BMW/Mini FRM (Footwell module) repair... Corrupted/missing data...
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In this video I will take you through the repair of what is a quite common issue that affects the FRM modules of BMW and Mini... they are prone to have the data in the processor corrupted due to low voltage... usually when a flat battery!
A quite common issue, that was the first time I came across, lol
There is plenty of info and other videos out there, and to be honest, I was not to record this...
But here you have it... my contribution!
The FRM in this video, belongs to a Mini, that came to me with a few issues, including this one...
All the checks where performed, before the diagnosis of a bad FRM was made, in case you are interested, link for that video below...
• Mini Cooper D (R56) no...
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To clean: Isopropyl Alcohol
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Soldering Iron: Temperature controlled soldering station.
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Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!
The footwell module is something I have had faults with but never been able to repair them. Absolutely brilliant to see how it is actually done & that you can do it with the Autel is mad & brilliant. Well done Luis & thank you very much 🙏🙏👍
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Can the autel xp400pro work with laptop instead of scanner for this function??
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Yes...
@@LMAutoRepairs so basically except the key programming it supports every function with the laptop…right boss??
Is not just BMW...
There is other manufacturers that suffer similar issues on some other modules is the battery goes too low, etc...
Peugeot, Opel, Volvo...
Great to see you are uploading videos again after your last video 😁, hope that everything is ok now!
As explained... I have videos ready to be published... about 7 months worth of them...
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It’s so refreshing to see an independent person can fix/diag this stuff without needing a main dealer who would most likely just swap the module 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Indeed... they would...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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As much as I am impressed too the reason the dealers wouldn't do this is that there tools don't have the function to do this.
That's correct... but these tools or others are out there for anyone that wants to buy them...😋
As are the dealer tools we use both In our shop. Although I'm defo more interested I'm the repair you done as we are tired of send frm modules out to be repaired lol just trying to find the best tools autel, xprog, etc?
They all have the particular use...
The IM608 is probably more user friendly...
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Good job Luis, I hate when eeproms be corrupped when battery be flat and some cars may lost immobilizer data from ecu and they won't start. Thanks for the video Luis
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The master at work once again people who don't know what there doing should just send cars to you
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Thanks!
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Good to see you back,hope you and your family had a great Xmas and brilliant New year.
Hope you're enjoying the new house and looking forward to some new content 😀
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Great to see you back, and what a clever person you are!!. Thank You
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Thanks!
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Great stuff Luis! Research really pays off in the end. Corrupt flash from low voltage. I remember using that technique for corrupting EEPROM chips to gain backdoor access :)
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Hi, thanks for the video. I have at least learned a new technique to improve my soldering.
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Luis, AWESOME information thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas brother.
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17:11 i like how the first 8 Bytes of the datablock say "DEADBEEF" :D
Didn't notice until you mentioned it now...
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Hi, I had the same problem and autel could not read the data from d flash. but I could read with hex prog
Excelente trabalho Luís! Como sempre 😁
Feliz Natal para ti e para tua família 👍
Obrigado!
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i have been weating for this video
merry christmas bro
i love you
Merry Christmas?
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Because I am electronic repairs engineer with 20-years experience really annoys me that big manufacturers like BMW can't even put any protection on these modules if there's a battery fail so then you have to stop messing around in reprogramming everything
I absolutely agree... they should be more robust in that matter...
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@@LMAutoRepairs exactly I agree please when you have people like you and me that can repair modules that's alright when you have customers they are not technically minded it would cost a fortune to get repaired
Not only BMW, we have had corsa D ecoflex I think 2009 with environment abs, body, ecu and something else related to Immo... Same issue low voltage and body module corrupted eeprom.. Took long before we put it to start..
@@LMAutoRepairs I agree too
Great video, just to let you know Autel Im608 wont read D Flash even though it says it does, reads P Flash no problem but not D Flash. Says D Flash is empty but its not. Read D Flash perfectly with Xhorse VVDi.
Keep up the good videos.
Yes... that was my experience... perhaps they will fix that in the future...
It allowed me to write data though, which allowed me to still fix the problem...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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thank you very much for the video louis was nt expecting have a happy new year stay safe god bless
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Bravo👍 Great information here, plz share the programming part if you had filmed it😉
Also, where do you get your Eeprom file's from, cuz I recently had a similar scenario on a Suzuki Vitara 2017 which had a internal memory/Eeprom fault in the ICM (Instrument cluster module) & the I could not find the right file for it to rewrite😌
Thanks for sharing Bro, Merry Christmas🎄 & Happy New Year🎆 to you & Stay Safe😍
I have already videos on programming/flashing modules with the MS908P...
The principle is the same regardless of the module...
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Most smart man on the earth 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
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Not even close...
But thanks... for watching and for your comment!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Dear Luis. Thanks. I am a beginner. Would you advise where I can read about the relationship between the EEE part, Dflash and Pflash parts of the module. I also need to read about how to program all modules of a BMW. Regards
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I have some videos on the programming... 👍👍👍
Good job and Merry Christmas
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Thank you for this video, and you can use BMW FRM Testing fixture kit for Repair CPU MC9S12XEQ384 which is available on eBay
Thanks for your help
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Thank you for the video Luis. 👍
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Top stuff as always looks a great tool
Indeed!
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Another excellent video luis 👍
Thanks!
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Can i have the link please
Hope you enjoy Christmas Luis . Nice video as always . A little question . Does the new house have a " workshop "😁 ?
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Kind of...😉
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Ah the annoying frm modules, in the end I bought a spring loaded pogo clip which made the process much easier to do when the issue rolled through the workshop. , the best one was the rear wiper over loaded the frm on a mini
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Great info thank you for video
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I have a big problem with module can you help me brother??
Nice repair video
Thanks!
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Hello Mr.
I seen your TH-cam over the repair the Footwell module (FRM) for BMW e90.
Please if I send to you my FRM module by mail to fixed for me and send it back to me how much will be cost?
Hi,chief, have here (Porto) a 2004 Rover 25 1.4 petrol,barely fires and dies, the (delphi) scanner shows all 4 injectors at 12 mS, at key on, and 14 mS start position, any ideas? crank sensor seems ok, tach moves and scanner shows 400 RPMs cranking, and baro sensor shows 1000 mBars at key on...
exciting video.. i am almost shaking
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and it has no lights, the windows do not go up and it does not want to start the car, it does not have a signal on the dashboard
Why didn't you program it with IM608 instead of ISTAP or Maxisys?
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If you watch the video I mentioned here, which the link is in the description, you will understand why...😉
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Thank you!!!
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Hi. Your videos are great. I have a 2011 mini R56 I'm working on. The guy bought it with no keys and the vehicle has been standing for approx a year. The battery was completely dead. Put a new battery on it and managed to add a key with my 508 after reading the DME isn. I have an issue with the remote doesn't work after programming. The central locking works from the switch in the car so will be checking the rear view mirror after seeing your video about that. My main question is, the drivers door window doesn't raise again after getting in and shutting the door. Stays open the couple of inches that it drops when it's unlocked. Is that likely to be the FRM corrupt due to the battery being dead please?
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Thanks for watching!
It is possible to be FRM...
But, is the window working at all?
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X-prog,Orange5 or VVDI prog + DFlash to EEE-this is the right way to repair frm3.If you want,i can send you two different windows apps to work with dflash.
The windows apps would be appreciated...
From all the above, I only have X-prog... and my one is too old, and does not read the mcu...
I will upgrade in the future, or will get VVDI, which is on my wishlist for some time...
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IM608 got massive update for BMW and there is FRM reset. Did not look what it does, just I notice it.
Haven't plugged my one for a few months...😓
Will check when I do...
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Thank you
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Great video! Thank you! So I sent my FRM to a service and they helped flush it. Now they say I need to disconnect the battery first, then connect the FRM back and finally connect the battery back.
But that's exactly how I got my FRM corrupted! (my FRM was good until some day I disconnected my battery and connected it back after 30 min)
Did you connect the FRM back with the battery disconnected? Or just simply connecting FRM back with the battery on is fine?
Thank you my friend.
I have never disconnected the battery...
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I have that same board outside, it doesn't have any exploded component, but if it has corrosion of water or moisture in the plug like in 10 tips and the moisture on the board is already dry, how can I clean it? please and thank you
You can clean it using alcohol, I use isopropyl alcohol, and a brush... I use an old tooth brush...
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Thank you. I'm wondering why you would invest in the xprog if you have other tools to do the work. What more can the x prog do?
Thanks again
Having other tools as a backup is never a bad idea...😋
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank you. Ahh but xprog is way too expensive for a backup. Try uuprog-s says new upgrades free.
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my frm module was repaired with a tech, i brought the module separately to the tech, after brought back the lights,power windows was working, but the car does not started.The error message was engine start fault, please close driver's door...
In 20:33 you said module has to program to particular car, would you show how to do it?
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I covered that slightly on the other video for this car, link on the video description...
And I have other videos on the channel covering that as well...
Perhaps some are for different modules, but the principle is the same...
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An you help me with bmw FRM pls
Great work! Thanx
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hank you very much for the video
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I've just had my Mini module reprogrammed but have no high beam and the windows wont auto close, can they be incorrectly programmed?
Sounds like...
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@@LMAutoRepairs They did indeed incorrectly programme it.
They put the information on from a different car with different VIN
Ups!
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Bom trabalho doutor👍👌
Obrigado!
Question as I'm still new to all of this. Once you revive it, can you program it the standard method using BMW tools like ISTA, Autologic, etc? Or do you need a specialty tool to reflash the FRM to the proper vehicle? Thanks and I subbed 👌🏽
No special tools...
Autologic will do it...
I did it with yhe Autel MS908P...
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I told Bmw about the FRM being covered during the time period because of the Recall they had on their part and they wouldn’t fix it. I love my BMW but I am over paying for luxury cars they just have luxury problems and require luxury payments
Very good video
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u said can't copy using standard usb but you do it through the network. What so a standard usb drive wont go in im608. What usb do I need then which the im608 pro can read?
Any usb stick will work...
I just think that is a Autel feature that was introduced... not sure...
Through the network allows to copy just fine...
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Hello Luis. Having worked with both of them, would you mind shedding some light on the matter? The question is, is maxi im same as maxi sys, just with expanded capabilities, or is there something maxi sys can do that the other device can't? Thank you in advance and as always, great content :)
No, they're different tools for different purposes
On the diagnostic side of things, from what I have seen so far, they are pretty much identical...
Is the immobiliser side on the IM608, and the flashing on the MS908P...
Though, I've heard that the IM608 can now do flashing... I have not yet tested, so can't really comment...
@@marion1600 seems like we have some Dunning Krugers here...
Good job !
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Hello, how did you move data from the flash drive (other computer ) to Autel MI608?
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With the ES explorer...
But I do it through the network...
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Do you know if its possible to transfer data from a ecu esu13 from a volvo s40, 2005? With xprog? 😅
Possibly... never worked on one of those...
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Where are you based please my module needs fixing
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Could I buy an FRM 2 or will it need coding to car thanks
Will need coding to the car...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks. Frm3r seen. EBay services 19.99 to 34.99. Isn’t as expensive as thought.
Hello sir. I did from 2 yesterday ago one FRM3 and everything work fine. Yesterday the same car came back with the same problem after battery problems and I Don have the flash or the eeprom again. How can I fix it again because no flash in it. Thank u
You haven't saved the data from it?
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@@LMAutoRepairs no but I will try again to find them. If no I will just get another and program the vin is better no?
I am guessing you have no comms with the module through OBD, correct?
@@LMAutoRepairs I don't try anything so far. But the owners say he put another frm from bmw E67 but his own is E87. He say everything is working now only the front light so I have to see tomorrow. I will let u know tomorrow. People here at the border of France Germany and Switzerland like to touch too much lol anyway thank u so much sir
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Hi. My name is pierre and I Ave the same problem with my mini 2011 window signal and warning lights don't work please I need your help how can I contact you?? Please
You just did...☺️
Have you scanned the car?
Have checked live data etc...
If your problem is exactly the same as on the video, the video explains how to fix it...
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Do you do srs module resetting
When needed...🤪
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@@LMAutoRepairs dam i should have come to you i have a honda civic with internal error 51 21 I've sent it off but worried I'll need to replace it
On what site did you find the file?
DK if I recall correctly...
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what power supply did you use for the 5v.where can i buy one . thank you
The IM608 powers up the circuit when programming...
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luis great work !
need your help i want to get an xprog for those faults what version is the best ?
is there an eee folder build in to xprog to program ?
Latest I would say...
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Olá Luis, otimo video tenho o mesmo problema, de onde voce é ?
Portugal... a viver em Inglaterra...
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is it not possible to put a second hand 1 in it
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Great vedio
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great job, is that xprog oem or clone?
Clone...
Thank you for watching!
That is not MaxiSys. It is MaxIM608
Don't remember saying it was... if I did, my mistake.
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Boas Festas!
Obrigado!
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Hi! You are restored eeprom in wrong way! You just had to extract ori Dflash from Pflash! Without to coding, just write ORIGINAL eeprom back.
Wrong or not it worked...
Plus, Pflash was showing empty anyway...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Mate, by extract Dflash from Pflash (so make 99% of people) you can restore 100% copy of original erprom. After this - you do not need to make anythink. Just install back to car.
Dflash is empty (better to say corrupt). It is normal. Pflash is not empty! If you have some time - look at video from Bimmerdoc. He made copy of erprom in the right way. Thanks for video and for comment!
PS My comment about update for Xprog is deleted?
You cant extract dflash from pflash. You extract eep from dflash
@@pelican7481 In this ECU is the same thing.
There is no wrong way if it works
Does the f series have problems with frm3 and how can be repaired
Never had it on a F series... but heard of some failures on them...
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@@LMAutoRepairs if i personalise an ecu such video in motion in cic or start stop in cas if car go to dealer for update its ilevel does those settings in coding can revers to factory coding level
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Hi if u have hexprog just u do Repair and it's Don
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Very expensive tool that one is though...🤪
Thank you for watching!
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Hello mate what about if I can read D-flash but corrupt on eee no data. Can I move this data to eee or better start programming with autel on the car? Thanks
Not quite... in that case do what I did here...
th-cam.com/video/HziaW91YqBg/w-d-xo.html
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Once you gain communications with the module, Autel can do the rest...
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Yes I have done write exactly the same and on eee section now I have some FFFFFFFF reading so now give it to Autel?💪😃. Thank you
@@LMAutoRepairs just putting back in the module and straight away flashing lights start works and windows start works but unfortunately I can’t coding because I still can’t turn the ignition on🤷♂️🤷♂️ any idea how to bypass the ignition ignition to turning on?? It won’t release the ELV even with the emulator
There is I believe an ignition reset or something like that if I recall correctly...
Can you communicate with the FRM now?
@@LMAutoRepairs yes I can communicate with frm already and windows work indicator work’s light but still can’t turn the ignition on
Okay here is my question Luis, can you use autel to get the correct file the one that matches with that car with online subscription !
Not really...
At least, not that I am aware of...
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@@LMAutoRepairs so what is that updating modules that autel does ? I am sure you had BMW abs which was from a different car then later once fitted you used autel to get the correct file with autel ! How does that work ? Please explain
Yes... but that is done during the flash process... yes, the MS908P will download the required files for flash and coding...
What I have done here with the IM608 is slightly different...
@@LMAutoRepairs I am after a scan tool that will do things such as ( coding and if changed any modules then the scanner will find the correct file and flash it ) so example if incase you had mini same year car slighty different version of FW module, and had ms908p could this find the correct file and pair it ? Thanks
Yes... MS908P will do all of that...
Just one thing, MS908P will not touch the immobiliser side of things...
You can flash it with IM608. Put that Maxisys away
Need an adapter for ethernet...
Hi did you notice when you checked to see if the EEE after write had Data now, at the top of the Data Says DEAD BEEF lol 17.12 time on the video in the first line of address
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Luis, will this work with an Autel elite?
Don't think it does... this is a slightly different system...
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@@LMAutoRepairs I have a 2013 X5 with no comms from the FRM2 after replacing a faulty alternator. Nearest dealer is in the next state 400 miles away. I’d love to learn how to fix these. I’m one of the only import shops in my area. I also run into the Audi steering column module issue a lot too.
I am sure this is a previous record before I watch it
If you are on Patreon yes... was released in there ages ago...
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Can I send you my faulty R57 FRM for a repair? Car cranks but doesn't start. I'm 99% sure its the FRM as there was evidence of water ingress.
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I wouldn't really have how to test it...
Sorry...
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What I meant was, would you be able to reprogram the FRM, like the one in your video? I can bring it to you? I’m at a loss of where to go next :/
Do you have communications with the module?
@@LMAutoRepairs I do… everything seems to work, windows work, lights work, roof goes up and down. There just seems to be no power getting to the spark plugs. Thank you for your response, I know you’re busy!
The FRM would not be responsible for that... as far as I am aware...
Have you checked diagrams to see what powers the coil pack/s?
Could you do this with maxisys also??
No...
Thank you for watching!
@@LMAutoRepairs so you cannot connect the programmer module to the maxisys, it only works with maxiim? nice from autel point of view, they do this so they get 2x subscrptions...
The Maxisys is a different machine... you can get the IM instead, which has pretty much all the functions of the MS908P included...
@@LMAutoRepairs i was actually looking at the maxisys ultra... it also has the scope and function generator, i am not sure if the im608 does programming of modules which is very important
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The Ultra is at another level...
I guess every tool has its place, and depends on what you need it for you choose one over the other...
New subscriber for "it's not rocket science!" :P
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Gd100 will do this job in 15 minutes maximum worth looking at 👍🏻
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It is not like am doing this every day...
Time doesn't bother me too much...
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Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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You are very well speak to english
Could be better...😋
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You made it wrong, read forums.
Would have made it wrong if wouldn't work...
Sometimes, there is more than one way to do things...
Thank you for watching!
@@LMAutoRepairs sorry, but what is working now? You have many dtcs and its not working propetly. People who watch this Will think that it done and ready to go to costumer. But its not, and I sometime fix such "done" and "working" cars after some electricians.
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Oh dear...
You haven't watched the other video... have you?
After I got communications with the FRM was easy to get rid of all the DTCS... by flashing the module with the original software... again, all on both videos for this... video on the description by the way...
Link please, video in discription does not show anything about coding or finishing the job!
It is just a flash and coding as per the vo... done with the MS908P or any other capable tool... as mentioned on that video...not rocket science...
I have videos on that... search the channel...
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Half baked information
Half?
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You can share the other half then...
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