrench to the bolt and nut to hold fastener in the hole than tighten down the bolt to compress your way saved some time and a drill bit those bolt threads are not soft to drill out lol
I just keep unscrewing the rivnut, any tips
Tighten it A LOT more!
Molto bravo
excellent video - tx!
use a socket wrench to hold the bolt in place in the first example.
Yeah and the spanner to turn the nut. That's what I thought too lol
Brilliant 👍🏼
Thanks!
WTF! Where is the 5 min intro video and slurred spiel with
Oh, you can find all that in various videos of youtubers who actually make some money with their channels! Here we like to keep it simple!
Sorry to ask a basic question, but what is holding the rivet on securely after you remove the bolt and nut? I don't see how it's fastening.
It's its plastic deformation! The bolt "sucks" the rivnut towards the metal, deforming it.
Fancy me MISSING the description of your video, would have saved me a lot of trouble!!
Perhaps add the reason on your description... "S/S are IMPOSSIBLE to secure" ....lol cheers, I've now subscribed :)
Thanks! We have amended the description in your honor!
Hahahahahahaha.....well done guys ;) Aluminium rivnuts now ordered, spinach order cancelled....CHEERS :)
Don't be a bad boy and eat your veggies! :)
Do they sell rivets at hardware stores?
Maybe they do, maybe they don't... :)
Try eBay or just Google they come in zinc passivated (coated) mild steel, stainless and aluminium. Don't know about other materials.
I know it's an old video but this is an awesome video, on thing is were having an issue that when when we try to tighten the nut while holding the bolt still, the rivet just rotates with the nut and never gets snug enough to tighten. Does the length of the bolt matter perhaps? The bolt we're using doesn't poke out the other side
having the screw go all the way in surely helps, a couple of threads out are all that it's needed. Steel rivnuts are tough though... that's why I mostly stick to aluminium ones unless galvanic corrosion is an issue. I mean, it's not like i'd use them on structural parts after all :)
@@TheDementedMonkeys for the life of me I still cannot understand why my rivet just spins while I tighten the nut when yours stays completely still
@@MrMasterChrisXbox Beginner's luck!
Does this method work with the larger steel rivnuts?
If you're on a diet of anger and steroids, with a long enough lever...
Ta for this, great tip. One suggestion: would it not be easier to use socket (maybe on tommy bar rather than ratchet) on bolt rather than spanner?
it depends on how tight the space is, for demonstration purposes we went with what's quicker and easier to film :)
Mine, the screw always get snap & the rivnut always going around every time I turn,
You. Need. More. Torque! As we all do :)
Anyone know how to use this method on steel slotted rivet nuts? It seemed to work on a couple but not all because the rivet spins as you crank down on the nut therefore unscrewing the bolt from the rivet. I JB Welded them all beforehand but did not seem to work for all of them.
I have no idea, I have never used them. Sorry! They should work just the same, in principle... This method works best with softer aluminium rivnuts anyway, steel ones are tough cookies!
I ran into the same problem: When turning the nut, it turns the washer, which turns the rivet nut. Result: Screw unscrews and nothing happens to the rivet nut.
Solution: Replace the washer with a piece of scrap metal that you easily can prevent from turning. Then the insert won't turn and this method works great. Problem solved.
@@pnnielsen Thanks for the extra Info!
You need to link to some rivnut suppliers if they would give you some $$ cause this makes these things more affordable
I wish manufacturers showed more interest in our videos! The reality is that most of the things we film have very low visibility so nobody really cares!
You should be able to pick up smaller sizes, like M3-M8 on Amazon (at least Al ones).
@@therealchayd I generally avoid purchasing hardware from amazon.. you never know what you get and it's generally of very poor quality :(
The problem I’m having is that the rivnut is spinning in the hole along with the nut which just ends up pushing the bolt out without crushing the rivnut…
That shouldn't be possible. Have you tried using a longer wrench to keep the bolt steady? Or a softer rivnut for that matter... steel ones are incredibly hard to deal with.
@@TheDementedMonkeys I ended up using a thicker plate/strip of metal instead of the washer and it worked great, thanks for the reply tho!! (Did seize a nut while installing it but that's easily replaceable)
If you use a spanner on each of the bolt and nut, any incidental rotation of the rivnut doesn't matter, the expansion and locking will occur.
I regularly use M6 STEEL rivnuts and the two-spanner method, no problems ever.
That looks brilliant mate. I must have done somethig wrong as while doing the bolt was just cut in half... What am I doing wrong?
Perhaps you overtightened it?
Can you do this with the "plus nuts"?
Yes!
your second install was better. however, don't use such a long screw/bolt. it will help keep things straight and flush.
You're right! Often times it's pretty hard to find the right tools or screws to show what's going on on camera!
Hi, I tried this method yesterday on my aluminium bike using stainless steel rivnuts, unfortunately it failed twice and just bent the bolt instead, the rivnut just wouldn't compress...!!
Straight from our video description: "The ones shown in the video are all made of aluminium for a reason". Steel rivnuts require proper tools 99% of the time.
In your case I would advise that you don't use steel rivnuts on an aluminium bike frame given how hard they are and the risk of galvanic corrosion. Buy a set of aluminium rivnuts and show your SO how strong you became after eating a can of spinach!
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly :) I hadn't seen on the description that you'd used aluminium, no WONDER I struggled ;) I was advised to use S/S due to the risk of corrosion with aluminium , trying to fit an eBike battery to my top tube for the conversion, I'll order some more rivnuts......many thanks again :)
You're welcome!
It's quite the opposite! It's contact between two different metals (well, alloys in this case) like steel and aluminium that causes galvanic corrosion. It's actually an often underlooked problem on many sportscars like the lotus elise where the suspension arms are connected to the aluminium chassis via a SS fork. Good builders often place a layer of epoxy or poly paint to prevent the 2 surfaces from making direct contact :)
I was CLEARLY badly advised..... :)
Hello again, I've eventually got around to trying your method using the aluminium rivnuts.....I've failed each time as the bolt just turns it's way out of the rivnut rather than tightening up on my bike.
I'm copying exactly what you do....any idea what else I can do to fix these two rivnuts?
Cheers for now
I suspect this is genuinely better than using the terrible tool they provide to install them.
Eh, some times it is, some times it isn't :)
Quality tools are always helpful. The cheap crap they provide to install them is a nightmare to use.
Brian Day
2 seconds ago
Hello again, I've eventually got around to trying your method using the aluminium rivnuts.....I've failed each time as the bolt just turns it's way out of the rivnut rather than tightening up on my bike.
I'm copying exactly what you do....any idea what else I can do to fix these two rivnuts?
Cheers for now :)
Buy a proper rivnut tool! The secret is to apply pressure when tightening the nut but that may not be easy on a bike. Some thread locker could help as well!
With a "proper tool" it's easier to use your body to apply pressure, should it be needed. If you really have trouble try gluing the rivnut with some epoxy resin before "Popping" it. It shouldn't be done and i shouldn't advise that you do so but I understand the frustration that comes from poor health conditions. You're welcome anyway, i'm glad this channel is both helping you and giving you a place to vent a bit!
I just did a project with these again.. I needed a refresh as i hardly use these.. But i had the same problem.. But making sure the hole was as tight as possible fixed it.. Or if you have access to the backside to hold the rivnut with pliers to keep it from turning until it grabs. Was a PITA until i figured out how to get the hole the perfect size to press it in there to begin with.
I ran into the same problem: When turning the nut, it turns the washer, which turns the rivet nut. Result: Screw unscrews and nothing happens to the rivet nut.
Solution: Replace the washer with a piece of scrap metal that you easily can prevent from turning. Then the insert won't turn and this method works great. Problem solved.
Add more washers, and oil the bolt.
I ran into a problem: When turning the nut, it turns the washer, which turns the rivet nut. Result: Screw unscrews and nothing happens to the rivet nut.
Solution A: Replace the washer with a piece of scrap metal that you easily can prevent from turning. Then the insert won't turn and this method works great. Problem solved.
Solution B: Use an oversized nut that slips. Check this video - clever! th-cam.com/video/xwSzoDyjWA8/w-d-xo.html (However, note that this method puts wear on the thread of the rivet nut, so method A is better).
I was listening for a voice
tough luck!
more practice with spanners required ... heheheh
Aahahaha! The truth is that I have severe problems in my left arm after too many botched surgeries :p
Doesn't work very well. The Rivnut just spins with the nut and you end up with a loose fastener
Almost works.
....and it's just as crooked and f'd up as if you DIDN'T use the right tool....Dad was correct! Use the right tool for the right job.
It's only crooked because He Absolutely does not know how to use hand tools.... This method does work, you just gotta have mechanical abilities.
Didn’t work