What Would PRIME JJ Average In Today's NBA? 🤔
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- In this clip, JJ Redick and Jamal Crawford discuss what they think JJ Redick would average in today's NBA.
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26 might be a stretch but we'll take it. th-cam.com/video/6r3aa35r9sg/w-d-xo.html
I said that about a couple guys; You, Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Peja, would love to see you guys in this era
I'll give you 22.6 bro ! You were good
I can imagine prime JJ in Philly with that offense. Would be killer
You’ll have at least 30 30-point games a season.
Quit being MODEST JJ.....I watched you at Duke. You were Davidson Steph at Duke.
JJ trying not to blush when Crawford said he’d average 26
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He’s right tho. If they ran the plays for him and let him take 12 to 13 three point shots a game, he would definitely knock down 5 to 6 a game and put up around 25 points a game easy.
As a number one option I can see it because in Philly he averaged 17.5 his two years their and he wasn’t the number one or two option but he was definitely vital in that offense the way they used him.
The problem is now he’d be the target of the defenses so that may impact how effective he is and also JJ reddick was a very underrated mid range shooter too. I can easily see at worst 20 ppg and at best 27 ppg
Definitely, he was a college star and he only averaged around 20 pts per game. Averaging 26 in the nba would be incredible for him.
People forget JJ averaged 17ppg on 42% from 3 and 18ppg on 40% from 3 in back to back years (he was 33 and 34). He shot 42% from 3 for his career attempting 5 3s a game. He would EASILY average 20ppg +. He’s 18th on the all time 3pt list while not being in the top 10 of minutes played (from that list). An extremely underrated player & shooter.
Saw him at Duke and this dude was the best shooter I've ever seen before Steph
Well I don't see JJ keeping that same energy when he takes about former players so why should JJ get the benefit of the doubt about what he COULD have done?
JJ was a killer in college
But bad at defense
@@lukamagicgod correlation?
For anyone who doesn’t think JJ will average 20 plus is insane , he averaged 18 as a 3rd or 4th option and was old. If he got to play today in this era he could easily average 22
Yeah bur that Philly team was stacked. The amount of defensive attention he got and the good looks he got due to Embiid’s presence along with Butler and Ben was insane.
And that 18 a game wasn’t for his whole career either. JJ averaged over 15 a game in his 8th year and he wasn’t ridiculously efficient from 3 until 2015, his 2nd year with CP and the lob city squad. While I do believe he would score 20 a season, he’s not going over 20 by much in my eyes because if he was a 20 a game guy, he would be much more heavily guarded which would lead to a drop in his efficiency and the more threes you take, the less efficient you become in general. The 6 attempts a game he got between 2015 and 2020 were all quality looks. There weren’t many last second chucked threes or them forcing JJ to shoot much. With an increase in volume, we would have seen more defensive attention in this era and the efficiency wouldn’t be as good. If you think JJ’s still shooting nearly 48% from 3, like he did in 2016, with 12-13 attempts rather than 5-6 a game, you’re crazy
@@kerke4639 how much more is 22 than 20 points ??😭 you’re acting like I said he was gonna average 25 plus. I said 22 because I was being REALISTIC
At what cost tho? That year he shot 44%
I could see him getting 20 a game. But he would need someone else as a primary option. But 20 average as a nice second option definitely!
@@dicklogan2 He would be a nice 4th or 5th option, and if he scores 20 as a 4th option on high efficiency thats ideal . I dont think any team with JJ reddick as the 2nd scoring option is a title contender, if hes the 3rd option and the team is super elite around him maybe, just my opinion tho
JJ is an exact definition of a generation too early. He had that confidence, ability and IQ to create his own shots, call for his shots and get hot when he needed to, look at his highlights. Dude was a killer
Dude was a underrated playmaker you could run pick an rolls with him too
JJ was not a good ball handler and was a choke artist...He would never average over 20 in any era
@jakeequality8065 How much do you average in the NBA?
@@CreamyPesto505i disagree with Jake but your question doesn’t make sense here
@@jakeequality8065imagine a guy that can score 18 ppg on 5 attempts from 3 back when 3s were as common. Players now consistently shoot over 5 attempts per game. JJ, being a 40+% shooter from deep…averaging likely more than 5 attempts per game.
I’d think it would be very easy for him to average 20+.
The fact that he avg 18 in Philly is crazy. I gotta agree, he would def have 20+ a game if he played in modern offenses
Maybe, it depends on his offensive hierarchy. As a number 1 option no, but as a 3rd, absolutely
Yeah I’d say if Bojan Bogdonovic can avg 20+ in a season and never be a #1 option, JJ def could’ve
@@a_boat93nah jj would be cj mccullum
@@jboogie45213how the hell does that make sense any half decent player whose a number 1 option is averaging 20 plus? Assuming there playing over 32 minutes literally any half decent basketball player would
@@jacobwheeler2462 That's not true at all. Players who can score 20 as a number 1 in the NBA are 3 level scorers, JJ is not that. When you have defenses keying on you every game this is a prerequisite. Another factor is volume, JJ Reddick was not a volume scorer, so he would have to get those points efficiently as a number 1. As a third option these limitations wouldn't play a factor. The reason he averaged 18ppg in Philly is because he was the 3rd option and benefited from the space created for him and the fact he didn't have to score from every area of the court
When Crawford co-signs your offensive dreams it's real😂
JJ lit up w that 26 pts estimate 😂
Lol bro averaged 18 once and now we think he gonna average superstar numbers. Charles Barkley always said when speaking on Kenny smith and Draymond “the older they get the better they were
He actually would have average at least 20 if he was able to launch like Steph and Clay.
@@erniejohnson677nah JJ is right tho. He average 18 in philly and he wasn’t even the #1 or 2 option. He was just a shot creator in certain situations. He was limited by coaching. If he was given Joel’s shot attempts and more plays for open look shots he’s definitely averaging 25 ppg easy. He just broke through the nba too early. If he was drafted in Luka, Trae’s draft he’d be on their tier as a scorer but definitely not as a playmaker/superstar. But scoring/shooting wise yeah he’d be that good, not as crafty/fast but definitely efficient.
@@erniejohnson677 26 is not superstar numbers. maybe 26 if he was the #1 option, but more realistically 22 is i could see
I remember him playing in the 09' Finals against Lakers. Hedo, D. Howard, JJ.. that was a team!
Jj didnt play much though. It was hedo, dwight, rashard lewis, courtney lee and jameer but jameer got injured and rafer alston replaced him and played well. Marcin gortat was also a benchwarmer for them back then.
Jamal is kind of right. Maybe not 26, but 23 or so. I dont agree with 4 transition layups a game--he never approached that at any point in his career. But 22-24? Yep.
Yeh facts guys like herro average 20+ a game and jj shot better than herro does.And if jj started his career off well in todays game he would be coached better in other areas because he’d be a star where as he was a specialist in his playing days he wouldn’t have had to develop the less required skills that a star would need
@@Idur88Herro is a different type of player than JJ.
@rudi Herro is a straight bucket getter. That's what he does. JJ was a spot up shooter. Even so, JJ would definitely average 20+ a game.
4, during his career the way it played, is a lot. But if he had the green light, shot 12 threes a game and made 5 of them? That opens up the floor a lot. This JJ could definitely get some transition layups. Some people are guarding Steph at the three instead of the paint. A fake is enough to get the D to bite and for Steph to get a transition layup
@@angelvollant864 if JJ worked a lot more on his handles. He'd need more ballhandling confidence than what he had if he wanted to go to the basket. Also would have needed a better floater. But shooting threes, he would be golden--better pure shooter than most the guys putting up lots of threes today...add in the occasional midrange, with a couple layups a game, I could see 22, 23 a game.
THE GLAZING IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE! The difference between JJ and the players named is that they're either better shooters, or also had defense to remain on the court and earn their shots.
Steve Kerr emphasizing high mobility and constant motion during plays has been such a revelation for the NBA
Greg Popovich started it first
Yo Jamal let us know where the fountain of youth is ⛲️ . JESUS this guy doesn’t age lol. He looks the same as when he played on my Knicks a million years ago.
I think calling on Jesus is kinda overly dramatic lol! Take care do your body everyday! It’s simple. Yea it’s certain alternative factors but it’s not that hard to stay healthy tbh!
Being rich also helps
That dude looked 40 when he was 20 tho that ain't the fountain of youth lmao
This dude still looks like he at Michigan I’ve been sayin the samething for years he doesn’t age at all Wtf 😂😂😂😂
@@Sqeaky6969I just googled him in college -you are right!
Stan was one of the first guys to start the pretty high volume shooting with the threes with that 2010 team
JJ's fade to the right off the screen 3 was incredible.
Jump shots fading left and right require the brain to do an order of magnitude of caculations greater than a straight jump shot. The fact that he was consistent with it always amazed me.
Good comment, I say that all the time ! Jj runs like a mad man off the screens then his footwork on his run, catch and shoot is amazing!
U must be amazed with Kobe then
@@Grind2Excellence Kobe has the best overall footwork dribble, defense ,turnarounds etc… Jj doe for his jumpshot look like a game of duck duck goose my boy be running for his life 😂😂😂
@@tallboiselldat this man would be full sprinting and shoot a jumper… God is Good man🙏🏻
Jj was blushing 😂😂
Idk about 26 but I think a few low 20-point seasons would've been possible.
Youre clearly a casual if you think he wouldnt average 26 if he was a second or first option lmao 3rd 4th option he was averaging 18ish
@@REDDRomeo then I guess JJ himself is a casual since he said 26 might be a stretch himself. And imagine that? More shot attempts = more points. Not many 3rd or 4th option gets 14 FGA. That's the equivalent of a 2nd option for most teams.
@@REDDRomeo if you think he averaging 26 you simple as hell
@@REDDRomeo that’s just absolutely ridiculous. JJ isn’t capable of being a first of second option because he can’t get his own shot. He did most of his scoring off catch and shoot. That’s 3rd option at best. To average past 25 you have to be able to get to the free throw line more often he’s not a driver. You don’t get fouled nearly as often on catch and shoot 3s. I’d say he could average 20/21 if he got to shoot the ball a little more but nothing else would really change
@@RollTideRoll-xk5kx in that 2010s era, if you think jj wouldnt score more than 20 if they prioritized him more, you’re delusional, he mostly sat on the 3 cus thats what the gameplan had him do
I like how humble jj portrays himself. I’m not sure deep down he’s humble bc he was a killer but the man handles himself with grace
In your opinion, is he supposed to be humble ?
Well said. Good insight
JJ has sat up on national tv talking down on players from the 60s and 80s, that dude is the epitome of a try-hard who thinks too highly of himself. Please stop.
Definitely 20 pts per game easily
I've been saying this too. JJ was drafted way too early. Not talking about the age, I'm talking about the skillset. A young JJ plays so similar to Tyler Herro. JJ isn't just a catch and shoot guy, he can create for himself. It's just some systems don't made him fluorish. In SVG's system, everything runs through the bigs. JJ would never get the ball because the Offense ran through Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard. Went to the Clippers, spent most of his prime there. Fluorished there, but as a role player. In Philly, they used him the way the Warriors used Klay on offense, hence JJ averaged his career high in points.
All I can say is, Duke JJ is different because Coach K used him right. NBA JJ is one of the intelligent role players but one of the could've beens if someone used him right.
JJ can not create for himself lol, the reason why steph, dame and harden are sp good is because they can score anytime they want. JJ doesn’t have the ball handling like they do. College is way different than the NBA also, he look really good in college because it fit his style. He still had a good career so it doesn’t really matter
@@tristanp5605 Duke JJ has a bag bro. It's just SVG just misused him. Also, JJ has high basketball IQ even for a shooter. I feel like JJ would be DBook if he had the green light early in his career.
I agree.... if prime JJ played in today's game he's def averaging 20 or more... he was a very underrated player
He wasn’t underrated. He was a great shooter, good offensive player, terrible defender, and a solid overall player.
20 in today’s game is more like 15 in other eras, it makes sense.
@@johnb3898ion know he was jus a shooter guys like him now r taller n better than him at defense he would need to be able to create his own shot not jus come off the screen shoot kind of guy
@@slimluka2947 if post-injury Klay can get 22 points in 22-23 with similar shooting %s as JJ had for his career, then JJ can get 20. The thing is, what does that mean for your team? It probably means you’re a mediocre team at best if JJ is getting you 20.
I remember when him and Hansbrough were at Duke and Carolina, respectively. Miss those days😊
We missed out on a JJ villian MVP run
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He would've won cuz he's white
-perk
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I agree we might’ve seen duke jj in this era
Not mvp but definitely all star
Crawford is an absolute basketball legend and a true student of the game. Not just an nba legend but a basketball legend
Legend in general, man. You should see the things he does here in Seattle and the way he treats people.
I think you gotta shoot at least 40% in the playoffs before we call you a legend no? I’m going to assume you weren’t aware of that, not even 31% in threes. He’s on the short list for most overrated player of all time. And I quoted you his FG% when that’s his supposed best skill set. I didn’t even talk about being atrocious defensively and barely averaging 2 assists. He’s objectively a better negative at basketball but no one remembers the constant Ls just the 1 in every 100 games where he dropped 50
JJ needs to ask himself, WHAT IF LARRY PLAYED TODAY? He thinks HE’s getting 26, then Larry is getting 40 per
Who cares? We are talking about JJ. Y’all love bringing up historical greats as if we don’t already know they are historically great players 😂😂😂
Ask himself about Larry??? What is that logic 😂. You didnt even listen, Crawford was the one that came up with 26, not JJ
Old heads be different
Larry shot as many 3s as he wanted dude had the green light
Exactly...I can never respect this guy after his absurd Larry Bird take...He's a fucken clown...
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I agree with Crawford. Many times before 2012ish , non athletic guards were relegated to being spot up shooters. Other than teams like the spurs or early-mid 2000s pistons, teams were only using shooters as guys you kick it out to from the post or after the star players drives in and kicks it out
JJ would not be getting 8pts a game off transition layups wtf 😂
They drunk lol
There’s 3 ways you can score
Freethrows
2’s
3’s
Crawford names the average for each of those categories
Does that help?
@@theulises5089 he specifically named the ways and frequency in which JJ would score on average. 8pts (4 layups) off transition layups is laughable, I’m surprised even JJ didn’t stop him right there. Does that help?
He would have you played in
@@CPAClass2010 Use your mind my friend.
3’s 2’s and 1’s
Think…
JJ with their green light would’ve been nasty
I'd have JJ top 20 best 3 point shooters of all time! Dude could shoot. Shooting was his game. Curry is the greatest shooter of all time by far though.
1. Stephen Curry
2. Larry Bird
3. Ray Allen
4. Damian Lillard
5. Prime Klay Thompson
Not greatest all around basketball players necessarily but greatest shooters to ever do it.
Just so you know, we saw you standing still. You're our guy
Idk about 26 because you're in the mvp conversation with that. But definitely 21 per game. Jj wasn't known for dribbling and breaking ankles to get open but he could do some damage today if he played
JJ in today's NBA would be amazing
@Joemama but he was way past his prime at that point even when he was with the clippers he didn’t have the green light like he should’ve
Defense HAS LEFT THE CHAT with all this guys. But real talk the league is dofferent… can you imagine REGGIE FREAKIN MILLER and evem Ray Allen. Those guys would have been certified to be one of the best ever.
The only problem is everyone of those other players were more than shooters. They are either PGs or had elite defence like Klay. Unless you played for a bad team, JJ wouldn't be taking that many shots.
JJ was very efficient.
@@jwatson181 Right but in an elite team he would be a 3rd/4th option scoring wise so therefore he would have to provide something more like the other names did.
@@ANGELOFDARKificationcj mccullum, anfernee simons type
@@bullykojima3232 We really acting like JJ can dribble, pass and create his shot as much as CJ or Simons?
@@ANGELOFDARKification yeah that’s silly CJ is a fringe all star. Dude is way better then JJ. Some of y’all acting like he played 20 years ago smh
If you swapped klay thompson with prime JJ on the warriors then he would average bare minimum 20 a game. Klay shoots 38% without steph on the floor, 42% with steph. JJ shot 42% for his career never playing with steph! So funny that people think its a hot take to put JJ over klay as a shooter, its literally facts
False, he didn’t have the defense prime Klay had to stay on the floor over 30 mins
@@kevinhawkins20 yea he wouldnt be better than klay but i think over 20pts is fair for him if its a steph and jj backcourt
@@kevinhawkins20klay is overrated for his defense he was never a good defender he was ok his dbpm was always in the negatives jus like JJ
Come JJ, calm down.
You’re starting to sound like every old retired player on how “if I PLAYED TODAY… this league is too soft… I WOULD HAD 60points easy…”
Ray would be killer today
I tell folks and this doesn’t take away from curry at all but if Ray was able to take 9-10 shots every game steph would still be chasing that 3pt record
It was weird to watch that Orlando team be so ahead of the curve in some aspects but yeah watching JJ in college to then watch him during those Orlando teams when they were playing well JJ was an after thought for the most part. Dwight was a fckn monster during that time though. Lewis Hedo and Nelson. Makes you wonder if he had more of a responsibility what that team could have accomplished. Maybe I'm wrong but I do wonder if he would of had more of a green light in his situations what could of been.
If he averaged 15 3s a game he'd be 26 but go look at the stats adjust his career to 10 3PA a game and the most he averages is 21ppg pretty good tho
Thats only 3s, srpinkle some FTs, fastbreak layups, rare mid range you get 25 easy.
@@VengeanceSinX he was saying how if he shot as many 3s as they do now
@@Teachingcasuals nope, JC said "Add in 8 points from fastbreak layups, not to mention FTs"
@@VengeanceSinX true still got no defense tho. Theres a reason he retired so early despiting being a great shooter. Other guys can shoot and also are taller so. So 20-25 means nothing without d ask trae young
JJ plays solid defense and played 10+ years. You too young to know.
This the same JJ that says the older generations can’t compete with todays game 😅😂 but he’d avg 26 😭😭 but doesn’t think guys like Reggie, Ray, mj, Kobe, he’ll even Nash was told to slow it down… imagine Karl Malone with aau training he’s already top 3 ALLTIME scoring, add the fundamentals/development/ confidence in shooting you get from the AAU circuit as a kid … mfs like bird, Malone, Stockton, magic, Drexler etc… would’ve been INSANE
How would a player like Trajon Langdon 'The Alaskan Assassin' do in today's NBA?
@@Gifted21 When the NBA gave up on him, he went overseas to play and had a successful career over in the Euroleague. Before eventually coming back to work the front office for the New Orleans Pelicans. th-cam.com/video/tLNB8CK5tvQ/w-d-xo.html
I know. I've seen his CSKA Moscow highlights before and was really excited about the one year in New Orleans when the Blue Devils took over and the team had JJ Redick, Zion Williamson, Brandon Ingram, Jahlil Okafor, and Frank Jackson with Trajan as the GM.
I can definitely see him having a avg 22pt a couple years with a klay type of green light role on a contending team for sure. When JJ was at Duke the green light was always on and he was making very tough shots from deep.
Facts. Philly still loves JJ
JJ thought Jamal was saying “what you say?” As an argument that he’d get up to 20, but Jamal was like nah Brodie that’s not high enough 😂💪🏻
Jjs Percentages speaks for themselves. He definitely was ahead of his time with that particular skill set
Lol every xplayer thinks they're going to drop 15 more than their career average. It's pure fantasy
JJ is the fireman or plumbers in his era.
If all fireman and plumbers shoot threes like JJ, I wouldn't mind being a fireman too XD
Lol
GREEEEAT help by the other guy!!!! The pic with mvp was GOOOOLD!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂, but jj would have gone from bench warmer to star for sure, or at least a big gun.
"stand still guy" was all you needed to hear jj not getting all them shots🤣
the older he gets the better he was 😂
@@TheManPromised nah son
Cleveland should've got you. Would've been amazing to watch you go off. Big fella finding you every time 🔥👌
JJ would’ve been crazy man I miss them college games
Nah I don’t think so that Philly year he avg 18 that was his highest scoring year of his career on 8 3pa a game
In 2016, JJ Redick averaged 22ppg per 75 possessions on +9% rTS. His prime wasn’t that long ago. And he was passable on Defense with the Clippers like Curry is.
He would be at best Klay before the injuries. He could've 4 rings with steph instead of klay lol
Class act that JJ he like that compliment Crawford was nice love watch both these guys play
Let’s not forget JJ was like that with coach K! I honestly think JJ’s performance in college gave these players the confidence to shoot the Trey from outer space 😂
JJ would be an all star in todays game.. y’all may not know how deadly this dude was coming out of college
A "Stan-still" guy hit different!
JJ was blushing 😭😂😂😂
You didn't even average 20 when you where with philly with the green light lol
3 Point Assassin!!!! With volume he would have had many 30 Point Nights
Nah, JJ was a spot up shooter. Klay doesn’t even average 26.
JJ so humble it’s crazy
You know who is one of my all time "born too early" guys?
Bargnarni.
If that dude was 12 years younger, he would be oen of the most valuable players in the nba.
But when we make this argument with Jordan saying if he played today he would average 45 you guys are so ready to dismiss that
He avg 18 in Philly and he was mostly getting his points moving off the ball , he would easily score over 20
I can see him being on some more efficient Fred vanvleet numbers
That’s why stats are inflated in today’s game, not saying it’s trash or no skills development advancement ever happened, but allowing less defense and enabling more offensive freedom helps a lot.
Bro stop, this is getting Gilbert Arenas type crazy.
Crazy to think that the warriors we’re choosing either Stan or Steve as a head coach…wow,..I believe Kerr unlocked Curry’s potential with all their ball movement,fluidity on offense
I agree jj Jamal Monta a lot of guys in this era would go crazy with the freedom you have now a days
i didn’t even know he was on orlando
What’s hilarious is this clown JJ talking about him averaging 20+ today & at the same time saying players like Jordan & Bird are overrated. If JJ gets 20+ today, Larry Bird averages 50! 🤦🏼♂️
His lob city days were iconic
I don't think JJ reddick will get 8 points in transition per game.
I love JJ basketball analysis but I don’t remember him playing 😮
And also I always imagine how Hedo & Rashard will play in todays Game. They will be as good (maybe) as Luka & Tatum. That Magic Roster & Dwight's Dominance.
JJ would've definitely hit 7/12 from 3 a game.
Bro u couldn’t dribble. You were a role player
Bro played in the modern league wtf
I agree with Crawford because JJ was a good 3 point shooter yes he early but he was also not selfish so he could have help a team a chip or 2
I love JJ. He's spot on when he says SVG had no idea how to use him in Orlando
Everyone on that Magic team was better than him at the time. He was basically Pat Connaughton for them
He would basically be the Drazen Petovic of todays game no cap
What would you consider "prime J.J.?"
JJ would be today's Klay Thompson. On the other team. That'd be dope to watch.
BIG 🎩 BOI WOULD STILL BE DUNCAN ROBINSON 😂
He doesn’t take himself too seriously. Seems like a normal guy who played at nba and Duke of all places.
22-23 is realistic imo
jj has finally became that oldhead saying he was born to early
wow let's not forget about iversons bad azz white boy early on in Philly talking about K squared kyle korver
I played high school basketball and the best shooter on my team . I was the only one who was drawn plays up to shoot . But like jj said if I was in high school today . I would of been in college. And than over seas just because I could shoot so well but coaches did trust you and coaches didn’t think they could win shooting jump shots so I agree with jj
Yeah,but will your team win?
From his time with the clippers til his first year with New Orleans he averaged 15ppg minimum and he was already in his 9th year. He was a legit bucket.
JJ is perfect for Batman role 🦇
JJ can come back right now and still put up 20 plus. ( please come back)
Prime jj with today's game easily averages 25 plus
i used to watch jj highlights after school ngl and trust he dropping 20-25 let’s not forget he’s a smart player too man getting 2-3 assists
Damn…. He was early. Bc his game is very useful in today’s game
Stop 😂 this plumber getting his name out there with steph is hilarious 😭🤦♂️
jj is far from a plumber
Allowing great shooters like him to take a minimum of 12 3s a game would be insane. And imagine Jamal Crawford? Who tbh was with the wrong team most of his career and poorly coached. Shoulda had more opportunities