Casual Fans: Yay! unified Germanic tribes halted the expansion of an over expanding state...just like the Spartans did to the Persians. Rome Fanbois: We come back you know? Germans: Sure you do ...Sure you do... ** looks at bearded men in Horses with short arrows from Hungary.** ** Coughs ** **410 AD** **coughs** ** Alaric ** Rome Fanbois : ......................Yeah, but at that time it was all about Constantonople, so Rome didn't matter. Turks: You mean Istanbul? Rome Fanbois: **Triggered** Russians cosplaying as Byzantines: Stay out of this Turks or else it gets the hose again. Germans: **Transforms into Prussia** **Metatron Video on Aztecs** Rome Fanbois: oh Cortes was a genius. 400 iberians toppled an empire of 100,000 devil worshipping mexicnas. North Americans: This video was super inaccurate. 99% of the troops that sacked Tenochtilan were Tlaxcalan led by Xicotencatl. It took 2 minutes to reload a Musket. No way a 5'2 spanish speaking midget did that to the people that built Тула and Teotiucan. Rome Fanbois: mmm. yes, the Spanish had Guns. North Americans: Again, 2 minutes to reload with a 80% fail rate in humid weather.
@01000110 ! I'm sure Romans had some washing facilities, but infiltration plan involving detour to wash off manure within a single night seems a bit bizarre.
@01000110 ! Roman legions did not die from dysentery while on campaign (unlike every other army until about 1900) specifically because of how concerned with hygiene they were.
Well spotted! I like Barbarians as a show. But... the thing that got me the most was the lack of killing ground outside the Roman camp. There was forrest all the way up to the walls at some parts. And thick forrest at that, not just the random tree. That means the Roman guards would have an almost impossible task spotting enemies sneaking close. And they could come very, very close with missile weapons. It's just asking for being assaulted with hit and run tactics.
Exactly!! XD That was my thought as well. NO Roman commander would have done this. Even if Varus was not very proficient with the ways of a Roman camp, the prefect would have made sure something so basic as this was taken care of.
Yes. Any story which relies on the Romans failing in the prosecution of war is a stupid story. They may not have had much in the way of culture of their own, but when it came to making war Rome knew no masters.
Honestly i didnt really have a problem with it. This is a camp of more then one legion which is a MAJOR force. No normal "barbarian" tribe/raiding group would even think about attacking them no matter how shitty there defenses would be. This would take a major effort on the tribes part. The romans at this point assume this is a more or less pacified province that is succsessfully conquered. It is no longer major enemy territory. So why send your legioners out to cut half the fucking forest down to create view when there is no possible threat of attack anyway. Additionally we see that the auxilliaries are camping outside the main camp around it. Any attack would by default hit them first so the encampment had enough time to respond anyway. Additionally, how long were they in this camp? You dont exhaust your entire legion with choping trees down in somewhat friendly territory if you only stay at the same place for a day or two. That would be rather dumb, especially considering that the romans most likely already choped a good amount of trees down to create the camp in the first place. They propably left the forest ouside the camp to give the viewers the feeling of the giant forest everywhere. It is supposed to show how compacted the romans are by it and how they literally force there ways into it with no compromise. Is it historically accurate? We dont really know. All our sources are from romans who though rome was the greatest thign in human existance so obviously they would never report on camps beeing build a bit lackluster and only beeing perfect. After all how can roman men wiht roman virtues no build perfect camps?
@@noobster4779 Ok this post has several misunderstandings. 1. Germania was never considered pacified, especially not at the time of Augustus and Varus. Even if it was, and even if it was just for one single night, the Legions would build the entire fort according to spec, everytime. "You don't exhaust your legion" That statement would get you whipped by the Commander if you were a soldier. You walk 8 hours, build an entire fort TO SPEC with trenches and walls for 4-6h, sleep, dismantle the fort in a couple hours, walk 8 hours again, and repeat non-stop for months on end. That was the life of a legionary. Walk, build, sleep, dismantle, walk again. Fight occasionally, maybe die. 2. They were already chopping down trees to make space for the encampment, and it was trivial to go a few meters further to give some space. That's just a few more minutes for the 6000 men per legion. Assuming just 2 legions, there are at least 10 thousand men to chop a few dozen trees around the camp. Of whom a fifth were slaves/servants. 3. The bias of the source is not relevant here. The information we are working with is that every single camp Roman camp was organized exactly the same. For better, or for worse. And we don't see that here.
I was kinda disappointed how some of the germanics were portrayed as simple, especially with their dialogues. Sure, Folkwin wasn't supposed to be a brain surgeon, but as first sword of a tribe leader, he couldn't have been that stupid.
If you saw the series would you be kind to tell me honestly ,does this Netflix series worth watching because I already know what is going to happen teutoberg forest and all,so I'm sure because lack of suprises and knowledge of ending it's going to be boring but anyway I'm not sure should watch it or not
@@Ramtin-Blue_rose it's not a documentary and the actual battle isn't long. The character arc of and between the 3 main characters wasn't bad, the way they used Latin to emphasise the tensions between romans and germanics is well done. Overall, it's a decent series.
@@Ramtin-Blue_rose haven’t you ever watched something you already watched before? Knowledge of the ending matters little, its the journey and the experience that matters
Your videos are infinitely better than what they were a few years ago. This video was packed with details and historical information. I love learning Roman history and you make it so alive, not only with your depth of ancient Roman knowledge, but also your pronunciation of the ancient Latin and your costumes. You are a living Roman in my book. Anyone in Hollywood doing a show about Romans should hire you as a consultant.
Having an historical consultant on set doesn't necessarily solve the issue. Just keep in mind the first question Lindybeige asks historical consultants. "Why didn't they listen to you?"
you mean that dude that let his fleel get caught into a storm, many ships sank and he was stranded in enemy lands? :P not intended to sound mean :) Germanicus is indeed a great character,,,but not without his flaws ;)
I would love tiberius was not so stupid and paranoid and left germanicus, he would have finish the job for good (which at the end would benefit everybody including germanic tribes)
@@derrhawor3061 Niemand ist perfekt. Sein Sieg über die Germaner war 10 mal größer und einflussreicher als der Hinterhalt von Teutoburg aber komischerweise ihr Deutsche erinnert euch nur an das und bezeichnet die Römer als gefühlose, rücksichtlose, faschistische Imperialisten, als ob die Germaner heilige Menschen waren. (Leute die oft Kinder geopfert haben und in den 5. J.H. die dunkelste Zeit Europas verursacht haben, nähmlich Mittelalter)
@@giovannipigliacampo4849 we dont only like to remember our glorious guerrilla-war in that time, we also love to remember the time all that germanic tribes gave rome a good beating in later times of mass migrations... ;)
From Spain I love all this latin words and could relate entirely without lossing their meaning. "Turris" as "Torres", Vallus as "Vallas", "Fossa" as "Fosa".
I`m glad you addressed this scene. I had a really hard time trying to keep watching the rest of the show after this. It felt unimaginative and hard to swallow. I was quite surprised that the whole gold eagle theft was real, though done by other people.
I always wondered how the Romans were able to build these things so quickly! Your description of how the ditch dirt became the base of the palisades explains so much! One question though: those pointy "palisades" at 7:30 look like they were built by carpenters. Would the Romans have carried thousands of those things with them in order to build their walls? Or would they have hacked down all the trees nearby and used those? If it's the latter, then what did the Romans do in deserts or wheat fields where no logs could be had? If it's the former, then would the palisades be carried by wagon? Or did certain troops/slaves carry them in addition to all their other gear? Or are they repurposed javelins/missiles that could be used as walls at night and weapons by day?
I always enjoy these videos. I learn a lot, and it doesn't bother me weather or not I'm watching the show, movies, playing the game, et cetera. Keep up the good work, I really appreciate all of your material, and of course look forward to your special videos such as cinematic and travel projects. Thank you
a minute in: stealing a roman eagle from a castra would have been impossible. it was the most protected treasure a legion possessed. losing it from a fortification from a sneak attack would have been unthinkable!
@@sebastianriemer1777 But how are you doing to enter the cam in the first place? Also, killing the legion around it without causing a commotion? 😂 I bet those thieves employed their Ramsey and his 20 good men tactic and then Aria plot armor.
The Roman military camps on tv are no where near correct. During Caesar's conquest of Gaul his armies had engineers that were ahead of the army to plan the layout of the days camp. Basically any Roman soldier could enter a camp and immediately know his way around as the camps were identical as much as possible...
What i wanted to know was if the romans built wooden walls for their marching camps or was it an earth mound. I would have thought going to the trouble of making actual wooden walls would simply have been too much. Really glad i watched this vid.
@@mickhogan6048 where did they get the wooden palisades? I mean, it's not every campsite that ends up being erected near a forest with ample trees, and chopping down trees takes hours and can't be done very well if you're under attack--it requires foraging. So I assume they didn't always make their palisades as they went. And of course, they would often be camping in wheat fields or deserts, on top of rocky outcroppings and hills, etc. Did they just... CARRY hundreds of wooden palisades with them? Did they keep them on carts? And how did they erect huge towers at the door of each camp so quickly? It seems like it would take 3 hours in the morning to disassemble and then 3 hours at night to put it all back together, so ... how were these armies doing 20 mile per day forced marches if they also needed to set up a camp every night?
I always figured that some time, long ago in unrecorded prehistory, the ancestors of the Romans must have suffered a bad ambush, maybe multiple ambushes while encamped. The effort they put into their castra, and the fact that it was absolutely, positively, a non-negotiable duty when in enemy territory, not matter how large the army, how little they anticipated a surprise attack, or even how exhausted the army might have been. If they were going to sleep on potentially hostile ground, the put in the not insignificant effort to build the castra. Whatever half-remembered event habitualized this behavior, it must have been dramatic and traumatic.
It could be possible though it would have to be a very very long time ago as the Latin culture had been making Castra's as far as our archeology records go back, and even the Etruscans seemed to build their own Castra's long before the Latins even arrived in Italy.
If you have a great army then your opponents will try to defeat you in other way than in open battle, one them being a surprise ambush in the night. From the comfort of my swivel chair I can say that it’s seems pretty obvious to me why they did it and imagine it quite reckless if they didn’t.
The whole "nick the eagle" thing got me too. I am a Household Cavalry Vet. And to watch them swan in and out of a Roman camp forced me to, er ahem, comment to my wife as we vets do when watching anything military, "how stupid they've written this part just to pad out the main story". You are right, the Guards at the gate where far too accomodating. It was all a bit to "Robin Hood" for me. I have been to Kalkriese, the site of the "Roman last Stand" of the three day battle, and looked forward to the movie battle given the six part build up to it. However, what a disappointment. They could have done a whole episode on the preparations to victory. The all important geographical reshaping the forest and pathway's, the obstruction of escape pathways, to guide the three Legions on a path to the "Kill zone". The building of hides to allow the tribal warriors to emerge from the Forrest with little more than a few meters run up to achieve total surprise. The construction of the kill zone palisades, the creation of larger wetlands to border the kill zone and so on. This was no simple ambush, tons of strategic planning and prep work went into victory. None of that was shown. Instead we got hours of fake Volkwin and "WOKE", kick ass, Battle axe Thusnelda. Having studied the Varus Battle intensely, I was somewhat disappointed for what this production could have been. A three day battle reduce to a five minute fire ball that would have required half of ESSO's or Shell's annual supply of oil. But in a modern "WOKE" fantasy world where war and men must not be glorified, it became a six part love triangle and treachery story with the battle as an add on and Thusnelda thrust.centre stage as a modern day Feminist appeasing tribal gladiator. 🙄
And to think I was starting to get interested in watching this show after seeing these videos about the historical accuracy of certain aspects... Thanks for helping me dodge another woke trash fire. I'm so tired of Leftist politics ruining everything these days...
Me: Oh great, a new Metatron video. Let's watch. My brain: Great now we want to know more about roman military engineering. Me: But its 3 in the morning. My brain: I said read.
Love this series. I love the show as it represents huge step forward in trying to present historical accuracy, but more than that I love your series about ancient rome and how you explain if things shown made sense
Greeks: builds camp according to the shape of the environment. Romans: doesn't care what obstructs the area their camp will fit whether you like it or not.
I love this series you are making Mr Metatron! When you have time I would also really like some Swiss historical videos. I come from Swiss stock and I am amazed at the culture of war and Swiss battle prowess around the 14th century against the Hapsburg and each other! Also the story of how they ended up guarding the Pope! Many thanks for your knowledge!
@@FlagAnthem Wouldn't a Breton version of Asterix be more fitting with the theme? Having a comic in latin just makes me imagine Asterix having a great-great grandson named Gaius Julius Astericus. Edit: Before anyone points it out, yes Breton is not the same as Gaulish, but it's the closest thing we have to what would have been spoken before the Roman conquest.
I love the part in the show where the Roman formation is shown from above as they are about to enter the forest, gave me goose bumps for some reason, BTW love your channel I found it the other day, grazie.
Interesting lesson on an important aspect of Roman military and culture! In the matter of Roman fortresses, I would like to call attention to the Roman fortress of Antonia in Jerusalem. Some current military and archeological scientists developed the thesis that what is actually called the "Temple Mount", was, due to its size and dimensions, the fortress of Antonia that housed the reinforced 10th Legion, while the Jewish temple was located south of it, in the City of David, above the Gihon spring, on a plateau that was destroyed by the Romans during the destruction of Jerusalem after the uprising. In the light of your military, historical and theological background, do you have an opinion on this matter? Greetings from the Dutch-guy in the Swiss Jura mountains.
People often confuse the simple Roman marching camp (which was assembled and disassembled every day) with the more complex and more permanent Roman fortifications. The marching camp only had a low dirt wall/mound, small ditch, and a row of wooden stakes that were carried in pairs by each legionary. There did not have tall wooden walls or large wooden watchtowers. The more permanent forts that were built if the Romans stayed in the same area for weeks or longer had the taller wooden palisades, wooden watch towers, larger ditches, large earthen walls, etc. By the mid to late empire, the more permanent forts built with wood and earth eventually evolved into brick and/or stone fortifications as legions were permanent garrisoned as a defending force that were stationed in the same spot for decades. The book "The Late Roman Army" distinguishes between daily marching camps and more permanent fortifications where the Romans stayed for longer periods - the daily marching camps were actually very simple of wooden stakes on top of a relatively low dirt bank and ditch: "...in the early Empire the Romans built them, perhaps for a variety of reasons. It is usually said that the army on the march built a camp every night, and this is perhaps true in so far as the soldiers carried stakes (pila muralia) with which to form a palisade on top of a bank of earth, which would be raised up from digging the surrounding ditch and turning the soil inwards. The banks need not have been very high or very wide. This sort of temporary camp, quite insubstantial in archaeological terms, may have **differed widely from a more permanent camp**....camps still evidence in north Britain may be of this more permanent variety." -p. 132 of "The Late Roman Army By Pat Southern" by Pat Southern and Karen R. Dixon
A prime subject for your series. I approve! I knew the fort "entry" was ridiculous but didn't know the three types of gates. You have a lot o contribute with your commentary. Keep it up.
THANK YOU! People rarely know about the fact roman forts were built very quickly and that is how they marched... they marched roughly 30 km a day, then built a fort. That’s how the battle took part, the front of the column moved forward while the back retreated to the previously built fort. Varus also committed suicide inside a fort, not during fighting. It is also a shame the series did not show Numonius Vala who was sent forward with a cavalry unit to break through and get reinforcements but was slaughtered by the Germans who anticipated this. Plus they didn’t show the famous wicker walls used by the Germans!
Hello Metatron I know that I have asked you before, but could you please make a video about the Carolingian Renaissance? Love your content and keep the good work going!
I am throughly enjoying your channel and the deep analysis of the time and place of this Nextflix show! Bravo! Greetings from us here in Brisbane Australia!
Watching the first episode now, and with that first overview shot of the camp I see at least 3, maybe 4, towers, though they are remarkably small compared to the camp itself. They are also at irregular distances from each other.
I love your channel, covers games and shows I love while also praising them and condemning them for their details. However why is The Last Kingdom missing from your list? You have Barbarians, For Honor, Valhalla, and many more but not The Last Kingdom. I thought that show would be a field day for you with details about that era in history. I do hope I'll see that video eventually.
Thank you for the video. Really informative and enjoyable. Next episode: How armor is just decorative. Why it didn't help Arminius with his duel against the 2-handed axe barbarian. (He was probably hit 3 times in that spot, LARP) oO
My first time viewing your videos. I happened on short Barbarians videos. Looks like a good production. Your apparently knowledgeable critique of various aspects of the production are interesting. You would make a good production advisor for Barbarians, it seems. Anyway, I enjoyed this video, and I feel better informed for watching it. Thanks for posting.
rewatching this in 2022 after season 2 was released, feels like the producers listened to your videos because season 2 has many historical improvements.
Yes please! More on Barbarians! For once, there is a more or less accurate series/film on the Roman period where they made a lot of efforts! It is a good way to explain things instead of only debunking.
I love this series! Thank you, Metatron... I enjoy showing my kids that I'm not the only one that likes historicity in movies. My family sends our gratitude!
It's quite sad that film from 1999 Astérix et Obélix contre César shows us better Roman castra than this show :D However I liked the show very much aswell.
It's not depicting a better Roman castra because the two media are depicting completely different things. This show is depicting a Roman marching camp that was built and disassembled every day. The 1999 Astérix et Obélix contre César is depicting a more permanent Roman fortification that was built if the Romans stayed in the same spot for weeks or longer. People often confuse the simple Roman marching camp (which was assembled and disassembled every day) with the more complex and more permanent Roman fortifications. The marching camp only had a low dirt wall/mound, small ditch, and a row of wooden stakes that were carried in pairs by each legionary. There did not have tall wooden walls or large wooden watchtowers. The more permanent forts that were built if the Romans stayed in the same area for weeks or longer had the taller wooden palisades, wooden watch towers, larger ditches, large earthen walls, etc. By the mid to late empire, the more permanent forts built with wood and earth eventually evolved into brick and/or stone fortifications as legions were permanent garrisoned as a defending force that were stationed in the same spot for decades. The book "The Late Roman Army" distinguishes between daily marching camps and more permanent fortifications where the Romans stayed for longer periods - the daily marching camps were actually very simple of wooden stakes on top of a relatively low dirt bank and ditch: "...in the early Empire the Romans built them, perhaps for a variety of reasons. It is usually said that the army on the march built a camp every night, and this is perhaps true in so far as the soldiers carried stakes (pila muralia) with which to form a palisade on top of a bank of earth, which would be raised up from digging the surrounding ditch and turning the soil inwards. The banks need not have been very high or very wide. This sort of temporary camp, quite insubstantial in archaeological terms, may have **differed widely from a more permanent camp**....camps still evidence in north Britain may be of this more permanent variety." -p. 132 of "The Late Roman Army By Pat Southern" by Pat Southern and Karen R. Dixon
@@Intranetusa Ok I know about all these things you just wrote here. I just tried to be funny and you will make such a lecture here why I am wrong.. oh come on..
I liked the series "Barbariens" very much, especially because of the Latin! I really hope that a second season will be produced. Of course, the series is not always historically correct, but well, that's a series that is supposed to entertain and many viewers would not notice the historical errors. But that's what you're here for :) I very much support your negative and positive criticism of the series, you are doing great! Keep it up! Best regards from the province of Germania Superior :)
They run around with the "camp" in their baggage That's in part why they're so fast when it comes to building,they have all the stuff they need already
@@hazzmati Not really lol. Romans would build their camp from surrounding wood and later they would use local clay to fire brick needed to a build permanent fortifications and use local stones if available. Did they do the same in the desert?
Hello there. I would love to see you do the history, weapons and armor of the Military Frontiers of the Habsburg Monarchy (and Venice) with the Ottoman Empire, also the Uskoks, Morlachs and Hajduks. They need more love on youtube :D
Btw, Metatron(hoping you read this), I was wondering what period of armour you’re going for with your Milanese harness. Is it 1440’s Avant era or something more similar to Brera Madonna 1470’s style of Milanese armour?
Nice video. not watched the video on latin dialogue yet but i took latin 38 yrs ago and have to say urs is more interesting. have u a video or insight of a roman logistics train? How much does a legion need to feed itself for a campaign. For easy start the invasion of Anglesey?
Fun series, well presented. Netflix needs to put you on its recommended hire list for producers looking for research producers on these kinds of period productions.
as always your videos are great. The key thing I thought was wrong with the camp is that the trees are far too close! They would not have built a camp where an enemy could get so close without being seen
@Metatron would love to hear your opinion on this one topic. Iam sure you heard of the theory “Jerusalem - Tempelmount” There are many that believe that the Plato is where the temple once stand but there are very interesting theories that on this place was the Roman fort. Would love to hear your opinion on this. 🤙
I think the exit scene was implying that it was darker, so they weren't recognized as Romans. My real question was, could the other 2 barbarians really have entered the way they did?
As far as I can remember Augustus reduced the number of legions in the Empire to 22 after defeating Anthony. Losing 3 in Teutoburg means you are left with 19. 8 Legions sent after the Eagles means almost half. Send almost half of your entire remaining armed forces will show how much you were pissed at those poor idiots. Also, I love how you described the Roman empire as a self replicating entity. Hmm, any other massive thing in the news self replicating in others space? Roman Empire, Roma... Rona, what would more of those thing put together be? The Thing is heralding an empire? (sarcasm obviously, hopefully won't get banned)
The punishment those guards would have received is unfathomable. The saying, Roman legions feared their centurion more than they feared their enemies is something that tells you that's the Legions don't fuck up. So thusnelda and folkwin walking through as easy as they did? Nuh it wouldn't have happened.
Excellent video. The first thing that struck me when we saw the camp was that the forest comes right up to the walls. Surely they would have cleared that right back.
Almost every British archaeologist says that Roman castra are all the same, except where they all are different. The only commonality is the variations!
I was at the site at Kalkriese, Germany, yesterday (where they found the face mask and one complete lorica segmentata and LOADS of other stuff). Of course the museum is closed due to covid but the archeological park was open. The "old" background story of the whole battle was based on the wall and trench they dug out, which is documented by excavations. The theory was, that the Germanic tribes build a long wall right at the forest and attacked the marching roman troops from behind the wall. One thing that was always on my mind was: why didn't roman scouts discover this (must be super long) wall? You describe scouting and searching for suitable camp sites. They would have checked that for sure and would have seen that this was an obvious trap. It's pretty interesting that you also mention that wall and trench building was going on very quickly, even under heavy attack. It correlates with the wall that was found, and that archeologists and historians now tend to see as a wall built by the romans, not the Germanic tribes. So Kalkriese, where archeologists think might have been some heavy fighting going on, was this maybe an emergency camp that was set up under heavy attack? Maybe. Roman tools were found right by the wall. The Romans were capable of doing that rapid building and holding that position, despite attacks from within the forest. We know that the battle went on for several days. This would support this approach. Thanks for pointing this all out, very well researched information here!
After watching your reviews on the series Barbarem man i watched the entire season while i was driving last night. As for the actors and actresses I think they all did beautifully and i really don't see the issues of white and black except that it adds a bit of a character twist to it. The season ended with Tusnelda's parents getting beheaded and her child getting taken to Rome as well as her. I won't is there's a second season? It'll be great to see a continuation to it. By the way i live your pronunciation of the Latin.
Hey Metraton, have you taken a look at the Archaeological record when it comes to roman forts? Also when it comes to cities. The romans adapted their orthogonal ideal to the terrain more than you make it come across.
Barbarians is one of those TV shows where the budget constraints are obvious. In the whole of Germania the main locations are one village and a small Roman camp set augmented with a bunch of CG with about 50 extras and 5 horses.
Sadly, I cannot watch the show, because we do not have Netflix. However, I am highly interested if you did some more analysis of the show. I simply love to learn more about the Romans, so please continue this series. Also, if professional filmmakers learn that the audience gets more knowledgeable about the details, they are forced to put more work into their series/movies. Now that would be a trend I could absolutely identify with! Let's work on it...
HBO's Rome also pulled off an Eagle stealing plot, but there was really not much shown about it... that wasn't supposed to be the incident with the Sicambri, was it? I did have strong suspicions about this Eagle stealing mission was unprobable, really glad that you elaborated on it!
Casual fans: oh no, Rome will atack our beloved characters!
Rome fanbois: hehe can't wait for Rome to strike back)))
I wanted rome to win. They were armored and these barbarians had basically no armor on.
Me during the whole series.
@@outlawjones2379 Well still, they won in real life :D
Roma Invicta!!!!
Casual Fans: Yay! unified Germanic tribes halted the expansion of an over expanding state...just like the Spartans did to the Persians.
Rome Fanbois: We come back you know?
Germans: Sure you do ...Sure you do... ** looks at bearded men in Horses with short arrows from Hungary.**
** Coughs ** **410 AD** **coughs** ** Alaric **
Rome Fanbois : ......................Yeah, but at that time it was all about Constantonople, so Rome didn't matter.
Turks: You mean Istanbul?
Rome Fanbois: **Triggered**
Russians cosplaying as Byzantines: Stay out of this Turks or else it gets the hose again.
Germans: **Transforms into Prussia**
**Metatron Video on Aztecs**
Rome Fanbois: oh Cortes was a genius. 400 iberians toppled an empire of 100,000 devil worshipping mexicnas.
North Americans: This video was super inaccurate. 99% of the troops that sacked Tenochtilan were Tlaxcalan led by Xicotencatl. It took 2 minutes to reload a Musket. No way a 5'2 spanish speaking midget did that to the people that built Тула and Teotiucan.
Rome Fanbois: mmm. yes, the Spanish had Guns.
North Americans: Again, 2 minutes to reload with a 80% fail rate in humid weather.
The thing the bothered me with that plan of eagle "acquisition" is: how 2 men dive through sewer and then "stealthily" approach anything?
Guards: 🤭🤭🤢🤮 DEVS you guys stink!!!
@01000110 ! do you have any idea how much romans cared for hygiene?
@01000110 ! I'm sure Romans had some washing facilities, but infiltration plan involving detour to wash off manure within a single night seems a bit bizarre.
@01000110 ! Roman legions did not die from dysentery while on campaign (unlike every other army until about 1900) specifically because of how concerned with hygiene they were.
@@trunovmichael Maybe there was a river nearby? There has to be for the Romans to get water too.
I like how metatron's tumbnail are like the "popular" youtubers but with armor or something historically related
You gotta take advantage of TH-cam's algorithm 🥲👍🏼
Something like: TAKING OVER JERUSALEM ( GONE CHRISTIAN ) !
@@artifex2.080 CROSSING THE RUBICON (GONE WRONG) (GAULS WERE PISSED) (IMPERIUM WAS FUCKED)
DoucheTubers
@@18754KRS BUYING A KNIFE FOR MY FRIEND BRUTUS (GONE VIOLENT)(CAESAR WAS PISSED)
Well spotted! I like Barbarians as a show. But... the thing that got me the most was the lack of killing ground outside the Roman camp. There was forrest all the way up to the walls at some parts. And thick forrest at that, not just the random tree. That means the Roman guards would have an almost impossible task spotting enemies sneaking close. And they could come very, very close with missile weapons. It's just asking for being assaulted with hit and run tactics.
Exactly!! XD That was my thought as well. NO Roman commander would have done this. Even if Varus was not very proficient with the ways of a Roman camp, the prefect would have made sure something so basic as this was taken care of.
Yes. Any story which relies on the Romans failing in the prosecution of war is a stupid story.
They may not have had much in the way of culture of their own, but when it came to making war Rome knew no masters.
Honestly i didnt really have a problem with it. This is a camp of more then one legion which is a MAJOR force. No normal "barbarian" tribe/raiding group would even think about attacking them no matter how shitty there defenses would be. This would take a major effort on the tribes part.
The romans at this point assume this is a more or less pacified province that is succsessfully conquered. It is no longer major enemy territory. So why send your legioners out to cut half the fucking forest down to create view when there is no possible threat of attack anyway.
Additionally we see that the auxilliaries are camping outside the main camp around it. Any attack would by default hit them first so the encampment had enough time to respond anyway. Additionally, how long were they in this camp? You dont exhaust your entire legion with choping trees down in somewhat friendly territory if you only stay at the same place for a day or two. That would be rather dumb, especially considering that the romans most likely already choped a good amount of trees down to create the camp in the first place.
They propably left the forest ouside the camp to give the viewers the feeling of the giant forest everywhere. It is supposed to show how compacted the romans are by it and how they literally force there ways into it with no compromise.
Is it historically accurate? We dont really know. All our sources are from romans who though rome was the greatest thign in human existance so obviously they would never report on camps beeing build a bit lackluster and only beeing perfect. After all how can roman men wiht roman virtues no build perfect camps?
@@noobster4779 Ok this post has several misunderstandings.
1. Germania was never considered pacified, especially not at the time of Augustus and Varus. Even if it was, and even if it was just for one single night, the Legions would build the entire fort according to spec, everytime.
"You don't exhaust your legion"
That statement would get you whipped by the Commander if you were a soldier. You walk 8 hours, build an entire fort TO SPEC with trenches and walls for 4-6h, sleep, dismantle the fort in a couple hours, walk 8 hours again, and repeat non-stop for months on end. That was the life of a legionary. Walk, build, sleep, dismantle, walk again. Fight occasionally, maybe die.
2. They were already chopping down trees to make space for the encampment, and it was trivial to go a few meters further to give some space. That's just a few more minutes for the 6000 men per legion. Assuming just 2 legions, there are at least 10 thousand men to chop a few dozen trees around the camp. Of whom a fifth were slaves/servants.
3. The bias of the source is not relevant here. The information we are working with is that every single camp Roman camp was organized exactly the same. For better, or for worse. And we don't see that here.
even if the germans do'nt attack you other creatures of the forest would and having a clearing can help bring some fresh air and ventilation.
I was kinda disappointed how some of the germanics were portrayed as simple, especially with their dialogues. Sure, Folkwin wasn't supposed to be a brain surgeon, but as first sword of a tribe leader, he couldn't have been that stupid.
I liked the show, but they made everyone a complete moron.
@@sheevinopalpatino4782 except the women. It's netflix man
If you saw the series would you be kind to tell me honestly ,does this Netflix series worth watching because I already know what is going to happen teutoberg forest and all,so I'm sure because lack of suprises and knowledge of ending it's going to be boring but anyway I'm not sure should watch it or not
@@Ramtin-Blue_rose it's not a documentary and the actual battle isn't long. The character arc of and between the 3 main characters wasn't bad, the way they used Latin to emphasise the tensions between romans and germanics is well done. Overall, it's a decent series.
@@Ramtin-Blue_rose haven’t you ever watched something you already watched before? Knowledge of the ending matters little, its the journey and the experience that matters
Your videos are infinitely better than what they were a few years ago. This video was packed with details and historical information. I love learning Roman history and you make it so alive, not only with your depth of ancient Roman knowledge, but also your pronunciation of the ancient Latin and your costumes. You are a living Roman in my book. Anyone in Hollywood doing a show about Romans should hire you as a consultant.
Thank you for your kind words
Yup, keep it up metaboy :D
Having an historical consultant on set doesn't necessarily solve the issue. Just keep in mind the first question Lindybeige asks historical consultants. "Why didn't they listen to you?"
Bravissimo! I’m very glad to hear this critique from a specialist. Macte virtūte estō! ⚔️ Pulcherrimē prōnūntiās sermōnem Latīnum! 😃
They will be sending THE ROMAN...the perfect man...the ideal man...Germanicus
Man I hope they do that. "The Empire strikes back" literally
you mean that dude that let his fleel get caught into a storm, many ships sank and he was stranded in enemy lands? :P
not intended to sound mean :) Germanicus is indeed a great character,,,but not without his flaws ;)
I would love tiberius was not so stupid and paranoid and left germanicus, he would have finish the job for good (which at the end would benefit everybody including germanic tribes)
@@derrhawor3061 Niemand ist perfekt. Sein Sieg über die Germaner war 10 mal größer und einflussreicher als der Hinterhalt von Teutoburg aber komischerweise ihr Deutsche erinnert euch nur an das und bezeichnet die Römer als gefühlose, rücksichtlose, faschistische Imperialisten, als ob die Germaner heilige Menschen waren. (Leute die oft Kinder geopfert haben und in den 5. J.H. die dunkelste Zeit Europas verursacht haben, nähmlich Mittelalter)
@@giovannipigliacampo4849 we dont only like to remember our glorious guerrilla-war in that time, we also love to remember the time all that germanic tribes gave rome a good beating in later times of mass migrations... ;)
From Spain I love all this latin words and could relate entirely without lossing their meaning. "Turris" as "Torres", Vallus as "Vallas", "Fossa" as "Fosa".
Says : "Read anything written by Titus Flavius Josephus"
Picture : from Astérix le gaulois
Me : smiles in bande dessinée.
@Cegesh I was watching a few scenes from the Cartoon and the movies today.
Goscinny et Uderzo : *purrs in Gaulish*
Par Toutatis
That one was immediately familiar :)
Ah, a connaisseur...
But alors, you are French?
I`m glad you addressed this scene. I had a really hard time trying to keep watching the rest of the show after this. It felt unimaginative and hard to swallow. I was quite surprised that the whole gold eagle theft was real, though done by other people.
Well NetFlix had to make a broad a hero. Stay woke my friend
I always wondered how the Romans were able to build these things so quickly! Your description of how the ditch dirt became the base of the palisades explains so much! One question though: those pointy "palisades" at 7:30 look like they were built by carpenters. Would the Romans have carried thousands of those things with them in order to build their walls? Or would they have hacked down all the trees nearby and used those? If it's the latter, then what did the Romans do in deserts or wheat fields where no logs could be had? If it's the former, then would the palisades be carried by wagon? Or did certain troops/slaves carry them in addition to all their other gear? Or are they repurposed javelins/missiles that could be used as walls at night and weapons by day?
Every Soldier carried 2 of them. Google Marius mules
Thank you for pronouncing words. I know it's a lot to juggle a dozen different phonetic patterns but you do it effortlessly.
I always enjoy these videos. I learn a lot, and it doesn't bother me weather or not I'm watching the show, movies, playing the game, et cetera.
Keep up the good work, I really appreciate all of your material, and of course look forward to your special videos such as cinematic and travel projects.
Thank you
I'm glad to hear! Thanks for watching
a minute in: stealing a roman eagle from a castra would have been impossible.
it was the most protected treasure a legion possessed.
losing it from a fortification from a sneak attack would have been unthinkable!
It's easy. Just kill the legion around it. 😉
@@sebastianriemer1777 But how are you doing to enter the cam in the first place? Also, killing the legion around it without causing a commotion? 😂 I bet those thieves employed their Ramsey and his 20 good men tactic and then Aria plot armor.
Dig in to it or send in large amounts of pretty young gay men and whores to seduce the soldiers use this to kill the enemy
The Roman military camps on tv are no where near correct. During Caesar's conquest of Gaul his armies had engineers that were ahead of the army to plan the layout of the days camp. Basically any Roman soldier could enter a camp and immediately know his way around as the camps were identical as much as possible...
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What i wanted to know was if the romans built wooden walls for their marching camps or was it an earth mound. I would have thought going to the trouble of making actual wooden walls would simply have been too much.
Really glad i watched this vid.
@@joshuaperry7199depending on how long they camped usually decided how well a camp was defended but as a minimum wooden palisades were erected
@@mickhogan6048 where did they get the wooden palisades? I mean, it's not every campsite that ends up being erected near a forest with ample trees, and chopping down trees takes hours and can't be done very well if you're under attack--it requires foraging. So I assume they didn't always make their palisades as they went. And of course, they would often be camping in wheat fields or deserts, on top of rocky outcroppings and hills, etc. Did they just... CARRY hundreds of wooden palisades with them? Did they keep them on carts? And how did they erect huge towers at the door of each camp so quickly? It seems like it would take 3 hours in the morning to disassemble and then 3 hours at night to put it all back together, so ... how were these armies doing 20 mile per day forced marches if they also needed to set up a camp every night?
@@d.m.collins1501 they carried wooden stakes with them, two stakes per legionaire if I remember correctly
I always figured that some time, long ago in unrecorded prehistory, the ancestors of the Romans must have suffered a bad ambush, maybe multiple ambushes while encamped. The effort they put into their castra, and the fact that it was absolutely, positively, a non-negotiable duty when in enemy territory, not matter how large the army, how little they anticipated a surprise attack, or even how exhausted the army might have been. If they were going to sleep on potentially hostile ground, the put in the not insignificant effort to build the castra. Whatever half-remembered event habitualized this behavior, it must have been dramatic and traumatic.
It could be possible though it would have to be a very very long time ago as the Latin culture had been making Castra's as far as our archeology records go back, and even the Etruscans seemed to build their own Castra's long before the Latins even arrived in Italy.
just seems like common sense really, to not want to be ambushed
If you have a great army then your opponents will try to defeat you in other way than in open battle, one them being a surprise ambush in the night.
From the comfort of my swivel chair I can say that it’s seems pretty obvious to me why they did it and imagine it quite reckless if they didn’t.
The whole "nick the eagle" thing got me too.
I am a Household Cavalry Vet. And to watch them swan in and out of a Roman camp forced me to, er ahem, comment to my wife as we vets do when watching anything military, "how stupid they've written this part just to pad out the main story".
You are right, the Guards at the gate where far too accomodating.
It was all a bit to "Robin Hood" for me.
I have been to Kalkriese, the site of the "Roman last Stand" of the three day battle, and looked forward to the movie battle given the six part build up to it.
However, what a disappointment.
They could have done a whole episode on the preparations to victory.
The all important geographical reshaping the forest and pathway's, the obstruction of escape pathways, to guide the three Legions on a path to the "Kill zone". The building of hides to allow the tribal warriors to emerge from the Forrest with little more than a few meters run up to achieve total surprise.
The construction of the kill zone palisades, the creation of larger wetlands to border the kill zone and so on.
This was no simple ambush, tons of strategic planning and prep work went into victory.
None of that was shown. Instead we got hours of fake Volkwin and "WOKE", kick ass, Battle axe Thusnelda.
Having studied the Varus Battle intensely, I was somewhat disappointed for what this production could have been. A three day battle reduce to a five minute fire ball that would have required half of ESSO's or Shell's annual supply of oil.
But in a modern "WOKE" fantasy world where war and men must not be glorified, it became a six part love triangle and treachery story with the battle as an add on and Thusnelda thrust.centre stage as a modern day Feminist appeasing tribal gladiator. 🙄
And to think I was starting to get interested in watching this show after seeing these videos about the historical accuracy of certain aspects...
Thanks for helping me dodge another woke trash fire. I'm so tired of Leftist politics ruining everything these days...
Me: Oh great, a new Metatron video. Let's watch.
My brain: Great now we want to know more about roman military engineering.
Me: But its 3 in the morning.
My brain: I said read.
Homer having a conversation with his brain.
Love this series. I love the show as it represents huge step forward in trying to present historical accuracy, but more than that I love your series about ancient rome and how you explain if things shown made sense
Love your videos! I wish you would have been my history teacher. You explain everything so well and in-depth. Please keep going. Banzai.
I love your content! You really make the Roman world come alive.
This is one of the most interesting videos you've made mate! Fascinating stuff! You should do an independent video on it!
Greeks: builds camp according to the shape of the environment.
Romans: doesn't care what obstructs the area their camp will fit whether you like it or not.
I love this series you are making Mr Metatron! When you have time I would also really like some Swiss historical videos. I come from Swiss stock and I am amazed at the culture of war and Swiss battle prowess around the 14th century against the Hapsburg and each other! Also the story of how they ended up guarding the Pope! Many thanks for your knowledge!
Barbarians season 2: the empire strikes back!
10:07 I knew it! Your main source of knowledge is Asterix! :P
I'd like to see him make a video about the historical accuracy of the old Asterix comics. 😀
Didn't Asterix got a latin version?
@@FlagAnthem Wouldn't a Breton version of Asterix be more fitting with the theme? Having a comic in latin just makes me imagine Asterix having a great-great grandson named Gaius Julius Astericus.
Edit: Before anyone points it out, yes Breton is not the same as Gaulish, but it's the closest thing we have to what would have been spoken before the Roman conquest.
@@FlagAnthem Yes, I think it also comes in Esperanto...
@@andrewk.5575 didn't they go to "great britain" at one point though? I remember them making fun of the language and habits at times lol. xD
Be careful with that blade, soldier.
You don't want to an Cicero yourself.
Too soon fam 😤
Hard to nail your hands on the Senate doors after having chopped them off
Fun fact: my first minecraft dog was named Cicero based off of (you guessed it) Cicero
I hope the jokes are gonna appear at the start of most videos from now on, theyre great
I love the part in the show where the Roman formation is shown from above as they are about to enter the forest, gave me goose bumps for some reason, BTW love your channel I found it the other day, grazie.
Amazing content Metatron. I am so glad I found your channel. I have been learning a lot! Cheers!
I don't have a tv nor Netflix, but I really enjoy your videos, I learn so much from you! Thanks! Have a beautiful evening/day! 🤗
Interesting lesson on an important aspect of Roman military and culture! In the matter of Roman fortresses, I would like to call attention to the Roman fortress of Antonia in Jerusalem. Some current military and archeological scientists developed the thesis that what is actually called the "Temple Mount", was, due to its size and dimensions, the fortress of Antonia that housed the reinforced 10th Legion, while the Jewish temple was located south of it, in the City of David, above the Gihon spring, on a plateau that was destroyed by the Romans during the destruction of Jerusalem after the uprising. In the light of your military, historical and theological background, do you have an opinion on this matter? Greetings from the Dutch-guy in the Swiss Jura mountains.
People often confuse the simple Roman marching camp (which was assembled and disassembled every day) with the more complex and more permanent Roman fortifications. The marching camp only had a low dirt wall/mound, small ditch, and a row of wooden stakes that were carried in pairs by each legionary. There did not have tall wooden walls or large wooden watchtowers. The more permanent forts that were built if the Romans stayed in the same area for weeks or longer had the taller wooden palisades, wooden watch towers, larger ditches, large earthen walls, etc. By the mid to late empire, the more permanent forts built with wood and earth eventually evolved into brick and/or stone fortifications as legions were permanent garrisoned as a defending force that were stationed in the same spot for decades. The book "The Late Roman Army" distinguishes between daily marching camps and more permanent fortifications where the Romans stayed for longer periods - the daily marching camps were actually very simple of wooden stakes on top of a relatively low dirt bank and ditch: "...in the early Empire the Romans built them, perhaps for a variety of reasons. It is usually said that the army on the march built a camp every night, and this is perhaps true in so far as the soldiers carried stakes (pila muralia) with which to form a palisade on top of a bank of earth, which would be raised up from digging the surrounding ditch and turning the soil inwards. The banks need not have been very high or very wide. This sort of temporary camp, quite insubstantial in archaeological terms, may have **differed widely from a more permanent camp**....camps still evidence in north Britain may be of this more permanent variety." -p. 132 of "The Late Roman Army By Pat Southern" by Pat Southern and Karen R. Dixon
A prime subject for your series. I approve! I knew the fort "entry" was ridiculous but didn't know the three types of gates. You have a lot o contribute with your commentary. Keep it up.
THANK YOU! People rarely know about the fact roman forts were built very quickly and that is how they marched... they marched roughly 30 km a day, then built a fort. That’s how the battle took part, the front of the column moved forward while the back retreated to the previously built fort. Varus also committed suicide inside a fort, not during fighting. It is also a shame the series did not show Numonius Vala who was sent forward with a cavalry unit to break through and get reinforcements but was slaughtered by the Germans who anticipated this.
Plus they didn’t show the famous wicker walls used by the Germans!
Hello Metatron I know that I have asked you before, but could you please make a video about the Carolingian Renaissance?
Love your content and keep the good work going!
Great series on Barbarian. Your comments enhance the series.
I am throughly enjoying your channel and the deep analysis of the time and place of this Nextflix show! Bravo!
Greetings from us here in Brisbane Australia!
Every Soldier Every Citizen Would Instinctively Know Where They Were Going When Within A Castra Or Town Anywhere In The Roman World They Happen To Be
A bit like modern cities in the west. Madrid, Stockholm, Berlin, Paris - same shops, same style same music.
It doesn't matter how many times I watch your channel. The segmentata always looks so perfect. Good job legionnaire
Thanks!
Your channel: Bellissimo.
This show: Quanto è fesso...
Buona serata.
Watching the first episode now, and with that first overview shot of the camp I see at least 3, maybe 4, towers, though they are remarkably small compared to the camp itself. They are also at irregular distances from each other.
thank you for your time amazing vid love the series btw! Varus & Arminius were amazing.
This was a great Video. I know Roman history well but I always learn many practical details from your channel.
I love your channel, covers games and shows I love while also praising them and condemning them for their details. However why is The Last Kingdom missing from your list? You have Barbarians, For Honor, Valhalla, and many more but not The Last Kingdom. I thought that show would be a field day for you with details about that era in history. I do hope I'll see that video eventually.
its very cool how you are explaining everything.
Keep up your good work.
Thanks for this video.
Excellent! Extremely well researched and formulated. 👍
Thank you for the video. Really informative and enjoyable. Next episode: How armor is just decorative. Why it didn't help Arminius with his duel against the 2-handed axe barbarian. (He was probably hit 3 times in that spot, LARP) oO
Love the content keep it up Uomu 👍
I like hearing you talk about the Romans probably more than anything
I came faster than Arminius betrayed Rome ...
Poor Julia...
Poor Folkwin... or should I say Folklose.
rome betrayed him.
So it took you a couple decades to come here ...?
@@bradthorne22 how?
That mop💁. You look like a prince👑.
Love this series! Both theirs and yours!
Time to thank you for your interesting videos. I am learning a lot and you are a very sympathic guy.
Metatron, you are an inexhaustible fountain of knowledge. If you don't mind continue to give us, what you can do best, conjunct tuition and pleasure.
My first time viewing your videos. I happened on short Barbarians videos. Looks like a good production. Your apparently knowledgeable critique of various aspects of the production are interesting. You would make a good production advisor for Barbarians, it seems. Anyway, I enjoyed this video, and I feel better informed for watching it. Thanks for posting.
rewatching this in 2022 after season 2 was released, feels like the producers listened to your videos because season 2 has many historical improvements.
The naked flames very close to the tent ceilings struck me as unrealistic.
I agree that really brought me out of the moment when they just strolled casually out.
Yes please! More on Barbarians! For once, there is a more or less accurate series/film on the Roman period where they made a lot of efforts! It is a good way to explain things instead of only debunking.
No one: ...
Absolutely no one: ...
Metatron: "The Empire Strikes Again"
I love this series! Thank you, Metatron... I enjoy showing my kids that I'm not the only one that likes historicity in movies. My family sends our gratitude!
Keep up the great work! Love your channel
It's quite sad that film from 1999 Astérix et Obélix contre César shows us better Roman castra than this show :D However I liked the show very much aswell.
It's not depicting a better Roman castra because the two media are depicting completely different things. This show is depicting a Roman marching camp that was built and disassembled every day. The 1999 Astérix et Obélix contre César is depicting a more permanent Roman fortification that was built if the Romans stayed in the same spot for weeks or longer. People often confuse the simple Roman marching camp (which was assembled and disassembled every day) with the more complex and more permanent Roman fortifications. The marching camp only had a low dirt wall/mound, small ditch, and a row of wooden stakes that were carried in pairs by each legionary. There did not have tall wooden walls or large wooden watchtowers. The more permanent forts that were built if the Romans stayed in the same area for weeks or longer had the taller wooden palisades, wooden watch towers, larger ditches, large earthen walls, etc. By the mid to late empire, the more permanent forts built with wood and earth eventually evolved into brick and/or stone fortifications as legions were permanent garrisoned as a defending force that were stationed in the same spot for decades. The book "The Late Roman Army" distinguishes between daily marching camps and more permanent fortifications where the Romans stayed for longer periods - the daily marching camps were actually very simple of wooden stakes on top of a relatively low dirt bank and ditch: "...in the early Empire the Romans built them, perhaps for a variety of reasons. It is usually said that the army on the march built a camp every night, and this is perhaps true in so far as the soldiers carried stakes (pila muralia) with which to form a palisade on top of a bank of earth, which would be raised up from digging the surrounding ditch and turning the soil inwards. The banks need not have been very high or very wide. This sort of temporary camp, quite insubstantial in archaeological terms, may have **differed widely from a more permanent camp**....camps still evidence in north Britain may be of this more permanent variety." -p. 132 of "The Late Roman Army By Pat Southern" by Pat Southern and Karen R. Dixon
@@Intranetusa Ok I know about all these things you just wrote here. I just tried to be funny and you will make such a lecture here why I am wrong.. oh come on..
I liked the series "Barbariens" very much, especially because of the Latin! I really hope that a second season will be produced. Of course, the series is not always historically correct, but well, that's a series that is supposed to entertain and many viewers would not notice the historical errors. But that's what you're here for :) I very much support your negative and positive criticism of the series, you are doing great! Keep it up! Best regards from the province of Germania Superior :)
when the Romans march through desert what do they use to build their camp? Mud? Desert stones?
They run around with the "camp" in their baggage
That's in part why they're so fast when it comes to building,they have all the stuff they need already
@@silverhand9965 no I mean the Castra, not the individual tents.
black ops he said everything
@@hazzmati Not really lol. Romans would build their camp from surrounding wood and later they would use local clay to fire brick needed to a build permanent fortifications and use local stones if available.
Did they do the same in the desert?
@@blakops000007 They each carried two wooden stakes to build the palisade, so they would be able to build something pretty much everywhere.
Hello there. I would love to see you do the history, weapons and armor of the Military Frontiers of the Habsburg Monarchy (and Venice) with the Ottoman Empire, also the Uskoks, Morlachs and Hajduks. They need more love on youtube :D
As always great content. Thank you for using the Latin words for the important parts.
If it was so difficult to steal the Eagle I wonder how did they manage to do it in real life?
Most likely they had insider help, possibly even higher ranking officers.
Basically any scenario that relies on Romans failing in the art of war is a stupid scenario.
You should have used the Pugio to cut your hair.
one castrum, several castra. Sorry for the nitpick.
I appreciate the show’s commitment to truth if not factuality, a practical authenticity.
Btw, Metatron(hoping you read this), I was wondering what period of armour you’re going for with your Milanese harness. Is it 1440’s Avant era or something more similar to Brera Madonna 1470’s style of Milanese armour?
I dont even have a netflix account, but I got a gladius today and I'm in history mode 🤭
Another great video! I would love to see you do a video about how the Aquila was actually stolen.
Nice video. not watched the video on latin dialogue yet but i took latin 38 yrs ago and have to say urs is more interesting. have u a video or insight of a roman logistics train? How much does a legion need to feed itself for a campaign. For easy start the invasion of Anglesey?
It speaks well of the series that you have to look very closely before finding a possible bad prop.
You have to look closely to find flagrant non-historical things, the script is a whole different story.
it's like two pages of original sources and it brings up the important parts without hitting them too hard.
Awesome Video and awesome content about the Romans and Germanic tribes. Greetings from a Germanic tribesman ;-)
Fun series, well presented. Netflix needs to put you on its recommended hire list for producers looking for research producers on these kinds of period productions.
as always your videos are great. The key thing I thought was wrong with the camp is that the trees are far too close! They would not have built a camp where an enemy could get so close without being seen
@Metatron would love to hear your opinion on this one topic.
Iam sure you heard of the theory
“Jerusalem - Tempelmount”
There are many that believe that the Plato is where the temple once stand but there are very interesting theories that on this place was the Roman fort.
Would love to hear your opinion on this.
🤙
I love your content about the romans.
Greetings from germany!
How is that I watch you for years and only noticed now I'm not subscribed? It is fixed now!
I think the exit scene was implying that it was darker, so they weren't recognized as Romans.
My real question was, could the other 2 barbarians really have entered the way they did?
They just did... But no logic in it...
@@williamthekiller7219 I don't understand?
@@devinthunderstrike it means they did not put any effort to it
They have plot armor,
There's no logic to how they did it because it's not possible,
@@williamthekiller7219 So that was just as ridiculous a tactic as entering through the main gate with a prostitute, I get it.
@@devinthunderstrike yes sir
As far as I can remember Augustus reduced the number of legions in the Empire to 22 after defeating Anthony.
Losing 3 in Teutoburg means you are left with 19. 8 Legions sent after the Eagles means almost half. Send almost half of your entire remaining armed forces will show how much you were pissed at those poor idiots.
Also, I love how you described the Roman empire as a self replicating entity. Hmm, any other massive thing in the news self replicating in others space? Roman Empire, Roma... Rona, what would more of those thing put together be? The Thing is heralding an empire? (sarcasm obviously, hopefully won't get banned)
@CipiRipi00 Ok. Thank you
The punishment those guards would have received is unfathomable. The saying, Roman legions feared their centurion more than they feared their enemies is something that tells you that's the Legions don't fuck up. So thusnelda and folkwin walking through as easy as they did? Nuh it wouldn't have happened.
Excellent video.
The first thing that struck me when we saw the camp was that the forest comes right up to the walls. Surely they would have cleared that right back.
Almost every British archaeologist says that Roman castra are all the same, except where they all are different. The only commonality is the variations!
I was at the site at Kalkriese, Germany, yesterday (where they found the face mask and one complete lorica segmentata and LOADS of other stuff). Of course the museum is closed due to covid but the archeological park was open. The "old" background story of the whole battle was based on the wall and trench they dug out, which is documented by excavations. The theory was, that the Germanic tribes build a long wall right at the forest and attacked the marching roman troops from behind the wall. One thing that was always on my mind was: why didn't roman scouts discover this (must be super long) wall? You describe scouting and searching for suitable camp sites. They would have checked that for sure and would have seen that this was an obvious trap. It's pretty interesting that you also mention that wall and trench building was going on very quickly, even under heavy attack. It correlates with the wall that was found, and that archeologists and historians now tend to see as a wall built by the romans, not the Germanic tribes. So Kalkriese, where archeologists think might have been some heavy fighting going on, was this maybe an emergency camp that was set up under heavy attack? Maybe. Roman tools were found right by the wall. The Romans were capable of doing that rapid building and holding that position, despite attacks from within the forest. We know that the battle went on for several days. This would support this approach. Thanks for pointing this all out, very well researched information here!
After watching your reviews on the series Barbarem man i watched the entire season while i was driving last night. As for the actors and actresses I think they all did beautifully and i really don't see the issues of white and black except that it adds a bit of a character twist to it. The season ended with Tusnelda's parents getting beheaded and her child getting taken to Rome as well as her. I won't is there's a second season? It'll be great to see a continuation to it. By the way i live your pronunciation of the Latin.
This man puts on his armour to stroke his gladius regularly!!!!
Hey Metraton, have you taken a look at the Archaeological record when it comes to roman forts?
Also when it comes to cities. The romans adapted their orthogonal ideal to the terrain more than you make it come across.
ill subscribe..... but only because you always sneak in some new miniatures in the background every chance! ; )
Barbarians is one of those TV shows where the budget constraints are obvious. In the whole of Germania the main locations are one village and a small Roman camp set augmented with a bunch of CG with about 50 extras and 5 horses.
Sadly, I cannot watch the show, because we do not have Netflix. However, I am highly interested if you did some more analysis of the show. I simply love to learn more about the Romans, so please continue this series. Also, if professional filmmakers learn that the audience gets more knowledgeable about the details, they are forced to put more work into their series/movies. Now that would be a trend I could absolutely identify with! Let's work on it...
I enjoyed the Netflix series and your series! Thank you.
HBO's Rome also pulled off an Eagle stealing plot, but there was really not much shown about it... that wasn't supposed to be the incident with the Sicambri, was it?
I did have strong suspicions about this Eagle stealing mission was unprobable, really glad that you elaborated on it!
Givova tracksuit. Now, that's Class.
(Jokes aside...il video é tanta, tanta roba. Come sempre)