Is the 2024 Toyota Tacoma HYBRID Worth the Extra Money?

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  • @cbruno12180
    @cbruno12180 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +268

    The trd pro is 66k that’s just insane 70k with taxes for a midsize truck that’s almost 20k over the last gen wtf!! The ranger raptor 57k is a much better option v6 turbo 400hp 450tq

    • @getlosttoday4045
      @getlosttoday4045 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

      Thank the government for those prices!

    • @Damien-qq4nz
      @Damien-qq4nz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

      @@getlosttoday4045 I think the price of the Tacoma is more corporate greed in this case.

    • @Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives
      @Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I completely agree the prices are absolutely ridiculous. But keep in mind toyota has always been expensive. In general with Toyota you're paying for name AND quality. The new gen has yet to prove itself but a few years ago when prices for everything blew up toyota was comparable to everything else, now they are raising prices to be more like usual.

    • @qdog494
      @qdog494 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Agree. For 8-10k more you can get a 3/4 or 1 ton with a diesel

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@Damien-qq4nznot really , everything and everyone went up in price , it’s called inflation, don’t like it , government doesn’t care 😂

  • @appleztooranges
    @appleztooranges 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    Nope not worth the price. $65k for the pro - Are you shitting me!

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can say the same about Chevy but u idiots still buy that low quality junk 😂

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      You can buy a base model Tacoma for $31,000

    • @appleztooranges
      @appleztooranges 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@user-vx7vi3vq1c a 2wd pickup truck. No thanks

    • @malcolmn.5222
      @malcolmn.5222 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@appleztoorangeswell don't complain when given options.

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What did you expect? A Pro is exotic, no different than a TRX or Raptor. And those things exceed a $100K. Just there to show what it can do. They will not be big sellers but they don't expect them to be. A $45K Off-road will be Toyota's #1 seller.

  • @a-borgia4993
    @a-borgia4993 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

    Andre's wardrobe is Costco.... just like mine.

    • @MoY206
      @MoY206 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Me three 🎉

    • @driftx2
      @driftx2 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      wardrobe of champions

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @joseeduardo4327
      @joseeduardo4327 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Kirk Cousins status

  • @cpftank09
    @cpftank09 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    I really want to love the new Tacoma, but the prices are ridiculous. There’s a reason dealers have new Tacomas sitting on the lot right now and that’s never been seen with an all new Toyota truck.

    • @malcolmn.5222
      @malcolmn.5222 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Interest rates. A few years ago when interest rates where at 0 and prices where higher, you couldn't find a car.

    • @malcolmn.5222
      @malcolmn.5222 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Also, the mid size track game was way more competition now. A few years ago the Tacoma was the best buy and now not so much sense other brands have really made their mid size trucks more appealing

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Every 2024 delivered to my dealer has lasted less than a week. I keep going back to look at one and it's gone!

    • @cpftank09
      @cpftank09 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Dusdaddy what area of the country are you in? In the NW IA, people aren’t going for it. I’ve also seen some other TH-camrs talking about it and showing their local lots.

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cpftank09 Western PA and it's pretty common here for them to be gone. Probably because they dealers do not mark them up, they enjoy selling trucks.

  • @Humblescape
    @Humblescape 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    90% of customers if not more would delete the rear tailgate technology to save on price.

    • @jmpattillo
      @jmpattillo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Agreed, it is pretty silly.

    • @ericcarson342
      @ericcarson342 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Such a ridiculous feature. If it could save $100 I would pass on it.

    • @juddlebot2146
      @juddlebot2146 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      is alos 4 cylinder

    • @nazspeed1
      @nazspeed1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I want it I would get it on a SR If I brought it. But 70k is insane

    • @alexandersheppard1997
      @alexandersheppard1997 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@juddlebot21464 cylinders aren’t real trucks

  • @castandblast1852
    @castandblast1852 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    That Nissan frontier is looking better and better

    • @Thermool
      @Thermool 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The thumbnail looked like a Frontier to me

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Looking older and older you mean. Ancient and it costs 50k

    • @Thermool
      @Thermool 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@beexiong2995 what you mean the 2024 All New Frontier?

    • @nathanm8921
      @nathanm8921 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The nissan was already 2 generations behind when it came out. If they made a real new one then it would also cost like 66k. For every option it doesn't have add like 2500$ and its right up with the Toyota TRD

    • @Thermool
      @Thermool 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@nathanm8921 unless I missed something the Frontier today looks better all around than the Tacoma; prior to this update of this update of the Tacoma. It performed pretty well with the 2016-2023 Tacoma which was basically a refreshed and refined 2005 Tacoma which it was based.
      It will be interesting if Nissan will wait another 25 years for a full refresh of their truck. Because that last generation was like last touched in about 1998.

  • @truthserum5310
    @truthserum5310 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    I started laughing yesterday, and I'm still laughing. 60K plus for a buzzy 4 banger, loads of cheap looking blank buttons. HAHAHA. Whatever Toyota is smoking, pass it my way.

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Idk why you’re laughing , everything in Toyota and Chevy line up is 4 banger 😂 even the Lexus has cheap looking interiors at times

    • @truthserum5310
      @truthserum5310 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@cormaro1376 Exactly why I won't buy any of those.

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Keep laughing because the V-8 and V6’s are going away.

    • @truthserum5310
      @truthserum5310 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@user-vx7vi3vq1c Exactly why I'm going with a Ranger Lariat FX4.

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@truthserum5310 Cool, but be aware that JD Powers in 2023 rated Ford as 28th for reliability, just a little ahead of Land Rover. 😂

  • @jimmykelly2809
    @jimmykelly2809 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    A midsized truck shouldn’t cost more than 45k at most for the top trim with every available option. The consumer buys and sets the price. Stop buying overpriced vehicles

    • @JCreole
      @JCreole 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hold the line….don’t buy

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      45k is too high fpr a midsoze truck even the ranger raptor. The ranger raptor should cost like a base f150. Its a midsize truck man almost no one sane wants to pay that kind of price

    • @fanboiahoy260
      @fanboiahoy260 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheAnnoyingBossand yet, it’s sold out. It’s actually worth the price. It’s a lot more capable than most other trucks

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They're not trucks anymore. They're "lifestyle vehicles".

    • @b.g.4277
      @b.g.4277 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Amen. Too bad fools with too much money don't care and will buy anyway.

  • @exploregeology4650
    @exploregeology4650 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    That's before markup. Anyone with older trucks, just keep them and hold off on buying new. Only way to drive the prices down is to not buy them. If you have a lot of money or need it immediately, then fine get it. Anyone using loans/financing (especially if you're young), stop paying these prices. Inflation and covid really fked up the automotive industry, but it's also people willing to be financially irresponsible to obtain these.

    • @TheThewulasvegas
      @TheThewulasvegas 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2012 Taco owner here. TRD Pro. 💯

  • @wd8085
    @wd8085 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    This has to be a joke. Theres no way any company would charge this much for a midsize pickup with a 4 cylinder unless they think their buyers failed kindergarten.

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You must be slow or just plain stupid cause Chevy been doing it the whole time and u idiots still eat that trash up 😂

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      WELL GUESS WHAT? THIS IS WORTH EVERY PENNY

    • @kidamere2408
      @kidamere2408 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the topic yes, the truck hard no@@user-do9ir8lv2m

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You forgot turbo and hybrid.

    • @nathankoroush7918
      @nathankoroush7918 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is America, public education has been failing students for years. Best teachers in the world.

  • @BobPritchard
    @BobPritchard 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    My 2017 gen 2 Colorado diesel with lifetime 29 mpg is feeling even better now.

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      NOT

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Diesel cannot be compared to gas. Irrelevant post

    • @oldmanmike4995
      @oldmanmike4995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      lol. Your colorados interior has a lifespan of 7-8 years. Due to cheap materials they degrade 3-4 times faster.

    • @BobPritchard
      @BobPritchard 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Judging by their comments I think the Tacoma fan boys are butt hurt.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its an italian engine dude its not legit jts also overpriced junk

  • @SchuViews
    @SchuViews 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Showing the back seat tells you everything you need to know about the comfort of a Tacoma. Sat in one a couple of weeks ago. Being 6'1" 210lbs I barely fit in the front, and I couldn't sit in the back.

    • @MrFordguy73
      @MrFordguy73 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Plus to add salt to the wound there's no storage under the seat now. Not sure what they're thinking with that?

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You are too big. You need a fullsize. Both Roman and Andre are 6'3 or more and near 260lbs. Thats fullsize truck people

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lose weight

    • @weegeemike
      @weegeemike 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I call it the Tacoma curse. I'm not a big Toyota guy and neither are my family and friends but I rode in the back of a previous gen Taco and my knees were practically touching my chin. I'm 6 foot 1 in tall. It's an odd sensation to step UP into a vehicle that has such a high floor and limited vertical space. Older Tacos also had this problem but it was WORSE. Especially the early 2000s 4 door Tacomas.I was hoping that these new models were going to fix that decades old issue but apparently not. You don't get that sensation sitting in the back of a GM midsize. It feels like a regular truck in the back just with less space, without having that knees-in-your-chest sensation that these Tacomas are famous for.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@beexiong2995 A 2024 Tacoma with a 6' bed is 2" LONGER than a 2008 F-150 while offering something like 30-40% less passenger and cargo space. This Tacoma hybrid also has a slightly worse EPA rating than the F-150 hybrid.

  • @mpleau
    @mpleau 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    When these two are together it feels like a Cheech and Chong reunion at 65 years years old.

  • @joelarson6884
    @joelarson6884 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I come back to TFL vids now and then and am constantly turned off by Roman's negative outlook on nearly everything.

  • @rmalmeida1976
    @rmalmeida1976 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Been a Taco fan since the late 90s and finally bought my first Taco new in 2016. Was looking forward to this gen but now really considering a Ranger Raptor over the TRD Pro that I've been saving up for. The only thing that impresses me with this new gen Taco is the 2-tone paint scheme, nothing else seems even remotely worth the price.

    • @blakesmith5198
      @blakesmith5198 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In the same boat…been driving Toyotas for over twenty years but my money will be spent on a new RR later this year. Toyota got greedy AND delivered an inferior product from the last iteration.

    • @lesp315
      @lesp315 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who gives a rats ass about 2-tone paint scheme.

    • @josiahwyncott7519
      @josiahwyncott7519 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just go buy a '23 or '22 TRD for a nice discount.

    • @rmalmeida1976
      @rmalmeida1976 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@josiahwyncott7519 I already own a 3rd Gen. I'm probably going to grab a Ranger Raptor in all honesty. Nothing impresses me about the 4th Gen other than its looks.

  • @pauls055
    @pauls055 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    So happy with my decision to buy a 2024 Nissan Pro4X fully loaded for $47k. These prices for mid sized trucks are ridiculous.

    • @jmyers6175
      @jmyers6175 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Then why are you looking at toyota? 😂 hmmm

    • @zelenizub2036
      @zelenizub2036 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jmyers6175entertainment, read toyota fanboy comments and laugh. You choose.

    • @williamdavis4809
      @williamdavis4809 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You overpaid

    • @roywall8169
      @roywall8169 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you like your truck, that is $20k more than I would have signed on for though.

  • @horsepoweravenue4924
    @horsepoweravenue4924 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    The engine started because you popped the hood. It’s a safety feature.

  • @frankcedeno5467
    @frankcedeno5467 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Way too expensive this is the result of asking for more technology And features👏👏👏 now people can’t afford it that’s genius

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      U mean the poor and middle class can’t , don’t speak for everyone now 😂

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Toyota weeding out the pretenders and therefore helping people stay out of debt 😂

  • @usnr5950
    @usnr5950 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Im getting 24 plus on highway driving on my 22 Frontier!

  • @dcl97
    @dcl97 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Just did a little calculating, and it will take about 170,000 miles to earn back the $3700 buy in for the hybrid. Hardly seems worth it for the added cost and complexity

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends what you are buying it for.

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If I was in the Market I'd probably stick with the non hybrid version.

    • @Mycameron2323
      @Mycameron2323 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's for power

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      worth EVERY penny

    • @justincase9638
      @justincase9638 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Especially complexity - and if any of that breaks and - I know it will. Big $$$

  • @mikejones762
    @mikejones762 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    nissan frontier pro4x is a steal

  • @kristopherdaniel707
    @kristopherdaniel707 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    They’re being made in Mexico for cheaper labor but the price keeps going up. I make good money but if today’s auto manufacturers think I’m going to pay 60k for a midsize truck! well I can tell you where they can stick their truck.

    • @jenlvjim
      @jenlvjim 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree, but people keep buying. People have the power if they could stick together

  • @mvcharisma2968
    @mvcharisma2968 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This pig weighs 1000 lbs more than my ‘22 F150 😂

  • @blakeantos1301
    @blakeantos1301 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I just don’t understand the point of an expensive, heavy hybrid that doesn’t improve fuel economy, and only makes up for the shortcomings of a small turbo-4. Shortcomings that wouldn’t exist for a v6.

  • @joeyconservative
    @joeyconservative 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Was expecting higher MPGs

  • @maccooley3451
    @maccooley3451 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    a fully loaded TRD Sport hybrid will run high 50k’s OTD. that’s Ranger Raptor money. that’s absurd. a loaded Frontier Pro4x can be bought around and under 40k. that new “Toyota tax” is unseemly and gross.

  • @G-Force_70
    @G-Force_70 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    TRD Pro Taco will start at 75K in Canada and though I have always wanted one I will not support a vehicle made exclusively in Mexico.

  • @popwarhomie
    @popwarhomie 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    24 MPG combined... LMFAO! A $60k dollar HYBRID mid size truck and only 24 mpg.

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      What else do u want from a heavy mid size 😂 , even Mazda only gets 25 mpg lol

    • @Parker53151
      @Parker53151 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      This truck is far too expensive for the fuel mileage and power it delivers.

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Parker53151 sounds like u need to talk to Chevy too , get with the times old man lol

    • @LafemmebearMusic
      @LafemmebearMusic 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Parker53151since when is dollar amount equal to mpg? I get that folx are upset but like the non sensical speak is just getting …😅

    • @valiant545
      @valiant545 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Nah I’m not a fan of the price either but this is a dumb comment. Hybrids can be designed for fuel efficiency or gaining extra torque from an electric motor. The iForce MAX is the latter, not the former. Hence the “MAX” in the name for maximum torque.

  • @youngblood23rb
    @youngblood23rb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Price $56,225.00

  • @nighthawktheflyingspur
    @nighthawktheflyingspur 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    All new 2024 with price jump of $10k and made in Mexico to save Toyota money. Good business strategy Toyota. 👏🏾

  • @cisco9027
    @cisco9027 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There’s an old saying a sucker is born every day! And it still holds true today. Most people who don’t really need a pick up truck and brought just for the looks will pass on those prices.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      People who don't really need a pickup truck but by them are why $70k midsize luxury trucks are now a thing. It's not the guys hauling and towing crap for work.

    • @cisco9027
      @cisco9027 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@palebeachbum agree %100.00

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Overpriced for what it is. That is F150 XLT pricing

    • @BC_Hunter
      @BC_Hunter 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yup. I cancelled my order and am going full size. And sure ain’t Toyota anymore.

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      UMM IT IS WORTH EVERY PENNY TROLL

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@BC_Hunter YOUR LOSS, WE DON'T CARE

    • @FrankyRedEyes
      @FrankyRedEyes 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@user-do9ir8lv2m You mad bro 😂

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@FrankyRedEyes go sk one

  • @johnb-ke9xi
    @johnb-ke9xi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    damn Toyota... may have to seriously consider the Lexus GX550 Overtrail at these prices, especially considering the unbelievable costs of the TRD pro and Trailhunter models... wow. I also expect 2025 4Runners to fall into the same price ranges as well

  • @theoutdoordad7395
    @theoutdoordad7395 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Man if you’re going to title the video with a question at least provide an initial answer.

    • @SuperRetina
      @SuperRetina 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The point is for you to answer for yourself after watching the video

    • @theoutdoordad7395
      @theoutdoordad7395 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SuperRetina no kidding thanks for pointing that out professor

  • @manuelrivas6120
    @manuelrivas6120 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    55,000
    Plus tax 5,500
    Destinations 1,800
    Plus finance
    Your looking at almost 80k over 5-6 years
    A thousand dollars a month who can afford that in this busted economy?
    They better keep manufacturing at half of what they normally produce because they priced out half their buyers

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Love Toyotas but their value is whack now. If you want bang for your buck subaru and Honda are your best bet. Only new Toyota I’d buy now is a Camry.

  • @BlastedBilly
    @BlastedBilly 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I don't think Toyota anything in 2024 is worth the extra money :(

  • @MrRailroader03
    @MrRailroader03 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Just buy a Frontier while you can, Pro4X fully loaded v6 22mpg 46,390 out the door

    • @jmyers6175
      @jmyers6175 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not a Toyota 😂

    • @JokerG16
      @JokerG16 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ain’t that crazy? a NA V6 with almost the same MPG at a buzzy hybrid 4 banger lol. toyota has lost their way big time

  • @brettsuydam7457
    @brettsuydam7457 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    If it doesn’t increase the towing limit or the fuel economy what’s the point?

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The gas only tacoma gets 4 mpg less. I dunno what you are talking about

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@beexiong2995Only 4 mpg is not worth it

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@angelgjr1999 only 4 mpg? Thats a lot better. And it gets better in city stop and go traffic thats where gas mileage sucks the most.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beexiong2995 is that extra 4 mpg worth the 10 grand??

  • @1guarino
    @1guarino 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great point: It should be more geared for efficiency. Otherwise, why hybrid?

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably because efficiency really don't sell trucks.

  • @ChargeToDrive
    @ChargeToDrive 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You guys keep talking about efficiency while reviewing trucks, this is a heavy machine not a Camry.
    TOYOTA should have given this hybrid Tacoma a bigger battery and a small engine to charge the battery when needed for a lot better efficiency and range but they chose to do it the other way around, which is what we have now, time will tell if this was the right choice for trucks.

  • @palebeachbum
    @palebeachbum 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's a pretty truck. What's its purpose? It has a terrible payload. The hybrid has a lot more torque, yet doesn't tow more. The hybrid fuel economy sucks. The price is insane. I'm scratching my head. What. Is. The. Point? The Nissan Frontier seems to be the only midsize truck on the market with a level head on its shoulders. A naturally aspirated V6, 6ft bed, and the availability of a King Cab. Tacoma has become a "lifestyle vehicle" rather than an actual pickup truck. If you like driving a truck but don't really NEED a truck, and if you want hybrid fuel economy, the Ford Maverick makes a hell of a lot more sense than this Tacoma Hybrid.

    • @theoutdoordad7395
      @theoutdoordad7395 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Frontier reliability sucks it no Toyota substitute.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theoutdoordad7395 the 2023 Frontier was rated half a point higher for reliability over the Tacoma by RepairPal. Plus, the Frontier has a 26yr track record of excellent reliability and better value.

    • @justinboucher5923
      @justinboucher5923 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Bingo! Lifestyle vehicle. You need this truck with a roof top tent or you are not cool and your IG will suck. Haha

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The frontier is direct injection only they had to screw it up somehow. Idiots.

    • @deefromewa9868
      @deefromewa9868 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only mall crawlers can afford the higher end! 😂

  • @lukeworden3654
    @lukeworden3654 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The small crew cab is just a deal killer for me. I've seen the truck in person and it's smaller than I expected.

  • @electrikoptik
    @electrikoptik 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Remember when the previous 200-series was sold for 85K and people complaining it was too expensive? The LX600 starts at 94K.

    • @JokerG16
      @JokerG16 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that’s not a $15-20k difference tho.

  • @shumann1605
    @shumann1605 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Blueberry got over 24mpg hwy on your loop test. The Hybrid should perform even better. Toyota is low balling in to CYA themselves. Great Vid guys!

  • @JackMcRoberts
    @JackMcRoberts 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tbh if Toyota would have had made it a diesel they would get the same MPG without the added battery cost. The Ford f150 diesel got. 22 city, 30 highway and 25 combined.

  • @jimblesunown8944
    @jimblesunown8944 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really wanna get a new taco, love the looks but it being 4 cyl and at that price is 😬😬😬

  • @user-nm4gg7pe1q
    @user-nm4gg7pe1q 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You guys rock! Thanks for the video.

  • @chrisb9478
    @chrisb9478 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I like it, but doubt the Hybrid is worth the extra $. What I really want is a 1794 Tacoma with black trim, not chrome, full time 4wd like the Limited (& Landcruiser) and saddle brown leather seats! 🔥

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just get a Stout
      30K

    • @tomahawk7259
      @tomahawk7259 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My ICE Forester gets way better gas mileage and its non hybrid. This is embarassing numbers

    • @daveintbdaveintb3624
      @daveintbdaveintb3624 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tomahawk7259 Different class of vehicle.

    • @dalea4350
      @dalea4350 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is a 1794 here at the dealer for 8k off msrp. Brings the total down to $62k. Has the saddle brown interior and the copper brown exterior. It's truly beautiful. The dealer is Penske Toyota in Surprise, Arizona. No black trim, has the chrome. But it looks amazing

  • @Jojo-ni2cg
    @Jojo-ni2cg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    57K cash out the door is just to much money!!

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Get with the times , new standard

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@cormaro1376 employers aren't willing to pay people for the times.

    • @midlifecrisis7888
      @midlifecrisis7888 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@palebeachbumcorrect. Working for yourself and do your own hustle is the only way to be rich. Which is needed to buy these toys.

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The TRD pro is $65-66 before options, accessories, fees, and taxes

    • @Jojo-ni2cg
      @Jojo-ni2cg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@americandude3825 crazy!!

  • @helloman4251
    @helloman4251 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Unaffordable......

  • @kanenmoffett9539
    @kanenmoffett9539 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That awesome 4x4 system should break easy with that torque number

  • @Intrepid175a
    @Intrepid175a 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That's kinda disappointing. It's sounding like the hybrid isn't getting significantly better gas mileage than the non-hybrid version. There may be an advantage in performance, although Andre and Roman didn't sound too convinced of that, so what's the point of all the added coast and complexity? It doesn't wound worth it to me.

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Tacoma Hybrid review, where Andre and Roman were stalking and sheep were worried!

  • @JakeJake746
    @JakeJake746 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They might as well have stuck with the V6 if all they hybrid can pull is 24 mpg. Hell my Frontier can out do that on the highway if I try.

  • @SMITTY19722
    @SMITTY19722 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Good luck selling at that price😂😂😂 ridiculous

  • @user-pf8lg6uy2s
    @user-pf8lg6uy2s 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Poor design for the touchscreen as it looks like they took a laptop and didn't know what to do with it so some engineers said let's just stick it to the dash. Then Toyota decided to stick it to consumers with pricing

  • @raziqafg
    @raziqafg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm so disappointed with toyotas pricing. U can go and buy a Ram 1500 with a hemi for less than what these tacomas are priced at. The initial fan boys with infinite money will buy one. The rest of us will hold on to our money.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just wait. Eventually idiots will learn to not get 84 month loans at 1200 a month…

  • @Jtboffroad
    @Jtboffroad 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Never thought I’d see the day when the Tacoma cost more than a tundra

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2015 TRD Pro was more expensive than a 2015 Tundra SR5 Double Cab 5.7 4wd.

  • @AmericanRoads
    @AmericanRoads 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think the new pricing is Toyota's way of steering people away from buying this impractical form factor of "mid-size trucks" lol. ALL mid-size trucks have really cramped and super upright 2nd row seats; so uncomfortable for long trips.

  • @michaelmcglothlin366
    @michaelmcglothlin366 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been waiting a long time to get MPG numbers for the Tacoma Hybrid. Not impressed with 24mpg. My 2024 Maverick hybrid is getting nearly 40mpg. Was looking to get the new Tacoma to replace my 2022 Ram but I think I’ll just keep what I have and run the Maverick 90% of the time.

  • @jmpattillo
    @jmpattillo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There’s no point to the hybrid. Even if you drive only in the city it will take around 150k miles for the hybrid system to pay for itself. The non-hybrid already has plenty of horsepower and torque. (Calculation assuming gas around $4/gal)

    • @valiant545
      @valiant545 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The hybrid isn’t for gas mileage, it’s to gain more torque. That’s the point of the hybrid. You’re making the assumption that all hybrids are for saving gas which is not true. They can either be tuned for fuel efficiency, or for torque.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@valiant545 It's also for that sweet 2400w onboard power.

    • @jmpattillo
      @jmpattillo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@valiant545 I understand it’s for more torque. I just don’t see the point.

    • @valiant545
      @valiant545 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jmpattillo Well, to be honest here, its riding on 33 inch offroad tires as well. Combine that with all the extra weight, and its actually getting significantly good gas mileage on top of the extra power. If you went to larger more aggressive tires on a third gen tacoma, and loaded it to the point that the 4th gen Trailhunter is with steel armor, its gas mileage would drop significantly. So with that being said, 22/24 is actually quite good.
      For the sake of the point I am making, I'm still someone to buy a Nissan Frontier PRO-4X due to pricing. Or even a Ranger Raptor because its a lot less and comes fully loaded. But I do understand the point behind the hybrid powertrain and why its mandatory on the Trailhunter and PRO trims.

  • @marksuson5347
    @marksuson5347 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    great video. love the sheep tangent!

  • @LivingRetirement
    @LivingRetirement 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder what the gas mileage is for non hybrid vs hybrid when towing a trailer. That would be an important piece of information. Maybe you can do an MPG loop using Blueberry and one of those hybrid Tacomas towing the same trailer?

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's nice Toyota moved the led lights in the bed above the wheel wells, I would like to see one in the front center of the bed .

  • @SoundFX09
    @SoundFX09 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If this Engine Option is made available on the TRD Prerunner Trim (The Trim that's only available in a Supercab/XtraCab), it would quickly become one the best-selling trims in the Tacoma.
    Alas, If I remember correctly, it's only available on the TRD Sport, Pro, Limited, and Off-Road Trims, which makes this is REALLY Hard Sell.
    I would honestly consider trading up from a '23 SR5 V6 4x4 IF they make this engine available in the TRD Prerunner Trim... In about a few years time.

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love the fact it has built in power inverter. But it's kinda pointless for a hybrid that doesn't really get better fuel economy, and any gain in power is offset by the increased weight.... and the price... yikes.

  • @CarnutMM
    @CarnutMM 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nissan Frontier and Nissan Canyon are looking real good now.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wouldnt pay near 50k for an outdated truck from 2005

    • @CarnutMM
      @CarnutMM 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beexiong2995 you can get them for less. Pro4X you can get for well under 40k

    • @jmyers6175
      @jmyers6175 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pass 😂

    • @CarnutMM
      @CarnutMM 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beexiong2995 you can get a Pro4X for under 40k.

  • @ryryy1980
    @ryryy1980 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    With increased torque you would expect an increase in towing capacity!? What happened? Transmission limitations?

  • @PeterSierra
    @PeterSierra 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So they put everything in the same platform and same engine for cost cutting measures and this somehow puts the trucks over $10k in value? What am I missing here?

  • @bretu7126
    @bretu7126 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Hope that volume knob doesn't break as easy as the Tundra? We have a lot of reports of this knob cracking off eastly.

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      well it is lies, they DON'T break

    • @bretu7126
      @bretu7126 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-do9ir8lv2m I'm a admin for the Facebook Tundra group. These reports are indepent from one another and I don't believe these are made up. Plenty of photos and posts about this.

  • @jskaggs8188
    @jskaggs8188 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    All trucks are too expensive period.

  • @alexandersheppard1997
    @alexandersheppard1997 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let’s be honest, the most off roading these trucks will ever do is going over a speed bump in the mall parking lot.

  • @mitchstein288
    @mitchstein288 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Toyota REALLY missed the mark when they didn't give full-time 4WD to more trims. Like on the 4Runner you need to go to the more street worthy Limited to get it. My 1994 Cherokee had it! It was such a great feature.

  • @elizabethpayette9115
    @elizabethpayette9115 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I detected some Sarah N Tuned in the way Andre said “schport”

    • @jmyers6175
      @jmyers6175 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sarah Rocks❤

  • @darksi226
    @darksi226 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why bother with more hp and torque if it only tows 5k? My small 23ft camper weighs over 4k, empty. I was stoked for the release, but now just confused. Don't just put a battery in it, toyota. Change the suspension to keep towing numbers up to non hybrids. What's up with the engineers?

    • @deefromewa9868
      @deefromewa9868 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was looking for a truck, considered a Tacoma and Santa Cruz and the Santa Cruz can tow 5000 lbs. 😂 Time to look at GMC.

  • @weegeemike
    @weegeemike 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Im gonna just say it, the MPG for this truck is PISS POOR for a hybrid. My dads '16 Sierra Denali 5.3 getts 21 to 22 mpg all day long on the freeway. Its a big, fully equipped, full size truck with full size truck towing, hauling capability, and space. This hybrid Taco doesnt make any damn sense in my opinion. I wouldve expected upper 20s MPG considering its a midsize. It seems like truck (full size or midsize) is stuck around 21-23 mpg for some reason, despite the small dispacement and hybrid technology.
    Also, NiMH hybrid battery!? What is this, 1999? Time that Toyota joins the 21st century and starts equipping these hybrids with Lithium batteries.

  • @jonleatherberry1621
    @jonleatherberry1621 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where is the battery? The Tundra Hybrid is useless if you want to store anything inside your cab.

  • @WookieSenshi
    @WookieSenshi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mpg numbers are a tad disappointing when my 2021 Sienna awd is raged 35/36 mpg. I've got a roof rack with solar panels and drive it as a full time courier and still hit those numbers or even better with mixed driving. On the highway I can get around 40-45+ mpg even.

    • @srzy
      @srzy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Idiotic to compared mpg of a minivan to a truck. Sienna has the same engine as the Camry. Try towing a 5000 lb boat with it

  • @Martin_from_SC
    @Martin_from_SC 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    More torque but for how long? Can it even last an Ike run while towing maxed out? The batteries are small.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The engine charges the batteries. The torque is constant power it doesn't simply run out. All hybrids do this even the 1st gen prius. Nothing new here

    • @Martin_from_SC
      @Martin_from_SC 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beexiong2995 Yeah but does it charge it at a constant full throttle application like towing up a mountain?

  • @jarvis1751
    @jarvis1751 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    redarc makes a great plug & play in dash trailer brake controller for 4runners and tacoma’s with trailer hitches.

  • @nopenotme999
    @nopenotme999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How did they get the same payload in that truck as they do in your truck when that truck has way more options and a battery?

  • @rockyhockey16
    @rockyhockey16 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can you get the truck bed air compressor in the Off Road version?

  • @ShadowBend
    @ShadowBend 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This isn't far off the price of an XLT F150 powerboost. For how small the taco is, I really wish they would add the hybrid option to the lower trims.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The TRD Sport and TRD Offroad are available with it.

  • @losmoney82
    @losmoney82 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was expecting a little more mpg for these hybrids...

  • @Tony-hf9mv
    @Tony-hf9mv 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just know after these videos and pricing announcements that know a whole lot more people are waiting for the 2.7 ranger to hit the market

  • @kyrosmike
    @kyrosmike 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I bet Toyota sell 91 octane tune just like tundra

  • @BakingThePoundcake
    @BakingThePoundcake 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    So it picked up what like 3-4 mpg and $10K in price. I love Toyota but they move at a glacial rate.

    • @kidamere2408
      @kidamere2408 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      only take about 12-15 yrs to recoup the upcharge for the hybrid

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kidamere2408By then it’ll need a new battery 😂

  • @robertrousseaux1059
    @robertrousseaux1059 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Drive in a city, 0-50 on and off all day. Compare that to a non hybid . Thats where they shine. Compare it one day . Gas versus hybrid in the city.
    Just do it .

    • @blakeantos1301
      @blakeantos1301 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Most people aren’t buying pickups to drive in the city. Esp a TRD Pro.

    • @jerrystandefer9128
      @jerrystandefer9128 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @robertrousseaux1059 I did the comparison. I used an online gas vs. hybrid vehicle savings calculator. The common parameters I used were 12,000 miles per year and $3.65/gallon (national average as of today as reported by AAA). For the gas vehicle, I used the city mpg specs for the 2024 Tacoma Limited 4WD, which was 20 mpg as shown on Toyota's website. For the hybrid vehicle, I used the city mpg specs for the 2024 Tacoma Limited Hybrid 4WD, which was 23 mpg as shown on Toyota's website.. I used the base MSRP for both vehicles as shown on Toyota's website, which were $52,100 for the non-hybrid and $55,800 for the hybrid. The break even point where the gas savings of the hybrid equalled that of the extra price of the hybrid was 13 years. Most people don’t keep a vehicle that long. I'm all for hybrids, but there's just not much advantage here from a purely fuel economy standpoint for the Tacoma. That seems to be the case of most hybrids that use a longitudinally mounted setup with a traditional stepped gear transmission. They just don't get the huge efficiency gains of the planetary gearset with CVT hybrid setups such as in the Toyota Prius, Ford Maverick, etc.

  • @Flash....Gordon..42
    @Flash....Gordon..42 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Going with non hybrid after seeing performance isn't much better. Plus only 6ft bed in hybrid is trailhunter can't afford that. Thanks for sharing

    • @richardschmidt5865
      @richardschmidt5865 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is this true? You can’t get a TRD Sport with hybrid and 6’ bed? That is unfortunate if it’s true since the range is also compromised without the hybrid option.

    • @Flash....Gordon..42
      @Flash....Gordon..42 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@richardschmidt5865 yes for sure. I'm looking now for a 6ft bed non hybrid. Hybrid has been tested and not much improved performance only a couple more mpg. Totally disappointing hybrid

    • @justinboucher5923
      @justinboucher5923 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I saw that in the press release from Toyota. Feels like a huge miss. 6' bed is the best!

  • @270eman
    @270eman 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am getting 24.1 MPG doing 80-85 MPH in my 23 Tacoma SR5 V6 4WD DBL Cab LB. I have the Overland Torque Tune Mild/Medium. Stock toyo tires 245/75R16. I am in TN so its not all flat terrain either. You guys should test the 24 against a 23 V6 4wd tuned! I am sure the tuners will cook something up for the 24s to.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      NA engines will always get better mpg in mountains. Lower psi injectors, not turbo needed to spool up. Not a fan of turbos myself.

    • @270eman
      @270eman 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@angelgjr1999 Me either. That's why I got the 23

  • @kevinkidneyy
    @kevinkidneyy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    lmaooooooooooo i get 20.1 to 22 mpg on my 21 v6 . 18-19 city . This is just entertainment for me on TH-cam . I have a paid off 21 Tacoma never getting a auto loan again . my 21 was 35k how tf the new tacoma 60k

  • @SuperClayJones
    @SuperClayJones 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That mpg... Is not great!! I get that in my 2016 SR5, TACO with the V 6.

  • @Tigerstripe40
    @Tigerstripe40 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still think the Tacoma is the best truck for long term reliability. But, for the price being charged for this truck, I would expect the VIN to start with a 'J' and not a '3'.

  • @redracerproductions
    @redracerproductions 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a bummer that Toyota is only offering the Trailhunter with the hybrid powertrain and 6' bed. I think the Trailhunter is very cool but didn't Toyota say that the hybrid Tacomas would have 1707 payload ratings? With metal bumpers and underbody protection I get why the Trailhunter only has around 1,300 payload rating but it would be nice to actually be able to put lightweight camper on a Tacoma. I have a crew cab half ton with a 6.5' bed now and would like to get something a little smaller.

  • @user-yj1py2jw1i
    @user-yj1py2jw1i 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like to have seen Toyota keep the doors the same in the back as the front seems like a cost cutting thing other than a super nice job on the new Tacoma you missed the lane your turn into build up speed merge into traffic you not have to wait for cars to clear Towing Max test will be good to see Toyota Tacoma vs Toyota 4Runner see if there any difference

  • @thepdc6220
    @thepdc6220 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My 2024 broke the first day I had it. It’s in the dealership with no part available. That was two weeks ago. 50k later and no truck. I wish I was TFL. At least they would send a team and repair it. So disappointed

  • @seaweed_cowboy_productions
    @seaweed_cowboy_productions 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Couldn’t agree more with the guys at TFL….they should have focused on fuel efficiency and not torque for the hybrid engine. Getting 1mpg better than stock is pathetic

  • @bbrf033
    @bbrf033 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know who else liked to say that about driving torque? Bob Lutz; the guy who said it first.

  • @cegroj
    @cegroj 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the AWD only available on the limited?

  • @carbonking53
    @carbonking53 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Insane pricing on the Tacomas!!! I really hope consumers balk and Toyota has to back down. We are on the edge of a huge economic crash I feel. Consumers just can't keep absorbing this high inflation on everything.