Andrew did that chick a favor. Even if she had been endlessly supportive, it would never be reciprocated. A loveless relationship. Better to not waste her time.
@@EyeTunz Why??? Lol! He did the right thing. He's too damn dedicated and puts all of his waking hours into his skill. He would've neglected her. If he spent more time with her and paid her more attention, he would've neglected his skill and his destiny. He might be ready for a good and healthy relationship later on when he's established. But he literally did her a favor. It would've become toxic.
J.K. Simmons is definitely a iconic goat. This is probably his greatest film role however but you boys should absolutely check out his other works. HBOs "Oz" was his breakthrough and he was magnificent. One of TVs greatest and scariest villains ever. Whether reaction or on yall own time you guys should definitely check that series out.
@@christhrasher9892 Will do. Thank you for the recommendation friend. I've heard a lot of good things about Party Down throughout the years. Love me some Jane Lynch so off of her alone I feel inclined to watch it 😂
@@logicbomb8977 Nah bro, being that good at something usually means that youre lacking in other parts of life. Like they said earlier in the movie, being that great comes at a cost of your mental health.
@@iulia.bianca.b The director even said that he pictures Andrew getting hooked on drugs, having no friends, losing touch with his father and dying in his 30's. I would say that is a high price for being the best.
I love reactions where the reactors laugh at Fletcher's abuse because its objectively funny. Dude has some straight up Full Metal Jacket Drill Instructor level insults. I get that its ''horrific'' in the context but its still a movie so just laugh and dont take it too seriously.
One drum, a snare drum. One. So no, nick cannon was not doing this shit in high school, and if you remember what his problem was, he wouldn't last 5 min here. Fletcher would never have someone who couldn't read sheet music.
being a maestro can be achieved without losing your mental health and emotional support and plenty of artists have reached greatness w discipline and w/o mental and physical abuse. dying young in exchange for being the best at something is no way worth it if u could be the best and also grow old and happy
This is one of the more misinterpreted movies imo. A lot of people come away thinking it’s some motivational success story about the price of perfection but I think the directors intent at least was to examine flawed teaching methods. Did Andrew even really tap into his potential or did he just impress his dickhead teacher for a brief moment while still needing to fix all his broken relationships? Interested to hear what yall think.
He definitely impressed Fletcher. It's a tale about the price of perfection. However, the director has stated that Andrew will more than likely achieve his potential at the cost of an early death. This is a call back to many great musicians that die relatively young, including Charlie Parker who died at 34. Fletcher's method works, but it's a heavy cost that almost enslaves the musician to him. Andrew hates but respects Fletcher approval and desperately wants it.
@@Zikk0_o true none of that is up for dispute but it doesn’t really answer any of the questions at heart. Even if he does reach his full potential, were Fletchers methods the only way to achieve it? And was it worth it for Fletcher to have his career end in disgrace and drive someone to suicide just to find a single great musician?
@User77288 Is it the only way? Ultimately, no. However, in Andrew's case, he needed that extra push that only Fletcher seemed to be able to provide. His father, while supportive, wasn't pushing him to do better and was satisfied with a pretty ordinary life. Andrew wants more and wants to be the best no matter what. He was in a situation where hardly anyone cared about his profession, so the moment someone like Fletcher took interest was just the thing he needed to fully commit. With Fletcher, I get the impression that he doesn't care about losing his job so long as he gets what he's been searching for. We see that he has no problem getting gigs even if they're not as prestigious, so money and career aren't his main drive. His dream is to find and mold the next Charlie Parker. I think he does somewhat care about the one kid's suicide, but in a messed up way because ultimately the kid did become a good player when everyone thought he wouldn't. I think the scene of him playing the kid's music is him trying to justify his methods to the band and mainly Andrew.
@User77288 It's not the only way, but it's kinda what Andrew needed. His father was too passive and didn't push him to be better at his craft. Andrew didn't like they idea of being average, and Fletcher was the only one to challenge him to be better. I think we also have to take into account that Andrew is at that age where he feels pressured to find a career path because time is running out with what he loves doing. Fletcher didn't really seem to care too much about the job, and we see that he's still able to get gigs and people to play for him. I think he does somewhat care about his players, but in a warped or messed up way. Him playing the music of the one deceased kid is him trying to justify his methods to everyone in the room. According to him, the kid wasn't very talented, but in the end, he became good, even though it cost him his life. I also think for Andrew it was a final warning as to what awaits him if he continues down this path with Fletcher.
Pretty solid movie! I just love J.K simmons. I hope you will react to "Palm Springs" with Andy Samberg and J.K Simmons. They are hilarious in it. (A comedy movie where they have to relive every day forever) If they die, fall asleep or whatever, they wake up to the exact same day.
Great movie and great FRR episode Psyco Professor. Anddew was cruel to that great girl. If the dude on the bass doesnt do his part, knowing the professor doesnt want it, and then cue the rest of the band, Andrews burn doesnt happen like that. Andrew best drummer in NYC!
There is an excellent movie titled "The Pianist" which won academy awards for Best Director and Best Actor and was nominated for Best Picture but lost to "Chicago". It's from the memoir of Wladyslaw Szpilman, a Polish-Jewish pianist stuck in the Warsaw Ghetto under Nazi control.
This is a tragedy masquerading as a triumph. Neiman is the furthest thing from a musician, but he wants to achieve technical perfection in such a way that some authority figure will tell him he is. Fletcher is a massive Salieri type (from the Amadeus movie, not reality), and Neiman is following right in his footsteps.
Well im sure after Sopranos & Wire some people mentioned another HBO series OZ, its not quite on the same level, good tho. JK Simmons plays big part in it😊
Fantastic reaction to one of my favorite movies!! Im new to your channel...if yall havent already, you should react to Apocalypto...I think you will really enjoy it.
L take. The movie isn't supposed to be a representation of jazz music, it's a psychological drama about the dangers of seeking perfection. It could have just as easily been a sports movie.
@@GuitarMonster86 Exactly. I guess It's just because I have a spot soft for Jazz... It hurt me to see a Duke Ellington song become the focal point of such a brutal movie.
Andrew did that chick a favor. Even if she had been endlessly supportive, it would never be reciprocated. A loveless relationship. Better to not waste her time.
100%
Oh god. Dropping that girl was the dumbest move I've ever seen somebody make. What an idiotic movie. Drives me crazy.
@@EyeTunz Why??? Lol! He did the right thing. He's too damn dedicated and puts all of his waking hours into his skill. He would've neglected her. If he spent more time with her and paid her more attention, he would've neglected his skill and his destiny. He might be ready for a good and healthy relationship later on when he's established. But he literally did her a favor. It would've become toxic.
"I played trombone in the fourth grade" fucking took me out
Fun fact: Andrew wasn't rushing or dragging. Fletcher was fucking with him.
lol we should've known!
J.K. Simmons is definitely a iconic goat. This is probably his greatest film role however but you boys should absolutely check out his other works. HBOs "Oz" was his breakthrough and he was magnificent. One of TVs greatest and scariest villains ever. Whether reaction or on yall own time you guys should definitely check that series out.
J.K Simmons is good in invincible as well
Simmons was great in the series Party Down. He wasn't a regular but the 2 shows he was in is hilarious. Great series you should check out.
@@GoatBoat22 Heavily agreed. Omni-Man gives career resurgence and I love it.
@@christhrasher9892 Will do. Thank you for the recommendation friend. I've heard a lot of good things about Party Down throughout the years. Love me some Jane Lynch so off of her alone I feel inclined to watch it 😂
Oz was good... until the last three Seasons or so.
"I played trombone in fourth grade." Yeah, I'm actually kind of a musician myself as I played the recorder until fifth grade and I now own a bass.
fellow musician 🫱🏼🫲🏾
"I played trombone in the 4th grade." 🤣
Fletcher won in the end. Created a monster. His Charlie Parker. The look on Andrew’s dads face said it all
Fletcher*
No monster at all. They were perfect compliments for each other
@@logicbomb8977 Nah bro, being that good at something usually means that youre lacking in other parts of life. Like they said earlier in the movie, being that great comes at a cost of your mental health.
@@sovietarmy7485 Not everyone wants to/is meant to be average or just good. Some people are destined for greatness. That's a small cost.
@@iulia.bianca.b The director even said that he pictures Andrew getting hooked on drugs, having no friends, losing touch with his father and dying in his 30's. I would say that is a high price for being the best.
I love reactions where the reactors laugh at Fletcher's abuse because its objectively funny. Dude has some straight up Full Metal Jacket Drill Instructor level insults. I get that its ''horrific'' in the context but its still a movie so just laugh and dont take it too seriously.
36:55 variations of this song are played throughout the movie. Changing for the mood of the scene. Banger theme
The ending sequence cover of Caravan is one of the most exciting cinematic sequences I've ever seen on a big screen ❤
You guys killed this reaction!!
🙏🏾
Miles is so overlooked in this one of his best performances
JK Simmons has been in a bunch of stuff lately. He's been incredible in everything.
'Nick Cannon was doing this shit in high school tho' rofl
lol Nick Cannon would've ended this movie in the first 5 minutes.
One drum, a snare drum. One. So no, nick cannon was not doing this shit in high school, and if you remember what his problem was, he wouldn't last 5 min here. Fletcher would never have someone who couldn't read sheet music.
@@86leewis They're just joking, brother. It ain't that serious.
@@ARWG sorry
Nick not being able to read music would’ve worked perfectly. This way he could always be on the right tempo!
I played the bone, baritone, and trumpet from middle school through college. Complete blast, best years of my life!
being a maestro can be achieved without losing your mental health and emotional support and plenty of artists have reached greatness w discipline and w/o mental and physical abuse. dying young in exchange for being the best at something is no way worth it if u could be the best and also grow old and happy
I agree!
Love your channel!
Thank you so much!
Y’all were definitely enjoying watching Fletcher rip into Andrew.
lol facts, shit was crazy and funny
First. Awesome reaction sir
This is one of the more misinterpreted movies imo. A lot of people come away thinking it’s some motivational success story about the price of perfection but I think the directors intent at least was to examine flawed teaching methods. Did Andrew even really tap into his potential or did he just impress his dickhead teacher for a brief moment while still needing to fix all his broken relationships? Interested to hear what yall think.
He definitely impressed Fletcher. It's a tale about the price of perfection. However, the director has stated that Andrew will more than likely achieve his potential at the cost of an early death. This is a call back to many great musicians that die relatively young, including Charlie Parker who died at 34.
Fletcher's method works, but it's a heavy cost that almost enslaves the musician to him. Andrew hates but respects Fletcher approval and desperately wants it.
@@Zikk0_o true none of that is up for dispute but it doesn’t really answer any of the questions at heart. Even if he does reach his full potential, were Fletchers methods the only way to achieve it? And was it worth it for Fletcher to have his career end in disgrace and drive someone to suicide just to find a single great musician?
@User77288 Is it the only way? Ultimately, no. However, in Andrew's case, he needed that extra push that only Fletcher seemed to be able to provide. His father, while supportive, wasn't pushing him to do better and was satisfied with a pretty ordinary life. Andrew wants more and wants to be the best no matter what. He was in a situation where hardly anyone cared about his profession, so the moment someone like Fletcher took interest was just the thing he needed to fully commit.
With Fletcher, I get the impression that he doesn't care about losing his job so long as he gets what he's been searching for. We see that he has no problem getting gigs even if they're not as prestigious, so money and career aren't his main drive. His dream is to find and mold the next Charlie Parker. I think he does somewhat care about the one kid's suicide, but in a messed up way because ultimately the kid did become a good player when everyone thought he wouldn't. I think the scene of him playing the kid's music is him trying to justify his methods to the band and mainly Andrew.
When the director was asked what he thought happened to Andrew after the movie, he said he probably died young as a drug addict.
@User77288 It's not the only way, but it's kinda what Andrew needed. His father was too passive and didn't push him to be better at his craft. Andrew didn't like they idea of being average, and Fletcher was the only one to challenge him to be better. I think we also have to take into account that Andrew is at that age where he feels pressured to find a career path because time is running out with what he loves doing.
Fletcher didn't really seem to care too much about the job, and we see that he's still able to get gigs and people to play for him. I think he does somewhat care about his players, but in a warped or messed up way. Him playing the music of the one deceased kid is him trying to justify his methods to everyone in the room. According to him, the kid wasn't very talented, but in the end, he became good, even though it cost him his life. I also think for Andrew it was a final warning as to what awaits him if he continues down this path with Fletcher.
Easily one of the best movies of the 21st century.
EASYYY, masterpiece
Or the worst.
@@EyeTunz or NOT
@@EyeTunz sorry it's not Fast and Furious 19 bro. Don't worry it's coming though.
Pretty solid movie! I just love J.K simmons.
I hope you will react to "Palm Springs" with Andy Samberg and J.K Simmons. They are hilarious in it. (A comedy movie where they have to relive every day forever) If they die, fall asleep or whatever, they wake up to the exact same day.
You guys are very funny and caught a lot of things other reactors miss
Great movie and great FRR episode Psyco Professor. Anddew was cruel to that great girl. If the dude on the bass doesnt do his part, knowing the professor doesnt want it, and then cue the rest of the band, Andrews burn doesnt happen like that. Andrew best drummer in NYC!
35:49 RIP ROBIN WILLIAMS😢
That's exactly who I was talking about... RIP 🙏🏾
Good stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it
There is an excellent movie titled "The Pianist" which won academy awards for Best Director and Best Actor and was nominated for Best Picture but lost to "Chicago". It's from the memoir of Wladyslaw Szpilman, a Polish-Jewish pianist stuck in the Warsaw Ghetto under Nazi control.
This is a tragedy masquerading as a triumph. Neiman is the furthest thing from a musician, but he wants to achieve technical perfection in such a way that some authority figure will tell him he is. Fletcher is a massive Salieri type (from the Amadeus movie, not reality), and Neiman is following right in his footsteps.
I feel that!
Awesome reaction/ can you please watch a movie called A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT.
I'll cue yall mugs in son👍
Were we rushing or dragging?
If you really want some more J.K. Simmons the best thing you can do is watch the old HBO series "Oz".
Oz the prison show? I had no idea he was in that.
@@FriendRequestReviews Oh you gotta watch, it's probably the best performance of his career.
Perfect movie
Best reactors in the game. Don’t piss me off✅
GREATEST movie ending ever, yeah I said it
One of my fav movies. So good
It was an awesome ride for sure.
How can this be a favorite movie??? It's about an asshole bully??? I wish I understood the appeal.
Different strokes for different folks, sometimes you don’t have to understand the appeal.
Well im sure after Sopranos & Wire some people mentioned another HBO series OZ, its not quite on the same level, good tho. JK Simmons plays big part in it😊
Fantastic reaction to one of my favorite movies!!
Im new to your channel...if yall havent already, you should react to Apocalypto...I think you will really enjoy it.
❤✌️😵💫 rough movie😬
Answer!
God I hate this movie so much it triggers me just to see this!
Movie was phenomenal 😁
Nah.. This movie was really annoying - And to think someone might watch it & think that it represents Jazz music is even more horrible.
okay, thanks!
L take. The movie isn't supposed to be a representation of jazz music, it's a psychological drama about the dangers of seeking perfection. It could have just as easily been a sports movie.
Exactly! This is my most hated movie of all time. I stopped watching new films after seeing this.
@@GuitarMonster86 It's about the dangers of employing a psychopath to be a teacher.
@@GuitarMonster86 Exactly. I guess It's just because I have a spot soft for Jazz... It hurt me to see a Duke Ellington song become the focal point of such a brutal movie.