REACTING to *Aliens (1986)* THE GREATEST SEQUEL?? (First Time Watching) Sci-fi Movies
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The girls, Hayley and Stella, are reacting to the sci-fi classic sequel Aliens (1986) and it is possibly the greatest sequel ever made?? Enjoy this react to the classic film directed by James Cameron and starring the wonderful Sigourney Weaver. Enjoy this first time watching sci-fi movies reaction to Alien (1986)
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The debate rages on about whether the sequel is better than the original, but one thing that I think most people can agree on is that the first two Alien films are classic sci-fi films.
Yeah, exactly this!
Both great, the first one is slow burn sci-fi horror, atmospheric and more creepy, this one is like an action movie and faster pace, and a bigger production.
I like Alien for introducing the story and Aliens for taking it up a notch. One sets the other up so both are important. They definitely lost all momentum in A3 and onwards. Ended up becoming a purely nerdy thought experiment.
@ThaUltimateHunter It wasn't the editing that bothered me but the way they killed off Newt. It broke the lore of the story and didn't advance it at all. I understand if they did it because they couldn't use the actor in real life. That's a shame. Would have been better just not to do the movie at all. In the comics Newt lives on and has adventures of her own.
Agreed, Ridley Scott always seems to prefer the H.R Giger horror route, while Cameron here decided to do an action thriller.
I loved the part where the Marine was saying how they were all toast and Ripley says, "This little girl survived here for weeks with no weapons and no training."
But see, I also think that had another meaning, much more sinister: I believed that the only reason Newt was left alone, was because, the Queen and the colony had taken every one else-- they didn’t need her… and when Ripley and the Marines came, it might have been the only thing that kept her from eventually being taken by them… as new eggs were hatched and new Xenomorphs were born.
How the queen got inboard the dropship is still a question untill this day 😂
Every strong female lead in sci-fi in the last 30 years owes its gemesis to Sigourney Weaver’s portraysl of “Ripley” in the first 2 Alien movies…
And she owes it to Jennifer Lawrence.
So many video games owe their existence to this movie.
16:40 In the Director's Cut there's extra scenes that show how Burke took the information from Ripley's hearing, and instructed colonists to go out to the alien ship, but without telling them what would be out there.
Right from the start, Burke was after bringing an alien back.
12:30 Ripley worked on the docks at the space station before she went on the mission so that is how she learned how to use the loader. A few months went by from the time she got picked up from the time she went on the mission to LV-427.
Saw this at the cinema twice when it first aired, queueing outside and a full cinema, atmosphere was electric for the final half hour.
fun fact.... that knife trick was not meant to have his hand on the table, so his reaction of surprise was genuine. it was only meant for Bishop to do the trick over a fake hand.
The problem with saying a movie like this is more "run of the mill" is...this is one of the first prototypes developed for the mill to produce. Its like watching The Matrix in 2023 and remarking that the bullet time is cliché. Part of the reason the movie is predictable is, the movie became a blueprint for countless movies after it. Just something to think about when watching older popular movies.
Bill Paxton has played some of my most favorite "lovable assholes". His Chet character from Weird Science, is hysterical.
Aliens directors cut is even better they added a extra 45 minutes to this classic
The great thing about the Alien franchise is how different all of the films are. Overall, this is probably the best film in the series, production-wise at least but I'm sure you'll find plenty to appreciate in Alien 3 as well. Hope to see the reaction soon! Best wishes!
So a quick note on the face huggers in the medlab. There were three in the jars. Remember in the beginning the family that investigated the ship? It was a husband/wife and two kids. Newt survived which hints at the mother father and brother all had face huggers attached and they were brought back to the medlab. Just my theory.
Seeing Hayley with the puppet history water bottle has me happy with the Watchers channels progress. I love the movie too. 😅
Great reaction. I love Hayley's soft heart for the little ones.
Ripley learnt to use the loader on earth, the only job she could get, as Burk pointed out, concentrate.
James Cameron's sequels Aliens and T2: Judgement Day are *chef's kiss*. In your own time, feel free to check out the Director's Cut with extra scenes. They provide a lil bit more context to certain scenes, but either version is great
When the girl on the left said "This is how ever sci fi movie goes" Nono mam.. this is how most sci fi films go NOW... BECAUSE of this movie. lol.
I saw this opening day, first show at midnight and it was a sold out theater. The best movie experience I've ever had. Every seat cheered when Burke got it.
Great reaction ladies, alien & aliens is peak A+ sci-fi, Ripley is a legendary character & Jones is my favourite movies cat😻keep up the great work 😊
Aliens is in my top 5 favourite films of all time, but I'd say that Terminator 2 is the greatest sequel of all time, but Aliens is supreme too. Thanks for the vid
Good thing she learn how to use the pulse rifle and the flame thrower. She was able not only to defend herself but also the people she cares about...
The vacuum of space exerts no force. It’s the 1 atmosphere of air pressure in the ship expanding into the 0 air pressure of space that blows you out. So would that wind be too much to climb out from? Not sure. But I think the bigger question would be how much air was accessible to the landing bay and how long would it take for it to become too diffuse to remain conscious.
Nice reaction! This is such a classic film!
As you can see in the comments, alien 3 is going to be interesting. It's not my favourite alien film either, but it's not necessarily a bad film in itself. But it is a very different style of film to the rest of the franchise, which is jarring. There are other reasons too, but thats spoilers.
Its been a long time since I've seen it, but i look forward to your reaction!
This is one of the best sequels ever produced. That said, I think “Alien” is the better of the two. I think it boils down to your personal taste, which one you prefer.
If I watch “Alien 3”, I always watch the director’s cut. I prefer that one because the pacing is much better. And I don’t consider neither “Alien 3” nor “Alien: resurrection” part of the Alien storyline, but that’s just me.
Great reaction video! You two did a great job!
(The special edition of “Aliens” gives you a little more background and gives you a better understanding of Ripley’s character, so if I were you I’d check it out at a later date.)
Alien 3 (directors cut) is a good movie on it's own, but I hate it as part of the overall story. Like you, I don't consider the other 2 in my personal canon, I prefer the comics.
Greatest sci-fi action film EVER! Now stop there, no need to watch any more, the Alien saga ends here.
It's not the vacuum in space that sucks you out, it's the air in the ship that pushes out. 😼
40:20 She doesn't know everything. She knows the layout of the air ducts because she used to play in them with the other kids, which is why you should have watched the special edition.
Fun fact: Bill Paxton is the only person in history to be killed by a Terminator, an Alien, and a Predator.
Just in case none of the other fans have mentioned it but it has been confirmed that the ALIEN, PREDATOR, and Blade Runner movies are in the same universe!
5:29 They mean worlds they have more intimate knowledge of like having sent probes or missions to.
Stella gets to the point. Alien 1, is a horror thriller. Little action, the subtle and permanent threat gets under your skin.
Alien 2 is an action film with horror elements. Too much boom boom, the usual soldier platitudes and more of a mix of Alien and Die Hard. The only thing missing is Ripley saying: "Yippy a yea pig cheek".
Compliments ladies. You are brilliant and Stella: great 80s style.
Die hard released in 1988, this movie is in 1986. But the writer for first alien and third alien is same writer as Die hard
This movie has my favourite movie quote of all time: 51:20 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I'll explain quickly. Xenomorph is from Star Wars, same as E.T., made by the race of humanoids from movie Prometheus (Covenant) who also made us but were disappointed with us, so they sent star map to us to come to the planet where Alien Xenomorph waits us, in eggs (those guys, facehuggers), when they put Queen in Antarctica Predators killed her in 1980s-1990s. They were here to hunt her, schwarzeneger was just a side task.
You also have crossover with Judge Dredd and Terminator in the future tense, but that will be probably made in the 2030s.
Gorman wasnt bad he just didnt have enough combat experience for mission like this.
Your point about how much the tech might have changed in 57 years is quite valid. Just think about the advances in tech nowadays. 57 years ago was 1966. We were still 3 years away from landing on the Moon, many many years away from mobile phones, Internet etc. The computer in the Apollo spaceship had 4Kb of memory and a 32Kb storage and was a "mere" 30Kg in weight. The latest iPhone has 6Gb of memory and up to 1Tb of storage and weighs about 200g.
And yet, cars work almost exactly the same way.
I'm not sure that the alien using an elevator is campy.
It shows that these aliens are smart and capable of solving problems.
They aren't just savage animals.
Ripley called BOTH elevators.
We already saw that when the elevator closes, it goes up - that's why it wasn't there waiting for Ripley.
So the alien sees Ripley get in one and then she sees another one so she gets in.
The elevator does the rest.
I mean, I don't mind if Mr. Spock or Chewbacca or Gomorra use elevators even though they are all aliens.
"I enjoy the BIGness. I like when it's BIG." (c) that's-what-she-said
I hope one day James Cameron will make a sequel to this.
If you wait till the credits end, you'll get a surprise
Alien was good because of the suspense. The alien could be anywhere, anytime. It was a pure horror movie. Aliens was more of an action movie with lot of horror also. Both movies were best in their categories. When i was little, when i coudn't sleep, I just watched 15 mins of the most scary scenes of Aliens, then I slept well :-)
Siqourney Weaver, Ripley was nominated for best supporting actress and Best actress, for this and Working Girl and lost both. But went down as one of the most bad asses in film history. Cheers.
One of my favorites. Now, do yourself a favor and never, ever, under any circumstances watch 3 or 4. Like eating gas station sushi, you will always regret it.
Great reaction! :)
Sigourney Weaver was amazing in this too.
And it's one of the best action sci-fi. If not the best. :)
to add to your argument. Acid for blood isn't far fetched.
If you did Chemistry at school you played around with Hydrochloric acid that has a PH of about 2 or 3.. Our stomach acid is almost the same stuff but with a PH of 1. It will easily burn through anything but glass.
Acid in a living thing is far from impossible.
My favorite of the alien films. James Cameron is good at the big film. So, based on that you can imagine my disappointment in Alien 3. It was awful! When James Cameron is no longer involved, and I mean directing, the franchise suffers. That’s why he has never relinquished Avatar, and probably never will. Great story teller and has shown consistency with that for decades now. The only alien films that were truly good after this one were the Alien vs. Predator movies, which were not in the same level as Alien or Aliens, or the first Predator. Although it’s not a James Cameron film, Predator is more like Aliens. Definitely watch it and I highly recommend The Abyss. Not a big money maker, but an awesome James Cameron film.
@whitenoisereacts 12:06 The marines aren't gaslighting anyone. ** They don't believe her crazy [but true] story, granted, but that's NOT what gaslighting is. I won't waste your time with a lecture, just please go look it up.
To be honest this one is my favorite, first one is good, but I definitely enjoyed this one way more
listen to the audio book of River of Pain to know what happens in Hadleys Hope While the Marines are on the way........ And newts tale graphic comic set
Upper body strength is only part of Ripley's problems. If the scene had been portrayed realistically, the air would have been pushed out (by the ships internal air pressure - a vacuum doesn't suck) in a few seconds. Ripley would have passed out before the alien queen let go of her foot.
But i don't need movies to be 100% realistic. 😊
Aliens and Terminator 2 are two of the most influential sci-fi action films of all time. They're copied to this day by countless movies, shows and comics.
Need to watch Director's cut of this film.
When you see the director's cut you will change your opinion, i never saw the theatrical cut again, the extended version is amazing in every way and more complete.
James Cameron? No wonder this movie reminds me so much of The Abyss.
Aliens are no doubt the best sequel ever.
Ironically enough, on of the few challenger is next Cameron sequel T2.
And for a movie that hit almost 40 y.o. Aliens are withstand the test of time flawelessly.
Still as engaging and chilling as in the very 1986!
I can't point any single weak pooit even if I wished.
As for Alien VS Aliens: the first one was groundbreaking and almost flaweless, BUT!
Alien as a movie still is nothing but a monster on closed space thriller.
And you know what?
This genre was founded in the very 1917 by film adaptation of Meinrik's Golem.
Moreover, this ancient Golem becomes a whole franchise with remake, sequels and almost a prequel MORE THAN A 100 YEARS AGO!!!
Second principal point: Alien is a lucky result of a many unique conditions and coincidences.
There was great and fully finished script by Dan O'Bannon.
Almost all the design and art crew H.R. Gieger included was borrowed from unstarted Dune by Chodorovsky.
Finally, Ridley Scott was assigned by pure luck and before Alien he has only but a humble debut Duelists.
The whole production process went through many iterations and even the finished version still has noticeably rough and unpolished 3d act with lots of holes, that even the director's cut won't patch.
Instead, Aliens just took the creature and glorious lieutenant Ripley and elevated the basic concept 10 times by expanding all the details and telling one of the best stories of mother's instinct.
Maybe scientists gotta science. Truer words were never spoken.
Paul Reiser is the actor from this and "Stranger Things", and here's a fun fact: his performance was so believable in this that even his own mother was glad when he met his fate!
His entire character in Stranger Things played off the role from Aliens. You were supposed to be suspicious of him until it turned out that he's "an ok guy".
@@DzinkyDzink It's funny, because his role in this film was based on the same premise: he'd been known for TV sitcoms and was considered a likeable guy, so he was cast as the villain because people's initial reaction would be to trust him.
He also was the co-star of the sitcom Mad About You, along with Helen Hunt.
I believe he said that she cheered when he died.
Yes, it’s a fantastic performance by him, just as Joffrey did in Game of Thrones a few decades later. An excellent portrayal of a hate-able character.
'Get away from her you b**ch' - just an iconic line from one of the best leads in a sci fi action franchise ever (maybe THE best).
Terminator next for sure, another amazing leading lady with an equally fantastic (better) sequel..also from Jimmy Cams
The Directors cut is better in every way in my opinion. They use the few extra minutes here and there very well. They get into Ripley's Daughter who died 2 years before she is found, so the mommy reference makes much more sense. They show the outpost functioning before the alien ship is found. And you get a just a few more minutes of character development before the marines start dropping like flies. ;p
They also show how the ship was found by Newt's family, so she's been attached to this event since minute 1.
You were not born.
Some of the dialogue in it is crinchy af though
Ripley, still the greatest action lady to grace the screen, a mother, a warrior and a survivor.
There is Beatrix Kiddo
I guess the name Sarah Connor is not known to you :)))
@@radupopescu2370I mean they're pretty much the same character.
@@allrequiredfields nope, Sarah started to became a human terminator at the end of T1, we can see that in T2. She's as lethal as a human can be, Ripley becomes that only in Alien: Resurrection.
Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Beatrix Kiddo, Imperator Furiosa, etc... all these Hollywood heroines have one thing in common: they're all characters. If you want a true female action star, gotta look into those who got established in Hong Kong: Michelle Yeoh, Cynthia Rothrock, Yukari Oshima, Moon Lee, etc...
In the extended version Ripley had a daughter that died before she returned home. Which I think make her relationship with Newt have so much more depth.
But it also acted as somewhat of a spoiler of what they (the space marines and Ripley) would encounter on the planet -- I prefer the original.
@@fewwiggle "Spoiler"
That there would be aliens in Aliens like the one we already saw in the first film? Also that's a completly different scene.
Yeah trade off of losing the scene with Ripley's daughter dying before she got back and missing the scene that spoils what happens on the colony. If there's a cut that includes the daughter scene and axes the colony scene, that is the best of the bunch.
fun fact, this daughter of hers is the character you play as in alien isolation
@@fewwiggle I perfer the second one. The characters are so much more interesting and emotional.
Ladies, great reaction. The reason Ripley could drive the loader is that was her job on the space station after she was rescued and lost her flight status, so the technology is not in question. I adore this movie, and Ripley's character is a role model not only for women, but for men as well.
I imagine also that being the third in command of the Nostromo meant she was intelligent, adaptable, and competent, so while she had to learn to operate some new gear in her new job she's definitely the kind of person who can learn quick and do what needs to be done to make ends meet.
I totally agree that Ripley is a role model for competence, it's very clear she's absolutely terrified after her previous encounter with the Xenomorph so her final actions of bravery feel much more meaningful, she's afraid but dealing with the fear and not just unafraid due to false confidence or ignorance of the threat.
@@G1NZOU Great point, and great comment. I agree 100%!!!
@@G1NZOUIf you're a Warrant Flight Officer than is rated to pilot a starfreighter, learning to be a Power Loader operator will be no problem. It is akin to being an Airline Pilot who loses his flight license and has to make do and retrain as a Warehouse Forklift Operator. Nothing to do with being in Third-in-Command of the Nostromo. Her place in the Chain-of-Command was contingent on being the Flight Officer in the first place.
@@Ryan_Christopher Yes I agree, my point was she was already competent and well trained, and as a flight officer in general in modern day is meant to be adaptable, adjusting to be a forklift operator and transferring common sense skills like culture of safety and checklists would be a piece of cake.
As a grown-ass man, Ellen Ripley is one of my favorite movie characters ever.
The first one is a horror movie. This one is more of a pure action movie. Which one people like more usually (but not always) depends on their genre preference.
gabus man say, action better.
A lesser director tasked with making a sequel to an all-time classic would have just recycled the original. James Cameron took a risk by making it an action movie with totally new characters and upping the ante by adding more aliens and the queen.
This film actually goes from being an action movie halfway to a survival movie once they get stranded on the planet and the rest of the film is them trying to survive and escape.
Predator did the same thing
the first half of the films are textbook actions films, while the second half devolves quickly into survival-horror
When James Cameron did something a little different with the Alien franchise, everyone loved it.
When Jean-Pierre Jeunet did something a little different with the Alien franchise, everyone hated it. Except me. 😄
Alien: Horror
Aliens: Action
Alien... I don't know how I'm supposed to pronounce a title with superscript in it's name -- like is it Alien cubed? Alien to the third power? Alien (small high pitched voice) *three*... so I already feel hopeless and depressed:
Nihilist Porn
Ripley is what people should aspire to be: Strong, intelligent, and adaptive when they need to be, vulnerable enough to admit they need someone to help at times.
Ripley it's what all heros should strive to be.
Yeah, I'm so tired of Gen Z saying there are no strong woman characters. There always have been. Stop bitching just for bitching. Princess Lea was no wimp either
Lt. Ellen Ripley is the personification of a strong woman on film. She's a woman that doesn't need to beat the crap and kill men to prove that she's a strong woman. She's a leader and a protector. Men will follow her because they trust her leadership. That is a good example of a strong woman on film.
And Sarah Connor
Thank God Jennifer Lawrence was there with these roles first to teach Weaver 🤣 🤣
@@didamnesia3575wasn't Jennifer Lawrence the first woman ever born?
We need less Yaass Slaaaay Queens and more Ellen Ripleys.
@@lewas91 You mean where everyone is a competent person who does not do wildly stupid things? It is the age old battle of two starkly different philosophies. 1) A rising tide lifts all boats or 2) Life is a zero-sum game where in order for me to get a bigger piece of the pie others have to get less.
Sigourney Weaver's in another really fun Sci-Fi movie called, "Galaxy Quest". It is really funny.
Best Star Trek EVER!!!
God yes. Please do Galaxy Quest. NOT. Aliens 3!
Alien 3 was just plain sad. Nothing really exciting. Just depressing from the start to finish. I try to pretend it doesn't exist, lol...
@@shannanmuire The Dark Horse comics continuity makes it especially easy to ignore the following (comparatively terrible) later movies. Absolutely more enjoyable than the grim and repetitive story elements sprinkled into the later films. Would far prefer the Alien franchise had gone down that pathway rather than what we got from the horrific Alien 3 or even the prequel Prometheus. As it stands, the one movie I do like that feels like it belongs to the Alien/Aliens universe is a film starring Sean Connery called 'Outland.' Same set designer, so it matches the same industrial vibe. Obviously no Xenomorphs, but it tells a story that looks like it could have happened in that same universe.
Ripley learned to drive a power loader when she was working on the docks when they took away her flight officer status. Burke mentioned she was driving loaders in her current job.
They were talking over a lot of the little details...I hope they will watch it again.
Personally I always had a bit of an issue with this only because it had been many years realtime since she had used one and based on how things update and change in reality it only makes sense that the power loader would have had multiple updates and changes over 50+ years
@@stormywaters1565 she used them after they found her in space.
@@stormywaters1565 it hadn't been many years. She took a job at the docks because she could no longer be a flight officer (remember Burke saying he knew it was the best job she could get). She learned to use a loader for the job at the docks. So, she only used a loader for the time between when she lost her officer position and they came asking her to return to the planet. Though they don't specify how much time that was, it was obviously enough time for her to achieve a class 2 rating on the power loader.
@@richardb6260 ah yeah ok I was always puzzled by that but makes sense now. The movie doesn't do a great job of making it evident a good bit of time had passed between her return home and departure.
The Xenomorph Queen is probably one of the best creature animatronics designed for films.
Edit: it’s actually a puppet.
100% agree. Considering it's fully practical. Our brain knows it. That's why it looks so good 37 years later.
I'm not so sure about that.
What I saw of it in the making of doc looked as much like puppetry as animatronics.
That's not to say that the puppetry wasn't great if that is a closer approximation of the technique used.
It's not animatronic. It was a puppeted. There's a great documentary about the making of this film, and they discuss the creation of this "puppet" creature.
@@aaronsynra6867 Depends on what model...
There were 4. 1 Large full puppet. 1 Large 1/2 stationary with animatronics. 1 Small puppet. 1 Small figurine.
The documentary on the special Edition only shows the large full puppet as it was the most impressive. There are third party documentaries (i think Adam Savage did one) where you see parts of the others and it's fully discussed.
I mean Aliens and Jurassic Park is in a class of their own when it comes to practical effects. But, JP is a lot better when it comes to actual animatronics, Alien/s just did minimal footage and dark lighting to make it look good. The design of the Xenomorph is unmatched though
FUNFACT about Carrie Henn aka Newt. It was her first and only camera role she ever took. She became a grade school teacher instead but from time to time she gets fan letters and kids tell her, her praent's loved her in Aliens.
James Cameron was more cautious about the film environment toward Carrie than her actual parent's, meaning he was on her side all the time making her as comfortable as possible. Also she said that Sigorney became like her actual 2nd mom for the time and she loves her.
Its all said in the cast reunion at comicon 2016. RIP Bill "Hudson" Paxton 🥺😢
Jenette also really didn't do much in hollywood after this movie. She was so great in it i expected much more out of her, but wasn't to be. She did a bunch of cameos and 2 bit roles but based on her in Aliens i would have thought she would have a much bigger career. Good looking, curvy, young, and her first role such a good one? Nope.
@@eolsunder at least James casted her for Terminator 2 again.
If Bill Paxton's gravestone doesn't read "Game over, man...Game over" that makes me even more sad
I bet kids are terriffied. Imagine YOUR parents told you "Tell your teacher i loved her in Aliens"
That final fight with the exosuit is still one of my favorite scenes in all of cinema, with one of the best ore asskicking lines.
It's cool to me that Cameron got his start with an FX demo if a woman in an exoskeleton fighting a robot. Which kinda made it into his first two mainstream movies in a way.
One of the best Sci-fi Action movies ever made!
It was nominated for 7 Oscars:
Best Actress, Sigourney Weaver
Best Sound Editing, Don Sharpe
Best Sound Mixing, Nicholas De Musserier
Best Visual Effects, Stan Winston, John Richardson, Robert Skotak
Best Film Editing Ray Lovejoy
Best Original Score, James Horner
Best Production Design, Peter Lamont.
It won Best Visual Effects and Sound Editing.
It made $193 million dollars ($714 million dollars today) against an $18 million dollar budget.
Its regarded as one of the best Sci-fi Action movies ever made.
A woman nominated for an Action Sic-Fi role? No one ever thought that could happen. But Sigourney is one of a kind! Best actress ever!
@@reesebn38 The writers specifically wrote the main role to be non gender specific. Why they ended up choosing Sigourney, I don't know, but it turned out to be a genius move.
How many times have you wrote this now?
@@n0tk0sher He/she or me!
@@riveraharper8166 shainewhite. I've seen this message on every Aliens reaction I've watched. I was just wondering if they had it saved and just pasted it in. Lol, it's cool though.
Too bad there were never any more movies in this franchise, but I'm happy knowing that Ripley, Hicks and Newt all had long, full lives after this.
I agree completely. 👍
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Oh gawd, the sarcasm! 😂
Alien 3 is actually great. Purely for Charles Dance’ performance. One of the greatest English actors of all time. And resurrection was ok.
We don’t talk about AVP though.
@@group-music Nope. After Aliens nothing exist in this (maybe except the alien skull in Predator 2).
Ripley is one of my favourite characters/heros in all movie history, she is up there with James Bond and Indiana Jones. Just a shame the character/story suffered after Aliens, but I have trouble deciding which of the two I like best as they are both excellent in their own way.
I LOVE the mother vs. mother aspect of the storyline. It shows both are all in. Also Ripley an adoptive daughter right after she found out her biological daughter passed away. ❤
Alien: Isolation Isa game that kind of fills in part of Ripleys daughters' life. She tries to find out what happened to her mom.
@@rwxstudio7173 😲 😲 😲
Totally watch the extended version. It fills in some things this left out and it makes more sense in the end.
The only issue with the extended version is that they show the colony prior. But if you've seen the film before then it's not such a big deal.
@@nutyyyy it also shows that she was a mom before she came to the planet. She lost her daughter and gains one with Nute
@staciepoole8161 the picture they show Ripley of her daughter when she passed away was of her (Sigourney Weaver's) mom to add the emotional touch.
@@nutyyyy That's not an "issue" in the real world. It's only an "issue" in your mind.
Stella, in the original film, the byline was "In space, no one can hear you scream". That movie was far more about the ominous atmosphere, and the suspense. That's why you hardly saw the alien in the first movie. They were going for more of an emotional reaction from audience in the first one. Whereas in this movie, it was more about the thrills, and the action; something James Cameron is known more than Ridley Scott who directed the first film.
The tagline for Aliens was “This time, it’s war.”
The first film is a horror film
the second film is an action film for the first alf, then devolves into a survival horror for the last half.
Although you see a lot of the queen in aliens, you see even less of the warrior aliens in Cameron's film than you do in the first film. You see that there are multiple aliens, but they're always shrouded in shadows and darkness. In the last third of Alien, you see a lot of the creature, especially right at the end when Ripley blasts it with the ship exhaust.
@@Aquascape_Dreamingthat was because they only had five actors in the warrior suits so they had to digitally replicate them. It’s much easier to do have them in shadow.
Poor Jonesy. Imagine being a cat from Ripley's traumatic past, thrown 57 years forword into a whole new feline world. Unable to identify with other cats. Poor Jonesey :(
James Cameron is responsible for 2 of the greatest sequels ever made. But damn, Ripley's life has been a living hell ever since the Nostromo
He also had two of the greatest heroines in filmdom, Ellen Ripley, and Sarah Connor. Dude has been pretty much money with nearly every movie.
Avatar 2 did pretty well.
@@JonCombopretty well is an understatement. Its literally the highest grossing movie with the second one in 3rd place
Vasquez is the Foster mom of Johnn Connor in Terminator 2 Judgement Day, took me a few viewings of both this movie and T2 to realize that lol
Wow, from kickass babe to harassed mom. Shows her acting range.
Vazquez also played in Titanic,she was the mom with the two children in bed.
She's also one of the cops in Lethal Weapon 2 and one of the vampire gang in Near Dark (which also has Bill Paxton and Lance Henrikksen from Aliens).
Ripley is such a good leader. when Hudson starts freaking out she gives him a simple but important task, enough to get his mind off things, isolate him from the group for a bit so he stops freaking them out and get his head back in the game while feeling important to the group. Excellent game plan and reaction.
That's why she was the second in command in Nostromo.
Fun fact: Jennette Goldstein (Vasquez) is a good friend of James Cameron. It's hard to believe she was the same woman to play the irish mother in the movie "Titanic". She's also in at least one more James Cameron film, but based on the comments, I'm assuming you haven't seen it yet, so...no spoilers.
and the foster mother of John Conner in Terminator 2
@@TowaFX Yeah I know that, I was trying not to spoil it. READ MY COMMENT. DUH!!
@@ChrisReise Pride was too heavy for this guy. Typical narcissist behavior about "See? ME I KNOW".
She is a chameleon of an actor damn
The line in the movie when Hudson says "She heard Aliens and thought it meant Illegal Aliens and signed up" is an inside joke with the Cast about Jennette. When the casting came out she thought the Movie was about Illegal Aliens and showed up dressed like a Migrant for the Casting call......
The extended version was awesome. It wasn't much longer but it was all worth while. Especially the action tunnel scene with the remote guns
I still prefer the theatrical version. I especially don't like the scene where Newt and her family go out to the derelict ship. It shows the facehugger too soon and it also makes it less surprising to find Newt later on.
@@nodak81 Same.
In my opinion they didn't just cut that scene for time - they cut it so that it was less obvious that Aliens is actually more of a remake than a sequel.
When you put that scene back in suddenly the cadence of plot elements looks a lot more like the first film.
@@nodak81 funny. acceptable point but i don't feel it. it's totally clear that they are going find aliens when they arrive later (and the we-lost-contact-scene is right after that scene), so no surprise to be spoiled (to me it rather builds up tension on what /exactly/ they are going to find). and it's also not clear that it is necessarily Newt to be found later on, could have just be a random family.
also Newt's scream in that cut scene is one of the best in whole cinema history.
For me, the missing scenes are the ones where Ripley and Burke discuss her daughter. It informs Ripley's reaction to Newt.
I like portions of both versions. My ultimate version would use scenes from both but especially delete the early family discovery, while leaving in that they went to check it out. So we'd see the colonists and know newts family went out there but we wouldn't see the family attacked.
The extended cut is much, *much* better than the theatrical release (which is still amazing).
The reasons why are:
1) More character development for Ripley, which adds more meaning to her deep connection with Newt.
2) Extra scenes at the colony, which show how thriving it was before it gets overrun. That makes the scene where the marines find Hadley's Hope completely deserted much more sinister.
3) Scenes with the colonists finding the alien ship, which shows it broken up by seismic activity on the planet.
4) The sentry gun turret scenes. Apart from just being incredibly cool, the sentry turrets explain why the aliens don't try to bust their way through the barricades just like they did with the colonists. After failing to get past the turrets, the aliens shut off power to the medlab and then come in through the ceiling, which shows how smart and adaptable they are.
I second this comment, the Directors cut is by far superior.
Yea, the extended version gives you a little more background, though not much. The biggest difference were the automatic cannons they used first on the planet. I really liked those :-)
I largely agree. I could do without the colonists finding the ship, though. I find that it kneecaps some of the mystery when the marines start to investigate Hadley's Hope. Which I'll admit doesn't really make sense. I mean - we all know what's going on. Kinda. But it just feels to me like its more interesting touching down not having seen anything about the colonists at this point.
It's a fair point about showing a thriving colony. It does make the empty spaces feel like they should be feeling less utilitarian and more lived in. Maybe if the edit showed the colony and stopped at the discovery scene. Dunno. YMMV.
A director's cut without the colonists finding the ship would be perfect.
@@arandomnamegoeshere Yeah, I get your point about the colonists finding the ship and the dad getting facehugged. It does undercut the suspense way too early.
The only thing is, it's really cool to see the alien ship partly broken open, and there wouldn't be any reason to show it in the movie otherwise.
One thing that the studios seem to have overlooked, is that the alien ship is *still* there on LV-426. There's no mention of the colonists blowing it up, and the ship is at least 100 miles away from the colony site (because it took the salvage team a week to get there).. so it wasn't destroyed when the reactor blows up.
They could have used the alien ship as a source of eggs for the sequel, instead of the ridiculous plot hole egg that starts Alien 3.
At least the magic egg makes Alien 3 and all the dross that came after it non-canon.
Extended cut added much more meaning to the relationship of Ripley and Newt in the first few minutes of the film. Mind boggling that the studio cut it out.
It was because of those scenes getting cut is why Weaver almost didn't do Alien 3. She only relented when given executive producer credit as well as implementing her personal views on firearms ie she's anti-gun big time.
The studio didn't cut the scenes, Cameron wasn't the king of the world then and he was obliged to deliver a movie that didn't exceed a certain length. He got his director's cut released a few years later on home video - one of the first directors to make a habit of finishing a longer version for the future, starting with "Aliens." However Cameron saw to it that his extra scenes were finished and/or preserved he deserves a lot of credit for predicting the future.
From the point of view of the studio, there was no reason to believe that "Aliens" would work anything like as well as it did. "Alien" was seven years before and Cameron had only done "Terminator" and "Piranha II" by this point.
No, I still prefer the original version. The surprise of shooting at a child was way more horrifying. Even the deceased daughter stuff is not really needed for a woman to protect and bond with a child.
@@ardvan OP said the scene shouldn't have been cut... and you say "no" because of a completly different scene?
@@Painocus I prefer the cut version. By showing less it enhances the suspense because you have no clue what happened.
Paul Reiser, the actor who played Burke, said in an interview that his own mother cheered at the premier when his character died.
I like how these two directors made two different films but were able to keep the lore and canon of the franchise. While two different directors made the previous Star Wars trilogy and completely undermind each other.
So true, the massive worldbuilding of the first movie really benefits this one, while this one also respects and builds upon the worldbuilding and plot of the first one.
My biggest problem with the newest Star Wars was in EpVIII it felt like they were actively trying to delete certain threads of plot points and characters, and EpIX seemed like it was just trying to salvage what was left of a coherent story from the end of VIII, like they got written into a corner.
These two movies along with the first two Terminator movies is definitely an example of how to do sequels right.
Okay let’s be fair this analogy sucks
Making the sequel to a film is not the same as making a literal squeal trilogy to an existing trilogy.
and to be even more fair, as much as i dislike the sequel trilogy
Freaking Lucas destroyed his own lore and cannon with the prequels and Medioclorians destroying everything about the force
turning the Jedi from warrior monks who kept peace to literal video game superheroes who were almost invulnerable (until plot needed them not to be) and could wipe out entire armies single handed.
@@mckenzie.latham91 Personally I've never found Midichlorians to have ruined the lore.
It was assumed from the end of Return of the Jedi that force sensitivity was apparently inheritable when Luke says the force is strong in his family, Midichlorians just add a layer of mild science to that idea that a Jedi's force abilities are a mixture of genetic sensitivity and Jedi training honing that natural gift.
But yes making them hold their own in combat against hundreds may have been good for spectacle but it did admittedly ruin the mystery a bit.
However the new sequels didn't even get basic character consistency right, they immediately made characters irrelevant or killed them off in episode VIII and cut off different themes in favour of focusing on a slow chase, and then episode IX has hundreds of ships helping them even though they had no backup answer them in VIII, the plot was all over the place.
It's so funny how people are talking about the world-building and lore of Ridley Scott's Alien. Guys, it's one of the most perfect films ever made, but it's a b-movie script treated with a-movie sensibilities. It's a b-movie with big money, good actors and a good director riding on the tailcoats of other recent sci-fi movies. It's simple, straightforward and trying to scare you. Not build a world.
And if the lore is what gave us Prometheus, i don't need it. 😄
@@G1NZOU "Personally I've never found Midichlorians to have ruined the lore.”
Good for you but you are wrong, it as literally been proven to totally retcon everything in Empire
The force goes from a living energy field that exist sin all things, that the Jedi were just trained to tap into
to literal organisms that have to exist in humanoid bodies, and how many of these organisms exist in you controls how powerful you are in the force
Which is essentially Dragon Ball Z Power levels
“Even master Yoda doesn’t have a medichlorian count of over 20 thousand” etc.
It’s ridiculous, ruins the mysticism and everything meaningful about the force and totally ignores the message.
At that point Star war was ruined
the only ting that saved the Prequels in terms of relevance to the overall franchise, was the expanded universe and the numerous cartoons and stories centered around it, to actually make it make sense, give it purpose and literally flush out what Lucas couldn’t get right or be betted to care about, in the films.
That's the only saving grace.
"It was assumed from the end of Return of the Jedi that force sensitivity was apparently inheritable when Luke says the force is strong in his family,”
The force exists in everything and everyone, but like any traits, those who are strong in the force pass that on
that has nothing to do with medchlorians
And in the original trilogy you could be strong in the force and not be a Jedi
When Vader is chasing Luke in the death star trench he says, “the force is strong with this one”
he had no idea it was a Jedi or Luke/his son, which was the hint that you don't need to be a jedi to be in the force or have the force
That was changed after Lucas made the prequels and basically regulated everyone who has force abilities or force sensitive is somehow only that way because they have power levels.
Star wars was killed long before Disney had control
Cause Lucas forgot his roots, threw away the idea of collective filmmaking and was so obsessed with what shinny sterile toys he could make and do with his green/blue screens and computers,
that he forgot the key to actual good film making is real substance, good or at least focussed writing, and knowing when to stop adding on to your already established and perfect work to try and appear edgy and profound.
Funnily enough the exact same lessons the people who did the sequel trilogy failed to learn as well.
Seeing this in '86 was the first time I'd experienced an audience cheering during a film. There were a number of moments that got a reaction but the two I remember are Hicks diving through the med-lab window and the reveal of Ripley in the loader.
There's a book that explains why she was lost for 57 years. The director's cut is better as it has more background on Ripley and Newt's family. I always thought these marines were specially picked by the "Company" because they were f-ups and not the top of the line..which suited the company's agenda. There is a cut scene that shows Ripley coming across a cocooned Burke.
One of my favorite movies of all time. Mom took my sister and I see this at the theater when I was 10 or 11. Was such a long adrenaline ride, my hands started shaking in the car on the way home. The very definition of an "edge of your seat" film. It was awesome.
This was actually pretty groundbreaking when it came out 37 years ago.
and of course now every reactor just compares everything to a Marvel movie
@JohnnyXoz which are generally worse imo
Exactly. It provided the archetype so many movies copy.
I imagine the xenomorph calmly standing in the elevator listening to an instrumental version of "Girl From Ipanema".
6:44 - Looks like you're watching the theatrical cut. The Director's Cut adds in a lot of footage left out of the original, including a scene here where we get to see the colony thriving before the inevitable happens. We also learn about Ripley's daughter, who lived to old age and died 3 years before Ripley was found. (Incidentally, Ripley's daughter is the protagonist of the 2014 video game Alien: Isolation.)
12:30 - You may have missed this, but actually several weeks/months have passed since she woke up. Like Burke said, she's been working as a cargo loader in the space docks since then. Even if she hadn't been familiar with this equipment before, she's had time to learn.
18:51 - Would YOU be after the s#$% she's seen?
23:03 - This is what Xenomorphs do when they reach sufficient numbers to form a colony. First they secrete the same resinous material that makes up their exoskeletons and use it to turn their current location into a Hive. This resinous shell not only helps turn the climate into one more suited to their metabolism, but it acts as highly effective camouflage because it is the same material as their exoskeletons sculpted into shapes that mimic their own lines.
26:21 - This is what we in the 40K fandom call 'Exterminatus.'
27:16 - So I'm going to mention this here. One of the things you miss out on not seeing the Director's Cut is the development of the relationship between Hicks and Ripley that starts here. You get bits of it, but not enough to see where it's supposed to be going.
32:00 - As I mentioned earlier, the Director's Cut shows the colony receiving that message and going out to investigate.
39:59 - GAME OVER, MAN! GAME OVER!!
44:13 - This scene is slightly extended in the Director's Cut and serves as the wrap-up for the development of Ripley and Hick's relationship. The highlight of the scene is finally learning Ripley's first name: Ellen.
Aliens established the core of the Xenomorph lore. Although the later Promethius movies would attempt to expand the background, most of the lore development from here on took place in comics, video games, and other forms of media. Probably the biggest thing to happen to expand the lore of the xenomorphs actually happened in a different movie franchise from the same era.
The original movie series has two more films: Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection. A prequel duology exists: Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. They're...different. You can take them or leave them. What you DO need to watch are the Predator movies: Predator 1 and 2. I know the guys watched 1, you should try to get in on 2 when they watch it. After that there's the Alien Vs. Predator series.
I think you actually grow to like the soldiers!!!
Yes, a little reverse psychology. Set them up as assholes, then humanise them, then you don't know where your emotions are, and that's exactly how they pull you in further. They set you up to make assumptions and then destroy them in front of your face.
46:25to expand on the "mother" theme. This was a great scene where the mother of the aliens stares down Ripley who is Newt's surrogate mother. They don't say anything to each other but they both have that "you hurt mine, I hurt yours" vibe
and then an egg opens and ripley goes " so you wanna play that way ?" and the alienqueen might have realised the mistake
Hey, Stella and Haley! This is one of the best sequels ever made!
Unfortunately, you didn't see the superior SPECIAL EDITION which has the Amanda Ripley scene, the functioning colony scene, Newt's family's discovery of the derelict ship scene, the automated gun scene, the Hudson speculation about queen ants scene and the name exchange scene. The SPECIAL EDITION is the version both James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver prefer.
The future Ripley inhabits is implied to be a dystopic corporatocracy. The most pervasive and powerful corporate entity is the Weyland-Yutani Company, a 22nd-century version of the British East India Company of the 17th- to 19th-centuries. It is a multinational conglomerate involved in robotics, interstellar transport and terraforming with a stake in every colony world. The Company is the TRUE VILLAIN of the Alien universe. Ash and Burke were following a secret corporate mandate to obtain a xenomorph specimen in order to profit from research and weaponization.
The colonists who venture beyond the compound like Newt's parents are prospectors who can lay a claim to any discovery they make. The Company would get a large percentage of the find but the colonist would own a piece. A valuable ore would mean a fortune! After Burke heard Ripley's story, he contacted the colony boss to dispatch someone to the coordinates Ripley had indicated in her report with no warning of danger. He must have done a little digging and found out about the Company Directive to investigate any possible sign of intelligent life and to bring back a specimen. He sent Newt's family straight to the derelict ship.
Neither Hicks nor Apone were treating Ripley in a sexist manner when she offered to help prep. They regarded her as a civilian. They were both accustomed to females in their unit such as medic Dietrich, pilot Ferro and heavy-gunner Vasquez. When she demonstrates her proficiency with the loader, they were laughing good-naturedly at her bravado and their own underestimation of her abilities.
Some trivia:
The picture of Ripley's elderly daughter in the Special Edition is actually Sigourney Weaver's real-life mother!
The late Al Matthews, who played Sgt. Apone, was a true-blue Marine who was the first black man to be promoted to Sergeant in the Corps during his service in Vietnam!
The knife-trick scene was originally supposed to be performed by Lance Henriksen alone but he convinced director James Cameron to surprise Bill Paxton by involving him as they shot the scene! Paxton's wide-eyed terror is completely real!
Fan favorite Vasquez is played by non-Hispanic Jenette Goldstein! She goes out like a warrior and enables Gorman to reclaim his honor.
Ms. Goldstein now is the proprietress of a Los Angeles-based boutique that specializes in bespoke large-size bras! The motto of her company is, "At Jenette's, the alphabet begins with 'D'."!
Bishop's programming to not harm humans or allow them to come to harm through inaction is ripped straight from Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics!
Carrie Henn, who played Newt, never acted again but became a schoolteacher. She still maintains a correspondence relationship with Sigourney Weaver thirty-six years later.
The late Bill Paxton, who has the distinction of being attacked on screen by an Alien, a Terminator and a Predator, will NEVER be forgotten for his reading of the line, "Why don't you put HER in charge?", referring to little Newt in her oversized helmet. Lol.
"ALIEN 3: ASSEMBLY CUT" is a DIVISIVE film but it's an EXCELLENT entry in the series. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU SEE IT!!! Many will try to dissuade you but it is ESSENTIAL VIEWING! It's directed by David Fincher and features Charles Dance and Charles Dutton. It's brutal, fast-paced, has a solid cast, has some extraordinary scares, provides new insight into the creature, presents a fascinating dilemma and concludes the trilogy elegantly. I strongly encourage you NOT TO SKIP IT! Make sure you see the ASSEMBLY CUT (Special Edition with longer runtime). It is available on Redbox and right here on YT. "Alien Resurrection" is the optional one because it's a hot mess except for one cool aquatic sequence. The ambitious prequels, "Prometheus" and "Covenant", mark director Ridley Scott's return to the series but they are mostly good JUST for Michael Fassbender's performances. Scott demystifies the creature and unsatisfyingly attempts to address who the elephant-headed pilot of the derelict spacecraft was.
If you intend to see the "ALIEN vs. PREDATOR" films, then you need to acquaint yourself with the PREDATOR franchise. The first is an action classic with Schwarzenegger. Danny Glover's underrated urban-set "PREDATOR 2" features some memorable set pieces. Dark Horse comics explored the crossover concept inspiring Hollywood to make two crossover films with moderately successful to excellent results. They're fun and exciting guilty pleasures with the second one, "ALIENS vs. PREDATOR: REQUIEM", being particularly lean and mean. There is also a "PREDATORS" film produced by Robert Rodriguez that is definitely worth a look. "THE PREDATOR" (2018) REBOOT, however, nearly killed the franchise and should be approached with a great deal of trepidation! "PREY" is an 18th-century-set prequel to the original film that was released on Hulu last summer! The Alien films have a RICHER SUBTEXT while the Predator films are more ACTION FARE but they're both fun sci-fi thrillers.
VIEWING ORDER:
Alien
Aliens (Special Edition)
Alien 3 (Assembly Cut)
Alien Resurrection (Director's Cut) [OPTIONAL]
Predator (1987)
Predator 2
Predators
Prey
Alien vs. Predator
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (Unrated)
Prometheus [OPTIONAL]
Covenant [OPTIONAL]
The Predator (2018) [EXTREMELY OPTIONAL]
INTERNAL CHRONOLOGY:
1719 Prey
1987 Predator
1997 Predator 2
2004 Alien vs. Predator
2004 Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (Unrated)
2010 Predators
2018 The Predator [EXTREMELY OPTIONAL]
2093 Prometheus [OPTIONAL]
2104 Covenant [OPTIONAL]
2122 Alien
2179 Aliens (Special Edition)
2179 Alien 3 (Assembly Cut)
2379 Alien Resurrection (Director's Cut) [OPTIONAL]
“Why are you going to bring an advisor if you’re not going to listen to them?”
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Queen takes Bishop.
Love the commentary but try not to talk during important dialogue as you'll be behind the plot. Or pause the movie and resume. For example, one of you asked how she knew how to work the Loader since she's been away for 57 years however earlier on there was dialogue informing that she had lost her pilots license from Weyland but was working in construction so she would have been using machines such as the Loader in that job.