Could Michael Jordan Compete in Today’s NBA? (ft. JJ Redick)
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It’s unbearable when they talk over the guest nonstop
Yea tryna crack lil jokes while your guest is tryna explain some shit is hella childish
@@dreadthedreads4567no it’s not it’s called being a comedian. Yall forgeting this is a comedy podcast
@@Jay-jw4yi yea kinda hard 2 hear the jokes and the guest talking at the same time
Last time I checked comedians didn’t try 2 crack jokes while ppl were on stage talking
@@dreadthedreads4567 no but they make jokes amongst other comedians/entertainers in conversation. Being quick-whitted is part of being a great comedian and that’s what these guys are trying to do. Like I said it’s comedy podcast.
Broooooooooo!!! lol thank you
Didn’t see a lot of talk about MJ in this clip.
tf r u talking about
@@winstonperra8070u dumb or stupid?
Do you know what a clickbait is?
@@winstonperra8070 What he's talking about? He's talking about they not mentioning MJ at all.
This podcast would be much better produced if Akaash could be muted before releasing.
And andrew
False statement
#FreeAndrewTate
Sometimes I'm trying to hear what JJ has to say only for him to get cut off over and over again by these guys talking some nonsense. Let the guest speak, jesus.
Not just that they are doing this, but that they are buffoons.
Because Redick is talking nonsense.
He really has no clue what he is talking about. Him or any NBA today could even make a team back then not less play.
Thats facts the game was different and much harder. It wasn't about entertainment. You had to keep you hand on
top the ball, palm down, no steps at all! You couldn't run into you defender at all without getting a charge and that
went for anywhere on the floor
JJ is jockeying for positions within the NBA... whether it be analyst, or 'coaching' for Lebron.
If you think he'll say anything remotely honest, I'm sure youll eat up whatever BS your politicians are selling to you too.
@@bdub1934 yes, you, a couch potato, are more credible and qualified to talk about the game of basketball, than actual NBA veteran
the dellusion in todays society is unreal
The Richard Jefferson jab had me rollin they really boys😂😂
The way they interrupt JJ with the corniest jokes while he is explaining his insights is beyond annoying lol. JJ was a better at basketball than they are at comedy, he is an expert!
Nah JJ is full of it and the only good part of the video was them roasting him at the end smh
@@frostedflakes55 ah, we have seen the foolish casual.
Nahhhh!!
JJ 100% was annoyed being cut off all episode and knew it was a waste of his time. He’s at his best with Tim Legler and Lebron talking great basketball.
Dude jj is corny. Dudes acting like bird wouldn’t drain 3s in my face. Jj wouldn’t even have made the Celtics starting line up unless ainge got injured 😂.
Can MJ compete? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Dude he would literally kill.
He would average 40-50 in this league
@@DallanRicheyhe would average 22 MAX lmao he’s worse than Derozan
@@SumboodyNao 😂
@@SumboodyNaoit’s incredible, everything you said was flat out false
@@GoPackGo-mm5lmfor real, in this league with no defense or physicality he would run laps over this league. This dude doesn’t even know that MJ lead the league in scoring ten times in a more physical and tougher generation😂
Current players have such an advantage in how the game is officiated and played, spacing, free flowing nature of the game, etc. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and other players from past eras had to work to create whatever space they could and if they played in today's NBA would have far less shots contested than they had when they played in the 80s and 90s. All aspects of offense is far easier now and over the last 10 years or so then it was in the 80s and 90s.
Akaash couldn’t let Jj make his first point.. let your guest speak! Dam..
Seethe, bronsexual
Here's an idea, let him answer your question and you just might get the info you're looking for
Not only compete, he would dominate, with all the spacing and no hand checking I can see jordan going for 40-45 points a night
Fairly easily in my opinion, and perhaps even off the floor shortly after the midway point of the fourth. I want some analytic dude to figure out if Iverson is number one in the all-time on his ass in the paint list. They have ruined the sport in order to appease a more casual fan that prefers to watch offense. A 30 ppg average in today's NBA is like a 21, 22, average even ten or fifteen years ago. It's getting to the point of unwatchable, like the NFL. NCAA is a much better game in both basketball and football now.
@@IRequireMedicationno, they play this way because it works. Much easier to score when the floor is spread out with 3 point shooters instead of Charles Oakley or Otis Thorpe clogging the lane and spotting up from 10 ft.
@@kaaybomb That is certainly part of it. The promotion of offense to the detriment of defense, is more what I was alluding to.
@@IRequireMedication yeah but people were bitching about games ending 80-72 back then too
@@kaaybomb Yeah, the guys that watch a couple basketball games a year. Possessions were way fewer back then, with very few three point shot attempts. Paint and midrange game, real basketball. It's like they way they destroyed the NFL; Dump off passes into the flat and very little running game. Give me a Barry Sanders, Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson sweep any day.
Tell Schulz to lay off the adderall man
Did this dude really try to compare Larry Legend to Draymond Green???? lol 😂
You see how he got offended and said he didn't practice spot but jabs Larry when players didn't practice 3s back then
I appreciate JJ but he really doesn't grasp the greatness of Bird. None of these young pod hoodlums get it. He would fuck up anyone excluding MJ.
Draymond would of got his ass whooped in the 90s , someone like bird, rodman and on. If draymond pulled his cheap dirty bs on those boys Draymond would be running to the locker room crying
If Larry played in this era, he'd destroy 3PT records for his position. The game is different now, they shoot more 3s and if Bird shot more 3s, he would definitely be up there. JJ is wack on that narrative. Larry was a cold ass motherfucker.
Spot on bulls eye my man. Bird was fire
Reddick is a klutch sports client. He caters to the young gen and tickles their ears by downing the old guys.
Reddick is a Dan Majerle. Probably not even that good, because Thunder Dan was a better athlete and defender than Reddick ever was.
My point is that someone of that ilk isn't fit to be talking down on someone like Bird. Bird would've hung 50 on Reddick without breaking a sweat.
The worst part about Reddick is that kids buy this whole intellectual act by Reddick. He ain't smarter than any of the older players, who weren't AAU and were raised on fundamental basketball.
Plus he's no different than SAS or Nick Wright. He's just another hot take artist. The only difference is that he stooges even harder for LeBron and the current gen of players.
More trash TV.
Tell me you don’t watch basketball without telling me you don’t watch basketball
So what was JJ in his era...a Starbucks barista
MJ would be bored out his mind from the lack of competition today. He'd also have carpal tunnel trying to move his fingers with the four rings the each had on them
I would have loved to see a one on one between MJ and “plumber” reddick
When they clown him at the end is the best I swear ahahaha. The sarcasm is funny asf!
The fact that no-one spoke about the differences in rules, fouls etc. Invalidates any opinions or so called facts. This era of basketball is dry as heck and the viewing figures back that up
Exactly. JJ and his game would sell popcorns at the stadium in the 90's. 6ft4 spot up shooter who would never get a shot off and was a mediocre defensive player. That's a CBA contract in 1993.
Can't believe the Lakers made a podcast host an NBA coach. I remember when LA wasn't a clowshow organization.
Well that's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back
Curry Has The 12th Best Career 3pt Shooting % In History, Does That Mean He's Not A Top 5 Shooter Of All Time?
JJ is better than to sit with Schultz and his laugh track boys
Honestly the argument is sound. It works with any sport. Compare early MMA with modern MMA, the worst, lowest paid UFC fighter is beating the best fighters of the 90s and 00s
Most, at least some of the top 75 players in the past are the reason present players are so good. They learnt from and built upon past players.
With that said,of course a player like Bird would be great today if he had this version of NBA to be inspired by.
facts. they were all specialists originally. Gracie would have been murdered by anyone that could defend a takedown or strike a little.
This is poor logic and example of a failing educational system.
The difference between modern MMA and the past isn’t remotely the gap you’re insinuating. When is the last time human beings evolved?
Start there. Rules and the growth of the game is the difference.
More fighters mean a great variety of ability at top and bottom.
Put the past fighters down and have them watch todays MMA and they’d be just as good if not better.
Thats not an argument its called evolution.
its not sound to anyone with working eyes and over room temp IQ
Bird invented the 50/40/90 club. He was a great three-point shooter.
By JJ Redick's logic - these are OBJECTIVELY the 12 best 3-Point shooters of all time: Steve Kerr, Hubert Davis, Luke Kennard, Dražen Petrović, Joe Harris, Jason Kapono, Tim Legler, Seth Curry, Steve Novak, Kyle Korver, and Steve Nash. This list is made up of players who played in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. Clearly Steph Curry is not on JJ Redick's list as one of the top 5 or 10 3-point shooters of all time. OBJECTIVELY speaking.
JJ is gonna be upset when some kid calling wemby the goat is gonna bring down LBJ saying JJ is a plumber that couldn't guard anyone
“JJ and LeBron played against a bunch of Tweeters and Podcast hosts”
The skill of players today is at it's max. Not much will advance when it comes to the NBA. I doubt some kid will say that because skill level will be the same in the future.
@ozonespec that's what every generation thinks. Kids don't care. They will find their goat and put him on top
No ones going to call this generation plumbers and ice cream truck drivers. This era has Stephan Curry for crying out loud. Kevin Durant. Dirk Newitsky. Kobe Bryant. Kyrie Irving. Some of the most talented and skilled players ever. Tim Duncan, Joel Embiid, Nikola Jokic are probably the most skilled big men in nba history. Not to mention shaq diesel the most dominate big man ever which he didn’t become till the 2000s anyone who actually watches the game knows. that. Talent level has evolved too much to call these guys anything but professionals at their craft.
@Jet.Single kids...dont....care. w.e u grow up with u think is the best. It Can't get better than it is now and everything b4 u sucks. It never changes when it comes to music and sports.
Ur tune changes a little when u get older. But from this new generation they really go out of their way to disrespect what came b4 them. Wemby will be their goat. And when Currys 3 point record is broken they'll diss him the same
37 ppg easily becomes 40 in today's game
He’s a catch and shooter😂😂😂
.Pa-jeet.moment.
Jeff Hornacek the Utah plumber has greater stats than JJ and was an all star 😂😂
he didn’t play in the 50s
@@swindlek8061Cousey would cook JJ... you bronsexuals are trash lol
Hornacek was also about ten times better than JJ at everything, so that helps.
“Well they were less good “ 😂😂😂
The answer is Hail Naw!
That gliding through the air all slow, He’d fukc around and bite his tongue off 😂.
MJ would still be GOAT if he played today. If he came up now, AAU, 1 yr college to the Association he would have the modern skill set to dominate. He has John Wick will power.
John Wich is the Michael Jordan of assassins. 😆
So according to JJ REDDICK, Draymond Green was a better 3 point shooter than Larry Bird? OK...
That’s not at all what he said. Are you acoustic?
He didn't say it outright but he implied it and didn't caveat it. So it was a poor analysis.
So you can say Bird was a 37% career 3 point shooter at a time when the league avg was about 25 to 28% but he wasn't a great 3 point shooter? You just got through saying relative to the competition then what? That doesn't count in terms of 3 point shooting?
Honestly shulz was at his most insufferable during these two clips. First time a clip has made me not want to seek out the whole podcast.
Seethe, you bronsexual
don't ask Jj Reddick he's delusional
The guys that played in the Bird era went to the basket, they attacked the basket, the days before you could get kicked out of the game for a foul. The three point shot wasn't used as a weapon back then, it was used when needed. Today, it's a weapon that even the 7 footers use.
Must Asasssshhhh have a fake seizure when me laughs?
Contrarians must consistently be on brand, lest they cease to exist.
This was a tough watch with all the interrupting
Look at SKate boarding in the 90's compared to today. Ever heard of Tony hawk? He did "The 900" in 1999. There was a 7 year old who did it like last year. Sports evolve and so do the athletes. Point being they should be compared to the players of the time they were in not to modern time.
The sport didn’t evolve.
Someone broke the foundation of what was thought to be possible and pushed it further.
Are you silly enough to argue a child is better than Tony ?
The kid watched years of X sports that weren’t available to Hawk
He had to CREATE/INNOVATE while execute.
Not even close.
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 nope sports evolve because of better athletes/nutrition/information not because they "broke the foundation of what was possible" lmfao
@@misinfluence That’s my point.
The sport didn’t evolve.
Medicine did.
Training evolved.
Film study.
Athletes like Hawk pushed the potential of a what was possible.
Really simple shit to get.
Any basic understanding of human evolution would let you know your comment is less than an intelligent stance.
Players from the 80s-90s played throughout the 00s-10s.
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 I think you missed the point.
In full context, tell how many 3s were taken back then as opposed to now.
So many ppl from the past would absolutely demolish records in today's nba. Jordan, bird, Reggie Miller, ray Allen, Steve Kerr, glen rice, peja, dirk....today's nba rules and officiating is 100% set up for offensive scoring and particularly 3s. No defense whatsoever. That's why stats from the past 10 years are pretty much irrelevant bc they are bloated stats that would never happen without those changes. Some players would still be great like curry, kd, etc but they wouldn't be in the record setting conversations. It's way harder to score when you can't take 3 steps and shoot it or when you have a guy on defense who is allowed to hand check you and play body to body.
I would love to see JJ debate Skip Bayless on this subject 😆
Why even have a guest on if you don't let them talk lmao
Dell curry , Larry bird , mark price , John Paxson ,Craig Hodges , and downtown Freddie Brown would have loved todays game of unlimited threes …
COUSY with 80 years old at halft time in a nba game shoot 10 for 10 ft..
D.COWENS shoot 5 straight left hand FT shoots when he was 90 years old
It makes me want to give the 'ole "yuccckkk" again by the great Jimmy Norton on O&A when I listen to comedians interrupt a former nba player about basketball. Jesus Christ
man let him talk bro
The janitor comment was right in the 1950s and early 60s only 2 players played basketball full time as there career Cousy and Russell changed in mid 60s onwards as became more professional. Then again Russell would be top 5 talent today 6'10 athletic high IQ amazing defender.
rules changed carry traveling be called
Maybe he'll be a better coach than a player😂
LET HIM TALKKK GODDAMNIT!!!
I think JJ makes generally good points, but safe to say if Bird wanted to be the best 3 point shooter he could have done that. Maybe the facts don't merit it but the game let him take other shots more often. So his greatness is what his gen of rivals and players are balking at. Potential vs fact of a transcendent player who could will the basketball almost anywhere.
JJ Redick should be ask or search about Alejandro Carmona Try High School , Ohio hahahaah He Schooled Lebron like a baby.
But they only talked about Jordan for like 20 seconds. What?
Everything evolves...basketball...life...science...and on and on
The irony of the entire "we done with the 90's" campaign is that the premium placed on raw athleticism and power of players peaked
in the 1990's - early 2000's. This is because of the rules that were in place at the time. The only guys winning MVPs in the 1990's looked
like and were built like Michael Jordan, Olajuwon, Shaq, and David Robinson. As soon as the NBA started changing the rules to make
the game easier for less athletic players, Steve Nash and other international players started to win MVPs. And now we have the league
that we have today.
Talking points after talking points.
@@kevaughnramsay9846 Show me where I lied.
This is gospel.
Constant interruption AND a Clickbate Header? Come on flagrant 😤
OMG I was just going to comment that the incessant interruptions are annoying AF (green plaid shirt moustache) when I saw that the pinned comment said the same thing 😂😂
“These browns try to take us down “ lol😂
Why invite people if u are gonna talk over em
Could he compete???? Man would dominate with ease
The level of stupidity in that room is depressing.
Reddick looks uncomfortable
More likely than the people of this channel being able to count to five
Jerry West called him out on the plumbers and firemen BS lol. He took a break from ESPN and didnt reply to it. REPLY TO THE MAN.
No need to lie to push your narrative. You can support it with facts. Bending narratives like this suggests a lack of confidence.
@@sunnygee5521 googles your friend
JJ likes the LBJ nuts too much to say anything objective about him. He's a welp
coming from a twerp
Yeah he's one of those Klutz sports propagandists
Yes you are
JJ is a kiosk salesman.
Please let the guest talk
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! WOULD YOU LET YOUR GUEST SPEAK WITHOUT CUTTING HIM OFF EVERY TIME?! HOLY FUCK!
Greatness is always relative to competition. Sure Tracy McGrady would be better than most players but thats not how it works.
In the olympics the 100m sprinters today are better than everybody in history but they arent greater.
4:10 Larry Bird won the three point contest three times. I think it was in three consecutive years.
4/20/24, 7:13 p.m.
Reddixk doesn’t understand how much the rules have changed the game. scoring is a lot easier when you can carry the ball and hand check. it changes the game from a big man’s game to a guards game.
The fake hair on this set is distracting.
these 40 yr olds giggling and bro-ing out instead of letting their guest speak
the fact the even asking, is DISRESPECTFUL! ...the sports media is getting worse!
And yet JJ, good as he was on those claimed categories remained unknown for most. And yes, let him speak then roast after if needs be.
I always like to say MJ would be a SGA on steroids in today's NBA, similar in built & play style but with a 48-inch vert, he'd be unguardable.
Actually Bird won 3 consecutive three point shooting contests. Bird was an all around basketball player who attended the contests against specialists. So for him , a 6'9" rebounding forward its much more impressive than say a Craig Hodges. Reddick is remiss in not adding that
Mike would be banned for gambling/DUI in this era
if the game evolved, they were better players in their time... also assumes that they couldnt LEARN and adjust to the league today given the same comforts! ....3 point shooting stats are misleading bc ppl shoot them alot more, Bird would def be up there wit Ray and them if he played today!
What's funny is the guy who started the trend (Mike Peek) is like 40 lol
JJ never won a 3 point contest wow
The people who go after Skip Bayless for being clearly haven't listened to JJ. 😮
jj willingly ignores birds game winners and go ahead shots that make him better than jj overall
Wait, are you comparing the two or think they’re even in the same stratosphere??!! Redick was a role player who’s teams went nowhere
The era didn’t allow Larry Bird to be solidified as a top 5 3pt shooter, that’s facts. He doesn’t have a high enough volume and he doesn’t even have a high enough efficiency on a lower volume. It’s simple
Good question but annoying hosts
common let the guest speak!
Furthermore, though Bird hit less 3 pointers than alot of guys today. The entire league shot less 3 pointers than they do today. I dont think Reddick truly grasps how terrifically diverse Birds skills were
Bird never practiced 3s nearly as much in his era as he would in today's era because they were never relied upon and he was still one of the greatest shooters of all time. If he played in today's era he would be practicing 3s nonstop and would probably shoot 43+% from 3 for his career.
Incredibly stupid to say Bird wasn’t one of the best 3pt shooters ever. Clearly his era didn’t prioritize the same approach today’s era has to shooting 3’s. However, in a 3pt shooting contest, Bird showed how good he was at shooting 3’s. Who cares if JJ can tell you what degree a player’s release point is at? How does at all imply that he was a better 3pt shooter than Bird or at all able to say who is or isn’t a good shooter? It just seems like there is a conflation between shooting volume and ability. Any player who isn’t primarily a 3pt shooter is likely to have much less 3pt shots/ game. That doesn’t speak to shooting ability
What would any of that have to do with his percentage? If he was that great to be called the best ever he would have a good shooting percentage. You can't say duck his percentage didn't you see that 3 point contest 😂
@@colereviewsyt if taking 3’s is not part of the game plan, when do you think 3’s will be taken? Likely end of play clock or Hail Mary-type situations. Whereas in a 3pt contest, the whole point is to test someone’s 3pt shooting ability, albeit in a restricted sense, which is fine to make a note of. My point is that if the era/ coaching didn’t favor 3pt shooting, the 3pt shot selection will be so vastly different than what we have today that just relying on percentage is a bad way to measure how good a shooter someone is. Also, Bird’s role on offense wasn’t a shooter role. That also adds to the type of shots he would be taking. JJ is an entertainer and has to generate views via hot takes to keep eyes on and generate money. He is doing what he has to do.
@@colereviewsyt if taking 3’s is not part of the game plan, when do you think 3’s will be taken? Likely end of play clock or Hail Mary-type situations. Whereas in a 3pt contest, the whole point is to test someone’s 3pt shooting ability, albeit in a restricted sense, which is fine to make a note of. My point is that if the era/ coaching didn’t favor 3pt shooting, the 3pt shot selection will be so vastly different than what we have today that just relying on percentage is a bad way to measure how good a shooter someone is. Also, Bird’s role on offense wasn’t a shooter role. That also adds to the type of shots he would be taking. JJ is an entertainer and has to generate views via hot takes to keep eyes on and generate money. He is doing what he has to do.
No that doesn't mean that more than likely they were taken at the end, it means they just preferred to try to get a 2 as opposed a 3. There isn't going to be any way they's absolutely perfect but percentages is a lot better than saying I won a 3 point contest. A 3 point contest there's no defense. There's no restriction, you get to have a perfect rhythm. It's the equivalent of a QB pro day..... Has nothing to do with how good a QB they really are.
And JJ is far from just an entertainer. There literally isn't more than 20 people walking that has the experience and expertise of actually playing the game and taking 3 point shots..... And you are talking like he's a random guy in TH-cam comments that doesn't know what he's talking about. That's crazy
@@colereviewsyt it’s an imperfect comparison because you are comparing two incredibly different eras so the commonalities is what you gotta put the most on in terms of comparison. That would be the 3pt contest. It would be odd if Tom Brady was missing most throws during practice, but had amazing completion pct in games. Everyone who is good at shooting 3’s should do well in a 3pt contest. It would be odd if you only knew how to make 3’s when guarded but air-balled routinely when practicing alone. JJ NOW is an entertainer. He has to get eyes and ears.
When JJ Redick is trying to say good things about Larry Bird, I just don't believe him. It seems like he doesn't believe it either. It seemed like he just want to get off the hot seat. Just my opinion.
where the f was the "Could Michael Jordan Compete in Today’s NBA" part?!??
Fact: Bird got 50/40/90 twice. Bird almost got it 4x, but fell short by a fraction of a percent on FTs and FGs.
With the way they don’t play defense anymore hell yeah he would dominate. At least 30 to 40 per game.
Could he compete? 😂😂
MJ plays Defense and gets buckets in the clutch. He would be an asset to any team in any era
You could project Bird as being one of the greatest three point shooters. He shot pretty well even without focusing on it as a major part of his game. Looking strictly at what was... there's no point in that. Bird coming up today would have a threeball.
JJ STARTED THAT SHIT.
JJ is a bit of troll. But these dudes need to let him talk and finish a sentence
Can the man talk!