It's interesting to see how other players setup their button bar at the bottom. I'm sitting here cringing at the random order of your controls and how much trouble that would cause me. If I set mine up like that I'd be regularly falling from the sky as I turn my engines off mid-flight. Personally: 9 - all engines 8 - braking engines 4, 5 - connector (often one to lock/unlock and one to power on/off) 1, 2, 3 - weapons selection/drill selection ... and then just fit the rest in the gaps. I avoid the 'P' key at all costs, it always seems to do more than I want it to. I often used to build a heavier cargo craft with the miner piggy backed on top of it. After dropping my miner off the top when I landed at home too many times I instead controlled them manually.
To be fair I'm completely random with the bar, I just went through the groups as I thought of them so it'd probably make sense to have a pattern :P That's always a good point about using the parking key, it has too wide an effect and can cause some very unfortunate consequences. I might have to reorganise the hotbar to get the connector lock on there...
I think, that name should be Gallus (rooster in Latina) - it's not a Swan, but still is a bird. Also, roosters and hens bites ground in search of worms, seeds and so on
Whooow this thing looks more aggressive than most of my warships! It looks like it`s about to drill straight through you :D I`d call it smth like Smilodon, following the animal-esc theme of the fleet :D
definitely going to need more Ejectors there with three Drills processing and gathering everything they munch add 1 more battery and everything should be good to go. move the small thrusters in the back 2 blocks further aft and tuck that battery right in line with the others.
You are making amazing progress with your chanel Splitsie, i bet you will shine with the big youtube stars this year! Just want to thank you now you are still able to read the comments and keep it up man!
Great video. I really like the design of your new miner, eventhough you are "red lining", but a 4 th battery should solve that. Thanks for sharing Splitsie.
Yep, definitely need to fit another battery on there somewhere... I'll probably do some upgrades to it in the next video and hopefully colour it then too :)
I'm not sure how soon I'm going to design it as I've got a new attack plan in mind for the enemy base across the lake that I want to do first but the truck will be probably be next as I need to make sure the garage entrance can fit it with the miner on top, and it might be useful to haul salvage :)
For your power issue, you could make some sort of detachable power package, A single large reactor/a handful of small reactors + connector that you can attach the miner to when you leave the base, detach when you get to your mining location, then reconnect for hauling back.
Splitsi i do just want to point out, that you do just Ned to supply power to 3 directions of your thrusters. Also it is good to check if your thrust can support your cargo containers, being full to the brim then you will get a more efficient design.
Just pondering the redline power on the miner. The situation that redline power will hurt you is if you are loaded and moving too fast. It will divert power from the lift thrusters to forward thrusters to stop you, causing you to drop. Those 2 large lift thrusters are roughly equivalent to 10 small thrusters, but more power efficient. You might try turning off the small lift thrusters and see how it handles. They may not be needed. You could always just turn them on if/when you get overloaded. You could also put two more ejectors on the other 2 cargo containers.
I'm thinking you could be right with the power situation. I'm going to try to see if I can add another battery but since you mention it I should also try shutting off the small lifting thrusters to see what happens :)
I think you missed two backwards thrusters in your Reverse Thrust Group. You can see them at 19:04 Also check out the Updated Compact Batteries mod. It has three smaller small grid batteries that are scaled to the vanilla battery in both power and material cost. I find it gives you a bit more freedom when it comes to battery placement instead of only having to deal with the bulky ones. Thanks again for the quality content!
Thanks for that, I didn't even notice myself missing them while editing. That'll be one of the first things I fix as I couldn't understand why I wasn't coasting forwards very easily :P
Is it a matter of power delivery rather than capacity? Would a couple of those small batteries work to help allow more delivery if you are happy with capacity?
Potentially, though I'm not sure they'd recharge fast enough (and you lose charge transferring from battery to battery) for that to be useful for more than just a very short burst
What key do you use to park and unpark the miner? I dont see any connector "switchlock" bind, and ive always heard you say to not use "P" cause it may cause problems with other connected things.
Yeah, that's what I did on the ugly duckling, just had a brain fart when I did this one, as I agree with you it does look neater, and you can put an asterisk at the end so it's symmetrical too ;)
Name it 'The Mole'. (for it's digging capacity of course). And then you can give it a really badass colour scheme using red and black for example. It'll give it a nice, agressive look!
I've built a copy of the miner myself and found it limited to about 85000 total weight, but I'm at higher altitudes with low O2. I think it could use a little hydro assistance. :)
At higher altitudes it probably does need a little help, in my testing off camera I found I could manage with 100k but as you say I'm close to sea level. I'll have to remember that if I ends up mining in a mountain :)
I presume, from what you were saying about symmetry, that this was made before the symmetry tools were added (not seeing 'm' and 'n' on your hot-bar, either)?
I think I'm still a long way from my lifting capacity, if I have enough power. What I'm thinking I might do is move the thrusters at the rear a bit further out to allow another battery to fit in there :)
Looks great☺ One or two minor (er) things I might experiment with are carrying the slope from the side up onto the outside shoulders and tying it into the back with a cut corner block...Might ease and round off the top a bit..Also., I might try some armour around the ejectors..even just half blocks should work I'm kinda liking the name Dallas too, for all the reasons you mentioned...and also because Dallas was Captain of the Nostromo..and you have a bit of that aesthetic going on ☺ Overall tough...a really nice build again :)
Love the pun ;) I might have a look at what you're suggesting with the lines on the sides. Something like that could certainly help with the chubbiness of the whole thing :P I'm starting to think that Butterball would work for it - fits with the bird thing with the ugly duckling, while still being descriptive ;)
Splitsie And just the sort of thing a poor engineer, marooned on a hostile planet..nothing to eat but suit rations..just the sort of thing he would name a ship,😃 I think we might have a winner there. And a fun meme to run with for this series ☺
That's an excellent point, thinking of foods and anything that reminds of home :) Now I've just got to see if I can make it look like a perfectly cooked turkey... might just make it look like butter instead as I don't think I'd get the colour of the skin right :P
I agree with the other commentors, you do a good job giving tips and explaining things. Also, I was thinking 'Platypus' for the ship, not sure why though. :D Though you could name it "Arthur' so the Tick has his friend.
If you want to follow along the avian trend, I'd suggest the Turkey or Ostrich as they're certainly more buff. Turkey might be better reserved for a transport though as a big hauling vessel with a feast on board seems like the theme it would run, certainly a feast for someone who hunts it. Ostriches are generally not ones you'd want to mess with by comparison. Chicken would work too, a bit fattened up and suits the constant egg/rock laying it does. Insect wise I immediately thought of a beatle and seems I was not the only one, could be a Dung Beatle or another species. June Bug are a little bulky in nature and a Beatle.
Not to say your design isnt appealing either, it has its ascetic and is more Goose than swan. Or Icelandic Hen, Bronze Turkey, and Cicada might also fit the bill.
I don't think you need more power on it. you have way more up thrust then you need, if you turn off or remove a few of the down facing small thrusters I think you will be fine. Right now they are just wasting juice when you go up. You might want to flip a pair of them around so you have some upward facing thrusters. Even in earth G they help on miners so you don't drift forward when you tilt down to mine.
I might look into that, if it's only a couple that are pushing me over that could be really helpful, though it might also be nice to have a comfortable amount of thrust for the cargo capacity so I guess I'll have to look at both possibilities :)
like the way you create, first it have to be funktional as it can be, and then make it look stylish, same way I do :-). and I like pretty much, how you create the sides of your ship, specialy the parts around the bottom-side-thrusters.
Can't wait to see what you do with your large rover. Whenever I build something large that has any real components on it, it loses the speed or strength to go up almost any slope at all...
Im suprised this flys rather well, as it reminds me of Ecto Sages first better miner, that crashed right into the ground b/c of all the amor. I think a 6 drill version with 2x large containers (same wight as the 4 medium but 2x volume) in the middle and 3 large upward atmos on each side woud even work better.
Jep, works. Even found out that half blocks can be placed between the connectors with docking still possible. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1266125315 Dugg out 70000kg so far. Will test more tomorrow. May need more side thrustes.
Those get damaged easily as well, they just don't deform. From my testing on dropping ships onto armor the light armor handles at least as well and for a ship like this it's nice to have the reduced weight of armor blocks. Though I'm still going to have to be gentle with my landings... hopefully more gentle than I was with the ugly duckling when I flipped it :P
That is looking sweeeeeeeet and can only get better once it is painted. At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, do you know that you can clean up your Control Panel by hiding items via the "Show block in terminal" option? ie once you have grouped your Thrusters for instance, you can hide them by turning Off "Show block in terminal" for all of the individual thrusters, leaving just the Thruster Group(s) visible on the inventory. The same goes for individual items that you wont need to access on a regular basis vie the inventory ie the antenna, which you have on your hot bar. Like I said, I'm not trying to teach an expert like you but I do no that some things can go by unknown or forgotten.
I really need to use that function more often, I'm pretty lazy when it comes to organising my control panels. So many times I've loaded up something from the workshop and everything is all numbered and named sensibly and I've thought it would be a great idea, only to go back to my build and see that as a not-fun thing and just build on even more messy stuff :P And don't worry about mentioning things that I might know, if I'm aware I take no offense and if I'm not then I learn something :)
I had the same problem and would spend far to much time trying to find items in long list in the CP. Then I got into the habit of hiding items every time I made a group. At that point, they are all already selected and its just a mater of clicking the box. It still leaves a few unnecessary items visible. But that is a bit easier to manage as it becomes easier to tuck them away each time I go into the CP and notice something else that doesn't need to be showing, .
Can you tell me how to set up the all three Drills to my left and Right Mouse Button? I Tryed to manage it but in any Case it will not work for all three together with Mousebuttons. I only can start and stop them all together over my G Menue but than i cant make some big Holes like i can do with my right MB pls Help
When adding the drill to your hotbar, on the top left of the G menu that pops up there should be a couple of tabs one of which will say 'Ship Tools' use the drill from that one and all 3 drills should be able to be operated when that tool bar option is selected :)
@@Splitsie Sorry Mate :) sometimes i think i played too long this Day. The Problem was that i dont tryed to test the two options for the Drill in my "Block Tool" Menu only tryed one of them :/ Thanks for your help and sry for my bad English
My only times I've reverted so far have been when something's gone wrong with my recording software. There was only one recording that I wish I'd been able to use, I'd had a ridiculously close shave with the ugly duckling but Audacity did something weird to my mic recording that made the whole session completely unusable :( Otherwise though, if I do something silly I live with it as it creates more challenges to overcome :)
It's a shame Audacity screwed up on you! I'm sure it would have been a funny clip to add to the series. I'm glad that you feel that any silly mistakes made in-game give you an obstacle to overcome! Keep up the good work! :)
I very much am, I'd recorded this before you mentioned that naming possibility. I'm still not certain I'll choose it but if I can work out a colour scheme with the yellow, butter is certainly a possible name. Though it is competing with Bulldog now too :)
Yep, but like red paint it makes it feel like it goes faster :P The main argument for the armour is that it'll hopefully take some of the damage from any bumps but being honest it's mostly for the looks :)
ship looks good. I get your reference with the shoulder pads. Not so sure about 'Dallas' Maybe 'Miami Vice' is more in line with shoulder pads :D My names for it would either be 'Scarab', 'The Vice', or 'The Beetle' (which is like a scarab), or 'Orin' from Orin Scrivello D.D.S. from little shop of horrors. Another 80's throwback
Yeah, I wasn't super sold on the name. Miami Vice would have been a much better reference but I didn't think of it at the time. I'm almost certainly going to be renaming it before it goes on the workshop, so I'm loving all these other name options you've given me :)
I'm not usually keen on mods that make the game easier, though having some use for the stone you mine would be nice - I'm a bit of a fiend for hard survival challenges. On the server I play 7DTD on with my housemate I'm constantly editing the game to make the enemies tougher and more dangerous, much to his dismay :P
In terms of maximum thrust.. there are a couple of problems with that miner. Small block small thrusters offer more thrust vs. mass and thrust vs. space. The only area where the large thrusters can outdo the small thrusters are in terms of energy efficiency. You will also need more backwards thrusters as your drills will tend to end up in vertical positions. Forward thrusters aren't that big of a deal as you'll be fighting gravity, not thrusting into it. As far as the ejectors... MOOOR! Getting rid of unwanted stone asap is important. The more useless stone you're carrying, the harder your thrusters have to work... the faster you will burn through your batteries and the longer it will take to get a full load of ore.
I'm pretty accustomed to flying my miner and keeping it mostly horizontal while doing so, and the 8 reverse thrusters seem to be working comfortably for me, but if you have a tendency to end up vertical you'll want more and you'll definitely want some thrusters pointing upwards for safety too. As for the ejectors I'm probably going to relocate them so I hope to be able to fit more on as your point about battery power is spot on, I do need to get rid of the weight ASAP :)
That's a good option, thanks :) I've got a few I like and I'll think about it while I'm working out the colouring as I think that will have a big impact on what I feel fits the ship best
@@Splitsie hehe, it's still a very fun design! I like the suspenders- i would have been tempted to wrap them all the way around, but it probably would have ended up looking like an antique luggage at some point.
Splitsie These mods might help with making aesthitic ships. They do not change any of the the thrusters ratings, just add a version with armor clad for looks. Armored Atmospheric engines: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=601008185 Armored hydrogen Engines: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=614733782 Armored Ion Engines: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761340487
Thanks for the links. I have used some of those mods before, though for the small ships in this series I'm going to try to keep them as vanilla as possible so that people can use them no matter what setup they're playing in :)
I was suprised by its weight too - I think it might be the multiple batteries and all those thrusters. Still even with it's dry weight being quite high it can carry a solid load of ore :)
Nice Ore Brute, or Weevil. Thoughts about using tires in or as armour for a miner? Do they work better for bouncing from low impact hits? What about composite armors made of light armor ribbed with non deforming blocks to direct the deformation dynamics away from critical flights systems? (Yes I realize That's a larger question than for just a miner) ;)
I stuck with light armor for the miner because of its weight. I wanted to maximise the ore carrying capacity so I didn't want to use stronger but heavier blocks. I might well regret that when I bump it, but the light armor is still very effective vs voxels as I've seen when testing so hopefully it'll be ok :P
That's exactly what I did at the start of my tests and everything survived, in fact the light armor had the highest survivability outside of the wheels with suspension. The added weight of blocks like heavy armor and blast doors increases the force of impact enough to overcome the extra damage resistance sadly :/
Splitsie I recall. What I didn't recall was tires, side on to point of impact and without suspension, acting as bumpers. You're on the ball, thanks for the dialogue. :)
Batteries have a higher peak power output, to run a ship like the butterball off reactors you'd need 10s of them to output enough power per second for the thrusters. Plus I'm doing all the planetary stuff without uranium :)
@@Splitsie I have had one issue though...when I park it on a connector I switch batteries to charge and they show charging..but when I release lock of connector to fly away the ship falls down flips over and batteries are completely flat? Has happened 3 times and getting this size ship back straight is no easy feat...so dismantled untill I find out what's going on why it just does and falls over open release from lock on connector?
When batteries are set to charge they won't discharge any power, so that'll be what's causing it to fall when you unlock. If there isn't much charge going to the batteries while you're docked then you may need to increase the amount of power production
All of my miners suck... Also what's with the Zebra thing in the start? And one last thing, do you ever think of updating the intro or making a new one?
My time on TH-cam started with a friend with our channel th-cam.com/users/zebramonkeys and I made the intro for using on there but rarely had a video where it made sense to use it. When I started making my solo videos I figured it was a good way to tie the two together so I've stuck with it. I'm happy with it as it's short and labels the videos easily :)
"its because your brain has a preferred side of the ship even if it is perfectly symmetrical, your subconscious mind helps you store certain aspects of what you saw on the preferred side more than on the non preferred or desired side... that's why its hard to remember what you did on the other side when trying to maintain equilibrium but having to rotate the parts to face outwards on both sides... a trick of the mind is that you did remember how it was... but it has been inverted now :)))
I really wish we could have the ability to build onto a projection so you could use creative mode tools like symmetry mode in a survival game, would make stuff like this much easier to do :)
It'd be nice if they could dump those small stones just a little bit quicker, but I guess it's also cool to have to engineer around the problem and build more ejectors so I'm on the fence :P
You should upgrade your miner with some scripts and use those little half lcds for power reading and cargo load. There also is a script made by the same guy who makes vector thrust 2 that has this coasting script that allows you to keep moving forward without turning off your thrusters. One last script which i love is a docking script that turns pff everything and sets batteries to recharge.
I'm planning on using Isy's battery script on one of the programmable blocks, but I'll have to take a look at that coasting script could be very handy :)
“So lets go in and turn those off so we don’t use power with them” He says, turning off the ore detector and antenna, but not the almost blinding lights that probably use much more? 7:28-9 ish
I think I might have, as I'll lose speed if I'm tilted upwards a little bit - because I like recording without the crosshair getting things level is usually quite a rough science :P
I'm not sure, I've been experiencing some intermittent drops like that recently and can't seem to indentify the source, hopefully I'll have a chance soon to look through a few possibilities. That or do the upgrade I've been planning for a while ;)
Looking at the thruster plume it always seems like they use them simultaneously, so I've always assumed - though never tested - the autopilot was less efficient
Splitsie please help me dude, I made this ship by hand watching the video and your containers are like 10k L of volume and mine are only 3.3k. I'm using the same ones too, medium ones. Also when I dock to my base for some reason only some of the ore's i've gathered transfers on it's own to the bases cargo container. I can transfer the rest manually via the menus but I would like for it to all transfer on it's own.
It's how the game settings were back then, you couldn't separate engineer inventory from grid inventory multiplier so most people played on x3 which tripled the storage space. These days I only use x3 for the engineer but realistic for the grids which gives me what you're seeing :) To transfer things automatically you need to use sorters or a script to do the sorting for you
@@Splitsie ooooooooooooooo sorters! thanks so much dude, really appreciate the reply and the vids, this game has a steep learning curve but these vids help so much.
as commented in Part 1 your projection is backwards, because your Projector is backwards, ever since your tutorial you think the part with the single vertical is the front, but it is not.
Yeah I've had no luck with the recommended placement. Grid pivot - which is (somewhat randomly) determined when placing the first block of a grid - also plays a role, I think. So I've gotten into the habit of enabling Show Grid Pivot when starting a new grid. A grid's pivot can be fixed later with a workaround: steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/626329186868860061/ forum.keenswh.com/threads/hotkey-to-reset-pivot-point.7357651/ It'd be nice if SE provided some way to do this without pasting or merging.
Just load up the projection and spend a couple of minutes aligning it. I've pretty much given up waiting for keen to make it easy to see what way the blocks are facing, just consider yourself lucky that you can see which way LCDs are facing now.
That sounds like a good idea, I'll see if Capac can do a chewie impression and add a sound block to the blueprint before I publish it to the workshop ;)
I don't know if I'd be able to handle losing her :P I do have an idea for it though, with some minor upgrades it'll be capable of setting up a defensive perimeter idea that I've had ;)
I have tested and made your ship it does not work properly imine the power dies of very quickly and the forward thrust is not powerful enough and my voice put some downwards Frost so you can get up if the ship flips that's all
I always build atmospheric mining ships to remain horizontal, if you're flipping or relying on the reverse thrusters you're tilting it too far. The reason I do that is efficiency, the ore deposits are horizontal veins so a vertical miner wastes a lot of time getting through all the rock on top and the extra weight of the extra thrusters means you can't carry as much ore. As to your power problems, batteries only start with 25% charge, you will need to connect this to a base or other grid in order to get it fully charged at which point it should be capable of making a few trips to a mine that's up to 8km away based on my experience in the series. In my tutorial series that I restarted recently, I talked through the approach to building an atmospheric mining ship and how to use the artificial horizon to help you keep yourself level to avoid crashing so often th-cam.com/video/SrDI1_MAokE/w-d-xo.html
I love the Dallas, it reminds me of the 80's, when women's shoulders were bigger than men's.
Lol! Perfect description :)
It's interesting to see how other players setup their button bar at the bottom. I'm sitting here cringing at the random order of your controls and how much trouble that would cause me. If I set mine up like that I'd be regularly falling from the sky as I turn my engines off mid-flight.
Personally:
9 - all engines
8 - braking engines
4, 5 - connector (often one to lock/unlock and one to power on/off)
1, 2, 3 - weapons selection/drill selection
... and then just fit the rest in the gaps.
I avoid the 'P' key at all costs, it always seems to do more than I want it to. I often used to build a heavier cargo craft with the miner piggy backed on top of it. After dropping my miner off the top when I landed at home too many times I instead controlled them manually.
To be fair I'm completely random with the bar, I just went through the groups as I thought of them so it'd probably make sense to have a pattern :P
That's always a good point about using the parking key, it has too wide an effect and can cause some very unfortunate consequences. I might have to reorganise the hotbar to get the connector lock on there...
I did watch in horror as you nearly flew Dallas away with almost no battery power!
I was pretty lucky to have thought of that as I was flying away, normally I'm not quite so observant :P
Naming and grouping blocks, the most underrated and time savings step. Such great advice.
Advice that it has taken me an embarrassingly long time to heed :P
I think, that name should be Gallus (rooster in Latina) - it's not a Swan, but still is a bird. Also, roosters and hens bites ground in search of worms, seeds and so on
A good option, I'm probably going to be renaming it so I'll add that to the list of possibles :)
you have my vote :)
A friend of mine found this miner on the workshop and I am to this day using this as my standard atmospheric miner
I just started watching your videos so I've been binging the whole thing :D.
Awesome, glad you're enjoying them :)
Doing the same as you, but 6 years later! 👍🏼
@@MarcCastellsBallesta lol neat, It's a great series, I love splitsie's stuff :)
Keep up with these videos, they have been greatly helpful and fun!
Thanks :)
Thanks for your tips. I actually needed to redesign my junkers and you gave some much needed insight on the matter ;)
Thank you, I'm glad they've been useful :)
Whooow this thing looks more aggressive than most of my warships! It looks like it`s about to drill straight through you :D I`d call it smth like Smilodon, following the animal-esc theme of the fleet :D
I like the idea, but I don't like my chances of saying it without stumbling :P
Nice ship, I like the way it turned out ! Much more streamlined.
This is still one of those designs that I'm proud of, it worked out far nicer than I had expected :)
definitely going to need more Ejectors there with three Drills processing and gathering everything they munch
add 1 more battery and everything should be good to go.
move the small thrusters in the back 2 blocks further aft and tuck that battery right in line with the others.
dont suppose you will eventually upload your lil creations from this scenario to the workshop?
I will indeed, as soon as the miner is painted I'll post it to the workshop :)
Can’t wait to try it out!
I'm curious to see if Splitsie finds out in a future episode that he didn't get all the reverse thrusters in the reverse thrust group
You are making amazing progress with your chanel Splitsie,
i bet you will shine with the big youtube stars this year!
Just want to thank you now you are still able to read the comments and keep it up man!
Thank so much :)
I'll keep trying to reply to as many as I can!
Great video. I really like the design of your new miner, eventhough you are "red lining", but a 4 th battery should solve that. Thanks for sharing Splitsie.
Yep, definitely need to fit another battery on there somewhere... I'll probably do some upgrades to it in the next video and hopefully colour it then too :)
T R U C K S ! ! ! !
When Space Engineers meets Big Rigs: Over the road Racing!!!!
I'm so fracking excited about it! Truck love forever!
I'm not sure how soon I'm going to design it as I've got a new attack plan in mind for the enemy base across the lake that I want to do first but the truck will be probably be next as I need to make sure the garage entrance can fit it with the miner on top, and it might be useful to haul salvage :)
For your power issue, you could make some sort of detachable power package, A single large reactor/a handful of small reactors + connector that you can attach the miner to when you leave the base, detach when you get to your mining location, then reconnect for hauling back.
That would be an option, but I don't have uranium to power the reactors so I'll probably try to figure out where to add another battery :)
Detachable battery pack! Let's over-engineer everything! haha
That sounds like my kind of solution to a simple problem ;)
Just a little help, if you duble tap (in your case) the 5 button, the armor type will reset to the cube.
I did not know that, thanks! :)
Nice design, great videos.
Thanks :)
Splitsi i do just want to point out, that you do just Ned to supply power to 3 directions of your thrusters. Also it is good to check if your thrust can support your cargo containers, being full to the brim then you will get a more efficient design.
I recommend more batteries les cargo
I'm going to try more batteries with the same cargo and see how that performs as I really want to be able to take large loads with this thing :)
Just pondering the redline power on the miner. The situation that redline power will hurt you is if you are loaded and moving too fast. It will divert power from the lift thrusters to forward thrusters to stop you, causing you to drop. Those 2 large lift thrusters are roughly equivalent to 10 small thrusters, but more power efficient. You might try turning off the small lift thrusters and see how it handles. They may not be needed. You could always just turn them on if/when you get overloaded. You could also put two more ejectors on the other 2 cargo containers.
I'm thinking you could be right with the power situation. I'm going to try to see if I can add another battery but since you mention it I should also try shutting off the small lifting thrusters to see what happens :)
Glad you saved the "Ugly Duckling", and loving the completed miner. I would personally put a few small reactors on it, but that's just me.
If I had uranium I'd do the same :)
Love this series!
Aww, thanks :)
Loving the series. Can't wait to see more
Thanks :)
Color suggestion for the dallas: Gray, orange drills, yellow and black stripes on the sides.
I'm thinking a light grey with a hint of blue, yellow and a darker grey for a few extra highlights, so we're pretty close :)
I think you missed two backwards thrusters in your Reverse Thrust Group. You can see them at 19:04
Also check out the Updated Compact Batteries mod. It has three smaller small grid batteries that are scaled to the vanilla battery in both power and material cost. I find it gives you a bit more freedom when it comes to battery placement instead of only having to deal with the bulky ones. Thanks again for the quality content!
Thanks for that, I didn't even notice myself missing them while editing. That'll be one of the first things I fix as I couldn't understand why I wasn't coasting forwards very easily :P
Wheee! Thank you Splitsie.
You're very welcome :)
Is it a matter of power delivery rather than capacity? Would a couple of those small batteries work to help allow more delivery if you are happy with capacity?
Potentially, though I'm not sure they'd recharge fast enough (and you lose charge transferring from battery to battery) for that to be useful for more than just a very short burst
What key do you use to park and unpark the miner? I dont see any connector "switchlock" bind, and ive always heard you say to not use "P" cause it may cause problems with other connected things.
When I want a group at the top I use this * so it has two stars, just looks neater to me.
Yeah, that's what I did on the ugly duckling, just had a brain fart when I did this one, as I agree with you it does look neater, and you can put an asterisk at the end so it's symmetrical too ;)
Name it 'The Mole'. (for it's digging capacity of course). And then you can give it a really badass colour scheme using red and black for example. It'll give it a nice, agressive look!
I'm going to be trying a few different colour schemes out for it so I'll give that a shot too :)
Splitsie Nice! Can't wait to see it! I'm also really curious to see what you'll do with the garage/hangar.
I should be sleeping cause I got school in 7 and a half hours, but you uploaded so there's that...
But then what will you watch while you get to school ;)
Splitsie hmm Deja Vu
I've built a copy of the miner myself and found it limited to about 85000 total weight, but I'm at higher altitudes with low O2.
I think it could use a little hydro assistance. :)
At higher altitudes it probably does need a little help, in my testing off camera I found I could manage with 100k but as you say I'm close to sea level. I'll have to remember that if I ends up mining in a mountain :)
Splitsie, I'm going to stick some small hydro on mine and see how it goes. :)
Need another battery definitely, should of tested before the greebling. Great series btw.
Thanks and probably, but I doubt that's going to be the last time I make that mistake :P
I presume, from what you were saying about symmetry, that this was made before the symmetry tools were added (not seeing 'm' and 'n' on your hot-bar, either)?
Symmetry tools are only available in creative mode, they were available back then though :)
@@Splitsie Only creative, eh? Well that sux ;-s lol
I am having trouble mining with flying ships. Do you make a whole straight down then cut your way level?
Yeah, that's often been my approach. Use right click mining to dig a nice wide shaft down to the ore then left click once it's exposed :)
if you reached your lifting capacity but not your cargo volume, you could replace one of the cargo containers with a battery
I think I'm still a long way from my lifting capacity, if I have enough power. What I'm thinking I might do is move the thrusters at the rear a bit further out to allow another battery to fit in there :)
In my opinion, you should add two more "landing skids", one block spaced inwards from where the current ones are.
I've got a change in mind for the skids that I hope will work out and make the profile a little less fat looking :)
Oh, alright. I'm looking forward to that.
your new miner looks like a snapping turtle tbh
Looks great☺ One or two minor (er) things I might experiment with are carrying the slope from the side up onto the outside shoulders and tying it into the back with a cut corner block...Might ease and round off the top a bit..Also., I might try some armour around the ejectors..even just half blocks should work
I'm kinda liking the name Dallas too, for all the reasons you mentioned...and also because Dallas was Captain of the Nostromo..and you have a bit of that aesthetic going on ☺
Overall tough...a really nice build again :)
Love the pun ;)
I might have a look at what you're suggesting with the lines on the sides. Something like that could certainly help with the chubbiness of the whole thing :P
I'm starting to think that Butterball would work for it - fits with the bird thing with the ugly duckling, while still being descriptive ;)
Splitsie And just the sort of thing a poor engineer, marooned on a hostile planet..nothing to eat but suit rations..just the sort of thing he would name a ship,😃 I think we might have a winner there. And a fun meme to run with for this series ☺
That's an excellent point, thinking of foods and anything that reminds of home :)
Now I've just got to see if I can make it look like a perfectly cooked turkey... might just make it look like butter instead as I don't think I'd get the colour of the skin right :P
Splitsie This I can't wait to see...plus technically, being a miner..It's self stuffing 😜
I was thinking the whole time you were building this (and i know i'm a bit late to the series) that you should call it the "Chubby Duckling" lol
That's sort of the same idea as the butterball - it's a big fat turkey :P
Dallas works. A bonus for me is that the ship has a similar style to the Nostromo from Alien and th ecommander of that ship was named Dallas.
Oh man, the double reference going on :)
Don't be too upset, but it did get a name change later on :P
Do you have a blueprint of the Dallas? EDIT: nvm. its called the butterball
Yep it's on my workshop page as the butterball :)
@@Splitsie Yes thanks, I found it :)
I agree with the other commentors, you do a good job giving tips and explaining things. Also, I was thinking 'Platypus' for the ship, not sure why though. :D Though you could name it "Arthur' so the Tick has his friend.
I might not name this Arthur, but I'm pretty sure we've got the name for when I build a heavier tank ;)
If you want to follow along the avian trend, I'd suggest the Turkey or Ostrich as they're certainly more buff.
Turkey might be better reserved for a transport though as a big hauling vessel with a feast on board seems like the theme it would run, certainly a feast for someone who hunts it.
Ostriches are generally not ones you'd want to mess with by comparison. Chicken would work too, a bit fattened up and suits the constant egg/rock laying it does.
Insect wise I immediately thought of a beatle and seems I was not the only one, could be a Dung Beatle or another species. June Bug are a little bulky in nature and a Beatle.
Not to say your design isnt appealing either, it has its ascetic and is more Goose than swan. Or Icelandic Hen, Bronze Turkey, and Cicada might also fit the bill.
What about Butterball, as in butterball turkey?
I don't think you need more power on it. you have way more up thrust then you need, if you turn off or remove a few of the down facing small thrusters I think you will be fine. Right now they are just wasting juice when you go up. You might want to flip a pair of them around so you have some upward facing thrusters. Even in earth G they help on miners so you don't drift forward when you tilt down to mine.
I might look into that, if it's only a couple that are pushing me over that could be really helpful, though it might also be nice to have a comfortable amount of thrust for the cargo capacity so I guess I'll have to look at both possibilities :)
like the way you create, first it have to be funktional as it can be, and then make it look stylish, same way I do :-).
and I like pretty much, how you create the sides of your ship, specialy the parts around the bottom-side-thrusters.
Thanks, I think ships look better when they're functional first as it makes them feel more real to me :)
Have you seen the starting miner for eve? looks a bit like that
Not in a very, very long time - I think I last played EVE in about 2011 :P
Can't wait to see what you do with your large rover. Whenever I build something large that has any real components on it, it loses the speed or strength to go up almost any slope at all...
I've got a few ideas and most of them are overengineered to a padded room level of insanity ;)
I know this is an older video, but are you using a camera mod? Or is it a creative thing only?
This was all made in survival, I had two camera mods, one to make the screen clear and the digi's camera panning mod for angling the camera
Im suprised this flys rather well, as it reminds me of Ecto Sages first better miner, that crashed right into the ground b/c of all the amor.
I think a 6 drill version with 2x large containers (same wight as the 4 medium but 2x volume) in the middle and 3 large upward atmos on each side woud even work better.
Jep, works. Even found out that half blocks can be placed between the connectors with docking still possible. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1266125315 Dugg out 70000kg so far. Will test more tomorrow. May need more side thrustes.
Will you upload the project thingy for people to rebuild?
Once the miner is completed I'm going to put it up on the workshop :)
Dont use armor blocks to Rest the ship on...they will get damaged. Use blast door blocks or Small tires instead
Those get damaged easily as well, they just don't deform. From my testing on dropping ships onto armor the light armor handles at least as well and for a ship like this it's nice to have the reduced weight of armor blocks. Though I'm still going to have to be gentle with my landings... hopefully more gentle than I was with the ugly duckling when I flipped it :P
That is looking sweeeeeeeet and can only get better once it is painted.
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, do you know that you can clean up your Control Panel by hiding items via the "Show block in terminal" option? ie once you have grouped your Thrusters for instance, you can hide them by turning Off "Show block in terminal" for all of the individual thrusters, leaving just the Thruster Group(s) visible on the inventory. The same goes for individual items that you wont need to access on a regular basis vie the inventory ie the antenna, which you have on your hot bar.
Like I said, I'm not trying to teach an expert like you but I do no that some things can go by unknown or forgotten.
I really need to use that function more often, I'm pretty lazy when it comes to organising my control panels. So many times I've loaded up something from the workshop and everything is all numbered and named sensibly and I've thought it would be a great idea, only to go back to my build and see that as a not-fun thing and just build on even more messy stuff :P
And don't worry about mentioning things that I might know, if I'm aware I take no offense and if I'm not then I learn something :)
I had the same problem and would spend far to much time trying to find items in long list in the CP. Then I got into the habit of hiding items every time I made a group. At that point, they are all already selected and its just a mater of clicking the box. It still leaves a few unnecessary items visible. But that is a bit easier to manage as it becomes easier to tuck them away each time I go into the CP and notice something else that doesn't need to be showing, .
For a brick, he flew pretty good!
I'd throw Cairo in for a name, but that's just me being a Halo fan.
It's not really space engineers unless there's a flying brick somewhere ;)
Can you tell me how to set up the all three Drills to my left and Right Mouse Button? I Tryed to manage it but in any Case it will not work for all three together with Mousebuttons. I only can start and stop them all together over my G Menue but than i cant make some big Holes like i can do with my right MB pls Help
When adding the drill to your hotbar, on the top left of the G menu that pops up there should be a couple of tabs one of which will say 'Ship Tools' use the drill from that one and all 3 drills should be able to be operated when that tool bar option is selected :)
@@Splitsie Sorry Mate :) sometimes i think i played too long this Day. The Problem was that i dont tryed to test the two options for the Drill in my "Block Tool" Menu only tryed one of them :/ Thanks for your help and sry for my bad English
You're all good, no need to apologise. Glad I could help :)
Hey Splitsie! Great episode as always! Have you had any off camera incidents that caused to you to revert to an old save in this series?
My only times I've reverted so far have been when something's gone wrong with my recording software. There was only one recording that I wish I'd been able to use, I'd had a ridiculously close shave with the ugly duckling but Audacity did something weird to my mic recording that made the whole session completely unusable :(
Otherwise though, if I do something silly I live with it as it creates more challenges to overcome :)
It's a shame Audacity screwed up on you! I'm sure it would have been a funny clip to add to the series. I'm glad that you feel that any silly mistakes made in-game give you an obstacle to overcome! Keep up the good work! :)
If U could steer well with a reverse camera, U could add a couple gat guns that fire as U retreat .
Still thinking about making it butter?
I very much am, I'd recorded this before you mentioned that naming possibility. I'm still not certain I'll choose it but if I can work out a colour scheme with the yellow, butter is certainly a possible name. Though it is competing with Bulldog now too :)
Splitsie awesome!
Doesnt more armor add weight and drains the battery faster?
Yep, but like red paint it makes it feel like it goes faster :P
The main argument for the armour is that it'll hopefully take some of the damage from any bumps but being honest it's mostly for the looks :)
ship looks good. I get your reference with the shoulder pads. Not so sure about 'Dallas' Maybe 'Miami Vice' is more in line with shoulder pads :D
My names for it would either be 'Scarab', 'The Vice', or 'The Beetle' (which is like a scarab), or 'Orin' from Orin Scrivello D.D.S. from little shop of horrors. Another 80's throwback
Yeah, I wasn't super sold on the name. Miami Vice would have been a much better reference but I didn't think of it at the time.
I'm almost certainly going to be renaming it before it goes on the workshop, so I'm loving all these other name options you've given me :)
My drill ship (weight 237482.00 kg) have 40 atmo thrusters and 18 gyroscope and not can't stable in air what can I do about that ?
Maybe it'd be worth getting the concrete mod and use the stone to make super durable heavy armor.
I'm not usually keen on mods that make the game easier, though having some use for the stone you mine would be nice - I'm a bit of a fiend for hard survival challenges. On the server I play 7DTD on with my housemate I'm constantly editing the game to make the enemies tougher and more dangerous, much to his dismay :P
In terms of maximum thrust.. there are a couple of problems with that miner. Small block small thrusters offer more thrust vs. mass and thrust vs. space. The only area where the large thrusters can outdo the small thrusters are in terms of energy efficiency. You will also need more backwards thrusters as your drills will tend to end up in vertical positions. Forward thrusters aren't that big of a deal as you'll be fighting gravity, not thrusting into it.
As far as the ejectors... MOOOR! Getting rid of unwanted stone asap is important. The more useless stone you're carrying, the harder your thrusters have to work... the faster you will burn through your batteries and the longer it will take to get a full load of ore.
I'm pretty accustomed to flying my miner and keeping it mostly horizontal while doing so, and the 8 reverse thrusters seem to be working comfortably for me, but if you have a tendency to end up vertical you'll want more and you'll definitely want some thrusters pointing upwards for safety too.
As for the ejectors I'm probably going to relocate them so I hope to be able to fit more on as your point about battery power is spot on, I do need to get rid of the weight ASAP :)
Those front interior lights probably would've been fine. the thruster's damage area is smaller than the full block.
Maybe, but I've always had issues with interior lights getting damaged much more easily than I expected, plus it probably looks better this way :)
I think the beast for the miner.
it reminds me of a gray wolf spider when looking at it from the upper front.
It does have a fair bit of that shape :)
Maybe since you have the flea, you could name this the termite?
That's a good option, thanks :)
I've got a few I like and I'll think about it while I'm working out the colouring as I think that will have a big impact on what I feel fits the ship best
I would have called it the Goose, not quite a swan but getting closer. :p
I feel like I went sideways on this one, hence the name based off a type of turkey :P
(also another vehicle eventually gets the Goose name) :)
@@Splitsie hehe, it's still a very fun design! I like the suspenders- i would have been tempted to wrap them all the way around, but it probably would have ended up looking like an antique luggage at some point.
Splitsie These mods might help with making aesthitic ships. They do not change any of the the thrusters ratings, just add a version with armor clad for looks.
Armored Atmospheric engines: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=601008185
Armored hydrogen Engines: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=614733782
Armored Ion Engines: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761340487
Thanks for the links. I have used some of those mods before, though for the small ships in this series I'm going to try to keep them as vanilla as possible so that people can use them no matter what setup they're playing in :)
I approve of the name.
Thanks :)
Seems a bit heavy for its size but it does have a very nice industrial look to it.
I was suprised by its weight too - I think it might be the multiple batteries and all those thrusters. Still even with it's dry weight being quite high it can carry a solid load of ore :)
Nice Ore Brute, or Weevil. Thoughts about using tires in or as armour for a miner? Do they work better for bouncing from low impact hits? What about composite armors made of light armor ribbed with non deforming blocks to direct the deformation dynamics away from critical flights systems? (Yes I realize That's a larger question than for just a miner) ;)
I stuck with light armor for the miner because of its weight. I wanted to maximise the ore carrying capacity so I didn't want to use stronger but heavier blocks. I might well regret that when I bump it, but the light armor is still very effective vs voxels as I've seen when testing so hopefully it'll be ok :P
Splitsie I think a low-speed impact test, of light armor vs wheels: strength vs weight, may be needed ;)
That's exactly what I did at the start of my tests and everything survived, in fact the light armor had the highest survivability outside of the wheels with suspension. The added weight of blocks like heavy armor and blast doors increases the force of impact enough to overcome the extra damage resistance sadly :/
Splitsie I recall. What I didn't recall was tires, side on to point of impact and without suspension, acting as bumpers. You're on the ball, thanks for the dialogue. :)
Given the "shoulder pads" on your new miner, I would start looking to American Football for you name. It kind of suggests a linebacker or similar.
It does have a bit of the armored shoulder pad look, that's what made me think of those crazy shoulder pads women in the 80s seemed so fond of :P
Given all the power that it needs and the weight why not just use 1 reactor vs 4 batteries?
Batteries have a higher peak power output, to run a ship like the butterball off reactors you'd need 10s of them to output enough power per second for the thrusters. Plus I'm doing all the planetary stuff without uranium :)
my second day playing and i built this baby...its so epic watching 2nd video now to set up controls :D
Awesome, I'm glad you're enjoying building alongside it - when I first did this I hoped that at least a few people would do things that way :)
@@Splitsie I have had one issue though...when I park it on a connector I switch batteries to charge and they show charging..but when I release lock of connector to fly away the ship falls down flips over and batteries are completely flat? Has happened 3 times and getting this size ship back straight is no easy feat...so dismantled untill I find out what's going on why it just does and falls over open release from lock on connector?
When batteries are set to charge they won't discharge any power, so that'll be what's causing it to fall when you unlock. If there isn't much charge going to the batteries while you're docked then you may need to increase the amount of power production
@@Splitsie ahaa so thats what the issue is ...going to rebuild and start again :D
@@Splitsie batt issue sorted running sweet...modified it a little now I get 2 hours out of it with mining easily.
All of my miners suck... Also what's with the Zebra thing in the start? And one last thing, do you ever think of updating the intro or making a new one?
My time on TH-cam started with a friend with our channel th-cam.com/users/zebramonkeys and I made the intro for using on there but rarely had a video where it made sense to use it. When I started making my solo videos I figured it was a good way to tie the two together so I've stuck with it. I'm happy with it as it's short and labels the videos easily :)
Oh ok
I think it's time to add some color to your base. I'm thinking a mix of yellow and green. Sprite Base!
Lol! I'm tempted to do that simply because I know a few people will find such a bright colour scheme distracting :P
"its because your brain has a preferred side of the ship even if it is perfectly symmetrical, your subconscious mind helps you store certain aspects of what you saw on the preferred side more than on the non preferred or desired side... that's why its hard to remember what you did on the other side when trying to maintain equilibrium but having to rotate the parts to face outwards on both sides... a trick of the mind is that you did remember how it was... but it has been inverted now :)))
fix to this mind trick... before going to build on the other side...think backwards first :))
or use a projector xD
I really wish we could have the ability to build onto a projection so you could use creative mode tools like symmetry mode in a survival game, would make stuff like this much easier to do :)
Most private millatary units have a color skem dir their vehicels that are bright for the vehickes thay keep in thwir home cou trys
I think it would look great with I-beams for armor instead of light armor blocks, in some places ...
Yeah, if we'd had them back then I almost certainly would have used some - was about 2 years to early for them though :P
those small ejectors can only drop about 500 stone/tick/ejector, bit of a pain imo
It'd be nice if they could dump those small stones just a little bit quicker, but I guess it's also cool to have to engineer around the problem and build more ejectors so I'm on the fence :P
A connector can throw out quicker. Maybe add a second one hooked to the first one with just a sorter.
You should upgrade your miner with some scripts and use those little half lcds for power reading and cargo load. There also is a script made by the same guy who makes vector thrust 2 that has this coasting script that allows you to keep moving forward without turning off your thrusters. One last script which i love is a docking script that turns pff everything and sets batteries to recharge.
I'm planning on using Isy's battery script on one of the programmable blocks, but I'll have to take a look at that coasting script could be very handy :)
“So lets go in and turn those off so we don’t use power with them”
He says, turning off the ore detector and antenna, but not the almost blinding lights that probably use much more?
7:28-9 ish
The lights use much less power than those two, but I'm also notorious for forgetting to turn off lights, so there's that too :P
You didnt set all the backwards thrusters to be in the group, becouse youre actively loosing speed when drifting
I think I might have, as I'll lose speed if I'm tilted upwards a little bit - because I like recording without the crosshair getting things level is usually quite a rough science :P
Whats up with the fps Drops on some points in the video :O
I'm not sure, I've been experiencing some intermittent drops like that recently and can't seem to indentify the source, hopefully I'll have a chance soon to look through a few possibilities. That or do the upgrade I've been planning for a while ;)
you should add the retractable landing gear mod
You should create a return autopilot script that you activate when you’re finished drilling. :)
It's very tempting but I'm not sure I trust the autopilot to fly my fully loaded mining ship...
Maybe I'll give it a shot and let you know how I go ;)
I'd assume it will be more power efficient as I don't think autopilot will use forward and left/right thrusters at the same time.
Looking at the thruster plume it always seems like they use them simultaneously, so I've always assumed - though never tested - the autopilot was less efficient
Good video
Thanks :)
Splitsie please help me dude, I made this ship by hand watching the video and your containers are like 10k L of volume and mine are only 3.3k. I'm using the same ones too, medium ones. Also when I dock to my base for some reason only some of the ore's i've gathered transfers on it's own to the bases cargo container. I can transfer the rest manually via the menus but I would like for it to all transfer on it's own.
It's how the game settings were back then, you couldn't separate engineer inventory from grid inventory multiplier so most people played on x3 which tripled the storage space. These days I only use x3 for the engineer but realistic for the grids which gives me what you're seeing :)
To transfer things automatically you need to use sorters or a script to do the sorting for you
@@Splitsie ooooooooooooooo sorters! thanks so much dude, really appreciate the reply and the vids, this game has a steep learning curve but these vids help so much.
as commented in Part 1 your projection is backwards, because your Projector is backwards, ever since your tutorial you think the part with the single vertical is the front, but it is not.
Chupacabra2k10 up
Yeah I've had no luck with the recommended placement. Grid pivot - which is (somewhat randomly) determined when placing the first block of a grid - also plays a role, I think. So I've gotten into the habit of enabling Show Grid Pivot when starting a new grid. A grid's pivot can be fixed later with a workaround:
steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/626329186868860061/
forum.keenswh.com/threads/hotkey-to-reset-pivot-point.7357651/
It'd be nice if SE provided some way to do this without pasting or merging.
Just load up the projection and spend a couple of minutes aligning it. I've pretty much given up waiting for keen to make it easy to see what way the blocks are facing, just consider yourself lucky that you can see which way LCDs are facing now.
Old vid, but how about making it so the autopilot can dock it for you.
"Chewie" could be a name for the new miner.
Or Chomper, since every attempt I've ever made of imitating chewie has ended very poorly :P
Up to you ;) Maybe Chewie for a grinder vessel then :)
That sounds like a good idea, I'll see if Capac can do a chewie impression and add a sound block to the blueprint before I publish it to the workshop ;)
You could always add four small batteries.
Small batteries were added at least 2 years after this was recorded :P (assuming you're talking about the little small grid ones)
I would call this The Goose!
It doesn't get that name, but there is a vehicle that eventually does :)
Splitsie thanks for the awesome videos I bought the game because of your channel!
Hope you get as much fun from it as I have :)
It kind of looks like a crab to me. Maybe that could be a name? I vote Crab-man (like if you get the reference)
Maybe I should call it Earl, if that's the crab-man you're talking about ;)
How about the bee? Or bever?
or Beever?
Maybe you should turn the ugly duckling into a fighter
I don't know if I'd be able to handle losing her :P
I do have an idea for it though, with some minor upgrades it'll be capable of setting up a defensive perimeter idea that I've had ;)
I have tested and made your ship it does not work properly imine the power dies of very quickly and the forward thrust is not powerful enough and my voice put some downwards Frost so you can get up if the ship flips that's all
I always build atmospheric mining ships to remain horizontal, if you're flipping or relying on the reverse thrusters you're tilting it too far. The reason I do that is efficiency, the ore deposits are horizontal veins so a vertical miner wastes a lot of time getting through all the rock on top and the extra weight of the extra thrusters means you can't carry as much ore.
As to your power problems, batteries only start with 25% charge, you will need to connect this to a base or other grid in order to get it fully charged at which point it should be capable of making a few trips to a mine that's up to 8km away based on my experience in the series.
In my tutorial series that I restarted recently, I talked through the approach to building an atmospheric mining ship and how to use the artificial horizon to help you keep yourself level to avoid crashing so often th-cam.com/video/SrDI1_MAokE/w-d-xo.html