I've done something similar but I use a tiny dab of synthetic boat trailer bearing grease on the washer and the threads. Where I live we have ratcheting box end wrenches, some with variable angle handles...
I'm in a fix. I have a 1986 Pontiac 2.8lt injected and a irreplaceable intake with thermostat housing ( Pot metal) bolt holes stripped. Cap won't hold and leaks. Thin walls M10 bolts. Though was drop to M8 resess holes for depth of lip. Love keep it simple tooling. Missing my Master Cheif Navel Air father. 1939-69. Car is 6000 STE. Wife's poshpontiac. Making brain numb
Been doing it this way for roughly 40 years and it works fine. Although I use a 6mm plate and leave it flat so that I can fasten it with a clamp because then you only have to hold the ratchet. Which of course is according to where one needs to use it. A washer between the nut and plate kann possibly reduce the friction between both (he recommends lube for that reason) and improves the torque weil reducing the amount of pressure needed. Never owned a Rivet Gun, but also never needed Rivet Nuts on a regular basis either. So therefore this method was always practical. P.S.- Never tried this above 8 mm threads.
I followed your instructions to repair damaged threads of a friend's sailboat mast gate using aluminium Rivnut. Result was awesome 👍. Instead of rethreading the M8 for large M10 size bolt, with Rivnut we actually end up using M6 bolts 😁 Thank You Smoking Steel Garage 👍
Use a brass washer between the nut and plate tool. Brass will allow the nut to slip around as you tighten it. The brass is almost like a lubricant but it doesn't get squeezed out.
Was going to suggest the same thing. The bracket acts like a washer. A second washer allows a bit more slip than one washer alone. Might be neat to see if steel + brass uses less force or hardened steel bracket and hardened steel (stainless maybe) washer has more slip. I'm thinking the softer metal might add a little drag, but either should be good for what. You're doing here. Also I wonder if a bracket that captures the ratchet might be useful. A little bit less to manage dexterity wise. Either way, great video!
@@underourrock In the marine industry, we use a swaging tool to fit garboard drain tubes into the transom of the boat. The drain tube is made of brass and the swaging tool rounds over the end and seals it to the transom. This swaging tool has the brass washer setup I described. The brass washer goes against the die and then a steel washer sits between the brass washer and the nut used to tighten the swaging tool. I used the same tool for at least 20 years, probably at least 200 to 300 times without changing the washers. I will admit I don't know if it is some special alloy or not but it just looks like plain everyday brass.
@@rogermccaslin5963 thank you very much for the added info. Wasn't saying the brass wouldn't work..any simple flat washer will give more slip than no washer. Was just curious if maybe there was a small difference with the softer metal. Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a big difference.
Dear lad you are a lifesaver I’m in the middle of a project I live over an hour and a half away from the closest hardware store I bought a cheap Riv nut gun online it lasted about three river nuts and crumbled apart this video allowed me to continue on with my project thank you for posting
You smart bugga! I've been working as a transport canada licensed aircraft structures engineer for the last 28 years. And you just taught me a new trick. We use rivenuts extensively in aviation and I've never seen them installed without the fancy pants tool. Great job my friend👍
Ahh that's awesome. I wouldn't describe myself as smart though! I was just in a jam, and had to find a quick solution. Thanks for the comment! and glad it helped you out.
I use a riv nut tool quite often in my work place, I’ve never had one break. However this is a great hack for some jobs that you can’t get the tool into, and for tightening a spinner, as long as you can thread that bolt into it, I think it’s a great option.
Yep, I've also never broken a rivnut tool, but this saved me the other day when I welded some parts together and no longer had space to get the tool in.
I have one of those Amazon Chinesium ones and it works quite well until your under a vehicle and need to use your chest as a brace. Thanks to your video I was able to quickly make my own lever thingy. Mine is ugly and lacks the quality look of child labor but worked like a charm. Thank you sir!
Well, what a find. Working to get my E-Type on the road and this will come in so handy. Now I only need two buy the rivets. Great job coming up with this tool. The higher the level of sophistication, the simpler the tool. In my opinion. It takes a lot to think through the process to winnow it down to a great solution. Good job and thanks, Mike
I regularly use a rivnut or nutsert tool, and the method shown here when needed. One thing to remember is that with both , you only have to start the rivet compression until it bites on the sheet metal, then the final compression can be done when the final assembly occurs. Saves time and is vastly easier on the rivnut mandrels, which in the smaller sizes have a limited lifetime.
I do oven cleaning and repairs. Have found rivet nuts useful where some of the screw mount holes for the back panels or element have corroded. One of the original videos I saw for seating rivet nuts was using a nut, bolt and washers to set the rivet nuts. Only problem I was having was that the rivet nut was sometimes rotating when trying to tighten. They have a grip profile on the side but rivet nuts but they dont always stop the nut rotating. Love this shaped piece of metal with the hole which will stop the nut rotating. Unfortunately I failed trying to seat 2 rivet nuts yesterday wasting over 1 hour, and spent out on a tool. Will make up a couple of these metal profiles at the weekend. Thanks for this brilliant tip Smoking Steel Garage.
Yes, a ratcheting box-end _and_ a way to integrate a t-handle allen wrench with the shim plate is what came to mind. With the stationery allen wrench itself holding the plate, you'll need only two hands! And the process of deforming the fluted section of the rivnut can be more-or-less continuous from start to finish. The question I'd address with this kit in front of me: is the installation quicker or more reliable (i.e. non-destructive) if the flutes on the rivnut are lightly scored circumferentially, near the mid-point of the flutes, beforehand? Slightly below?
As you say, a good smear of copper slip makes turning the nut much easier, the other essential is to use a high tensile bolt, as you have done here a hex socket bolt is usually high tensile,(providing it is not a chinese one), these rivenuts are very useful in fixing parts after assembly. Many thanks for posting this! Chris B.
I don’t understand why this gets a thumbs down. As a DIY user I needed to fit 2 m10 ruvnuts to my van chassis. Laid on my back with very little ground clearance in the roadside, this worked perfectly for me. Because a. I don’t have the tool to deal with rivnuts that big. B. Even if I did, I don’t think I’d have the room to use it. So; fantastic tip, it’s much appreciated, and your link has been shared. Thanks k
Thanks for taking the time to make this helpful video. You're really patient with all these armchair critics. More people might more inclined to post content if it weren't for some of these basement dwellers.
This was excellent and far better than other videos placing only washers under the nut; washers do not stop the rivnut from spinning with the nut. Holding that plate stationary under the nut prevents the rivnut from being turned while the nut is tightened. I also agree very much with using high strength bolt and a long barrel but, particularly on M5 and smaller rivnut, mine stripped the threads as the rivnut was pulling up. You got me, Subscribed!
so in case of emergency this idea is really good. i myself am too stingy to buy an expensive tool because of the few m8 rivet nuts. but up to m6 you are faster and more relaxed with a suitable tool. anyways, thanks for your solution.
Wonderful idea. I need to put a couple of riv nuts into my sailboat boom and this is just the way to do it. Simple little one day winter project. Thanks so much for the idea.
I use rivnuts a fair bit in sheet metal and one trick I use is to put a bit of LockTite on the outside of rivnut and around the hole in the sheet metal before I crimp the rivnut. This seems to work at keeping the rivnut from spinning in the hole when you use it later. If you're able to let it dry first. CA glue might be a quicker option.
Been using them this way mainly M8 rivnuts for years, l also use my Bosch impact driver which also works great. Just make sure the nut and bolt your using is high tensile and keep the threads oiled.
Thanks for that great video on alternative methods and ways to prevent the threaded nut, or the bolt from breaking in the event of a off set condition or confined work area. I can see the myriad of conditions where a nut cannot be added and this is a great time saver as well as a money saver. I had some similar situations and the threaded part was rusted stuck and thankfully, the threaded part was stainless steel, so using a chisel and prybar made short work of prying the screw enough to add WD 40, so I was able to remove it. I could also see that if the insert was damaged from inside from a bent condition, this method could also help to raise the screw enough to fit in a chisel or grinder to remove it. Five stars for communication since many videos have music all threw the video with no explanation of each step, as you've probably seen too. 👏👏✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
Thanks a lot man. You saved me 50 bucks for a silly tool I only use very little... I own a M3 to M6 one (which I use quite a bit) but I was looking to get the occasional M8 and M10 rivnut in every now and again... thanks again...
@@SmokingSteelGarage do you think rivnuts could be used to install seatbelts in a car that doesn't have predefined nuts for seatbelts in the interior wall?
Excellent tip, thanks for sharing. Suggestion; could use a stud connector instead of a nut, and also a ratchet spanner. I only thought of this suggestion after watching this vid. Thanks again.
Así at this point, I guess we could use a drill instead of the socket. This was helpful, I am getting a little side gig going and the least that I can invest and still get the same results the better. Great video. Thank you.
Perfect! I bought several sizes of rivnuts from an ad on facebook. It represented including the tool, but . . . . . This is a great solution to save some money.
I have installed a rivnut on the inside of a square tube with a bolt, two nuts, a couple of washers and some lubricant. Crank the two nuts together to make an anvil, add two washers for slippage and turn the whole thing with a ratchet. It works as long as you start with a tight friction fit to keep the rivnut from spinning. There is always a risk of stripping the rivnut but if that happens you just drill it out and start over.
Clever! A tip, if you have problems with the threads stripping on the bolt, or the bolt breaking purchase a higher quality bolt. Hardware store bolts are garbage. Years ago I had seat post adjusting bolt problem as the threads kept stripping. I found a store that carried military surplus fasteners and purchased a few bolts that originally had been used on fighter jets. That was the end of that problem!
I’ve been using rivnuts since i found them in 2007. I had no idea there was a tool to install them so I simply use 2 washers, lubricated, & a high strength cap screw with a nut. Hold the caps crew as per video & perform the Same action with the nut. The nut turns the upper washer while the lower washer “sticks” to the rivnut flange when the pressure increases & the Same outcome happens. Just undo the nut & both washers free up. Unscrew the caps crew & admire you “no-tool” rivnut insertion.
This Helped me out tons. No one else's videos address the problem of the Rivnut spinning with the jamb nut and unscrewing from the installation bolt..Great solution!!
Been using a horn bracket to install the inserts for 20+ years lol have 2 of em, fast n easy. I don't use an extra nut, just a flat washer, then I don't need 2 wrenches to tighten it up and get nice & tight fit in the hole
Good tip! i nherited a Used WorkVan that had Commercially purchased shelving and Storage racks in it utilizing those RivNuts and i stripped those to install Custom made Shelving built by me those Riv Nuts were a pain in the backside to remove and I just ran new Sheet Metal self tapping Screws into the Vans wall reinforcing Ribs that held those shelves in place for 25 years and 150,000 miles at that time i had no intention or need to purchase the RivNut tool or system
Nice idea. I’ve got a couple of suggestions, a ratchet ring spanner would make things easier and a few high grade bolts would make it less likely that the bolt would snap when tightening up the rivnut.
Go to your nearest industrial fastener supplier and purchase suitable high tensile capscrews/allen head screws (machine bolts). These will exceed anything you can get at a bigbox retailer.
Thanks. You saved me money and disappointment in a cheap tool. I only have a couple of rivet nuts to do and was about to waste money on a low quality rivet nut tool.
Porkchop porkchop, greasy greasy... Installed that rivnut fuckin easy easy! 😁 Big help! Much appreciated!! I was going to weld threads on my bike to install a second bottle cage. I don't have the skills to be confident enough to do it. Ran across this and got the whole job done for $11 (just the price of 150pc assorted rivnuts). Again, thanks!
good stuff, just a tip I noticed, your hand made tool with the holes, it could also work as a 90* angle and turned the handle bit down and let it jam against the frame so u didn't need to hold it. just a though.
That was very useful information. If ever I need to use a Rivnut, I will remember this. One thing I would suggest that you didn't mention, is to use a high tensile bolt. All the best from Queensland Australia.
I used to use Rivnuts back in the 1960's. Back then, they were patented by Goodyear. All it takes to install them is a Grade 8 screw of the right thread, and a high strength nut.
Am building a kit plane. Thanks for this info plus comment about brass washers. Rivnuts very useful items where you can't get a spanner behind to do up or undo the nut that holds the bolt. Thus you can secure a piece of equipment such as an instrument to a sheet of metal and it is then very easy to take it off and put back when required for servicing etc.
Awesome, a gun is still worth having if you do lots. but this is a nice simple hack for the odd couple here and there. and also for repairing loose rivnuts. Thanks for watching and the comment though!
Thanks for the method. I only need to do a few every so often, so buying another $30CAD tool seems a waste. Your method saves me the trouble. Hello from Canada
Son of a diddly. Actually very useful YT video. Thanks. I've thought couple times that you likely could do jig yourself for them, but never got rivet nuts to try. That's maybe the easiest setup there can be. Good job 👍👍
I made the same tool but use a star washer between the top of the rivnut and the bottom of the tool. This holds the rivnut from spinning while you tighten the bolt. Much easier to hold onto when drawing the nut up.
JCB using these on to hold everything inside the cab, and half the S.O.B. will spin, and Paccar use them to hold the cab lights on the trucks and the same thing there. They have their use but if your using a lot of these is time saver to buy the tool, if one or once an a while do it like you doing.
What ever bolt/nut size you want to use for this it needs to be grade 8. I tried this with standard #10 size screw and the threads on the screw I used all but stripped on the first riv-nut I set. Also use molly grease on the screw threads. In reality, the tool I make next for this will be tool steel, I will cut the threads and then harden it. I will probably just buy a set on mandrels for a quality nut setting tool as if those are going to last more then a few sets they have to be darn good grade of steel properly hardened.
Thanks for this My new rivnut tool broke today (partly from my harsh handling and partly because it was made from Chinese cheese) So i made one like yours and this saved my day today.
Hi Fin. Yep that is exactly why I ended up coming up with this. I got fed up with breaking M4 attachments on cheap rivnut tools. Glad It helped you out buddy!
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**Update** Silicon spray or WD40 makes it easier, but Copper Slip grease is even better!
Better still silicone grease, it stays where you put it.
I've done something similar but I use a tiny dab of synthetic boat trailer bearing grease on the washer and the threads. Where I live we have ratcheting box end wrenches, some with variable angle handles...
for exterior applications, use silicone caulk for sealing out water leakage if rusting is a factor
I'm in a fix. I have a 1986 Pontiac 2.8lt injected and a irreplaceable intake with thermostat housing ( Pot metal) bolt holes stripped. Cap won't hold and leaks.
Thin walls M10 bolts. Though was drop to M8 resess holes for depth of lip. Love keep it simple tooling. Missing my Master Cheif Navel Air father. 1939-69. Car is 6000 STE. Wife's poshpontiac. Making brain numb
Put a "Ball Thrust Bearing" under the nut
Been doing it this way for roughly 40 years and it works fine. Although I use a 6mm plate and leave it flat so that I can fasten it with a clamp because then you only have to hold the ratchet. Which of course is according to where one needs to use it. A washer between the nut and plate kann possibly reduce the friction between both (he recommends lube for that reason) and improves the torque weil reducing the amount of pressure needed. Never owned a Rivet Gun, but also never needed Rivet Nuts on a regular basis either. So therefore this method was always practical. P.S.- Never tried this above 8 mm threads.
Awesome, thanks for the comment. And thanks for watching as well.
yep nothing new
kann?? 🤔🤔🤔
I install a lot of door hardware and this method is actually comes with the hardware.
I followed your instructions to repair damaged threads of a friend's sailboat mast gate using aluminium Rivnut. Result was awesome 👍. Instead of rethreading the M8 for large M10 size bolt, with Rivnut we actually end up using M6 bolts 😁 Thank You Smoking Steel Garage 👍
Awesome, glad it helped you out.
Use a brass washer between the nut and plate tool. Brass will allow the nut to slip around as you tighten it. The brass is almost like a lubricant but it doesn't get squeezed out.
Fantastic bit of info
Was going to suggest the same thing. The bracket acts like a washer. A second washer allows a bit more slip than one washer alone.
Might be neat to see if steel + brass uses less force or hardened steel bracket and hardened steel (stainless maybe) washer has more slip. I'm thinking the softer metal might add a little drag, but either should be good for what. You're doing here.
Also I wonder if a bracket that captures the ratchet might be useful. A little bit less to manage dexterity wise. Either way, great video!
@@underourrock
In the marine industry, we use a swaging tool to fit garboard drain tubes into the transom of the boat. The drain tube is made of brass and the swaging tool rounds over the end and seals it to the transom. This swaging tool has the brass washer setup I described. The brass washer goes against the die and then a steel washer sits between the brass washer and the nut used to tighten the swaging tool. I used the same tool for at least 20 years, probably at least 200 to 300 times without changing the washers.
I will admit I don't know if it is some special alloy or not but it just looks like plain everyday brass.
@@rogermccaslin5963 thank you very much for the added info. Wasn't saying the brass wouldn't work..any simple flat washer will give more slip than no washer. Was just curious if maybe there was a small difference with the softer metal. Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a big difference.
Wrenchin' for many years and never used a Rivnut....the tightening up of a loose one was the clincher...... This video is getting saved.
Thankx :)
Right on... glad it helped you out!
Dear lad you are a lifesaver I’m in the middle of a project I live over an hour and a half away from the closest hardware store I bought a cheap Riv nut gun online it lasted about three river nuts and crumbled apart this video allowed me to continue on with my project thank you for posting
Oh yeah I’m in Nova Scotia Canada
Awesome this is exactly why I posted this film, glad it helped you out!
You smart bugga! I've been working as a transport canada licensed aircraft structures engineer for the last 28 years. And you just taught me a new trick. We use rivenuts extensively in aviation and I've never seen them installed without the fancy pants tool.
Great job my friend👍
Ahh that's awesome. I wouldn't describe myself as smart though! I was just in a jam, and had to find a quick solution. Thanks for the comment! and glad it helped you out.
Your bar tool is genius - no other nutsert videos have this. It prevents the common problem of the bottom washer and nutsert rotating with the bolt.
You are the only youtuber that shows how to do it correctly. Everyone else is blowing smoke.
Thank you for the comment. Means a lot. And glad it helped you. 👍😉
I use a riv nut tool quite often in my work place, I’ve never had one break. However this is a great hack for some jobs that you can’t get the tool into, and for tightening a spinner, as long as you can thread that bolt into it, I think it’s a great option.
Yep, I've also never broken a rivnut tool, but this saved me the other day when I welded some parts together and no longer had space to get the tool in.
What brand do you use? I've been having a hard time finding a good one where I live
I have one of those Amazon Chinesium ones and it works quite well until your under a vehicle and need to use your chest as a brace. Thanks to your video I was able to quickly make my own lever thingy. Mine is ugly and lacks the quality look of child labor but worked like a charm. Thank you sir!
They don't need to be pretty to work! Well done and thabsk for the Comment.
chinesium 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, what a find. Working to get my E-Type on the road and this will come in so handy. Now I only need two buy the rivets. Great job coming up with this tool. The higher the level of sophistication, the simpler the tool. In my opinion. It takes a lot to think through the process to winnow it down to a great solution. Good job and thanks, Mike
Thanks for the comment Mike, glad I helped you out. and E-Type, that is a bucket list car for sure. Very envious! Good luck with the restoration.
Awesome car 🖖😎👍
I regularly use a rivnut or nutsert tool, and the method shown here when needed. One thing to remember is that with both , you only have to start the rivet compression until it bites on the sheet metal, then the final compression can be done when the final assembly occurs. Saves time and is vastly easier on the rivnut mandrels, which in the smaller sizes have a limited lifetime.
Good tip!
This should only be used if the final assembly bolt is long enough to engage all of the rivet nuts threads whilst in a not-fully-compressed state.
I do oven cleaning and repairs. Have found rivet nuts useful where some of the screw mount holes for the back panels or element have corroded. One of the original videos I saw for seating rivet nuts was using a nut, bolt and washers to set the rivet nuts. Only problem I was having was that the rivet nut was sometimes rotating when trying to tighten. They have a grip profile on the side but rivet nuts but they dont always stop the nut rotating. Love this shaped piece of metal with the hole which will stop the nut rotating. Unfortunately I failed trying to seat 2 rivet nuts yesterday wasting over 1 hour, and spent out on a tool. Will make up a couple of these metal profiles at the weekend. Thanks for this brilliant tip Smoking Steel Garage.
Ratcheting wrench would be a great upgrade and time saver! Thanks for the tip! JD
You got that right!
Yes, a ratcheting box-end _and_ a way to integrate a t-handle allen wrench with the shim plate is what came to mind. With the stationery allen wrench itself holding the plate, you'll need only two hands! And the process of deforming the fluted section of the rivnut can be more-or-less continuous from start to finish.
The question I'd address with this kit in front of me: is the installation quicker or more reliable (i.e. non-destructive) if the flutes on the rivnut are lightly scored circumferentially, near the mid-point of the flutes, beforehand? Slightly below?
As you say, a good smear of copper slip makes turning the nut much easier, the other essential is to use a high tensile bolt, as you have done here a hex socket bolt is usually high tensile,(providing it is not a chinese one), these rivenuts are very useful in fixing parts after assembly. Many thanks for posting this! Chris B.
I don’t understand why this gets a thumbs down. As a DIY user I needed to fit 2 m10 ruvnuts to my van chassis. Laid on my back with very little ground clearance in the roadside, this worked perfectly for me. Because
a. I don’t have the tool to deal with rivnuts that big.
B. Even if I did, I don’t think I’d have the room to use it.
So; fantastic tip, it’s much appreciated, and your link has been shared.
Thanks k
Great to hear it helped you. A few others just don't get it........ Such is life 😁
Thanks for taking the time to make this helpful video. You're really patient with all these armchair critics. More people might more inclined to post content if it weren't for some of these basement dwellers.
Thanks Andrew, glad it helped you out, and the critics It's fine, Same as the day job 😁
This was excellent and far better than other videos placing only washers under the nut; washers do not stop the rivnut from spinning with the nut. Holding that plate stationary under the nut prevents the rivnut from being turned while the nut is tightened. I also agree very much with using high strength bolt and a long barrel but, particularly on M5 and smaller rivnut, mine stripped the threads as the rivnut was pulling up.
You got me, Subscribed!
You got it! Thanks for the comment, and thanks for watching!
A star washer between the rivnut and the bottom of the tool stops the rivnut from spinning.
thanks just purchased a rivet nut gun and Amazon amazon you tube clip explaining a cheap method.thanks again
so in case of emergency this idea is really good. i myself am too stingy to buy an expensive tool because of the few m8 rivet nuts.
but up to m6 you are faster and more relaxed with a suitable tool.
anyways, thanks for your solution.
Wonderful idea. I need to put a couple of riv nuts into my sailboat boom and this is just the way to do it. Simple little one day winter project. Thanks so much for the idea.
Sounds great! Thanks for the comment and good luck with the project!
I use rivnuts a fair bit in sheet metal and one trick I use is to put a bit of LockTite on the outside of rivnut and around the hole in the sheet metal before I crimp the rivnut. This seems to work at keeping the rivnut from spinning in the hole when you use it later. If you're able to let it dry first. CA glue might be a quicker option.
I tried that once and the lock tite reacted with the paint on the metal … x16 😭
Been using them this way mainly M8 rivnuts for years, l also use my Bosch impact driver which also works great. Just make sure the nut and bolt your using is high tensile and keep the threads oiled.
Thanks for sharing
Probably the most useful watch I've found on TH-cam, cheers
Really great video. Thanks for being so patient and thorough.
Thanks for that great video on alternative methods and ways to prevent the threaded nut, or the bolt from breaking in the event of a off set condition or confined work area. I can see the myriad of conditions where a nut cannot be added and this is a great time saver as well as a money saver. I had some similar situations and the threaded part was rusted stuck and thankfully, the threaded part was stainless steel, so using a chisel and prybar made short work of prying the screw enough to add WD 40, so I was able to remove it. I could also see that if the insert was damaged from inside from a bent condition, this method could also help to raise the screw enough to fit in a chisel or grinder to remove it. Five stars for communication since many videos have music all threw the video with no explanation of each step, as you've probably seen too. 👏👏✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
Thanks a lot man. You saved me 50 bucks for a silly tool I only use very little... I own a M3 to M6 one (which I use quite a bit) but I was looking to get the occasional M8 and M10 rivnut in every now and again... thanks again...
Awesome. Glad it helped you out. 👍
Just what I was looking for, car application. I want to fix an oil cooler to factory holes and this comes very handy! Thanks man!
Awesome. Glad we helped you out 👍😉
@@SmokingSteelGarage do you think rivnuts could be used to install seatbelts in a car that doesn't have predefined nuts for seatbelts in the interior wall?
@@AbbasBinYounas no. Rivnuts could pull through in a collision. Welded nuts would be better for seat belts.
@@firebird8600 thanks.
Wow! You just saved me $100 for the RivNut tool for 1/2" inserts! THANKS!
Awesome. Glad it helped you out 👍
Brilliant. Trying to compress some jack nuts and my rivnut tool wont reach by a couple of mm. You gave me the idea how to make it work!
Glad I could help
Excellent tip, thanks for sharing. Suggestion; could use a stud connector instead of a nut, and also a ratchet spanner. I only thought of this suggestion after watching this vid. Thanks again.
Así at this point, I guess we could use a drill instead of the socket. This was helpful, I am getting a little side gig going and the least that I can invest and still get the same results the better. Great video. Thank you.
Brilliant fix, will use the idea now - I bought a cheap one off fleabay first use the handle joint at the top just splayed open and it was knackered !
"Simple. Cheap. Ingenious." Spot On. Thank you. AND includes an excuse to get some copper slip.
Glad it helped
Perfect! I bought several sizes of rivnuts from an ad on facebook. It represented including the tool, but . . . . . This is a great solution to save some money.
Glad I could help!
I’m concerned about Fred. It seems he can get hurt during this procedure.
Brilliant. Just broke my riv nut tool. Followed your instructions. Worked perfectly. 👍👍👍👍👍
Awesome, glad it helped you out 😉
I do have to Right tool for this job.
But it's great to see someone giving Good advice on an economical way to install Rivet Nuts.
Thanks for watching! and thanks for the comment!
I have installed a rivnut on the inside of a square tube with a bolt, two nuts, a couple of washers and some lubricant. Crank the two nuts together to make an anvil, add two washers for slippage and turn the whole thing with a ratchet. It works as long as you start with a tight friction fit to keep the rivnut from spinning. There is always a risk of stripping the rivnut but if that happens you just drill it out and start over.
Clever! A tip, if you have problems with the threads stripping on the bolt, or the bolt breaking purchase a higher quality bolt. Hardware store bolts are garbage. Years ago I had seat post adjusting bolt problem as the threads kept stripping. I found a store that carried military surplus fasteners and purchased a few bolts that originally had been used on fighter jets. That was the end of that problem!
I’ve been using rivnuts since i found them in 2007. I had no idea there was a tool to install them so I simply use 2 washers, lubricated, & a high strength cap screw with a nut. Hold the caps crew as per video & perform the Same action with the nut. The nut turns the upper washer while the lower washer “sticks” to the rivnut flange when the pressure increases & the Same outcome happens. Just undo the nut & both washers free up. Unscrew the caps crew & admire you “no-tool” rivnut insertion.
This Helped me out tons. No one else's videos address the problem of the Rivnut spinning with the jamb nut and unscrewing from the installation bolt..Great solution!!
You're welcome, glad we helped out!
Great idea. I need to bolt a custom roof rack to my wagon.
This will be better than buying a decent rivnut puller.
That's great to hear, glad it helped out!
Thanks! I was lost on how to tighten up a loose rivnut for a bottle cage mount on an old bicycle. This worked!
Awesome, glad we helped you!
Man this help out seeing this in the field ….. I had the part but didn’t know how to replace it
Thanks !!
Glad it helped you out, and thanks for the comment!
I knew I’d find away on here ... saved 30£ for the gun ..thank you very much 👍🏼
Awesome, glad I could help! Thanks for the comment as well.
Been using a horn bracket to install the inserts for 20+ years lol have 2 of em, fast n easy.
I don't use an extra nut, just a flat washer, then I don't need 2 wrenches to tighten it up and get nice & tight fit in the hole
Thanks for the great job very simple and easy appreciations and thanks once again for saving me time 🙏👍🇩🇰
Good tip! i nherited a Used WorkVan that had Commercially purchased shelving and Storage racks in it utilizing those RivNuts and i stripped those to install Custom made Shelving built by me those Riv Nuts were a pain in the backside to remove and I just ran new Sheet Metal self tapping Screws into the Vans wall reinforcing Ribs that held those shelves in place for 25 years and 150,000 miles at that time i had no intention or need to purchase the RivNut tool or system
Nice idea. I’ve got a couple of suggestions, a ratchet ring spanner would make things easier and a few high grade bolts would make it less likely that the bolt would snap when tightening up the rivnut.
Go to your nearest industrial fastener supplier and purchase suitable high tensile capscrews/allen head screws (machine bolts). These will exceed anything you can get at a bigbox retailer.
The bolt he is using is a cap screw, one of the most high tensile bolts you can get over the counter but yes a ratchet spanner is easier.
Thanks. You saved me money and disappointment in a cheap tool. I only have a couple of rivet nuts to do and was about to waste money on a low quality rivet nut tool.
I have been using this idea for the last forty years, especially when installing 5/8 size on trucks and earth moving equipment.
I’d love to see that operation! I’m struggling with 3/8”.
Good solution! This will work in tight spaces where the rivnut tool doesn't fit.
Absolutely. Thanks for the comment!
This video was really helpful, as someone who is just starting his journey trying to DIY some things, I thank you :D
Porkchop porkchop, greasy greasy... Installed that rivnut fuckin easy easy! 😁
Big help! Much appreciated!! I was going to weld threads on my bike to install a second bottle cage. I don't have the skills to be confident enough to do it. Ran across this and got the whole job done for $11 (just the price of 150pc assorted rivnuts). Again, thanks!
good stuff, just a tip I noticed, your hand made tool with the holes, it could also work as a 90* angle and turned the handle bit down and let it jam against the frame so u didn't need to hold it. just a though.
Good call! Yes I have another tool I made that I use just like that.
This has solved a few of our issues on our 'square drop mini camper build' !!!!!
Awesome to hear!
Genius, man. Absolutely, brilliant.
That was very useful information. If ever I need to use a Rivnut, I will remember this. One thing I would suggest that you didn't mention, is to use a high tensile bolt. All the best from Queensland Australia.
Great tip!
Great video, easy simple tool, I’ve been considering buying a rivnut gun but not now!
Awesome, thanks for the comment and great to hear it helped you out.
Saved my bacon with this video, thanks a TON!
I used to use Rivnuts back in the 1960's. Back then, they were patented by Goodyear. All it takes to install them is a Grade 8 screw of the right thread, and a high strength nut.
Brilliant - I’m now subscribed 😉 cheers Chris “The Aussie living in the Netherlands” 👍🇦🇺
Welcome aboard!
Just finished my first run using your method, works great! thanks for sharing, your got my sub.
Thanks for the sub! Awesome to hear we helped you out...... Have fun!!!
Nice thanks for this. You can also use simple rings instead of the custom tool, same principle works well too.
Am building a kit plane. Thanks for this info plus comment about brass washers. Rivnuts very useful items where you can't get a spanner behind to do up or undo the nut that holds the bolt. Thus you can secure a piece of equipment such as an instrument to a sheet of metal and it is then very easy to take it off and put back when required for servicing etc.
A rivitnut gun was going to be my next tool purchase won't bother now excellent vid.
Awesome, a gun is still worth having if you do lots. but this is a nice simple hack for the odd couple here and there. and also for repairing loose rivnuts. Thanks for watching and the comment though!
Thank you so much. You saved me much frustration and another wasted trip to the hardware store 😳
Awesome. Glad it helped you out.
Thanks for the method. I only need to do a few every so often, so buying another $30CAD tool seems a waste. Your method saves me the trouble. Hello from Canada
Glad to help. And thanks for the comment!
wow. cool simple. that took more wrench bites than i would have thought.
Son of a diddly. Actually very useful YT video. Thanks. I've thought couple times that you likely could do jig yourself for them, but never got rivet nuts to try. That's maybe the easiest setup there can be. Good job 👍👍
Glad you liked it. 👍😉
Yeah great I'm stoked. Screw those Chinese riv nut tools. Top video
Great job. Thanks for sharing your idea.
Great idea. "Threading" is the term for creating a thread. The proper term for removing it by over tightening is "stripping the thread".
Tapping a thread is the term you mean.
Ahh? It's fred.
Thank you watching your video has helped me take care
Glad it helped
brilliant and good to know we use the same tools!
Brilliant video! Many thanks. You have saved me money.
Awesome, thanks for watching!
Definitely going to try this. Thanks for sharing.
I made the same tool but use a star washer between the top of the rivnut and the bottom of the tool. This holds the rivnut from spinning while you tighten the bolt. Much easier to hold onto when drawing the nut up.
Good video...Thanks. I normally jusy use a washer between nut and rivnut,,,no handle needed
Thanks, yes a washer works, but I found times when the Rivnut would spin as well. So the tool stops that from ever happening. 👍
Thanks for telling the cheap tools a junk,for the few I have to do. good grade 8 bolt will do the job.
Right on
Is that a wall clock on your wrist! Holly cow! 😂
Kool video though thanks for tip!!! Handy dandy!!
Everyone's drawn to the watch. I should have done a promotion deal. 😂
Great explanation Sir. Thanks a lot!
Great video, great info, thanks for sharing. Cheers
the rivnut tool is less than $40 these days for a decent one. totally worth the investment
You don't really need the 2mm metal strip. Just use some washers on the rivnut and under the nut works fine too.
this will start winding the rivnut down the bolt which is exactly what you don't want.
@@jrs4516 never had this experience
JCB using these on to hold everything inside the cab, and half the S.O.B. will spin, and Paccar use them to hold the cab lights on the trucks and the same thing there. They have their use but if your using a lot of these is time saver to buy the tool, if one or once an a while do it like you doing.
Sir thank you much, building my roof rack didn't want to buy a tool I would use once or twice in life🔩🚐
Happy to help. Good luck with the build!
I figured this out in a tight spot jam works better then the tool more control. 👍
Right on
Useful for persons who have a need for rivnuts, but don't have the 30$ to buy the tool to install them
was looking for a way to do this without buying that tool. Thanks and subswcribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Great stuff, just what I need and about my fabrication skill level !
Glad it was helpful!
M8, you just saved me 80 dollars. You got a new suscriptor, cheers.
Glad it helped you out 👍 thanks for the sub!
Awesome, just saved me buying a tool.
Cheers
What ever bolt/nut size you want to use for this it needs to be grade 8. I tried this with standard #10 size screw and the threads on the screw I used all but stripped on the first riv-nut I set. Also use molly grease on the screw threads. In reality, the tool I make next for this will be tool steel, I will cut the threads and then harden it. I will probably just buy a set on mandrels for a quality nut setting tool as if those are going to last more then a few sets they have to be darn good grade of steel properly hardened.
A high tensile bolt is a good idea.
Thanks mate 👍just what I need all the best 👌👍
A washer or 2 would help, I got a few flat load bearings of different sizes, and use 1 between 2 washers below the bolt
I do the same it makes it much easier.
Thanks for this My new rivnut tool broke today (partly from my harsh handling and partly because it was made from Chinese cheese) So i made one like yours and this saved my day today.
Hi Fin. Yep that is exactly why I ended up coming up with this. I got fed up with breaking M4 attachments on cheap rivnut tools. Glad It helped you out buddy!
Lovely job! Shame I just went and brought a tool lol.