RV shopping (overwhelming) but fun. Tiring, yes and your last video was spot on also. LOL, 500 degree sink. Sort of like using your stove for other than storage...haha.
I know this is old - but its very relevant and valuable. Ive been to three shows now. I had to sit down and "reset" so I could focus on my purpose for being there: to try the floorplan on for size (im well over 6' and looking for a small trailer for solo boonie runs for several months at a time) and to evaluate the build quality of brands and model lines (boy are they pretty crappy)
Our buying process took several years, and involved going to more than 4 RV shows in two different cities. I can give viewers this advice: First, DO NOT buy a rig at your first show! At our first show, we had no real idea of what we were looking at, or looking for. Get ideas. Collect brochures. Talk to dealers. Find out how many dealers are out there and where they are. Different dealers go to different shows. After that first show you can start your research in earnest. You'll learn that there's a floorplan for everything and everything has a floor plan. That's when you think about the kind of camping you want to do (which, as they say, is a whole 'nother video). Next, "show pricing" may or may not be show pricing. That may well be the same retail price that you find on the lot. NEVER assume that "show pricing" is a good deal. What we did was created a spreadsheet of over 100 models from a dozen dealers and entered the prices we saw at shows as well as pricing from their websites. We thought this would be a good way to track pricing as a year went along. What we found was that it was pretty rare that prices fluctuated on a cyclical basis and that they seldom went down. We learned that dealers are actually very good at forecasting and inventory maintenance. There's definitely a science to it and they know their methods better than any of us do. But where David's advice is best is that if you're going to buy a camper at a show, then go knowing EXACTLY which model (or models if you have more than one finalist) you are going to buy. DON'T go to the show undecided and DON'T change your mind. If you change your mind, then you weren't ready. Finally, what a show is also really good for is to help you decide on your dealer. Every dealer is different. Knowing your dealer is nearly as important knowing the manufacturer. In the end, we bought a much different camper from a manufacturer I had not known when we started from a dealer who didn't treat me as another mark. Thanks for the series! These videos are helping me in my after purchase analysis to see what I did wrong and not repeat those mistakes. Hopefully there won't be many :)
Knowledge is power and there is plenty out there that can teach you about sales people than buying into this. Learn to walk away and do not pay for something your not comfortable with.
There are Azdel trailers, and you're right, they are not aluminum siding, they are fiberglass. Azdel is much better than luan, or some other wood siding. She ws smart to look for it, It may cost a little more, but there are many advantages. I hope by the time I buy a 5th wheel, Azdell will be used by Forest River.
Great question! But it's not an easy or straightforward answer. These videos are part of a 7 hour video series that covers all of that information and answers questions most don't know to ask. It's only $97 at rvmasters.com so consider that if you're in the market!
I do not think that is much of a problem with newer models. With all new technologies there are teething problems. I would predict that aluminum framing with some type of composite or fiberglass siding will replace the older aluminum and wood frame models. Newer materials are being developed that are lots stronger than current ones, while being as much as 30% lighter. This would allow for future trailers that are 30' long being the same weight as current trailers that are only 20' long. This could also mean you can have shorter trailers with larger heavy items like refrigerators and batteries, that would be still towable, but have adequate room and power.
I went to your web site. Is this the "C.U.R.V. Buyer's Track" series? After watching your previous videos, I doubt I'll buy an rv, but am interested in buying the videos, if I can find the right series. Thanks.
This is a small part of my nearly 7 hour series on how to buy an RV. So yes, it's the "Buyer's Track" that you're looking for. Let me know if you need any further help!
RV masters- if you have 3 units you're interested in- all are different manufacturers with similiar floor plans. All 3 are in good shape, then what's the deciding factor....price?
That is a great question! Unfortunately, it doesn't have an easy answer. I literally have a 7 hour video course JUST on buying the right RV - there is a LOT to consider that most people don't learn about until after they buy. You might want to consider looking at that at rvmasters.com. This video you just watched is only ONE video of I think 23. To give you the best answer I can, in my opinion, price is rarely in the top 3 reasons to buy. There are other more important things to consider. Thanks for watching!
RV Masters that was a decent non-answer (I am really not trying to be nasty here...). I really do appreciate your honesty and assistance except I also feel that underneath it is your *strong* pitching of the series to be found at the .com site. I’ve just finished the 4th of your 4 part series that had lots of valuable information however, to be totally honest, I felt like you were consistently giving a hard pitch for the ‘other’ series we just *had* to buy to get ALL the information we needed to buy the right rv. Again, no hostility here just observation and my personal feelings. Thank you for making this series because I did learn more from you!
@@katgilmore2232 LOL, thanks for responding! I created a 7 hour course on things people need to know as they look for and buy an RV. There's nothing else even close to that on the market. Obviously I can't dump all of that knowledge in a TH-cam response. Yes, there is tremendous value in the coursework that I designed, and it's incredibly inexpensive for the content that is delivered. So I try to give away some good content that helps people for taking the time to watch it, and if they like it and they're really interested in digging deeper then of course there's more available. So it's hard to answer your question on what the best RV to buy is, because it took me 7 hours to explain it with a camera! Lol. As always, thanks for watching!
Buying a RV, MSRP 147000, on sale price 99999, I'm not sure this is the lowest or this is the starting price? Never pay MSRP. Do you think still have room for lower price? Hope you will help
Starting. I've rarely seen situations where a dealer truly blows out an RV at or below cost. It does happen in one-off's, or aged units, or for internal motivations... but I'd suspect there is still $10,000 to play with in there... and don't forget accessories like tow bars, service, sewage/adapters, etc....
If you lost a sale because you couldn't get past a "500 degree sink" objection, you are an unprofessional hack - or you're lying. I'm going with the latter. And the Azdel objection, why couldn't YOU explain and educate the customer about it? It was YOUR failure. STEAR CLEAR OF THIS GUY, PEOPLE. HE IS TRYING TO SCARE YOU INTO THINKING YOU NEED HIS "TRAINING". REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS!
Thanks for watching! I don't need to scare people into my training. Some come to believe they need training and appreciate further information that will help them make better decisions. Some are arrogant and just peruse TH-cam to troll what they don't perceive as having value or being needed. To each his own. :)
That comment about the sink was funny as hell lol new to rv education and i love these videos
Great series, very useful. Just watched all 4. Great channel.
Thanks! I hope it helps!
RV shopping (overwhelming) but fun. Tiring, yes and your last video was spot on also. LOL, 500 degree sink. Sort of like using your stove for other than storage...haha.
I know this is old - but its very relevant and valuable. Ive been to three shows now. I had to sit down and "reset" so I could focus on my purpose for being there: to try the floorplan on for size (im well over 6' and looking for a small trailer for solo boonie runs for several months at a time) and to evaluate the build quality of brands and model lines (boy are they pretty crappy)
Great tips on the deal at the RV show! Thanks for your advice.
This has been so helpful, even though I'm on my 4th one
Our buying process took several years, and involved going to more than 4 RV shows in two different cities. I can give viewers this advice: First, DO NOT buy a rig at your first show! At our first show, we had no real idea of what we were looking at, or looking for. Get ideas. Collect brochures. Talk to dealers. Find out how many dealers are out there and where they are. Different dealers go to different shows. After that first show you can start your research in earnest. You'll learn that there's a floorplan for everything and everything has a floor plan. That's when you think about the kind of camping you want to do (which, as they say, is a whole 'nother video).
Next, "show pricing" may or may not be show pricing. That may well be the same retail price that you find on the lot. NEVER assume that "show pricing" is a good deal. What we did was created a spreadsheet of over 100 models from a dozen dealers and entered the prices we saw at shows as well as pricing from their websites. We thought this would be a good way to track pricing as a year went along. What we found was that it was pretty rare that prices fluctuated on a cyclical basis and that they seldom went down. We learned that dealers are actually very good at forecasting and inventory maintenance. There's definitely a science to it and they know their methods better than any of us do.
But where David's advice is best is that if you're going to buy a camper at a show, then go knowing EXACTLY which model (or models if you have more than one finalist) you are going to buy. DON'T go to the show undecided and DON'T change your mind. If you change your mind, then you weren't ready.
Finally, what a show is also really good for is to help you decide on your dealer. Every dealer is different. Knowing your dealer is nearly as important knowing the manufacturer. In the end, we bought a much different camper from a manufacturer I had not known when we started from a dealer who didn't treat me as another mark.
Thanks for the series! These videos are helping me in my after purchase analysis to see what I did wrong and not repeat those mistakes. Hopefully there won't be many :)
Great videos!
Knowledge is power and there is plenty out there that can teach you about sales people than buying into this. Learn to walk away and do not pay for something your not comfortable with.
#DavidCrosset thank you for the time and effort to make this an excellent series!
Never by a car because of the radio.
What about these virtual RV shows. Any deals to made?
We really do need the anti zombie doors.
There are Azdel trailers, and you're right, they are not aluminum siding, they are fiberglass. Azdel is much better than luan, or some other wood siding. She ws smart to look for it, It may cost a little more, but there are many advantages. I hope by the time I buy a 5th wheel, Azdell will be used by Forest River.
We have been told that we should only buy Winnebago because they make all their own parts. True??
Silly? So what I want to know what is the bottom line when ‘making the deal’? How low in price can you get a dealership to lower their price?
Great question! But it's not an easy or straightforward answer. These videos are part of a 7 hour video series that covers all of that information and answers questions most don't know to ask. It's only $97 at rvmasters.com so consider that if you're in the market!
So why not Azdel over Aluminum frame and skin?
Why not put cardboard over titanium? Not needed.
I wouldn't buy an aluminum siding style RV because they have wooden frames and usually high maintenance roofs.
Then two pieces molded fiberglass camper is the answer. That was easy.
I do not think that is much of a problem with newer models. With all new technologies there are teething problems. I would predict that aluminum framing with some type of composite or fiberglass siding will replace the older aluminum and wood frame models. Newer materials are being developed that are lots stronger than current ones, while being as much as 30% lighter. This would allow for future trailers that are 30' long being the same weight as current trailers that are only 20' long. This could also mean you can have shorter trailers with larger heavy items like refrigerators and batteries, that would be still towable, but have adequate room and power.
I went to your web site. Is this the "C.U.R.V. Buyer's Track" series? After watching your previous videos, I doubt I'll buy an rv, but am interested in buying the videos, if I can find the right series. Thanks.
This is a small part of my nearly 7 hour series on how to buy an RV. So yes, it's the "Buyer's Track" that you're looking for. Let me know if you need any further help!
RV masters- if you have 3 units you're interested in- all are different manufacturers with similiar floor plans. All 3 are in good shape, then what's the deciding factor....price?
That is a great question! Unfortunately, it doesn't have an easy answer. I literally have a 7 hour video course JUST on buying the right RV - there is a LOT to consider that most people don't learn about until after they buy. You might want to consider looking at that at rvmasters.com. This video you just watched is only ONE video of I think 23. To give you the best answer I can, in my opinion, price is rarely in the top 3 reasons to buy. There are other more important things to consider. Thanks for watching!
RV Masters that was a decent non-answer (I am really not trying to be nasty here...). I really do appreciate your honesty and assistance except I also feel that underneath it is your *strong* pitching of the series to be found at the .com site. I’ve just finished the 4th of your 4 part series that had lots of valuable information however, to be totally honest, I felt like you were consistently giving a hard pitch for the ‘other’ series we just *had* to buy to get ALL the information we needed to buy the right rv. Again, no hostility here just observation and my personal feelings. Thank you for making this series because I did learn more from you!
@@katgilmore2232 LOL, thanks for responding! I created a 7 hour course on things people need to know as they look for and buy an RV. There's nothing else even close to that on the market. Obviously I can't dump all of that knowledge in a TH-cam response. Yes, there is tremendous value in the coursework that I designed, and it's incredibly inexpensive for the content that is delivered. So I try to give away some good content that helps people for taking the time to watch it, and if they like it and they're really interested in digging deeper then of course there's more available. So it's hard to answer your question on what the best RV to buy is, because it took me 7 hours to explain it with a camera! Lol. As always, thanks for watching!
Buying a RV, MSRP 147000, on sale price 99999, I'm not sure this is the lowest or this is the starting price? Never pay MSRP. Do you think still have room for lower price? Hope you will help
Starting. I've rarely seen situations where a dealer truly blows out an RV at or below cost. It does happen in one-off's, or aged units, or for internal motivations... but I'd suspect there is still $10,000 to play with in there... and don't forget accessories like tow bars, service, sewage/adapters, etc....
If you lost a sale because you couldn't get past a "500 degree sink" objection, you are an unprofessional hack - or you're lying. I'm going with the latter. And the Azdel objection, why couldn't YOU explain and educate the customer about it? It was YOUR failure. STEAR CLEAR OF THIS GUY, PEOPLE. HE IS TRYING TO SCARE YOU INTO THINKING YOU NEED HIS "TRAINING". REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS!
Thanks for watching! I don't need to scare people into my training. Some come to believe they need training and appreciate further information that will help them make better decisions. Some are arrogant and just peruse TH-cam to troll what they don't perceive as having value or being needed. To each his own. :)