Manchester United vs Leeds United | Rivalry Explained
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- Manchester United face Leeds on Sunday in the Premier League at Elland Road. Ahead of this historic fixture, we're gonna look at where the rivalry originated from and why there is so much hatred between United and Leeds fans.
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As a United fan living in Leeds, can confirm, the rivalry is fuckin real man
Yeah I'm the same mate, moved here for uni can't even wear a shirt in public without getting beeped at or harassed
I'm exile Mancunian what lived in Leeds Armley and Morley although I'm a blue.
Lucky for me I live in Manchester😄
I think one of the reasons these rivalries have largely become less fierce is because in this modern social media age people don't know the difference between a good rivalry and a toxic hatred
Should never go beyond football, I wouldn't even say I hate rival team players or whatnot it's a strong word, I dislike them especially on match day but you get some fans for example laughing at Hillsborough and laughing at kids with cancer who support rival teams or wishing death and rape on their families, that's where it goes too far.
Bravo. More of this type of content please! This is your best piece of content released so far this year for sure, I mean that as a compliment btw! As a fan for over 25 years I already know and understand all this stuff, but I think it's really important the younger fans coming up have access to the intricate bits of our history like this. Nice one dude.
Agreed 👍
I still remember as a kid being more excited for Leeds away than the Manchester Derby.
Manchester Derby has never really been a thing. Even with City new found success. Even Arsenal vs United in the 2000’s had more spice.
Nobody's really cared about the city rivalry until they became relevant with their money
@@anneeq008nobody cared about liverpool rivalry until they became good😂 it is like that in any case mate
City had bigger fish to fry in the lower Leagues....United never mattered ... Millwall, Birmingham, Cardiff and Middlesbrough did!
Im a Mexican, United and I only really started supporting last year so this video was great to learn from 👍🏻
Great to know you're interested in our history mate! Welcome to the family bro
Loved this mate, would love more historical content from you, even outside the prem, favourite part of pods (excluding ‘I’ve never been to an aquarium’) is when you go on a tangent and bring some wild facts from the 50s/60s 👍 still waiting on Ralphs connection to the cup winners cup 😂
I'm of the 60s 70s generation.
Yeah. Hate them.
Put the boot in Sunday.
As a United fan who grew up in exile around York, we had to drive past Elland Road every week to get to the M62 before the M1 was finished. This one really matters
I was in primary school when Leeds went down in 04, so my only proper knowledge of them in the top flight is the last two seasons. My da & grandad have told me some crazy stories from back in the day. I agree with you Ste, part of the fun of football is proper hating your rivals. It's funny that they took so long to get back up but having teams like them and City in the league is actually great for us as fans. First away day at Elland Rd on Sunday and I can't wait!
Leeds fan here and I totally agree!
Put the rivalry and hate into it!
Great post! TRIBES!!
Great upload. As long as I can remember (I'm 55) there has been a hatred of Manchester United amongst most Leeds . I remember Allan Clarke first game at Elland road as manager against man u and after the game there were thousands of Leeds fans on a hill charging down to attack the man u fan escort. Never witnessed anything like the carnage that was seen that afternoon since. I think the atmosphere at Elland road tomorrow will be pure evil. I just have a gut feeling Leeds are going to win.
The season before was even worse 3rd May 1980.
Absolutely loved this. I grew up in the seventies so for me Leeds are a close second to Liverpool in terms of rivalry. The reference to the War of the Roses is also spot on.
The fact this needs explaining makes me feel sad and old as fuck
Mostly for the new fans. Can't help it because of how shit they've besn
Spot on
Thank god someone gets rivalry and intense rivalry. Love it ❤❤
I went to the fa cup semi final against Leeds in 1977 loads of United fans including myself got tickets from Leeds,Hillsboro was about 75% red that day it was an unbelievable atmosphere that was the peak of the red army support
Born in 2005, the rivalry always intrigued me, especially as a supporter of United from outside of England. I looked through the cities' relations with each other and its roots from the War of Roses and how Leeds were a force to be reckoned with during 60s-70s, and in the late 90s and early 2000s. I can't remember who, but someone wrote it like this, "the Leeds- United rivalry is the continuation of the War of Roses on a football pitch." The color association helps, and ever since learning about that, I really wanted Leeds to come up so I could see it with my own eyes, the hatred, the passion, the story unfolding at Old Trafford and Elland Road. This rivalry is the dog's bollocks (in a good way) and long may it continue.
*colour
Fun fact: G.R.R. Martin's 'A Song of Ice and Fire' is partially inspired by the War of the Roses. Specifically, House Lannister and House Stark are parallels to House Lancaster and House York.
Thank you for this ste, as a younger Red I appreciate your videos. Never watched a United Leeds game until they got promoted 2 years ago
I've found the United/Leeds/Liverpool rivalries are started because of location but continued as they were all competitive. United in the 60s, Leeds/Liverpool 70s/80s then United again in 90s/00s and now Liverpool again
Spurs in 60s*
Definitely taught the younger and casual Reds a thing or 2 with this. Only time, I've ever been happy for Leeds is when they beat Arsenal to win us the title. Even though I grew up in the 90s, one of the earliest things I learned was we hate Leeds.
Great video and i pretty much knew all of this. I'm 49 and have been going to OT for a long time now. I will say this though, if you want to get the rivalries going again it wont start with the fans. It has to start with the players and in this day of age out of the 22 players on the pitch there will only be 2 of them that want this. The rest will probably all be on first name terms with each other and cant wait to play fifa against each other after the match has ended. Modern day footballers have killed the passion we used to enjoy so much I'm sad to say.
Leeds fan here in peace. Very well appreciated this video as fans such as Huddersfield, Barnsley or Sheff weds could not understand why the level of hate is directed towards "you lot".
From a Leeds fan perspective the reason why we hate you isn't because of jealousy, glory or success. It's how the media and yourselves are perceived. For example in 1974 when we won the league and won it in style. Man U were relegated but the whole media retric was about u going down rather than us legitimately winning the league.
Don Revie was banned by the FA for "bringing the game into disrepute" after leaving the England job to go to UAE as he was gonna be getting the sack anyway. Busby was given a knighthood and rightfully so for his achievements but the FA shunned Revie and didn't even send a representative to his funeral. A truly great manager of whom Fergie got his ideas from.
Fast forward to 1992 and the year we won the league with a midfield quartet of Speed, McAllister, Batty and Strachan. And of course Eric Cantona. Yes a daft mistake from our board but nothing said about how influential Strachan was for us. I do believe Dan James can have that influence.
The whole Munich chanting thing is disgusting and brings down the name of our football club. This game seems to bring out nutters who barely go to a game and I doubt they were there during the league one days!!! And I doubt they'll be there against spurs or Norwich in the next two home games.
From a footballing level though and the way our season has gone. We need to turn up for this one. No excuses this time. I love bielsa but he has to understand the intensity of this rivalry. We can lose heavily to any other of the top 6 and it's not gonna matter. But this one do's. And after the shambles against Everton we have to come out with a response. We need to be snapping and snarling like the Revie days and get a result and make Elland Road a cauldron without the sick chanting. But there is no love lost and we need this more than you do. Especially in the relegation battle. So c'mon Leeds, get into em!! MOT!!
If we run Man U ragged on Sunday, they will be dreading their game against Atletico midweek and you just know the whites will be up for this one. Bring it on! MOT
As a united fan this comment is one of the most sensible I have read from a leeds fan. Respect. But will be calling your lot all the names under the sun come Sunday.
Same from our perspective. Elland Road needs to be a cauldron. Like nothing else. There's alot of in fighting going on from "plastics" who have jumped on the bandwagon since Bielsa arrived and whilst we're going through a tough time are quick to pick on certain members of the squad.
We have to be at it from word go. Don't give you any time to breath. Mark Pogba out of the game and ensure we don't allow your midfield to dictate. If we can get Raphinha and Dan James into the game who will have a point to prove we can get at you. But we need to start Geldhart and not persist with Tyler Roberts. We need characters in this game and not players who will shy away because another hammering will be unacceptable against you lot.
Bring it on and someone snap Ronaldo!! That's the old Leeds way!! MOT!!
Wow this is exactly what I was looking for and you literally just dropped it 🤙🏾 thank you for the content brother!
I wanna like this video like 50 times. Been a supporter since '98 when Dwight Yorke joined. I've known Leeds to be in the Top 3 teams we hate most: Liverpool, Arsenal, Leeds...then Citeh.
Same
Loved this video Steve mate. The Leeds team of Bremner, Lorimer, Clarke, Jordan in the very early 70s was a hell of a team. Me and my mates would shout Lorimer anytime we smashed a shot at goal! Mcilroy and Macari were my favourite utd players at the time. Jumpers/coats for goalposts and games that ran for hours - happy days.
I started going to UTD in 74.
The most popular badge was a simple white circle with "I HATE LEEDS" in black text.
Nice post Steve.
Ahh '74, great year for football that 💙🤍💛
I so understand why you are in management man!! Best of luck in your journey and thanks for all the hours of good chats and banter on the channels. You're a good one!
My Stepdad is a Leeds fan, and he managed to get me and my brother tickets to watch the Carling Cup game against Leeds in 2011, the catch was they were in the Leeds stands. So it was us two United fans sitting in the home stands a stones throw away from the other United fans, getting screamed abuse at and keeping our mouths shut and heads down watching us smash them 3-0 with a team of kids and old farts.
Great video, thanks a lot for the info. I always wondered where the rivalry with Leeds came from... I'm Venezuelan and started following United in '97 (born in '82, was 15 then) and always saw Arsenal as the big rivals during the Fergie vs Wengner years because it was the fight for the title every year, I remember great games against the Leeds of Harte, Ferdinand, Smith but never knew of the intensity of the rivalry or understood it
Ste, thank you for your consistent uploading! I listen to your videos all the time as I go about my day at uni.
Hey - I'm Portuguese and I follow you guys because of the Portuguese gang mainly. This type of content is what takes you to the next level - Congrats!!!
Love videos like these, a real unexpected treat in the sub box. Would love more historical content.
Well explained Stephen. I was following "The Reds" from 1958. I remember going to a away game at Elland Road on the train direct from the Foundry I worked at in Trafford Park. No time for a change in clothes or Footwear. I felt well protected steel toe cap boots and all!!
Keep smashing these videos out lad 💪🏻
Great video. Great to know some history of our club. Cheers.
More of these types of videos Ste. The history ones and the career retrospectives were great back in the day before you took over FTD.
I remember the rivalry from the 90's. I really only hated Leeds and Chelsea then. The Scousers were irrelevant for and city wer really just noisy neighbours. I did have a healthy fear of the Arsenal in 98.
What about spurs
Leeds fan here. I apprecaite this balanced take on the rivarly. All these new Man United fans saying it's built on jealousy don't have a clue. OT is the only ground I went to where our bus got bricked (sure it happens other places) but the hate is there. ER will be fire tomorrow. These are the games we live for. MOT.
Good job prepping this video for any younger Man United fans visiting Elland Road on Sunday. They’ll be in for a shock if they have any colours on show.
This is your best video I've seen so far mate..
Ste’s workrate atm is mad. Why I love TH-cam, go from seeing shocking football opinions and knowledge on the kick off to Ste dropping real knowledge and opinions.
Am learning something new in every video from Mr Stephen Howson and am glad he is a Man utd fan so Thank you very much. GGMU
Great video, very interesting.
Liverpool fan here. Really, really interesting video. Thanks
You cannot underestimate the hatred that developed when 'Dirty Leeds' had Bremner and Co playing. For me (60yrs) hatred is Liverpool, Leeds, Arsenal, Chelsea, City
Spurs?
Great insight 👍👏👏👏
Nice history lesson Steve, great to know as I always wondered why 👍👍
Always wondered why there was a rivalry, thanks Ste!
Thank you!! I have only been following United since 2010 and have never understood all of the rivalries (except City). I would love to see one on our rivalry with Liverpool as well
Screw hand holding, I don't want my club losing to city, Leeds, arsenal Chelsea and especially Liverpool!! Let's have a go at them and come out in top bragging rights intact! It shows some character
Great vid this, I’m a Leeds fan, but my two best mate are Man U fans and I try to explain to them where the rivalry comes from. I agree with howson here but in my view, the situation is, very few clubs can legitimately claim to be the best clubs in England, Leeds and Man U are among them.
I’ve always been very envious because, if we had played things differently in the early 90’s we could have took off the way United did, ie keeping Eric and pushing on.
Love the rivalry, for some reason all common sense goes out the window when we play you lot. There is ALOT of envy at the route of it.
Derby of the roses. Lancashire vs Yorkshire. Great insight and being a Manchester lad we know this is more than football 🌹
Thank a lot ste.. keep up the good work
I have always been Leeds
Respect for your video
Roll on 18th September
Love our clashes
You and I are in the same age group of supporters. Even though I have not had the 1st hand appreciation for the rivalry between Man Utd and our fierce rivals, i do know enough to demand a level of seriousness from our players in these games. These are the games we MUST NOT LOSE at any cost.
Great video man! I absolutely agree that there needs to be fierce rivalries on and off the pitch, but cant let things get too out of hand though. Advocating violence outside of the game is not cool, but as long as there's enough fuel to fire an intense match, I'm all for it!
Reminds me of a guy from Bolton I used to work with (in Aus). We were good friends at the workplace, but whenever I talked about Man U he hated me hehe. I didn't know why at the time, but I slowly came to realise that Bolton were tacking on to Manchester as a rival because no one else really considers them a footballing threat haha.
Men fight accept it. We're tribal people at heart. Real men are anyway
After Manchester United got relegated in 1974 United took huge numbers of fans to small Division 2 grounds and smashed them up
Nice history lesson. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Content recently has been mega. 🔥
This is quality mate.
Superb review, mate. Well done. Leeds, Leeds, Leeds. Good luck against Athletico.
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Liverpool, Leeds, City, Arsenal, Chelsea in that order.
Liverpool
Leeds
City
That order
And I’m only 33
Same. City were irrelevant before the oil money, now they're a completely fake, plastic club
Liverpool
City
LEEDS
ARSENAL
CHELSEA
Thanks for this, Ste. Ralf should watch this.
As a fairly new (and Canadian) supporter, I always wondered why you and Jay would speak about Leeds when they seemed like an irrelevant club. This sorted it. Awesome history lesson. More please!
I feel what you’re saying. Even amongst friends in pick-up, when you’re playing on opposing teams, you go at each other and “hate” each other for we very minute of the game. Then when it’s over, win or lose, you have a laugh and are friends again.
Not Leeds and Man United .. pure mutual hatred for each other
Thanks for the explained
I'm a City fan but City,United,Leeds had some great sides from 1967 to 1972
love the history lesson. 👍🏻
Would be nice to this make a series on Uniteds rivalries with teams in 🇬🇧 and 🇪🇺
I agree with everything you said about wanting the rivalry hate to come back. I am one of the modern fans and the game I have loved the most so far was when we came back from 2 0 down at the etihad with mourinho. That game had everything and the players really started getting heated up towards the end of the game. That was probably the best derby I have seen.
Talking to another Utd fan here in Australia back in the late 90s, he had some interesting takes on rivalries. He was in his 70s back then, and talked about how in the 30s Utd and City fans were reasonably friendly with each other, and would mingle happily when entering the ground. He told me that he was the only Utd fan in his family - his parents and all his siblings were City fans. And among Utd fans in Australia in the 70s and 80s, the rivalry was always with Liverpool and Leeds, rather than City.
More, please. "Bring back the hate." Yes... yes.
Make this a series
That draw against the Hammers cost us the title in 92 ☹️
And the rivalry between United and the Red scouse gits started with the building of the bridge on the Manchester Ship Canal.
Until then every major engineering project in that area of the country got their workers from Liverpool, the Mayor of Manchester at that time decided to source the workmen locally. This is also where the thing about scousers being out of work started apparently lol 😂
Got told that by a scouser decades ago, no idea whether it's true or not though.
scouse b------s
Good explanation Stephen. Unfortunately, the rivalry will never be like it was because of the changes in society since the 60’s/70’’s & 80’s. If you look at the games from when I was a kid, it wasn’t “trendy” to be a football supporter then. The press more often than not, called the supporters “hooligans”. Yet now, the media love a scoop on a high profile player.. You could hardly pick out a woman, a black person, asian or anything else in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. They were there but so minimal. Most of the supporters were working class blokes, not as Roy Keane said, the prawn sandwich”. Brigade…On top of this the likes of Sky tv & the way that players are overly protected nowadays..
In the 2000s one of my ex bosses was a Leeds fan. He was unbearable with his ABU hatred.
Best youtuber out there right now
We've battered these nearly every time we've played them since they come up. Leeds get battered a lot because of the way Bielsa plays & the limitations in the quality of players. Hopefully we give them another whipping.
Leeds didn't have to look far for rivals. Everyone hated us lol. Chelski are are our 2nd biggest rivals.
I just hope we can make this game competitive. All we have in our favour is that we're due a performance. Which is a roundabout way of saying we're in poor form. Last season we only drew because Phillips played and was MOTM. This time round we have no Phillips or Bamford. We need a big performance from Meslier. Rodrigo needs to continue his good form and Raphinha needs to step up (he's been awful the last couple of games). And if Bielsa plays Rodrigo/Klich in midfield we're in big trouble.
If you were at Elland Road in 1980, you will get the rivalry.
Gary Neville said it best 3 clubs he’d never have played for Leeds city liverpool
Loved this! Up the red
My mate is Leeds and another is Manchester United. Both are in there 80’s and they always get heated when the two play, and the roots of the roses derby is still there. Leeds also had one with Chelsea back in the day, which can still be felt at Elland Road.
When us Irish talk about the best player to ever come from Ireland Johnny Giles is definitely in the argument
Best, Brady, Giles.
@@Bdoc76 Best was from Northern Ireland. A big difference
@@andymason5715Sod all difference lad, the best player to emerge from this island is George Best, I could be foolish and draw distinctions as well and say Ireland as a Soccer team hasnt produced anyone since 1922. Brady and Giles will always be in the reckoning if we're talking FAI ( Republic ). Georgie was better than both combined.
@@andymason5715 By the way, I live in the North but support the South, kind of, I don't like the two teams codology, time for football to copy rugby. Not a big fan of international football tbh.
I think there are several reasons rival players are now "matey" rather than "hatey". (1)The huge influx of foreign players. (2) Most players are fabulously wealthy compared to a couple generations ago and won't risk future income with a fight resulting in a career ending injury. (3) Social media managers and agents demanding they protect their image for sponsorship purposes.(4) Stricter refereeing that doesn't let things come to a boil.
All that chatting between opponents in the tunnel? Exchanging investment tips? 🤨
I hate leeds more than any other but its probably down to me living near selby and most of my friends supporting Leeds. Can't wait for Sunday ggmu
as a Yorkshire red ill take them still chatting about Beckford like its still relevant before calling us a scummer over any loss to Leeds and the greif that leads to
Great vid for those who didnt understand the rivalry and hatred.
Its up there with the hatred of my mob!!
Well said pal
I'm of that age where Leeds were no 1 started going to games with uncles in late 70's. City the scoucers. Keno was the last to carry the baton of rivalry. Now days the wishy washy " there's no losers" attitude you see in Park football translates. Well for those that subscribe to that philosophy it's not okay to be second. Life and history are written by the winners.
Jordan, McQueen, Graham, Eric, Rio, Smudger...nothing pleased me more than pillaging that club for their players to give them proper careers. Also haven't forgotten April 1996 at OT and Fergie's spot-on comments after.
Good article in today’s guardian on this subject
I’m from Leeds and a United fan so have to be very coy when telling people who I support. In Leeds, united are called “scum” so I’ve always known about the rivalry so this game is one of the biggest of the season for me.
Hw come u support united if u r from Leeds?
A genuine question
well said
8:55 made me press the “like” button immediately
Thanks again for the video Ste. Didn't really know why or where did this rivalry came from with Leeds. But, I knew we hated Leeds so I just went with the flow.. Now I have better knowledge about it, so I can HATE 'em more..
Rivalry on the pitch, but respect outside
I hate DIRTY LEEDS..the city...the team...the knuckle dragging fans.....i hope the players know how important this match is
Tbf Boro fans hate Leeds but seemingly Leeds fans don't care as much and don't consider it as much of a rivalry
Rivalries can also change, Newcastle United main rival has always been Sunderland, but in recent years I hear more and more people talking about Villa as the team they dislike the most, even though the cities are far from each other, I guess it started when some of they're fans celebrated our relegation. The clubs are usually on similar part of the table, and often fighting about the same players. So I would argue we have more historical rivalry with Sunderland, but more competitive rivalry with Villa.