Did Vikings Visit America? | Evidence in Canoe Country, BWCA
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- Join me as I search for evidence of pre-Columbian Viking expeditions deep into the heart of North America on the Kelso River in Minnesota's Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness. In other words, I go on a quest to answer the question, did the Vikings discover North America, 100 years before Columbus? Watch to the end of this video to see the evidence in canoe country and decide for yourself.
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It's not speculation that they made it to North America. We know for certain they were at L'Anse aux Meadows at the mouth of the St. Lawrence. Everywhere else is more speculative.
I agree 100%. I guess the question is if they made it to _ continental_ North America.
Yeah in this video you make it sound like l’anse aux meadows is speculation. It’s not at all. It’s confirmed and it’s a unesco world heritage site.
came here to say that too lol. Yah it’s definitely not in dispute and is archaeologically proven that they at least had a colony in Canada. What is not quite fully clear is if they made it to Minnesota? And yah the way he said it definitely made it sound like he was saying the proven Canadian ones were also somehow speculative but hey other commenters got that covered!
Like discovered in about 1969. And it was more like 400-500 years before Columbus not 100.
A viking ship was discovered on the Missouri River
Given man's explorative and curious nature, and his willingness to risk life and limb in the search of fame and wealth, it's naïve and silly to say Vikings did not visit North America.
I think people from Europe made the trip far earlier, in fact.
People have been travelling all over this globe since before there were people!
And when we invented sails, and winches, and tackles, and worked out how to harness the wind - we tried to go everywhere.
In 2,000 BCE there were tall European people living in Urumchi, in China. Their mummified bodies and colourful clothing are spectacular.
The amazingly preserved ancient shipwrecks in the anoxic Black Sea show just how keen we were to trade by sea from the earliest times.
Thanks for the video. Nicely done. And what a nice canoe you have!
Darn right it is fun to think about!!!!! Thank You.
Nice meetings you out in the woods 👍 Hope you had a great trip New subscriber and I have seen some of your videos because I remember your logo
I live in MN and one way or another there is Viking blood in MN. (And I am not joking about the football Team.) I am half German and half Norwegen. MN is filled with both.(As well as Swedish.) About 3 or 4 generations ago, we came over here. My moms side of the family is 100% Norwegian. I have always felt a strong feeling that my ancestors were Vikings that lived in Norway.
Nice video. I have been to the Viking dolmans in Sweden and frankly, they look nothing like that one. It looks to me like a glacial deposit that is rather striking in appearance. That Kensington Rune looks more authentic to me. But being found by a Scandinavian farmer in Minnesota does raise eyebrows. Someone unfamiliar with rune writing would be more believable I think. But who knows?
The Kensington guy came out and admitted it was a hoax.
Scandinavians settled in large numbers in Minnesota, and have very large communities. So it would make sense to me.
Very interesting. I like what you're doing. And, very well done. 👍
The dolman rock on Kelso river was put there by the CCC workers in the 1930’s when they were working on the trail to the old Kelso mountain fire tower. The old trail is not far from the rock. They supposedly also made a similar one in the woods east of Sawbill Lake.
This is an interesting hypothesis. I might look for the other one east of Sawbill. Any idea about where it might be located?
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOAD OF QUACKADAMIA TOO ME
@Thomas Lietzau 😕
The vikings were definitely in Newfoundland and I expect they did go up and down the coastline, how far is anyones guess but it’s reasonable to suggest, given the distance they’d already sailed to get to the continental Americas, that it was quite a way. Why wouldn’t people known for exploration explore their new surrounding, I thinks it’s fair to say they would have gone upstream when they found one they could sail up. As a means of training the young how to sail they’d have stayed by the shore making these ventures a possibility but again it’s anyones guess. Love the vikings, I live in northern England and h there are loads of towns and villages which have “by” or “thorpe” name endings which are Viking in origin. From the time of the Dane Law which was around a 1000years ago.
BWCA is so epic. Viking life! 🤘
I’ve seen perched glacial erratics like this before. Near Contwoyto Lk in the far North I pushed one into a swamp off its perch on top of an outcrop. Looks natural to me.
New subscriber to your channel. Interesting theory about the CCC making the Dolman. I've been to that location before and my conclusion was that it is probably a glacial erratic. I live near the Kensington runestone discovery site and have some belief that it is authentic however. Thanks for putting this video together.
The scenery is magnificent and beautiful !!
Very intriguing. Enjoyed seeing Boundary Park NP !
Vikings would go to the source of a river system because by doing so, they believed gave them legitimate and legal claim to all the land withing the watershed of that river. For example, go to the source of the Mississippi (in Minnesota) you could claim all the land along the Mississippi as well as each and every tributary.
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I'm pretty sure they visited here............the whole Madoc story is pretty compelling........
Check out the stories of Rose Island, Simon Girty, Welsh Indians, etc, etc, etc.
LOTS of stuff........if you open your mind to it.
This is great additional information. I look forward to checking it out. Thank you!
@@missionwilderness208 Hello, if you ever want to see proof of a Viking ,come to Pa.I will show you!
Nice video, I enjoyed the little canoe trip...It seems very logical to me that a group of guys, with the proper tools, working in the CCC would jump on the chance to set up a table rock if they chanced on a proper rock in a meaningful location...
Yeah, boys with toys, active imaginations, and time on their hands ....
Check out cobscook bay in maine. If what they say about water levels being 100' lower 1000 years ago would have made the bay a fresh water lake that would have been accessible at high water. We have a 28' tidal flow. We also have wild grapes here we grew up calling gooseberries. Many islands you pass before you head into the bay just as the sagas say. Flat habitle land near the coast and small mountains in the back ground. I believe they travel all water ways they would have encountered from the north including the St. Lawrence Seaway to the Great lakes and beyond. Cool video thank you.
1000 years ago sea level was more or less the same.
However, if you go back to the last glacial maximum, it was as much as 125m (~400 ft) lower. From dating human footprints discovered in the White Sands National Monument of New Mexico in the last few years, it is known now that humans settled in the continental United States even before the last glacial maximum (LGM was 21,500 years ago, and the footprints are dated between 23,000 and 21,000 years ago).
Therefore it is not at all impossible that people had already migrated across the continent while sea level was still 125m lower on the East Coast of North America. Given that even today 75% of the world’s population lives within 50km of the sea, and that with sea level 125m lower during the LGM, the almost the Atlantic passive margin (continental shelf) would have been exposed above sea level (it would have been somewhat depressed due to the immense weight of the ice sheets-the seafloor has since rebounded due to glacial isostatic adjustment), and that the shelf offshore of Maine extends to as much as 400km out into today’s Atlantic Ocean (today’s Grand Banks, for example would have been dry land), the inescapable conclusion is that there must be vast, undiscovered amounts of evidence of ancient human habitation on the seafloor, offshore, buried under recent sediments.
The Vikings landing in North America is an established fact. One of their settlements was discovered at a site called L'Anse Aux Meadows at the Northern tip of Newfoundland in 1960. It was reconstructed by the government and is now a world heritage site. I'm surprised you seem unaware of this. Also they landed about 500 years before Columbus not 100
Thanks for the comment. I get it a lot. I might be pronouncing the name incorrectly in the video, but I mention the Newfoundland site.
Very interesting! Although your frequently make a reference to ".. 100yrs before Columbus ".. the Newfoundland settlement is nearly 500 yrs prior to Columbus, no? Are you suggesting a second wave of Viking exploration? By that time the Greenland settlements were all but abandoned
Great video , great boating & I'd love to fish there
That's some beautiful land. I also think there's quite a bit we don't know about our past here in America. Soo much strange stuff in many south America places and some biblical ties. Just so much covered up or just kept hidden for ages like the Vatican, I believe one Day we will get the insight on some of that past
That was very interesting, regardless of where it came from.
Very interesting great stuff.
the Kensington rune stone, has been confirmed to be authentic.
By whom?
I'm also curious. I've heard that more recent evidence has validated the stone, but I just haven't had time to check it out. I'm planning on a trip to Alexandria, MN to visit the stone and museum and am hoping to learn more about its authenticity.
@@dealyfielder271 by him
It has been proven to be a bad fake time and time again. I am a dane, and runestones are common in Scandinavia. The runes are never carved in horizontal lines, and they are contained within snaking cartouches and certain phrases on the Kensington stone are several hundred years younger than it's purported age. It can easily be verified by a simple Google Search
Kensington runestone is authentic. It was probably Swedes from Gotland, which was a feifdom run by the Cisterian Order. The Cistertians were the parent organization of the Templars. The Templars send out a number of expeditions to find a New Jerusalem and a place where sheep could be raised for the wool.
A number of tells on the runestone itself indicate it is he real McCoy, like the dating format used.
The discoverer of the runestone admitted it to be a fake.
Try Google for authentic Scandinavian runestones. The carvings are never horizontal like in a book as on the Kensington stone, often they are curled around the front of the stone. The inscriptions on the Kensington stone use phrases that are several hundred years apart from the rest of the inscriptions. A scholar likened it to writing "LOL" in an 18th century text.
Unfortunately for vikings, they landed in New England where the natives were most united into confederation and probably didn't let them get established.
Enjoyed the video! Well done. I am leaning towards an erratic based on the large number in the area. Imagine how many are under the water! That said it is one of the coolest ones I have seen. Thanks for sharing!
There is evidence of Celts inhabiting New England and New York State over 3000 years ago. Much has been destroyed with development but a lot of megalithic stone work still exists today. If you know what to look for...
If you know what to look for ...😂 Is it some kind of masonic secret or what? Present the tiniest bit of evidence, please
Correctly speaking, the Scandinavian word "viking" refers only to Pagan pirates. "Vik" means a small harbor in Swedish. After around 1000 AD, Scandinavians became increasingly Christian, so a more accurate word for Christian settlers or settlers, would be Scandinavian. "Ven" does not mean wine or grapes in Archaic Scandinavian. It means "grass" or "pasture." Ven Island in the Oresund Channel, where I designed a pedestrian village, got its name because in the Bronze Age, the entire island was used as a commons pasture. St. Ibs Kirken, next to my village site, was constructed around 900 AD. So, most likely, you should be looking for the presence of Medieval Christian Scandinavians.
Very simply, in the early 1600s, after the Promulgation of the Treaty of London 1604, the Spanish government began surveying North America to draw large lines separating Quebec from Acadia from Spanish holdings in the South, from Russia in the West, and the Protestant colonial areas on the Eastern Seaboard (to be developed by European Protestants).
The effort obtained experienced surveyors from the Swedish Empire (who were Catholic and no longer desired in Sweden), and experienced Jesuit missionaries.
As a consequence of that selection many of the survey points were identified as any one of three terms ~ Bohall/Boal, Arcola, and Seymour.
The Jesuits chose those names for benchmarks for several good reasons ~ Henri/Henry de Bohal or Enrique de Boal ~ one of the Jesuit "saints" and well known for sponsoring scientific discovery, and founding the Jesuit order. His father was King of Portugal, and Enrique is the fellow who became known to history as Henry the Navigator
At the head waters of the Mississippi, there's a Lake Bohall named after Henry Bohall (same guy) which is an Anglo/French version of the name, frequently found in Brittany and Scandinavia.
The Seymour benchmarks were named after Jane Seymour who outed Anne Bolyn as a traitor to Henry VIII ~ thereby retrieving the Spanish Royal Family's honor for the mistreatment of Catherine of Aragon.
Arcola was simply a place of special interest to the Jesuits due to two Marian apparitions.
You can take Places named Bohall, Seymour, and Arcola and draw lines from place to place and discover ~ in the N/S and E/W the primary lines used in the Spanish survey.
A good Gazeteer wil help. Globally, the name "boa/boal/bohal/bowhal/bohall" and several hundred other variations are found literally everywhere. This had also been the name of a highly prized grape in Northern Europe and in Madeira, and later became a trade name for the many Portuguese fatoria set up in the 1500/1600 period. The name in several spellings is still used on the world's most expensive wines...
The Kensington stone was located at the Northern Most point on the Spanish prime meridian in North America. It starts at ARCOLA TEXAS. The Runic alphabet characters are usually judged too modern for Medieval Swedish but actually they are MIXED with old and new characters because the Swedish surveyors had been educated at a time in history when most of the old time runic character teachers had DIED in a plague. So, the surveyors were doing the best they could.
Same thing happens at a site over in New Mexico where the Spanish colony at Virginia traveled to when they shut down the Fleet operations on Chesapeake Bay in 1598.
Another well known line starts at the point of Cape Code and runs West to Lake Michigan.
Another defines the boundary of modern Virginia and North Carolina all the way to the Mississippi.
The place that has the most edible berries in Canada is Newfoundland Vine land
Don't look for berries. Vinland means "Land of Pastures" or "Land of Meadows" in Old Norse.
Sorry I don't get what you say about L'Anse aux Meadows and there being very little evidence of Viking settlement there. The site contains the remains of eight buildings, and over 800 Norse objects have been found at the site (see Wikipedia etc).
Historical investigation by kayak, relaxing and fascinating! I really wanted to believe but it was disappointing.. how would they have moved a giant rock with longboat resources for a start?
Like U said, the "Table Rock" could be an old CCC marker for the nearby trail to the tower. But I do believe that the Vikings were the first Northern European people to explore the area.
Vikings lived during the Viking age = 795 to 1050 AD.
They did not use graves like this Dolmen - in swedish "Dösar". Dödar was our first megalitic type of monumental graves from older stone age, about 5-6.000 years before the Viking age.
After dödar come other megalitic gravre types as: Gånggrifter, Hällkistor and Rösen.
Gånggrifter are from younger stone age. Hällkistor also. During the bronze age rösen was used, often together with hällkistor.
Boatgraves was used during the Vendel age, then come the Viking age with shipgraves and small and big mounds.
The Dolmen seen in the video are here named "laing hens" and are big stones transported in the inland ice when it melted for about 9.000 years ago. The stone was in a layer with gravel and sand when the ice melted and when the melting water push the gravel away the big stone landed on three smaller stones and it looks like a monument - and it is a monument from the melting ice time ice. We have many of them, all over Scandinavia.
So, it is a monument, and it is not a grave type Dödar. And it is not from our Viking age. It is much older then the Viking age.
It is placed very nicely and monumental (most of this type of monumental are) and take care of it well. It can be one of the oldest monuments in North America.
I don't think it's a viking dolman ( I have visited many UK prehistory sites and newer historical sites), it's definitely a interesting one really good video 👍
I dunno bout that one. Iv seen lots of odd rock formations from glacial engineering in that area. But I do believe they were all over with no record, and left cuz of the mini ice age circa 1200. A taller tale by word of mouth {and another ship} is from SoCal desert. There was a Spanish Galleon ship found buried in the sand, dated to 1400 from Nat Geo. The CO river flooded the entire area, named back then Lake Cahuilla and went all the way south to Sea of Cortez. They came up there finding black pearls in the freshwater clams. Got stuck as the flood receded. But, in the nearby mnts there was a lot of canyons and local miners from Julian CA said there was a Viking ship smashed on the rocks nearby. Several people talked bout it. Finally a couple went to go find it, and did they claimed. But before they could go back the earthquake of '33 happened, caving in the canyons. Which that was true, cuz the Goat Canyon train tressle nearby caved in every tunnel from that quake. It is recorded somewhere in the mining museum in Julian CA.
Interesting!
Really fascinating. It is not widely understood how lush the Coachella Valley was at one time and that Lake Cauhilla extended from the mountains to the east and west and more further south. Then a mega drought cycle came in and the lake shrunk.
@@joanmavima5423 I love that area. Spent 2012-2020 around there camping and exploring on enduro bike. I found so many caves with color drawings, metates, fish traps, drawings to the sky {forgot the graph name}. I actually started sharing photo's with the new museum in Ocotillo but wouldnt tell them where, lol. The more people come in contact with that stuff the faster it gets destroyed.
Vikings 100 years befor Columbus? According to traditional history, viking age ended 1066. By the way, "viking" was something some people did. Most norse people were farmers, fishermen or traders, they were not "vikings". Viking age is an English expression referring to the time when norse pirates and warriors but also farmers and settlers, raided parts of England. :-)
Of course they were in Mn , they left a football team because they wanted winners
This is quite interesting. These dolmens and standing stones are not unknown in the northeast USA. There are many such as the one you pictured that are ignored as glacial erratics by geologists and archeologists. Many other researchers have shown that these anomalies more than not point to celestial observatories that help predict the change of seasons. Finding this in Minnesota is awesome . Some GPS ànd compass measurements might be useful.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this information.
I think it is the Scandinavian settlers to MN that like to sell this idea the Vikings got to MN. I think it is probable they could have gotten to the Hudson Bay and maybe made their way up rivers there and into Manitoba and South....but that was the theory of the late writer Farley Mowat, and he did love to spin a tale. However, if the Vikings got to MN. You have to explain how they got there and since there is zero evidence of them coming into the Great Lakes, the only other way to MN is through the Arctic and into the Hudson Bay watershed and up through the various rivers into Manitoba
I really enjoyed your video, very entertaining & a relatively slick production.
The "dolman" looks like a glacial deposit, just as Juan has stated (below). i can easily believe that by the action of glacier melt, a large boulder came to rest on top of smaller rocks. In fact, that's my hypothesis. Regardless, L'Anse aux Meadows is proof enough that Vikings "could have" done this or perhaps created/left other relics as a result of travels and explorations in North America. (Whether they actually did or not, are in each case a subject for scholarly studies, of course.)
Wow when you said speculation you really understate the dolmen Could easily be left there from glacial activity.
I'm a Minnesota boy and, as such, want the Kensington Rune stone to be legit but.... in my heart of hearts I don't really believe t is....
Please research further! There is still evidence and other Runes.
Just a glacier eradic ....Pretty common natural feature on the Canadian shield region...We have a much more impressive one in Hingham Ma.
I read about the Kensington stone while in grad school in 1970. Because the runes were mixed, mostly Norse, with some Irish (Celtic) the stone was considered a fake. Later studies postulated that the Norsemen may have had an Irish scribe with them. The bore holes in boulders that were thought to be holes for mooring rods/rings did have iron rust remains in them, as I recall.
Spain hired Swedish survey teams with trained Jesuits.... they ran the first continent size surveys in the Americas in the early 1600s!
@@ptbohall8075 I don't see how your remark relates to my comment.
When you say KENSINGTON STONE and Grad school in 1970, understand that this is 50 years later, and a lot more is known NOW than THEN about the various very old and still mysterious cut stones found in the USA.
Frankly, I didn't read through the entire English, Spanish, Portuguese and French versions of the Treaty of London 1604 until just 20 years back, and the information was right there in the codicils.
That's when Spain carved up the Americas and handed much of it out to others ~ and paid for the survey...
Numerous OTHER stones have been found throughout America that relate directly to that survey. The Kensington stone is a benchmark. Down in Arcola Texas, due South, there's another benchmark, somewhere. Likely a large brick wall covered by beach sand ~ just like the one at the Tip of Cape Cod. That's Cabo de Bacalos (the name of one of the explorers who discovered Labrador ~ which is itself named after one named Laboradore)
Another is over just South of the mouth of the St. Joseph River where it enters Lake Michigan, and maybe one around Memphis TN ~
The point is that if you want to know who used Runic characters on the Kensington stone, it was found right where it ought to be. Oh, along the PA/NY stateline they found an old small Spanish ship that sank in the river. Right where if a Spanish ship was to sink, one would be found ~ that having been Spanish territory at the time.
@@ptbohall8075 Are you saying that the Spanish used Norse runes in Minnesota. Sorry. This doesn't make any sense to me.
Try Google for authentic Scandinavian runestones. The carvings are never horizontal like in a book as on the Kensington stone, often they are curled around the front of the stone. The inscriptions on the Kensington stone use phrases that are several hundred years apart from the rest of the inscriptions. A scholar likened it to writing "LOL" in an 18th century text.
Very interesting thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice video. Not convinced at all that the this dolman has any Viking connection. I am convinced by the Kensington Stone though, which I am familiar with. There's no way the Vikings would have made settlements in cold Labrador and Nova Scotia and then stayed there without exploring further south and inland. But they will have been hampered by having a very small number of people who made it across to America (via Greenland), and their empire was coming to an end back in Europe, and the climate had turned colder also, ending the farming settlements in southern Greenland, so they had little or no support. The Kensington runes tell a story that their group had been attacked and suffered casualties, the stone being carved by the survivors who has fled another 10 or so miles to the south. To me the only uncertainty is whether they were attacked by native Americans, or bigfoot. Like Scotland was for the Romans, North America will have been a terrifying place for the Vikings to explore, as both were unmapped and covered in thick forests which made guerilla warfare easy for the native inhabitants, both human and hairy. The vast distances in North America will also have made their task unenviable.
Great comment. ❤️ the Color Commentary. What was that like … the Northern Continent 1000 years ago ?
Idk. Considering that the region was heavily populated by powerful tribes of indigenous Americans, I doubt the Vikings would have made it very far with the few people they had available for exploring so far inland, without encountering resistance before they made it very far down the St. Lawrence, let alone to Minnesota.
Thanks - interesting video. However I think dolmens are more form the stone age than from the viking age. We have a lot of them here in Denmark. In the viking age burial mound were used, at least for the kings, but in the viking age Denmark went over to Christianity. You can se examples of two big danish burial mounds (King Gorm the Old and perhaps also Queen Thyre) next to a church and genuine historic runic stones (where it is announced by the son of King Gorm - King Harald Bluetooth - that Denmark has went over to Christianity) in my film here: Jelling - a viking-town in Denmark with runic stones - th-cam.com/video/txFkuMaHeBw/w-d-xo.html - you can see a description in english in the video.
If the dolmen you have found is not made by vikings (or other people) it may just be a big stone left by the ice on top of smaller stones when the ice melted away at the end of the ice age.
By the Viking age the Vikings were well into steel, but not beyond stones if need be. I think it looks rather like the rock in my father's backyard ~ huge chunk of granite from Wisconsin pushed by a glacier all the way to Indianapolis....covered by dirt... not moveable. Still, digging around that rock to see how deep it was we found CLOVIS POINTS! So, likely, when they were in the area, before flooding covered that rock with tons of dirt, they made camp!
Dude, it is a certainty they were here. They found a settlement in Canada about 70 yrs ago,
The Vikings were here to discover new lands we know they had a (camp) in Newfoundland, Vikings of that era having sailed South down the coast finding the St Lawrence Seaway they would never stop they would follow that Waterway as far as it went and when they encountered the Great Lakes they would have been intrigued and they would have sailed on until the farthest reaches of those Lakes. You can bet the Vikings were here and probably sailed every major river in the US and Canada.
Yah, it's easy to believe the Vikings would have traveled past L'Anse but at this point, it's just about finding definitive empirical evidence of those travels.
@@missionwilderness208 is there any history of it in L'Anse MI??
@@tieoneon1614 "L'Anse" simply means "the bay" in French. "L'Anse aux Meadows" means "bay with grasslands".
In Michigan, it refers to the Keweenaw Bay upon which the village sits. The French had a fur trading post in L'Anse, Michigan, as well as a Jesuit mission. In fact, Baraga, Michigan - close by on the bay - is named after the founder of that mission, Bishop Frederic Baraga.
Both locations were part of "New France", the colonization of America by France, which pretty much ended with the 1763 Treaty of Paris when they gave up almost all their interests in America to Britain and Spain.
That's the only real connection between both the names and locations.
Particularly in the warm fertile valleys.
@@NorthernKitty or woman with a nice bush".
In the early seventies my stepfather's dad claimed to have found viking mounds in Minnesota. He lived near Purim, Mn.
He was dying and my stepfather was there for last goodbyes. Before we returned home my stepfather took me on a search for them. It wasn't to far from Purim as I recall.
We were turned back by the clouds of mosquitoes and have never been back since. Always wondered if this could be true. Any thoughts?
How did he recognize them as Vikings? Indigenous Americans of the Midwest were famed mound builders. In fact, the Hopewell people constructed mounds in Minnesota. There is an “Indian Mounds Park” right in St. Paul.
There are several mound sites on the US Canadian border along the Rainy River but as the commenter noted, they are attributed to the indigenous American inhabitants. I've read that early American archeologists initially hypothesized that mound structures in places like Ohio and Missouri were built by Vikings. Subsequent works seems to demonstrate that the mounds were built by America's indigenous people, but your step grandfather might have been repeating some of those early hypotheses.
This boulder was dropped by glacier melt onto another rock formation over thousands of years flooding have removed other smaller rocks from under the large boulder, thus leaving what you see today. Sorry, not constructed by Vikings or CCC.
How big is the large rock?
Good question! Now that you mention it, I probably should have gotten a shot of the width. In the meantime, I would guess about 5' x 3.5' x 4"
I can show you something very much like your "dolmen" in the Park range of NW Colorado. I'm pretty sure the Vikings didn't construct it.
I don't think that it is far fetched to think that the Vikings may have entered Minnesota via the Hudson Bay, Lake Winnipeg and the Red River
Do you really think the Norse could have hauled their 20 ton ships up those rivers, all of which are full of rapids and waterfalls. Many of the rivers would have been too shallow across long stretches for their ships. You also have to ask yourself - why would the Norse go so far inland? Trade - unlikely as they had plenty of resources in the eastern arctic to trade for and then export to Europe. How did they get past all the Indigenous people without running into trouble?
Does anyone know what is the earliest known existence of this 'dolman'? I have a hard time believing this is a monument Norsemen would have created. The appearance seems more akin to stacked stones or 'zen stones' you see along beaches and waterways piled up by new-agey shamans, than a Viking grave. Cool, nonetheless. Have you ever been to the petroglyphs on North Hegman, or Lake Agnes, just north of Ely, now those are cool!
Thats more like a land marker.. Indian village or gravesite
The viking age ended before 1100CE. There were no 14th century vikings.
Other than that, no notes. Good video.
I find the Kensington Rune quite a lot more interesting than the dolman. But thanks for showing the 'dolman'!
You're very welcome! I'm planning a visit to the actual Kensington Stone sometime in the next few months.
This is a great video
Considering that ALL my relations are Swedish and Norwegian (pure) and homesteaded in Minnesota, how do you think they FOUND that place??? Probably old Norse legends and such. No surprise.
cmon man thats ridiculous
@@richardconnelly7141 most of my relatives are just that. you have to be ridiculous to live there.
A time machine?
The Kensington Runestone is almost certainly a hoax. If you look at the analysis of the grammar, use of runes and words, etc, it contains very specific elements found later in the language and is missing key elements from the purported date of the stone. One particular word on the stone wasn't adopted into the language until the 16th century. Not coincidentally, that same word was used a lot in the late 19th century (around the time the stone was discovered) by a historian who wrote articles on Viking exploration, and it's assumed that's why the hoaxster used it. Additionally, the carvings aren't properly weathered: "The inscription is about as sharp as the day it was carved ... The letters are smooth showing virtually no weathering." (Newton Horace Winchell, Minnesota Historical Society.)
Any history of the trapping industry or folk tales from your area.
How did the Vikings get their big longboats around Niagara Falls?
They used a few different designs and techniques. They raided up rivers all over Europe and eastern Russia. The following link isn't exactly scholarly but it explains how they might have done it. www.vikingorm.nl/en_page_vikingfeiten_vervoer.htm
Just the same way they could go with ships from the Baltic sea to the Black sea, up and down the river systems.
That is nothing more than a large rock deposited on smaller ones by melting glacier ice
Glacial debris. Conveniently located to be used as a Fire Tower marker. The Dolman of Great Britain and Europe are nothing like this.
My money is on some bored CCC guys piling up some rocks.
As for the Kensington Rune stone, I have a hypothesis. I grew up 45 miles from where it was found. In the early 1820's an adventurer named Giacomo Beltrami was wandering around western Minnesota. It so happens that he was an educated linguist. I think he inscribed the stone as a joke. If Vikings did explore the area they most likely would have traveled south on the Red River from Hudson Bay.
100% a perched glacial erratic, which was eroded out of till and ended up sitting on a few smaller stones when the matrix and smaller stones in which it was embedded were transported away. IMO. But nonetheless a wonderful canoe trip into some beautiful country.
There is another stone on rocks in the boundary waters, BWCA, it’s on a creek, not lake. I have a picture, looks similar. It was purportedly built by beaver fur traders in the 17 or 1800s. They did it for fun. Those guys were very strong and very bored. Not made by glacial or Nordic explorers. I grew up in Duluth area and learned history from quality hearsay at best. I’ve been studying Native sites for 20 years now. Have not seen or heard of other Anglo sites besides 1800 forts from MN to the Dakotas.
Anyway decent paddling to get there.
Interesting! Would you be willing to tell us the location of the other structure?
@@missionwilderness208 I can’t say exactly. I personally only seen one. 25 years ago, don’t remember where exactly. If you google BWCA tripod rocks or table rocks there are pictures and some lake names. It seems there are several of these types of rocks. I’d love them to be Viking, but I’m not sure. I’m of Swedish decent, with lineage back to 1200 in Sweden, last name has a Lund in it! 😊have a good one!
@@greymatter6834 Thanks for the tip. I looked up tripod rocks and immediately found one on Lake Wisini that looks a lot like the Kelso "Dolmen." Very cool about the Swedish lineage. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the comments!
@@missionwilderness208 Your welcome. Thanks for the interesting videos. I subbed and wish you the best. I miss the north woods more than I can describe. I made it up to kettle river 2 years ago fishing. Still got the backwoods Minnesota soul! I’m out by the Black Hills now. Lund means a grove of trees 🌲
one in Bedford Nova Scotia just like that called Eagles Rock
Wow!
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That could be natural. It could be what they call an "erratic." Basically left behind after a glacier retreated.
there is little doubt they wintered over on the tip of New found land
What kayak are you paddling?
It's actually an open-top canoe and more specifically, it's a Northwind Solo. I use a double-bladed paddle because I have a shoulder issue that gets seriously aggravated by the continuous J-stroking that solo paddling with a single blade requires. The kayak paddle allows me to rely on my large shoulder muscles without putting much pressure on the joint. Thanks for the question.
perhaps, a real reason - archeolgists don't like new proof, it would screw up " treaty lands " and all thos big corp logging & mining right ?
They have 2 sites in Canada L'anse Aux Meadows and Rosse Point.
L'anse Aux Meadows is a confirmed site. Rosse Point was thought to be a site based on the geology of the area but it has been researched and no evidence at all has been found.
What about the stone structure in Massachusetts theres alot of them .people say there for sun reading or for when to start there crops.theres so many cool thing in the woods if you look hard you might find something cool.
Sure - but nothing to do with Vikings
love the channel
Perhaps the rune stone could have been brought by some Norskies or Scandinavians from Norway?
Um. No. They most likely never made it that far inland. The did have a colony on Newfoundland though and also Labrador. We have the sites.
Agreed. The evidence in Newfoundland is undisputed but as MAVERICK 120 Adventures indicates in a following comment, it's hard to believe that the Vikings would not have continued west, especially given the versatility of their long boats.
Yeah, that evidence doesn't convince me.
I could go either way. Some doctoral student out there should do a study of CCC journals and other documents to test the hypothesis that the structure was built by contemporary Americans.
I bet you believe the Earth is flat then....
Try Google for authentic Scandinavian runestones. The carvings are never horizontal like in a book as on the Kensington stone, often they are curled around the front of the stone. The inscriptions on the Kensington stone use phrases that are several hundred years apart from the rest of the inscriptions. A scholar likened it to writing "LOL" in an 18th century text.
There’s mooring stones all around central Minnesota
Interesting! I had not heard of these stones, but look forward to learning more.
You can find mooring stones at maple wood state park & in the town of pelican Rapids mn
Learn your history, vikings were at L'anse aux Meadows in 1021, its already proven. Thats allmost 500 years before Columbus, who came to America in 1492. There are clear fingerprints of vikings at L'anse aux Meadows, the traces of the viking settlement who must have been there for some years, a longhous and carbondating of wood leftovers from it. The longhous that no doubt were there, is unic to the vikings. And sins Leiv Erikson, who were the viking traveler and his crew sailing there, died around 1020, they must have been there, probably closer to year 1000. By the way, the viking era is considered over at around year 1050-1100. The stone structure u show and refere to in your video, is no typical viking ritual. I would say its of old indian origin, but the structure in this video dont even look like a table, so it probably closer to nothing, maybe just a landmark, or actually just random placed by the ice at the end of the ice age, we han many such random stone and structures in Norway and scandinavia, from the ice age. As do you guys, in northern USA, Rocky Mountains, Canada and Alaska.
Very well stated. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Yeah I told him his numbers were all wrong and a couple other things he got wrong and my comment was deleted. Guess he didn't notice your comment. Eric the Red Lief father settled Greenland in 982 ad. Leif died in Greenland in 1022 ad so there's no way he was here only " 100 years before Columbus ". Well unless you believe in the spirit world.☺He should stick to the wilderness stuff and leave history to people who know it.
What about the settlement in Nova Scotia
i am unaware of any settlements on Nova Scotia. Could you mean the settlement on Newfoundland?
There are no Norse settlement sites in Nova Scotia.
SKOAL man. I'm a Vinlander Samurai of the Cat Nation. By the *river of deer fur and the shroom mound. Seriously lake Erie means Big Tailed cat..the Cat Nation. I've known some stoned Scandinavians My childhood home along the *SCIOTO had wild grapes...Vinland is the great lakes regions man. Just look at these grapes all around.
LSD?
I believe they were here. I just don’t think you presented anything valid today. But the video is great and I subscribed to your channel. That landscape is quite beautiful
They didn't just visit many stayed and many of ours left to Iceland , also old Viking religion originated in North America, not from Asia to Ice Land with new DNA research says .
If the Vikings had known everyone would be picking away at their dolmen .they would have brought more table like stones with them.😊
I noticed you said Viking was year 1300 .. thats not true my friend.. The Viking Age (793-1066 CE) I think the Vikings died off in England and France.. then later after Scandinavian vikings was being turned into christians they sailed towards Iceland and greenland and futher out like America.. but as a Danish guy i has to correct the history .. because Being viking was not a christian religion and the truth to when the age died is written on a dumb stone in THE TOWN OF JELLING - JUTLAND - DENMARK.. ;D
Not a viking dolman. Sorry. Definitely not.
As for Vikings travelling into the interior via the great lakes? Probable.
Even here in central Scotland where their influence is everywhere, there is only small fragments of evidence that they navigated the Clyde river up to Peebles, where they then created a portage route to the source of the tweed. Basically following in the footsteps of the Romans.
900-1000 AD, the Vikings where at the top of their game. The ship repair point in Newfoundland tells you all you need to know about the intention of exploration in North America.
Ummm ... no. Not a "Viking Dolmen".
This is a rock settled on a couple support stoned after glacial melt.
that's not a dolman. yeah wishful thinking. I'm sure they did visit but never settled.
I think a cairn would do for marking a trail. Not what that was I'm sure it's glacier/weathering caused
100 years before Columbus, there were no vikings! They didn’t make Dolmans that was 4000 years before!
Cripes you are drawing a big bow on this one. No doubt though that the Vikings made it to at least North America
mooring holes carved into standing riverstones for norse longboats.....
United States has a Leif Ericson holiday
If they have a statue it will be torn down in due time
Yeah it's on my birthday.