RV TRAINING - Getting DIESEL at a truck stop!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- This is to help anyone that isn't quite sure about how to get diesel fuel at a truck stop. It can be a little intimidating and there IS an etiquette to know!
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ATTENTION TRUCKERS::: I wanted to share a message with you - perhaps I should have started out with this. Although many of you don't like RV'er in the public travel stops, the problem is only going to get worse - much worse. The RV industry is growing incredibly fast with nearly 400,000 RV's being built each year. Most campgrounds are full - on the east coast you need to schedule a campground out nearly a year.
Here are a few other thoughts going through RV'er's heads and why they use and stay at the fuel stations:
- They have 100 gallon tanks too. Filling up on the "car side" takes way too long, not to mention it's often much too tight to reasonably get a 40 foot bus through there.
- They don't feel comfortable pulling off on an exit in the middle of nowhere to sleep on the side of the road. They have their family with them and aren't comfortable sleeping roadside (though many others don't have that problem).
- They just bought 100 gallons of gas too. They're paying for the concrete too and want to use it.
- Although truckers have the limitations of driving hours and logs (which many people don't realize or fully understand), Rv'er's also have some limitations. It's not easy just pulling off somewhere and parking 40 feet of coach plus a tow vehicle. Walmart doesn't want them, Home Depot doesn't want them, rest areas are quick to boot them if they hang around too long, neighborhoods don't want them, and it's hard to know what parts of town are safe enough to park in. I literally had a cop escort me off a Walmart property in Charlotte, NC, advising me that if I want my wheels and tow vehicle in the morning I need to park somewhere else.
- No, RV'er's can't just plan out everywhere they're going to stay ahead of time. Many campgrounds are full, or they have operating hours and if the Rv'er is delayed at all, they can't check in after a certain time (6pm, etc.).
For me, finding a place to park had become incredibly difficult. It took a LOT of the fun out of it. I never slept well - always waiting for the lights or the knock on the door asking me to leave. So before you find yourself hating RV'er's, understand they have their own issues and limitations. Last: They won't appreciate that you want them to move on so you can make money. They worked their whole life to have this vacation, and your job doesn't trump their lifetime reward. Don't get mad at me - I'm just the messenger. This is what many think.
While I dont have a rv at all. I agree with everything you said here. The truckers being jerks. And saying park else where. Seem to froget that 40+ ft class a with a towed car or enclosed trailer. If your a race team is almost as long or just as long as they are. I'm sure the truck stop whould love to have a 50-70 foot + long rv/trailer combo parked in front takeing up 8-12 spots.
When it comes to fueling they all hold 100+ gallons of diesel as well and back to the size. You could say squeezing a class a and trailer in to to auto pumps is probbly as easy as mr trucker squeezing in there. .... God bless and hope to own a beautiful rig like that some day
Many of your larger Pilot/Flying J truck stops have separate RV parking. An RV can also park in the car section if there is adequate space when a trucker can't. As a retired trucker I can tell you I have driven an extra hour and as many as five different places before finding a place to park. There is a serious shortage of truck parking and it started way before the RV explosion. You are just adding to an existing problem.
At a truck stop there are many rookie drivers or drivers coming in late at night. There is a high risk of getting hit. In 20 years I've been hit 6 times by someone backing into me and every single one tried to run but they don't get far.
At truck stops many times you deal with panhandlers. You deal with a noisy truck beside you. You deal with a urine soaked parking lot. Truck stops thin out during the day and from like 4pm to 8am they are packed full. As a RVer now I thoroughly plan my trips so I usually don't have an issue. Other alternatives include Wal-Mart, Rest Areas, on ramps in certain states and my favorite is freecampsites.net. I'll find suitable free camping enroute that can accommodate a Class A.
I think it goes without saying but apparently it doesn't so here it is, TRUCKERS DO NOT OWN THE ROAD OR THE RUCK STOPS. I have spent to many years fighting for your freedom and mine to have some trucker tell me that after spending the same $400 to fuel my rig, I can't overnight in the parking lot. GET BENT. (Good video by the way)
@@philliprittermeyer3303 what you do, work for the ACLU?
I drove for 15 years and understand the frustration of not having a place to park but I'm cool with rv parking there . Just know on the other side they should have a place for you to park near the cars . I would look there first just to be nice.
It doesn’t hurt to say “Thank you”to the fuel station attendant.
He also said they were getting "gas"...This guy's a tool
Hey can I get a receipt? No thank you or nothing. This guy is a clown. He get's $20 of diesel. Rv Masters? Lol
Sir as a truck driver I thank you. Proper etiquette is a blessing! However I want to note that if you are going inside for anything other than a receipt go take a parking spot because I myself can fuel and dash in 5-10 minutes and don't want to wait for you to come back. But truth be told, other drivers are taking their 30 minute break on the pumps and they get a good ragchewing. As far as shutting down, along with most all the other comments, it's best not to shut down at a truck stop unless you absolutely have too. They get full enough as it is and when we are down to our last five minutes on that wonderful eld it really brings folks to a boiling point! But all in all great vid, and thank you!!
Do Truck Stops not have pay at the pumps or are they still the old ding ding every gallon? Technically there is no reason to go inside. Piss in a cup!
The reason some truck stops do not except your normal debit/credit card is because the maximum allowed on those cars are usually around $150 and the truck stops try to open them up to around $300 for most semis. Those cards will work but you have to go inside and let them authorize it manually. If you are traveling a lot with your RV the best things is for you to sign up for a fleet card or pick your favorite truck stop and sign up for one of their gas/diesel cards.
I want to thank you on behalf of all my fellow "professional" truck drivers for putting this out for all the other RV'ers to see. Pulling forward right after your done fueling and being thoughtful when you park will get you a long way!
I'd like to add that using oil-resistant gloves is something you should also think about doing when handling the lines & nozzles. Doing a good walk around of your vehicle looking for possible problems (inspection) is something all commercial drivers are required to do and I would advise any one who drives one of these big RV's to do it every time your supposed to by law. At a minimum you should check all lights the engine and your tires/wheels, a Class A & B vehicle is required to do this by law. Be safe and have fun!
You are very correct with truck stops procedures. Another thing RV people need to know is the height of their vehicle. Very important..
A few things you need to add, especially for the newbie; first off, fuel stations are filthy; wear gloves when you use the fuel nozzle and always have an extra pair of shoes you can slip on at the door to walk out on the concrete with. Grease, diesel and whatnot everywhere! Second; Most diesel pushers have twin tanks and I fill from both sides at the same time. Truck drivers don't want to wait on your inability to dispense the fuel like you should. I had a 100 gal fuel tank on each side and could be in an out as fast as the truckers could. The fuel card is the answer for the trips in and out. If you have a Good Sam card, they are supposed to work at Pilot's, but that hasn't happened yet for me. You will also find that no matter how well you manage your time at the truck stop, there are truckers who don't like that fact that you are tooling down the road at your leisure and they are working and you are holding them up. Unless I am just so tired I can't go any further, I never stay at a truck stop. It's for those drivers that have to stop and sleep. Lastly, lock you door when you leave your rig!
Those are all really great points! I also didn't show that you're also supposed to have some diesel fuel cleanup spread for diesel spills (it kinda looks like cat litter).
It's also true that you can pump diesel on both sides in most diesel pushers. However, at least with my rig, I can't leave the pump unattended because of the way the angle is - it sprays out way before it auto stops. So when I dual fuel I have to calculate how much I need and stop one of the sides before I get to 80%, then get to the other side. That's just my experience.
Exactly, imagine if it were the other way and truckers pulled into RV camping spots. RVers would be irate. Drove commercially for over 25 years, I still have my CDL. I now pull a 38’ trailer. Being respectful goes a long ways and it goes both ways. As an RVer most don’t have a schedule anything like a trucker. You aren’t being watched and timed by a device required by law. You can park in many places including Walmart’s parking lots. Many Walmart lots are off limits to truckers. Most RVers are either vacationing, retired or working a schedule more forgiving than a truckers schedule.
My Good Sam card works at Flying J and Pilot. It also helps to have a Fly J/Pilot RV rewards card. It lets you pay at the pump. The RV Rewards Card is free. The reward card authorizes the pump .Fly J / Pilot RV Rewards card when used with a Good Sam Fuel card, gets you a 6 cent per gal. discount.
I have to agree with Joe's statement about the fuel stations being filthy! I had an encounter at a small gas station that had the diesel pumps behind the building for semi's and RV's to get get fuel, well there was standing water (which happened to be mixed with diesel) and I went to step over the puddle, slipped, fell on my ass, covered the back of my clothes in the mixture of gravel, water, diesel and cut my hand! I was not happy, especially when i had to go in and pay for the fuel covered in crap! The foreigners running the station never said a WORD as i went to their disgusting bathroom to attempt to clean up (which was about as dirty as the outside!) nor when i payed and told them what happened! Not a "I'm Sorry" or anything! After that i learned to only buy fuel at well known and clean stations!
I use a Fuel Card that i signed up for thru the Gas Buddy app. Gives me a discount when making fuel purchases and it ties to my bank account. One thing that threw me off when using the card at a large truck stop was that the pump asked if the fuel was for the "tractor" say YES! Trucks as we call them are also known as Tractors in the Trucking World.
Also, if you don't have an RV with a generator (I pull a 41' Coachmen Chaparral 5th wheel & no generator behind my F-350 Diesel) then it is much more comfortable to find a KOA along your route. They always have a spot or two for travelers that come in after hours (or dark), just fill out the registration slip and put some cash in the envelope into the night deposit.
Todd Davis the reason the pump asks if the fuel is for the tractor semi is because the fuel for refer units is taxed less.
Thank you very much for this, I'm taking my 38' across the country for the first time and was pretty apprehensive, great info, keep up the good work.
Both Diesel and DEF pumps have auto shutoffs. If this RV is like our trucks, diesel won't be full, you have to slowly top it off, diesel likes to foam, bubble and slosh. DEF is almost completely full when it shuts off however. Maybe an extra click or two, but not that important.
As for capacities for DEF, depending on spec of truck (i assume RV's have unusually large def tanks) it will last until a second fuelling. However if you're the absent minded type, or get out into the wilderness, it would be best to fill DEF with every fuelling when available (such as truck stop, since you're there anyways) in case you need diesel at a small station that doesn't have any DEF at pump (far, far cheaper than in the bottles)
As well, as a regional driver, I don't complain if you're parking your RV in a truck lane if it's a full sized RV. Your Econoline van will piss a whole bunch of road drivers off if it's in a 90 foot space. If you use a pull through parking lane, move all the way up, so a bobtail or straight truck can get all comfy up behind you in the same space. also word of advice, leave clearance lights on when stopped, mandatory at night. In parking lots or spaces, it makes the vehicle much easier to see, especially when hidden in parking slots.
In the 10 years I have been fueling diesel motor homes at truck stops, no trucker has EVER waited for me to get out of his or her way. In the same time period, I have lost count of the number of times I have pulled up to a pump with a truck pulled forward, gone in to run my card, fill up diesel, pull forward to fill DEF, gone back inside to pay, returned to the motor home, made a sandwich, ate it, and STILL waited another 10 minutes for the driver to come back to his truck with a shopping bag, a to go container, and wet hair.
Manners go both ways.
Truck driver must have been from Canada they are famous for going in taking a shower getting food just generally laying around leaving thier truck in the fuel lanes .Ex truck driver I've seen it
That's not a Canadian thing. I'm a truck driver and this is almost the standard at every truck stop now. As a driver it's one of the most annoying things we deal with. Motorhomes getting fuel don't bother me. The inconsiderate truck drivers do.
So good of you to take the time and do this video on truck stop etiquette. Really helpful. Good work and safe travels.
Not sure about other truckers but I sure like seeing you guys up close.
I’m looking at what I want to get in the future. It’s funny to say but I’m a trucker and when I retire , I’d like to get a massive motorhome to travel the country and stay in 80 degrees all the time.
Not 100 not 50. But 80 all the time.
I wanna chase that weather and park and fish or hang out when ever.
Try Beridorm, Spain. That's my future retirement plan.
What my mom and dad did when dad retired from Red Ball trucking.
Good luck with finding 80 all the time in the USA. That was my dream too.
Your not the only one the problem is the next generation to retire won't have a pension like our parents did we limited to our own savings and social security living full time in an RV looks lot better then sitting watching TV all day in a retirement community. I think the road is going to fill with RV'ers they all need places to park those things.
I just saw a FB post for traveling the US while it's 80 degrees during the year. It gives you a map of where to go and when to stay at the 80 degrees. It's pretty cool.
This was great because it is basic stuff for people new to rving.
I’m a truck driver and hope to be an RV’er someday so I can go to all the areas I’ve been to but never had the chance to enjoy.... I’d say screw anyone who says you can’t park there! As long as your in between the lines I’d tell them to get bent, your very right when it comes to pop outs unless your parked on a corner and pop out over grass, remember most of us are not that rude, unless your inflicting are time, we work on a clock that’s always ticking and have strict timelines. I’ve made some RV friends on the road even seen some awesome race cars crews, only conflict I’ve ever had with someone in a RV was how fast he was traveling in a truck stop general rule of thumb is to keep it under 10mph once on the lot
Agreed! In every way.
Seth Clark we also work on a clock as daily drivers...remember that when you are trying to pull a hill VERY slowly while in the hammer lane blocking others.
I love all the mad truckers below. Like they knew how to fuel the first few times. RVers, get fuel. Be as quick as possible, get in, get out. Don't block lanes. The truckers will evil eye you. So what! They'll get over it. the guys getting mad are the same guys who leave their truck and go take a shower and block the lanes.
@ shut the fuck up you geriatric goof, you're not a hero or godsend because you drive a truck. It's the Bush league truckers like you that ruined the industry reputation, thank yourself for getting kicked out of Walmart's, not the guy filling his RV up or stopping over night.
@ Talk to any Walmart manager and it's the truckers ruining it for the truckers. They take up to much room parking in the center of parking sections and damaging stuff with poor driving skills and then just leaving without telling anyone. It's actually a written rule by the Walmart owners that RV will always have a spot at walmart because they are respected, but as far as truck go....its the managers call on that, and most say no because too many truck drivers are inconsiderate.
Having a dedicated pair of gloves to use only for refueling stored in a outside compartment near fuel door.
I typed in the same comment and glanced down a bit and saw your comment. I deleted my comment.
Sissy man
Yep and dedicated shoes. The ground is usually Nasty
I'm a truck driver and I think the best solution is for the truck stops to start making more RV parking spaces specifically for rvers that way everyone wins. The problem with RV or getting into truckers parking places you guys don't get tickets for being illegal on your logs but I do understand when you drive a piece of equipment that is as big as they are you guys need parking to hopefully truck stops will come up with a plan
Awesome video. These small videos are key for newbie DP owners. Keep up the good job.
One correction to your comment on pulling up when finished fueling. Just run in to get your receipt and pull out. If you need to do anything more (restroom, eat, browse the store, etc.) pull out and park in the parking lot. Do not block the fuel lane exit.
I am a Newby and this is the EXACT Video I was looking for !!!! Thank you so much for posting !
Very nice video and fun to watch. Have a nice day.
Thank you! I just want to help people have a better RV experience!
Btw some of us know your new to truck stops and we also know you are out of your comfort zone. We know this and we don’t get pissed when u look lost.
Everyone is allowed to be new.
Signed :
Not a rv hater trucker !
I fuel all the time in a truck one would thing they could figure out how to make payments at the pump
My RV is a gas powered unit so I only have to ask em once
Thanks, Gcal 1956. You've got a great attitude - i'll try my best to be respectful of your turf. Peace.
He should add "Put the cap back on the filler neck and LOCK the vehicle before leaving it."
A courteous "thanks" to the cashier would have been nice. Twice.
Appreciate'ya, gearmasher. Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up out there.
Excellent commentary 👌
That was an awesome video. Thank you so much for that. I needed that info. Great job!!!
We have a 2000 model diesel pusher with a smaller fuel neck. This proves to be difficult with a small neck if you are going to find one. The small neck diesel dispenser will be the pump closer to the building. At least that has been our experience.
Just go into any "gas station" that also has diesel pumps for pickups and all the other diesel powered smaller vehicles, and the nozzles are the very same as the gasoline dispenser nozzles, only with a Green rubberized handle cover, instead of Black for the gasoline nozzles.
Use the RV islands if available - Petro Flying J has 'em
Don Rumsey not all of them do
find 'em - cause they're easier, (credit is same as cash price & you don't have to go inside to prepay)
Great thing about diesel, a pilot light is VERY unlikely to cause an explosion. Old school truckers sometimes still smoke cigarettes while filling up. Saw one last month actually!
It's actually Very Hard to light diesel fuel with an open flame, unless you hold it there long enough. Diesel exhaust "can" (with strong enough concentrations of it) make you nauseous.... but will not outright kill you, like carbon monoxide in gasoline fueled exhaust, will. Of course, now... with Urea (DEF) thrown into the equation in recent years.... who knows.
Great video. When filling up I was in and out as fast as I could. Go in, give them my CC, fuel up, pull forward, go in, pay and get out of the way. Had an older truck so no DEF. Never had a truck driver have to wait much for me. Did have to wait several times for the truck driver in front of me who went in for a meal or something else. We always parked in the back forty. Only did so to use the bathroom in the trailer. To eat a sandwich around 12 noon and head out. Never hogged a spot overnight. Same in rest areas. In and out. Have a toilet in the 5th wheel trailer, walk around, check tires and hubs with my laser temp gauge. Eat a sandwich around 12 noon and head out. In twelve years of full-time RVing never had any problems with truck drivers in fuel stops or rest areas.
Nolan B . as a truck driver a lot of us hate it when other drivers do that in fuel station. some go in and eat, try to get a quick shower or taking their 30 minute break. some just don't consider others at all. The quality of truck drivers now days are bad and this is coming from someone who is a over the road trucker.
Update: I mentioned a timeframe of 10 to 15 minutes while holding at the line after pulling out. That was just my observation based on an awful lot of fill ups. However, it is a best practice to get out of the way as soon as possible. Generally it's best just to grab the receipt and go if required. So I agree with the comments here - this is meant to be a fill-and-go for truckers, so it's important to not impede them.
Well, I was thinking 10-15 minutes after you cleared the fuel island. That is the common courtesy in the industry. That way you can free the fuel island up and go get something to eat drink and move on. Anything longer it is best to go park and do what you got to do. For us, that usually means a bathroom break, sit-down meal and or shower. One last point always lock your door!
You don't need to go,as you can see there are plenty of parking,why not pull around and park,freeing up the lane...no brainer....
Gotta go get yourself a hot dog... and a cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeese burger.. and taaaaaaaaaaater chips.. and sodie pop.. and a caaaaaaandy bar
Even I knew it was pump 21.
Quit saying...we're getting gas LoL. Hard habit to break I know.
Wow, that DEF tank location sucks. I can't imagine trying to fill it from the box/bottles u buy at stores.
Just a tip but get yourself a pair of gloves dedicated to fueling, diesel migrates from the pump to your hands, clothes and coach ,and leave the gloves in a side compartment that you don't mind smelling like diesel and getting dirty . Even your shoes will get diesel on the soles it truly is a messy ordeal
Years ago, I worked in filling stations for a decade, including a few years at a full service truck stop. Since I am outside at the pumps all day, I wouldn't even think of touching them without leather - palmed work gloves.
You are absolutely right - gas stations make more profit with selling booze, cigarettes and candies than with fuel. They are unhappy if people swipe their card, fill up and leave. That's why at some places like this truck stop you have to go through this ridiculous procedure of going back and forth between the pump and the store.
Never ever stay at the fuel island longer than needed! Get your receipt and move! NO FOOD OR BATHROOM BREAKS!!! ,JUST THE RECEIPT! Truck stops are not camp grounds! Move on.
Hit the parking lot if you KNOW you are going to do a round robin in the stop! That's from the fuel desk to the bath rooms to the store and then the fat food place!
I'm a driver and I only will do the bathroom to wash my hands and relieve my self then the store if needed then run! I noticed all those MT spots right in front of you and because it's mid day the lot is maybe half full so there could even be a pull through or at least an easy backing maneuver to have fun with sharpening the ole backing skills! LOL!
Right, bc there’s always parking spaces to pull into at busy truck stops past 4 pm so you can conveniently run in to get a 5 min coffee or take a 2 min piss or grab a burger off the dollar menu. GTFOOH.
Good video. New sub here. For my 1st rv, I will look at a used Diesel Class A, pre DEF (~2010)
A couple hints as a retired trucker. You can frequent one of the major chains and obtain their fuel card for a discount. All the major truck stops offer fuel reward cards, get one. Not only do you get a free shower with every 50 gallons you build points which you can buy food and store merchandise.
When fueling it's a good idea to wear gloves. If you fuel with diesel your hands tend to get dirty.
When walking in a truck stop parking lot always square off your route. Never walk shortcut angles. Many drivers have been run over in the past. Take it seriously. Walking the edges makes you safer. When walking in front of trucks at the fuel island always make eye contact with the driver in the truck. Never assume he sees you.
Loves are great truck stops but they are not the biggest. I prefer Pilot/Flying J. TA and Petro are other big chains.
If you are parking overnight some spots are safer than others. Drivers always back from the drivers side. The passenger side of their trailer is their blind side so keep that in mind. Ideally the back row end spot to the right is the safest spot. Parking beside an island or curb is safer. Don't hide in the back of the spot. Favor the front so drivers can see you but not too much you make their backing difficult.
Last if you look usually in the bathroom hallway area you'll see the truck stop's fuel directory hanging on the wall. Grab you a free one to help find future truck stops or you can use apps if you prefer. Happy travels.
Good video guys I need to have my wife watch this because she is always rushing me haha.
What a foolish setup! def and fuel should be in the same place
You shouldn't have to put DEF in the vehicle, period.
The problem with DEF, besides it’s the biggest failure in the diesel world, is it has to be heated. If it sits too o, it crystallizes. If you have any emissions issue, the engine will shut down in about 8 hours. Oh, it’s urea, cow urine. I got off track, DEF has to be closer to the engine than the fuel. Fuel will freeze below 0 degrees F. They are almost always insulated and warmed by the engine heat. I agree that they should be closer. However, we drivers have to pull forward to fuel the reefer.
I definitely want to get that grill guard for my RV like that tractor has at 1:21
Not just for RVs. When I owned my F350, I held 110 gallons of fuel. When I would fill up, it was 100 gallons at a time. If there weren't truck stops around, that would turn into a 20 minute fill-up (at a typical 5 gallons/minute rate of car pumps). At the truck pumps, I could knock that out in about 5 minutes, then pull forward and go in and pay. Of course, as it came from the factory, my truck had a restrictor plate in the filler neck. Removed the neck, cut out the plate and reinstalled -- no problem taking fuel at 20 gallons/minute after that.
I’m a trucker. And though I am resentful of non-professional drivers using Truck stop facilities, I try to be gracious about it. Still.....if you aren’t a trucker and you stop at a truck stop.......GET YOUR SHIT DONE AND GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!!!!! And go park overnight elsewhere!
2:56 NEVER leave your key in the ignition switch or your vehicle unlocked at a filling station..!!! You're just asking for trouble..!!!!!
upfreaks not really i leave my truck on all day everyday (except for fueling) most people will leave your truck alone but if your in a place like detroit,atlanta,Memphis etc... then yeah look that bitch tight then an overprotective father over his daughter's virginity
Please wear gloves them fuel stations are nasty
First problem, my filler was too small for the giant Truck stop hose. I guess the maker knew it couldn't vent fast enough.
Second problem, my filler was on the curb side, so the truck pumps had the master pump on the wrong side. You have to take the nozzle, lay it on the ground, then use the slave on the curb side and so you can't read the pump meter.
I was forced to use the "Auto Diesel" pumps at the regular gas pumps. You learn to not pull into pumps perpendicular to the store or else you get blocked by cars at the store. Backing up with a trailer is not easy at a fueling stop, especially solo.
I sought out Flying J's which always have a RV island.
Allen S don’t feel too sad , for years GM pickups had their DEF filler under the hood, on the curb side, but the nozzle couldn’t fit between the hood and filler hole anyway. GM stands for Great Mayhem, don’t you think? They fixed it on 2019 models at least.
Had the same problem with a diesel Uhaul. I had to use the truck pumps frequently.
I'm looking forward to getting a RV. Not to long down the road when I get my house paid off in the next year. I'm watching this video just for fun dreaming about pulling my RV up to a truck stop to get diesel. I drive trucks for a living and pump fuel and def at the flying j everyday but I'm so looking forward to pumping it in a RV one day if it has diesel when my wife and kids and I are heading out on a road trip to see the grand canyon or something like that
First, seventeen minutes on how to refuel a Class A is insane. No amount of truck stop ass kissing justifies the length. That said, the cavalcade of negative trucker response is amusing. Poor stiffs have little education, work long hours, get entertained by lot lizards, earn squat, lie on log books, and then have to watch some dude pull in driving a $600,000 Tiffin for diesel fuel. And that, kiddies, is his toy. Really pisses 'em off -- as if they are somehow entitled to more respect. LMAO
good tips
That's an understatement I got lucky especially at a love considering most people who get fuel there park at the fuel line go in for like an hour give or take come back and fuel then go back in the store without pulling the truck Ford even though you can spend another hour or two in there then come back and move your truck then go back in the damn store I've no idea what's so interesting in love you need to get diesel get your bag of chips and leave that's it there's nothing to do at a f****** love I can understand at a TA or Petro and some flying J's but most Love's travel stops and most pilots there's absolutely nothing to do but yet most truck drivers will spend two to three hours on the freaking fuel Lane doing absolutely nothing fishing other drivers off and and how do I know all this how do you say I kind of got trap behind one I needed fuel I don't particularly like feeling at the loves but when you damn gauges on the red you have to get something so I pulled in photo behind this one truck I spent three f****** hours they're waiting for him to get fuel come to find out he was asleep in his f****** damn cab and he was a whole freaking line backed up plumbing to the road trying to get fuel be at this jackass wasn't leaving and neither was the other ones he had nobody in front of him about 50 or 60 trucks behind him and he was asleep or sleeping waiting to be approved for fuel I can't stand jackasses like that that is why I personally I tried to avoid fueling at a luvs unless it is extremely early in the morning or around 2 to 3 in the evening other than that I tried to avoid loves and that includes parking too
As a truck driver I must say, yeah you’re supposed to “shut it down” at the pump. But if you didn’t notice, every truck in that fuel island is still running even if they walk inside. Get a spare key to lock your door. Now I’m not daft enough to think the extra 3 seconds it takes you to restart the vehicle is cutting into any of our “precious time” but it is less wear and tear on your equipment to just leave it running for the 5-15 minutes you’re fueling, pulling forward, going in, taking a piss, and getting a drink and your receipt.
That said, there’s sons of bitches in these fuel islands who pull forward and take their 30 or longer inside the truck stop. Those people get a quarter stuck in their glad hands.
For those who said "it's called a truck stop for a reason" re-read the signs. Both Flying Js and Loves are no longer called "truck-stops" but "Travel Centers." They cater to RVers as well as truckers. I have relatives and close friends who are/were OTR drivers. My uncle would say "get out and offer to help a Diesel RVer instead of complaining". FYI many states do not allow overnighting in rest areas.
Roy Davis well said. A lot of angry comments on here. Maybe somebody needs a job change. lol
Don't need to be condescending. If you bought it, we brought it! Thanks for the lack of respect.
They only call them travel center now to bring in more people to make money other than that it is a truck stop. so have so respect for the truck drivers
We watched this before picking up our 45' highway coach, and Love's was our first stop. We could not have navigated it successfully without this. Thank you.
It's not gas, it is diesel. Can't believe you didn't wear a seatbelt or check your hookup on the towed vehicle. Slow down man!
I check oil & fluids under the hood; all tires; tow hitch. Every time. It's hard to find trucker's clubs (for banging tires) anymore, so I use a hatchet. Works great and doubles as a scary hand implement in case the bad guys are watching you.
If I had a large RV like this one I would develop a safety checklist just like the truckers have to follow for state and federal regulations. Of course wearing a seat belt is number one in any vehicle.
@@benificentmillipedius634 Here ya go www.raneystruckparts.com/roadpro-19-wooden-tire-thumper/
Great job. Anyone watching this will learn what they need to know in 17 minutes! It took me three or four nervous fill ups to learn, while my wife & I looked like the three stooges when there were really only two of us!
If you are going to make training videos pointing out safety like leaving distance in front of trucks when walking so drivers can see you, YOU should start by being safe yourself WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT when you are on the road.
I would recommend a fueling glove as diesel pumps get nasty.
Ya forgot to squeegee your windshield…..😁
Get an older diesel pusher with no DEF. Older ones are way more reliable.
Yes, DEF wasn't a government requirement until about 2010. There were some earlier regulations about it, but it didn't become required across the board until then. So anything after 2010 will have DEF, which diesels before that probably won't.
Or purchase a deleted unit!
I pull a large trailer with a diesel truck (super duty type). Please let your viewers know that truck-diesel nozzles meant for the "big rigs" are too wide to fit into the filler tube of a regular diesel truck. Your only option may be at the regular fueling station along with other cars. This can be a challenge for larger travel trailers and 5ers. There are sometimes a special fill station in the truck area that has the smaller consumer-type nozzle. It may be the closest pump to the store. It's always a challenge to say the least.
This is a GREAT point! I'll be sure to incorporate that in the future. I know the nozzles are much bigger, but hadn't considered how that would impact a standard diesel pickup truck! Thank you!
My 2023 duramax fits the truck stop pumps. Only thing you have too watch is that the consumer pumps I guess don’t pump as fast so it’ll overflow if you go full throttle on the pump lol
Get a comdata card. Universally accepted at all truck stops.
Comdata is for Commercial use only... last time I checked.
I am 67 years old retired . My kids run my Biz .
I caravan with a group .
We set out at night watch TV play music have cocktails we even play music
My i play Guitar
Les Paul and a Strat. Plus i have Yamaha Piano.
Sometumes we do get loud .
But theres 12 to 15 coachs we bring a lot of revenue to the Park like in Palm Springs we stay 3 months
Napa Ca 6 weeks
Yakama washington 8 weeks
Wisconsin 6 weeks Maine 2 months
"What's DEF?"... the amount of people here that do not realize we live in the Information Age is staggering.
scowell.... DEF stands for "Diesel Exhaust Liquid" and is an aqueous urea solution made with 32.5% urea and 67.5% deionized water. It is standardised as AUS 32 (aqueous urea solution) in ISO 22241. It is a consumable in selective catalytic reduction (SCR) that lowers NOx concentration in the diesel exhaust emissions from diesel engines. Hope that answers your question.
@@Romans--bo7br oh crap, more lingo...what's that in english again? What does it do? What's NOx? Never mind. I'll google it... but I sure hope google give an answer clearer than mud.
Diesel exhaust fluid
A radar detector on a motorhome???? WOW do you drive that fast? I only drive 65mph
Hector Rodriguez if you drive 65 in a 45 or 55 you might need one. 🤣
You drive 65 in a 25 mph zone?
Great advise. 5 to 10 minutes would be more accurate. However if parking is available, just go park. Remember the drivers are working and have limited time. However a lot of truck drivers have less courtesy than you
Scott Myers especially with E logs
Scott Myers who fucking cares, the rest of us work too! Do truck drivers give a fuck about us when they lane hog on a freeway...you know what I mean, plugging the passing lane while going up hill because the rig in the driving lane can only pull the fucking hill 1 mph slower than they are.
So fuck them!!
There are no truck stops left only fule stops with fast food Garbage
Ok, it's time for me to weigh in! Yes, you CAN back up with a tow bar - I'm just not going to teach it as a company. It depends on your skill, technique, vehicle, and kind of tow bar. Generally speaking, if you don't do it right, you can do a tremendous amount of damage, including: bending the tow bar, transmission issues depending on your setup, and most common is the front wheels of the tow vehicle jerking hard to the side and dragging horribly as your monster pushes that little thing down the road.
If you're going to do it, learn the technique! But I"m not gonna tell you how.... :)
Also, regarding truckers vs Rv'ers: It's true that these truck stops really belong to the truckers. This is their home away from home and they've driven a long way to get to this one stop. Remember, they're limited by hours and logs, so they can't always just drive down the road another hour for the next truckstop.
I believe strongly in being respectful to them and staying out of their way. They've developed a dislike for RV'ers for 2 main reasons: RV'ers don't know how to drive, and RV'ers don't know or follow rules of etiquette. Don't be that person! Get trained!
RV Masters over the years I have driven well over a million miles in 3 different diesel pushers I've had dollies on each one of those. Just say that you can pack a dolly up with a car on it when the manual and warning signs on a dolly stating do not back out is opening yourself to libel lawsuits and why you would say that some of the people that don't know how to drive their RVs to learn a technique backing with a dolly it's just plain foolish so obviously you don't know what you're talking about
We were discussing backing a flat 4 towed vehicle, not one that is on a dolly.
RV Masters, Saying rv ers are bad drivers is just nonsense. There are BAD drivers everywhere!!!!! Saying that on this platform , you clearly haven't watched the youtube videoes of truck drivers that are supposedly trained professionals!!! Everyone needs to get off their high horses!! As long as there are HUMANS driving whatever, wherever, however!! There WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD PEOPLE AND ASSHATS!! Everyones bitching and self righteousness does NOT do anything that helps!!
You wasted your time to tell everyone (twice) you won't tell them how to back up? Great post
I am a old truck driver that now drives a desk. I’ve had a bumper pull for 30 years and am looking at a pre 2007 pusher. Without emissions junk. To be honest, an rv in a truck stop or rest area irritated me. Especially if I had to go down the road. I never retaliate if they were parked only taking up one spot. When tip outs became a thing, it would take up part of a second spot. I would get within an inch or two, then turn my reefer on continuous. I could also cock the tractor over to make it very difficult to leave, especially if I was parked on their left side. I agree that it was rude and immature. But, so was taking up two spots. I have pulled my camp trailer many miles and have never slept in a truck stop or rest area. A helpful hint is, campers and motor homes can park in the car area. If you are going to stop for a short time, park there and that way you aren’t taking up a spot. Drivers have to take a 30 minute break after 8 hours of driving and 10 off after 11 hours of driving or 14 hours of on duty. These are federally mandated and if a driver goes beyond that, they not only can be fined, they can accrue points on their CDL, as well be shut down for 10 hours at a weight station. Which may not have rest rooms. I’m sure that I will receive thumbs down and I’m okay with criticism. Your opinion means as much as mine does. Enjoy your day.
I can't believe he said "tail swing"!
I get all my advise from dudes who don't wear seat belts.
Oh..the safety police have arrived. The self proclaimed rulers of the universe fresh out of hall monitor training college.
Most of us do.
Thor really though out the gas vs def locations! lol
Yes, FUEL and DIESEL!!! You are all correct in reminding me. There is a difference, of course. I'll work on being more clear in the future! :)
Cool video. You should wear gloves though a lot of people will go to the restroom not wash their hands come out and use the nozzles pick their nose use the nozzles cough and use nozzle or wash hands after. But gloves is best
When walking past the other fuel bays, pay very close attention to vacant bays, drivers will drive through to hit the restroom etc... Watch that carefully!. With DEF, use caution the stuff is nasty!
The next time you do a video on this.. tell them to get a loyalty card so they can get free stuff when they fuel like free showers
I’m an RVer and any trucker that doesn’t like it can blow me.
I used to drive Class B bucket trucks for this company. Would cost $120 to $200 to fill up. I would always go to the truck stop because I like them and I get points. I would always pre-authorize the pump for $700 or more just to bust my boss's balls. He would always get a call from accounting at corporate asking him why there is a large hold for fuel. He would always call me in and say 'What the hell?". Finally, accounting stopped calling so I pre-authorized for $1,100 and they suspended me from fueling for a week. Haha. Accounting told my boss that the hold can take up to 10 business days to be released. We didn't have a large fleet so having the available credit was an issue. I honestly didn't care. It was fun.
Call everyone at the truck stop “good buddy” when I stop for fuel
What is consumer cards??
That is not get something to eat. Pull to that line and go get the receipt then move on. If you are going in to eat or shop park where you are not blocking and then go in.
So, for all those that come from outside the US (like me) DEF ist your AdBlue to get that diesel to be a bit enviromentalfriendlier :-)
Yes it is.
That I don't know many thx. I was just going to ask the question
Yes, DEF ( Diesel Exhaust Fluid) is an American name for Ad Blue
Just ordered a diesel Rv, I am looking forward to watching all your videos.
Great video, I always wear gloves though when pumping diesel... Especially at a truck stop. Thanks again
Truck stop pumps are some of the dirtest pumps around. I never full up my truck with my bare hands. I recommend using rubber gloves. I just helps to keep you and your vehicle clean
I know you do not need DEF fluid at every fill up, but it would make sense for manufacturers to put these tanks closer to each other so you dont have to move the rig
Or how about buying it in bulk at Sam's Club, for example? Is not it cheaper this way?
....and then there are manufacturers who put the DEF fill on the passenger side. Talk about a pain in the *ss.
@@gonebyrv9748 and there's not dual fill on either side!? Whoever is responsible for that should be slapped silly
. Probably a dumb question what's the difference between the diesel and the d e f
The eye of the storm DEF is diesel exhaust fluid. A chemical containing urea, it is injected into the exhaust. Where it is converted into ammonia they use this chemical reaction to reduce emissions.
Why did you park closer to the fuel office?
Seatbelt!
DEF will go stale....so remember that when filling up and not using/driving for an extended time period.
Please don’t tell rvs to park at truck stops. We are out here working and parking is a major problem. Y’all can park anywhere. We get run off because places like walmart and other stores don’t want 80,000lbs trucks breaking through the parking lot. We are also on federally regulated clocks telling us when to shut down. If we go over we can get a huge ticket.
Enjoyed your video, appreciated your tips and found it informative and to the point! Very professionally done.
Thank you.
FUEL. not GAS. Gas is fer the fourwheelers. Diesels run on FUEL. DO NOT GET THEM CONFUSED!! Bad things (expensive) will happen.
DEF? What's that?
Just remember, when stopped for the night, an inadvertent trucker might hit you, especially at night. Check out the many video posts.
JeepCherokeeful...... That's not surprising, considering the overall lack of intelligence & near complete lack of common sense of today's wannabe "steering wheel holders".... and that's about all they amount to, and can't even do that much, most of the time. It's woefully pathetic these days, who the trucking companies are stuck with for potential "drivers" anymore. Nothing like it was when I started in the 1960s.
If your on the road a lot, rule number one....wear your seat belt it will save your life and the life of others
I can't believe he didn't wear it. Please don't day it was for the sake of filming the video. I bet your wife did have hers on either. So sad to risk ones life.
It’s not that the government DOT Needs to make driver lances special Class for the RV, RV 90% they are the dumbest drivers on the road:( , they blacking the roads , freeway & highways they don’t care they just retired old dogs :(
Never ceases to amaze me; the amount of utter tools who think that RV diesels only come in the pusher variety, nor the amount of fools who call diesel, "gas".
I had to wait for the end,before I maked a comment. .. I LOVE people like you, I love all the money you threw on the ground and did not even know it...the lost of your love card. Which gives you points for showers,free food,etc...which in a big rig or class A motor home can add up real fast,especially like big rigs at 300 gallons(150 gallon per tank x2). You can do the math. Remember if you use truck centers,always get a card,love's, pilot,petro,flying j,nothing better then free money. As to the parking, you well usually find parking during the day, as to night time most truck centers are full at night, just like most people, professional drivers also perfer to drive during the day light hours...Travel centers are professional drivers home...show some respect..
mike wilber.... you mean, "today's" modern steering wheel holders "prefer to drive during the daylight hours"..... however, the real truckers of now, days gone by (except for a few of us, who are still at it after 45+ years).... much preferred driving at Night.... or, day & night if need be... but always covered much more ground at night, still do!
As a trucker looking to buy his first class C or class A RV, I appreciate you pointing out the proper etiquette when at the fuel lanes. I always appreciate RV’ers like. Good video.
Glad I'm pre-emissions. I don't even have EGR on my M11.
Hey...GREAT video for a newbie Diesel driver. Also liked all the comments...pro and con. This was the best training course I've ever taken!
Thanks! If you liked this, I HIGHLY recommend getting the Class A MasterTrack series. This video is HARDLY a snippet of the information I cover in that series - including driving training, backing, campground backing, etc. Thanks for watching!
What are your feelings about school buses converted into RV’s that park in Love’s big rig parking areas and fuel up on the truck side of the station? I don’t have my bus yet (40’ er) but will be towing my car and want to avoid difficulties or misunderstandings when possible. Just as a side note: I’ve read that many/most Walmart’s won’t allow buses or RV’s to park on their lots any more. Is this also true for truckers? Also, many RV parks won’t allow converted buses (Skoolies) to park there either. Why is this?
It’s NOT a gas station it’s a travel plaza (Truck stop) and you are putting DIESEL NOT GAS!!!!
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If your going to do a “how to” video know what you are talking about. SMH