I'm 53 years old. Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, and Princess Leia were the women action heroes I grew up with. Trinity as well. I think they have a different style than the ones today.
Yeah. Now they're just inexplicably powerful out of the blue, and spend all their time ridiculing and making fools of all the men around them. It seems like it was DESIGNED to make men hate women and make women hate themselves.
April 2015, I was at Calgary Comic Expo, the main guests were the entire cast of Aliens. On the last day, at the closing announcement, they had Bill Paxton do his "game over" speech to close the show instead. The whole show stopped as soon as we all realized it was not the normal announcer - thousands of people all at once broke out laughing. Rest in peace Bill, you are missed.
Yes. We watched Edge Of Tomorrow in the theater and for the life of me I couldn't figure out who was playing the Master Sergeant. Boy did I feel stupid when I finally realized it was Paxton. I can't think of any role he did that wasn't great.
I love that they referenced his "Game over" speech in the first Halo game. Also, did you know Alien was referenced by Arthur C. Clarke in 2010? As the Soviet and American engineers first board the derelict USS Discovery the ship is cold, dark, and very creepy. One says to the other, "Just watch out for the cat." The other responds with, "Who the hell thought it was a good idea to put that movie on a real spaceship."
Speaking of costumes, I always found it interesting that the only evolution in men's clothing style in the future is that they turned up their suit collars.
In the first film, three Jones' were used iirc? One for holding, one for hissing and one for running away. Four were used for Jones in this, dunno what the fourth aspect would be though tbf.
I always try to watch the special edition for Hudson's boasting speech (which makes his arc of cowardice to heroic last stand so much better). "We got knives! Sharp sticks!" RIP indeed.
I have to admit, at 40 years old I love watching your generation experience this movie for the first time. Its one of my favorites and I saw it when I was 10.
Ripley's "Get away from her you BITCH!" is one of the most badass lines in moviedom. Carrie Henn (Newt), did a really great job in the movie, but decided acting wasn't for her. She left Hollywood and became a teacher. Paul Reiser (Burke) took his mother to the premiere. His character was such a scumbag that his mother stood and cheered when he died.
You can tell by the look he gives Ripley when they first get on the drop ship that Hicks is the only one that actually read her report. His actions toward her and respect from then on makes sense.
If you think the actor playing the Srgt is pretty good at being in charge, that's because he's the real deal. He was a former Srgt in Vietnam so yeah he knows how to act on charge. Behind the scenes he helped the cast with acting more like an authentic unit working together.
As an NCO myself, I patterned my leadership style after that fine NCO. Also, Gunny Highway. Just some no bullshit dudes who wanted to Charlie Mike (Continue the Mission).
Yeah, you guys are right.Al Matthews who played Sergeant Apone, was a real life Marine Corps Sergeant, who served with the 1st Marine Division in Vietnam.He also played the African American GI In YANKS who gets into a fight with a racist White GI because he was dancing with a white girl at the New Year’s Eve event in England during World War Two.Sergeant Matthews died in 2018 aged 75.RIP SERGEANT MATTHEWS 🙏
Well, thanks for the clue leading to this information, I had no idea : "Al Matthews became the first black Marine to be meritoriously promoted to the rank of Sergeant (E-5). Williams was also the first "black voice" on England's national station, 'Radio 1." May he rest in peace.
A funny little detail about Michael Biehn is that he's actually using the same model of shotgun in both Terminator and in this film, the Ithaca 37. This is likely a small nod to the prior role, especially given the prominence of the weapon in both films, but a really cool detail is that when Michael Biehn played a character in The Mandalorian (I won't spoil anything about that), his character uses a scatter blaster (energy shotgun) that looks an awful lot like a Star Wars-ified Ithaca 37. It's a little prop detail but I rather like it.
Being directed by James Cameron, there’s a lot of casting connections between Terminator and Aliens. You have Michael Biehn as Reese in Terminator/Hicks in Aliens Lance Henriksen as Detective Hal Vukovich in Terminator/Bishop in Aliens, Bill Paxton as one of the street punks in Terminator/Hudson in Aliens Jenette Goldstein as Vasquez in Aliens/Janelle Voight (John’s Foster Mother in Terminator 2) Bill Paxton is also the only actor to be killed by a Terminator, Alien and Predator.
The 'Mommy' line always bugged me because Newt had only known Ripley for about 8 hours or so. And even though it was a rough 8 hours it would've been nothing compared to the fight she witnessed when the colony was attacked where she lost everyone she had ever known.
@@jukesfood5601 It's a freaking movie. Human emotional experiences are always compressed in time because the film only has a couple hours to tell the tale. That's why in romantic comedies, the couple are hopelessly in love after two hours.
@@DMichaelAtLarge The length of the film had zero to do with what I was talking about. Newt had to go through weeks of hell as the colony outpost was attacked and where everyone she'd ever known was being killed. I highly doubt in the few hours she knew Ripley she'd be calling her "mommy".
30 years after I watched this movie it was pointed out to me that the woman in the chestburster scene managed to not get captured by the aliens until a day before the marines turned up. If she had just managed to stay hidden for one day longer she may well have survived. Really sad if you think about it.
Everybody has a purpose in life. Some people's purpose is to serve as an example to others. She served the purpose assigned to her by God (James Cameron) to remind the audience of the stakes involved after 7 years passed IRL between movies. Don't need to grieve a movie character that served her purpose
And did Newt and her know about each other and were surviving together. Has Newt just had to start to change her survival strategy as a result. Reevaluating whole film now.
Bill Paxton was also briefly in "The Terminator," as the spiky haired member of the trio that the terminator demanded clothes from. Lance Hendrickson(Bishop), was a plainclothes police officer in that movie.
Hicks isn't the only one that was also in the first Terminator movie. Bishop was the cop in the Police Station who was trying to call Sarah Connor. The cool thing is that Bishop and Hicks both died in Terminator but they both got to live in this movie even though Bishop got ripped in half. I do love how Newt and Ripley bonded throughout this movie. I really loved it when Newt called Ripley "Mommy" at the end.
It's so funny how you flick your hand at things you want to go away. (It's very cute.) Reminds me of an adorable movie starring Peter Sellers, called "Being There." It was about a man who was very simple and not that familiar with the world at large. He has to venture out from a longstanding job, which had him essentially cloistered from the world, when his employer dies. In his encounters with people, his simplicity is mastaken for profundity, which results in him becoming a resource for powerful world leaders. Back to your hand-flicking, in one scene, when confronted by muggers, he tries to make them disappear with a TV remote. :)
There are entire movies and tv series written today to represent empowering women and none of those hours and hours of film can match the power of Vasquez saying "Let's Rock" and letting loose with her smart gun for a 3 second scene. Absolute badass.
The entire cast is amazing, but I'd like to give particular respect to Paul Reiser. At this point in his career, Paul was known for being a stand-up comedian and for comedic roles, with only a handful of acting credits under his belt. He's so good in this movie, shifting effortlessly to a serious role where you're not quite sure what he's capable of. At first you think he's just a company man, trying to protect Weyland-Yutani's interests, until.... And Paul pulls it off brilliantly. Kudos to the casting crew for getting him and believing he could play the part.
"Is there anything you can do?" - don't judge Apone for asking that question, don't forget she spent the last almost 60 years asleep. It would be a very relevant question nowadays or any other time. The laughter afterwards was genuine and good-natured, not derogatory or mocking.
Shortly after the film's world premiere, actor Paul Reiser -- who played Carter Burke -- was on Letterman and he told the story of how he took his mother as his guest to the world premiere. They got to the scene where Burke gets it from an alien, and his own mom stood up and cheered.
Also, Bill Paxton was such a gentleman that he felt bad whenever the script required him to swear around Newt (Carrie Henn). After every scene that he where he swore around Newt he apologized to her. EVERY scene. That's why his line was "Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen" instead of the classic line (forgive me) "Drop your cocks and grab your socks." He just couldn't say the line in front of Carrie. I believe that this alternate version was suggested by Sgt. Apone (Al Matthews) who was a real Marine in Vietnam.
He has been in some decent movies. Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, The Rock, Tombstone and Navy Seals. Navy Seals is a fun movie as far as I recall, but definitely lower craftsmanship compared to the rest.
The joke "she thought they meant illegal aliens and signed up" was based on truth. The actress Jenette Goldstein (who is 100 percent Jewish and 0 percent Hispanic, by the way) showed up to the casting call dressed like a Mexican migrant farm worker because she thought that's what the movie "Aliens" was going to be about. The casting director thought that was so funny that he offered her the part on the condition she play the role in the Mexican immigrant character. At one of my former jobs, my favorite partner to work with was a short Mexican girl, and she reminded me so much of Vasquez because she was so tough and dedicated to the work, just like I was. I used to send her gifs and memes of Goldstein as Vasquez, as well as Drake and Vasquez together and say, "Look, there we are! Remember those days?" I miss her...
Number of Aliens? The human settlement's population is listed as 150, but 1 kid survived. So roughly 149, plus a Queen! And yes, I thouroughly enjoyed your reactions and comments. Burke is the robot in this one -- Nice!
I actually asked Michael Biehn (hicks) at a comic convention, if he actually did the stunt jumping through the window. Yeah that was him, he said he was up for it but you couldn't see too clearly so he understood if people didn't believe it was actually him. Nice guy too.
I've seen a lot of reactions to this movie and often people misunderstand Apone when he retorts with "I don't know is there anything you can do?" It's not to put her down, he welcomes her help but he doesn't know what she is capable of, unlike his personnel which he would know the capabilities of inside and out.
This and "Terminator 2" are two of the best sequels of all time. I prefer the director's cut for the same reason you mentioned: that it informs and presages her connection with Newt.
@@donpietruk1517 I was neutral on that. But I didn't think the extra colonist footage enhanced the story. Anyone who saw the first movie would have a good idea of the colonist's fate from the version I saw in the theater.
There's a scene which was written but wasn't filmed... Bishop is outside setting up the communications link and one of the Aliens comes up behind him.. He turns around and freezes.. The Alien looks him up and down, puzzled, and then walks away... Bishop, although still shaken, relaxes a little and says, "Not human enough." --- The Aliens don't take an interest in Bishop because he can't be a host for the embryo's.. To them, he is just another piece of technology.. A machine..
LT. Gorman in this movie is a recently graduated 2nd Lieutenant that has not really been in the thick of combat yet so he don’t know how to handle such engagements.
My favorite bit of trivia is that Lance Henriksen practiced with a knife for months before filming and Bill Paxton didn't know that. Having his hand there with the other over top of it wasn't in the script and he didn't know it was going to happen. So everything about that scene was real. That was a real knife, he really did it that fast, and that was a real reaction of panic and terror.
I'm envious. As a 16 year old, I was smitten by Bisop. I've watched a lot of really bad movies just because Henriksen was in them. I've never gotten to meet him though. Good to hear that he is a nice person! I know Paxton was a good guy, as several former co-workers were on set while they were filming Tombstone in Tucson. They had only praise for him.
@@sharpeslass5452- If you're a Trek fan then hold on to your hat...I got to know Grace Lee Whitney, just a tad, and she is (death is an illusion) undoubtedly the most sincerely positive persons I have ever met. Also Michael Ironside (dude can be scary in real life but he's just acting). Perhaps you can visit L.A. - if so let me be your tour guide. I charge a triple espresso for the day.
@@dennismason3740 I used to go to cons, back in the day (before Creation swallowed its CONpetition), when one could actually hang out in hotel bars and have drinks with the actors (if you were one of the few trekkies who was a drinker). It was a very good time. Young Me even got to make out with a recurring guest star. (Different times, for sure.) Ms. Whitney was a lovely, kind lady, if a bit too Christian for my personal tastes. I've pretty much met everyone I wanted to meet when it comes to Trek, but if you have any connections in The Expanse community, an espresso sounds a very fair price!
Burke is one of my favourite characters in the film, the guy you just love to hate. The shots with him shutting the cameras off and closing the door on his fellow humans are spot on as is the dialogue between him and the rest of the cast, so many good one-liners. Great role, well played, glad you were eaten.
Oh no. Burke wasn’t eaten. Apparently the deeper in universe story, from the novelization, was that Burke was cocooned in front of a facehugger egg, and impregnated with the parasite! Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy!
@@richlisola1 there’s a deleted scene where Ripley finds him before she finds Newt’s locator, he asks her to kill him… she gives him a grenade. Note the explosion behind Ripley just before she comes across the locator. Without that deleted scene, you think the explosion is just from the facility combusting.
OK, here we go with the weird connections. The year after this movie came out, Janette Goldstein (Vasquez), Lance Henriksen (Bishop) and Hudson (Bill Paxton) were in a film called Near Dark. Henriksen and Paxton, of course, were both in The Terminator, and Goldstein plays John Conner's foster mom in Terminator 2. And here comes the deep cut - Robert Winley appears as a biker in Near Dark, credited as "Patron in bar", and is "Cigar biker" in Terminator 2.
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One of the best reactions to this movie I've seen. You kept in so many great lines that other reactors completely overlook. You also pay attention to the plot and what people are saying. This video was great and I'm glad you liked the movie!
She didn’t like the movie. What reaction did you watch. She clearly started laughing at it because she thought it was stupid. Worst video reaction ever.
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Hey.. so I watched your reactions to both Terminator 1 & 2, and enjoyed them so much I had to watch your reaction to Aliens...😊 Great job on all 👍 I really like how you do a recap after you edit.. Brilliant 👏 and even add some FYI facts, a couple not even I knew & I've seen all 3 many times..😅 Someone beat me to this additional info, but I still think it's crazy that Vasquez from Aliens is John Connor's foster mom😮 Another interesting bit is Lance Henriksen (aka: Bishop) has met a bad fate against the Alien, The Terminator & The Predator (Alien vs Predator).. all 3 😮 Also, Bill Paxton (Hudson) didn't fare so well in Terminator either..😅 I know you said people suggested stopping at T2... but I think T3 has some cool & fun scenes you might like..😁... & then, yea.. maybe you might stop..🤔
If and when you move on to Alien 3, I highly recommend the longer special edition/assembly cut version (145 minutes to the theatrical version's 115 minutes). It's much closer to what director David Fincher originally intended before significant studio interference. My two cents. Have fun with the rest of the franchise!
@@miller-joel you're just conflating his feelings about the assembly cut versus the movie in either form. and it's a shame that he's not proud of it, because i think it's the best film he's made following zodiac. the assembly cut is certainly the better version, in any case. i would just brace yourself (@whimsory) for its heavy tone of despair and a more spiritual angle. it's a great movie -- just don't expect another aliens.
@@zenoslime I'm not "conflating" anything. Fincher has said he had nothing to do with the Assembly cut, has never seen it. He was offered to work on it and declined. No cut of the movie is going to change the two major flaws in it, so they are all pointless. It would have be to burned to the ground, re-written, produced and shot from scratch. Making different edits is like rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.
@@miller-joel ok, my mistake then, but i would still say that's a poor representation of the assembly cut. all i mean to say is it's ok to like a film even a director rejects.
@@zenoslime There's no accounting for taste. You can like anything you want. But you can't tell me it's "good." It breaks continuity, it kills the only characters people care about, it makes the previous 2 movies pointless, it expects you to give a damn about murderers and rapists, etc. It's just not good, no matter how you edit it.
Very cool observation that “Burke was the android of this movie.” You’re totally right! Ash > Burke (Psychopath betrayer) Lambert > Hudson (Hysterical, loses their shit in a crisis) Dallas > Hicks (Steady, dependable, looks out for his people) Parker > Apone (Wise cracking black guy who delivers one-liners)
Sigourney Weaver was excellent in the first movie and she's even better in his one. The character dynamics aren't overly complicated, but they're powerful and compelling. Everyone's character adds just the right amount to the mix, with Ripley's interactions with Newt being particularly well done. James Cameron used a lot of the same themes again in "Terminator 2"... including having a kicka$$ female lead, lots of guns and explosions, being hunted by seemingly unstoppable foes, motherhood, artificial humanoids, and those same artificial humanoids acting in ways which redeemed them as being more human than they'd been previously depicted. Overall, "Aliens" is one of the finest action/horror/sci-fi movies ever.
38:02 My favorite moment in this movie. It brings the story of Ripley losing her 10-year-old daughter full circle as she finds redemption and hope in Newt.
One of the best movies, and greatest sequels of all time. Cameron based the entire story on the Vietnam War, where a low tech army smashed a high tech army, and the story was laced with PTSD through Ripley's character. Ripley's reasoning for returning to LV-426, is the same as Vietnam Vets, who hated every minute of being in the war, but would sign up for a 2nd, 3rd and sometimes even a 4th tour of duty, regardless of how terrible it was.
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Good job Whimz you've taken a big step into the realm of movie sequels equal to or better than the originals. Many sequels try. Many fail. The ones that succeed...those are the ones we cherish
37:00 The fight with the power loader is set up waaaaay back in the beginning, at the inquest, where the company revokes Ripley's license, which forces her to find low-level work at the docks, where she learns to operate the power loader. Which she would never need to know as a flight officer. Unlike other movies where the "hero" automatically knows how to do everything.
Well, Ripley automatically knows how to do a lot in this film, and everything else, she instantly learns despite being 57 years behind in experience. She masters marine weaponry in minutes and even understands that firing bullets would blow up the fusion reactor even though that would be Burke's realm of knowledge. I think she's far too powerful, all-knowing, and invincible in this movie.
@@bonchbonch Hicks teaches her how to fire the weapons. Imagine that, a man teaching something to a woman. The horror! You don't need 57 years to learn how to fire and reload a pulse rifle. She ASKS what the pulse rifles fire, she doesn't KNOW. She's obviously way smarter than Burke, and that's no high bar.
@@miller-joel She masters a marine pulse rifle in 15 minutes when it took the marines probably weeks of weapons training. She's just a space trucker. Hell, she takes on an entire hive alone when a squad of trained marines couldn't survive. She even holds off a facehugger, something nobody else has done in the entire series--even Kane couldn't keep one off his face despite wearing a helmet! I think she's too powerful and invincible in this film and that she was more believable in the first one.
@@bonchbonch She doesn't "master" it. She learns how to fire it. Basically, how to pull the trigger. That doesn't take weeks. No, she's not a space trucker. She's a flight officer. The socio-economic stratification was clear in the original, and here. You have the workers, Brett and Parker, and the officers, Dallas and Ripley. In Aliens, the Marines even mock her as Snow White. Hicks and Apone are blown away that she knows how to operate the power loader. Kane didn't see the facehugger coming, so there was nothing to hold off. The helmet had nothing to do with it. Ripley knows what a facehugger is, and she's actively trying to avoid it. She's not omniscient or invincible, she's resourceful and highly motivated. You need better arguments.
To all Whimsory fans: PLEASE don't spoil movies for her. I see a lot of this in the comments of reactors. "Oh, you gotta watch the second movie. That's where the wife becomes the villain!" NO! Don't do that. And don't oversell something. Just say, "If you liked the first one, i think you'll enjoy the next one." With all the people saying, something is amazing, it's going to be a letdown no matter what. Then she will feel pressured to react according to your expectations.
@@richardb6260 -- Well, i meant about movies in general, not just about Aliens. But i get your point. That said, there were THREE Alien movies. That's it. It ended in 1992. If anyone tells you there was a 4th film or prequels, they are pranking you. But there definitely was a 3rd one.
I remember seeing this in the theater and being blown away. Edge of my seat the whole time. Then the next year I saw Predator in the theater and was equally blown away. You must see Predator!!!
This is one of my all time favorites. Fun fact, Vasquez was also John Connors foster mom in Terminator 2, and the spider creatures are called Face huggers. I'm so happy you did this one soon after the original. I look forward to your new reactions, keep at it, you always make me smile. :)
Came to mention this, but figured someone already had. That kind of brown-face doesn’t really fly today, but that’s the ‘80s for you… Also, I hadn’t seen anyone mention yet that as well as Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton was also in Terminator, with a blue mohawk.
Additional Fun facts: The actor who plays the Colony Mayor, was also Captain Hollister in British Sci-Fi comedy Red Dwarf and also had a small role on the movie The Fifth Element
@@ryanclark6402 toofab: Now that there's all this talk about diversity in film - do you think you would be cast as Vasquez today? Jenette: Hmm. No. I mean, people with Jewish last names are Latino, like my son is Pablo. Pablo Goldstein. He's Mexican-Jewish. So you don't want to stereotype what Hollywood thinks is Latino. But there should be, obviously, roles available in a wide range of ethnicities, I think. You know, at the time, they were looking for an actress who was big and muscular, and they were wanting to cast a bodybuilder because they didn't think there were any actresses who had, you know, a physique that they wanted. And so that was a big part of what they were looking for, and they were kind of shocked that there was a trained actress who actually had the physique. You know what? I tell you the truth: I have never been cast, or given the opportunity to audition for a short, freckle-faced Jewish girl who is half-Russian and half-Moroccan and Brazilian. So, I don't think I would work very much if that's all I was able to read for.
@@jauntx You might be missing my point a little, so I’l clarify. I have no gripes with the actress or her portrayal of the part. She nailed it. Bang on, exactly the physique and attitude they were apparently looking for. She rules every scene she’s in. My issue was that once they found the perfect actress, they didn’t adjust the role at all to more accurately reflect their casting decisions. If you think the short Jewish girl with freckles (who also happens to be ripped and rugged) is exactly what the film needs for the role of “Vasquez”, you find yourself with two options: make the actress look like the role, or change the role to better suit the actress. Given the actress’s performance, I see no reason she couldn’t have been equally badass portraying “Goldberg” or “Rubenstein” or, heck, even “Smith/Jones” without all the makeup needed to make her “Vasquez.” Change what’s on the page, not what’s on the camera. For another, better iteration of how this could have happened, see Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis in the casting of ST:TNG.
@@ryanclark6402 I just wanted to share with you something I found with her take about the subject. You're right about it being a different time back then.
Jenette Goldstein playing Vasquez, doing the pull ups, is John Connors foster mom in Terminator II, Michael Biehn playing Hicks, is Reese from the Terminator, Bill Paxton, playing Hudson, was the first one killed in The Terminator.
I always thought Ripley was silly for wasting her ammunition on the eggs. The place was going to be nuked anyway and she would have had it to fend off the queen when she was leaving. Great reaction.
In the late 90s I got to go behind the scenes of the now sadly closed ‘Alien War’ attraction at Londons Trocadero Centre. They had a load of amazing props; including Dietrich’s armour, several smart guns & flamethrowers from the production. Also there were two art deco dog sculptures, which had featured in a deleted scene in Alien 3. Fun facts: When they went to Acton Power station in West London to film Tim Burtons Batman, the sets of the Alien hive were still there. For a long time, the Alien Queen was the single largest puppet ever created for a film. There’s also a deleted scene which shows what happened to Burke. Carrie Henn (Newt) is now a school teacher, but is still very much involved with Aliens. During the filming of the escape through the air ducts, Carrie Henn repeatedly messed up her lines, so that she could slide down the chute. Also, when they were filming the sequence of her in the water, she spend a lot of time just hanging out with the performer who was playing the Alien. According to Henn they just say their dangling their feet into the water & chatting; I just picture Newt & her Xenomorph friend hanging out 😂 Al Matthews (Sgt Apone) was Vietnam Veteran & used his past experience to help with the training of the rest of cast during pre-production. Please, please ignore those who say otherwise & make sure you round off the trilogy by watching the Assembly Cut of Alien 3. Alien 3 was David Fincher (Seven, Social Network etc) directorial debut & is what I consider to be a failed masterpiece. It has been disowned by its director & was the product of too much interference by the studio. Even to this day, is remains a film that splits opinion amongst fans of the series. Visually, it’s absolutely stunning & although the script isn’t perfect, it does serve a purpose in Ripley’s story arc. The Assemby Cut fixes multiple issues from the theatrical cut & also reintroduces several scenes. It is now my preferred version of the film; & without giving anything away, I do prefer part of the theatrical cuts ending. It was also the last film that the legendary Jordan Cronenweth (Blade Runner) would serve; albeit briefly as Director Of Photography on. Cronenweth left the production just after filming began due to his deteriorating health relating to Parkinson’s Disease.
I am soooooo happy you went with the extended cut. It adds so much to the story and the characters. Once I discovered it I never watched the theatrical cut again. It actually feels like an entirely different movie. Also, I very highly recommend reading the novels
I completely disagree. Everything in the extended version is unnecessary and overstated. Most of all, you lose the element of surprise about what has happened to the settlement.
@@disembodiedspiritsno I completely disagree. The extended version let’s the audience know Ripley lost a daughter when she got back so it makes her connection to Newt more emotional. The theatrical version cut that
Also recommend Cameron's extended cuts for The Abyss and Terminator 2 (which Whimsory has already covered, God bless her). You can't go wrong with more Cameron character development.
Your facial expressions during the tense moments and the gross moments were amazing and hilarious. You're definitely one of my favorite reactors. Can't wait to see your reactions to many more older flicks!
Bill Paxton is the 1st of 2 actors who shares the distinct honour of being killed by a Terminator, an Alien and a Predator! Lance Henriksen being the 2nd. Btw, Predator!
I know it gets a lot of bad press. But I do recommend watching the extended version of Alien 3. I believe it's for rent. Stay far away from the theatrical cut, the story is a mess in that version. Ignore the naysayers and make your own decision. But I do recommend extended version. Very happy you got to see the extended version of aliens!
My favourite movie reaction channel now with a nice amount of analysis. Great to see someone reacting with openness to good movies and letting the audience revisit them. Thank you.
I believe this movie was my first ever R-rated film i saw, back when i was like 6 or 7 It holds a special place as a good film for me, and has aged like fine wine
Another sugestion is The Dead Zone(1983). Imho it;s easily the best adaptation of a Stephen King novel to the big screen. Tom Skerritt From Alien has a fair size role in it. Don't want to give any spoilers but there's such an uncanny resemblance of one of the main characters to a certain well known individual. There was also a series created from it that went for 6 seasons.
While *_Alien_* is a cosmic horror film, *_Aliens_* is a sci-fi action film, and they're both _amazing_ examples of both. Personally, I'm a very big fan of Ridley Scott's continuation with *_Prometheus_* & *_Alien Covenant_* a lot because they maintain his same cosmic horror element from his first film, whereas *_Alien³_* & *_Alien: Resurrection_* are more of the sci-fi action in their tone. Hopefully you have a good time with whichever of the ones you decide to check out after this!!
I'd disagree with describing Alien as COSMIC horror. Horror, to be sure, but more body horror. At the end of the day, it's just a beast that wants to eat/impregnate you. Nothing cosmic about it.
I'd add about Alien Resurrection, if you like Firefly, Joss Whedon did some of the writing on it and I feel like the crew of the Betty was a darker edgier first draft of the Firefly crew.
@@YourXavier You're right, Alien is far more body horror than cosmic horror - but it's not entirely fair to say there are no elements of cosmic horror in it. It plays on the fear of the unknown/unknowable both in its themes and cinematography by barely showing the xenomorph, and what we do see of the xenomorph is both familiar and unfamiliar in uncomfortable ways. The 'gore' in the movie is less of the blood, guts, and bone variety (though, there is some of that) and more the unfamiliar, slimy, goopy substances (the white fluid 'blood' of the androids, the green acid blood of the xenomorph, the slimy textures of the egg room and the eggs themselves as they open. Lastly, the combination of horror and sci-fi elements and the way that the 'technologically advanced' humans are placed in a position of helplessness in the face of an unknown, amoral, and unrelenting entity. Those are all hallmarks of cosmic horror. That said, it certainly doesn't have the most genre-defining elements of cosmic horror: There's no sense of the xenomorph or the setting being 'beyond human comprehension' , the audience isn't confronted with their own insignificance in the grand scheme of things at any point in the movie, there's no sense of human preconceptions of the nature of reality being challenged or incorrect (i.e. nothing in the movie obviously defies what we know of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.), there's no supernatural elements woven into the themes or story, and the settings have a more 'industrial' rather than 'gothic' tone to them.
Now check this out, the lady who plays Vasquez is the same lady who played John Conners foster mom in Terminator 2. She is also on Titanic. I've seen all three of these movies tons of times and did not make this realization til a couple years ago.
Hicks had read the report and took it to heart, unlike the others who didn't take it seriously. He was sizing up Ripley early on to see if she was for real, and once her story was confirmed, he was impressed that she had survived her first encounter with the aliens and started accepting her advice without question. At least, that's how I interpret it.
In case you're wondering, the aliens are called "Xenomorphs" and when the little face huggers impregnate you, the chest-burster guy is part human DNA and part Xenomorph DNA. So if it goes in a kitty cat for example, the alien would bust out and be some crazy catlike alien thing.
Technically speaking, the word Xenomorph, just means "Strange Form" and is a catchall term for a whole range of unknown alien life forms, it's just that in this case, the term has stuck to refer to this particular gribbly nightmare thing.
Saw this screened in the royal Albert hall with a live orchestra performing the score - and then James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver came out at the end to take a bow 😮
I'm 53 years old. Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, and Princess Leia were the women action heroes I grew up with. Trinity as well. I think they have a different style than the ones today.
I'd add Clarice Starling to that list
Yeah. Now they're just inexplicably powerful out of the blue, and spend all their time ridiculing and making fools of all the men around them. It seems like it was DESIGNED to make men hate women and make women hate themselves.
Laurie Strode?
Don't forget Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman.
OMG, this masterpiece was released in 1986! It's 37 years ago and still looks way more better than a lot of modern movies!
Indeed. Abyss was also a pretty good one by Cameron back then, similar to Leviathan and Deep Star Six.
Please don't remind me about how old I am.
@@mrfantastic407 you are 153 Mercury-years old.
It's because practical effect ^^
One year after I was born.
Although my movie journey started with stuff like In A Land Before Time, Young Einstein, Ghostbusters and Star Wars. 😅
April 2015, I was at Calgary Comic Expo, the main guests were the entire cast of Aliens.
On the last day, at the closing announcement, they had Bill Paxton do his "game over" speech to close the show instead.
The whole show stopped as soon as we all realized it was not the normal announcer - thousands of people all at once broke out laughing.
Rest in peace Bill, you are missed.
Bill Paxton - Killed by a Terminator, a Predator, and an Alien. As Bishop said: "Not bad for a human."
one of the greats
Yes. We watched Edge Of Tomorrow in the theater and for the life of me I couldn't figure out who was playing the Master Sergeant. Boy did I feel stupid when I finally realized it was Paxton. I can't think of any role he did that wasn't great.
I love that they referenced his "Game over" speech in the first Halo game.
Also, did you know Alien was referenced by Arthur C. Clarke in 2010? As the Soviet and American engineers first board the derelict USS Discovery the ship is cold, dark, and very creepy. One says to the other, "Just watch out for the cat."
The other responds with, "Who the hell thought it was a good idea to put that movie on a real spaceship."
@@stortebeker6464 He was the Sean Bean of the 1980s.
The illusion of so many aliens was created with only five costumes. The way it was filmed was genius.
Speaking of costumes, I always found it interesting that the only evolution in men's clothing style in the future is that they turned up their suit collars.
In the first film, three Jones' were used iirc? One for holding, one for hissing and one for running away. Four were used for Jones in this, dunno what the fourth aspect would be though tbf.
@@JimBrodie Knocking things over.
Hudson's character is so quotable most likely due to Bill Paxton's performance. RIP Paxton
Bill survived the Twisters but he was the only actor killed by Aliens, a Predator, and a Terminator.
Reminds me I meant to pick up a game over man shirt.
Heard from Micheal Biehn in a recent interview that Hudson without the cowardice was basically Bill Paxton
I always try to watch the special edition for Hudson's boasting speech (which makes his arc of cowardice to heroic last stand so much better). "We got knives! Sharp sticks!" RIP indeed.
Game over, man.
Thanks! Best movie ever! Thank you for watching the extended version
Thank you so much!☺️
The Buff female marine was also John Connors step mom in Terminator 2.
I have to admit, at 40 years old I love watching your generation experience this movie for the first time. Its one of my favorites and I saw it when I was 10.
Same age, and yeah, I really like how she does extra work to get the greater context of these films! Gives me a lot of hope for some reason.
Ripley's "Get away from her you BITCH!" is one of the most badass lines in moviedom.
Carrie Henn (Newt), did a really great job in the movie, but decided acting wasn't for her. She left Hollywood and became a teacher.
Paul Reiser (Burke) took his mother to the premiere. His character was such a scumbag that his mother stood and cheered when he died.
Also officially passes the Bechdel test…
I read his sister slapt him too at the premiere for playing such a douche
@@xgrahamsmith So does Showgirls.
You can tell by the look he gives Ripley when they first get on the drop ship that Hicks is the only one that actually read her report. His actions toward her and respect from then on makes sense.
If you think the actor playing the Srgt is pretty good at being in charge, that's because he's the real deal. He was a former Srgt in Vietnam so yeah he knows how to act on charge. Behind the scenes he helped the cast with acting more like an authentic unit working together.
As an NCO myself, I patterned my leadership style after that fine NCO. Also, Gunny Highway. Just some no bullshit dudes who wanted to Charlie Mike (Continue the Mission).
Yeah, you guys are right.Al Matthews who played Sergeant Apone, was a real life Marine Corps Sergeant, who served with the 1st Marine Division in Vietnam.He also played the African American GI In YANKS who gets into a fight with a racist White GI because he was dancing with a white girl at the New Year’s Eve event in England during World War Two.Sergeant Matthews died in 2018 aged 75.RIP SERGEANT MATTHEWS 🙏
Well, thanks for the clue leading to this information, I had no idea :
"Al Matthews became the first black Marine to be meritoriously promoted to the rank of Sergeant (E-5). Williams was also the first "black voice" on England's national station, 'Radio 1."
May he rest in peace.
A funny little detail about Michael Biehn is that he's actually using the same model of shotgun in both Terminator and in this film, the Ithaca 37. This is likely a small nod to the prior role, especially given the prominence of the weapon in both films, but a really cool detail is that when Michael Biehn played a character in The Mandalorian (I won't spoil anything about that), his character uses a scatter blaster (energy shotgun) that looks an awful lot like a Star Wars-ified Ithaca 37. It's a little prop detail but I rather like it.
Congratulations! This is the first reaction video where someone noticed that Michael Biehn was in Terminator.
Being directed by James Cameron, there’s a lot of casting connections between Terminator and Aliens.
You have
Michael Biehn as Reese in Terminator/Hicks in Aliens
Lance Henriksen as Detective Hal Vukovich in Terminator/Bishop in Aliens,
Bill Paxton as one of the street punks in Terminator/Hudson in Aliens
Jenette Goldstein as Vasquez in Aliens/Janelle Voight (John’s Foster Mother in Terminator 2)
Bill Paxton is also the only actor to be killed by a Terminator, Alien and Predator.
Newt's "Mommy!" broke a lot of folk. That wasn't me crying, it was my droid twin.
Busted! Droids don't cry.
The 'Mommy' line always bugged me because Newt had only known Ripley for about 8 hours or so. And even though it was a rough 8 hours it would've been nothing compared to the fight she witnessed when the colony was attacked where she lost everyone she had ever known.
You have a droid twin too?!?!
@@jukesfood5601 It's a freaking movie. Human emotional experiences are always compressed in time because the film only has a couple hours to tell the tale. That's why in romantic comedies, the couple are hopelessly in love after two hours.
@@DMichaelAtLarge The length of the film had zero to do with what I was talking about. Newt had to go through weeks of hell as the colony outpost was attacked and where everyone she'd ever known was being killed. I highly doubt in the few hours she knew Ripley she'd be calling her "mommy".
This is my favorite James Cameron movie. Absolute masterpiece. Stan Winston was the visual effects artist and he was a genius.
30 years after I watched this movie it was pointed out to me that the woman in the chestburster scene managed to not get captured by the aliens until a day before the marines turned up. If she had just managed to stay hidden for one day longer she may well have survived.
Really sad if you think about it.
She should have spent more time playing in the air ducts.
Aha! I was wondering who was feeding the hamsters!
Everybody has a purpose in life. Some people's purpose is to serve as an example to others. She served the purpose assigned to her by God (James Cameron) to remind the audience of the stakes involved after 7 years passed IRL between movies. Don't need to grieve a movie character that served her purpose
@@kegr1066 She was also serving the purpose of showing the overconfident Marines what the hell they were getting into.
And did Newt and her know about each other and were surviving together. Has Newt just had to start to change her survival strategy as a result. Reevaluating whole film now.
Hudson is easily one of my favorite characters in this film. His lines are memorable! "What do you mean they cut the power? They're animals!"
We’re all on an express elevator to HELL!
GOING DOWN!!!
"Vasquez thought they meant illegal alien and signed up." Won't repeat her answer.
"Put her in charge"
Bill Paxton was also briefly in "The Terminator," as the spiky haired member of the trio that the terminator demanded clothes from. Lance Hendrickson(Bishop), was a plainclothes police officer in that movie.
Bill Paxton was briefly in a ton of awesome movies. Was sorta his thing. :D
Bishop was also in Terminator as a cop, can’t remember his real name
@@carn9507 He has also done well as a central character in movies like "Twister" and "Travellers."
"We're not leaving!"
"We're not?"
I just love Bishop's reaction.
Hicks isn't the only one that was also in the first Terminator movie. Bishop was the cop in the Police Station who was trying to call Sarah Connor. The cool thing is that Bishop and Hicks both died in Terminator but they both got to live in this movie even though Bishop got ripped in half. I do love how Newt and Ripley bonded throughout this movie. I really loved it when Newt called Ripley "Mommy" at the end.
It's so funny how you flick your hand at things you want to go away. (It's very cute.) Reminds me of an adorable movie starring Peter Sellers, called "Being There." It was about a man who was very simple and not that familiar with the world at large. He has to venture out from a longstanding job, which had him essentially cloistered from the world, when his employer dies. In his encounters with people, his simplicity is mastaken for profundity, which results in him becoming a resource for powerful world leaders. Back to your hand-flicking, in one scene, when confronted by muggers, he tries to make them disappear with a TV remote. :)
"I see she found some underwear that wasn't a children's size 10...nice!"
That one smashed my funny bone with a hammer! LOL 😜😂
I was so happy to hear someone else say that. It annoyed me the first time I saw Alien, and I've never seen anyone else comment about it.
@@BubblyRainbows I've seen a lot of people comment about it, but for uh... prurient reasons.
@@BubblyRainbows
Weaver herself wanted to go fully naked, the director toned it down.
There are entire movies and tv series written today to represent empowering women and none of those hours and hours of film can match the power of Vasquez saying "Let's Rock" and letting loose with her smart gun for a 3 second scene. Absolute badass.
Make sure to watch the Assembly Cut (the Special Edition) of Alien³
Whenever I'm struggling, stressing or having anxiety I can always relax and chill to your videos
The entire cast is amazing, but I'd like to give particular respect to Paul Reiser. At this point in his career, Paul was known for being a stand-up comedian and for comedic roles, with only a handful of acting credits under his belt. He's so good in this movie, shifting effortlessly to a serious role where you're not quite sure what he's capable of. At first you think he's just a company man, trying to protect Weyland-Yutani's interests, until.... And Paul pulls it off brilliantly. Kudos to the casting crew for getting him and believing he could play the part.
"Is there anything you can do?" - don't judge Apone for asking that question, don't forget she spent the last almost 60 years asleep. It would be a very relevant question nowadays or any other time.
The laughter afterwards was genuine and good-natured, not derogatory or mocking.
Shortly after the film's world premiere, actor Paul Reiser -- who played Carter Burke -- was on Letterman and he told the story of how he took his mother as his guest to the world premiere. They got to the scene where Burke gets it from an alien, and his own mom stood up and cheered.
“I can drive a forklift I’m certified” 😅
Also, Bill Paxton was such a gentleman that he felt bad whenever the script required him to swear around Newt (Carrie Henn). After every scene that he where he swore around Newt he apologized to her. EVERY scene.
That's why his line was "Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen" instead of the classic line (forgive me) "Drop your cocks and grab your socks." He just couldn't say the line in front of Carrie. I believe that this alternate version was suggested by Sgt. Apone (Al Matthews) who was a real Marine in Vietnam.
"I don't know which species is worst, you don't see them screwing each other over for a buck"
Classic movie, thank you for the upload :)
michael biehn is a very underrated actor; I’ve only seen him in 3 films but each performance was excellent 😊
The fact that he didn't become a major star is an absolute crime
Concur
He has been in some decent movies. Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, The Rock, Tombstone and Navy Seals.
Navy Seals is a fun movie as far as I recall, but definitely lower craftsmanship compared to the rest.
He should have been in many more films, though
@@fastertove The Seventh Sign with Demi Moore.
Love your channel and reactions. I like how your sweater looks like the screen for the soldiers life signs/vitals during the first battle.
"Newt" never did any acting again, through choice, and she is a School teacher now. Great reaction
I adore you Whimsory! You're my favourite channel now
This is like the only channel in my subs that posted real content today instead of April fools nonsense. Thanks for the actual content!
Whimsory, you crack me up with your reaction to this movie. Thank you for sharing your reaction.
The joke "she thought they meant illegal aliens and signed up" was based on truth. The actress Jenette Goldstein (who is 100 percent Jewish and 0 percent Hispanic, by the way) showed up to the casting call dressed like a Mexican migrant farm worker because she thought that's what the movie "Aliens" was going to be about. The casting director thought that was so funny that he offered her the part on the condition she play the role in the Mexican immigrant character.
At one of my former jobs, my favorite partner to work with was a short Mexican girl, and she reminded me so much of Vasquez because she was so tough and dedicated to the work, just like I was. I used to send her gifs and memes of Goldstein as Vasquez, as well as Drake and Vasquez together and say, "Look, there we are! Remember those days?" I miss her...
She also plays John Connor's stepmom in Terminator 2
Number of Aliens? The human settlement's population is listed as 150, but 1 kid survived. So roughly 149, plus a Queen!
And yes, I thouroughly enjoyed your reactions and comments. Burke is the robot in this one -- Nice!
I actually asked Michael Biehn (hicks) at a comic convention, if he actually did the stunt jumping through the window. Yeah that was him, he said he was up for it but you couldn't see too clearly so he understood if people didn't believe it was actually him. Nice guy too.
I've seen a lot of reactions to this movie and often people misunderstand Apone when he retorts with "I don't know is there anything you can do?" It's not to put her down, he welcomes her help but he doesn't know what she is capable of, unlike his personnel which he would know the capabilities of inside and out.
This and "Terminator 2" are two of the best sequels of all time. I prefer the director's cut for the same reason you mentioned: that it informs and presages her connection with Newt.
Debbie Does Dallas Again was pretty good too
I didn't like that it removed the mystery of what happened to the colonists. I think that added an element of intrigue.
@@donpietruk1517 I was neutral on that. But I didn't think the extra colonist footage enhanced the story. Anyone who saw the first movie would have a good idea of the colonist's fate from the version I saw in the theater.
I'd throw Shrek 2 in as an example of a perfect sequel as well
I'd add Top Gun: Maverick as well.
There's a scene which was written but wasn't filmed... Bishop is outside setting up the communications link and one of the Aliens comes up behind him.. He turns around and freezes.. The Alien looks him up and down, puzzled, and then walks away... Bishop, although still shaken, relaxes a little and says, "Not human enough." --- The Aliens don't take an interest in Bishop because he can't be a host for the embryo's.. To them, he is just another piece of technology.. A machine..
4:13 interesting fact, the picture of Ripley's "daughter" is in fact Sigourney Weavers mother
LT. Gorman in this movie is a recently graduated 2nd Lieutenant that has not really been in the thick of combat yet so he don’t know how to handle such engagements.
My favorite bit of trivia is that Lance Henriksen practiced with a knife for months before filming and Bill Paxton didn't know that. Having his hand there with the other over top of it wasn't in the script and he didn't know it was going to happen. So everything about that scene was real. That was a real knife, he really did it that fast, and that was a real reaction of panic and terror.
It's blatantly sped up
At 7:47, "Don't 'shh' her, weirdo!" LMFAO... priceless!
The actress playing Vasquez was also John Connor's step mom in Terminator 2.
Dammit, how did I never notice that?!
Great reaction, you have such a wonderful personality, "tickle my pickle" almost made me spit my coffee 😆
I got to know Lance Henrikson a bit in the eighties - one of the most respectful beings I have ever met. Hey, Lance!
I'm envious. As a 16 year old, I was smitten by Bisop. I've watched a lot of really bad movies just because Henriksen was in them. I've never gotten to meet him though. Good to hear that he is a nice person! I know Paxton was a good guy, as several former co-workers were on set while they were filming Tombstone in Tucson. They had only praise for him.
@@sharpeslass5452- If you're a Trek fan then hold on to your hat...I got to know Grace Lee Whitney, just a tad, and she is (death is an illusion) undoubtedly the most sincerely positive persons I have ever met. Also Michael Ironside (dude can be scary in real life but he's just acting). Perhaps you can visit L.A. - if so let me be your tour guide. I charge a triple espresso for the day.
@@dennismason3740 I used to go to cons, back in the day (before Creation swallowed its CONpetition), when one could actually hang out in hotel bars and have drinks with the actors (if you were one of the few trekkies who was a drinker). It was a very good time. Young Me even got to make out with a recurring guest star. (Different times, for sure.) Ms. Whitney was a lovely, kind lady, if a bit too Christian for my personal tastes. I've pretty much met everyone I wanted to meet when it comes to Trek, but if you have any connections in The Expanse community, an espresso sounds a very fair price!
The fight between Rip and the queen is epic because of 2 mothers protecting their breed. There is nothing more savage in nature….
Burke is one of my favourite characters in the film, the guy you just love to hate. The shots with him shutting the cameras off and closing the door on his fellow humans are spot on as is the dialogue between him and the rest of the cast, so many good one-liners. Great role, well played, glad you were eaten.
Oh no. Burke wasn’t eaten. Apparently the deeper in universe story, from the novelization, was that Burke was cocooned in front of a facehugger egg, and impregnated with the parasite!
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy!
@@richlisola1 there’s a deleted scene where Ripley finds him before she finds Newt’s locator, he asks her to kill him… she gives him a grenade. Note the explosion behind Ripley just before she comes across the locator. Without that deleted scene, you think the explosion is just from the facility combusting.
OK, here we go with the weird connections. The year after this movie came out, Janette Goldstein (Vasquez), Lance Henriksen (Bishop) and Hudson (Bill Paxton) were in a film called Near Dark. Henriksen and Paxton, of course, were both in The Terminator, and Goldstein plays John Conner's foster mom in Terminator 2.
And here comes the deep cut - Robert Winley appears as a biker in Near Dark, credited as "Patron in bar", and is "Cigar biker" in Terminator 2.
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Bill Paxton's "Game over man, game over" is considered to be one of the most famous ad libs of all time.
One of the best reactions to this movie I've seen. You kept in so many great lines that other reactors completely overlook. You also pay attention to the plot and what people are saying.
This video was great and I'm glad you liked the movie!
Same! It’s such a disappointment when the others miss the legendary one liners.
She didn’t like the movie. What reaction did you watch. She clearly started laughing at it because she thought it was stupid. Worst video reaction ever.
Hi Whimsory!! I just came across your channel while searching for other people's reaction of the alien tracker beeping sound, and I can say that you have nice contents here. 😊 I really loved watching your reaction and you are so funny, but at the same time I enjoyed your post analysis of the film. Keep it up!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
She said twister is a favorite, and then I subbed right away. Hey there. This movie is amazing. We all miss you, Bill.
The entire Alien series are all fantastic movies . Enjoy the trip. You have a great channel . Just found you.
So good to see young people appreciate the movies I saw in the theater when I was your age. Great times, great movies!
I love how you bat at the movie like a cat when it gets too intense. 😄
Paul Riser, who played Burke, took his Mother to the premiere. She cheered when his character died. :-)
Hey.. so I watched your reactions to both Terminator 1 & 2, and enjoyed them so much I had to watch your reaction to Aliens...😊
Great job on all 👍
I really like how you do a recap after you edit.. Brilliant 👏 and even add some FYI facts, a couple not even I knew & I've seen all 3 many times..😅
Someone beat me to this additional info, but I still think it's crazy that Vasquez from Aliens is John Connor's foster mom😮
Another interesting bit is Lance Henriksen (aka: Bishop) has met a bad fate against the Alien, The Terminator & The Predator (Alien vs Predator).. all 3 😮
Also, Bill Paxton (Hudson) didn't fare so well in Terminator either..😅
I know you said people suggested stopping at T2... but I think T3 has some cool & fun scenes you might like..😁... & then, yea.. maybe you might stop..🤔
If and when you move on to Alien 3, I highly recommend the longer special edition/assembly cut version (145 minutes to the theatrical version's 115 minutes). It's much closer to what director David Fincher originally intended before significant studio interference. My two cents. Have fun with the rest of the franchise!
That's not what Fincher intended. Which is why he wanted nothing to do with it, and doesn't want to even talk about it.
@@miller-joel you're just conflating his feelings about the assembly cut versus the movie in either form. and it's a shame that he's not proud of it, because i think it's the best film he's made following zodiac. the assembly cut is certainly the better version, in any case.
i would just brace yourself (@whimsory) for its heavy tone of despair and a more spiritual angle. it's a great movie -- just don't expect another aliens.
@@zenoslime I'm not "conflating" anything. Fincher has said he had nothing to do with the Assembly cut, has never seen it. He was offered to work on it and declined. No cut of the movie is going to change the two major flaws in it, so they are all pointless.
It would have be to burned to the ground, re-written, produced and shot from scratch. Making different edits is like rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.
@@miller-joel ok, my mistake then, but i would still say that's a poor representation of the assembly cut. all i mean to say is it's ok to like a film even a director rejects.
@@zenoslime There's no accounting for taste. You can like anything you want. But you can't tell me it's "good." It breaks continuity, it kills the only characters people care about, it makes the previous 2 movies pointless, it expects you to give a damn about murderers and rapists, etc. It's just not good, no matter how you edit it.
Very cool observation that “Burke was the android of this movie.” You’re totally right!
Ash > Burke (Psychopath betrayer)
Lambert > Hudson (Hysterical, loses their shit in a crisis)
Dallas > Hicks (Steady, dependable, looks out for his people)
Parker > Apone (Wise cracking black guy who delivers one-liners)
Sigourney Weaver was excellent in the first movie and she's even better in his one. The character dynamics aren't overly complicated, but they're powerful and compelling. Everyone's character adds just the right amount to the mix, with Ripley's interactions with Newt being particularly well done.
James Cameron used a lot of the same themes again in "Terminator 2"... including having a kicka$$ female lead, lots of guns and explosions, being hunted by seemingly unstoppable foes, motherhood, artificial humanoids, and those same artificial humanoids acting in ways which redeemed them as being more human than they'd been previously depicted.
Overall, "Aliens" is one of the finest action/horror/sci-fi movies ever.
I love the level of detail you put into your analysis. Very cool. Plus I love your quirky cuteness. And your nose. It’s cute! 😍✌️😊
Fun fact: the woman who played Vasquez also played John Connor's foster mother in T2
38:02 My favorite moment in this movie. It brings the story of Ripley losing her 10-year-old daughter full circle as she finds redemption and hope in Newt.
One of the best movies, and greatest sequels of all time.
Cameron based the entire story on the Vietnam War, where a low tech army smashed a high tech army, and the story was laced with PTSD through Ripley's character.
Ripley's reasoning for returning to LV-426, is the same as Vietnam Vets, who hated every minute of being in the war, but would sign up for a 2nd, 3rd and sometimes even a 4th tour of duty, regardless of how terrible it was.
im sure you realize.....but if not.....your channel growth is rare for most and the fact of views you have on most your videos while basically being a brand new channel should tell you that, if you wanted, you absolutely could make a living off this and this alone.
Not sure if thats what you want or you have another job you enjoy more then this.
But I have no doubt.....because it is very obvious that if you keep consistent and let a bit of time pass the more who discover your channel will also sub.
Your personality is everything;....
Anyway...very few I watch and can say that they absolutely have a big future here if they choose too....but you have that for sure....not a bad gig, watching good movies and getting paid....(hopefully you enjoy editing etc....thats the real job innit?)
Good luck to you!
Good job Whimz you've taken a big step into the realm of movie sequels equal to or better than the originals. Many sequels try. Many fail. The ones that succeed...those are the ones we cherish
Do or do not. There is no Try 😁
This girl is so adorable I can't wait till she sees Robocop and Verhoeven's other films
37:00 The fight with the power loader is set up waaaaay back in the beginning, at the inquest, where the company revokes Ripley's license, which forces her to find low-level work at the docks, where she learns to operate the power loader. Which she would never need to know as a flight officer. Unlike other movies where the "hero" automatically knows how to do everything.
Checkov's power loader...
Well, Ripley automatically knows how to do a lot in this film, and everything else, she instantly learns despite being 57 years behind in experience. She masters marine weaponry in minutes and even understands that firing bullets would blow up the fusion reactor even though that would be Burke's realm of knowledge. I think she's far too powerful, all-knowing, and invincible in this movie.
@@bonchbonch Hicks teaches her how to fire the weapons. Imagine that, a man teaching something to a woman. The horror!
You don't need 57 years to learn how to fire and reload a pulse rifle.
She ASKS what the pulse rifles fire, she doesn't KNOW. She's obviously way smarter than Burke, and that's no high bar.
@@miller-joel She masters a marine pulse rifle in 15 minutes when it took the marines probably weeks of weapons training. She's just a space trucker. Hell, she takes on an entire hive alone when a squad of trained marines couldn't survive. She even holds off a facehugger, something nobody else has done in the entire series--even Kane couldn't keep one off his face despite wearing a helmet! I think she's too powerful and invincible in this film and that she was more believable in the first one.
@@bonchbonch She doesn't "master" it. She learns how to fire it. Basically, how to pull the trigger. That doesn't take weeks.
No, she's not a space trucker. She's a flight officer. The socio-economic stratification was clear in the original, and here. You have the workers, Brett and Parker, and the officers, Dallas and Ripley. In Aliens, the Marines even mock her as Snow White. Hicks and Apone are blown away that she knows how to operate the power loader.
Kane didn't see the facehugger coming, so there was nothing to hold off. The helmet had nothing to do with it. Ripley knows what a facehugger is, and she's actively trying to avoid it. She's not omniscient or invincible, she's resourceful and highly motivated. You need better arguments.
„They mostly come at night, …. mostly.“ one famous adlib by Carrie Henn!
To all Whimsory fans: PLEASE don't spoil movies for her. I see a lot of this in the comments of reactors. "Oh, you gotta watch the second movie. That's where the wife becomes the villain!" NO! Don't do that. And don't oversell something. Just say, "If you liked the first one, i think you'll enjoy the next one." With all the people saying, something is amazing, it's going to be a letdown no matter what. Then she will feel pressured to react according to your expectations.
i totaly second that....
Nothing to spoil. There are no more Alien movies after this. Anyone who says different is playing an April Fool's joke on you.
@@richardb6260 -- Well, i meant about movies in general, not just about Aliens. But i get your point. That said, there were THREE Alien movies. That's it. It ended in 1992. If anyone tells you there was a 4th film or prequels, they are pranking you. But there definitely was a 3rd one.
@@trekkiejunk I've heard the rumor about a third Alien movie and it sounds terrible. I'm glad it doesn't actually exist.
Saying that "3" kills Hicks and Newt off screen, in the opening credits, is not a "spoiler." It's a warning and a public service.
I remember seeing this in the theater and being blown away. Edge of my seat the whole time.
Then the next year I saw Predator in the theater and was equally blown away.
You must see Predator!!!
This is one of my all time favorites. Fun fact, Vasquez was also John Connors foster mom in Terminator 2, and the spider creatures are called Face huggers. I'm so happy you did this one soon after the original. I look forward to your new reactions, keep at it, you always make me smile. :)
Came to mention this, but figured someone already had. That kind of brown-face doesn’t really fly today, but that’s the ‘80s for you… Also, I hadn’t seen anyone mention yet that as well as Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton was also in Terminator, with a blue mohawk.
Additional Fun facts: The actor who plays the Colony Mayor, was also Captain Hollister in British Sci-Fi comedy Red Dwarf and also had a small role on the movie The Fifth Element
@@ryanclark6402 toofab: Now that there's all this talk about diversity in film - do you think you would be cast as Vasquez today?
Jenette: Hmm. No. I mean, people with Jewish last names are Latino, like my son is Pablo. Pablo Goldstein. He's Mexican-Jewish. So you don't want to stereotype what Hollywood thinks is Latino.
But there should be, obviously, roles available in a wide range of ethnicities, I think. You know, at the time, they were looking for an actress who was big and muscular, and they were wanting to cast a bodybuilder because they didn't think there were any actresses who had, you know, a physique that they wanted.
And so that was a big part of what they were looking for, and they were kind of shocked that there was a trained actress who actually had the physique.
You know what? I tell you the truth: I have never been cast, or given the opportunity to audition for a short, freckle-faced Jewish girl who is half-Russian and half-Moroccan and Brazilian. So, I don't think I would work very much if that's all I was able to read for.
@@jauntx You might be missing my point a little, so I’l clarify. I have no gripes with the actress or her portrayal of the part. She nailed it. Bang on, exactly the physique and attitude they were apparently looking for. She rules every scene she’s in. My issue was that once they found the perfect actress, they didn’t adjust the role at all to more accurately reflect their casting decisions.
If you think the short Jewish girl with freckles (who also happens to be ripped and rugged) is exactly what the film needs for the role of “Vasquez”, you find yourself with two options: make the actress look like the role, or change the role to better suit the actress. Given the actress’s performance, I see no reason she couldn’t have been equally badass portraying “Goldberg” or “Rubenstein” or, heck, even “Smith/Jones” without all the makeup needed to make her “Vasquez.” Change what’s on the page, not what’s on the camera. For another, better iteration of how this could have happened, see Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis in the casting of ST:TNG.
@@ryanclark6402 I just wanted to share with you something I found with her take about the subject. You're right about it being a different time back then.
Jenette Goldstein playing Vasquez, doing the pull ups, is John Connors foster mom in Terminator II, Michael Biehn playing Hicks, is Reese from the Terminator, Bill Paxton, playing Hudson, was the first one killed in The Terminator.
Nice work on the editing, also your outro's are actually interesting, so yea, well done Whim
I always thought Ripley was silly for wasting her ammunition on the eggs. The place was going to be nuked anyway and she would have had it to fend off the queen when she was leaving. Great reaction.
She was working on her PTSD. Clearly. And she had no idea the queen was going to detach and chase her.
@@miller-joel Still you know she wished she still had it, she did check the digital dial when she got to the top of the elevator.
@@miller-joel I still love the movie though its just something you notice over time. I personally I think it's better than the 1st one.
In the late 90s I got to go behind the scenes of the now sadly closed ‘Alien War’ attraction at Londons Trocadero Centre. They had a load of amazing props; including Dietrich’s armour, several smart guns & flamethrowers from the production. Also there were two art deco dog sculptures, which had featured in a deleted scene in Alien 3.
Fun facts: When they went to Acton Power station in West London to film Tim Burtons Batman, the sets of the Alien hive were still there.
For a long time, the Alien Queen was the single largest puppet ever created for a film.
There’s also a deleted scene which shows what happened to Burke.
Carrie Henn (Newt) is now a school teacher, but is still very much involved with Aliens.
During the filming of the escape through the air ducts, Carrie Henn repeatedly messed up her lines, so that she could slide down the chute. Also, when they were filming the sequence of her in the water, she spend a lot of time just hanging out with the performer who was playing the Alien. According to Henn they just say their dangling their feet into the water & chatting; I just picture Newt & her Xenomorph friend hanging out 😂
Al Matthews (Sgt Apone) was Vietnam Veteran & used his past experience to help with the training of the rest of cast during pre-production.
Please, please ignore those who say otherwise & make sure you round off the trilogy by watching the Assembly Cut of Alien 3.
Alien 3 was David Fincher (Seven, Social Network etc) directorial debut & is what I consider to be a failed masterpiece. It has been disowned by its director & was the product of too much interference by the studio. Even to this day, is remains a film that splits opinion amongst fans of the series.
Visually, it’s absolutely stunning & although the script isn’t perfect, it does serve a purpose in Ripley’s story arc.
The Assemby Cut fixes multiple issues from the theatrical cut & also reintroduces several scenes. It is now my preferred version of the film; & without giving anything away, I do prefer part of the theatrical cuts ending.
It was also the last film that the legendary Jordan Cronenweth (Blade Runner) would serve; albeit briefly as Director Of Photography on. Cronenweth left the production just after filming began due to his deteriorating health relating to Parkinson’s Disease.
"Oh, I see she found some underwear that wasn't like a children's size 10." HaHaHaHaHaHa!
I am soooooo happy you went with the extended cut. It adds so much to the story and the characters. Once I discovered it I never watched the theatrical cut again. It actually feels like an entirely different movie. Also, I very highly recommend reading the novels
I completely disagree. Everything in the extended version is unnecessary and overstated. Most of all, you lose the element of surprise about what has happened to the settlement.
@@disembodiedspiritsno I completely disagree. The extended version let’s the audience know Ripley lost a daughter when she got back so it makes her connection to Newt more emotional. The theatrical version cut that
Also recommend Cameron's extended cuts for The Abyss and Terminator 2 (which Whimsory has already covered, God bless her). You can't go wrong with more Cameron character development.
"Its game over, man! Game over!"
Followed by
"They mostly come out at night. Mostly."
Are two of the most iconic, and quoted lines from this movie
Your facial expressions during the tense moments and the gross moments were amazing and hilarious. You're definitely one of my favorite reactors. Can't wait to see your reactions to many more older flicks!
You’re the most adorable reactor I’ve seen! I love your reactions!
Bill Paxton is the 1st of 2 actors who shares the distinct honour of being killed by a Terminator, an Alien and a Predator! Lance Henriksen being the 2nd. Btw, Predator!
I know it gets a lot of bad press. But I do recommend watching the extended version of Alien 3. I believe it's for rent. Stay far away from the theatrical cut, the story is a mess in that version. Ignore the naysayers and make your own decision. But I do recommend extended version. Very happy you got to see the extended version of aliens!
My favourite movie reaction channel now with a nice amount of analysis. Great to see someone reacting with openness to good movies and letting the audience revisit them. Thank you.
Love your editing too... full screen, no annoying blurring or muffling, good job!
Thank you, Whimsory! 👾 #Whimsory #JamesCameron #Aliens
I believe this movie was my first ever R-rated film i saw, back when i was like 6 or 7
It holds a special place as a good film for me, and has aged like fine wine
Another sugestion is The Dead Zone(1983). Imho it;s easily the best adaptation of a Stephen King novel to the big screen. Tom Skerritt From Alien has a fair size role in it. Don't want to give any spoilers but there's such an uncanny resemblance of one of the main characters to a certain well known individual. There was also a series created from it that went for 6 seasons.
While *_Alien_* is a cosmic horror film, *_Aliens_* is a sci-fi action film, and they're both _amazing_ examples of both.
Personally, I'm a very big fan of Ridley Scott's continuation with *_Prometheus_* & *_Alien Covenant_* a lot because they maintain his same cosmic horror element from his first film, whereas *_Alien³_* & *_Alien: Resurrection_* are more of the sci-fi action in their tone.
Hopefully you have a good time with whichever of the ones you decide to check out after this!!
Absolutely; every time I go on an _Alien_ binge, it goes _Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, Covenant._ I hope we get the next film after _Covenant_ soon.
I'd disagree with describing Alien as COSMIC horror. Horror, to be sure, but more body horror. At the end of the day, it's just a beast that wants to eat/impregnate you. Nothing cosmic about it.
I'd add about Alien Resurrection, if you like Firefly, Joss Whedon did some of the writing on it and I feel like the crew of the Betty was a darker edgier first draft of the Firefly crew.
Whenever I see anyone saying they love the Prometheus movies, I know there is no hope for humankind.
@@YourXavier You're right, Alien is far more body horror than cosmic horror - but it's not entirely fair to say there are no elements of cosmic horror in it. It plays on the fear of the unknown/unknowable both in its themes and cinematography by barely showing the xenomorph, and what we do see of the xenomorph is both familiar and unfamiliar in uncomfortable ways. The 'gore' in the movie is less of the blood, guts, and bone variety (though, there is some of that) and more the unfamiliar, slimy, goopy substances (the white fluid 'blood' of the androids, the green acid blood of the xenomorph, the slimy textures of the egg room and the eggs themselves as they open. Lastly, the combination of horror and sci-fi elements and the way that the 'technologically advanced' humans are placed in a position of helplessness in the face of an unknown, amoral, and unrelenting entity. Those are all hallmarks of cosmic horror. That said, it certainly doesn't have the most genre-defining elements of cosmic horror: There's no sense of the xenomorph or the setting being 'beyond human comprehension' , the audience isn't confronted with their own insignificance in the grand scheme of things at any point in the movie, there's no sense of human preconceptions of the nature of reality being challenged or incorrect (i.e. nothing in the movie obviously defies what we know of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.), there's no supernatural elements woven into the themes or story, and the settings have a more 'industrial' rather than 'gothic' tone to them.
Now check this out, the lady who plays Vasquez is the same lady who played John Conners foster mom in Terminator 2. She is also on Titanic. I've seen all three of these movies tons of times and did not make this realization til a couple years ago.
You're back. We missed you. This movie is so good. Great reaction Whimsory. ❤❤
Hicks had read the report and took it to heart, unlike the others who didn't take it seriously. He was sizing up Ripley early on to see if she was for real, and once her story was confirmed, he was impressed that she had survived her first encounter with the aliens and started accepting her advice without question.
At least, that's how I interpret it.
In case you're wondering, the aliens are called "Xenomorphs" and when the little face huggers impregnate you, the chest-burster guy is part human DNA and part Xenomorph DNA. So if it goes in a kitty cat for example, the alien would bust out and be some crazy catlike alien thing.
Technically speaking, the word Xenomorph, just means "Strange Form" and is a catchall term for a whole range of unknown alien life forms, it's just that in this case, the term has stuck to refer to this particular gribbly nightmare thing.
Saw this screened in the royal Albert hall with a live orchestra performing the score - and then James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver came out at the end to take a bow 😮