Thanks for sharing the comparison. Veo sells a tilt-able mount so that the camera can be tilted down like the Hudl, to see the near sideline and less of the horizon or low lights for night games. Mine is a Manfrotto MH490-BH. The current one from Veo is Veo branded, but may be Manfrotto as well. If you use TH-cam for Veo live streaming, you can schedule the live streams and they will appear on your channel or you can share the links before the games. To do this, you need to schedule a stream in TH-cam, create a custom stream key, and set Veo live settings to stream to TH-cam and request a stream key each time you go live. Go live and paste the custom stream key in the camera app at the scheduled time. This also allows separate live streams from different cameras in the same clubhouse.
Thanks for the tips! Yes, I have livestreamed to TH-cam with Veo but I haven't scheduled it before, thats a good point. The downside for me is that when we're racing to get out of the hotel by 6 am to get to the field and park/setup the camera it's not convenient to create a custom stream key and put it into the app to start the stream. Although it is more user friendly now that you set put a clock and scoreboard on the YT stream. When you do it, are you creating the key in the studio app or just logged into yt studio in the browser on your phone?
I use a Manfrotto MHXPRO-BHQ2 ball head in between the tripod and the veo camera so i can tilt the camera 4-7 degrees forward. Allows me to place the tripod much closer to the field without losing the near touch line and also helps with horizon issue.
Good point James! I've used this ball head tilt, soccerstripes.com/product/veo-camera-tripod-tilt-ballhead-mount/ , but it was a bit of a pain threading it on every game. I got an adapter so I could use it with a quick release, th-cam.com/video/3qzXUABwjBk/w-d-xo.html It looks like the hudl comes with a fixed angled mount so you don't have to worry about angling the ball head each time.
Just so you know, hudl has multiple views when you setup the recording. They have a widescreen view as well. It has to be setup by the person starting the recording.
Thanks, good to know. That would make a difference with the ball going out of frame. So you can toggle back and forth between the views as you're watching?
How much delay does the HUDL have for livestreams. The VEO has about 90s, so they give their AI a lot of data to work with. So they might not be “anticipating” anything, they literally already have the video.
I'm not sure what the delay is on the hudl. We had family at the game and based on their text updates the stream seemed to have somewhat of a delay but I'm not sure what it usually is. I'm fine with a delay if it would mean the game wouldn't lag during the match
In the video I mentioned that this is just 3 games from one event. It was just my experience with one weekend so I don't know overall what the data looks like. My guess is a faster network would eliminate the lag, it was just really frustrating to watch. That's why I was wondering about delaying the livestream by a period of time to buffer and smooth out those lags
Thanks for sharing the comparison.
Veo sells a tilt-able mount so that the camera can be tilted down like the Hudl, to see the near sideline and less of the horizon or low lights for night games. Mine is a Manfrotto MH490-BH. The current one from Veo is Veo branded, but may be Manfrotto as well.
If you use TH-cam for Veo live streaming, you can schedule the live streams and they will appear on your channel or you can share the links before the games. To do this, you need to schedule a stream in TH-cam, create a custom stream key, and set Veo live settings to stream to TH-cam and request a stream key each time you go live. Go live and paste the custom stream key in the camera app at the scheduled time. This also allows separate live streams from different cameras in the same clubhouse.
Thanks for the tips! Yes, I have livestreamed to TH-cam with Veo but I haven't scheduled it before, thats a good point.
The downside for me is that when we're racing to get out of the hotel by 6 am to get to the field and park/setup the camera it's not convenient to create a custom stream key and put it into the app to start the stream.
Although it is more user friendly now that you set put a clock and scoreboard on the YT stream.
When you do it, are you creating the key in the studio app or just logged into yt studio in the browser on your phone?
I use a Manfrotto MHXPRO-BHQ2 ball head in between the tripod and the veo camera so i can tilt the camera 4-7 degrees forward. Allows me to place the tripod much closer to the field without losing the near touch line and also helps with horizon issue.
Good point James! I've used this ball head tilt, soccerstripes.com/product/veo-camera-tripod-tilt-ballhead-mount/ , but it was a bit of a pain threading it on every game. I got an adapter so I could use it with a quick release, th-cam.com/video/3qzXUABwjBk/w-d-xo.html It looks like the hudl comes with a fixed angled mount so you don't have to worry about angling the ball head each time.
Just so you know, hudl has multiple views when you setup the recording. They have a widescreen view as well. It has to be setup by the person starting the recording.
Thanks, good to know. That would make a difference with the ball going out of frame. So you can toggle back and forth between the views as you're watching?
How much delay does the HUDL have for livestreams. The VEO has about 90s, so they give their AI a lot of data to work with. So they might not be “anticipating” anything, they literally already have the video.
I'm not sure what the delay is on the hudl. We had family at the game and based on their text updates the stream seemed to have somewhat of a delay but I'm not sure what it usually is. I'm fine with a delay if it would mean the game wouldn't lag during the match
Please show this data to Hudl
In the video I mentioned that this is just 3 games from one event. It was just my experience with one weekend so I don't know overall what the data looks like. My guess is a faster network would eliminate the lag, it was just really frustrating to watch. That's why I was wondering about delaying the livestream by a period of time to buffer and smooth out those lags