If they were so good in literature did they claim in their literature that they are/were nomadic tribes? There are many mentions to river Parusni, Sutudri, Sarasvati, Yamuna but one mention to river near Kabul makes them Central Asians amazing logic?! If Migration really happened why these people chose to praise and describe and talk only of the land they adopted to settle but had not even a slightest inclination or nostalgia to talk about their history somewhere else this is foolishness! The vedas talk of the history of the Sindhu-Saraswati region and not of the history of their own past somewhere in Central Asia are we that naive to believe still in Invasion-Migration Theory? It's unfortunate that the learned people like her don't challenge these illminded theories of western scholars. We are still so mentally colonised by the west!
Digestion,deracination & inculturation are known strategies of Christians Abrahamics just find few words in their whole history & texts & claim that its equivalent to vast philosophy developed over time immemorial with whole lineage & established tradition th-cam.com/video/ZYt7821z9Dg/w-d-xo.html
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
If they were so good in literature did they claim in their literature that they are/were nomadic tribes? There are many mentions to river Parusni, Sutudri, Sarasvati, Yamuna but one mention to river near Kabul makes them Central Asians amazing logic?! If Migration really happened why these people chose to praise and describe and talk only of the land they adopted to settle but had not even a slightest inclination or nostalgia to talk about their history somewhere else this is foolishness! The vedas talk of the history of the Sindhu-Saraswati region and not of the history of their own past somewhere in Central Asia are we that naive to believe still in Invasion-Migration Theory? It's unfortunate that the learned people like her don't challenge these illminded theories of western scholars. We are still so mentally colonised by the west!
Are you saying Indians came from some other country ? If you donot know don't tuch the subject of migrestion. Dont spread lies concocted by British impiearialists.
it is a pity this indian company INFOSYS IS FUNDING THE SAME BRITISH THEORY AND falling down to the feet of white european lobbysts and american protestant groups , see what Danino , a french serious scholar has to say ; Danino says 1) “There is not one word in our scriptures, not one to prove that the Aryans ever came from anywhere outside India … the whole of India is Aryan, nothing else,” Swamiji had said. 2)NatureGeographical details also challenge the theory. “The Rig Veda has numerous references to ocean, ships, sailing, storms and waves, all of which invaders from Central Asia would not have known about,” noted Danino. 3)The archeological verdict turns out to be a negative, as well. “Had the Aryans migrated into India, we would expect some evidence of different tools, weapons, objects of daily use, pottery style and art forms, but that’s not the case,” said Danino. After more than a century of archeological investigations, there is still no evidence showing the arrival of new people in India. Due to mounting proof, archaeologists eventually dropped the Aryan Invasion Theory in favour of the concept of cultural continuity, between classical India and the Indus valley civilization. 4)During the past 10-15 years, several anthropological and genetic studies have emphasized a demographic continuity and a genomic unity in the Indian population. These experts, like archaeologists, also ruled out the arrival of new people. “It’s been concluded that all major components of the Indian populations have been settled here for some 40,000 years, at least,” said Danino. conclusion : “Despite such strong scientific evidence (and there is more in the fields of agriculture, archaeoastronomy, etc.), the Aryan invasion paradigm has become so entrenched in Western academia that it continues to be promoted even today,” quipped Danino. “In fact, India’s school textbooks also perpetuate the theory even though conclusive evidence shows there was no Aryan invasion.”
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Very good lecture but only downside is explaining in the point of aryan invasion theory. If we want to refer hymns as sukthas as it is our language and culture why subscribe to aryan invasion theory, isn't it foreign to us? All prejudices. Its really sad to see ...even so good learned lecturer subscribing to AIT and explaining interms of AIT
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Madam your knowledge is out dated. The Aryan Invasion or migration theory stands disproved and you are describing it. The river Saraswathy is mentioned a number of times and to day we know from satellite photography and other methods that there existed a mighty river called Saraswathi and it was flowing parallel to the Sindhu which was like stream those days. The archaeological sites along the Saraswathi river bed outnumber those along the Sindu by 5 times. As an Indian you should not be peddling a theory proposed by foreigners with no evidence from the Indian side what so ever. Please update yourself.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Wonderful discourse on Rigveda. Apart from the reference to the Aryan Migration Theory which has been debunked, I found the lecture worth watching a second time since there's so much new information for me. I knew Rigveda is the very foundation of Sanatan Dharma but to actually get to know what it contains is an experience in itself.
I have tried to go through this lecture, but the continuous reference to Aryans, Indra as a golden haired European, Indians as aborigines, even talking about arctic home of the Aryans, this seems pretty directed. Looks like an opportunity to provide proofs for Aryan Migration theory.
@@kevin238in I can understand why that might appear to be so. Initially I too believed in the Aryan Invasion/Migration Theory until I came across research which highlighted all the flaws in it. So when I heard Dr Paranjape speak of the Aryans in the way she did, I assumed she is in the same position as I was a few years ago and perhaps isn't acquainted with recent research which is unfortunate. However, I enjoyed this video and also the rest in this series due to her elucidation on the various fascinating suktas, mandalas and Upanishads. Would recommend to all those interested on this subject.
IT IS A PITY THIS INDIAN TRUST INFOSYS IS EXECUTING THE HEGEMONICAL IMPERIAL AMERICAN PLAN TO MENTALLY MAKE INDIANS FEEL INFERIOR BY STEALING THEIR HERITAGE
I found it difficult to digest that all of Indus valley civilization relics are to be found in present day Pakistan. What about Dholavira in Gujarat then?? Also her take on Aryan invasion theory. She says there is no archeology evidence. She may like to see videos of Prof Vasant Shinde a world renowned archaeologist and his work on Rakhigarhi. Rest of her talk is brilliant
If someone favours AIT/AMT then their education is colonialists way of interpreting our history , please refresh and read about NILESH OAK and Dr RAJ VEDAM.
The lecture is good. Ma'm is a learned scholoar. However, there is no archaeological evidence of migration of Aryans to the Indian subcontinenet, rig Veda has no mention or memory of the migration. Mention of Sarasvati as a full flowing river and a host of other literary and linguistic facts prove that Aryans were indigenous. Then why go into that topic. See this recent news article about RakhiGarhi th-cam.com/video/hJ9QMv7XOWQ/w-d-xo.html
Digestion,deracination & inculturation are known strategies of Christians Abrahamics just find few words in their whole history & texts & claim that its equivalent to vast philosophy developed over time immemorial with whole lineage & established tradition th-cam.com/video/ZYt7821z9Dg/w-d-xo.html These Westerners only exposed to Abrahamic ideology cant digest simple obvious fact that forest dwelling culture of abundance refined over the ageless continuum of the Indian civilization can naturally produce literary scientific advancements and a superior perennial philosophy
aryan is wrong word because no one traditional have the name aryan we have group name jeevathmas (soul)we have only in individual names for our body not for soul and we have come from sachidhanadham(Lord one who with beauty Ghana and happiness)
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
A lowly way of describing a great culture of knowledge. Most of the concepts are trivialized to the core. esp the aryan migration, soma as an intoxicant, the idea of creation of new gods etc... this should not be an introduction to Rig Veda, rather an introduction to the mindset of the speaker
@@sukeshpabolu3453 how do you intend to verify my abilities in Sanskrit And btw is rig Vedic language even paninian Sanskrit.. A rational mind will try to think from the perspective of the Rshis and not from one's own dull mindset
The veryfoundation on which this presentation is made is from.the point of view, that they have excepted AIT, and from that point on it is just an oration in praise of that point of view. And in doing so, culture essence has been diluted.....
@@nirvanabliss73 I was indicating that times have advanced and AIT and Steppe theories have been confronted successfully by Some devoted Enthusiasts and wonderful intellectuals. It is futile to keep beating around the old bush.
@@PSVVinodKumar No, that is not right. Invasion is different from migration. Saying 'I migrated from Maharashtra to Tamil Nadu' is very different from saying 'I invaded Tamil Nadu'
Those days when Vedas get developed there was no Pakistan and if we people say it was Pakistani city we are throwing our rights on Vedas. Pakistani are already trying to claim on yoga's showing Sindhu as Pakistani river
Thank you for saying that - I have been saying that also The British started using this word - of course our Gods are false and so our religion is false and so our stories are myths, our religion is not really a religion It is sad to see Hindus blindly continue to use this word - shows that we are still slaves
@@vinsin328 It is interesting that this word comes from the west - THEIR stories are Religious stories, OURS are mythological stories We still remain 2nd class people when we blindly use such words for our faith, our Religion
First, I will pay my respect to the "teacher" in Paranjpe ji. She is fluent and very articulate and her erudition is quite impressive. But it is deeply disappointing to hear her start with "Vedic Aryans were from the foothills of Caucuses..." Yes, I know she did say, this is a controversial topic and there is no evidence to say Aryans were from outside the Indian subcontinent. Point is, if there is no evidence, then don't make the mistake of perpetuating a very divisive theory about this Aryan Invasion or migration. Stay clear from it. I am not a scholar. I am just a person keen on civilizational issues. Right from Srikant Talageri, N S Rajaram, Koenraad Elst, to Dr. Lavanya Vemsani, Raj Vedam Nilesh Oak and so many others have rigorously argued and have shown on textual, archeological, astro-archeological, genetic mapping basis, that AIT/AMT was concocted by agenda-driven Indologists in the 19th century to justify the colonial agenda of "civilizing" the natives and in the process perpetrate economic looting and evangelize the masses and convert the heathens. The entire colonial project was to somehow divide the natives and rule them. They created so many fault lines in this society. "Aryan-Dravidian divide" was instrumental in telling the natives that "there is already a superior race from the West who brought Vedas and Sanskrit to the backward natives of this land, and this so-called "Aryan stock" has been diluted because of their mixing with the natives, so we are here to correct that and bring you the joys of real "Aryan civilization."" Now, how racist is that! So many traditional scholars (Listen to Late Bannanje Govindachraya, who gave us the in-depth understanding of all our sacred texts with his amazing knowledge acquired for almost 70 years!) have told us that "Arya" was not a description of a race or people. It was simply the way to address a noble person. Then why would you perpetuate this European-driven racist theory? Unfortunately, Indian scholars are still doing the colonizer's job of dividing this society. This "Aryans from outside" has started this whole "Dravidian movement" which could lead to secessionist movement in TN. Islamists justify subsequent invasion and oppression of Hindus by the brutal Turks by using this "Aryan Invasion" as a crutch to say, "hey, all upper caste Hindus are outsiders who oppressed the natives, and the Muslim rulers came as liberators of these natives..." This is so ridiculous, yet, Leftist intellectuals and their students believe this trope and continue to use this argument to the great detriment of Hindu society. So, please, recognize the existential threats these fictional stories pose and how they continue to weaken the Dharmic civilization. Avoid perpetuating these baseless theories. Categorically dismiss them. If not, we may come to a point in time, when there will be no Hindu-Vaidik civilization. Just as Zoroastrians were wiped out from present-day Iran by the predatory exclusive religion of the desert, India and Hindus will be wiped out. When it comes to our civilization, it is better to be paranoid of external and internal threats and stay vigilant. If not we will be relegated to museums. This precious way of life will be forever destroyed.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
@@nirvanabliss73 Yes I am also trying to understand the need of such a response. He should read a bit more than only listen to the likes of Raj Vedom. Maybe start researching about Indo European creation myths and relation to ancient Indian texts.
Am thoroughly dissappointed by the speakers opinion on the people of the vedic culture.........has dissuaded me from listening to the rest of this talk......however interesting it may be.........please ensure that public speakers are not spreading colonial opinions with or without intent.
Her narrative frighteningly resembles that of postmodernist and simplistic academicians/historians. Take it from me, someone shall soon challenge her regarding her interpretation/appproach. She has reduced everything down to human and material interpretation of our history. I can't believe she's reinforcing aryan migration/invasion theory and propounding that there was war between so-called natives and Aryans. It's astonishing that she shouldn't know that neither Aryans and Anaryans are tribal nomenclatures nor does the term Adivasi have roots in antiquity. Someone needs to bring this to Nityananda Misra's attention.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
The way you are explaining the Veda is so simple but through the glass of AMT! But, the truth is Aryans were indigenous people of Aryavrath ie. Bharat, not migrated from somewhere else. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, it is really enlightening.
Digestion,deracination & inculturation are known strategies of Christians Abrahamics just find few words in their whole history & texts & claim that its equivalent to vast philosophy developed over time immemorial with whole lineage & established tradition th-cam.com/video/ZYt7821z9Dg/w-d-xo.html These Westerners only exposed to Abrahamic ideology cant digest simple obvious fact that forest dwelling culture of abundance refined over the ageless continuum of the Indian civilization can naturally produce literary scientific advancements and a superior perennial philosophy
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Amazing discourse however with the best of intentions and scholarly knowledge, if the blinkers of biases are drawn, you will find no light. I really wished, madam hadn't entered into controversial topic of AIT and Aryan race. It is all hunkum bunkum and proved wrong beyond doubt. Sindhu civilisation is called as Saraswati civilisation and archeological finds have proved that post vedic culture people lived on banks of Saraswati. I really wished, madam had dwelled upon Rigveda directly. But at the same time the efforts by BORI, Infosys and Paranjape madam are commandable. Thanx.
This foundation is spreading rumours concocted by white men. Unfortunately some scholers attracted by money are giving credence to such propaganda by participating in programs conducted by Infosis.
@@srinivasarao7145 Very unfortunate, but true. Sad part is that our indic scholars are taking knowing, unknowing part in spreading this misinformation. Thanx.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Need of the hour is a course correction by BORI before it is too late. I had warned earlier too & Now many are pointing out issues with your lectures. Pls be open minded and try to shun colonialism, AIT and habit of viewing our scriptures from Western Lens. 🙏. #goodintentiononly
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
So before Aryan ..your telling that India tribes near Indus not had any language or culture 😢 they are migrants..Veda started in Vedic Indian tribes ..that’s why still it’s there
Sorry ,your Aryan Migration speculation is speculation at best.You don't align to archeologists like BB LAL,who decisively proves that People who built HARAPPAN Civilisation were the same people who created Veda.First you get clarity on that foundational aspect of Indic History.You equate Homa and Soma but you don't have any word for SARASWATI AND HAHARVATI.YOUR ARYAN FIXATION HAS TO BE DONE AWAY FIRST. Refer to FRAWLIAN DILEMMA.REJECTED.
Come here with lot of expectations and was very disappointed. Have to agree with many below comments regarding reference to Aryan invasion theory and was shocked hearing statements such as "Harappa and Mohenjo-daro are Pakistani cities". This institute and its faculty need to reexamine their framework in the light of recent research.
Thos is a wonderful set of videos .Unfortunately 3rd video is missing that is deali g with vedas other than rig veda.I request Bhandarkar institute to please add it and make it complete.
She is in bond by the scholarship of the western institute hence she says she “assumes” that aryans came from the steeps of Central Asia… she will be booted out if she does not assert that, even though there is no evidence of it… just like AIT, but after successfully refuting it from so many studies and research now no one dares to assert AIT… same will be needed to refute the “aryans” concept… it will take time. The shift is starting… will take time.
first minute when heard about infosys and i realised what it will be and in next 15 min i got it the colinised interpretatiin this will be. if a teacher from education system what else they would do? nithing new. this was going on from last 209 years and still continued spoiling minds of countrymen.
This seems to be the same old story planted by foreigners that of migration of intelligent civilized people from outside India into this country and dominating the affairs of this country. So in that case our Shiva was an arab, Vishnu from Europe. I am sorry.
After the esteemed speaker started her talk on AIT.. rather her support. My question on how is Infosys foundation supporting Indic institute is cleared. #leftist
I don't think they are leftists' rather, they are intellectuals that continue to operate with the blinders of colonial Indology still on. So, after promising to stay away from the politics of AIT, this speaker continues the narrative of the Vedas within the parameters of AIT.
Please do your research on 'BORI' ...If something doesn't fit your mindset then you people associate it with leftism . As a non leftist, I would not doubt 'BORI' research. They speak based on 'What's there' and She mentioned that she doesn't have idea about AIT . It might be right or wrong . But Why It should bother Indians today !!!
You guys should be ashamed of yourself. Any slight indication that deviates from your pre-conceived and fixed mindset, you'll immediately call them leftist, anti national, communist, urban naxal. Even if in future there is a super strong evidence that is reluctantly agreed by many experts that there was Aryan invasion, you will call your own family members as leftists. Have some academic integrity. Have some shame.
@@SatyaAnveshi Hey angry idiot, we do not have any preconceived and fixed mindset. What we do have is strong genetic and linguistic evidence. What you have instead is a completely false narrative which was invented by the british and other European "Scholars". Who had obvious and malignant motives. You say that "even if in future there is super strong evidence that is reluctantly agreed by many experts that there was Aryan invasion, you will call your own family members as leftists." What a joke ! There is a strong evidence against this false propaganda right now ! and you still don't change your mind. Looks like its you who has a fixed mindset. In the end I would just like to pray that may Maa Saraswati enlighten you and unshackle you from this enslaved/colonized false narrative.
Very interesting lecture and she kept the viewers engaged throughout her lecture, but sad part is the dating of Mahabharata and rig ved about 2500 year needs to be scientifically proven. How long are we going to depend on oratory skill which influences all other science. We are already facing one, the fakir
Nowadays everybody is claiming that what he or she says is science. Tomorrow You will claim Christ resurrection is science, Taliban claims that his aaka went to join 72 Hurreys straight from standing on a rock straight, from somewhere in the middle East. But you people question Indians first started first using ZERO. Because we are Indians. Even this leftist lecturer is repeating what her owners told her about " ARYANS " Afterall it is INFOSYS platform. LESSON : If we are not vigilant we will be taught our own (Distorted) history. Because BLACK MONEY MATTERS for some people.
@@srinivasarao7145 no sir bhandarkar oriental research institute is well-known institute with the oldest manuscripts Dr sucheta is a great scholar what she said is true recorded generations ago, and it is still intact u can go through topic called tocharians of china, they were Chinese Aryans
The lecture is too superficial to fit a narrative than factual.Tje origin as zorastrian is neither convincing not logical as if there was no fire at Adivasis.
Also the adivasis are the people of Harappan Civilization (because aryans came post IVC right)- one of the largest and smartest civilizations of that time.
I’m more interested in Upanishad part of the Vedas, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Vishnu focus sections of the Bhagavata Purana. I find Vedas I can’t connect deeply with oblations to Indra, Agni, Vayu, Aditi, Surya, Brahma. Its a bit difficult to follow for me, when I see Murti of Vishnu, or chant Ashtakshara Mantra I have a stronger self realisation of Atman. Or when I read Upanishads which discuss Brahman I have a better intuitive grasp on reality. Even Tattvabodha from Adi Shankara, which is nondualistic I can still have a intellectual grasp of his concepts. With Rig Veda, it flies over my head. There is no discussion of Atman and Brahman and Samkhya, Purusha Prakriti Vedanta stuff. Since Vedanta comes after. The Nyaya and Purva Mimamsa linguistics, Jungian Archetypes and anthropology is more relevant in interpreting Vedas, and I don’t have that grasp.
I would like to say about reasoning ( a question asked on) at the time of Rugveda creation...( though, I am not yet convinced with the say that Aaryas were outsiders!...it needs some more research..) ...rightly as Ma'am said, the then expressions, wether in the form of some script or oral/verbal ways, those used to be ("must be" looking at the very creative time and era of culture and language- formation) so genuine and spontaneous, which is again based on then existent reality, they were experiencing, interacting everyday with the Natural forces, calamities, and adapting with all in between all...and as a natural processing happens in the minds of the observer, experience holder, and a thinker, ( like contemplating and meditating ), one's consciousness or even of collective consciousness, becomes intuitive later on... ... reasons are the aftermaths of already established laws, afterthought, like if it's happenes/ed, how's so?,.. under what circumstances and parameters?...and all those possible "shanka- kushankas" while re-formulating the already existing phenomenon, in this case, someone else's truths, experienced by them in those circumstances, which is almost impossible to recreate in front of your own present mental, natural, even can say in front of your so much affected conscience's scenarios...the natural response never need logic...fire is fire, it burns!...so Ma'am is asking rightly to go beyond the "suktas, ruchaas" as script- the mere signs and try to understand ( I bet you can feel it too, if choose to be natural as human mental and emotional bundal))) the thoughts- the significance that Rugveda people lived with their then-own( genuinely personal) sensibilities... otherwise, Rugveda or any Veda are just the verbal corpse without the "praan"- the sensibilities they've created once lived by them! ...I am so much impressed by Hon.Paranjape Ma'am's beauuuutiful explaining with Rugveda!!!... that's how knowledge should be imparted, simply Chrystal-clear in day light!...Thanks Ma'am 🙏 😊💐
Initially I was impressed but slowly realized it is a Marxist view point. Nobody in Caucasia , Iran, Afghanistan has blonde hair.So if ushas is abstract, Hiranya Kesh could also be abstract. Rama is called blue colored. I am sure there is no human in blue. Not sure abt Avatar movie.😂 If they came from Iran, there is a direct route from Iran via Baluchistan(Bolan pass), why should they come via Kabul(Kubha river) 😊
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Greatly simplified. May I request learned like you to devise a simple method of teaching Sanskrit, not the AshTaadhyayi or Siddhant Kaumudi way. That would help spread the knowledge of Sanskrit and also ability to interpret even Vedic sanskrit. By the way reading ancient european history we find Aryans coming from east and the kings seeking their help to defeat their enemies. So one should look at that too. Also the fact of even last Persian King having title of "Aryameher" should also be considered. So migration could be reverse as Iceage set in and from Tibet Aryan tribes spread in both direction, India and Europe to Persia etc. Note they always chose riverside to settle down seek those lands from kings whom they helped. Also the fact the group of languiages along that route is called Indo European languages.
One of the things that dont fit in for AMT is that..there is no reference of migration in Rigveda. People usually have a deep connection with the land they originally belong to. Or it could be that by the time they had settled completely may be 500-1000years had passed. Sanskrit it the most complete form of Indo Aryan language..all others have a part of it..
In Rigveda it mentioned about yagya the offering, sacrifice in agni(fire), and worship Indra. Indra is mentioned mainly. So, did they not yet get divine revelation about Tridev the Bishnu, Brahma, Shiva because of what ? Initial vedic people didn't have divine revelation of Tridev, the Trinity. Besides, these rituals look like before Ĺord Rama and lord Krishna. These kind of analytical discussions and views are needed. Thanks.
Trinity is more of a later concept and my personal hypothesis they were personification of trigunas (Satva, Rajas and Tamas) from Sankhya. Maybe to make it easier to understand for the masses.
They do mention Vishnu (or Bishnu, if you prefer) in the Rigveda... many verses and Suktas are dedicated to him But the Vishnu of the Rigveda is different from our later idea of Vishnu as one of the Tridev At the time of the Rigveda, Vishnu as a dev was another way of worshipping the Sun... we wanted to worship very specific aspects of the Sun... about Sun's journey through the sky from dawn, to noon, to dusk... we worshipped this aspect in a poetic way by calling it Vishnu's 3 big steps Only later, people started to join this Vishnu dev together with Narayana dev, and he became the 1 single Vishnu-Narayana dev whom we know and love today. And this newer idea of Vishnu or Narayana we worship him as one of the Tridev And the 3 big steps of Vishnu changed into the 3 steps of Vamana Avatar, in the Mahabali story But yes, otherwise the Tridev was a later concept in Hinduism, and the Rigvedic people had not developed the concept yet
Please do not use the word Lord - short for Lord & Master - that makes us slaves This word comes from the west - Christianity & Islam are Master/Slave religions - "We must get down on our knees, swear loyalty(belief) & obedience to our master & only to our master, then he will be pleased and reward us(Heaven)" The easy good life the easy lazy way - the same way prostitutes/gigolos/leeches/freeloaders obtain the easy comfortable life - find a rich Sugar Daddy, praise him sky high and hope he throws them a bone Simple, primitive religions that view God as their ticket to the good life and they get it by begging and groveling down on their knees(Muslims do it 5 times a day & which is why I say we Hindus should not kneel to God in the Temple) We are not slaves of God but God's True Children - our place is by the side of God Rama, his arm around us Not down on the ground on our knees - that is for slaves
If there were no other country, then how there was India? Nation even Rashtra is a later construct hence it doesn't make sense to ask did Aryans came from outside India. If Homo Sapiens were not primarily evolving in this part of the world, all have come from outside. This obsession with national territory and consequent attempts to manufacture its History is the actual colonial gift. If it is attached with pride and politics of culture and religion, I don't think it's possible to actually preserve any tradition now.
😂I'm dumbfounded as to how such a highly educated and wise person could espouse such misinformation. Shame on Bhandarkar Institute to keep propagating the racist Aryan Invasion Theory of Max Muller, a Christian missionary who tried to fit the ancient history of India into Biblical context. This lady talks about Mahabharat and Ramayan and Veda Vyas which predate all this Indus valley and everything. What about Manu and the Dasrajna war? The Out of India theory is much much more backed by evidence than the stupid AIT.
Dear Sucheta Pranjape: Good lecture with some errors. Your statement on Big Bang was totally wrong; Newton had nothing to do with it. Just read the article in Wikipedia and clear it up. Never the less I enjoyed your lecture.
it's funny how people who haven't even touched Rigveda are passing judgements in the comment section on Dr. Paranjape's knowledge who dedicated her entire life to the propagation of Samskritam.
Nothing funny about it. None of the comments question her knowledge of Samskritam. Only the contextual framing of it. She even mentions this river is in Kabul.. so it is evident they lived them. So they come from there which implies Kabul was never part of Bharat - essential relegating Bharat to its present day borders.
How did those people who remained in Caucasus made/preserve fire? How did they cook food? According to this Madam Aryans learnt/innovated everything after coming to India. Why? How were they living at there own place (Caucasus) ? They crossed such a vast area during migration but didn't think of settling anywhere else. Why? Can she make stories on such questions also???
From Central Asia they spread to north Europe, west Asia, west China, and South Asia using horses found in steppe grasslands u can search Vedic period in TH-cam ancient history of India, u will get idea
Total nonsense! Rig Veda is compiled over thousands of years. Indra description starting 30 min mark as actual person as their ‘favorite hero’ is beyond ridiculous! 😂 Beyond debunked Aryan Invasion Theory the whole thing sounds good. But it’s not correct interpretation. Avoid, search others
And Aryans didn’t migrate from Iran, Infact, Iranians are distant brother of Aryans only . The line got separated sometime ago and they migrated towards Modern day Iran( sounds similar to Aryan , right?). Aryans in their most important text didn’t even mention about their so called ‘original’ homeland ? I wonder why ? 😅 They sang praises of local rivers of Indian subcontinent, especially Saraswati river .
Don't be to obsessive with Rig-Veda. Please do some work to promote Sam-Veda. As Lord Krishna has said in Bhagwat Geeta, "Among the Vedas, I'm the SamVeda". So, please promote the study of SamVeda, as youngster are losing interest in it.
Somewhat disappointed. Spirituality is the soul of our country since vedic times. The author lacks spiritual understanding. How can a sage comment on the origin of universe without spiritual understanding? Similarly, Agni, Soma, Indra and other gods have been described as omnipresent in Vedas. How can you justify relating them to only persons or physical things?
Good point from start that it is Mythology shows that Hindus beliefs are Myth .second Harappa n Mohenjo dare are pre Vedic ( which falsifies Ramayana n Mahabharata indirectly)and Aryans are from whom Hinduism came .This should be sufficient for South Indians like me to be vocal for Dravidian state free from the India belonging to Aryans n Hindus.
If Vedic Aryans came from West then today in there literature and practices not a single trace found…not even in there own literature or religion or cultural practices…so why you are pushing them on us Hindus…are you suggesting that Mahabharat and Ramayan is mythical…
Aryan migration theory has been thoroughly debunked. The lecture was good but is not updated with recent archeological discoveries, it seems. Mam said that a greater part of IVC lies in Pakistan. This is not true. Largest and oldest city is here in our India. More number of sites are discovered here in India and they lie along the bank of Saraswati which was even more important river than Indus . 🙂
She is purely incorrect about aryan invasion theory Please check Indic research Ved was purely Saravati civilisation She should improve knowledge and stop telling lies in public forms For all viewers please check sangam talks and Nilesh oak research
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing this. I don't agree with some of her points. But she did what she said she wants to with this talk which is remove my fear of delving into the veda.
it is a pity this indian company INFOSYS IS FUNDING THE SAME BRITISH THEORY AND falling down to the feet of white european lobbysts and american protestant groups , see what Danino , a french serious scholar has to say ; Danino says 1) “There is not one word in our scriptures, not one to prove that the Aryans ever came from anywhere outside India … the whole of India is Aryan, nothing else,” Swamiji had said. 2)NatureGeographical details also challenge the theory. “The Rig Veda has numerous references to ocean, ships, sailing, storms and waves, all of which invaders from Central Asia would not have known about,” noted Danino. 3)The archeological verdict turns out to be a negative, as well. “Had the Aryans migrated into India, we would expect some evidence of different tools, weapons, objects of daily use, pottery style and art forms, but that’s not the case,” said Danino. After more than a century of archeological investigations, there is still no evidence showing the arrival of new people in India. Due to mounting proof, archaeologists eventually dropped the Aryan Invasion Theory in favour of the concept of cultural continuity, between classical India and the Indus valley civilization. 4)During the past 10-15 years, several anthropological and genetic studies have emphasized a demographic continuity and a genomic unity in the Indian population. These experts, like archaeologists, also ruled out the arrival of new people. “It’s been concluded that all major components of the Indian populations have been settled here for some 40,000 years, at least,” said Danino. conclusion : “Despite such strong scientific evidence (and there is more in the fields of agriculture, archaeoastronomy, etc.), the Aryan invasion paradigm has become so entrenched in Western academia that it continues to be promoted even today,” quipped Danino. “In fact, India’s school textbooks also perpetuate the theory even though conclusive evidence shows there was no Aryan invasion.”
Sad to see how such great minds are still colonised and not updating with changes in the theory that aryans came from outside. May be this is how undercurrents operate.
Madam, you are requested to consider the views of Indic Researchers Nilesh Oak, Rupa Bhaty etc, regarding Rugvaidic period timeline in the light of many more disciplines light today. Thanks.
So this Lady means that incoming Aryans were vegetarians and learned eating meat after they started doing yagya rituals? The people who came from base of Caucasian Mountains were vegetarian? The people who came from Europe learned to make intoxicating drinks after they got settled in India ? People who came from Caucasian mountains had blond hairs so their leader was called Hirsnykeshi ? Man with Golden Hair? Indra ? Can she match DNA of a single indian with any Caucasian ? Does she know even in Maya Civilization, Egrlyptian Civilization, they worshipped fire ? They also worshipped many deities. Does she know even in Aztec Civilization they worshipped fire, morning, rains and many deities ? She's a lady Maxmuller. And the secret of that is in her Surname.
She is a Sanskrit Scholar but is a product of leftist ideology that thrust upon the independent India’s students the false theory of Aryan migration -from Caucasia to Bharat- propagated by the invading colonisers who wanted to legitimise there invasion by proving the Hindus as invading Aryans. She admits there is no archeological proof of Vedic civilisation. Therefore she justifies assuming we Hindus are not original children of this land. This means Bharat was a desolate piece of land in which the migratory Caucasians migrated and settled. But what archeological evidence she has of their migration? She doesn’t utter a word about that excepting citing the word Kubha for Kabul river to prove her case. Narayan Murthy has created a fund of some 500 crore rupees for study of Vedas etc and the job has been assigned to the likes of Pollock Sheltons and Wendy Donigers who are known india baiters and use their sanskrit scholarship as a weapon to prove this language as the root cause of bloodshed and poverty on the planet. The lady needs to be countered on her assumed migration theory.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
हे भाषण ऐकून इतकं समाधान झालं की कित्येक वर्षात असं समाधान मिळालेलं नाही . वेदांबद्दल खूप चुकीची माहिती आपल्याला दिली जाते . काही गुरू लोक त्यांच्या धंद्यासाठी ते वापरतात हे भाषण ऐकून कळले की त्यावेळच्या समाजात त्याबद्दल लिहिले गेलेले आहे.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
All the people who are attached to AOI theory please relax....just because people from steppe settled here they blended with the local population and we got a civilization that we can truly call our own.
Many Scholars will disagree with you, even some western ones are starting to doubt the OIT. Evidence shows continuity in civilization and development of Sanatan Dharma.
Is the speaker same one who is featuring in Intro to Upanishads by this channel...after seeing comments here, wondering if I should watch her in that series
Sau shrimati Suchetaji is a boon blessing to all us lay public who aspire to know what's hidden in our darshans purans sanskrit shastras but we are all entangled in rush rut of public sansarik life . Sadhuwaad to SHRI SUCHETAJI🌷🚩👌🙏
I started following this channel with so much expectation. But this lecture puts me iff completely. Aryan Invasion is by now not even a hypothesis, its a big lie. The speaker admits that there’s no evidence of this supposed migration, but deliberately keeps repeating “they came they came”. Actually, like the Income Tax site, we cannot expect anything good from the American Murthys anymore.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Started watching this with great interest , but when your talking about topics like aryan migration which is no where mentioned i decided to stop watching , Updating knowledge is important to stay relevant and. looks like u failed to. do so
Your English vdos are having less viewership comparatively marathi, pl make all these vdos in Marathi or Hindi. For your foreign viewers upload separate English vdos. The 🙏🚩
All Indians are interested to learn the Vedas, upanishats, aranyakams SCIENTIFICALLY. IN this rush world, I would like to learn the knowledge in the scriptures. I others may want to learn veduc chanting etc. Again the ignorance of Sanskrit hinders. What I like is to have is a systematic way to learn Sanskrit and Vedas and Hindu Satan's, I preferably LG y both direct and on line.
There is no commonality on English or Latin in Sanskrit…it tells me that you are peddling German lies on us…which they themselves have started to say and recognized Max Muller’s lies
IT IS A PITY THIS INDIAN TRUST INFOSYS IS EXECUTING THE HEGEMONICAL IMPERIAL AMERICAN PLAN TO MENTALLY MAKE INDIANS FEEL INFERIOR BY STEALING THEIR HERITAGE
If they were so good in literature did they claim in their literature that they are/were nomadic tribes? There are many mentions to river Parusni, Sutudri, Sarasvati, Yamuna but one mention to river near Kabul makes them Central Asians amazing logic?! If Migration really happened why these people chose to praise and describe and talk only of the land they adopted to settle but had not even a slightest inclination or nostalgia to talk about their history somewhere else this is foolishness!
The vedas talk of the history of the Sindhu-Saraswati region and not of the history of their own past somewhere in Central Asia are we that naive to believe still in Invasion-Migration Theory?
It's unfortunate that the learned people like her don't challenge these illminded theories of western scholars. We are still so mentally colonised by the west!
Digestion,deracination & inculturation are known strategies of Christians
Abrahamics just find few words in their whole history & texts & claim that its equivalent to vast philosophy developed over time immemorial with whole lineage & established tradition
th-cam.com/video/ZYt7821z9Dg/w-d-xo.html
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Scientific theories are not Western or Eastern. You can always provide evidence for your claims.
If they were so good in literature did they claim in their literature that they are/were nomadic tribes? There are many mentions to river Parusni, Sutudri, Sarasvati, Yamuna but one mention to river near Kabul makes them Central Asians amazing logic?! If Migration really happened why these people chose to praise and describe and talk only of the land they adopted to settle but had not even a slightest inclination or nostalgia to talk about their history somewhere else this is foolishness!
The vedas talk of the history of the Sindhu-Saraswati region and not of the history of their own past somewhere in Central Asia are we that naive to believe still in Invasion-Migration Theory?
It's unfortunate that the learned people like her don't challenge these illminded theories of western scholars. We are still so mentally colonised by the west!
Absolutely. If the theory was still in debate , Assuming from the point of aryan invasion theory is totally wrong.
Are you saying Indians came from some other country ? If you donot know don't tuch the subject of migrestion. Dont spread lies concocted by British impiearialists.
it is a pity this indian company INFOSYS IS FUNDING THE SAME BRITISH THEORY AND falling down to the feet of white european lobbysts and american protestant groups , see what Danino , a french serious scholar has to say ;
Danino says 1) “There is not one word in our scriptures, not one to prove that the Aryans ever came from anywhere outside India … the whole of India is Aryan, nothing else,” Swamiji had said.
2)NatureGeographical details also challenge the theory. “The Rig Veda has numerous references to ocean, ships, sailing, storms and waves, all of which invaders from Central Asia would not have known about,” noted Danino.
3)The archeological verdict turns out to be a negative, as well. “Had the Aryans migrated into India, we would expect some evidence of different tools, weapons, objects of daily use, pottery style and art forms, but that’s not the case,” said Danino. After more than a century of archeological investigations, there is still no evidence showing the arrival of new people in India.
Due to mounting proof, archaeologists eventually dropped the Aryan Invasion Theory in favour of the concept of cultural continuity, between classical India and the Indus valley civilization.
4)During the past 10-15 years, several anthropological and genetic studies have emphasized a demographic continuity and a genomic unity in the Indian population. These experts, like archaeologists, also ruled out the arrival of new people. “It’s been concluded that all major components of the Indian populations have been settled here for some 40,000 years, at least,” said Danino.
conclusion : “Despite such strong scientific evidence (and there is more in the fields of agriculture, archaeoastronomy, etc.), the Aryan invasion paradigm has become so entrenched in Western academia that it continues to be promoted even today,” quipped Danino.
“In fact, India’s school textbooks also perpetuate the theory even though conclusive evidence shows there was no Aryan invasion.”
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
You can always get a DNA test.
Very good lecture but only downside is explaining in the point of aryan invasion theory.
If we want to refer hymns as sukthas as it is our language and culture
why subscribe to aryan invasion theory, isn't it foreign to us? All prejudices.
Its really sad to see ...even so good learned lecturer subscribing to AIT and explaining interms of AIT
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Indus valley eas dravida ..
Hunnic gurjas are mleccha invasions ...no aryan invasion but hunnic mlecha invasion..mihirakula destroyed budhist religion
Madam your knowledge is out dated. The Aryan Invasion or migration theory stands disproved and you are describing it. The river Saraswathy is mentioned a number of times and to day we know from satellite photography and other methods that there existed a mighty river called Saraswathi and it was flowing parallel to the Sindhu which was like stream those days. The archaeological sites along the Saraswathi river bed outnumber those along the Sindu by 5 times. As an Indian you should not be peddling a theory proposed by foreigners with no evidence from the Indian side what so ever. Please update yourself.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Wonderful discourse on Rigveda. Apart from the reference to the Aryan Migration Theory which has been debunked, I found the lecture worth watching a second time since there's so much new information for me. I knew Rigveda is the very foundation of Sanatan Dharma but to actually get to know what it contains is an experience in itself.
I have tried to go through this lecture, but the continuous reference to Aryans, Indra as a golden haired European, Indians as aborigines, even talking about arctic home of the Aryans, this seems pretty directed. Looks like an opportunity to provide proofs for Aryan Migration theory.
@@kevin238in I can understand why that might appear to be so. Initially I too believed in the Aryan Invasion/Migration Theory until I came across research which highlighted all the flaws in it. So when I heard Dr Paranjape speak of the Aryans in the way she did, I assumed she is in the same position as I was a few years ago and perhaps isn't acquainted with recent research which is unfortunate. However, I enjoyed this video and also the rest in this series due to her elucidation on the various fascinating suktas, mandalas and Upanishads. Would recommend to all those interested on this subject.
aryan migration theory is completely true..hindu nationalists like rss are lying to the people of india.
@@angelboy2901 If you are so sure then Jaipur Dialogues is gifting more than 2 cr rupees to the one who can prove the theaory!
Extremely good lecture by Dr. Paranjape. However, I do not agree with her views on Aryan migration into India.
These are all refering to Vatican back maxmuller theory
IT IS A PITY THIS INDIAN TRUST INFOSYS IS EXECUTING THE HEGEMONICAL IMPERIAL AMERICAN PLAN TO MENTALLY MAKE INDIANS FEEL INFERIOR BY STEALING THEIR HERITAGE
I found it difficult to digest that all of Indus valley civilization relics are to be found in present day Pakistan. What about Dholavira in Gujarat then?? Also her take on Aryan invasion theory. She says there is no archeology evidence. She may like to see videos of Prof Vasant Shinde a world renowned archaeologist and his work on Rakhigarhi. Rest of her talk is brilliant
Rakhigarhi has nothing to do with the Aryan Migration. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakhigarhi
Prof Vasant Shinde supports Aryan Migration.
If someone favours AIT/AMT then their education is colonialists way of interpreting our history , please refresh and read about NILESH OAK and Dr RAJ VEDAM.
I would rather listen to solid scholars, properly trained, like the speaker than the pseudo-scholars being suggested. You shld too.
None of those are scholars. Shows your company and mindset.
@@vinsin328 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The lecture is good. Ma'm is a learned scholoar. However, there is no archaeological evidence of migration of Aryans to the Indian subcontinenet, rig Veda has no mention or memory of the migration. Mention of Sarasvati as a full flowing river and a host of other literary and linguistic facts prove that Aryans were indigenous. Then why go into that topic.
See this recent news article about RakhiGarhi th-cam.com/video/hJ9QMv7XOWQ/w-d-xo.html
True, but strong and repeted literary evidences (along, by the way, with some late pottery) are present.
Digestion,deracination & inculturation are known strategies of Christians
Abrahamics just find few words in their whole history & texts & claim that its equivalent to vast philosophy developed over time immemorial with whole lineage & established tradition
th-cam.com/video/ZYt7821z9Dg/w-d-xo.html
These Westerners only exposed to Abrahamic ideology cant digest simple obvious fact that forest dwelling culture of abundance refined over the ageless continuum of the Indian civilization can naturally produce literary scientific advancements and a superior perennial philosophy
Absolutely Right but we INDIANS are happy when we own something FOREIGN, just like Imported goods
aryan is wrong word because no one traditional have the name aryan we have group name jeevathmas (soul)we have only in individual names for our body not for soul and we have come from sachidhanadham(Lord one who with beauty Ghana and
happiness)
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
A lowly way of describing a great culture of knowledge. Most of the concepts are trivialized to the core. esp the aryan migration, soma as an intoxicant, the idea of creation of new gods etc...
this should not be an introduction to Rig Veda, rather an introduction to the mindset of the speaker
Perfectly put ! I have expressed the same concerns in my comment. It's really baffling she should harbour all such beliefs.
Do you even know sanskrit. Don't be sentimental be rational
@@sukeshpabolu3453 how do you intend to verify my abilities in Sanskrit
And btw is rig Vedic language even paninian Sanskrit..
A rational mind will try to think from the perspective of the Rshis and not from one's own dull mindset
The veryfoundation on which this presentation is made is from.the point of view, that they have excepted AIT, and from that point on it is just an oration in praise of that point of view. And in doing so, culture essence has been diluted.....
what exactly are you saying?
@@nirvanabliss73 I was indicating that times have advanced and AIT and Steppe theories have been confronted successfully by Some devoted Enthusiasts and wonderful intellectuals. It is futile to keep beating around the old bush.
@@PSVVinodKumar she is not talking about AIT
@@nirvanabliss73 yes I know, but the sum total of message comes from the stand point of AIT.
@@PSVVinodKumar No, that is not right. Invasion is different from migration. Saying 'I migrated from Maharashtra to Tamil Nadu' is very different from saying 'I invaded Tamil Nadu'
Those days when Vedas get developed there was no Pakistan and if we people say it was Pakistani city we are throwing our rights on Vedas. Pakistani are already trying to claim on yoga's showing Sindhu as Pakistani river
Even if originated are they doing anything to preserve or prosper it?
Totally agree with you.
I agree
@@shilpaabhyankar7744Right.
Please do not use word mythology, it is not just a myth this are very logical and scientific scriptures🙏🏻
Khas baat yeh hai - jo Vedas Ko padate hai wo hi secular mindset se pabhavit hai
Thank you for saying that - I have been saying that also
The British started using this word - of course our Gods are false and so our religion is false and so our stories are myths, our religion is not really a religion
It is sad to see Hindus blindly continue to use this word - shows that we are still slaves
@@ramaraksha01 Myth does mean false. Many Hindus follow Brahmavad.
@@vinsin328 It is interesting that this word comes from the west - THEIR stories are Religious stories, OURS are mythological stories
We still remain 2nd class people when we blindly use such words for our faith, our Religion
First, I will pay my respect to the "teacher" in Paranjpe ji. She is fluent and very articulate and her erudition is quite impressive.
But it is deeply disappointing to hear her start with "Vedic Aryans were from the foothills of Caucuses..." Yes, I know she did say, this is a controversial topic and there is no evidence to say Aryans were from outside the Indian subcontinent. Point is, if there is no evidence, then don't make the mistake of perpetuating a very divisive theory about this Aryan Invasion or migration. Stay clear from it.
I am not a scholar. I am just a person keen on civilizational issues. Right from Srikant Talageri, N S Rajaram, Koenraad Elst, to Dr. Lavanya Vemsani, Raj Vedam Nilesh Oak and so many others have rigorously argued and have shown on textual, archeological, astro-archeological, genetic mapping basis, that AIT/AMT was concocted by agenda-driven Indologists in the 19th century to justify the colonial agenda of "civilizing" the natives and in the process perpetrate economic looting and evangelize the masses and convert the heathens.
The entire colonial project was to somehow divide the natives and rule them. They created so many fault lines in this society. "Aryan-Dravidian divide" was instrumental in telling the natives that "there is already a superior race from the West who brought Vedas and Sanskrit to the backward natives of this land, and this so-called "Aryan stock" has been diluted because of their mixing with the natives, so we are here to correct that and bring you the joys of real "Aryan civilization.""
Now, how racist is that! So many traditional scholars (Listen to Late Bannanje Govindachraya, who gave us the in-depth understanding of all our sacred texts with his amazing knowledge acquired for almost 70 years!) have told us that "Arya" was not a description of a race or people. It was simply the way to address a noble person. Then why would you perpetuate this European-driven racist theory?
Unfortunately, Indian scholars are still doing the colonizer's job of dividing this society. This "Aryans from outside" has started this whole "Dravidian movement" which could lead to secessionist movement in TN. Islamists justify subsequent invasion and oppression of Hindus by the brutal Turks by using this "Aryan Invasion" as a crutch to say, "hey, all upper caste Hindus are outsiders who oppressed the natives, and the Muslim rulers came as liberators of these natives..." This is so ridiculous, yet, Leftist intellectuals and their students believe this trope and continue to use this argument to the great detriment of Hindu society.
So, please, recognize the existential threats these fictional stories pose and how they continue to weaken the Dharmic civilization. Avoid perpetuating these baseless theories. Categorically dismiss them. If not, we may come to a point in time, when there will be no Hindu-Vaidik civilization. Just as Zoroastrians were wiped out from present-day Iran by the predatory exclusive religion of the desert, India and Hindus will be wiped out. When it comes to our civilization, it is better to be paranoid of external and internal threats and stay vigilant. If not we will be relegated to museums. This precious way of life will be forever destroyed.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Can't understand what your problem is?
@@proudindian1473 ?? I am trying to understand what Praveen is saying exactly
@@nirvanabliss73 Yes I am also trying to understand the need of such a response. He should read a bit more than only listen to the likes of Raj Vedom. Maybe start researching about Indo European creation myths and relation to ancient Indian texts.
Am thoroughly dissappointed by the speakers opinion on the people of the vedic culture.........has dissuaded me from listening to the rest of this talk......however interesting it may be.........please ensure that public speakers are not spreading colonial opinions with or without intent.
No mam migration was common back then Dravidian speakers were also migrated from Persia Zagros Mountains
Her narrative frighteningly resembles that of postmodernist and simplistic academicians/historians. Take it from me, someone shall soon challenge her regarding her interpretation/appproach. She has reduced everything down to human and material interpretation of our history. I can't believe she's reinforcing aryan migration/invasion theory and propounding that there was war between so-called natives and Aryans. It's astonishing that she shouldn't know that neither Aryans and Anaryans are tribal nomenclatures nor does the term Adivasi have roots in antiquity.
Someone needs to bring this to Nityananda Misra's attention.
It's very true. Sad to see our researchers so determined to believe Aryan theory and go out of their way to teach it to the masses
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
The way you are explaining the Veda is so simple but through the glass of AMT! But, the truth is Aryans were indigenous people of Aryavrath ie. Bharat, not migrated from somewhere else. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, it is really enlightening.
Digestion,deracination & inculturation are known strategies of Christians
Abrahamics just find few words in their whole history & texts & claim that its equivalent to vast philosophy developed over time immemorial with whole lineage & established tradition
th-cam.com/video/ZYt7821z9Dg/w-d-xo.html
These Westerners only exposed to Abrahamic ideology cant digest simple obvious fact that forest dwelling culture of abundance refined over the ageless continuum of the Indian civilization can naturally produce literary scientific advancements and a superior perennial philosophy
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Instead of blabbering unnecessary things show us the evidence that Aryans didn't migrate to India
@@sukeshpabolu3453 they claim everything but, they prove nothing...
@@rationalistabhinav1406 They care only about Sentiments
Amazing discourse however with the best of intentions and scholarly knowledge, if the blinkers of biases are drawn, you will find no light. I really wished, madam hadn't entered into controversial topic of AIT and Aryan race. It is all hunkum bunkum and proved wrong beyond doubt. Sindhu civilisation is called as Saraswati civilisation and archeological finds have proved that post vedic culture people lived on banks of Saraswati. I really wished, madam had dwelled upon Rigveda directly. But at the same time the efforts by BORI, Infosys and Paranjape madam are commandable. Thanx.
This foundation is spreading rumours concocted by white men. Unfortunately some scholers attracted by money are giving credence to such propaganda by participating in programs conducted by Infosis.
@@srinivasarao7145 Very unfortunate, but true. Sad part is that our indic scholars are taking knowing, unknowing part in spreading this misinformation. Thanx.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Thank you for conducting in English. We from Tamilnadu are Very fortunate to understand because of that. - Ramkumar
Need of the hour is a course correction by BORI before it is too late. I had warned earlier too & Now many are pointing out issues with your lectures. Pls be open minded and try to shun colonialism, AIT and habit of viewing our scriptures from Western Lens. 🙏. #goodintentiononly
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
So before Aryan ..your telling that India tribes near Indus not had any language or culture 😢 they are migrants..Veda started in Vedic Indian tribes ..that’s why still it’s there
Sorry ,your Aryan Migration speculation is speculation at best.You don't align to archeologists like BB LAL,who decisively proves that People who built HARAPPAN Civilisation were the same people who created Veda.First you get clarity on that foundational aspect of Indic History.You equate Homa and Soma but you don't have any word for SARASWATI AND HAHARVATI.YOUR ARYAN FIXATION HAS TO BE DONE AWAY FIRST.
Refer to FRAWLIAN DILEMMA.REJECTED.
Aryan invasion theory is amply proved that it is a vested interest theory .
Come here with lot of expectations and was very disappointed. Have to agree with many below comments regarding reference to Aryan invasion theory and was shocked hearing statements such as "Harappa and Mohenjo-daro are Pakistani cities". This institute and its faculty need to reexamine their framework in the light of recent research.
Thos is a wonderful set of videos .Unfortunately 3rd video is missing that is deali g with vedas other than rig veda.I request Bhandarkar institute to please add it and make it complete.
are we still going on with this aryan theories? shame.
Unless new robust theory comes ..
Shame on you!
@@vinayakdegwekar7628 why?
Because Indo Aryan migration theory is supported by robust genetic and linguistic evidence
@@yj9032 which evidence is that? I'm yet to find one
While it’s interesting to know the basis of Sanskrit to literal culture meaning . The premise of Arya having come from somewhere else is speculatory
She is in bond by the scholarship of the western institute hence she says she “assumes” that aryans came from the steeps of Central Asia… she will be booted out if she does not assert that, even though there is no evidence of it… just like AIT, but after successfully refuting it from so many studies and research now no one dares to assert AIT… same will be needed to refute the “aryans” concept… it will take time. The shift is starting… will take time.
It seems that she believes in Aryan migration (may be worse the Aryan invasion) in her starting portion of speech.
first minute when heard about infosys and i realised what it will be and in next 15 min i got it the colinised interpretatiin this will be. if a teacher from education system what else they would do? nithing new. this was going on from last 209 years and still continued spoiling minds of countrymen.
This seems to be the same old story planted by foreigners that of migration of intelligent civilized people from outside India into this country and dominating the affairs of this country. So in that case our Shiva was an arab, Vishnu from Europe. I am sorry.
No they were not civilized thats what she said they were nomadic tribes we civilized them
After the esteemed speaker started her talk on AIT.. rather her support. My question on how is Infosys foundation supporting Indic institute is cleared. #leftist
It is precisely why it was done; Infosys foundation is a big supporter of these lefties. So I am not surprised at all
I don't think they are leftists' rather, they are intellectuals that continue to operate with the blinders of colonial Indology still on. So, after promising to stay away from the politics of AIT, this speaker continues the narrative of the Vedas within the parameters of AIT.
Please do your research on 'BORI' ...If something doesn't fit your mindset then you people associate it with leftism .
As a non leftist, I would not doubt 'BORI' research. They speak based on 'What's there' and She mentioned that she doesn't have idea about AIT . It might be right or wrong . But Why It should bother Indians today !!!
You guys should be ashamed of yourself. Any slight indication that deviates from your pre-conceived and fixed mindset, you'll immediately call them leftist, anti national, communist, urban naxal.
Even if in future there is a super strong evidence that is reluctantly agreed by many experts that there was Aryan invasion, you will call your own family members as leftists.
Have some academic integrity. Have some shame.
@@SatyaAnveshi Hey angry idiot, we do not have any preconceived and fixed mindset. What we do have is strong genetic and linguistic evidence. What you have instead is a completely false narrative which was invented by the british and other European "Scholars". Who had obvious and malignant motives.
You say that "even if in future there is super strong evidence that is reluctantly agreed by many experts that there was Aryan invasion, you will call your own family members as leftists."
What a joke ! There is a strong evidence against this false propaganda right now ! and you still don't change your mind. Looks like its you who has a fixed mindset.
In the end I would just like to pray that may Maa Saraswati enlighten you and unshackle you from this enslaved/colonized false narrative.
Dhanyawad madam. This is life time tapascharya of infinite generations due to which it survived. I am lucky to hear you on the topic,
Perfect example of colonized mind flaunting intellectual "brilliance".
Can't believe BORI is promoting it!
God bless them!
Madam, मराठी मध्ये असेल तर कृपा करून share करा, आम्हाला इंग्लिश मध्ये इतका समजत नाही
i am amazed to see that the speaker starts with AIT !! so erroneous.
Can you write to her?
Very interesting lecture and she kept the viewers engaged throughout her lecture, but sad part is the dating of Mahabharata and rig ved about 2500 year needs to be scientifically proven. How long are we going to depend on oratory skill which influences all other science. We are already facing one, the fakir
You can see you tube channel of Nilesh Oak and sattalogy, for more information.
Nowadays everybody is claiming that what he or she says is science. Tomorrow You will claim Christ resurrection is science, Taliban claims that his aaka went to join 72 Hurreys straight from standing on a rock straight, from somewhere in the middle East. But you people question Indians first started first using ZERO. Because we are Indians.
Even this leftist lecturer is repeating what her owners told her about " ARYANS " Afterall it is INFOSYS platform. LESSON : If we are not vigilant we will be taught our own (Distorted) history. Because BLACK MONEY MATTERS for some people.
@@srinivasarao7145 no sir bhandarkar oriental research institute is well-known institute with the oldest manuscripts
Dr sucheta is a great scholar what she said is true recorded generations ago, and it is still intact
u can go through topic called tocharians of china, they were Chinese Aryans
Unfortunately the whole reference to aryan invasion myth has left a poor taste
Dr. Paranjpe is indeed a very learned person. She spoke extempore continuously for over 2 hours. Very informative talk. Excellent initiative by BORI!
Mam, you must be vidushi in your one of the past life.
Bhandarkar Institute should invite Shrikant Talageri Ji to expand and correct their perspective
Who is he? Ask him to apply for a job. Also, Bhandarkar Institute does not work on perspectives.
@@vinsin328 😄😄😃Seems like they don't work on facts either LOL and keep your hubris and ignorance in check. Like they say before fall comes pride.😊
She is still colonized in her mind. Can watch it past 5 minutes.. looks like repeating western guess work of Bharat civilization...
Rubbish. Strange comment .
@@purushotammujumdar3066u are an Ignorant Troll... 🤣🤣... Do some reading... n STOP BLINDLY trusting such Communist Aunties... 🤣🤣🤣
U r Spot on AnujPaliwal
The lecture is too superficial to fit a narrative than factual.Tje origin as zorastrian is neither convincing not logical as if there was no fire at Adivasis.
Also the adivasis are the people of Harappan Civilization (because aryans came post IVC right)- one of the largest and smartest civilizations of that time.
Aryan invasion theory is bogus.
I’m more interested in Upanishad part of the Vedas, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Vishnu focus sections of the Bhagavata Purana. I find Vedas I can’t connect deeply with oblations to Indra, Agni, Vayu, Aditi, Surya, Brahma. Its a bit difficult to follow for me, when I see Murti of Vishnu, or chant Ashtakshara Mantra I have a stronger self realisation of Atman. Or when I read Upanishads which discuss Brahman I have a better intuitive grasp on reality. Even Tattvabodha from Adi Shankara, which is nondualistic I can still have a intellectual grasp of his concepts. With Rig Veda, it flies over my head. There is no discussion of Atman and Brahman and Samkhya, Purusha Prakriti Vedanta stuff. Since Vedanta comes after. The Nyaya and Purva Mimamsa linguistics, Jungian Archetypes and anthropology is more relevant in interpreting Vedas, and I don’t have that grasp.
I would like to say about reasoning ( a question asked on) at the time of Rugveda creation...( though, I am not yet convinced with the say that Aaryas were outsiders!...it needs some more research..)
...rightly as Ma'am said, the then expressions, wether in the form of some script or oral/verbal ways, those used to be ("must be" looking at the very creative time and era of culture and language- formation) so genuine and spontaneous, which is again based on then existent reality, they were experiencing, interacting everyday with the Natural forces, calamities, and adapting with all in between all...and as a natural processing happens in the minds of the observer, experience holder, and a thinker, ( like contemplating and meditating ), one's consciousness or even of collective consciousness, becomes intuitive later on...
... reasons are the aftermaths of already established laws, afterthought, like if it's happenes/ed, how's so?,.. under what circumstances and parameters?...and all those possible "shanka- kushankas" while re-formulating the already existing phenomenon, in this case, someone else's truths, experienced by them in those circumstances, which is almost impossible to recreate in front of your own present mental, natural, even can say in front of your so much affected conscience's scenarios...the natural response never need logic...fire is fire, it burns!...so Ma'am is asking rightly to go beyond the "suktas, ruchaas" as script- the mere signs and try to understand ( I bet you can feel it too, if choose to be natural as human mental and emotional bundal))) the thoughts- the significance that Rugveda people lived with their then-own( genuinely personal) sensibilities... otherwise, Rugveda or any Veda are just the verbal corpse without the "praan"- the sensibilities they've created once lived by them!
...I am so much impressed by Hon.Paranjape Ma'am's beauuuutiful explaining with Rugveda!!!... that's how knowledge should be imparted, simply Chrystal-clear in day light!...Thanks Ma'am 🙏 😊💐
Initially I was impressed but slowly realized it is a Marxist view point. Nobody in Caucasia , Iran, Afghanistan has blonde hair.So if ushas is abstract, Hiranya Kesh could also be abstract. Rama is called blue colored. I am sure there is no human in blue. Not sure abt Avatar movie.😂 If they came from Iran, there is a direct route from Iran via Baluchistan(Bolan pass), why should they come via Kabul(Kubha river) 😊
Very interesting explanation of the eternal Vedas. Though I differ with the AIT.
You can see you tube channel of Nilesh Oak and sattalogy, for more information.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Greatly simplified. May I request learned like you to devise a simple method of teaching Sanskrit, not the AshTaadhyayi or Siddhant Kaumudi way. That would help spread the knowledge of Sanskrit and also ability to interpret even Vedic sanskrit. By the way reading ancient european history we find Aryans coming from east and the kings seeking their help to defeat their enemies. So one should look at that too. Also the fact of even last Persian King having title of "Aryameher" should also be considered. So migration could be reverse as Iceage set in and from Tibet Aryan tribes spread in both direction, India and Europe to Persia etc. Note they always chose riverside to settle down seek those lands from kings whom they helped. Also the fact the group of languiages along that route is called Indo European languages.
One of the things that dont fit in for AMT is that..there is no reference of migration in Rigveda. People usually have a deep connection with the land they originally belong to. Or it could be that by the time they had settled completely may be 500-1000years had passed. Sanskrit it the most complete form of Indo Aryan language..all others have a part of it..
In Rigveda it mentioned about yagya the offering, sacrifice in agni(fire), and worship Indra. Indra is mentioned mainly. So, did they not yet get divine revelation about Tridev the Bishnu, Brahma, Shiva because of what ? Initial vedic people didn't have divine revelation of Tridev, the Trinity. Besides, these rituals look like before Ĺord Rama and lord Krishna. These kind of analytical discussions and views are needed.
Thanks.
Trinity is more of a later concept and my personal hypothesis they were personification of trigunas (Satva, Rajas and Tamas) from Sankhya. Maybe to make it easier to understand for the masses.
They do mention Vishnu (or Bishnu, if you prefer) in the Rigveda... many verses and Suktas are dedicated to him
But the Vishnu of the Rigveda is different from our later idea of Vishnu as one of the Tridev
At the time of the Rigveda, Vishnu as a dev was another way of worshipping the Sun... we wanted to worship very specific aspects of the Sun... about Sun's journey through the sky from dawn, to noon, to dusk... we worshipped this aspect in a poetic way by calling it Vishnu's 3 big steps
Only later, people started to join this Vishnu dev together with Narayana dev, and he became the 1 single Vishnu-Narayana dev whom we know and love today. And this newer idea of Vishnu or Narayana we worship him as one of the Tridev
And the 3 big steps of Vishnu changed into the 3 steps of Vamana Avatar, in the Mahabali story
But yes, otherwise the Tridev was a later concept in Hinduism, and the Rigvedic people had not developed the concept yet
Please do not use the word Lord - short for Lord & Master - that makes us slaves
This word comes from the west - Christianity & Islam are Master/Slave religions - "We must get down on our knees, swear loyalty(belief) & obedience to our master & only to our master, then he will be pleased and reward us(Heaven)"
The easy good life the easy lazy way - the same way prostitutes/gigolos/leeches/freeloaders obtain the easy comfortable life - find a rich Sugar Daddy, praise him sky high and hope he throws them a bone
Simple, primitive religions that view God as their ticket to the good life and they get it by begging and groveling down on their knees(Muslims do it 5 times a day & which is why I say we Hindus should not kneel to God in the Temple)
We are not slaves of God but God's True Children - our place is by the side of God Rama, his arm around us
Not down on the ground on our knees - that is for slaves
If there were no other country, then how there was India? Nation even Rashtra is a later construct hence it doesn't make sense to ask did Aryans came from outside India. If Homo Sapiens were not primarily evolving in this part of the world, all have come from outside. This obsession with national territory and consequent attempts to manufacture its History is the actual colonial gift. If it is attached with pride and politics of culture and religion, I don't think it's possible to actually preserve any tradition now.
😂I'm dumbfounded as to how such a highly educated and wise person could espouse such misinformation. Shame on Bhandarkar Institute to keep propagating the racist Aryan Invasion Theory of Max Muller, a Christian missionary who tried to fit the ancient history of India into Biblical context. This lady talks about Mahabharat and Ramayan and Veda Vyas which predate all this Indus valley and everything. What about Manu and the Dasrajna war? The Out of India theory is much much more backed by evidence than the stupid AIT.
Dear Sucheta Pranjape: Good lecture with some errors. Your statement on Big Bang was totally wrong; Newton had nothing to do with it. Just read the article in Wikipedia and clear it up. Never the less I enjoyed your lecture.
@Vijay Kumar Regardless, Newton still did not take part in developing our knowledge/understanding of the Big Bang
it's funny how people who haven't even touched Rigveda are passing judgements in the comment section on Dr. Paranjape's knowledge who dedicated her entire life to the propagation of Samskritam.
Nothing funny about it. None of the comments question her knowledge of Samskritam. Only the contextual framing of it. She even mentions this river is in Kabul.. so it is evident they lived them. So they come from there which implies Kabul was never part of Bharat - essential relegating Bharat to its present day borders.
How did those people who remained in Caucasus made/preserve fire? How did they cook food? According to this Madam Aryans learnt/innovated everything after coming to India. Why? How were they living at there own place (Caucasus) ? They crossed such a vast area during migration but didn't think of settling anywhere else. Why? Can she make stories on such questions also???
From Central Asia they spread to north Europe, west Asia, west China, and South Asia using horses found in steppe grasslands
u can search Vedic period in TH-cam ancient history of India, u will get idea
I starred loving rigweda and wish to study it thoroughly in my mother tongue that is in marathi. Madam please guide me
Total nonsense! Rig Veda is compiled over thousands of years. Indra description starting 30 min mark as actual person as their ‘favorite hero’ is beyond ridiculous! 😂
Beyond debunked Aryan Invasion Theory the whole thing sounds good. But it’s not correct interpretation. Avoid, search others
And Aryans didn’t migrate from Iran, Infact, Iranians are distant brother of Aryans only . The line got separated sometime ago and they migrated towards Modern day Iran( sounds similar to Aryan , right?).
Aryans in their most important text didn’t even mention about their so called ‘original’ homeland ? I wonder why ? 😅
They sang praises of local rivers of Indian subcontinent, especially Saraswati river .
Don't be to obsessive with Rig-Veda. Please do some work to promote Sam-Veda.
As Lord Krishna has said in Bhagwat Geeta, "Among the Vedas, I'm the SamVeda".
So, please promote the study of SamVeda, as youngster are losing interest in it.
Somewhat disappointed. Spirituality is the soul of our country since vedic times. The author lacks spiritual understanding. How can a sage comment on the origin of universe without spiritual understanding? Similarly, Agni, Soma, Indra and other gods have been described as omnipresent in Vedas. How can you justify relating them to only persons or physical things?
Good point from start that it is Mythology shows that Hindus beliefs are Myth .second Harappa n Mohenjo dare are pre Vedic ( which falsifies Ramayana n Mahabharata indirectly)and Aryans are from whom Hinduism came .This should be sufficient for South Indians like me to be vocal for Dravidian state free from the India belonging to Aryans n Hindus.
If Vedic Aryans came from West then today in there literature and practices not a single trace found…not even in there own literature or religion or cultural practices…so why you are pushing them on us Hindus…are you suggesting that Mahabharat and Ramayan is mythical…
Aryan migration theory has been thoroughly debunked. The lecture was good but is not updated with recent archeological discoveries, it seems. Mam said that a greater part of IVC lies in Pakistan. This is not true. Largest and oldest city is here in our India. More number of sites are discovered here in India and they lie along the bank of Saraswati which was even more important river than Indus . 🙂
She is purely incorrect about aryan invasion theory
Please check Indic research
Ved was purely Saravati civilisation
She should improve knowledge and stop telling lies in public forms
For all viewers please check sangam talks and Nilesh oak research
Wrong. It was vice versa. Aryans were south Indian brahmins whose ancestors settled down in the banks of river Saraswati wrote down the Vedas .
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing this. I don't agree with some of her points. But she did what she said she wants to with this talk which is remove my fear of delving into the veda.
it is a pity this indian company INFOSYS IS FUNDING THE SAME BRITISH THEORY AND falling down to the feet of white european lobbysts and american protestant groups , see what Danino , a french serious scholar has to say ;
Danino says 1) “There is not one word in our scriptures, not one to prove that the Aryans ever came from anywhere outside India … the whole of India is Aryan, nothing else,” Swamiji had said.
2)NatureGeographical details also challenge the theory. “The Rig Veda has numerous references to ocean, ships, sailing, storms and waves, all of which invaders from Central Asia would not have known about,” noted Danino.
3)The archeological verdict turns out to be a negative, as well. “Had the Aryans migrated into India, we would expect some evidence of different tools, weapons, objects of daily use, pottery style and art forms, but that’s not the case,” said Danino. After more than a century of archeological investigations, there is still no evidence showing the arrival of new people in India.
Due to mounting proof, archaeologists eventually dropped the Aryan Invasion Theory in favour of the concept of cultural continuity, between classical India and the Indus valley civilization.
4)During the past 10-15 years, several anthropological and genetic studies have emphasized a demographic continuity and a genomic unity in the Indian population. These experts, like archaeologists, also ruled out the arrival of new people. “It’s been concluded that all major components of the Indian populations have been settled here for some 40,000 years, at least,” said Danino.
conclusion : “Despite such strong scientific evidence (and there is more in the fields of agriculture, archaeoastronomy, etc.), the Aryan invasion paradigm has become so entrenched in Western academia that it continues to be promoted even today,” quipped Danino.
“In fact, India’s school textbooks also perpetuate the theory even though conclusive evidence shows there was no Aryan invasion.”
Srusti was existence and non existent means it was in potential form, according to my knowledge.
Sad to see how such great minds are still colonised and not updating with changes in the theory that aryans came from outside. May be this is how undercurrents operate.
There is a typo error in the thumbnail image, you can fix this
Good lecture otherwise
Very good narration and explanations. BORI is doing the commendable job of preserving ancient Hindu knowledge and wisdom.
I an 80 yrs. Old. My glad very much that the such serial has been started of our verdant. My hearty best wishes. Thanks very much.
Madam, you are requested to consider the views of Indic Researchers Nilesh Oak, Rupa Bhaty etc, regarding Rugvaidic period timeline in the light of many more disciplines light today. Thanks.
Nilesh Oak is not a researcher.
Why Indians tell ly than truth, by listening to you I am confused
So this Lady means that incoming Aryans were vegetarians and learned eating meat after they started doing yagya rituals?
The people who came from base of Caucasian Mountains were vegetarian?
The people who came from Europe learned to make intoxicating drinks after they got settled in India ?
People who came from Caucasian mountains had blond hairs so their leader was called Hirsnykeshi ? Man with Golden Hair? Indra ?
Can she match DNA of a single indian with any Caucasian ?
Does she know even in Maya Civilization, Egrlyptian Civilization, they worshipped fire ? They also worshipped many deities.
Does she know even in Aztec Civilization they worshipped fire, morning, rains and many deities ?
She's a lady Maxmuller.
And the secret of that is in her Surname.
no they were non vegetarian they became vegan when they came to south asia
they brought ganja canabis to south asia
She is a Sanskrit Scholar but is a product of leftist ideology that thrust upon the independent India’s students the false theory of Aryan migration -from Caucasia to Bharat- propagated by the invading colonisers who wanted to legitimise there invasion by proving the Hindus as invading Aryans. She admits there is no archeological proof of Vedic civilisation. Therefore she justifies assuming we Hindus are not original children of this land. This means Bharat was a desolate piece of land in which the migratory Caucasians migrated and settled. But what archeological evidence she has of their migration? She doesn’t utter a word about that excepting citing the word Kubha for Kabul river to prove her case. Narayan Murthy has created a fund of some 500 crore rupees for study of Vedas etc and the job has been assigned to the likes of Pollock Sheltons and Wendy Donigers who are known india baiters and use their sanskrit scholarship as a weapon to prove this language as the root cause of bloodshed and poverty on the planet. The lady needs to be countered on her assumed migration theory.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
हे भाषण ऐकून इतकं समाधान झालं की कित्येक वर्षात असं समाधान मिळालेलं नाही . वेदांबद्दल खूप चुकीची माहिती आपल्याला दिली जाते . काही गुरू लोक त्यांच्या धंद्यासाठी ते वापरतात हे भाषण ऐकून कळले की त्यावेळच्या समाजात त्याबद्दल लिहिले गेलेले आहे.
AIT is all incorrect, wish she had not touched upon this
it was not invasion it was migration it was common back then
@@tsukiyomi4133 migration from where
@@gitam-z9t Kazakhstan (andronovo culture) > Afghanistan (bagtria marginaya culture) > indus valley and ganga valley (north west india)
it was common back then dravidians were also migrated from persia (zagros mountains ) Elam
We are Aryans and we are living here from the beginning. Stop saying we have migratate. 🙏🏻 AUM
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
Hats Off . Wanted to know Rigveda. A Great Help. U have a Ocean of Knowledge. Namaskaarams.
28:27 is most imp and enough to destroy Hinduism what an idiot feeling proud of people who raped us shame.
Very beautiful explanation Thank you madam
All the people who are attached to AOI theory please relax....just because people from steppe settled here they blended with the local population and we got a civilization that we can truly call our own.
your statement is factually incorrect.
Many Scholars will disagree with you, even some western ones are starting to doubt the OIT. Evidence shows continuity in civilization and development of Sanatan Dharma.
Wish it was really so.... How about the records showing that it was people from indian land who migrated to present day Europe and beyond.
Is the speaker same one who is featuring in Intro to Upanishads by this channel...after seeing comments here, wondering if I should watch her in that series
It’s worth watching.
Exactly, the moment I heard Infosys Foundation, I have my doubts, it was occupied by ANTI India and Breaking India Forces.
Shocking that this "scholar" is preaching the AMT! DNA Analysis shows this to be completely false.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_archaeogenetics_of_South_Asia#:~:text=In%20India%2C%20the%20major%20maternal,%2C%20H%2C%20L%20and%20J2.
How? Please talk with evidence.
Abyyy yr waheee sab purana chacha lehru wala , Discovery of India, propaganda mt sunaowo yrr plss ab bht hogyaa 🙏
Sau shrimati Suchetaji is a boon blessing to all us lay public who aspire to know what's hidden in our darshans purans sanskrit shastras but we are all entangled in rush rut of public sansarik life . Sadhuwaad to SHRI SUCHETAJI🌷🚩👌🙏
So does a bare reading confirm that aryans were Europeans? Because this is what has been the colonial discourse.
You can get your DNA test. You do not have to believe in anything.
I started following this channel with so much expectation. But this lecture puts me iff completely. Aryan Invasion is by now not even a hypothesis, its a big lie. The speaker admits that there’s no evidence of this supposed migration, but deliberately keeps repeating “they came they came”.
Actually, like the Income Tax site, we cannot expect anything good from the American Murthys anymore.
What I can infer from your comment: If this scholar can make such a basic mistake of assuming Aryan Migration as a valid proposition whereas you are clearly saying it is false; that means that this scholar is fake, therefore she has no credibility, therefore all the people on the podium have no credibility and therefore Bhandarkar Oriental Institute doesnt have credibility. Since they are making such a basic mistake which no scholar should be making. Isnt that right?
No significat interpretation... I am disappointed.
Is Rushi the correct pronunciation?? Not Rishi??
खरंच खूप सुंदर रित्या तुम्ही वेद हा विषय उलगडला. काहीतरी क्लिष्ट आहे असाच समज होता. आता मात्र तुमची सगळी लेक्चर्स ऐकणार आहे.🙏🙏🙏💐
Started watching this with great interest , but when your talking about topics like aryan migration which is no where mentioned i decided to stop watching , Updating knowledge is important to stay relevant and. looks like u failed to. do so
Great introduction about the evolution of a cave man.....
Your English vdos are having less viewership comparatively marathi, pl make all these vdos in Marathi or Hindi. For your foreign viewers upload separate English vdos. The 🙏🚩
All Indians are interested to learn the Vedas, upanishats, aranyakams
SCIENTIFICALLY. IN this rush world, I would like to learn the knowledge in the scriptures. I others may want to learn veduc chanting etc.
Again the ignorance of Sanskrit hinders.
What I like is to have is a systematic way to learn Sanskrit and Vedas and Hindu Satan's, I preferably LG y both direct and on line.
What a wonderful talk! Enlightening.
Thank you very much madam.
Please continue 🙏
Thanks for the upload, so informative and nicely presented.
There is no commonality on English or Latin in Sanskrit…it tells me that you are peddling German lies on us…which they themselves have started to say and recognized Max Muller’s lies
30:20 so German guy was right, I fell like she is suffering with inferiority complex doesn't she know that she's an an-arya
Surprised to see that my phrase “from Caucasia to Bharat” has been striken thro by some algorithm of this TH-cam.
Amazing. First time came across this kind of information feels like knowing it more
IT IS A PITY THIS INDIAN TRUST INFOSYS IS EXECUTING THE HEGEMONICAL IMPERIAL AMERICAN PLAN TO MENTALLY MAKE INDIANS FEEL INFERIOR BY STEALING THEIR HERITAGE