If you have higher refinement of the 4 star weapons that you are currently using for your sub dps and you don’t have to sacrifice their damage for energy regen echos, I suggest you keep them until you get higher refinements of the event weapons. Also keep in mind that you have to use your liberation before skill to fully utilise the buff that the event weapons provide.
@@itssenpai626Thanks, now I understand. Makes sense. Wow, it gets way too complex for me, always trying to think about which skill or liberation you should use because of passives from weapons AND characters.. But I understand why some people are so good at combat in games like this, BECAUSE they always have in mind which passives are active right now and which buffs are being activated when you do this or that (including outro skills, echo effects, weapon passives and all that)
Commando of Conviction was so disproportianally stronger then 4 star weapons of other weapon types, good thing Kuro added these weapons on that same level of power across every weapon type now :D
I chose the gauntlet, cause I don't have the standard gauntlet for my xinagli yao and I didn't pulled for his signature, he is doing good! I even completely cleared the overdrive tower with him!
The damage difference between conviction and collapse is insignificant. Between 546-537, that's less than a 0.01% difference in attack, let alone final damage. Furthermore, If syntonizes is taken into consideration when comparing conviction vs collapse, it'll make conviction better. Most people are probably S2 or S3 by now if they started in month 1. I don't think collapse is better in such instances. If, however, the extra energy makes it worth it for your rotation, then definitely, it's better. But if not, then go with a higher syntonize conviction.
Taoqi's and Yuanwu's shield shud have some superarmor. Or I dunno, give it like extra damage reduction if they're gonna be stingy with superarmor effects like the Geochalone's Echo effect
I got a copy of Endless Collapse while rolling for Shorekeeper's sig. So I might use the box for an offensive rectifier instead. Thanks for reviewing em mate. I was actually curious about the new purple-grade weapons as well
Thanks for the breakdown. Although when I tested it myself on my lvl 70 Sanhua, with and without echoes, and only triggering the passives of both lvl 80 R1 swords, CoC gave me marginally more attack than EC.
@@jamesnieves1216 Endless collapse have higher damage potential that commando of conviction and here’s why. Your sanhua will receive a lot of attack percentage buffs from many sources like rejuvenating glow, sequences etc. as the attack percentages pile up, endless collapse will give you more attack that commando of conviction because of the high base attack even when its at R1 and commando of conviction is at R5. A high base attack weapon always wins
@@itssenpai626 I tested it within a team setting with her burst, and only triggering Rejuv set and SK/Verina's outro buff. CoC still gave me a slightly higher damage than EC with SK and the other way around with Verina which gave me a higher damage with EC than CoC. I guess it should be clear that it will depend on which support char and wielder you have on the team and not just single a definitive answer.
@@jamesnieves1216 Exactly. EC wins when you have many sources of attack percentage buffs because they always affect your base attack. So EC will give you more attack overall because of its high base attack. I suggest you test it this way instead. Try to stack as much buffs as possible with each weapon and after the buffing is complete, check your total attack stat for each weapon and let me know your feedback later.
@@itssenpai626 I already have and the results are the same for the total ATK stat. CoC with SK and EC with Verina with all buffs and weapon passives activated.
Nope, still nope, they are expensive to raise and likely become obsolete sooner or later. If they are cheaper to max, I might consider it. Now, is just not worth it. And only Yang Yang and Zhezhi can actually benefit from the weapon. Sanhua does not really need the weapon, she never have trouble maxing her ult.
Hard thing to switch is that 2 of my 4star swords are rank 3 and one rank 5 the commando of conviction and lunar cutter dups and SWORD that i craft for danjin is great on her for extra HP and damage for her heavy
@@blackblaze4830 if you can use your liberation without sacrificing damage for energy regen echos, stick to those weapons since you have high refinement
I have two Emeralds of genesises exactly because of this, so this weapon box is gonna be keeping all my other weapon boxes company, the only one I’ve used so far is the 5* one. I don’t have anyone who needs a better weapon, a whole third of my roster is sharing my Variation, so I‘d rather wait until I don’t have a good option for someone.
But doesn't the 30% from Commando also apply on character's Base ATK? For Danjin's case the 30% from CoC is wasted due to her particular statline (she has a low base ATK value) , but EC's lower ATK% does become a sensible loss when your Base ATK values go higher, no?
Precisely. That’s why 5 star weapons are always superior to 4 star weapons. The higher the base attack, the higher you total atk stat and the better your damage
Using commando of conviction because it's R5. Honestly don't know what to get cus I don't have a 5 star support character and the supports I built have better options. 🤷♀️
Isn't the Commando Of Conviction better(at least at R5) due to much larger ATK% on the weapon ability on intro? Even if you run quickswap comps it's still applies since it doesn't disappear.
@@rexerousplayz237 yes verina’s healing scales off total attack but not just base attack. Also a little bit of correction. You get base attack from character levelling and weapons
@@rexerousplayz237 yes verina’s healing scales off total attack but not just base attack. Also a little bit of correction. You get base attack from character levelling and weapons. For verina’s weapon, give her the variation or the rectifier of the voyager
i m thinking of giving it to xiang liao since I m not sure what standard weapon to chase for i m interested in Chun which is most likely to be a gun user so i d might build pity towards standard gun in case I dont have enough astrites for her + weapon
I’m f2p, didn’t pull yet cause I’m not sure. Having build baizi, Verina and Shorekeeper and they all sharing variation lvl.80. I have Jinshi and Xiangli Yaos signature, so their also fine. I didn’t maxed out Rover yet but I’ve build Sanhua, Mortefi, Jianxin as Sub dps. Jianxin using Marcato, but I’m making sure she gets Abyss Surges bc she deserves it. Mortefi got that 5 star gun weapon. But Sanhua and Rover are sharing Emerald Genesis. And I’m clueless whom I get to build next 🫠🫠 I’ve Chixia, YangYang and Yuanwu at S6 but I’m not touching them yet. Can someone suggest me some steps? Or should I just wait for next updates? Edit: I do have encore, but I dislike her playing style. Also same with Danjin (S6), I’m not a risk taker so I don’t prefer her fighting style. Kinda afraid of her to use honestly
@@tradingcomparisons6591 When I first started I wanted the five star catalyst for Verina and pulled for it on standard weapon and got it. Later when Xiangli Lio came out I used my chest to get the gauntlets. Now I am sad as I try to build 4 star supports without the sword:(
@@tradingcomparisons6591 It's mortefis bis and probably as valuable as the sword if not more if you have a mortefi jiyan build. You can also still get the sword from the standard banner
Merg them theres a bunch of swords to use and great combo for the 4star characters 3 is already usefull for them comando of conviction/Sword#18/overture overture give 51% energy regen good for all 4 stars sword#18 for danjins heavy gives extra hp and damage and commando for sanhua her intro combos well with it
I don't get it. Are the BP weapons bad? I never see someone talking about them My Danjin is using the BP weapon, this one is better for her? Im using her as Sub-DPS for Havoc Rover
all 4* weapons are temporary until you get any 5*. but R5 BP weapon can be on par (or slightly better) with standard 5* (on specific chars like Li Yao). u decide is it worth $50 ($15 when substract all benefits value)
They are decent, mostly the ones that have crit rate. The 5* weapons are still better than any other 4* weap, but the BP ones do their job really well.
@@robertdotuan500 R5 commando of conviction will give you more damage but if you can’t maintain your liberation every rotation, I suggest you go for the event weapon as
If you have higher refinement of the 4 star weapons that you are currently using for your sub dps and you don’t have to sacrifice their damage for energy regen echos, I suggest you keep them until you get higher refinements of the event weapons. Also keep in mind that you have to use your liberation before skill to fully utilise the buff that the event weapons provide.
Why do you have to do the liberation first? I don't see that in the weapon description?
@@BriddahOnFire so that when you use your skill after liberation, you’ll get the 6 energy the passive provides
@@itssenpai626Thanks, now I understand. Makes sense. Wow, it gets way too complex for me, always trying to think about which skill or liberation you should use because of passives from weapons AND characters.. But I understand why some people are so good at combat in games like this, BECAUSE they always have in mind which passives are active right now and which buffs are being activated when you do this or that (including outro skills, echo effects, weapon passives and all that)
@@BriddahOnFire Don’t hesitate to ask anything about the game. It’s why my channel exists👍🏽
@@itssenpai626 Thanks a lot, that's good to hear! 🙂
Commando of Conviction was so disproportianally stronger then 4 star weapons of other weapon types, good thing Kuro added these weapons on that same level of power across every weapon type now :D
LMAOOO THE ENDING IS SO FUNNY thank u for this vid i will be grabbing the sword!!
I chose the gauntlet, cause I don't have the standard gauntlet for my xinagli yao and I didn't pulled for his signature, he is doing good! I even completely cleared the overdrive tower with him!
I used the 3star crit dmg gauntlet just as a stat stick.
Pretty nice, cuz i just need a crit rate main stat for his 4-cost echo
Which one looks cooler? That's the one i will pick
the gun looks super cool imo
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dpbroad blade also caught my eye but I don’t think I’ll need it tbh which is a lil sad
For me, it’s the broadblade
Broadblade
Changli`s sword is the best
The damage difference between conviction and collapse is insignificant. Between 546-537, that's less than a 0.01% difference in attack, let alone final damage. Furthermore, If syntonizes is taken into consideration when comparing conviction vs collapse, it'll make conviction better. Most people are probably S2 or S3 by now if they started in month 1. I don't think collapse is better in such instances.
If, however, the extra energy makes it worth it for your rotation, then definitely, it's better. But if not, then go with a higher syntonize conviction.
Taoqi's and Yuanwu's shield shud have some superarmor. Or I dunno, give it like extra damage reduction if they're gonna be stingy with superarmor effects like the Geochalone's Echo effect
I got a copy of Endless Collapse while rolling for Shorekeeper's sig. So I might use the box for an offensive rectifier instead.
Thanks for reviewing em mate. I was actually curious about the new purple-grade weapons as well
@@agatebeowulf643 I appreciate the feedback
Thanks for the breakdown. Although when I tested it myself on my lvl 70 Sanhua, with and without echoes, and only triggering the passives of both lvl 80 R1 swords, CoC gave me marginally more attack than EC.
@@jamesnieves1216 Endless collapse have higher damage potential that commando of conviction and here’s why. Your sanhua will receive a lot of attack percentage buffs from many sources like rejuvenating glow, sequences etc. as the attack percentages pile up, endless collapse will give you more attack that commando of conviction because of the high base attack even when its at R1 and commando of conviction is at R5. A high base attack weapon always wins
@@itssenpai626 I tested it within a team setting with her burst, and only triggering Rejuv set and SK/Verina's outro buff. CoC still gave me a slightly higher damage than EC with SK and the other way around with Verina which gave me a higher damage with EC than CoC. I guess it should be clear that it will depend on which support char and wielder you have on the team and not just single a definitive answer.
@@jamesnieves1216 Exactly. EC wins when you have many sources of attack percentage buffs because they always affect your base attack. So EC will give you more attack overall because of its high base attack. I suggest you test it this way instead. Try to stack as much buffs as possible with each weapon and after the buffing is complete, check your total attack stat for each weapon and let me know your feedback later.
@@itssenpai626 I already have and the results are the same for the total ATK stat. CoC with SK and EC with Verina with all buffs and weapon passives activated.
had to pull for shore's weapon banner and luckily i got to max the 4-star sword. and got 2 other new weapons.
3/5 hoping to get the rest soon 🥰
@@winkythepooh hope you max refine it soon
Endless colapse for my sanhua it matched het outfit looks verry good. I r5 my emerald of genesis for my rover.
I picked Rectifier instead of the Sword :/
Oh well.
Nope, still nope, they are expensive to raise and likely become obsolete sooner or later.
If they are cheaper to max, I might consider it.
Now, is just not worth it.
And only Yang Yang and Zhezhi can actually benefit from the weapon.
Sanhua does not really need the weapon, she never have trouble maxing her ult.
Hard thing to switch is that 2 of my 4star swords are rank 3 and one rank 5 the commando of conviction and lunar cutter dups and SWORD that i craft for danjin is great on her for extra HP and damage for her heavy
@@blackblaze4830 if you can use your liberation without sacrificing damage for energy regen echos, stick to those weapons since you have high refinement
The weapons are already available in the banners we will have them all eventually
I’ve already got a gun and two swords
I already have the gun
I have two Emeralds of genesises exactly because of this, so this weapon box is gonna be keeping all my other weapon boxes company, the only one I’ve used so far is the 5* one. I don’t have anyone who needs a better weapon, a whole third of my roster is sharing my Variation, so I‘d rather wait until I don’t have a good option for someone.
Before I watch the video, I want to say that I already got the one for XLY
@@jonmanilenio it’s a good choice if you don’t have 5 star options
i got the sword from gacha so i feel i must chose the sword again to rank it up
I took the sword for yanyang😊
Thanks fpr this useful content ❤
@@sergito_45 Thanks. That means a lot me.
But doesn't the 30% from Commando also apply on character's Base ATK?
For Danjin's case the 30% from CoC is wasted due to her particular statline (she has a low base ATK value) , but EC's lower ATK% does become a sensible loss when your Base ATK values go higher, no?
Precisely. That’s why 5 star weapons are always superior to 4 star weapons. The higher the base attack, the higher you total atk stat and the better your damage
Kinda want a hypercarry Zhezhi too
I used it on Xiangli Yao since I don't have any good catalyst weapons
@kerr-p2q Yeah the gauntlet. My bad :')
is it good for him ? better than the Crt.D 3stars weapon ?
@@bravo1554 I haven't tried using the 3 star weapons. But the weapon's effect (resonance liberation dmg bonus) works really well for him.
Which one will you choose?
Rectifier for encore cuz i got her on SK banner
I just chose the gauntlet bc I don't have anything to use for my Xiangli Yao 😐 is it a bad thing?
Sword for Danjin because my Havoc Rover is already holding my EoG.
thinking of getting the broadblade for my Jiyan but I dunno....
Using commando of conviction because it's R5. Honestly don't know what to get cus I don't have a 5 star support character and the supports I built have better options. 🤷♀️
Isn't the Commando Of Conviction better(at least at R5) due to much larger ATK% on the weapon ability on intro? Even if you run quickswap comps it's still applies since it doesn't disappear.
you should do a summary at the end for zoomers like me
@@Synocra sure. I’ll keep that in mind
Wait, that sword is so cool.
Man 2 def scaling characters are receiving no love
Can I put it on verina? also does verina scale on the atk% too? or Only the pure base atk that we get from our Pokémons
@@rexerousplayz237 yes verina’s healing scales off total attack but not just base attack. Also a little bit of correction. You get base attack from character levelling and weapons
@@rexerousplayz237 yes verina’s healing scales off total attack but not just base attack. Also a little bit of correction. You get base attack from character levelling and weapons. For verina’s weapon, give her the variation or the rectifier of the voyager
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Hi... i'm here to whatever ^_^
@@outsiderd 😂
Can these weapons be crafted or are the new weapons gacha only????
is there any way to speed them up to their max refinement?
@@rayhorn100 not that I know of. They’ll be available in future banners so you have to get copies and refine them
Mine is still in box. No materials to lvl XD
I got the broadsword
i m thinking of giving it to xiang liao
since I m not sure what standard weapon to chase for
i m interested in Chun which is most likely to be a gun user
so i d might build pity towards standard gun in case I dont have enough astrites for her + weapon
Wow thank 😅
I took the Broadblade for Lumi. Just hoping that her concerto recharge fast
@@sil4344 if it’s not fast, consider using the discord broadblade
I’m f2p, didn’t pull yet cause I’m not sure. Having build baizi, Verina and Shorekeeper and they all sharing variation lvl.80.
I have Jinshi and Xiangli Yaos signature, so their also fine.
I didn’t maxed out Rover yet but I’ve build Sanhua, Mortefi, Jianxin as Sub dps.
Jianxin using Marcato, but I’m making sure she gets Abyss Surges bc she deserves it.
Mortefi got that 5 star gun weapon.
But Sanhua and Rover are sharing Emerald Genesis. And I’m clueless whom I get to build next 🫠🫠
I’ve Chixia, YangYang and Yuanwu at S6 but I’m not touching them yet.
Can someone suggest me some steps? Or should I just wait for next updates?
Edit: I do have encore, but I dislike her playing style. Also same with Danjin (S6), I’m not a risk taker so I don’t prefer her fighting style. Kinda afraid of her to use honestly
😢I just grabbed the gun within the 1st minute I got the box
I made that mistake with the free 5 star weapon box. I should of gotten the sword instead but i wanted it for mortefi
@@tradingcomparisons6591 When I first started I wanted the five star catalyst for Verina and pulled for it on standard weapon and got it. Later when Xiangli Lio came out I used my chest to get the gauntlets. Now I am sad as I try to build 4 star supports without the sword:(
@@tradingcomparisons6591 It's mortefis bis and probably as valuable as the sword if not more if you have a mortefi jiyan build. You can also still get the sword from the standard banner
haha, well turns out I didn't get Jiyan so i thought I would never touch those guns again, untill Changli dropped and Chixia slayed so hard with her
I have four copies of sword from banner should I merge them or keep individual
Merg them theres a bunch of swords to use and great combo for the 4star characters 3 is already usefull for them comando of conviction/Sword#18/overture overture give 51% energy regen good for all 4 stars sword#18 for danjins heavy gives extra hp and damage and commando for sanhua her intro combos well with it
merge them you cannot afford to level em all up anyways
You can merge all of them since you can switch weapons in the Tower
u can merge one or two depending on how many sword users are in your teams
It's better to have a more refined and better weapon than a bunch of mid ones
I used it to upgrade EoG sword 💀
Slay girl slay
@@Tea_1810 😂
I already completed the event now where do i collect these weapon?
Go to your backpack and scroll to the last section. You’ll find a box there. Click on it and choose the one you want
@@itssenpai626 Thanks
what about Youhu and guntlets?
@@algozord for a sub dps youhou, it’s a good option but for healer youhou, it’s not that great
@@itssenpai626 heal in wuwa mainly to activate rejuvenate set bonus anyway 😂
@@itssenpai626 thanks for info! I still hold my box with these weapons lol :D
I don't get it. Are the BP weapons bad? I never see someone talking about them
My Danjin is using the BP weapon, this one is better for her?
Im using her as Sub-DPS for Havoc Rover
They are not talked that much because they are naturally decent. Thanks to the ones with crit stats on them
all 4* weapons are temporary until you get any 5*. but R5 BP weapon can be on par (or slightly better) with standard 5* (on specific chars like Li Yao). u decide is it worth $50 ($15 when substract all benefits value)
They are decent, mostly the ones that have crit rate. The 5* weapons are still better than any other 4* weap, but the BP ones do their job really well.
is the new sword at r1 still better than commando of conviction r5?
@@robertdotuan500 R5 commando of conviction will give you more damage but if you can’t maintain your liberation every rotation, I suggest you go for the event weapon as
Only copers use this 4* weapon when they try to pull a limited 5* weapon but failed even the banners is guaranteed 😏
I can't gey get 100 points 😢
Which mission are you struggling with?
@itssenpai626 battle missions
@@itssenpai626 can we do it in co op?
@@Vortex2056 I’m not sure. Unless I test it out. Are you having trouble with the one that has many conditions before you can pass the test?
@@itssenpai626 yes and other one too i am lvl 70 and my enemy's is level 120 like what i am getting one shotted