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Ben Edwards
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Hudl vs Veo Camera Livestream
With a Hudl livestream from South Carolina and a Veo camera livestream from California I had two different streams to compare last weekend.
My daughter and I were at a GA event and I livestreamed the games with my Veo. My son's team was at an ECNL event which was being streamed by the Hudl Focus. As I was watching both games I noticed a few things about each camera so thought I'd share my experience.
As I mention in the video, my experience with Hudl is limited so if I missed some of the details let me know. I had an issue with buffering with the Hudl Focus and wished it had a scoreboard/clock on the livestream.
One thing I appreciated about the Hudl was the game links were published ahead of time so fans knew where to go before the game started. The rate of $15 for 3 games was pretty reasonable considering the cost and effort of owning and transporting my own camera to the GA event. Finding the games wasn't simple but I show in the video how I tracked down our games.
There seems to be a difference in how tight the two cameras livestream. The Hudl seemed to be tighter on the action, which was nice until the ball moved down/across the field rapidly and then it went out of frame. The Veo feed was more zoomed out but the video quality seemed higher and it would anticipate ball movement so it rarely went out of frame.
For more on recording sports check us out on EasySportsVideo.com/start
My daughter and I were at a GA event and I livestreamed the games with my Veo. My son's team was at an ECNL event which was being streamed by the Hudl Focus. As I was watching both games I noticed a few things about each camera so thought I'd share my experience.
As I mention in the video, my experience with Hudl is limited so if I missed some of the details let me know. I had an issue with buffering with the Hudl Focus and wished it had a scoreboard/clock on the livestream.
One thing I appreciated about the Hudl was the game links were published ahead of time so fans knew where to go before the game started. The rate of $15 for 3 games was pretty reasonable considering the cost and effort of owning and transporting my own camera to the GA event. Finding the games wasn't simple but I show in the video how I tracked down our games.
There seems to be a difference in how tight the two cameras livestream. The Hudl seemed to be tighter on the action, which was nice until the ball moved down/across the field rapidly and then it went out of frame. The Veo feed was more zoomed out but the video quality seemed higher and it would anticipate ball movement so it rarely went out of frame.
For more on recording sports check us out on EasySportsVideo.com/start
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Thanks for sharing the comparison. Veo sells a tilt-able mount so that the camera can be tilted down like the Hudl, to see the near sideline and less of the horizon or low lights for night games. Mine is a Manfrotto MH490-BH. The current one from Veo is Veo branded, but may be Manfrotto as well. If you use TH-cam for Veo live streaming, you can schedule the live streams and they will appear on your channel or you can share the links before the games. To do this, you need to schedule a stream in TH-cam, create a custom stream key, and set Veo live settings to stream to TH-cam and request a stream key each time you go live. Go live and paste the custom stream key in the camera app at the scheduled time. This also allows separate live streams from different cameras in the same clubhouse.
Thanks for the tips! Yes, I have livestreamed to TH-cam with Veo but I haven't scheduled it before, thats a good point. The downside for me is that when we're racing to get out of the hotel by 6 am to get to the field and park/setup the camera it's not convenient to create a custom stream key and put it into the app to start the stream. Although it is more user friendly now that you set put a clock and scoreboard on the YT stream. When you do it, are you creating the key in the studio app or just logged into yt studio in the browser on your phone?
How much delay does the HUDL have for livestreams. The VEO has about 90s, so they give their AI a lot of data to work with. So they might not be “anticipating” anything, they literally already have the video.
I'm not sure what the delay is on the hudl. We had family at the game and based on their text updates the stream seemed to have somewhat of a delay but I'm not sure what it usually is. I'm fine with a delay if it would mean the game wouldn't lag during the match
A lot of crybabies about the music in the comments 😂
I use a Manfrotto MHXPRO-BHQ2 ball head in between the tripod and the veo camera so i can tilt the camera 4-7 degrees forward. Allows me to place the tripod much closer to the field without losing the near touch line and also helps with horizon issue.
Good point James! I've used this ball head tilt, soccerstripes.com/product/veo-camera-tripod-tilt-ballhead-mount/ , but it was a bit of a pain threading it on every game. I got an adapter so I could use it with a quick release, th-cam.com/video/3qzXUABwjBk/w-d-xo.html It looks like the hudl comes with a fixed angled mount so you don't have to worry about angling the ball head each time.
Please show this data to Hudl
In the video I mentioned that this is just 3 games from one event. It was just my experience with one weekend so I don't know overall what the data looks like. My guess is a faster network would eliminate the lag, it was just really frustrating to watch. That's why I was wondering about delaying the livestream by a period of time to buffer and smooth out those lags
Just so you know, hudl has multiple views when you setup the recording. They have a widescreen view as well. It has to be setup by the person starting the recording.
Thanks, good to know. That would make a difference with the ball going out of frame. So you can toggle back and forth between the views as you're watching?
It's just a blurry wide shot that swings back and forth..could just hire some kid to swing a phone back and forth for $1000 a season.. This is nothing like the Veo people lead us to believe it can do, and having to subscribe is silly.
Thank you, I want a camera to record football matches but the prices are expensive! What is the cheapest type that will do the job?
If you have an iPhone the xbot go chameleon is probably the cheapest option. Check out this list - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/
Thanks a lot for your input which helps a lot. I'm a "tired" VEO user, and all these options will definitely do much better.
Sure, here's a look at the soccer cameras we've used or have ordered to test - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/
I find the American football markings so off putting. Maybe I'm just not used to it. Back on topic, what would you say the difference is in video quality between the VEO 2 (I own) and the VEO 3?
Yes, it's different. the high schools have to share the fields between american football and "football" so we get used to it. The main things I've noticed with the veo 3 in terms of video are that it's less pixellated when you zoom, the video stabilization is a lot better in the 3, the HDR helps with night games under the lights, the video is clearer when livestreaming (maybe more happens on the camera)
@EasySportsVideo Thanks for that, that's great
Thanks so much for the videos. I’m new to your channel and you have a new subscriber here! I’m currently waiting for my first video from yesterday to upload and I would like for my coaches to watch the video with me. Is there a way I can watch the videos on my TV? I also have a handheld projector that I can hook up to my laptop and display anything I want to on a wall in my house. Is that what I need to do?If so, that tells me I would need to wait for it to download so it pops up on my laptop… Any help would be much appreciated.
Sure thing, if you open the Veo app and go to Library you can see the recordings. When you open one there is a cast icon in the top left. If you tap that you can cast to a roku or smart tv. You can also do screen mirroring to your TV, or use a google chromecast. Those are all iOS options, I haven't tried it on Android.
Tha ka for the Review. I was wondering if the quality would better if you use it with the sun in the back?
Recording into the sun definitely alters the contrast of the video. It's always better to have the sun behind the camera but depending on the field setup that's not always possible unfortunately. I have experimented with a sun shade and it made a difference but it's one more thing to setup and I'm usually rushing from field to field so haven't used it a lot.
30fps for a sport camera is ridiculous but VEO's decision to offer exclusively a subscription model is a deal breaker.
I’ve watched like 4 of your videos with no conclusion on which one is your favorite or why. Also went to your website but you need to fill out an inquiry You have great video footage, enough info, you have a lot of sports parents (which is an big audience)that want this info it could easily be the focus of your channel and could generate $$$ Just my thoughts just put your conclusions on your videos
Thanks, I've thought about that a lot. The more I use and test the cameras the more I realize that the best fit for a family or team really depends on how they're going to use it and a list of other factors. I'm working on making that list easy to use so people can figure out what's best for their specific situation. In other words, in many situations the answer to the best camera is, "it depends". If you want to email me more about your team I can tell you what I think, ben@easysportsvideo.com
The video you show was that veo cámara or GoPro.. where can I get this equipment
Hi, there are a few parts to the system. One is the set of GoPro cameras, the other is the mount containing batteries, and the last is the plan. You can see more about it here - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/#seeusplay-camera-review
can you load a full 90min game to youtube ?
Hi Stu, here's a high school game - th-cam.com/video/0IOil6yVnBU/w-d-xo.html
What’s up with the stupid music?
Sorry, didn't realize it was so loud until after publishing, here is a better version th-cam.com/video/nFIVC9WEhPY/w-d-xo.html
Dejen de engañar a la gente, un camarógrafo te dará muchos mejores planos y con detalles de las jugadas, esa cosa que venden ustedes es solo para planos amplios, la intención de los que venden esa cosa es solo ganar plata y el resultado final es mediocre, para una buena grabación de un partido necesitas camarógrafos que te den diferentes tipos de planos NO SOLO UN PLANO AMPLIO Y robótico jajaja.
Gracias por tus comentarios
Horrible...no se aprecian las jugadas ni los detalles,esa cámara es un desastre, pagenle a un camarógrafo para que te buenos planos.
Gracias por tus comentarios
Hello ben can you send here the setting of the camera ?
Hi, i'm not sure which settings you need? You can email me, ben@easysportsvideo.com
All 3 cameras don’t really do a great job to enhance the play by play capture of an individual player. If you look closely at all three you wouldn’t be able to tell the players you’re looking at. Can’t clearly see their faces and numbers. Maybe it’s a zooming issue with the camera. Also, why aren’t there automated commentary built in the camera given the huge price tag and ongoing subscription. All 3 cameras left more to be desired.
All 3 cameras don’t really do a great job to enhance the play by play capture of an individual player. If you look closely at all three you wouldn’t be able to tell the players you’re looking at. Can’t clearly see their faces and numbers. Maybe it’s a zooming issue with the camera. Also, why aren’t there automated commentary built in the camera given the huge price tag and ongoing subscription. All 3 cameras left more to be desired.
So this camera moves on its own and follows you?
the camera doesn't physically move. it records the game and uses software to pan and zoom
Hate the background music. But enjoyed your presentation
If you are and considering the XBotGo Chameleon, DO NOT BUY IT. I paid $479 and purchased it with the 13' tripod to record soccer. It stopped working within less than 30 days. Their customer support team has been EXTREMELY unhelpful. Their products are defective. Please beware before spending your hard-earned money on such a product.
Buenas este video en español por favor
I was waiting for a review of the 3 system 😞. Which one is the best?
It depends on what you're using the footage for, your budget, how many people are using the video, and other factors. I wrote up more detail on those cameras and others here- soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/
What version is this? 5g veo3 or the other? My sim port in the back has a tab. This one doesn’t
this is the 5g version but it was an early one right when it was released. Could be they have updated since then.
You have a good concept here but the music is so loud you can 't hear your voice very well. I can not watch it, it is so annoying. You should really think about not having background music while you are talking
Yes, I really do apologize. I made another version you can hear better - th-cam.com/video/nFIVC9WEhPY/w-d-xo.html
Have you already tested Spiideo?
No, I'd like to though. I you know how I can try it out let me know. I included a section on it here but only based on my research - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/
Hello Ben, Would you recommend this camera for a small club team to start off, or would you recommend the 2 gopro cameras? I'm looking for a cameras with no subscription.
The one with 2 go pros (SeeUsPlay) does have a subscription. there's another one called ActionStitch that doesn't require a plan but it is more manual. Camera-Pan is coming out with a new version so we'll see how it looks. I'm guessing it will make some of it more user friendly for the less technical. I'll update the Camera-Pan section here once I learn more - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/#camera-pan-camera-review
Do Pixellot and Trace really have such a bad image quality ?
That video is about a year old but I think the version of Trace is still the same. I believe Pixellot has/is rolling out a newer version but i hven't tested it.
Hello Ben, what system quality-price do you recommend to record the games, i saw you do a review for the xbotgo but it's not too different for a gimbal like dji osmo or pivo
Kind of depends What age group are you recording? is it just one player or the whole team? how will you use the footage? do you need to livestream?
Hello Ben. Any idea if I can use my iPhone as a Hotspot? I have ATT unlimited data 5G. Or is it better to use a Hotspot device like the one in your video? Cheers
I wouldn't recommend using your iPhone. I've heard from some people who had success but I have not. Of course you can try it and see how it goes b/c it would be cheaper than getting a separate hotspot. But I use a hotspot for all our streaming.
Hi Ben, are you affiliated with any of the cameras?
Hi, I have relationships with all of the camera companies. Unfortunately I couldn't get any of them to give me a camera to try so I had to buy them all myself. I go into a lot more detail here - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/
The Veo was quite literally head and shoulders above the rest. The height difference make a big impact. The distance creates a wider shot which is better for coaches. Also, it zooms into the other side of the field, which allowed us to see the play.
Veo is insanely clear over the rest
Hello, I live in South Korea. I bought a VEO camera 8 months ago and am using it well. I happened to visit your TH-cam channel. This video is like a highlight, but the screen composition is different from what I've seen. There is a scoreboard in the middle of the video. When you download it from the Veo site, only the bottom right VEO mark exists. Did you edit it separately?
Yes, I did it using two things. One was a new feature in the Veo camera app, this video shows you how - th-cam.com/video/LsFL1Domk8w/w-d-xo.html. then I added the photo at the front and text at the end with CapCut, this show you how - th-cam.com/video/gIBPWHlY4v4/w-d-xo.html
Great how-to-setup video! What are the angles and distance between cameras? I'd like to know if, due to the angles of the cameras attached to the base, it works on a specified height.
Could you please post some actual 4k video from the sidelines so we can see what this camera produces? Even their own website doesn't provide video examples. Is the output high enough that you could crop in post to make highlight reels of a player across the field and still be able to know what you're seeing? Video of the output quality is equally important to the physical setup, if not more. I have REOlink cameras and I know they are 4k, but without any optical zoom and 20fps max recording, I'm skeptical of the quality at a distance for sporting events.
Hi i also have this camera (reolink dou 3 poe) the video is good but i think it can be better after corp i think is beacuse the tripod little rocked ,I will tie it with a rope. Im looking for software to make auto highlighes beacuse i dont have time to do it my self and its not easy i think.
When I received my camera, I didn’t get the tripod or umbrella that was part of the package…😢
Any idea in how to get it out of reboot mode? I’ve held the power button for the suggested 15 seconds at least 10 times throughout the day and nothing. There is no customer support number to call. Only option is to open a ticket and wait…..
you probably tried for longer than 15 seconds too? I just reset one and held it in longer than that
Do you hear a loud buzzing noise when you turn on game sound? Buzzing noise while charging?
No zoom? Disappointing
Mines kept following the other team. Kept saying my son was the opposing #4. How do I fix that.
Hello Ben. Did you test de xbotgo gimbal or chamaleon? Regards.
Yes, I dont have a good video on it yet but there's a section here - soccerstripes.com/best-soccer-cameras-to-record-your-game/#xbot-chamelon-camera-review
Do you have to use phone
Yes, you need the phone to record. I've only used iPhone but it can also work with Android I believe
Please upload some actual footage
I have used this camera myself. it is a Reolink Duo 2 or 3. it gives you 180 degree video. I have then used Once Autocam to process the video. So I am intrigued about the processing unit.
Hi i have also this camera (reolink dou 3 poe)can you send me the setting you record? Another thing i see in that video the camere is 90 degres is that good or better for lower?
I used a Veocam 1 for the first time. I upload with Ethernet to router, it said upload complete but when I went to the site to access the recording nothing was there and when I went back to the hub to check on the upload status it disappeared. Did I lost my 1hr13min recording of my travel boys team?☹️ I cant find it anywhere at all. I’m so upset.
For how long can it record ?