If installing into a surface where you can't see behind it, when do you know to stop tightening? I guess the answer is when the brass thread within the rubber well nut reaches the flange? If so, how do you stop/prevent the stainless steel bolt from stripping the brass thread?
Any suggestion on how to prevent the rubber well nut from spinning if you can't get your hand behind the metal to hold it? I have a 73-87 Chevy truck and the cargo lamp is secured with well nuts but the rubber just spins and spins and doesn't catch like your example. I can't use a nut-sert as those are metal and would cause a ground issue. I've tried contact cement but that also didn't work.
I have a question. For installing a pedestal seat on the wooden floor, would you use this or another type of fastener? It’s a square base and I’m putting it on a larger piece of plywood, which will be fastend to the floor.
Helpful to see his. I wonder how much to tighten when you cannot see the backside. Can over tightening it make it faulty? Considering this for an RV roof solar panel.
I used them to hold a LED camp strip light to underside of fiberglass ute tub hard cover ,couldn't use nut rivets as fiberglass layer on underside is very thin ,
I’m looking to put an anchor point on the rear of my kayak to use to pull someone on a river tube out to the middle of a lake. Do you think these would be strong enough to hold? The anchor point takes 4. Just debating if we’ll nuts would work. I don’t have access to the back of my hull it’s sealed off can’t get my hand anywhere to put nuts on bolts etc.
Does quality vary between brands? I picked up a bunch of these at Lowe's to install an anchor trolley and outriggers. They pulled through immediately. And repeatedly over subsequent attempts. ???
Quality can vary between brands, but it's also possible that the well nuts you are using don't have sufficient pullout resistance for your application. If it's happening this consistently, consider using larger well nuts or a different fastener altogether such as epdm backed pop rivets.
great video, thank you. question, I currently have these installed on my kayak since I can't access the hull. They have been installed for about a year now. I was getting ready to make some modifications to the kayak and noticed I had water in the hull. I need to figure out which well nut is leaking. If I remove the screws in the well nuts, can the well nuts be re-used, or do I need to replace with all new? If screwing by hand, how will I know when it is tight enough since I can't see the back side?
It's generally not advisable to re-use well nuts. Uninstalling them will make the rubber weaker and less able to hold onto your materials. As for your second question, if you are installing them by hand, then treat it like you would any other screw; by screwing it in until it won't turn anymore.
QUESTION: Won't using a 316 stainless well nut in a marine application result in "crevice corrosion" (i.e., short to medium term rusting) of the threaded shank, and the underhead surface of the bolt or screw, since, once installed, those areas will be starved of oxygen, and therefore won't allow the chromium oxide layer to replenish itself to ensure continued passivization?
Yes great type of fastener but I've had problems removing them after a period of time where the screw has corroded and the wellnut spins in its hole . This was a problem when I had no access to the back of my motorcycle cowling and only option was to drill the screw head which would spin around under force , I ended up damaging the cowl ! Any solution to this problem ?
Hm...You can try sticking a piece of painter's tape or duct tape over the screw head to keep it still for drilling out. That might work. We've used similar methods for removing spinning pop rivets in our other videos: th-cam.com/video/4TwmQfbKsh8/w-d-xo.html
You have to make sure the neoprene nut is long enough to go through all the materials, which is something they are not showing you.. Like 1/8 inch for the plastic whatever as well as the kayak or material you're attaching to. That's the main issue with these that I've seen.
How is the grip on these fasteners? Could you pull something loose that is tightened down? You mentioned pull thru is an issue. Will the back end of the insert pop out at all? Thinking about using these for a license plate bumper protector on a plastic car bumper where the backside is not accessible. Any help or advice is appreciated.
If this is the kind of thing you are installing on your vehicle, amzn.to/2CyuB26, than well nuts should be fine for this application. The issue with pull through is because the only thing holding the well nut in place is rubber. Since the license plate bumper protector should only experience pressure from pushing rather than pulling, than this may be a good use of well nuts. Because this is going on a car, where vibration is constant, we would also recommend using a mild threadlocker, such as www.albanycountyfasteners.com/threadlocker-Solution-10-10-p/1050-132.htm, on the screws.
The screw has to be at least as long as the well nut you are installing. The actual insert that the screw fastens into to pull the well nut down is only at the very end of the well nut.
I'd be hesitant to use this in salt water as the steel screw will be destroyed by electrolysis when mated with a brass receiving nut. Of course the simple way around this would be to use a 1/4 x 20 machine screw and brass washer.
how do you get these off when the rubber fails to hold to the nut and just spin, and you can't get pliers to the back end? have like 20 of these that are all just spinning on a jet ski and can't remove them
If it's already loose, try using vice grips to grab on to the "head" of the exposed well nut and pull it out. If you're still having trouble, please call our support line - 866-573-0445 or send an email to support@rawproductscorp.com with images of your problem.
A chart of all the hole sizes for the various sizes of well nuts can be found on our website here: www.albanycountyfasteners.com/epdm-rubber-brass-insert-well-nuts-p/1111-146.htm
This would be perfect for plugging a hole in your gas tank after someone has drilled into it to steal gas. At least it would get you home or to a shop to properly repair or replace the tank.
Would you be happy using these to fasten solar panels to a camper van roof? , as leakage could cause a lot of damage to the insulation and be undetected for quite some time.
Well nuts would stop any kind of leakage from the roof of the van, but they may have trouble holding the panels down against the drag from driving the van. We'd advise using whatever the manufacturer of the panels recommends.
this thing saved me from pulling riding mower engine. nut came off bolt that was hidden under engine. there was no way was i going to pull that engine it would have taken me a couple days and heart ache.....popped in a 5/16 well nut and in 20 minutes back on the lawn I went.
You can find Well Nuts in SAE & Metric Sizes on our website here: www.albanycountyfasteners.com/Nuts-s/279.htm?Per_Page=12&Sort_By=disp_order&f_product_type=Well%20Nuts
The machine screw used to fasten a well nut to a workpiece causes the well nut to compress and expand as the screw is tightened. Look at 2:47 for a more visual explanation. As soon as the screw becomes flush against the well nut, the compression and "bulging" begin. As far as we are aware, the well nuts on your Kawasaki Ninja work the same way.
The insert may be slipping from the rubber part of the well nut. Have you tried another well nut? If they were from us, please let us know so we can reach out to our manufacturer regarding this issue.
@@AlbanyCountyFasteners I have no intention of purchasing another wellnut as bad as these are. These, I believe, came from Clips and Fasteners in Anaheim, Cal.
Great video. Told me exactly what I needed to know. Going to use some well nuts to mount my license plate. Thanks!
If installing into a surface where you can't see behind it, when do you know to stop tightening? I guess the answer is when the brass thread within the rubber well nut reaches the flange? If so, how do you stop/prevent the stainless steel bolt from stripping the brass thread?
Can you discuss weight loads per different sizes??
Thank you for showing these. I've been trying to find a good demo like this for hours. Much appreciated.
Which well nuts have the maximum rear expansion so I am less likely to have pull through?
Any suggestion on how to prevent the rubber well nut from spinning if you can't get your hand behind the metal to hold it? I have a 73-87 Chevy truck and the cargo lamp is secured with well nuts but the rubber just spins and spins and doesn't catch like your example. I can't use a nut-sert as those are metal and would cause a ground issue. I've tried contact cement but that also didn't work.
I have a question. For installing a pedestal seat on the wooden floor, would you use this or another type of fastener? It’s a square base and I’m putting it on a larger piece of plywood, which will be fastend to the floor.
Can these be used on fiberglass with a backing plate?
my motocycle windshield has these, but the well wont fit through the hole and i dont know how they even got those on it
Perfect demonstration, its exactly what i was searching for, for the installation of an anchor trolley set up, for my kayak
thanks very much👍👍
You're welcome! Thank you for your feedback.
Thanks for explaining how these actually work 😀
Got anything for luggage racks for mini vans?
Glad I just found out these existed before going with the rivnuts.thanks.
Helpful to see his. I wonder how much to tighten when you cannot see the backside. Can over tightening it make it faulty? Considering this for an RV roof solar panel.
I used them to hold a LED camp strip light to underside of fiberglass ute tub hard cover ,couldn't use nut rivets as fiberglass layer on underside is very thin ,
You mentioned pull throught so then what is the strength on these?
Excellent and informative video.
Excellent video. Thanks!
Would you think wellnuts will work to attach metal roof snow guard rail to corrugated metal garage roof? Able to stand cold winters and hot summers.
Yes, absolutely
Hi Bob , can the well nuts work on a rv roof camper made of vinyl and 3/8 plywood
Can I use this to mating automotive body kits to fiberglass/ plastics??
I am attaching support brackets in 1/8 inch wood paneling in my RV trailer. I cannot access the backside. Will a well nut be applicable?
Can you use these for a plastic gas tank?
Can you use these well nuts to fill in a drilled out gas tank?
IDK
I’m looking to put an anchor point on the rear of my kayak to use to pull someone on a river tube out to the middle of a lake. Do you think these would be strong enough to hold? The anchor point takes 4. Just debating if we’ll nuts would work. I don’t have access to the back of my hull it’s sealed off can’t get my hand anywhere to put nuts on bolts etc.
I always wondered how those well nuts work. Now I know. Thanks.
Glad we could shed some light on the subject! Thank you for your feedback.
License plate you dont want to rattle or in brittle fiberglass
I needed to know how it worked and you told me. Many thanks!
You're welcome! Thank you for your feedback.
Great easy info! Need to purchase for installing my kayak troller.
Thank you for your feedback!
Awesome. I had never heard of a Well Nut glad I watched the video and learned something new.
Thank you for your feedback!
can i use this on a car roof im trying to install a bike rack
Does quality vary between brands? I picked up a bunch of these at Lowe's to install an anchor trolley and outriggers. They pulled through immediately. And repeatedly over subsequent attempts. ???
Quality can vary between brands, but it's also possible that the well nuts you are using don't have sufficient pullout resistance for your application. If it's happening this consistently, consider using larger well nuts or a different fastener altogether such as epdm backed pop rivets.
great video, thank you. question, I currently have these installed on my kayak since I can't access the hull. They have been installed for about a year now. I was getting ready to make some modifications to the kayak and noticed I had water in the hull. I need to figure out which well nut is leaking. If I remove the screws in the well nuts, can the well nuts be re-used, or do I need to replace with all new? If screwing by hand, how will I know when it is tight enough since I can't see the back side?
It's generally not advisable to re-use well nuts. Uninstalling them will make the rubber weaker and less able to hold onto your materials. As for your second question, if you are installing them by hand, then treat it like you would any other screw; by screwing it in until it won't turn anymore.
Thank you for the useful video
Thank you. So you tighten all the way till they expand no wonder mine became lose
QUESTION: Won't using a 316 stainless well nut in a marine application result in "crevice corrosion" (i.e., short to medium term rusting) of the threaded shank, and the underhead surface of the bolt or screw, since, once installed, those areas will be starved of oxygen, and therefore won't allow the chromium oxide layer to replenish itself to ensure continued passivization?
Perhaps putting some Teff Gel on the screw will solve this?
Can you reuse them? i.e. can you unfasten, change the material, then refasten with the same well nut?
You can reuse well nuts, but eventually the rubber will wear out from repeated installation and uninstallation.
Thank you!!! great video.
Just what I was Looking for!!!!!!
You're welcome! Thank you for your feedback.
Yes great type of fastener but I've had problems removing them after a period of time where the screw has corroded and the wellnut spins in its hole . This was a problem when I had no access to the back of my motorcycle cowling and only option was to drill the screw head which would spin around under force , I ended up damaging the cowl !
Any solution to this problem ?
Hm...You can try sticking a piece of painter's tape or duct tape over the screw head to keep it still for drilling out. That might work. We've used similar methods for removing spinning pop rivets in our other videos: th-cam.com/video/4TwmQfbKsh8/w-d-xo.html
You have to make sure the neoprene nut is long enough to go through all the materials, which is something they are not showing you.. Like 1/8 inch for the plastic whatever as well as the kayak or material you're attaching to. That's the main issue with these that I've seen.
This is true of most rivet nuts. Thank you for your feedback!
You should do it inside like a cup and put water,to see how water proof it is
I wonder if it's waterproof
How is the grip on these fasteners? Could you pull something loose that is tightened down? You mentioned pull thru is an issue. Will the back end of the insert pop out at all? Thinking about using these for a license plate bumper protector on a plastic car bumper where the backside is not accessible. Any help or advice is appreciated.
If this is the kind of thing you are installing on your vehicle, amzn.to/2CyuB26, than well nuts should be fine for this application. The issue with pull through is because the only thing holding the well nut in place is rubber. Since the license plate bumper protector should only experience pressure from pushing rather than pulling, than this may be a good use of well nuts.
Because this is going on a car, where vibration is constant, we would also recommend using a mild threadlocker, such as www.albanycountyfasteners.com/threadlocker-Solution-10-10-p/1050-132.htm, on the screws.
Thanks
is it reusable
can I use a shorter screw
The screw has to be at least as long as the well nut you are installing. The actual insert that the screw fastens into to pull the well nut down is only at the very end of the well nut.
I'd be hesitant to use this in salt water as the steel screw will be destroyed by electrolysis when mated with a brass receiving nut. Of course the simple way around this would be to use a 1/4 x 20 machine screw and brass washer.
Thank, installing on a Volkswagen that doesn't include a license plate frame. Thanks again.
Hi! Had you installed your plate on VW already? It was ok using these rivet rubbers? Thanks
@@MrDzanetty Yes totally was, got them from Ace hardware. Good luck.
@@FLJAMESFL thank you! Which size did you use? M5 or M6?
how do you get these off when the rubber fails to hold to the nut and just spin, and you can't get pliers to the back end? have like 20 of these that are all just spinning on a jet ski and can't remove them
If it's already loose, try using vice grips to grab on to the "head" of the exposed well nut and pull it out. If you're still having trouble, please call our support line - 866-573-0445 or send an email to support@rawproductscorp.com with images of your problem.
Well what size hole do I drill? I want to buy a dozen.
A chart of all the hole sizes for the various sizes of well nuts can be found on our website here: www.albanycountyfasteners.com/epdm-rubber-brass-insert-well-nuts-p/1111-146.htm
You should make them in silicone and 3/16 stainless. I know a certain guy who would buy them. His name is Sam
This would be perfect for plugging a hole in your gas tank after someone has drilled into it to steal gas. At least it would get you home or to a shop to properly repair or replace the tank.
wow... impressive and nice fastener!! I was trying to figure out the attach mechanism... thanks a lot!!
You're welcome! Thank you for your feedback!
Ordered some of the m5, and m6 for a body kit I'm gonna install on my 4g Eclipse
Neat! Thank you for your feedback.
How did the install go with these parts?!?
Would you recommend these to install a fuel sending unit in a fuel tank
I don't know how the rubber will hold up.
Would you be happy using these to fasten solar panels to a camper van roof? , as leakage could cause a lot of damage to the insulation and be undetected for quite some time.
Well nuts would stop any kind of leakage from the roof of the van, but they may have trouble holding the panels down against the drag from driving the van. We'd advise using whatever the manufacturer of the panels recommends.
this thing saved me from pulling riding mower engine. nut came off bolt that was hidden under engine. there was no way was i going to pull that engine it would have taken me a couple days and heart ache.....popped in a 5/16 well nut and in 20 minutes back on the lawn I went.
Glad a well nut could help you out of the jam! Thank you for your feedback.
Where do you get these ?
You can find Well Nuts in SAE & Metric Sizes on our website here: www.albanycountyfasteners.com/Nuts-s/279.htm?Per_Page=12&Sort_By=disp_order&f_product_type=Well%20Nuts
Thank you!
You're using both hands to tighten it down. Most people use these where they have zero access to the back side.
2:17 can't reach the nut with shorter screw
Great information video . Sean uk
Thank you for your feedback.
How do they stay bulged up like they are on my kawasaki ninja?
The machine screw used to fasten a well nut to a workpiece causes the well nut to compress and expand as the screw is tightened. Look at 2:47 for a more visual explanation. As soon as the screw becomes flush against the well nut, the compression and "bulging" begin.
As far as we are aware, the well nuts on your Kawasaki Ninja work the same way.
I want to use them to mount my license plate
I got some from amazon (10-32) and none of them would install. The nut side would turn as I tightened the bolt
The insert may be slipping from the rubber part of the well nut. Have you tried another well nut? If they were from us, please let us know so we can reach out to our manufacturer regarding this issue.
@@AlbanyCountyFasteners I have no intention of purchasing another wellnut as bad as these are. These, I believe, came from Clips and Fasteners in Anaheim, Cal.
Bruce G couldn’t you put a dab of rubber cement on the nut?
Use playback speed 1.75x for Minnesota speed
Thank you for your feedback.
This doesn't look like a standard M size
Why would I like share subscribe your video before even watching it? C'mon Bob.
I hate trying to remove these things.
Thanks
You're Welcome.
+0:41 Watch out man, there's a train coming at you.
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