Thank you so very much for this video. Hats off to you. My wife has a 2005 jeep grand cherokee 3.7l and it's doin the same thing. I have changed the starter 3 times within a year and a half and it will be fine for awhile and then out of nowhere it would start doing the same thing again. I have also changed the relay a couple times to. I'm gonna do this when I get home. Thank you so very much cause this jeep is about to male me lose my mind lol.
Thanks for your comment. Yes, shorting the contact points of the relay will let you know if the starter will work. Is can be a way to emergency start you car. You need someone to turn the key to start position and someone to short the relay points. When it starts have person at key let go to normal run position. This would get you home.
Great video worked like a charm. Was having no start issues for a few months has gotten worse every week. Alternator died and replaced it went to start no start just click. Found this video and bam only could get a little wiggle but was enough to start.
@13thslinky I have been where you are trying to get. I have a number of videos covering this problem. Wiggling the wire at starter solenoid is letting you know, the starter solenoid connection point is failing. You need to change the Starter. Wiggling wire will work for a month or so. Soon you will wiggle and no start. I have a couple of detailed videos on how to change out the starter. Just watch them and you can do it . You need small hands, lots of patience, and watch ALL OF MY VIDEOS. Good luck you have identified your no start problem.
@@samowens44 Just changed the starter today finally died, thanks for the videos helped a lot. Your 100% correct on a month or so worked for about 3 weeks. Didn't use any jacks or stands did it in front of my house got her done, not a super easy task without a lift but can be done.
@@13thslinky glad you got that behind you. Now just enjoy your Jeep. Oh, just one more issue you may encounter. Transmission high Temperature light comes on. I have a video that will help clear it. Search my TH-cam videos.
Thanks for comment Michael. It is comments like yours that will encourage others to look at your results and try theirs for solution. This is a very common problem for the Jeeps.
Sam im on the side of the road if you could answer me quick id be eternally grateful. If i remove relay and it kicks in the starter is it my relay for sure??
A suggestion is installing a 2nd heatshield. Either DIY by using some simple metal and bend it accordingly, and use the starter heatshield bolt to hold them both or mount is separately from the starter. I'm buying a 2005 Jeep WK that won't start. I really hope it's something simple like this.
I must b missing something or am just dumb but not f you do the relay test and the motor turns over doesn’t that mean the starter and solenoid connections are good? If so why would you go to the solenoid and mess with the wire?
@Ronnie Edwards, after much work diagnosing this problem over the years, I found there were two things that could get the Jeep cranked, Change the Relay did the job for a few years, then it got to where changing the relay did not get the Jeep to crank. Then I decided to go the the connection at the starter solenoid and see if the wire had a good connection. After moving the connection around, I found the Jeep would crank. When it did not crank, I giggle the wire and it would crank. Then one day, it did not crank no mater what. The relay test failed also. I changed the Starter out and Never had another days problem stating. My theroy is that the connection at the solenoid get a bad connection internially in the solenoid. When we giggle the wire, it is moving the terminal getting a good connection. I did not change the wire connector, so it is not the wire connection. Change out the Starter and your trouble should be corrected. That's what I think. In the beginning of this trouble, so many people said they took it to repair shops and they changed out the Starter. Later, it still had the same problem. This is a problem that plagues all Jeeps from 2005 through 2010. Hope this puts some light on the mystery. So many people in the beginning found changing the relay corrected the problem. It was the magic solution, then as my story goes it changed. Don't know what else to tell you. If you do something and it cranks you are happy don't question the whys.
Sam - I did the pliers in the holes and got sparks and a click with no crank on the starter. Jeep had intermittent no start for a couple years very infrequent. Last year around this time it wouldn't start for a couple of days. Moved and when I got to my new town Jeep refused to start. Started once more and has sat for 10 months with no start sometimes going to give it a try every couple months. I swapped relays and got nothing. I did the pliers trick and got sparks and a click but no crank. My next step is to get under it and loosen that 10mm bolt and wiggle that connector behind the heat shield, right? And if that fails to get results does that indicate a starter replacement? I just had the starter replaced winter of 2017-2018 and it has
@Jacob Williams, you are on the right track, when you put the pliers in the holes, that puts battery on the starter solenoid and if only sparks and just a click, means the starter solenoid is operating, but the contacts are not providing power to the starter or the starter is bad. Either way, you starter is bad as they are a unit together. the wire on the solenoid is good because you see sparks. Sorry to say, your starter is most likely bad. When the wire is corroded or loose connection on terminal, you would not get a loud click and big sparks. Good luck Jacob and thanks for your comments, it will help others.
@@cheddardaniel2796 I have a number of video that shows more than just the starter to be the problem. That is way this problem is hard to shoot for a solution. Not just one thing but a number. You need to review all my video for the Jeep 05 GC. I have a playlist find and review.
I had the problem with the connector on the starter to the point that I had to wiggle it almost every time I wanted to start the Jeep. I ended up cutting the wire in the fuse box under the relay and running a new wire to the starter. You can get decent access to the starter wires if you take off the inner fender. It's held on by 6-7 plastic clips and on my lifted Jeep I can take it off without removing the wheel. On one that isn't lifted there might not be enough room to do that so you may have to take the wheel off, which still is a lot better than removing the driveshaft.
SNS 1, thanks for your input for others to see your solution to the Click no Start problem. It is best if you can replace the connector if a simple wiggle does not produce good results with starting. I have even heard some will cut an area out with enough room to work on the connection. Then they attach the piece back together.
Yep started having this issue after the jeep broke on the highway has nothing to do with but just to add up more problems i took the wheel cover off and started smacking things with breaker bar i shorted the hot 12 volt to the chases i saw a small spark but then it worked i went some turned it off and it won't start again it has to be a loose or corroded cable I'll have to get under there and check it
Mo, I am not sure smacking things with a breaker bar is a good trouble shooting method. I do have another relay that deals with the start relay. This is another area that has something to do with the no start at times. Look at my playlist of Jeep troubles and you will find it. Good luck.
What if I did that but it still just clicks and it’s not the relay I replaced that with a brand new one still same click and I manually tried starting it with the pliers like you did and still clicked so what would you think? It’s the actual starter
Not sure what just happened to my jeep I was driving it all day today and went to turn it off then came back out from store now it won't start no crank no start like no noise does this mean my starter is gone
The '05 Grand Cherokee is the first year of the new body style. NEVER buy the first year of ANY body style. Mine with the 5.7 hemi and 4x4 has 92000 miles on it and I am NOT going to put a 6th starter on it. Mine does not "click" when starting, the blower motor for the AC/heat comes on full blast only. This starting problem is a known issue along with the front upper differential bushings wearing out prematurely. Thanks for the tips. I will give you an update after checking the relay first and then the junk connector at the starter. After 2 Mopar starters I went with Advance Auto and had better results for a while. The Mopar brand has a weak sound compared to the aftermarket ones and they always have.
@Colorado Strong, thanks for your comments. I know the feeling about being first. The 05 Jeep to the 2010 Jeeps have the starting and bushing problems causing intermittent start and clunking noise. I found that the Start Relay change will give good starting for a long period of time and also, wiggling the connector at the starter solenoid. will give good results for long periods. I must say a month ago, I finally had to change my starter. It would not crank at all and the solenoid was clicking. Now perfect cranks. The problems seem to be in all three areas. Starter Relay, Solenoid connector and finally the starter. Follow the suggestion above and I think you will be surprise at the results you get.
changed the starter changed the relay changed the wires. put a new connector on the signal wire all grounds are good i still just get a click at key turn the motor moves with each click of the starter
There is one more thing to check, the power lead that connects to the starter from the battery. May be a bad corrosion and just not delivering full current. Check the battery Positive connection and make sure it is bright and shinny clean and the clamp is fully tight. Also, you must have a fully charged battery.
Well, it is not the starter relay on my '05 Hemi, not the wiring at the starter and not the ignition switch either, so this is what I have narrowed it down to: the safety interlock switch (Park-Reverse-Neutral-Drive)) inside or on the bellhousing of the the transmission. When you turn the key to start, that switch allows power to go to the relay then to the starter. I took my starter relay apart and pressed on it to engage the starter and it worked great. I swapped the starter relay with one next to it but still nothing when turning the key. There is nothing out there for replacing this interlock switch and it seems to be something in the front of the transmission. It allows the Junk Jeep to start only while in Park or Neutral and also controls the backup lights. Even searching for the part online is hard and it is somewhere in the $180-$300 range. So the dealer is probably going to charge about a $1000 to replace the switch. And they want $1300 to replace the upper front differential bushings that have been worn out since I sold it to myself. I worked at a main Chrysler/Jeep dealer and sold this Junk Jeep to myself. And for those that have the '05 Hemi, the power steering pump controls not just the power steering but...your radiator and AC cooling fan under the hood. At the time they used the Hemi they did not have an electric cooling fan capable of cooling that size engine so they used the power steering pump to drive a hydraulic motor to cool the radiator. Have fun when that Junk overheats and they tell you that you need another hydraulic motor for that system.
@Colorado Strong, thank you for your detailed comment about the intermittent no start problem. I did not address the Reverse Neutral switch, as this will cause a different type problem. If the Rev Neut switch does not close, you will not get the start relay to operate at all. Most all the the problem corrections have been successful with replacing the relay, cleaning the Solenoid Contact connection at starter. For your case I would suggest this test to do: Have someone at the driver position to attempt a start. You are with your finger on the relay to push with your finger with cover removed. Push the relay and when the starter turns, have the person operate the key to start position. When and if Jeep starts, release the relay. If it starts, you have a problem in the operation of the start relay. Now there is one key relay, ASD, Automatic Shut Down, not mentioned that must operate. It is an emergency relay that shuts power down to major system. This relay not operating can cause the Jeep not to start even if all other indications are good. I have not mentioned it as it has not been in the subject of my corrective actions. It sound more like this relay may not be operating. You may want to look at this arear before you go the Rev Switch. Good luck, hope this will lead to a solutions.
So I did this last night. With the pliers in the wholes. Lol. And then the starter worked. I swapped the ac relay into the starter relay and my jeep started. This morning it wouldn't start. I took the relay out and then tried to see if the starter would turn. I got sparks but no noise from the start. 😭😭😭
@Stoned G & E, sounds like you have a bad connection at the starter Solenoid. You can try wiggling the connector. This will work for a while. You will need to look at my video on replacing the Starter. When you fail the pliers short test. It is time for the starter change out. Then you will be done with the problem. Good luck.
@@samowens44 yup!! I decide to replace the alternator began to under the bolt that has the wire to connect to the battery and the decided not to and tightened it back up. And it started. So I plan on replacing the wire that connects.
@@stonedge9570 I really believe that the problem with the intermittent start is caused by the solenoid. The fact you got lots of sparks from the pliers across the relay terminals means that you have a good connection at the solenoid terminal and the solenoid is operating. The problem could be the contacts inside the solenoid are carboned up or pitted. The contacts have to deliver a huge amount of current to the starter, if dirt, carbon, pits, the starter will not have enough to turn. If you don't relace the starter now, you will just be delaying it down the road very soon. That one attempt to start and only sparks tells me, bad starter. Just giving you the facts as I see them from what you have described. I don't think changing the connector will improve the condition.
357 bullfrog, I feel your problem is the battery terminals are not getting a good connection to your new battery. I suggest you take both battery terminals off and clean with a wire brush and get all of the corrosion off. You need to clean it down to the lead terminal shine. When you get a jump, the battery cables are clipping to the outside of your battery cables which are not corroded. You may even need to scrape the inside of the terminal with a sharp tool to get all the glazing off. sounds like yours are really bad. Good luck my friend, I think you are going to be amazed if you follow my advice. One more thing when you tighten the terminals, you should not be able to twist them at all, if you can tighten more.
Holy crap! That was awesome. Wiggle the wire. Start the Jeep. It saved my ass today. Kudos to you, sir.
Sam, You're a HELL OF A MAN & YOU HAVE A GREAT CHANNEL WITH LOTS OF KNOWLEDGE. T.Y. Sam, I'm a subscriber now, just found your channel Sir.
this guy is amazing! well spoken, researched. very good teacher i'd think. thanks for doing us all this favor!
This is the best video for this issue. Smart solutions! Love it.
Thank you so very much for this video. Hats off to you. My wife has a 2005 jeep grand cherokee 3.7l and it's doin the same thing. I have changed the starter 3 times within a year and a half and it will be fine for awhile and then out of nowhere it would start doing the same thing again. I have also changed the relay a couple times to. I'm gonna do this when I get home. Thank you so very much cause this jeep is about to male me lose my mind lol.
Shorting the starter fuse is really a good trick to troubleshoot the starter, thanks a lot !
Thanks for your comment. Yes, shorting the contact points of the relay will let you know if the starter will work. Is can be a way to emergency start you car. You need someone to turn the key to start position and someone to short the relay points. When it starts have person at key let go to normal run position. This would get you home.
Great video worked like a charm. Was having no start issues for a few months has gotten worse every week. Alternator died and replaced it went to start no start just click. Found this video and bam only could get a little wiggle but was enough to start.
@13thslinky I have been where you are trying to get. I have a number of videos covering this problem. Wiggling the wire at starter solenoid is letting you know, the starter solenoid connection point is failing. You need to change the Starter. Wiggling wire will work for a month or so. Soon you will wiggle and no start. I have a couple of detailed videos on how to change out the starter. Just watch them and you can do it . You need small hands, lots of patience, and watch ALL OF MY VIDEOS. Good luck you have identified your no start problem.
@@samowens44 Just changed the starter today finally died, thanks for the videos helped a lot. Your 100% correct on a month or so worked for about 3 weeks. Didn't use any jacks or stands did it in front of my house got her done, not a super easy task without a lift but can be done.
@@13thslinky glad you got that behind you. Now just enjoy your Jeep. Oh, just one more issue you may encounter. Transmission high Temperature light comes on. I have a video that will help clear it. Search my TH-cam videos.
Thanks Sam, working on it tomorrow!!!
Thanks Sam! I had the exact same problem and thanks to your video I cleaned the coil wire on starter and works fine.
Thanks for comment Michael. It is comments like yours that will encourage others to look at your results and try theirs for solution. This is a very common problem for the Jeeps.
Sam im on the side of the road if you could answer me quick id be eternally grateful. If i remove relay and it kicks in the starter is it my relay for sure??
@@davidemmons4614 you need to look at more of my videos on the no start issue. I have other things that will help. Look for my playlist.
A suggestion is installing a 2nd heatshield. Either DIY by using some simple metal and bend it accordingly, and use the starter heatshield bolt to hold them both or mount is separately from the starter.
I'm buying a 2005 Jeep WK that won't start. I really hope it's something simple like this.
I must b missing something or am just dumb but not f you do the relay test and the motor turns over doesn’t that mean the starter and solenoid connections are good? If so why would you go to the solenoid and mess with the wire?
@Ronnie Edwards, after much work diagnosing this problem over the years, I found there were two things that could get the Jeep cranked, Change the Relay did the job for a few years, then it got to where changing the relay did not get the Jeep to crank. Then I decided to go the the connection at the starter solenoid and see if the wire had a good connection. After moving the connection around, I found the Jeep would crank. When it did not crank, I giggle the wire and it would crank. Then one day, it did not crank no mater what. The relay test failed also. I changed the Starter out and Never had another days problem stating. My theroy is that the connection at the solenoid get a bad connection internially in the solenoid. When we giggle the wire, it is moving the terminal getting a good connection. I did not change the wire connector, so it is not the wire connection. Change out the Starter and your trouble should be corrected. That's what I think. In the beginning of this trouble, so many people said they took it to repair shops and they changed out the Starter. Later, it still had the same problem. This is a problem that plagues all Jeeps from 2005 through 2010. Hope this puts some light on the mystery. So many people in the beginning found changing the relay corrected the problem. It was the magic solution, then as my story goes it changed. Don't know what else to tell you. If you do something and it cranks you are happy don't question the whys.
Sam - I did the pliers in the holes and got sparks and a click with no crank on the starter. Jeep had intermittent no start for a couple years very infrequent. Last year around this time it wouldn't start for a couple of days. Moved and when I got to my new town Jeep refused to start. Started once more and has sat for 10 months with no start sometimes going to give it a try every couple months.
I swapped relays and got nothing. I did the pliers trick and got sparks and a click but no crank. My next step is to get under it and loosen that 10mm bolt and wiggle that connector behind the heat shield, right? And if that fails to get results does that indicate a starter replacement? I just had the starter replaced winter of 2017-2018 and it has
@Jacob Williams, you are on the right track, when you put the pliers in the holes, that puts battery on the starter solenoid and if only sparks and just a click, means the starter solenoid is operating, but the contacts are not providing power to the starter or the starter is bad. Either way, you starter is bad as they are a unit together. the wire on the solenoid is good because you see sparks. Sorry to say, your starter is most likely bad. When the wire is corroded or loose connection on terminal, you would not get a loud click and big sparks. Good luck Jacob and thanks for your comments, it will help others.
@@samowens44 i just commented up further but i have the same issue however my starter is brand new bench tested at the parts store
@@cheddardaniel2796 I have a number of video that shows more than just the starter to be the problem. That is way this problem is hard to shoot for a solution. Not just one thing but a number. You need to review all my video for the Jeep 05 GC. I have a playlist find and review.
I had the problem with the connector on the starter to the point that I had to wiggle it almost every time I wanted to start the Jeep. I ended up cutting the wire in the fuse box under the relay and running a new wire to the starter.
You can get decent access to the starter wires if you take off the inner fender. It's held on by 6-7 plastic clips and on my lifted Jeep I can take it off without removing the wheel. On one that isn't lifted there might not be enough room to do that so you may have to take the wheel off, which still is a lot better than removing the driveshaft.
SNS 1, thanks for your input for others to see your solution to the Click no Start problem. It is best if you can replace the connector if a simple wiggle does not produce good results with starting. I have even heard some will cut an area out with enough room to work on the connection. Then they attach the piece back together.
Yep started having this issue after the jeep broke on the highway has nothing to do with but just to add up more problems i took the wheel cover off and started smacking things with breaker bar i shorted the hot 12 volt to the chases i saw a small spark but then it worked i went some turned it off and it won't start again it has to be a loose or corroded cable I'll have to get under there and check it
Mo, I am not sure smacking things with a breaker bar is a good trouble shooting method. I do have another relay that deals with the start relay. This is another area that has something to do with the no start at times. Look at my playlist of Jeep troubles and you will find it. Good luck.
What if I did that but it still just clicks and it’s not the relay I replaced that with a brand new one still same click and I manually tried starting it with the pliers like you did and still clicked so what would you think? It’s the actual starter
@BigTrappBenzo you are now cleared for starter replacement. Look at my playlist for several video on how I changed out mine.
Not sure what just happened to my jeep I was driving it all day today and went to turn it off then came back out from store now it won't start no crank no start like no noise does this mean my starter is gone
I have several videos along with this one that explains and shows how to test the starting system. Please search and watch.
The '05 Grand Cherokee is the first year of the new body style. NEVER buy the first year of ANY body style. Mine with the 5.7 hemi and 4x4 has 92000 miles on it and I am NOT going to put a 6th starter on it. Mine does not "click" when starting, the blower motor for the AC/heat comes on full blast only. This starting problem is a known issue along with the front upper differential bushings wearing out prematurely. Thanks for the tips. I will give you an update after checking the relay first and then the junk connector at the starter. After 2 Mopar starters I went with Advance Auto and had better results for a while. The Mopar brand has a weak sound compared to the aftermarket ones and they always have.
@Colorado Strong, thanks for your comments. I know the feeling about being first. The 05 Jeep to the 2010 Jeeps have the starting and bushing problems causing intermittent start and clunking noise. I found that the Start Relay change will give good starting for a long period of time and also, wiggling the connector at the starter solenoid. will give good results for long periods. I must say a month ago, I finally had to change my starter. It would not crank at all and the solenoid was clicking. Now perfect cranks. The problems seem to be in all three areas. Starter Relay, Solenoid connector and finally the starter. Follow the suggestion above and I think you will be surprise at the results you get.
changed the starter changed the relay changed the wires. put a new connector on the signal wire all grounds are good i still just get a click at key turn the motor moves with each click of the starter
There is one more thing to check, the power lead that connects to the starter from the battery. May be a bad corrosion and just not delivering full current. Check the battery Positive connection and make sure it is bright and shinny clean and the clamp is fully tight. Also, you must have a fully charged battery.
Well, it is not the starter relay on my '05 Hemi, not the wiring at the starter and not the ignition switch either, so this is what I have narrowed it down to: the safety interlock switch (Park-Reverse-Neutral-Drive)) inside or on the bellhousing of the the transmission. When you turn the key to start, that switch allows power to go to the relay then to the starter. I took my starter relay apart and pressed on it to engage the starter and it worked great. I swapped the starter relay with one next to it but still nothing when turning the key. There is nothing out there for replacing this interlock switch and it seems to be something in the front of the transmission. It allows the Junk Jeep to start only while in Park or Neutral and also controls the backup lights. Even searching for the part online is hard and it is somewhere in the $180-$300 range. So the dealer is probably going to charge about a $1000 to replace the switch. And they want $1300 to replace the upper front differential bushings that have been worn out since I sold it to myself. I worked at a main Chrysler/Jeep dealer and sold this Junk Jeep to myself. And for those that have the '05 Hemi, the power steering pump controls not just the power steering but...your radiator and AC cooling fan under the hood. At the time they used the Hemi they did not have an electric cooling fan capable of cooling that size engine so they used the power steering pump to drive a hydraulic motor to cool the radiator. Have fun when that Junk overheats and they tell you that you need another hydraulic motor for that system.
@Colorado Strong, thank you for your detailed comment about the intermittent no start problem. I did not address the Reverse Neutral switch, as this will cause a different type problem. If the Rev Neut switch does not close, you will not get the start relay to operate at all. Most all the the problem corrections have been successful with replacing the relay, cleaning the Solenoid Contact connection at starter. For your case I would suggest this test to do:
Have someone at the driver position to attempt a start. You are with your finger on the relay to push with your finger with cover removed. Push the relay and when the starter turns, have the person operate the key to start position. When and if Jeep starts, release the relay. If it starts, you have a problem in the operation of the start relay. Now there is one key relay, ASD, Automatic Shut Down, not mentioned that must operate. It is an emergency relay that shuts power down to major system. This relay not operating can cause the Jeep not to start even if all other indications are good. I have not mentioned it as it has not been in the subject of my corrective actions. It sound more like this relay may not be operating. You may want to look at this arear before you go the Rev Switch. Good luck, hope this will lead to a solutions.
So I did this last night. With the pliers in the wholes. Lol. And then the starter worked. I swapped the ac relay into the starter relay and my jeep started. This morning it wouldn't start. I took the relay out and then tried to see if the starter would turn. I got sparks but no noise from the start. 😭😭😭
@Stoned G & E, sounds like you have a bad connection at the starter Solenoid. You can try wiggling the connector. This will work for a while. You will need to look at my video on replacing the Starter. When you fail the pliers short test. It is time for the starter change out. Then you will be done with the problem. Good luck.
@@samowens44 yup!! I decide to replace the alternator began to under the bolt that has the wire to connect to the battery and the decided not to and tightened it back up. And it started. So I plan on replacing the wire that connects.
@@stonedge9570 I really believe that the problem with the intermittent start is caused by the solenoid. The fact you got lots of sparks from the pliers across the relay terminals means that you have a good connection at the solenoid terminal and the solenoid is operating. The problem could be the contacts inside the solenoid are carboned up or pitted. The contacts have to deliver a huge amount of current to the starter, if dirt, carbon, pits, the starter will not have enough to turn. If you don't relace the starter now, you will just be delaying it down the road very soon. That one attempt to start and only sparks tells me, bad starter. Just giving you the facts as I see them from what you have described. I don't think changing the connector will improve the condition.
Mine has a brand new battery and will only crank if I jump from another vehicle so you recon that would fix mine?
357 bullfrog, I feel your problem is the battery terminals are not getting a good connection to your new battery. I suggest you take both battery terminals off and clean with a wire brush and get all of the corrosion off. You need to clean it down to the lead terminal shine. When you get a jump, the battery cables are clipping to the outside of your battery cables which are not corroded. You may even need to scrape the inside of the terminal with a sharp tool to get all the glazing off. sounds like yours are really bad. Good luck my friend, I think you are going to be amazed if you follow my advice. One more thing when you tighten the terminals, you should not be able to twist them at all, if you can tighten more.
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