BMW 1 Series Old vs New - M140i vs M135i - Quarter Mile DRAG RACE, Rolling Sprint & Brake Test!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2020
- Recently, we enlisted the help of our good friend Tom (aka TGE TV) to find out if the new 2020 BMW M135i 2l 4 cylinder with xDrive has what it takes to school the 2019 BMW M140i 3l 6 cylinder on a damp track.
We challenged them head-to-head in the ultimate BMW 1 Series drag race, by doing a quarter mile drag sprint, a rolling sprint and also a brake test! Which car will come out on top? Watch on to find out!
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So the older generation is faster at the drag race, destroys the new at the rolling races, has better brake perfomance and sounds nicer. So well done BMW, you did a great job:D
Old e60 m5 is still the fastest m5
@@Ap-gk4rs fastest in wich way ?
I sincerely hope that BMW release a new 140i and don’t make it look like a 5 year olds play room
@@Yayane_ in terms of topspeed
Ap247 Absolutely not.
M140i every time. Have BMW made a fatal error with this new 1 series? I say yes. It’s compromised.
Murray Sampson they’ve lost sight of their principles. The size and content of their range tells you that, these days they’re going for quantity.
So compromised it'll double the sales? Possibly.
@@SampleTracks2224 Not many people call Ferrari's rubbish but they seem not to sell in bulk.
It might double sales but only because there are enough people who want the image more than what it feels like.
Murray Sampson I have a feeling BMW will make a faster version of the new 1 series and they’ll call it the M140i
@@SampleTracks2224 See my above comment.
Si Raff +1
Please re film in the dry and the 140 will be further ahead in every test.
Its a leasing company. They don't want to show us the M140i jumping up and down over the focus - sorry M135i they can lease to you.
@@siraff4461 it's a mini not a focus👍🤣 the m140i does have terrible traction in the wet especially on the factory fit tyres.
@@John-fo9jy Mini, focus, s3, golf - who knows or cares (I get the point that its basically a countryman under the frock)? Its the most generic hatch BMW have ever made. The M140i has poor wet traction but I'd take that any day over the yawn fest the M135i has become.
I had the old one and it was a brilliant laugh. Took the new one out and it could be any other haldex 4wd 2.0t hatch - and there are loads of them.
@@siraff4461 I've got an m140i says it all really 👍
@@John-fo9jy I can't see me trading my M140i in anytime soon for a new MINI, sorry M135i....
M140i owner here. Just came in to drop a like....and...well watch the predictable laws of physics at work. Cheers.
M140i is such a great car, it will take something special for me to change mine
I went from the a45amg 2015, to a m140i 2018, the car is miles ahead, interior is better, sound is better (with downpipe) , rear wheel is 1000x more fun, rolling you can destroy most cars even cars out of its league, try getting Bootmod3 , you will gap a m4 by 10 car lengths haha
BMW killed the 1 series. RIP
I am lucky to have seen this video as I am already planning to swap my f20 with the new f40 in Sept. Swap cancelled.
1 series is for girls anyway 😂
They will sell like hot cakes.
You don’t know shit about car business
“I think he stopped before me” there is *clearly* a HUGE difference
🙈just a bit 🤣
Leaseloco loved the video btw. Already a big fan of Tom and I can see myself watching these type of videos.
So the new one is slower, looks far worse, only has a crappy 4 cylinder engine and on top of that costs more? Good job BMW. *slow clap*
xXAlmdudlerXx and it’s FWD
@@kevindt1350 its AWD lol
Sir Wankalot FWD Platform but the new AWD will never drive as great as an RWD Platform AWD because in the new AWD most of the Power is going to the Front-Wheels
Manuel. sch So Audi were wrong to go AWD in the rallies years ago - you know.......all those rallies that they won against rwd cars?
@@user-xh3wr1do7k No, because years ago audi had a rear wheel drive based AWD that means that a bigger part of the power goes to the rear wheels
The new m135i has no interest to me whatsoever
Why would you buy one over a second hand 6 cylinder car ?
Carrera 1972 100%
People think newer is always better
There's no replacement for displacement
charltonnel there is, but not in this car.
Haha, even on a soaking wet track the M140 wins, the rolling race show how much better it is over the M135. Gota feel sorry for the M135 fan boys, The B58 makes the M140 a proper weapon 💥
Relentless Pursuit both great cars , m140 is a lot fast mid range always going to be with that B58
@@MotechPerformance would love to see on dry track to see if the gap was even bigger, suspect it will be!
Relentless Pursuit m145 vs m140 that’s the one want to see next , remember the m135i is not to replace the m140 , that’s coming soon
@@MotechPerformance interested to see if they actually do so, anyone considering the 135 should hold off and see what happens. Sure is a crowded sector of the market
Motech Performance But how much is the potential new M145i going to cost? The new M135i is already more expensive than the old M140i!
Interesting! Would like to see the same race on a dry track. Recon in those circumstances the m140 would leave it for dead
The market is saturated with 2ltr awd 4 pots, the usp was the engine and rwd....
M135i is a great car, perfect for us UK folk too with that 4wd... but will never replace the M140i!
the old m140i has 4wd too!
japan for ever Youre right! But in the UK we only get the Rwd variant
japan for ever U.K only got the RWD which explains why there is always at least 5 a week on copart😂. Didn’t even know the 140 was xdrive else where until now?
gingerbread man Idk about the Uk market wise but in europe i did have a m140i Xdrive and if you search it up too you can confirm that it exist
Nice vid but stop copying carwow be more original and sound editing needs improving not hating just stating the obvious!! 👏
Credit where credit's due, they do have a very good format that works for both them and plenty of other content producers across TH-cam and TV - if it isn't broke...
On that note, that's exactly why our take on it is very much Old vs New, head-to-head drag racing - have the manufacturers improved on the older car or missed the mark?
Would you like to see us produce more content like this or would you prefer to see something else?
@@Leaseloco the Content was good but just put your own flavor to it own it dont just copy another platform if its doing well, shows a lack of creativity which I'm sure that's not the case but you both seem to have fun doing it which is the important thing at the end of the day keep it up boys 👍
It's so sickening to have people who criticize without providing alternatives, it's called stupidity, Leaseloco, you have done this comparison in the best way possible, there is no better way that you would have done this, it's not even about having fun doing, it's pinned down to doing it in the best formula which is what you guys have done, big up forget this autistic loser.. Adding flare, what stupid flare here...
@@duffydon1741 it's called creative criticism and freedom of speech!! Plus when did I say it was a bad vid and for you to jump to Insulting someone you dont even know just shows the calibre and childish keyboard worrier you are does your parents even know your online little dude I really feel sorry for you!!
@@matthewdickenson142 you're still going about your lameness, creative criticism is providing solutions to what you see as a 'problem' I know how it feels to be outsmarted by a kid, stop criticizing if you don't have solutions, it looks stupid on you Mr big baby, if you don't have solutions, shut up and uphold the good work that other people do... I know the truth hurts..
A real BMW performance car should never be a front wheel drive.
this is awd lol
“If you like the losing car, we have a great deal on those at the moment!” 😃
Don’t forget that the 140i being RWD only was just a UK thing. In Europe XDrive was an option, and it was actual XDrive, not some lame FWD biased SUV rubbish badged as such.
this is exactly the reason why im keeping my stage 2 M235 6MT :D
I’m amazed the new M135 did as well as it did. My guess was the weather because I have the old M140 and it’s ballistic. Off the line I’m not interested really, just feels punishing, but rolling acceleration is proper satisfying. Looks better too imo.
Well??? Maybe we've watched 2 different videos lol😂
That’s a fair result. The 135i did fairly well considering the power/torque deficit. It should have surprised no one. I still think both cars are mint and I can’t wait to get hold of my M135i. It’s easily going to be the better car for me to live with. (If I spent my days drag racing then I’d definitely by a 140!). Good vid 👍🏻👍🏻
Andy Allen I couldn’t agree more. My best mate has a 140, and I love it. Bùt.....I want a performance car under all circumstances and with a lovely modern interior. And for me that’s the M135i. 15 years ago I would drive the 140, no doubt. But I’m becoming a bit of an old fart 💨 😜 My M135i is coming first week of may, can’t wait.
Whoa that M135i is a fatty - 1,520kg ?!?! Heavier than before, smaller engine and slower. Not good BMW.
AWD is heavy bro
@@highopay True but there are AWD hot hatches that are lighter. Golf R and S3 are like 1.4tons.
They'll make a more powerful version of the new car. They don't have the rear wheel drive USP anymore so They have to make a car with around 400bhp to compete with the A45s and the RS3.
@@milinddixit6583 lol they’re not that light. Go look at their quoted weights, they’re pushing close to 1600kg
As a life long BMW driver, this type of cost cutting is a slap in the customer base's face..and it started with the E90 and e81...both had me going back to the e46 on two seperate occasions
Great Vídeo !! I Love my M140i. 👍👏
Great vid ..!
Both cars are running OPF back exhausts no other tuning mods 👍
How that front grill design got into production is madness
Definitely prefer M140i to M135i, however, apart from the performance, M135i gives you an upgrade on infotainment system and interior design. In terms of the shooting style, it reminds me of carwow.😄
‘I think he stopped before me’...... he’s miles behind 😂
Nice one!
Proud M140i owner🤟
Haha TGE‘s Jeremy Clarkson „Poweerrrrrr“ Scream at 3:00 😂
Both nice cars. Well done guys
here in europe we got the ///M140i A Xdrive who would have smashed your small m135i to center of earth ...i even do not talk about the music of the B58 compared to the noise of the 4 pot...nice vlog thanks
And yet, your car is the dead one. That's gotta suck.
@@SampleTracks2224 Hos is it dead?
The new 135i moved the engine forward ahead of the front axel like Audi and a back to front 911. So its not only FWD understeer but 65% 35% f to r weight distribution. The previous generation 140i has a proper 50% front to rear 50% weight distribution and more sporting rwd.
The big mistake with BMW was that if they needed more space and leg room instead of destroying chassis dynamics and throwing away their rwd advantage over the competition, they could so easily have lengthened the wheelbase and overall length to create good legroom and boot space while keeping 50 50 weight distribution, rwd and chassis dynamics advantages which used to make BMWs so special to drive.
If I wanted a FWD car that was actually reliable id buy a Honda or Toyota. Customers are only prepared to pay more for an unreliable chinese components BMW if it has a better driving experience, better balance and good steering feedback.
So theres no point buying a FWD chinese BMW when Japanese Honda or Toyota cars are beter engineered to last longer and be much more reliable.
So for me id look for a low mileage mint condition 140i and fit a birds bmw lsd handling kit and a celtictunning power upgrade. If rear space was an issue then get an 335i E91 instead and fit the birds lsd handling kit instead of a new gen M135i. Or do the same to an 320ed E91 if low running costs are important to you.
It's xdrive so not fwd lol
m140i looked like it was racing in a stream on the right side of the track.
Kinda makes me smile knowing I got myself one of the last m140i's.
3 door as well in Melbourne red with oyster leather 🤣
Nice spec you have there man🙌🔥
I have the m240i with manual 6 gear. Every day this car give me goosebump.
I love the 3 door version. Instant Coupé feeling. I own a 125d F21. A shame that there won't be a 3 door version of the new one. Paradoxically the new Series 2 Gran Coupé has 4 doors. Very confusing the new BMW world.
Why is it drawn at the driver hitting the line? Yet the front bumpers are what are lines up at the start?
The 140i, with it's straight six, is classy. The sound is best in the class, the 135 instead is noisy
I want the paddle shifters in the M140. Where can I get them?
The quality of the video is very impressive. It’s up there with car wow
The m140i side looks a lot wetter as well definitely more spray
Is there anything similar to either of these available in the US?
Why does that M135i actually look nice. it's lowered and just has a better stance.
m140i has 100% been tuned. what a car.
And that's what we call progress!
BMW has always been my favourite and they did a very good job. Keyword "did" - past tense, they aren't doing that now. Older gens are superior in every way and actually look beautiful. The only good thing about the new M135i is the back, I can't really complain about that rear coz but other than that the car looks hideous.
I collected my new m135i this week, replacing my 2017 m140i(which I loved). I initially did not like the look of the new model, but in truth it looks so much better is person (plus pack is a must for larger alloys) and after sitting both side by side, I think the new model looks much better. The photos and videos do not do the new model any justice.
In terms of comparison, the m140i is better if you like to spend your weekends going as fast as you can in a straight line. The m135i wins in every other aspect, albeit without the 6 cylinder sound.
The interior in vastly superior in terms of tech and quality of components. I did not realise how dated the m140i felt until I sat in the m135i. The driving position is much better and general feel is great. Being quite tall(6ft3) I find the new car much comfier and a lot more spacious.
The m135i performance is superb, and does not leave me wanting for the m140i, especially in the miserable Scottish weather where I can now plant the right foot in the knowledge that I will go forward. Quickly.
If you have not made your mind up on this car then go for a test drive, you will not be disappointed!
Ok wait till your car is 5 years old and the shine is gone..then come back here and compare them
Each to there own pal, but I'll never replace the b58 rwd for a 20l 4pot fwd or a 4wd he'll no. Boring as feck!!!
@@jldp24 doubt I’ll have it then! Haven’t kept a car more than 3 years so far…
@@williamgrant200 agree the b58 is great. I thought the same until I drove the new model, but it changed my opinion. Would’ve kept both if I could! Totally different cars tbh.
Shouldn't they be comparing it to the original M135i rather than M140i?
BMW F20/21 are great looking cars
With M packet..
The regular new m135i front grill looks like it's been designed by an 11 year old girl who's just watched the Frozen films back to back.
Well done BMW you win the award for fookin the 1 series. So much for progress.
Glad I bought the right car :-)) M140i in Estoril Blue...
Thank you for this video, you have made me just cancel my order for the M135i :) What to get instead tho?
i am sure mDe your mind up by now, but what did you end up getting?
Stage one on both would be interesting 🤔, I know 140 stage one is an absolute weapon, I can’t imagine the new 135i going past 370 ish? Being a 4pot
They don't like tuning the new 135i because the internal suffer from high temperatures and everything overheats. I think 370 is max without getting a lot of issues
@@ArcticRob didn’t know this, thanks👍
@@gingerbreadman5265 no worries I didn't know either until a couple days ago
Maybe do a M135i F40 vs M135i F20 Facelift vs M135i F20 pre Facelift
Because it could be more balanced
A great review! But you should have compared the M140i xDrive (unfortunately not available in the UK) with the "neutered" new M135i xDrive.🤓
Great stuff. Try to do tests in the dry.
It's the wrong direction BMW is heading, but one thing I like so much is the back of the M135i, it looks so aggressive!
So in the only conditions that 1 series mock off could have won, it still lost...
I'm happy with that
Just came from the Joe Achilles video talking about the new M135i and potentially racing the older M140i. Someone needs to send this to him
Why are fanboys in the comments moaning. The new m135i was never really supposed to replace the 140i.
And the race really should be racing against the old m135i I think personally for an apples to apples test
Why does every body do the m135i vs the m140i ?? Do the 135 vs 135 ??
Maybe because it makes sense to compare the last LCI2 model with a brand new performance platform of a totally new model which the m135i is not, it's called common sense, that's why BMW is going to make an A45s rival (1series) which will be a proper M car churning out 400hp..i hope this will help you to think before you type..
@@duffydon1741 so why would you not put the m135i f21 up on the new m135i lighter more power and a lot better engine the f21 m135i hase 326bhp agents the 306 new model ? And i can almost promise you that the will not bring out a new m1 ?
@@acko8016 It can't be called an M1, because that was the original M car.
They are bringing out a 'new' M140i though.
Because there really isn't any difference in the performance of the N55 and the B58. Both are 3L i6's with similar torque and power. Most use the B58 (140i) because it is the newest of the two which is good for comparison.
It’s sad to see the special M140i design go and be replaced by a basic non-special hatchback design. Now it doesn’t stand out anymore.
Pls do the test with m140i xdrive vs. M135i (2020) in this case its not fair ...
That will shut all the “its 4 wheel drive it will be faster in wet than the old m140i” specialist from facebook forums 😂
BMW The ultimate driving machine, in a straight line!!!!.
Which one is expensive between the 2?
Carwow told a different story on the drag race in the dry with the M135i winning. Also brakes are better in the M135i. The only area the M140i succeeds is mid range torque
Hey, hope you enjoyed the video. That's interesting, it just shows that depending on the conditions on the day that each car has its own strengths and both are very good in their own right (the same goes for the drivers 🤣).
I would also say the M140 wins on fun as well being rear wheel drive.
Puts a great big smile on my face going sideways out onto a road!
And sound, and looks with a 3-door option, and driver involvement with a manual gearbox option...
dungareesareforfools not sure about looks of the old 1 series but I guess that is subjective but sound definitely the old one takes it.
"We have a great deal on the M135"...go to the website and "We've ranked this deal as having a Loco Score of 58/100 using our unique algorithm. Deals below 60 are considered by us to be poor."
I cant help but belive buying an m140 or 35i is a good investment now (providing you dont do 10- 15,000 a year for a few years) literally is no other car of this past decade like them.
Looks like the 140 also had more sitting water on the track at the start of the drag race
The dude really a professional hey...damn
You have to look at tyres to. Same brand?
A great video. But it compares apples with oranges. I come from Germany and drive the BMW 140i xDrive. Unfortunately, it wasn't available in the UK. Traction is much better on wet roads than the M140i with rear-wheel drive🤓
Is it possible for just anyone to rent a strip like this to do a drag race or test you max speeds in the UK ?
How is this progress?
Great video lads, great info but what’s with the two caterpillars sorry eye brows 🤷.
Bro his north face coat is so dope
Nothing beats a straight six bmw engine
2:41 why does the older car look like its ahead at the launch?
Got a 2015 m135i lci. No way I’ll be parting with it any time soon
Such a no brainer its beyond me why anyone would chose a new 1/2 series over the 1/240i
Try adding weight maybe to the specs of the cars, some more info would be nice
Nice comparison, a 400hp 1 series is on the way, which will be an ///M and not the m..
Power is a justice!
Let's see the i140 vs A45s on your drag race pls
As an m140i xDrive owner, can anyone give me a valid point to swap my car with this one? Gosh, I hope BMW has something better on the radar for the 1series.
If both of these had a stage one re map the gap would be much larger
Here for the brake test..😆
Nice job, BMW. The newer 1 series generation is a Golf now. That´s why I walked away from you.
Very emotional
Old BMW M140i i6 Twin Turbo, 335hp, Top Speed 270KM/H
New BMW M135i i4, 304hp, Top Speed 250KM/H
It is crazy model. No development as Toyota MR2. Old is better than new model.
I like this it’s a nice one
The new one should be named ‚M120i Active Tourer‘ 😄
Really I don't understand that obsession with the torque figure. What always matter is power; and of course not only the max. value but the instant power over rpm.
Nice comparison anyway. As owner of a 140i manual I can only say good words of the car.
Standing start rolling race then a brake test 🤔 never seen that before... #matwatson
The new 135i grill is better and will grow on us all I'm sure.
4 wheel drive is the only way to go these days especially when tuning which most hooligans who buy these cars do.
Doesn't wake the turbo up as much on a long journey" dont think that's an accurate comment and the main reason for fuel efficiency increase, especially sat on a motorway at a constant speed, apart from abruptness pulling away I think itll be more a coasting thing when lifting off the accelerator.
Bring on the M140i, that will be something else.
Not gonna lie though, the inline 6 will be missed so too the v12s.
Should have brought the M140i xdrive to the uk
Would have stolen so many S3/Golf R/A45 sales if they did, pity BMW weren't braver when they released it by offering the Xdrive in UK
Robinho's Left Foot we need x drive in the uk with our bad weather😂
@@R53.charlie Damn right. When people go on about not needing 4wd in UK as not much snow, it is nothing to do with snow, but putting the power down in bad weather (rainy weather) safely
Robinho's Left Foot yeah, I have an m2 and it’s fun in the wet, but it’s not my daily so it’s only used to have fun, it’s not practical😂
@@R53.charlie 👍
having driven the 2 series coupe vs owning a 1 series hatch rwd, lemme tell ya ditch the 1 it doesnt turn at all it understeers
When i imagine an m140i owner. He is exactly it.
no replacement for displacement.
Lets be honest, the 140 is too good value for money. They had to step it down to increase value on M2, M3 cars. If you can spend £20k +£3-5k in mods to have a 10k mile 140 which is 99% an M2, you would take it and the cash difference of a further £15-20k. Its too good value for what you get. They had to make the new one worse.
Very nice video. I see you haven’t learnt anything from Jeremy Clarkson.