As I watched this video, I tried to think of a way to fully express how well done this video was. From the information you conveyed to your delivery, I have seldom seen a more value-packed TH-cam video and I watch a ton of them. You sir deserve some kind of award for presenting the information you do. The best I can come up with is that your video is at the information transference level of a TED talk!!!!! Kudos to you and the service you are providing your subscribers. All the best! Dan.
Thank you so much for watching! Remember, this is only ONE of many many videos I have on this subject at rvmasters.com... there's a lot more to it! I'm always hopeful this content will help people... thanks again for watching!
Yes!!- That's it-- a TED talk. As I watched and learned, I knew that this reminded me of videos that I had recently seen. I know that there is some editing, but your flow and connection to the audience (your students) is spot on.
Regarding negotiation: do NOT take your kids to a haggle! Remember that you do not NEED to buy an RV. The salesman needs to sell one. YOU have ALL the power in this process. Be willing to walk away.
" Buy vs sell" Themagic 3 little words! I didn't know, was DECIEVED by both dealers, "RV" WRITER'S! THREE big WORDS! "MISERY NEEDS COMPANY!" SECOND BIGGEST MISTAKE I EVER MADE IN MY LIFE! ~ First was leaving the WOMB!~. 🤯☠️
Great Video. I worked in the industry for a short time and can attest to everything you said. I was the only person that owned an RV out of the entire staff.
This was an incredibly helpful and enlightening video. My wife and I have been entertaining this RV lifestyle for 2 years - 4 RV shows - thousands of you tube videos, but we have not visited a dealer (yet). (I am not retired!) I despise car dealerships and I am sure RV dealers are even worse. Besides where I live (NE-NJ), RV'ing is NOT popular, and the closest dealers are 1.5 hours north (to NY state) west (to PA) or south to the jersey shore. For over 10 years, every car I leased, I only go to the dealer AFTER we determine the down payment and monthly payment thru emails. This is a difficult task - even these days. Then I will inspect, test drive, and complete the transaction if satisfied. They are all snakes, and most likely the RV dealers are the worst as you say !!! Again, thanks for these warnings and tips - some of which I heard already - you are providing a GREAT public service !!! We all thank you !!!!
Thanks for a comprehensive View of the industry and the lifestyle. So much to think about. So many pitfalls. Unfortunately, I don't know of any consumer systematic scientific reports of the manufacturers and some of their models. You suggest they are all about the same but I understand some, like Airstream or Winnebago, should be of better quality - not merely more luxurious. Perhaps you cannot name names. Naturally, anything that runs down the road is going to have stresses put on it that would cause rattles, cracks and loosening. Using screws rather than nails or staples should be one thing that would help but I don't know which mfrs build in durability and ruggedness. The lack of a place to park it or hook it up, on the the road is a stumbling block to selling that puts a damper on the whole idea. I see loosening of parking laws in California due to an affordable housing crisis but I wouldn't want to infringe on property owners. Maybe I will take the plunge, maybe not.
I just posted video 3 in the "classroom" - this is a paid training series available at www.rvmasters.com for ONLY $64! I post a new video each week, although I'm ahead of schedule and trying to get them all out sooner than later. This is an introductory price, and it gets EVEN better from here if you can believe it. What's posted now is all the free content we can provide so you can see how much information is packed in our training. Check it out at www.rvmasters.com!
90% of people buying used rv frst think they do ,looking inside rv floor plan ,colors of cabinets ,condition of furniture and so on.When i buy rv first i open engine compartment ,condition of engine compartments tell sign of ownership, air filter ,fuel filter ,air dryer ,coolant , when i ask owner when you change air filter last time he told me just recently ,when i open housing filter element was completely clog second look at filters and radiator i make my decision right there ,traveling 2 h to see this unit i make decision not to buy ,remember my friends engine compartment can take huge amount of money ,just for new radiator on 45 f rv with 500hp engine can cost over 5.000 $.
Like I said I'm on my 4th one you are right on .I didn't know any one else LOLHAHA had them problems thanks and I did buy the wrong one this last time for my needs dam it. Well I'll make the best of it..
Having owned 7 motorhomes in the last 35 years, I would say that the first thing a potential RV buyer should do, is to rent different RVs in similar styles to what they might purchase, the first year. Also, the potential buyers need to address the fact of where are they going to store their RV. I have found that the best place to store one, is at home, if you have the space and the town that allows it. We are lucky where we live to have a space I created that has water, electricity and a sewer outlet. Also, think about sun protection and also be aware that you might live in an area where you need to winterize your RV. This is very important so do your research. I have always bought used and most of the time it has turned out good. I prefer Ford chassis and motors. Presently I have a V10 motor and so far it has been reliable and the performance up hills, etc. is quite good, but it cannot pass a gas station very well. I stay far away from Mercede$ (had one that cost tons of money to keep running). There are thousands of Ford dealers around the country, but not too many Mercedes dealers, plus the cost of parts can be crazy high. When you Google for parts, type in "Made In USA" plus your item. Stay far away from any "Made In China" parts, and especially plastic items. Good luck and happy camping.
I knew a lot of this, but not all, I have been in sales for a long time, never RV sales though. I am finding it is a little different. I research everything before I buy to make sure I am getting what I am going to need, for the purpose I am buying the product for, if that makes sense. I am going to sell the 3Bed room home that I have lived in for almost 30 years. I have been looking for a well made long-lasting travel trailer, that I can live in full time. I have found the Rock Wood by Forest River is a better-made product than most. I am looking at the Signature series, this is the upgraded version of the trailer that I like. I was wondering if you have any thoughts about this brand. You know a lot more than I do when it comes to this product. When I was in sales, no matter what the product was there was always the best product for the money, fewer returns, build better, longer-lasting. It was not always the most expensive, but the best buy for the money spent. I find this in the Rock Wood Signature series. would you agree? The flagstaff seems to be made by the same company, Forest River. they look the same to me, It seemed the Flagstaff was a little cheaper in price, but like you said no two are alike or I might have missed an add on, between the two. After looking for about 3 months now, I like the Rockwood 8332BS signature series. Rear Kitchen, 3 pull-outs, full-size refrigerator. larger oven on the stove, larger microwave. the 2 pull-outs across from one another, makes for a lot of room in the kitchen and living room area. All fiberglass on the outside aluminum framing, instead of wood. Lighter, stronger. Do you think I will be making a good choice with this trailer? Thanks for the informative videos you make. I am glad I found one of your videos. I am going to watch all of them. Thank you for your time.
Great question! My quick response: Though people have reported problems with the customer service/warranty aspect of Forest River, it's also true that Rockwood is considered by many to be a top tier brand. Of course, within that brand there is varying quality (unit to unit), but the people that I know that have a Rockwood love it. Remember I have a whole series of videos on my website rvmasters.com. Be sure to check out the hours and hours of content available for purchase there, guaranteed to save you thousands on your purchase! Thanks for watching!
Please make a video on the top 5 brands for durability/resale value/build quality for a $20k-$40k travel trailer! In other words, what brands to people "in the know" buy. Thanks!!!!
@@vjames1310 I bought his $97 course and he does an excellent job of telling you about the brands, not by name but tells you how they are all alike and how they are different. and what to look for. you could easily choose an RV with his advice.
Artic Fox! I've transported over 100 RV's ,all towables and have owned 3 myself so I do have a dog in this hunt ! I actually have spent time inside them and mostly all were under built ! Northwood builds Artic Fox in Oregon. The big companies all manufacture there's in Indiana. Don't trust me, go into any Northwood's built RV with a thermometer than go into any other brand ! You can even feel the difference without the thermometer ! They claim to be built for "off road" use too! Try renting different coaches (brands) before you choose then give Northwoods a try ! Or become an RV transporter yourself so you can test out different companies😊
There are NO lemon laws for RV's. Camping World knows this, any buyer that does not is Camping World's lawful prey. I rate Camping World AAA...Avoid, Avoid, Avoid.
With the amount of "full time" RV'ers out there, no wonder their rigs break down. Like you said, most if not all RV's aren't built or meant to be used all year round, and for such a long period of time. Only for light usage for the summer period. Hence the reason cargo vans are selling like hot cakes and so many more people are converting them to be used full time. Your thoughts?
I have been RVing for 50+ years and agree with what you say. I also have training in sales and know many of the tricks they pull. I tell them what I am willing to pay tax, title, and out the door. Buy based on price not payment. I never take a trade in with me nor tell them any information about what I have until the price is set. 90% of the time you'll do better if you already have the financing arranged.
EDITED: Recent comments inspired me to edit this response from awhile ago: I actually don't recommend holding back the trade. Ultimately I think you should be upfront with the salesperson - I have a lot more to say about that in my training. But people do it, for sure.
How is it dishonest? I want to know what the real price of the unit is. If they ask if I have I trade in, I say that is not relevant to the price of their unit. I want the price it will cost for me to take it home, period. You'd be surprised how little they actually give on a trade-ins.
They typically give about 60-75 percent of wholesale book value, because then the dealer has to turn around and sell your trade at a profit in order to stay in business. That is only a surprise to the naive.
I can attest to the terrible service, I bought mine new, spent the first 30 days in the shop due to it nearly falling apart (avenger by forest river) got it home and more issues due the the dealer breaking alot of things, one of the techs even admitted that he took great PRIDE in DESTROYING people's rvs, and doing things to just ruin the owner's experience, and the dealer owner didn't care, it even spent 3 months in the shop due to the tanks not reading properly because they were never wired up, was even told by the manufacturer that the warranty on my BRAND NEW CAMPER was only good for the first 90 minutes after the paper work is done
Oh, Peterrabbit, I haven't even started explaining the process yet! One of these videos goes into great detail about the actual sale - what the salesperson is thinking, how you're going to be greeted and treated, and the actual negotiation and what's happening with the numbers and the multiple trips to the "sales managers office"... so if you liked this, there's a LOT more where that came from!
Excellent advice. He nailed it when talking about the service issues especially in the warm months. We needed a new side mirror and some minor paint- 4 MONTHS at the dealer. When we finally picked it up all the batteries were dead. $800.
If you say that there is only a handful of companies that supply the manufactures with parts, then why doesn't the dealers stock the few parts on the shelf? It seems like a runaround to me. Sounds like a great opportunity for a fully stocked service department to step up and be the God of RV service. Great videos!! Really appreciate the information.
So wondering about this with depreciation.. Say we purchase a new RV for $180k which is 30% off MSRP, then put down another $30k for down payment. Would this be a good scenario for a purchase? Seems it would knock out at least the first year depreciation and possibly the 2nd years too. Thanks!!!
I agree with previous viewer. This RV video was full of stuff that I was not even aware of but seemed very obvious. Great job! . Our salesman admittengly said he did not have an RV he was into boats And he was the top salesman for the whole dealership
When I lived in the Florida keys, during the winter the islands were full of all types of RVs of course. It appeared the common denominator amongst many of them were the decals that stated "We're spending our kid's inheritance". Cheers
So if you really want an RV to do what you want it to and you want to LIVE out of it like you want to, custom build. From the ground up. Might be just as expensive or more. Might also take more time, but you would have as close to EXACTLY like you want.
My wife and I made the mistake of buying our first trailer by not realizing what really worked for us and yes a costly mistake. We bought a 2008 Used KZ Spree210 for 15k in 2015. September 2017 we replaced with a 2018 Coleman 263bhe (which we enjoy). We could not sell it for blue book value that we used as a trade for 5k. A lesson learned.
uv tire protective covers for rv? BUY THEM or at least cover them with spray/ wipe, formula 303, HEAVY and black 55 gal drum liners: two per tire! If they are not turning or in a garage with the doors closed and window shades down. Unless you can take them off every day and bring enough in da house? China/ Korea Or even: MADE IN THE USA! They will each try to meet the LOWEST STANDARD POSSIABLE and charge the HIGHEST price imangineable! Brand New ST tires will disinergrate at 63.1 mph at maximum pressure, sooner if the get sun burned?😡 Harbor freight $10. Wal-Mart $20 : garbage bag? 20 year supply $8. Unless they have a sale? Price coffins, 2 adults + X number of kids & pets - sub- total subtract the above and finish the math?🙄
I am not going to watch a series of videos to find an answer to this question- does he bring up how the association of rv dealers actively lobby against rv lemon laws? You know cars and trucks made or sold in the United States are covered by lemon laws right? Well not rvs! In fact the association of rv dealers recently declared a "victory" in Oklahoma and Connecticut when they successfully lobbied to defeat rv lemon laws in those states! Anyone? Any clue?
It just sounds like the RV doesn’t know shit about what they’re actually selling, don’t want to take ownership for the poor quality of the coach, and has poorly trained salespeople. What a crock of shit! Thank God I decided to not buy one of these shit mobiles!
Thank you so much for helping people like me that wanted to sell my beautiful home and hit the road thinking it would be so easy, Im glad you care enough to help people understand that there is so much more to it then what I thought.
Your videos are great! Hilarious that you are selling them on your website. That was disappointing to see. I can guarantee you that you’d get thousands more by uploading them to TH-cam.
What a difference a few years makes when you talk about depreciation. Now a seller can make almost as much on their used RV as they did when they bought it new.
The Auto Industry used to be like that. You had to be aware of "Running Inline Production Modifications," The Auto Industry handled it by listing vehicles by Year and "batch number," when they changed a particular part out. The last company I know that did that was International Harvester with their Scout in the Late 60's, but other smaller companies like Studebaker, Checker Cab Car company and American motors did that until the late 1950's and early 60's. They used this system last on Postal Jeeps. I was wondering if the RV industry might be doing the same when they have to change out a vendor for a particular part.
I've worked for a supplier to all the big OEM auto manufacturers for 20 years. Every single one allows for running changes during the model year of production. It's much more a formalized process from decades ago, but I can assure you that a car you buy at the start of a model year is NOT made from the same design level of parts at the beginning. Things happen... sub suppliers go out of business or we are forced to make design changes to lower the piece price.
Mine has 3" walls and real fiberglass insulation. Double pane windows. Very comfortable in summer and winter but mine was made for full-time living and it of course was expensive. Like almost everything else in life, you get what you pay for.
The link in your earlier video brought me here and I'm glad it did, this was way better in a way that will appease the angry crowd that watch or watched the other one first. Research is key and much easier to do these days, customers have a head start if they do some and more if they do more. Understanding and learning about sales should benefit in life as it's such a big part of it, buying or selling. Cheers for doing this one, impressive indeed.
Just got back from a trip and my black tank hose didn't have the right connector for my 50 gallon wheeled tote. . I ended up dumping half a gallon at a time of poop soup into the tote . . . so not cool. Only thing I missed hahaha crappy situation for sure.
Is it better to buy from Factory compared to buying it from a dealership I'm planning on going full-time rving me and my wife would like help in that General area if possible
Hey RV Masters, we are about to reference you in our very first youtube video. You were instrumental in helping us buy our RV. We even bought your course. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! They really can be fun. The point of this series is to get the RIGHT RV. The rest of my training is to set your expectations properly so you don't get upset over stuff that is "normal" in the industry (but not good). Then even more training on how to use and drive/tow it, so you are confident and don't make expensive, easy mistakes. Overall, I love them, but to really have fun with them you have to navigate the industry. The other thing I'm trying to point out is that you can't make assumptions about the industry. If you read the many comments on my different videos, you'll see how people react to this information: some don't believe it, some disagree this is a reality, and some will tell you it's dead on. But as long as your eyes are open... it can be a blast!
Hi I am Nazir From last one year me trying to get licence but it's not happening When I sit in the vehicle feel so scared and mostly I suffered when I take right or left turn and when I have to change Lane and so please help me with video and moreover I am learning manually so please help me that. Thank you.
Well then make sure you buy the Class A video that teaches you all about the RV and how to drive! That will help a lot! Go to rvmasters.com and look around!
excellent video! You really need to have some technical expertise, Motor homes for example are not "big cars" you can live in. You have to be able to handle day to day issues if they crop up. You need to technically grasp all aspects of your rig. As was said; they are not houses on wheels. I prefer mid 90's used class C on a ford e350 chassis with the V10 Vortec. most will leak over the cabover at some point (duelly excepted are Born Free or Lazy Daze all season rigs etc) roof sealing is envitable, so learn how. plumbing, redo all with PEX pipe and sharkbite fittings. Electrical, replace all with lights with leds, learn solar and use Lithium batteries. Sine Wave Inverters for our now delicate electronics etc. Im not scaring anyone away, I just enjoy rebuilding old rigs and making them better than the factory product. New rigs are wonderfull, but i would buy at a least two year older 2018. Full life left and the chance to learn your rig mechanically from the wheels up, and your not losing 20 grand when you pull if off the lot. To be honest, if cant use a screwdriver just remember that fact that you cant just call a contractor to come over and fix your issue.
Very well said about buying the right RV. Your plans/requirements can change quickly after buying, take that into account. When your 12 year old son goes from under 5 ft to 6'5" in a few years he doesn't fit in his bunk anymore and it's no fun. Also - those people assembling RV's are unskilled surge workers. The safety standards are also fairly low, the weight ratings are not consumer friendly and are not based on real-life scenarios.
I hear you Jacquil. I am in the same situation. Have you looked into Shed-to-Home living? I've only recently discovered this. Most times cheaper than tiny homes and I believe some parks accept them...check them out.
@@sweetee123 No, Kathy. I've never heard of Shed-To-Home living, but I am definitely going to check it out. Thanks so much for suggesting something for me! I'm so scared to make the wrong choice of where/how to live, because money is that tight. Having another option to consider is very helpful and I appreciate it so much. I wish you the best of luck and hope you will be very happy with whatever choice you go with. 😊🌼
've owned an RV before. Never again. Too many problems. The entire RV industry is crappy. Subpar materials, shoddy workmanship, Sleezy salesmen and unresponsive repair departments. No thanks. We just rent cabins now. So much easier and any water leaks or other problems are the responsibility of the cabin owner. Don't have to tow, tag or repair anything. I just want to warn people. DON'T DO IT!!! I know it's exciting to watch all the wonderful RV touring videos here on YT but I promise 90+ percent of you new RV buyers will regret it!
This video does not make me want to purchase an RV anymore. The industry seems to be lacking in quality and services and for the $ they charge it does not seem equitable.
Excellent video! The RV industry is all about sales, they talk about service but reality is that they can not handle the service volume. We had our first camper sent back to the manufacturer (we lived close) because the long list of problems (manufacturing problems) would have never been completed at the dealer's service center. In fact the dealer service center actually made one problem far worse! Generally speaking an RV owner should be a knowledgeable handyman. We are now into our second camper (upsized) after taking the first one from East coast to West coast twice and Upper Michigan and Texas also. Our worst experience was the defective refrigerator with an ammonia leak (woke us up, not a fun experience!) but it was replaced by the manufacturer under warranty.
Dealer (manager) was so mad at dealing with me, he say we are done, wife got pissed , two days later , he called me deal done at my price. A plus at the negotiating was I had my own financing from my credit union(1.95%) . I am no fun to negotiate with but usually I win, so when the time comes to trade in, I should at least be able to break even
As I watched this video, I tried to think of a way to fully express how well done this video was. From the information you conveyed to your delivery, I have seldom seen a more value-packed TH-cam video and I watch a ton of them. You sir deserve some kind of award for presenting the information you do. The best I can come up with is that your video is at the information transference level of a TED talk!!!!! Kudos to you and the service you are providing your subscribers. All the best! Dan.
Thank you so much for watching! Remember, this is only ONE of many many videos I have on this subject at rvmasters.com... there's a lot more to it! I'm always hopeful this content will help people... thanks again for watching!
Yes!!- That's it-- a TED talk. As I watched and learned, I knew that this reminded me of videos that I had recently seen. I know that there is some editing, but your flow and connection to the audience (your students) is spot on.
Regarding negotiation: do NOT take your kids to a haggle! Remember that you do not NEED to buy an RV. The salesman needs to sell one. YOU have ALL the power in this process. Be willing to walk away.
" Buy vs sell" Themagic 3 little words! I didn't know, was DECIEVED by both dealers, "RV" WRITER'S!
THREE big WORDS!
"MISERY NEEDS COMPANY!"
SECOND BIGGEST MISTAKE I EVER MADE IN MY LIFE!
~ First was leaving the WOMB!~. 🤯☠️
Also realize walking away can cost you the rv you want if it’s a used one that isn’t often available.
we are planning on full time RVing in about a year. Its a big step and life change, but these types of videos help alot
Thanks
Great video! I’ll stay with the tents!!
Great Video. I worked in the industry for a short time and can attest to everything you said. I was the only person that owned an RV out of the entire staff.
This was an incredibly helpful and enlightening video. My wife and I have been entertaining this RV lifestyle for 2 years - 4 RV shows - thousands of you tube videos, but we have not visited a dealer (yet). (I am not retired!) I despise car dealerships and I am sure RV dealers are even worse. Besides where I live (NE-NJ), RV'ing is NOT popular, and the closest dealers are 1.5 hours north (to NY state) west (to PA) or south to the jersey shore. For over 10 years, every car I leased, I only go to the dealer AFTER we determine the down payment and monthly payment thru emails. This is a difficult task - even these days. Then I will inspect, test drive, and complete the transaction if satisfied. They are all snakes, and most likely the RV dealers are the worst as you say !!! Again, thanks for these warnings and tips - some of which I heard already - you are providing a GREAT public service !!! We all thank you !!!!
You are a KING! Thanks for dropping solid knowledge. I am diving in to your channel. Cheers!
Extremely informative and helpful. Thank you! 谢谢🙏🙏
Thanks for a comprehensive View of the industry and the lifestyle. So much to think about. So many pitfalls. Unfortunately, I don't know of any consumer systematic scientific reports of the manufacturers and some of their models. You suggest they are all about the same but I understand some, like Airstream or Winnebago, should be of better quality - not merely more luxurious. Perhaps you cannot name names. Naturally, anything that runs down the road is going to have stresses put on it that would cause rattles, cracks and loosening. Using screws rather than nails or staples should be one thing that would help but I don't know which mfrs build in durability and ruggedness. The lack of a place to park it or hook it up, on the the road is a stumbling block to selling that puts a damper on the whole idea. I see loosening of parking laws in California due to an affordable housing crisis but I wouldn't want to infringe on property owners. Maybe I will take the plunge, maybe not.
That was awesome and it really did punch me in the stomach. THANK YOU! Do you have any idea when the rest of the series is going to be posted?
I just posted video 3 in the "classroom" - this is a paid training series available at www.rvmasters.com for ONLY $64! I post a new video each week, although I'm ahead of schedule and trying to get them all out sooner than later. This is an introductory price, and it gets EVEN better from here if you can believe it. What's posted now is all the free content we can provide so you can see how much information is packed in our training. Check it out at www.rvmasters.com!
90% of people buying used rv frst think they do ,looking inside rv floor plan ,colors of cabinets ,condition of furniture and so on.When i buy rv first i open engine compartment ,condition of engine compartments tell sign of ownership, air filter ,fuel filter ,air dryer ,coolant , when i ask owner when you change air filter last time he told me just recently ,when i open housing filter element was completely clog second look at filters and radiator i make my decision right there ,traveling 2 h to see this unit i make decision not to buy ,remember my friends engine compartment can take huge amount of money ,just for new radiator on 45 f rv with 500hp engine can cost over 5.000 $.
I would love to see you do some RV factory tours!
And yes I have subscribed due to the information
THANK YOU!
Some of these vidoes almost scare me away from the idea. But I still wanna give it a shot
thank you for making this but I'm leaning towards a truck camper do you ever make any of those videos would love to see one by you
Like I said I'm on my 4th one you are right on .I didn't know any one else LOLHAHA had them problems thanks and I did buy the wrong one this last time for my needs dam it. Well I'll make the best of it..
Having owned 7 motorhomes in the last 35 years, I would say that the first thing a potential RV buyer should do, is to rent different RVs in similar styles to what they might purchase, the first year. Also, the potential buyers need to address the fact of where are they going to store their RV. I have found that the best place to store one, is at home, if you have the space and the town that allows it. We are lucky where we live to have a space I created that has water, electricity and a sewer outlet. Also, think about sun protection and also be aware that you might live in an area where you need to winterize your RV. This is very important so do your research. I have always bought used and most of the time it has turned out good. I prefer Ford chassis and motors. Presently I have a V10 motor and so far it has been reliable and the performance up hills, etc. is quite good, but it cannot pass a gas station very well. I stay far away from Mercede$ (had one that cost tons of money to keep running). There are thousands of Ford dealers around the country, but not too many Mercedes dealers, plus the cost of parts can be crazy high. When you Google for parts, type in "Made In USA" plus your item. Stay far away from any "Made In China" parts, and especially plastic items. Good luck and happy camping.
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Funny at 22:28 the clouds were going left and earlier and at 22:38 the clouds were going right.
I’m looking at toy hauler. The ATC brand looks like the best but it does cost a lot more. So is it worth the price?
Am from Wales ,and love to have one ,but shamefully think it's too big to put it by my house
I knew a lot of this, but not all, I have been in sales for a long time, never RV sales though. I am finding it is a little different. I research everything before I buy to make sure I am getting what I am going to need, for the purpose I am buying the product for, if that makes sense. I am going to sell the 3Bed room home that I have lived in for almost 30 years. I have been looking for a well made long-lasting travel trailer, that I can live in full time. I have found the Rock Wood by Forest River is a better-made product than most. I am looking at the Signature series, this is the upgraded version of the trailer that I like. I was wondering if you have any thoughts about this brand. You know a lot more than I do when it comes to this product. When I was in sales, no matter what the product was there was always the best product for the money, fewer returns, build better, longer-lasting. It was not always the most expensive, but the best buy for the money spent. I find this in the Rock Wood Signature series. would you agree? The flagstaff seems to be made by the same company, Forest River. they look the same to me, It seemed the Flagstaff was a little cheaper in price, but like you said no two are alike or I might have missed an add on, between the two. After looking for about 3 months now, I like the Rockwood 8332BS signature series. Rear Kitchen, 3 pull-outs, full-size refrigerator. larger oven on the stove, larger microwave. the 2 pull-outs across from one another, makes for a lot of room in the kitchen and living room area. All fiberglass on the outside aluminum framing, instead of wood. Lighter, stronger. Do you think I will be making a good choice with this trailer? Thanks for the informative videos you make. I am glad I found one of your videos. I am going to watch all of them. Thank you for your time.
Great question! My quick response: Though people have reported problems with the customer service/warranty aspect of Forest River, it's also true that Rockwood is considered by many to be a top tier brand. Of course, within that brand there is varying quality (unit to unit), but the people that I know that have a Rockwood love it.
Remember I have a whole series of videos on my website rvmasters.com. Be sure to check out the hours and hours of content available for purchase there, guaranteed to save you thousands on your purchase! Thanks for watching!
Ok, I will not buy one.
Please make a video on the top 5 brands for durability/resale value/build quality for a $20k-$40k travel trailer! In other words, what brands to people "in the know" buy. Thanks!!!!
IDWIE did they make one for this? A year later I’m just watching this. Thx
@@vjames1310 I bought his $97 course and he does an excellent job of telling you about the brands, not by name but tells you how they are all alike and how they are different. and what to look for. you could easily choose an RV with his advice.
Artic Fox! I've transported over 100 RV's ,all towables and have owned 3 myself so I do have a dog in this hunt ! I actually have spent time inside them and mostly all were under built ! Northwood builds Artic Fox in Oregon. The big companies all manufacture there's in Indiana. Don't trust me, go into any Northwood's built RV with a thermometer than go into any other brand ! You can even feel the difference without the thermometer ! They claim to be built for "off road" use too! Try renting different coaches (brands) before you choose then give Northwoods a try ! Or become an RV transporter yourself so you can test out different companies😊
There are NO lemon laws for RV's. Camping World knows this, any buyer that does not is Camping World's lawful prey. I rate Camping World AAA...Avoid, Avoid, Avoid.
Mn does have a buyers remorse law. You have 48hrs to change your mind. Though this does not cover every issue one might have.
Don't you think every other rv dealer also knows this?
I bet manufacturers hate you. Which is good, because this honesty is important!
Amazing information. What manufacturers do you recommend for someone looking to do fulltime 365 days/year rv living?
Well you just saved me a $100,000.00 plus.
So we're going to be fulltime RVers soon so I'm doing the research and watching these videos have been very helpful. Thanks.
Did you buy one? If so which one
i quit thinking about rv purchase after watching this lol
Haha!
Great video, great video series, really surprised there aren't 3-400.000 subscribers. Lot's of important information here.
Oh Man! This is a great video! You're the guy I need to bring along when I go RV shopping! Nice vid!
Why am I seeing what looks like giant ghosts walking in the background around the 4:30/4:35 mark? 😳😅😅
This, was one of the best “eye opener”, lessons on what it takes, to “own” an RV. Thanks!
I like your informative and knowledgeable presentations. You’ve got just the right rhythm and delivering and you’re also pretty easy on the eyes.
With the amount of "full time" RV'ers out there, no wonder their rigs break down. Like you said, most if not all RV's aren't built or meant to be used all year round, and for such a long period of time. Only for light usage for the summer period. Hence the reason cargo vans are selling like hot cakes and so many more people are converting them to be used full time. Your thoughts?
As I listened to this, I was thinking the same thing... Building your own now makes much more sense!
I have been RVing for 50+ years and agree with what you say. I also have training in sales and know many of the tricks they pull. I tell them what I am willing to pay tax, title, and out the door. Buy based on price not payment. I never take a trade in with me nor tell them any information about what I have until the price is set. 90% of the time you'll do better if you already have the financing arranged.
EDITED:
Recent comments inspired me to edit this response from awhile ago: I actually don't recommend holding back the trade. Ultimately I think you should be upfront with the salesperson - I have a lot more to say about that in my training. But people do it, for sure.
It's also dishonest. Yet you want the sales person to be honest with you. Can't have it both ways.
How is it dishonest? I want to know what the real price of the unit is. If they ask if I have I trade in, I say that is not relevant to the price of their unit. I want the price it will cost for me to take it home, period. You'd be surprised how little they actually give on a trade-ins.
They typically give about 60-75 percent of wholesale book value, because then the dealer has to turn around and sell your trade at a profit in order to stay in business. That is only a surprise to the naive.
It is dishonest to negotiate a deal in bad faith.
How do I and my wife hire YOU? + the cost to do so?
I don't think I going to buy a RV
You are a straight shooter ! THANKS . You have me hooked !
Is that BIGFOOT in the top left corner at minute TWO????!!!!!!!!
truck passing on a bridge
I can attest to the terrible service, I bought mine new, spent the first 30 days in the shop due to it nearly falling apart (avenger by forest river) got it home and more issues due the the dealer breaking alot of things, one of the techs even admitted that he took great PRIDE in DESTROYING people's rvs, and doing things to just ruin the owner's experience, and the dealer owner didn't care, it even spent 3 months in the shop due to the tanks not reading properly because they were never wired up, was even told by the manufacturer that the warranty on my BRAND NEW CAMPER was only good for the first 90 minutes after the paper work is done
James Jones Well, don't hold us in suspense, what's the make of your RV?
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Thanks for the explaining about RV buying
Oh, Peterrabbit, I haven't even started explaining the process yet! One of these videos goes into great detail about the actual sale - what the salesperson is thinking, how you're going to be greeted and treated, and the actual negotiation and what's happening with the numbers and the multiple trips to the "sales managers office"... so if you liked this, there's a LOT more where that came from!
You are scaring me about buying one
Excellent advice. He nailed it when talking about the service issues especially in the warm months. We needed a new side mirror and some minor paint- 4 MONTHS at the dealer. When we finally picked it up all the batteries were dead. $800.
I wonder how can he speaks so smoothly without even taking a break! 👍
New follower .. but impressed and thanks for all these videos! Helping me research!
If you say that there is only a handful of companies that supply the manufactures with parts, then why doesn't the dealers stock the few parts on the shelf? It seems like a runaround to me. Sounds like a great opportunity for a fully stocked service department to step up and be the God of RV service.
Great videos!! Really appreciate the information.
So wondering about this with depreciation.. Say we purchase a new RV for $180k which is 30% off MSRP, then put down another $30k for down payment. Would this be a good scenario for a purchase? Seems it would knock out at least the first year depreciation and possibly the 2nd years too. Thanks!!!
I agree with previous viewer. This RV video was full of stuff that I was not even aware of but seemed very obvious. Great job! . Our salesman admittengly said he did not have an RV he was into boats And he was the top salesman for the whole dealership
When I lived in the Florida keys, during the winter the islands were full of all types of RVs of course. It appeared the common denominator amongst many of them were the decals that stated "We're spending our kid's inheritance". Cheers
So if you really want an RV to do what you want it to and you want to LIVE out of it like you want to, custom build. From the ground up. Might be just as expensive or more. Might also take more time, but you would have as close to EXACTLY like you want.
Very very informative. Thanks
My wife and I made the mistake of buying our first trailer by not realizing what really worked for us and yes a costly mistake. We bought a 2008 Used KZ Spree210 for 15k in 2015. September 2017 we replaced with a 2018 Coleman 263bhe (which we enjoy). We could not sell it for blue book value that we used as a trade for 5k. A lesson learned.
uv tire protective covers for rv?
BUY THEM or at least cover them with spray/ wipe, formula 303, HEAVY and black 55 gal drum liners: two per tire!
If they are not turning or in a garage with the doors closed and window shades down. Unless you can take them off every day and bring enough in da house?
China/ Korea Or even: MADE IN THE USA!
They will each try to meet the LOWEST STANDARD POSSIABLE and charge the HIGHEST price imangineable!
Brand New ST tires will disinergrate at 63.1 mph at maximum pressure, sooner if the get sun burned?😡
Harbor freight $10. Wal-Mart $20 : garbage bag? 20 year supply $8. Unless they have a sale?
Price coffins, 2 adults + X number of kids & pets - sub- total subtract the above and finish the math?🙄
I am not going to watch a series of videos to find an answer to this question- does he bring up how the association of rv dealers actively lobby against rv lemon laws? You know cars and trucks made or sold in the United States are covered by lemon laws right? Well not rvs! In fact the association of rv dealers recently declared a "victory" in Oklahoma and Connecticut when they successfully lobbied to defeat rv lemon laws in those states! Anyone? Any clue?
This was awesome! Thank you!!
It just sounds like the RV doesn’t know shit about what they’re actually selling, don’t want to take ownership for the poor quality of the coach, and has poorly trained salespeople. What a crock of shit! Thank God I decided to not buy one of these shit mobiles!
took a while to find your website had to look in comments.
I know, right?! SOMEONE didn't think through exactly how to best market his own product. But I'm getting there... thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for helping people like me that wanted to sell my beautiful home and hit the road thinking it would be so easy, Im glad you care enough to help people understand that there is so much more to it then what I thought.
Wow, I should have know about your videos prior to making a purchase. Very well done. Thanks so much!!!
Your videos are great! Hilarious that you are selling them on your website. That was disappointing to see. I can guarantee you that you’d get thousands more by uploading them to TH-cam.
What a difference a few years makes when you talk about depreciation. Now a seller can make almost as much on their used RV as they did when they bought it new.
thanks for the information. You did a great job presenting, very clear and to the point.
The Auto Industry used to be like that. You had to be aware of "Running Inline Production Modifications," The Auto Industry handled it by listing vehicles by Year and "batch number," when they changed a particular part out. The last company I know that did that was International Harvester with their Scout in the Late 60's, but other smaller companies like Studebaker, Checker Cab Car company and American motors did that until the late 1950's and early 60's. They used this system last on Postal Jeeps. I was wondering if the RV industry might be doing the same when they have to change out a vendor for a particular part.
I've worked for a supplier to all the big OEM auto manufacturers for 20 years. Every single one allows for running changes during the model year of production. It's much more a formalized process from decades ago, but I can assure you that a car you buy at the start of a model year is NOT made from the same design level of parts at the beginning. Things happen... sub suppliers go out of business or we are forced to make design changes to lower the piece price.
Mine has 3" walls and real fiberglass insulation. Double pane windows. Very comfortable in summer and winter but mine was made for full-time living and it of course was expensive. Like almost everything else in life, you get what you pay for.
What brand did you buy? Hard to find full time rigs that can handle winter.
The link in your earlier video brought me here and I'm glad it did, this was way better in a way that will appease the angry crowd that watch or watched the other one first.
Research is key and much easier to do these days, customers have a head start if they do some and more if they do more.
Understanding and learning about sales should benefit in life as it's such a big part of it, buying or selling. Cheers for doing this one, impressive indeed.
Thank you for the video series. I am now aware that it's just like a car dealership
Fantastic video! So informative. Thank you so much!
Just got back from a trip and my black tank hose didn't have the right connector for my 50 gallon wheeled tote. . I ended up dumping half a gallon at a time of poop soup into the tote . . . so not cool. Only thing I missed hahaha crappy situation for sure.
Excellent videos, I am learning so much. Thanks for the education on RVs!!
Thanks for the reality check!
Is it better to buy from Factory compared to buying it from a dealership I'm planning on going full-time rving me and my wife would like help in that General area if possible
Thanks for making this very well done video.
Awesome video and information new subscriber and thanks for taking time to explain everything in detail
bill 7.1 thank you. i still have alot to Learn, i wont to live full time in a used 5th weel trailer when the time comes.
The rv I'm looking is 30' no No slide out Diesel pusher
Hey RV Masters, we are about to reference you in our very first youtube video. You were instrumental in helping us buy our RV. We even bought your course. Keep up the good work!
How exciting! I'll check out what you're doing - feel free to share your experience with my training. And good luck as you get rolling!
You Rock! One day I am going to buy an RV
Thanks! They really can be fun. The point of this series is to get the RIGHT RV. The rest of my training is to set your expectations properly so you don't get upset over stuff that is "normal" in the industry (but not good). Then even more training on how to use and drive/tow it, so you are confident and don't make expensive, easy mistakes. Overall, I love them, but to really have fun with them you have to navigate the industry. The other thing I'm trying to point out is that you can't make assumptions about the industry. If you read the many comments on my different videos, you'll see how people react to this information: some don't believe it, some disagree this is a reality, and some will tell you it's dead on. But as long as your eyes are open... it can be a blast!
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I am Nazir
From last one year me trying to get licence but it's not happening
When I sit in the vehicle feel so scared and mostly I suffered when I take right or left turn and when I have to change Lane and so please help me with video and moreover I am learning manually so please help me that.
Thank you.
Well then make sure you buy the Class A video that teaches you all about the RV and how to drive! That will help a lot! Go to rvmasters.com and look around!
Thank you very much for the interesting video! Liked and Subscribed!
Thank you for watching!
a brandnew rv for $ 22,000 ????? how long ago was that ?
Great video and good information. Thanks for making this series!
Outstanding video!
excellent video! You really need to have some technical expertise, Motor homes for example are not "big cars" you can live in. You have to be able to handle day to day issues if they crop up. You need to technically grasp all aspects of your rig. As was said; they are not houses on wheels. I prefer mid 90's used class C on a ford e350 chassis with the V10 Vortec. most will leak over the cabover at some point (duelly excepted are Born Free or Lazy Daze all season rigs etc) roof sealing is envitable, so learn how. plumbing, redo all with PEX pipe and sharkbite fittings. Electrical, replace all with lights with leds, learn solar and use Lithium batteries. Sine Wave Inverters for our now delicate electronics etc. Im not scaring anyone away, I just enjoy rebuilding old rigs and making them better than the factory product. New rigs are wonderfull, but i would buy at a least two year older 2018. Full life left and the chance to learn your rig mechanically from the wheels up, and your not losing 20 grand when you pull if off the lot. To be honest, if cant use a screwdriver just remember that fact that you cant just call a contractor to come over and fix your issue.
Very well said about buying the right RV. Your plans/requirements can change quickly after buying, take that into account. When your 12 year old son goes from under 5 ft to 6'5" in a few years he doesn't fit in his bunk anymore and it's no fun. Also - those people assembling RV's are unskilled surge workers. The safety standards are also fairly low, the weight ratings are not consumer friendly and are not based on real-life scenarios.
I know an RV is not a house, but I have to move into one to live in permanently for financial reasons. Is it just not possible to do this?
I hear you Jacquil. I am in the same situation. Have you looked into Shed-to-Home living? I've only recently discovered this. Most times cheaper than tiny homes and I believe some parks accept them...check them out.
@@sweetee123 No, Kathy. I've never heard of Shed-To-Home living, but I am definitely going to check it out. Thanks so much for suggesting something for me! I'm so scared to make the wrong choice of where/how to live, because money is that tight. Having another option to consider is very helpful and I appreciate it so much. I wish you the best of luck and hope you will be very happy with whatever choice you go with. 😊🌼
've owned an RV before. Never again. Too many problems. The entire RV industry is crappy. Subpar materials, shoddy workmanship, Sleezy salesmen and unresponsive repair departments. No thanks. We just rent cabins now. So much easier and any water leaks or other problems are the responsibility of the cabin owner. Don't have to tow, tag or repair anything. I just want to warn people. DON'T DO IT!!! I know it's exciting to watch all the wonderful RV touring videos here on YT but I promise 90+ percent of you new RV buyers will regret it!
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As a woman, I’ve watched soooo many videos! How do I know what manufacturer makes the best fifth wheel or Class C?...
This video does not make me want to purchase an RV anymore. The industry seems to be lacking in quality and services and for the $ they charge it does not seem equitable.
Excellent video! The RV industry is all about sales, they talk about service but reality is that they can not handle the service volume. We had our first camper sent back to the manufacturer (we lived close) because the long list of problems (manufacturing problems) would have never been completed at the dealer's service center. In fact the dealer service center actually made one problem far worse! Generally speaking an RV owner should be a knowledgeable handyman. We are now into our second camper (upsized) after taking the first one from East coast to West coast twice and Upper Michigan and Texas also. Our worst experience was the defective refrigerator with an ammonia leak (woke us up, not a fun experience!) but it was replaced by the manufacturer under warranty.
We want to live in one, any recommendations or advice? We’re watching videos and asking questions .
Wow.... Very well done. You are concise in your information and put it together very well.
Dealer (manager) was so mad at dealing with me, he say we are done, wife got pissed , two days later , he called me deal done at my price. A plus at the negotiating was I had my own financing from my credit union(1.95%) . I am no fun to negotiate with but usually I win, so when the time comes to trade in, I should at least be able to break even
Buy used. Buy from an individual. Know the maintenance and history. Save a bundle.
thanks awesome video!
I need the option of bringing you with when I go and buy mine....lol! But seriously, I've been getting some really good info to use