The trd pro is 66k that’s just insane 70k with taxes for a midsize truck that’s almost 20k over the last gen wtf!! The ranger raptor 57k is a much better option v6 turbo 400hp 450tq
I completely agree the prices are absolutely ridiculous. But keep in mind toyota has always been expensive. In general with Toyota you're paying for name AND quality. The new gen has yet to prove itself but a few years ago when prices for everything blew up toyota was comparable to everything else, now they are raising prices to be more like usual.
Showing the back seat tells you everything you need to know about the comfort of a Tacoma. Sat in one a couple of weeks ago. Being 6'1" 210lbs I barely fit in the front, and I couldn't sit in the back.
I call it the Tacoma curse. I'm not a big Toyota guy and neither are my family and friends but I rode in the back of a previous gen Taco and my knees were practically touching my chin. I'm 6 foot 1 in tall. It's an odd sensation to step UP into a vehicle that has such a high floor and limited vertical space. Older Tacos also had this problem but it was WORSE. Especially the early 2000s 4 door Tacomas.I was hoping that these new models were going to fix that decades old issue but apparently not. You don't get that sensation sitting in the back of a GM midsize. It feels like a regular truck in the back just with less space, without having that knees-in-your-chest sensation that these Tacomas are famous for.
@@beexiong2995 A 2024 Tacoma with a 6' bed is 2" LONGER than a 2008 F-150 while offering something like 30-40% less passenger and cargo space. This Tacoma hybrid also has a slightly worse EPA rating than the F-150 hybrid.
A midsized truck shouldn’t cost more than 45k at most for the top trim with every available option. The consumer buys and sets the price. Stop buying overpriced vehicles
45k is too high fpr a midsoze truck even the ranger raptor. The ranger raptor should cost like a base f150. Its a midsize truck man almost no one sane wants to pay that kind of price
I really want to love the new Tacoma, but the prices are ridiculous. There’s a reason dealers have new Tacomas sitting on the lot right now and that’s never been seen with an all new Toyota truck.
Also, the mid size track game was way more competition now. A few years ago the Tacoma was the best buy and now not so much sense other brands have really made their mid size trucks more appealing
@@Dusdaddy what area of the country are you in? In the NW IA, people aren’t going for it. I’ve also seen some other TH-camrs talking about it and showing their local lots.
They’re being made in Mexico for cheaper labor but the price keeps going up. I make good money but if today’s auto manufacturers think I’m going to pay 60k for a midsize truck! well I can tell you where they can stick their truck.
Been a Taco fan since the late 90s and finally bought my first Taco new in 2016. Was looking forward to this gen but now really considering a Ranger Raptor over the TRD Pro that I've been saving up for. The only thing that impresses me with this new gen Taco is the 2-tone paint scheme, nothing else seems even remotely worth the price.
In the same boat…been driving Toyotas for over twenty years but my money will be spent on a new RR later this year. Toyota got greedy AND delivered an inferior product from the last iteration.
@@josiahwyncott7519 I already own a 3rd Gen. I'm probably going to grab a Ranger Raptor in all honesty. Nothing impresses me about the 4th Gen other than its looks.
That's before markup. Anyone with older trucks, just keep them and hold off on buying new. Only way to drive the prices down is to not buy them. If you have a lot of money or need it immediately, then fine get it. Anyone using loans/financing (especially if you're young), stop paying these prices. Inflation and covid really fked up the automotive industry, but it's also people willing to be financially irresponsible to obtain these.
The nissan was already 2 generations behind when it came out. If they made a real new one then it would also cost like 66k. For every option it doesn't have add like 2500$ and its right up with the Toyota TRD
@@nathanm8921 unless I missed something the Frontier today looks better all around than the Tacoma; prior to this update of this update of the Tacoma. It performed pretty well with the 2016-2023 Tacoma which was basically a refreshed and refined 2005 Tacoma which it was based. It will be interesting if Nissan will wait another 25 years for a full refresh of their truck. Because that last generation was like last touched in about 1998.
This has to be a joke. Theres no way any company would charge this much for a midsize pickup with a 4 cylinder unless they think their buyers failed kindergarten.
What did you expect? A Pro is exotic, no different than a TRX or Raptor. And those things exceed a $100K. Just there to show what it can do. They will not be big sellers but they don't expect them to be. A $45K Off-road will be Toyota's #1 seller.
Nah I’m not a fan of the price either but this is a dumb comment. Hybrids can be designed for fuel efficiency or gaining extra torque from an electric motor. The iForce MAX is the latter, not the former. Hence the “MAX” in the name for maximum torque.
Just did a little calculating, and it will take about 170,000 miles to earn back the $3700 buy in for the hybrid. Hardly seems worth it for the added cost and complexity
There’s an old saying a sucker is born every day! And it still holds true today. Most people who don’t really need a pick up truck and brought just for the looks will pass on those prices.
People who don't really need a pickup truck but by them are why $70k midsize luxury trucks are now a thing. It's not the guys hauling and towing crap for work.
damn Toyota... may have to seriously consider the Lexus GX550 Overtrail at these prices, especially considering the unbelievable costs of the TRD pro and Trailhunter models... wow. I also expect 2025 4Runners to fall into the same price ranges as well
@@DaleWilly I'm a admin for the Facebook Tundra group. These reports are indepent from one another and I don't believe these are made up. Plenty of photos and posts about this.
Toyota LOST me forever in Tacomas. The only way they are getting me back is to CUT THE PRICE by getting rid of all the superfluous (unnecessary) gadgets and tech. Go back to a Taco that you manually shift. One with a manual shift 4wd gearbox. About all the tech I want are electric windows and Bluetooth for Apple Maps. I don’t need anything else. Toyota - make a new variant called The Tacoma Work Truck. 6.5’ bed. Extended cab with small access doors (not for humans) just for stuff in the back. Make it low slung so you can easily reach into the bed for what you need. You have completely lost your minds. You had the BEST small truck (Tacoma) and the best midsized truck (Tundra) and you absolutely BLEW IT!! I remember just a SHORT time ago (2021?) when an SR5 Tundra was $47k and an SR5 Taco was $40k. My last Taco is a 2014. My daughter now owns it. Has 130,000 miles on it. Drives like it is brand new. All it takes is oil changes. It was a TRD Sport with the hood scoop and I thought that was a little too much bling. Gosh nowadays these trucks suck. I am driving a 2022 Ford F-350 with crew cab and 8’ bed, 4wd and out the door all in I paid $62k. That F-350 can do anything TWO Tundras can do only better and I can’t even buy a Tundra for that money. Nope. Toyota lost me. I’m done buying their trucks.
a fully loaded TRD Sport hybrid will run high 50k’s OTD. that’s Ranger Raptor money. that’s absurd. a loaded Frontier Pro4x can be bought around and under 40k. that new “Toyota tax” is unseemly and gross.
I just don’t understand the point of an expensive, heavy hybrid that doesn’t improve fuel economy, and only makes up for the shortcomings of a small turbo-4. Shortcomings that wouldn’t exist for a v6.
55,000 Plus tax 5,500 Destinations 1,800 Plus finance Your looking at almost 80k over 5-6 years A thousand dollars a month who can afford that in this busted economy? They better keep manufacturing at half of what they normally produce because they priced out half their buyers
If this Engine Option is made available on the TRD Prerunner Trim (The Trim that's only available in a Supercab/XtraCab), it would quickly become one the best-selling trims in the Tacoma. Alas, If I remember correctly, it's only available on the TRD Sport, Pro, Limited, and Off-Road Trims, which makes this is REALLY Hard Sell. I would honestly consider trading up from a '23 SR5 V6 4x4 IF they make this engine available in the TRD Prerunner Trim... In about a few years time.
I like it, but doubt the Hybrid is worth the extra $. What I really want is a 1794 Tacoma with black trim, not chrome, full time 4wd like the Limited (& Landcruiser) and saddle brown leather seats! 🔥
There is a 1794 here at the dealer for 8k off msrp. Brings the total down to $62k. Has the saddle brown interior and the copper brown exterior. It's truly beautiful. The dealer is Penske Toyota in Surprise, Arizona. No black trim, has the chrome. But it looks amazing
I started laughing yesterday, and I'm still laughing. 60K plus for a buzzy 4 banger, loads of cheap looking blank buttons. HAHAHA. Whatever Toyota is smoking, pass it my way.
I wonder what the gas mileage is for non hybrid vs hybrid when towing a trailer. That would be an important piece of information. Maybe you can do an MPG loop using Blueberry and one of those hybrid Tacomas towing the same trailer?
Still driving my 2007 taco, which I bought new. After seeing the prices from not only the new Tacomas, but all new cars and trucks, I imagine I will be driving my 2007 Taco well into the future.
You guys keep talking about efficiency while reviewing trucks, this is a heavy machine not a Camry. TOYOTA should have given this hybrid Tacoma a bigger battery and a small engine to charge the battery when needed for a lot better efficiency and range but they chose to do it the other way around, which is what we have now, time will tell if this was the right choice for trucks.
Is this true? You can’t get a TRD Sport with hybrid and 6’ bed? That is unfortunate if it’s true since the range is also compromised without the hybrid option.
@@richardschmidt5865 yes for sure. I'm looking now for a 6ft bed non hybrid. Hybrid has been tested and not much improved performance only a couple more mpg. Totally disappointing hybrid
I think the new pricing is Toyota's way of steering people away from buying this impractical form factor of "mid-size trucks" lol. ALL mid-size trucks have really cramped and super upright 2nd row seats; so uncomfortable for long trips.
Drive in a city, 0-50 on and off all day. Compare that to a non hybid . Thats where they shine. Compare it one day . Gas versus hybrid in the city. Just do it .
@robertrousseaux1059 I did the comparison. I used an online gas vs. hybrid vehicle savings calculator. The common parameters I used were 12,000 miles per year and $3.65/gallon (national average as of today as reported by AAA). For the gas vehicle, I used the city mpg specs for the 2024 Tacoma Limited 4WD, which was 20 mpg as shown on Toyota's website. For the hybrid vehicle, I used the city mpg specs for the 2024 Tacoma Limited Hybrid 4WD, which was 23 mpg as shown on Toyota's website.. I used the base MSRP for both vehicles as shown on Toyota's website, which were $52,100 for the non-hybrid and $55,800 for the hybrid. The break even point where the gas savings of the hybrid equalled that of the extra price of the hybrid was 13 years. Most people don’t keep a vehicle that long. I'm all for hybrids, but there's just not much advantage here from a purely fuel economy standpoint for the Tacoma. That seems to be the case of most hybrids that use a longitudinally mounted setup with a traditional stepped gear transmission. They just don't get the huge efficiency gains of the planetary gearset with CVT hybrid setups such as in the Toyota Prius, Ford Maverick, etc.
It's a pretty truck. What's its purpose? It has a terrible payload. The hybrid has a lot more torque, yet doesn't tow more. The hybrid fuel economy sucks. The price is insane. I'm scratching my head. What. Is. The. Point? The Nissan Frontier seems to be the only midsize truck on the market with a level head on its shoulders. A naturally aspirated V6, 6ft bed, and the availability of a King Cab. Tacoma has become a "lifestyle vehicle" rather than an actual pickup truck. If you like driving a truck but don't really NEED a truck, and if you want hybrid fuel economy, the Ford Maverick makes a hell of a lot more sense than this Tacoma Hybrid.
@@theoutdoordad7395 the 2023 Frontier was rated half a point higher for reliability over the Tacoma by RepairPal. Plus, the Frontier has a 26yr track record of excellent reliability and better value.
So they put everything in the same platform and same engine for cost cutting measures and this somehow puts the trucks over $10k in value? What am I missing here?
If you want hood struts guess you have to spend more money to go buy a pair of hood struts. And, if the hood struts fail then the prop rod is still there.
Been waiting a long time to get MPG numbers for the Tacoma Hybrid. Not impressed with 24mpg. My 2024 Maverick hybrid is getting nearly 40mpg. Was looking to get the new Tacoma to replace my 2022 Ram but I think I’ll just keep what I have and run the Maverick 90% of the time.
I'm so disappointed with toyotas pricing. U can go and buy a Ram 1500 with a hemi for less than what these tacomas are priced at. The initial fan boys with infinite money will buy one. The rest of us will hold on to our money.
If it were geared more towards fuel efficiency, some people would be complaining saying "Why doesn't it have more torque?" So no matter what, you can't please everyone.
They better start getting these prices back down in the 20's, all of this electric tailgate is ridiculous, need to go back to manual everything window, door locks, seats, on cruise control. 24 mpg for a hybrid and 5500lbs is ridiculous.
Nobody is forcing you to buy a luxury pickup. Comparing an SR5 Double Cab 4x4, adjusting for inflation, the 2024 is only $3000 more than in 2004 while offering a lot more power, comfort, safety, and capability. But yes the hybrid is ridiculous, that mileage isn't any better than an F-150 hybrid, which itself is pretty hard to justify.
My 2023 F150 XLT Powerboost gets 23/23/23 mpg, and if I dive it easy I get 25+ around town/country roads. Kind of interesting that this little tacoma barely manages more. My truck also has 430HP/570 ft-lbs and cost only 55.5k...Absolutely baffling how expensive these Tacoma's have gotten.
Insane pricing on the Tacomas!!! I really hope consumers balk and Toyota has to back down. We are on the edge of a huge economic crash I feel. Consumers just can't keep absorbing this high inflation on everything.
Why bother with more hp and torque if it only tows 5k? My small 23ft camper weighs over 4k, empty. I was stoked for the release, but now just confused. Don't just put a battery in it, toyota. Change the suspension to keep towing numbers up to non hybrids. What's up with the engineers?
The hybrid is the way to go. Already seeing videos of new tacoma owners with 35 inch tires overheating up the transmission and turbo's due to the gearing. Many owners of turbo trucks that tow understand the need to lock out gears when towing to ensure the turbo's don't overheat. I do not think most thought this would happen with just a tire upgrade. So get the hybrid not because it needs more power but because it helps keep wear on the turbo and engine down. Toyota may address this in the future with a transmission update but will lead to gear hunting again etc.
There’s no point to the hybrid. Even if you drive only in the city it will take around 150k miles for the hybrid system to pay for itself. The non-hybrid already has plenty of horsepower and torque. (Calculation assuming gas around $4/gal)
The hybrid isn’t for gas mileage, it’s to gain more torque. That’s the point of the hybrid. You’re making the assumption that all hybrids are for saving gas which is not true. They can either be tuned for fuel efficiency, or for torque.
@@jmpattillo Well, to be honest here, its riding on 33 inch offroad tires as well. Combine that with all the extra weight, and its actually getting significantly good gas mileage on top of the extra power. If you went to larger more aggressive tires on a third gen tacoma, and loaded it to the point that the 4th gen Trailhunter is with steel armor, its gas mileage would drop significantly. So with that being said, 22/24 is actually quite good. For the sake of the point I am making, I'm still someone to buy a Nissan Frontier PRO-4X due to pricing. Or even a Ranger Raptor because its a lot less and comes fully loaded. But I do understand the point behind the hybrid powertrain and why its mandatory on the Trailhunter and PRO trims.
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The trd pro is 66k that’s just insane 70k with taxes for a midsize truck that’s almost 20k over the last gen wtf!! The ranger raptor 57k is a much better option v6 turbo 400hp 450tq
Thank the government for those prices!
@@getlosttoday4045 I think the price of the Tacoma is more corporate greed in this case.
I completely agree the prices are absolutely ridiculous. But keep in mind toyota has always been expensive. In general with Toyota you're paying for name AND quality. The new gen has yet to prove itself but a few years ago when prices for everything blew up toyota was comparable to everything else, now they are raising prices to be more like usual.
Agree. For 8-10k more you can get a 3/4 or 1 ton with a diesel
@@Damien-qq4nznot really , everything and everyone went up in price , it’s called inflation, don’t like it , government doesn’t care 😂
My 2017 gen 2 Colorado diesel with lifetime 29 mpg is feeling even better now.
NOT
Diesel cannot be compared to gas. Irrelevant post
lol. Your colorados interior has a lifespan of 7-8 years. Due to cheap materials they degrade 3-4 times faster.
Judging by their comments I think the Tacoma fan boys are butt hurt.
Its an italian engine dude its not legit jts also overpriced junk
So happy with my decision to buy a 2024 Nissan Pro4X fully loaded for $47k. These prices for mid sized trucks are ridiculous.
Then why are you looking at toyota? 😂 hmmm
@@jmyers6175entertainment, read toyota fanboy comments and laugh. You choose.
You overpaid
Glad you like your truck, that is $20k more than I would have signed on for though.
You should've just got a 3rd gen Tacoma for that money. 47k for a Frontier is steep.
Showing the back seat tells you everything you need to know about the comfort of a Tacoma. Sat in one a couple of weeks ago. Being 6'1" 210lbs I barely fit in the front, and I couldn't sit in the back.
Plus to add salt to the wound there's no storage under the seat now. Not sure what they're thinking with that?
You are too big. You need a fullsize. Both Roman and Andre are 6'3 or more and near 260lbs. Thats fullsize truck people
Lose weight
I call it the Tacoma curse. I'm not a big Toyota guy and neither are my family and friends but I rode in the back of a previous gen Taco and my knees were practically touching my chin. I'm 6 foot 1 in tall. It's an odd sensation to step UP into a vehicle that has such a high floor and limited vertical space. Older Tacos also had this problem but it was WORSE. Especially the early 2000s 4 door Tacomas.I was hoping that these new models were going to fix that decades old issue but apparently not. You don't get that sensation sitting in the back of a GM midsize. It feels like a regular truck in the back just with less space, without having that knees-in-your-chest sensation that these Tacomas are famous for.
@@beexiong2995 A 2024 Tacoma with a 6' bed is 2" LONGER than a 2008 F-150 while offering something like 30-40% less passenger and cargo space. This Tacoma hybrid also has a slightly worse EPA rating than the F-150 hybrid.
A midsized truck shouldn’t cost more than 45k at most for the top trim with every available option. The consumer buys and sets the price. Stop buying overpriced vehicles
Hold the line….don’t buy
45k is too high fpr a midsoze truck even the ranger raptor. The ranger raptor should cost like a base f150. Its a midsize truck man almost no one sane wants to pay that kind of price
@@TheAnnoyingBossand yet, it’s sold out. It’s actually worth the price. It’s a lot more capable than most other trucks
They're not trucks anymore. They're "lifestyle vehicles".
Amen. Too bad fools with too much money don't care and will buy anyway.
90% of customers if not more would delete the rear tailgate technology to save on price.
Agreed, it is pretty silly.
Such a ridiculous feature. If it could save $100 I would pass on it.
is alos 4 cylinder
I want it I would get it on a SR If I brought it. But 70k is insane
@@juddlebot21464 cylinders aren’t real trucks
I really want to love the new Tacoma, but the prices are ridiculous. There’s a reason dealers have new Tacomas sitting on the lot right now and that’s never been seen with an all new Toyota truck.
Interest rates. A few years ago when interest rates where at 0 and prices where higher, you couldn't find a car.
Also, the mid size track game was way more competition now. A few years ago the Tacoma was the best buy and now not so much sense other brands have really made their mid size trucks more appealing
Every 2024 delivered to my dealer has lasted less than a week. I keep going back to look at one and it's gone!
@@Dusdaddy what area of the country are you in? In the NW IA, people aren’t going for it. I’ve also seen some other TH-camrs talking about it and showing their local lots.
@@cpftank09 Western PA and it's pretty common here for them to be gone. Probably because they dealers do not mark them up, they enjoy selling trucks.
They’re being made in Mexico for cheaper labor but the price keeps going up. I make good money but if today’s auto manufacturers think I’m going to pay 60k for a midsize truck! well I can tell you where they can stick their truck.
Agree, but people keep buying. People have the power if they could stick together
Been a Taco fan since the late 90s and finally bought my first Taco new in 2016. Was looking forward to this gen but now really considering a Ranger Raptor over the TRD Pro that I've been saving up for. The only thing that impresses me with this new gen Taco is the 2-tone paint scheme, nothing else seems even remotely worth the price.
In the same boat…been driving Toyotas for over twenty years but my money will be spent on a new RR later this year. Toyota got greedy AND delivered an inferior product from the last iteration.
Who gives a rats ass about 2-tone paint scheme.
Just go buy a '23 or '22 TRD for a nice discount.
@@josiahwyncott7519 I already own a 3rd Gen. I'm probably going to grab a Ranger Raptor in all honesty. Nothing impresses me about the 4th Gen other than its looks.
That's before markup. Anyone with older trucks, just keep them and hold off on buying new. Only way to drive the prices down is to not buy them. If you have a lot of money or need it immediately, then fine get it. Anyone using loans/financing (especially if you're young), stop paying these prices. Inflation and covid really fked up the automotive industry, but it's also people willing to be financially irresponsible to obtain these.
2012 Taco owner here. TRD Pro. 💯
The engine started because you popped the hood. It’s a safety feature.
Andre's wardrobe is Costco.... just like mine.
Me three 🎉
wardrobe of champions
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Kirk Cousins status
He is a cheap guy🤣
That Nissan frontier is looking better and better
The thumbnail looked like a Frontier to me
Looking older and older you mean. Ancient and it costs 50k
@@beexiong2995 what you mean the 2024 All New Frontier?
The nissan was already 2 generations behind when it came out. If they made a real new one then it would also cost like 66k. For every option it doesn't have add like 2500$ and its right up with the Toyota TRD
@@nathanm8921 unless I missed something the Frontier today looks better all around than the Tacoma; prior to this update of this update of the Tacoma. It performed pretty well with the 2016-2023 Tacoma which was basically a refreshed and refined 2005 Tacoma which it was based.
It will be interesting if Nissan will wait another 25 years for a full refresh of their truck. Because that last generation was like last touched in about 1998.
The small crew cab is just a deal killer for me. I've seen the truck in person and it's smaller than I expected.
When these two are together it feels like a Cheech and Chong reunion at 65 years years old.
This has to be a joke. Theres no way any company would charge this much for a midsize pickup with a 4 cylinder unless they think their buyers failed kindergarten.
You must be slow or just plain stupid cause Chevy been doing it the whole time and u idiots still eat that trash up 😂
WELL GUESS WHAT? THIS IS WORTH EVERY PENNY
the topic yes, the truck hard no@@DaleWilly
You forgot turbo and hybrid.
This is America, public education has been failing students for years. Best teachers in the world.
The best thing to do with this truck is leave it at the dealership.
Was expecting higher MPGs
Nope not worth the price. $65k for the pro - Are you shitting me!
Can say the same about Chevy but u idiots still buy that low quality junk 😂
You can buy a base model Tacoma for $31,000
@@NomenClature-o8s a 2wd pickup truck. No thanks
@@appleztoorangeswell don't complain when given options.
What did you expect? A Pro is exotic, no different than a TRX or Raptor. And those things exceed a $100K. Just there to show what it can do. They will not be big sellers but they don't expect them to be. A $45K Off-road will be Toyota's #1 seller.
24 MPG combined... LMFAO! A $60k dollar HYBRID mid size truck and only 24 mpg.
What else do u want from a heavy mid size 😂 , even Mazda only gets 25 mpg lol
This truck is far too expensive for the fuel mileage and power it delivers.
@@Parker53151 sounds like u need to talk to Chevy too , get with the times old man lol
@@Parker53151since when is dollar amount equal to mpg? I get that folx are upset but like the non sensical speak is just getting …😅
Nah I’m not a fan of the price either but this is a dumb comment. Hybrids can be designed for fuel efficiency or gaining extra torque from an electric motor. The iForce MAX is the latter, not the former. Hence the “MAX” in the name for maximum torque.
TRD Pro Taco will start at 75K in Canada and though I have always wanted one I will not support a vehicle made exclusively in Mexico.
Just did a little calculating, and it will take about 170,000 miles to earn back the $3700 buy in for the hybrid. Hardly seems worth it for the added cost and complexity
Depends what you are buying it for.
If I was in the Market I'd probably stick with the non hybrid version.
It's for power
worth EVERY penny
Especially complexity - and if any of that breaks and - I know it will. Big $$$
Im getting 24 plus on highway driving on my 22 Frontier!
There’s an old saying a sucker is born every day! And it still holds true today. Most people who don’t really need a pick up truck and brought just for the looks will pass on those prices.
People who don't really need a pickup truck but by them are why $70k midsize luxury trucks are now a thing. It's not the guys hauling and towing crap for work.
@@palebeachbum agree %100.00
nissan frontier pro4x is a steal
Nissan has also approved 10% off invoice pricing. The Frontier is looking like the best way to spend your money
Blueberry got over 24mpg hwy on your loop test. The Hybrid should perform even better. Toyota is low balling in to CYA themselves. Great Vid guys!
All new 2024 with price jump of $10k and made in Mexico to save Toyota money. Good business strategy Toyota. 👏🏾
If it doesn’t increase the towing limit or the fuel economy what’s the point?
The gas only tacoma gets 4 mpg less. I dunno what you are talking about
@@beexiong2995Only 4 mpg is not worth it
@@angelgjr1999 only 4 mpg? Thats a lot better. And it gets better in city stop and go traffic thats where gas mileage sucks the most.
@@beexiong2995 is that extra 4 mpg worth the 10 grand??
damn Toyota... may have to seriously consider the Lexus GX550 Overtrail at these prices, especially considering the unbelievable costs of the TRD pro and Trailhunter models... wow. I also expect 2025 4Runners to fall into the same price ranges as well
Way too expensive this is the result of asking for more technology And features👏👏👏 now people can’t afford it that’s genius
U mean the poor and middle class can’t , don’t speak for everyone now 😂
Toyota weeding out the pretenders and therefore helping people stay out of debt 😂
Remember when the previous 200-series was sold for 85K and people complaining it was too expensive? The LX600 starts at 94K.
that’s not a $15-20k difference tho.
Price $56,225.00
Hope that volume knob doesn't break as easy as the Tundra? We have a lot of reports of this knob cracking off eastly.
well it is lies, they DON'T break
@@DaleWilly I'm a admin for the Facebook Tundra group. These reports are indepent from one another and I don't believe these are made up. Plenty of photos and posts about this.
Toyota LOST me forever in Tacomas. The only way they are getting me back is to CUT THE PRICE by getting rid of all the superfluous (unnecessary) gadgets and tech.
Go back to a Taco that you manually shift. One with a manual shift 4wd gearbox. About all the tech I want are electric windows and Bluetooth for Apple Maps. I don’t need anything else.
Toyota - make a new variant called The Tacoma Work Truck. 6.5’ bed. Extended cab with small access doors (not for humans) just for stuff in the back. Make it low slung so you can easily reach into the bed for what you need.
You have completely lost your minds. You had the BEST small truck (Tacoma) and the best midsized truck (Tundra) and you absolutely BLEW IT!! I remember just a SHORT time ago (2021?) when an SR5 Tundra was $47k and an SR5 Taco was $40k.
My last Taco is a 2014. My daughter now owns it. Has 130,000 miles on it. Drives like it is brand new. All it takes is oil changes. It was a TRD Sport with the hood scoop and I thought that was a little too much bling.
Gosh nowadays these trucks suck.
I am driving a 2022 Ford F-350 with crew cab and 8’ bed, 4wd and out the door all in I paid $62k. That F-350 can do anything TWO Tundras can do only better and I can’t even buy a Tundra for that money.
Nope. Toyota lost me. I’m done buying their trucks.
a fully loaded TRD Sport hybrid will run high 50k’s OTD. that’s Ranger Raptor money. that’s absurd. a loaded Frontier Pro4x can be bought around and under 40k. that new “Toyota tax” is unseemly and gross.
Man if you’re going to title the video with a question at least provide an initial answer.
The point is for you to answer for yourself after watching the video
@@FlyingSparks12336 no kidding thanks for pointing that out professor
I just don’t understand the point of an expensive, heavy hybrid that doesn’t improve fuel economy, and only makes up for the shortcomings of a small turbo-4. Shortcomings that wouldn’t exist for a v6.
Perfectly valid argument if you don't actually look at the numbers for them "shortcomings".
Did you delete your comment cuz you realize you dum?
That awesome 4x4 system should break easy with that torque number
55,000
Plus tax 5,500
Destinations 1,800
Plus finance
Your looking at almost 80k over 5-6 years
A thousand dollars a month who can afford that in this busted economy?
They better keep manufacturing at half of what they normally produce because they priced out half their buyers
Love Toyotas but their value is whack now. If you want bang for your buck subaru and Honda are your best bet. Only new Toyota I’d buy now is a Camry.
This pig weighs 1000 lbs more than my ‘22 F150 😂
And?
@@kpmmsupervision1297 you don't see anything wrong with a midsize truck weighing more than a full size truck?!
@@kpmmsupervision1297 and.... you are dumb.
If this Engine Option is made available on the TRD Prerunner Trim (The Trim that's only available in a Supercab/XtraCab), it would quickly become one the best-selling trims in the Tacoma.
Alas, If I remember correctly, it's only available on the TRD Sport, Pro, Limited, and Off-Road Trims, which makes this is REALLY Hard Sell.
I would honestly consider trading up from a '23 SR5 V6 4x4 IF they make this engine available in the TRD Prerunner Trim... In about a few years time.
Tacoma Hybrid review, where Andre and Roman were stalking and sheep were worried!
At these prices uber will never go away! This truck is twice what i paid for a Ford xlt hybrid
I like it, but doubt the Hybrid is worth the extra $. What I really want is a 1794 Tacoma with black trim, not chrome, full time 4wd like the Limited (& Landcruiser) and saddle brown leather seats! 🔥
Just get a Stout
30K
My ICE Forester gets way better gas mileage and its non hybrid. This is embarassing numbers
Agreed
@@tomahawk7259 Different class of vehicle.
There is a 1794 here at the dealer for 8k off msrp. Brings the total down to $62k. Has the saddle brown interior and the copper brown exterior. It's truly beautiful. The dealer is Penske Toyota in Surprise, Arizona. No black trim, has the chrome. But it looks amazing
It's nice Toyota moved the led lights in the bed above the wheel wells, I would like to see one in the front center of the bed .
Let’s be honest, the most off roading these trucks will ever do is going over a speed bump in the mall parking lot.
That's a good thing that's all they are capable of
Overpriced for what it is. That is F150 XLT pricing
Yup. I cancelled my order and am going full size. And sure ain’t Toyota anymore.
UMM IT IS WORTH EVERY PENNY TROLL
@@BC_Hunter YOUR LOSS, WE DON'T CARE
@@DaleWilly You mad bro 😂
@@IKnewMickey go sk one
I started laughing yesterday, and I'm still laughing. 60K plus for a buzzy 4 banger, loads of cheap looking blank buttons. HAHAHA. Whatever Toyota is smoking, pass it my way.
Idk why you’re laughing , everything in Toyota and Chevy line up is 4 banger 😂 even the Lexus has cheap looking interiors at times
@@cormaro13 Exactly why I won't buy any of those.
Keep laughing because the V-8 and V6’s are going away.
@@NomenClature-o8s Exactly why I'm going with a Ranger Lariat FX4.
@@truthserum5310 Cool, but be aware that JD Powers in 2023 rated Ford as 28th for reliability, just a little ahead of Land Rover. 😂
Note. Air Compressor is available as an accessory on other trims. However, it is over $1,000.
I really wanna get a new taco, love the looks but it being 4 cyl and at that price is 😬😬😬
I just know after these videos and pricing announcements that know a whole lot more people are waiting for the 2.7 ranger to hit the market
Great point: It should be more geared for efficiency. Otherwise, why hybrid?
Probably because efficiency really don't sell trucks.
redarc makes a great plug & play in dash trailer brake controller for 4runners and tacoma’s with trailer hitches.
Unaffordable......
I wonder what the gas mileage is for non hybrid vs hybrid when towing a trailer. That would be an important piece of information. Maybe you can do an MPG loop using Blueberry and one of those hybrid Tacomas towing the same trailer?
I come back to TFL vids now and then and am constantly turned off by Roman's negative outlook on nearly everything.
Still driving my 2007 taco, which I bought new. After seeing the prices from not only the new Tacomas, but all new cars and trucks, I imagine I will be driving my 2007 Taco well into the future.
And by the time you need to replace your current Tacoma, the new model will be over 100k....
Nissan Frontier and Nissan Canyon are looking real good now.
I wouldnt pay near 50k for an outdated truck from 2005
@@beexiong2995 you can get them for less. Pro4X you can get for well under 40k
Pass 😂
@@beexiong2995 you can get a Pro4X for under 40k.
you can get a full size ram classic 1500 , for only 43,000 dollars, and get 24 MPG,
and V 6 motor
You guys keep talking about efficiency while reviewing trucks, this is a heavy machine not a Camry.
TOYOTA should have given this hybrid Tacoma a bigger battery and a small engine to charge the battery when needed for a lot better efficiency and range but they chose to do it the other way around, which is what we have now, time will tell if this was the right choice for trucks.
Prius has a big hatch. Pull the headrest off the front passenger seat and put it flat you fit 8’ lumber with the hatch closed.
Going with non hybrid after seeing performance isn't much better. Plus only 6ft bed in hybrid is trailhunter can't afford that. Thanks for sharing
Is this true? You can’t get a TRD Sport with hybrid and 6’ bed? That is unfortunate if it’s true since the range is also compromised without the hybrid option.
@@richardschmidt5865 yes for sure. I'm looking now for a 6ft bed non hybrid. Hybrid has been tested and not much improved performance only a couple more mpg. Totally disappointing hybrid
I saw that in the press release from Toyota. Feels like a huge miss. 6' bed is the best!
With increased torque you would expect an increase in towing capacity!? What happened? Transmission limitations?
How that truck doesn't get at least 30 mpg with all that is ridiculous.
57K cash out the door is just to much money!!
Get with the times , new standard
@@cormaro13 employers aren't willing to pay people for the times.
@@palebeachbumcorrect. Working for yourself and do your own hustle is the only way to be rich. Which is needed to buy these toys.
The TRD pro is $65-66 before options, accessories, fees, and taxes
@@americandude3825 crazy!!
I think the new pricing is Toyota's way of steering people away from buying this impractical form factor of "mid-size trucks" lol. ALL mid-size trucks have really cramped and super upright 2nd row seats; so uncomfortable for long trips.
Just buy a Frontier while you can, Pro4X fully loaded v6 22mpg 46,390 out the door
Not a Toyota 😂
ain’t that crazy? a NA V6 with almost the same MPG at a buzzy hybrid 4 banger lol. toyota has lost their way big time
And you can actually tolerate the seats for longer than a 5 minute ride 😂
You guys rock! Thanks for the video.
Drive in a city, 0-50 on and off all day. Compare that to a non hybid . Thats where they shine. Compare it one day . Gas versus hybrid in the city.
Just do it .
Most people aren’t buying pickups to drive in the city. Esp a TRD Pro.
@robertrousseaux1059 I did the comparison. I used an online gas vs. hybrid vehicle savings calculator. The common parameters I used were 12,000 miles per year and $3.65/gallon (national average as of today as reported by AAA). For the gas vehicle, I used the city mpg specs for the 2024 Tacoma Limited 4WD, which was 20 mpg as shown on Toyota's website. For the hybrid vehicle, I used the city mpg specs for the 2024 Tacoma Limited Hybrid 4WD, which was 23 mpg as shown on Toyota's website.. I used the base MSRP for both vehicles as shown on Toyota's website, which were $52,100 for the non-hybrid and $55,800 for the hybrid. The break even point where the gas savings of the hybrid equalled that of the extra price of the hybrid was 13 years. Most people don’t keep a vehicle that long. I'm all for hybrids, but there's just not much advantage here from a purely fuel economy standpoint for the Tacoma. That seems to be the case of most hybrids that use a longitudinally mounted setup with a traditional stepped gear transmission. They just don't get the huge efficiency gains of the planetary gearset with CVT hybrid setups such as in the Toyota Prius, Ford Maverick, etc.
How did they get the same payload in that truck as they do in your truck when that truck has way more options and a battery?
Never thought I’d see the day when the Tacoma cost more than a tundra
2015 TRD Pro was more expensive than a 2015 Tundra SR5 Double Cab 5.7 4wd.
More torque but for how long? Can it even last an Ike run while towing maxed out? The batteries are small.
The engine charges the batteries. The torque is constant power it doesn't simply run out. All hybrids do this even the 1st gen prius. Nothing new here
@@beexiong2995 Yeah but does it charge it at a constant full throttle application like towing up a mountain?
It's a pretty truck. What's its purpose? It has a terrible payload. The hybrid has a lot more torque, yet doesn't tow more. The hybrid fuel economy sucks. The price is insane. I'm scratching my head. What. Is. The. Point? The Nissan Frontier seems to be the only midsize truck on the market with a level head on its shoulders. A naturally aspirated V6, 6ft bed, and the availability of a King Cab. Tacoma has become a "lifestyle vehicle" rather than an actual pickup truck. If you like driving a truck but don't really NEED a truck, and if you want hybrid fuel economy, the Ford Maverick makes a hell of a lot more sense than this Tacoma Hybrid.
The Frontier reliability sucks it no Toyota substitute.
@@theoutdoordad7395 the 2023 Frontier was rated half a point higher for reliability over the Tacoma by RepairPal. Plus, the Frontier has a 26yr track record of excellent reliability and better value.
Bingo! Lifestyle vehicle. You need this truck with a roof top tent or you are not cool and your IG will suck. Haha
The frontier is direct injection only they had to screw it up somehow. Idiots.
Only mall crawlers can afford the higher end! 😂
So they put everything in the same platform and same engine for cost cutting measures and this somehow puts the trucks over $10k in value? What am I missing here?
I don't think Toyota anything in 2024 is worth the extra money :(
You know who else liked to say that about driving torque? Bob Lutz; the guy who said it first.
Beautiful truck! Thank you for the video.
Glad you liked it!
If Toyota could get back to making actual compact trucks that would be great.
Blame cafe standards for that
So does the hybrid make a noticeable difference while driving on road?
Considering it only gets 24 MPG combined, not for the money. Just get the Colorado you’ll get the same MPG cheaper.
yes about 8-10k cheaper with same options@@ramseynicholson7902
@@ramseynicholson7902😂 nobody wants a piece of junk Chevy , it’s just going to end up in the shop for warranty work and more work 😂
@@cormaro13I agree with you whole heartedly, but I’d prefer the Chevy over the ranger imo
@@ramseynicholson7902 that’s sad , when u grow up and get a better brand let us know 😂
Why get an onboard compressor that will cost a fortune to replace when you have 120 v power outlets in the bed?
As much as a Tacoma costs it still has a prop rod instead of hood struts.
I really don’t care for something that I only enjoy when doing engine maintenance. I prefer the weight saving and reliability of the prop 😮
If you want hood struts guess you have to spend more money to go buy a pair of hood struts. And, if the hood struts fail then the prop rod is still there.
Been waiting a long time to get MPG numbers for the Tacoma Hybrid. Not impressed with 24mpg. My 2024 Maverick hybrid is getting nearly 40mpg. Was looking to get the new Tacoma to replace my 2022 Ram but I think I’ll just keep what I have and run the Maverick 90% of the time.
The hybrid isn’t for MPG, it’s for torque and power increase. Hence the 330hp and 450ft/lbs of torque
So it picked up what like 3-4 mpg and $10K in price. I love Toyota but they move at a glacial rate.
only take about 12-15 yrs to recoup the upcharge for the hybrid
@@kidamere2408By then it’ll need a new battery 😂
Among the high tier Tacoma trucks this limited hybrid is at least the best value for the money including that smooth adaptive suspension
I'm so disappointed with toyotas pricing. U can go and buy a Ram 1500 with a hemi for less than what these tacomas are priced at. The initial fan boys with infinite money will buy one. The rest of us will hold on to our money.
Just wait. Eventually idiots will learn to not get 84 month loans at 1200 a month…
If it were geared more towards fuel efficiency, some people would be complaining saying "Why doesn't it have more torque?" So no matter what, you can't please everyone.
They better start getting these prices back down in the 20's, all of this electric tailgate is ridiculous, need to go back to manual everything window, door locks, seats, on cruise control. 24 mpg for a hybrid and 5500lbs is ridiculous.
Nobody is forcing you to buy a luxury pickup. Comparing an SR5 Double Cab 4x4, adjusting for inflation, the 2024 is only $3000 more than in 2004 while offering a lot more power, comfort, safety, and capability. But yes the hybrid is ridiculous, that mileage isn't any better than an F-150 hybrid, which itself is pretty hard to justify.
My 2023 F150 XLT Powerboost gets 23/23/23 mpg, and if I dive it easy I get 25+ around town/country roads. Kind of interesting that this little tacoma barely manages more. My truck also has 430HP/570 ft-lbs and cost only 55.5k...Absolutely baffling how expensive these Tacoma's have gotten.
It cost more, doesn’t tow more, has less payload, isn’t much more fuel efficient, and it is way more complex. It’s hard to see upside.
Insane pricing on the Tacomas!!! I really hope consumers balk and Toyota has to back down. We are on the edge of a huge economic crash I feel. Consumers just can't keep absorbing this high inflation on everything.
I thought those sheep were rocks too😁😁
Why bother with more hp and torque if it only tows 5k? My small 23ft camper weighs over 4k, empty. I was stoked for the release, but now just confused. Don't just put a battery in it, toyota. Change the suspension to keep towing numbers up to non hybrids. What's up with the engineers?
I was looking for a truck, considered a Tacoma and Santa Cruz and the Santa Cruz can tow 5000 lbs. 😂 Time to look at GMC.
whats that dog poop scooper installed in front?
The base Ranger is what I would get. You can get it for under 40k with 4x4 and the base engine in the Ranger is great!
You can get a base 4x4 taco for well under 40k as well….
And you can option a rear locker on lesser trims 👍
have fun with junk
Also cheap interior, and a bad ride quality…
4:34 There's no way that truck weighs 5500 pounds. An F150 raptor weighs 5700-5800 pounds. You guys may want to verify this
I bet Toyota sell 91 octane tune just like tundra
The hybrid is the way to go. Already seeing videos of new tacoma owners with 35 inch tires overheating up the transmission and turbo's due to the gearing. Many owners of turbo trucks that tow understand the need to lock out gears when towing to ensure the turbo's don't overheat. I do not think most thought this would happen with just a tire upgrade. So get the hybrid not because it needs more power but because it helps keep wear on the turbo and engine down. Toyota may address this in the future with a transmission update but will lead to gear hunting again etc.
All trucks are too expensive period.
I detected some Sarah N Tuned in the way Andre said “schport”
Sarah Rocks❤
There’s no point to the hybrid. Even if you drive only in the city it will take around 150k miles for the hybrid system to pay for itself. The non-hybrid already has plenty of horsepower and torque. (Calculation assuming gas around $4/gal)
The hybrid isn’t for gas mileage, it’s to gain more torque. That’s the point of the hybrid. You’re making the assumption that all hybrids are for saving gas which is not true. They can either be tuned for fuel efficiency, or for torque.
@@valiant545 It's also for that sweet 2400w onboard power.
@@valiant545 I understand it’s for more torque. I just don’t see the point.
@@jmpattillo Well, to be honest here, its riding on 33 inch offroad tires as well. Combine that with all the extra weight, and its actually getting significantly good gas mileage on top of the extra power. If you went to larger more aggressive tires on a third gen tacoma, and loaded it to the point that the 4th gen Trailhunter is with steel armor, its gas mileage would drop significantly. So with that being said, 22/24 is actually quite good.
For the sake of the point I am making, I'm still someone to buy a Nissan Frontier PRO-4X due to pricing. Or even a Ranger Raptor because its a lot less and comes fully loaded. But I do understand the point behind the hybrid powertrain and why its mandatory on the Trailhunter and PRO trims.
How about that old GMC 4X4 at 9:06?? That should be the real story here!!