what happens if you get sick! it doesn't matter if you are only ALLOWED 1o days. your body doesn't know that. im never healthly but I do my best to give 200% when im there and try to make up any lost time. But I get migraines....what am I supposed to do? Go to work anyway and be useless?
If you don't want employees to have time off just say that. If sick days are given they can and should be used. It's not the employees fault there isn't proper coverage in their absence
You should try not to take more then two sick days a month and try not to be sick every month but employers do need to realize s**t happens sometimes people just get sick a lot I’ve seen it with some people with weak immune systems. That’s why it’s best to give your employer some prof if you can a doctors note saying you were sick if you can.
2 sick days a month is a shit load. I'm a department manager at a grocery store we allow associates a 10% so if your scheduled 20 shifts in a month and your late twice it's a write up
Funny how the "employers" never seem to get sick or "have things going on" OP is probably that employee who is always calling out for shit, death, sick , car trouble, injury, family emergency ect. Dealing with 2 of these workers right now.
@@coolstorybro_cant_wait_4_movie same here, it never ends! I’ve taken 2 sick days in the past year. I woke up with horrible gout (my first time ever) and felt like a hammer went at my foot. I didn’t even want to stay home. I only have 12 on my staff but if everyone called out twice a month I’d be covering every day! Ridiculous.
I can tell that some of yall are employers. 2 a month is quite a lot. To be frank tho it is not the employees responsibility to worry about what happens at work when they are sick. If you are an employer it is your responsibility to have some extra employees to cover a shift. If a job takes 6 employees you should have 8 to 9. Its standard practice. Have more so your employees dont get burnt out and you have a more leniant workforce.
A guy I work with calls out sick every Monday (almost) and this gets very frustrating (I end up dealing with his work) & then he is off every Friday yet too. It is bullcrap.
I understand but this isn't that. Someone hasn't exhausted there sick day and there is a threat if they take more there will be "a more serious talk". A better resolution is to require a doctor's note once it starts getting excessive.
My coworkers do this shit all the time and my boss lets them get away with it no matter how many times they do it. They show up late every day too! Nobody gets sick that often unless it involves some kind of disease that's heavily treated with medicine. But too many people do that shit for it to be realistic.
Or employers should at least pay some kind of bonus to those who do bother to show up and have to constantly carry the load for those throwing too many sickies. It's not fair on those who have to work doubly hard for nothing but stress and exhaustion in return.
It honestly shouldn’t be something that you’re worried about. Taking a few sick days off is no big deal. Some times things come up, some days you feel like trash.
I think this approach is bad. If you asked if there is anything that I want to "tell you". My response is not, "there is not anything I would want to tell you". It is, "if I have not exhausted my sick leave why am I here". If I was that employee I would go see a lawyer when she starts suggesting my sick leave isn't legitmate.
I know it’s a yr later but ur last sentence just help me add more details in my complaint letter to HR. My boss wrote me up for using my sick leave.., when I was actually sick … so is saying my sick leave isn’t legitimate which is false bc those are my benefits!!
Basically what corporate is saying.... you have 10 available sick days, but you arent really supposed to use them because it will look really bad on your future with the company.
He may very well be that sick 😫 🤦♀️ a little birdie told mea manager in my area had to miss at least a month because they had a major invasive surgery.... you'd have them working when they should 💯 be healing up 🤦♀️ plus if someone is truly sick I 💯 don't want their germs and their cooties! If you are sick stay home! Far away from me! I might have to pick up the slack, but I'd rather do that then get sick!
take as many sick days as youre allowed to take and dont feel guilty. there are gonna be days when youre just burnt out and thats fine to take a day or 2 a month but try to time your sick leave so it wont look too often
My situation is hard I have a good worker but in the space of 3 months he's gone home 2 hours early for feeling rough(always at the weekend shifts) on 3 occasions and 2 full sick days straight after a holiday When I sit down and speak to him he says it's not his fault he's sick UK
How about employees that are supposed to work in the office two days a week but when she comes takes long lunches and work less than 8 hours but write 8 hours on the time sheet, why employers allow that?
@2:00 if that employee is "near his limit" then holy sh*t he's fine. As long as he didn't take more than 10 days every employee is entitled to those days. You want reliable employees then let them take certain days off until they reach their limit. If they use all their days then that's on THEM. Stop working people until they drop dead, that's unfair and that's why everything should be reevaluated
My coworker will go on vacation and then miss days again and I just know his pto is gone by now . What’s worse it’s only two people in my job that’s full time so I have been getting hounded to come in on my day off almost weekly.
The entire idea of limited sick days is stupid as hell. Life happens and it doesn't recognize arbitrary limits like that. If you're ill, you're ill - the end. Monitor me all you want, but sod your limits.
Yep feel the frustration I have 1 new worker age 27 and all he has to do is car park duties 7-3 5 shifts a week. 3 months in he text me on 3 occasions to go home 2 hours early because feeling unwell On 2 separate week holidays he's been sick for 1 day straight after he comes back
I’m half way through this video and this guy starts deflecting right out of the gate. Like a child not owning his actions instead pointing to “ Natasha’s” maybe you both should kick rocks. Thanks For pointing out someone that is worse than you are
I'm Canadian and in the province I live people are allowed ten sick days a year without a doctor's note. I only use them when I really need them but I see SO many people abuse them it's ridiculous. I can usually tell they're faking because of timing, their age etc. I hear ya on that.
CryLittleSister I don’t see an issue if we are allowed 10 sick days use them is it wrong to use them when your not sick yea but once there up you better be working and not sick cause now you used them up
As good as this video is, I'm getting this weird good guy vs bad guy vibe. Sometimes this isn't the case. Do we consider reoccuring health issues? In scenario 1, the boss was out of line. In scenario 2, the employee was out of line. The real world isn't like this.
I understand staying home to not spread whatever you have to your co workers. If I'm coherent and capable, I'm going to work. Most ppl didnt even notice that I was sick. In the last 5 years I believe I've had 2 sick days. I tell my guys "either you want to work or you dont." That whole being fair thing is stupid. You throw your coworkers under the bus. Like you know your doing something wrong as a kid an saying but that kid is doing it too. Grow some balls, own your actions. I have a guy that has missed 4 days in the last three months. Everytime I have to tell him to stay home for 2 weeks bc of covid. It doesnt help me or the other ppl at all.
There’s a difference if you have a slight cough but can still work then you manage your cough at work. But if your slammed and can’t even stand up out of bed stay home. See many will take a small cough or a headache as I’m sick no take some pills and you’ll be fine it’s the ones that abuse the system that need to stop people that are actually sick get guilted into working when they should actually stay home.
That's bullshit tho. Not talking about staying home over some sniffles, but if you're legit ill, you're not throwing anyone under any busses. It's the managers that are shit for not securing enough people to patch something that is a natural part of life. Whoever runs the place is the one driving the bloody bus, then playing the blame game.
@@supercalifragilestic It's easy for someone who isn't in a management position to take this stance. Most times, a manager has no budget to include enough people and has to make do with the number of employees they have. It would be irresponsible for employees to then continuously take leave. You are being paid for a job afterall.
@@supercalifragilestic I've had an employee on sick leave since the 15th of this month. Today is the 26th and this morning she tells me she's still not feeling well so she will work from home. At the same time another employee is self-isolating as he has to come into close contact with his dad who tested positive for Covid. That was the initial plan, but 3 days into it none of his assigned tasks were being completed and he wasn't answering any communications. Finally got hold of his on Thursday only for him to say he's on leave and will only return today. Complete and utter bs. Now I have to discipline them both. Management might be driving the bus, but employees have a big influence on whether the bus stays on course or not.
This type of tactic is trying to force your authority (power) over your employees. And then she threatened him with further disciplinary actions should it continue. Yeah, great tactic. Good if the employee is shit, but crap if the employee is good.
I have worker who is good but he's young and sometimes especially at weekends he sometimes texts to say "sorry mate not feeling well can I go home early" on 3 occasions in 3 months
We all take one or two sick days when we’re not sick everyone dose the only thing is you shouldn’t make a habit of it or else work will start to question if you are actually sick or not
Incredible, i cant even remember the last time i called in sick. Its been well over 10 years, actually and honestly its been that long that i cant even give an answer.
I wish people were allowed to take sick days. You see, what happens is that co-workers come to work terribly ill and then get the rest of us sick!
what happens if you get sick! it doesn't matter if you are only ALLOWED 1o days. your body doesn't know that. im never healthly but I do my best to give 200% when im there and try to make up any lost time. But I get migraines....what am I supposed to do? Go to work anyway and be useless?
I have the same thing now with a manager she wants to fire me because mi child got sick and then I got sick.
Maybe stop being a bitch
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If you don't want employees to have time off just say that. If sick days are given they can and should be used. It's not the employees fault there isn't proper coverage in their absence
Imagine doing that in a restaurant industry especially in the kitchen. Absolute madness
This is bs,this guy was allowed to use sick time during his sick days allowed. Stop bugging the guy.
You should try not to take more then two sick days a month and try not to be sick every month but employers do need to realize s**t happens sometimes people just get sick a lot I’ve seen it with some people with weak immune systems. That’s why it’s best to give your employer some prof if you can a doctors note saying you were sick if you can.
2 sick days a month is a shit load. I'm a department manager at a grocery store we allow associates a 10% so if your scheduled 20 shifts in a month and your late twice it's a write up
Hahahaha are you seriously trying to tell me you take almost 25 sick days a year?! That’s an entire month
Funny how the "employers" never seem to get sick or "have things going on" OP is probably that employee who is always calling out for shit, death, sick , car trouble, injury, family emergency ect. Dealing with 2 of these workers right now.
@@coolstorybro_cant_wait_4_movie same here, it never ends! I’ve taken 2 sick days in the past year. I woke up with horrible gout (my first time ever) and felt like a hammer went at my foot. I didn’t even want to stay home. I only have 12 on my staff but if everyone called out twice a month I’d be covering every day! Ridiculous.
I can tell that some of yall are employers. 2 a month is quite a lot. To be frank tho it is not the employees responsibility to worry about what happens at work when they are sick. If you are an employer it is your responsibility to have some extra employees to cover a shift. If a job takes 6 employees you should have 8 to 9. Its standard practice. Have more so your employees dont get burnt out and you have a more leniant workforce.
A guy I work with calls out sick every Monday (almost) and this gets very frustrating (I end up dealing with his work) & then he is off every Friday yet too. It is bullcrap.
I understand but this isn't that. Someone hasn't exhausted there sick day and there is a threat if they take more there will be "a more serious talk". A better resolution is to require a doctor's note once it starts getting excessive.
@@WhyDoThat I don’t know of a single doctor who is going to give an adult a fucking note..
My coworkers do this shit all the time and my boss lets them get away with it no matter how many times they do it. They show up late every day too! Nobody gets sick that often unless it involves some kind of disease that's heavily treated with medicine. But too many people do that shit for it to be realistic.
I think the approach is wrong and could result in legal action. The simple action to resolve it, is to require a doctor's note.
@@WhyDoThat yup problem solved
you the type to tell on people for longer breaks...lol
Have clear policies. Example: you must produce a doctor’s note after a certain number of days.
Or employers should at least pay some kind of bonus to those who do bother to show up and have to constantly carry the load for those throwing too many sickies. It's not fair on those who have to work doubly hard for nothing but stress and exhaustion in return.
The way her voice gets high pitched at the end of her sentences 😭😭 is driving me nuts
It honestly shouldn’t be something that you’re worried about. Taking a few sick days off is no big deal. Some times things come up, some days you feel like trash.
I think this approach is bad. If you asked if there is anything that I want to "tell you". My response is not, "there is not anything I would want to tell you". It is, "if I have not exhausted my sick leave why am I here".
If I was that employee I would go see a lawyer when she starts suggesting my sick leave isn't legitmate.
I know it’s a yr later but ur last sentence just help me add more details in my complaint letter to HR. My boss wrote me up for using my sick leave.., when I was actually sick … so is saying my sick leave isn’t legitimate which is false bc those are my benefits!!
What does one do about an employer who consistently denies annual leave?
Basically what corporate is saying.... you have 10 available sick days, but you arent really supposed to use them because it will look really bad on your future with the company.
Sooo.. what be a robot and not get sick!🤦♀️ yeah come in throwing up cmon employeers this is common sense 101!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️💯😫🤢🤮
I work with a guy who misses 30 days per year and the place still won't fire his ass
He may very well be that sick 😫 🤦♀️ a little birdie told mea manager in my area had to miss at least a month because they had a major invasive surgery.... you'd have them working when they should 💯 be healing up 🤦♀️ plus if someone is truly sick I 💯 don't want their germs and their cooties! If you are sick stay home! Far away from me! I might have to pick up the slack, but I'd rather do that then get sick!
you work in the video game industry don't you? i wish we had a truancy dpt.
take as many sick days as youre allowed to take and dont feel guilty.
there are gonna be days when youre just burnt out and thats fine to take a day or 2 a month but try to time your sick leave so it wont look too often
My situation is hard
I have a good worker but in the space of 3 months he's gone home 2 hours early for feeling rough(always at the weekend shifts) on 3 occasions and 2 full sick days straight after a holiday
When I sit down and speak to him he says it's not his fault he's sick
UK
How about employees that are supposed to work in the office two days a week but when she comes takes long lunches and work less than 8 hours but write 8 hours on the time sheet, why employers allow that?
@2:00 if that employee is "near his limit" then holy sh*t he's fine. As long as he didn't take more than 10 days every employee is entitled to those days. You want reliable employees then let them take certain days off until they reach their limit. If they use all their days then that's on THEM. Stop working people until they drop dead, that's unfair and that's why everything should be reevaluated
My coworker will go on vacation and then miss days again and I just know his pto is gone by now . What’s worse it’s only two people in my job that’s full time so I have been getting hounded to come in on my day off almost weekly.
That's the jobs fault not your coworker
The entire idea of limited sick days is stupid as hell. Life happens and it doesn't recognize arbitrary limits like that. If you're ill, you're ill - the end. Monitor me all you want, but sod your limits.
My supervisor constantly calls in sick literally every week I understand wanting to have time to rest and relax but who gets sick every week
Yep feel the frustration I have 1 new worker age 27 and all he has to do is car park duties 7-3 5 shifts a week.
3 months in he text me on 3 occasions to go home 2 hours early because feeling unwell
On 2 separate week holidays he's been sick for 1 day straight after he comes back
I’m half way through this video and this guy starts deflecting right out of the gate. Like a child not owning his actions instead pointing to “ Natasha’s” maybe you both should kick rocks. Thanks
For pointing out someone that is worse than you are
Ten days is insane! In America we get two to three days a year!
No if you work full time you should be getting more
Courtney Riane um I’ve been working full time for 14 years smh
I'm Canadian and in the province I live people are allowed ten sick days a year without a doctor's note. I only use them when I really need them but I see SO many people abuse them it's ridiculous. I can usually tell they're faking because of timing, their age etc. I hear ya on that.
CryLittleSister I don’t see an issue if we are allowed 10 sick days use them is it wrong to use them when your not sick yea but once there up you better be working and not sick cause now you used them up
What part of America you mean USA
As good as this video is, I'm getting this weird good guy vs bad guy vibe. Sometimes this isn't the case. Do we consider reoccuring health issues? In scenario 1, the boss was out of line. In scenario 2, the employee was out of line. The real world isn't like this.
Here post covid.
I understand staying home to not spread whatever you have to your co workers. If I'm coherent and capable, I'm going to work. Most ppl didnt even notice that I was sick. In the last 5 years I believe I've had 2 sick days.
I tell my guys "either you want to work or you dont." That whole being fair thing is stupid. You throw your coworkers under the bus. Like you know your doing something wrong as a kid an saying but that kid is doing it too. Grow some balls, own your actions.
I have a guy that has missed 4 days in the last three months. Everytime I have to tell him to stay home for 2 weeks bc of covid. It doesnt help me or the other ppl at all.
There’s a difference if you have a slight cough but can still work then you manage your cough at work. But if your slammed and can’t even stand up out of bed stay home. See many will take a small cough or a headache as I’m sick no take some pills and you’ll be fine it’s the ones that abuse the system that need to stop people that are actually sick get guilted into working when they should actually stay home.
That's bullshit tho. Not talking about staying home over some sniffles, but if you're legit ill, you're not throwing anyone under any busses. It's the managers that are shit for not securing enough people to patch something that is a natural part of life. Whoever runs the place is the one driving the bloody bus, then playing the blame game.
@@supercalifragilestic It's easy for someone who isn't in a management position to take this stance. Most times, a manager has no budget to include enough people and has to make do with the number of employees they have. It would be irresponsible for employees to then continuously take leave. You are being paid for a job afterall.
@@supercalifragilestic I've had an employee on sick leave since the 15th of this month. Today is the 26th and this morning she tells me she's still not feeling well so she will work from home. At the same time another employee is self-isolating as he has to come into close contact with his dad who tested positive for Covid. That was the initial plan, but 3 days into it none of his assigned tasks were being completed and he wasn't answering any communications. Finally got hold of his on Thursday only for him to say he's on leave and will only return today. Complete and utter bs. Now I have to discipline them both.
Management might be driving the bus, but employees have a big influence on whether the bus stays on course or not.
They get mad at you for being sick
Usually HR position is the most useless thing company ever created !! This crap usually run women who got there make till fake it attitude!
These people are ridiculous. If you're sick then you need to take sick time off. We need extra 30 day off for mental health
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lol UK and the US are different in many ways
Maybe just maybe they're actually sick!🤦♀️
This type of tactic is trying to force your authority (power) over your employees. And then she threatened him with further disciplinary actions should it continue. Yeah, great tactic. Good if the employee is shit, but crap if the employee is good.
I have worker who is good but he's young and sometimes especially at weekends he sometimes texts to say "sorry mate not feeling well can I go home early" on 3 occasions in 3 months
Nope. It’s a trap. They get dirt on you and then use it against you. Well, that’s been my experience. Just shitty managers.
Why is this woman in a position like this
How to micromanage poorly.
Ahhh surprise surprise... Australian...
whack it
This is genuine garbage, this would never ever happen in a professional capacity.
the writing is annoying, how about talk so we don't have to read the screen the entire time.
:/
He is just being super lazy and dont want to work! He needs to quit if he has an issue with it
We all take one or two sick days when we’re not sick everyone dose the only thing is you shouldn’t make a habit of it or else work will start to question if you are actually sick or not
They gave him 10 sick days. Hes using them. Suprised pikachu face from the employer.
Hope ur joking lol 😂 ppl can’t help If they’re sick !!
I seriously hate people with your mindset… you truly serve no purpose to this planet.
Incredible, i cant even remember the last time i called in sick. Its been well over 10 years, actually and honestly its been that long that i cant even give an answer.