Not really You have to understand, Dovahkiin is extremely powerful and their skill is unfathomable. A prodigy in literally everything they do Remember all the trained mages in Labyrinthian who perished, only for us to do it casually and alone in record time 😅
@@danielendless I agree it seems like a joke at first but your basically a demigod he knows if he can tie you to the organization it will florish even if magic is just your hobby I remember the first time I became archmage I did it with a heavy armor two handed orc build all the enemies like using anti magic bullshit I didn't even have to acknowledge because I tanked though of course I didn't play legendary at the time soo
@@kellynolen498 it is a role playing game, and it should be played that way. Given how you described your character, it seems it doesn't make any sense for him to be involved in that questline anyway.
@@servus_incognitus well I wanted all the things why not learn magic and the blade? I went to the college to learn magic of course well at least the first playthrough I see what you mean but they should have had a proper speech acknowledging certain facts like if you haven't even reached master or expert level in any spell or they could have really leaned into how fast you learn because honestly what took years of study for them takes a few dungeon crawls of combat inspiration or a just a lecture from a trainer you see mages do amazing things in the elder scrolls games but all you can do is cast a few spells you found or bought the rest of the collage is researching there own unique invention and spells and you just copy them in Skyrim the disparity gets me to much
Which now begs to question if his death was negligence to cast the ward, or if Ancano's meddling with the EoM was too power for even Savos to protect himself against
I believe there are only THREE points in the entire college quest where magic is required... first to get into the place, but I think you can also shout to prove you have magic if you don't have money to even buy the scroll from the guard. Demonstrating a ward during the one class you attend. Then once to knock down a wall when you get trapped behind the bars in the old ruin, I think any magic will break it. And, as with every guild in Oblivion & Skyrim, once you're named the leader, your presence isn't even necessary afterwards. You can ignore the place & they'll still run smoothly. And yes, 99% of players probably only join out of necessity as going after an amulet requires admission to enter that one ruin & I believe Dawnguard has a segment that involves talking to someone inside... though that might be optional & only needs admittance to the building.
@@OneEyedCloud01 you kill someone unimportant and hide for 24 hours, then come back. The class will be skipped, and that also unlocks the gates to the college if you glitched yourself into it.
@@diosoth Harkon wants to screw around with nature on a mess up level and you can get the vampire lord form from Serana anytime at the end of the questline even if you have joined the Dawnguard. Well Isran is an ass but they've got fancy enhanced dwarven crossbows with fitting bolts so you can get crossbows and be a vampire lord if you whish so. Win-win for me 👌
There are two types of arrogance. Normal arrogance and arrogance backed with skills and experience. He has the second type, so despite him being a dick it's hard not to respect him
@@thalmoragent9344 That's not because he's an elf, It's because he's Telvanni that he's that way. The Telvanni wizard lords all have eternal lives because of their deals with deadra. They've had thousands of years to learn Magic so they think no one can match them. This is obviusly assuming this is the same Master Neloth as in Morrowind, and Nervarine didn't kill the Telvanni leaders.
I think i can teach you a thing or two (shit he's still looking at me quick neloth do something smart,cmon think think,AHHH I GOT IT) *Casts candlelight*
@@jacobnicola5950 i usually grab that line of spells because i use darkness mods and having a torch in one hand and some other spell in the other in vr is hugely detrimental
Everyone in TES is so welcoming giving you a lecture on the origins and history of their houses instead of, you know, blasting you on sight for breaking and entering
Neloth is the exact kind of Dunmer to flex on you by telling you exactly why he's the greatest thing since sliced bread instead of shoving a Fireball so far up your rear end you become a dragon
I love how Savos would have to pay to be an apprentice but neloth doesnt imply the dragonborn would pay for an apprenticeship, its almost as if he recognized your achievments
Well basically Savos did nothing of note his whole time as Archmage (which is why he gets a bit of flak from a few of the other college mages), while you made one of the greatest magical discoveries in Tamriel in over a century after only just joining the college, then save the entire province of Skyrim, if not possibly the entire continent, from the fallout of said discovery, securing your position as the newest (and possibly youngest ever) Archmage of the college in record time. You're so interesting that the Psijic Order personally took and interest you and chose you as the savior of the college, out of every one there, and the mages of EVERY faction revere and/or respect the Psijic Order, even if not everyone trusts them. I wouldn't be surprised if Neloth is also aware that you're the prophecied Dragonborn, which even without being a mage, makes you a powerful being of great interest to many.
@@Jaimyoutubingneloth hasn't stated anything about the player being dragonborn at this point, however it's likely he pieced it together directly after your first encounter with him at the earth stone.
He also isn't fully fleshed out and I feel a lot of dialogue was to lead to qu sta where he taught you and you got new spells. Doesn't he teach enchanting as well?
@@Jaimyoutubing canonically the dragonborn only does the main quest and dlc, so he actually wouldn't be aware of you being the archmage, but the last dragonborn, yes.
@@Jaimyoutubing That and even if you weren't dragonborn to possess and wield the thu'um is an incredibly rare feat. Thus there is much he could potentially learn from you as well if you were to be his apprentice.
@@Jaimyoutubing The only other Telvanni wizard more powerful than Neloth. Don't really know what happened to him after Morrowind and Red mountains eruption.
@@atranzjoker "Look at my home, and count the number of planks of wood used in its construction. That is the number of fucks I give, little Dragon-whatever."
I like how he seems super cocky (which he is) and appears to have a massive ego (which he does) but he's genuinely spot on about his abilities, I love Neloth he's one of my favourite elder scrolls characters
There is something I always like about someome being insainely egotystical but its 100% justified by their skill. I wanma be mad but I really cant, its just impressive. A good example wpuld be the worlds fastest quickdraw, dude comes off as a a masaive ego rodden asshole, them he shoots and you realise he is incredibly humble.
I hear "that's impressive" and I take that tiny dollop of praise from him and gobble it right down. I expected him to say something far sassier and cutting and I agree, the College of Winterhold is a bit of a joke at the moment. I wish they would have put more effort into it so we could have started repairing the college after the questline was over.
That really would have been nice. Plus it could have given quests to to help repair the damages to the Winterhold town itself too, like maybe helping with the mage reputation because of it
+Milan Milacic You must have had more magicka available than me, I know the spell but my character's reserves are too small to actually cast it. Not that I haven't been levitating, mind you. I found a steel dagger with a levitation enchantment in one of the Vivec sewers, think it was under the Arena. I have literally never struck an enemy with it despite running short blade as a major skill, I solely use it for levitation. Mostly around Vivec, makes travel between neighboring districts and compounds so easy. ESPECIALLY to and from the Foreign Quarter, which has no upper level bridge whatsoever. Probably intentional given the local xenophobia but still, dick move on whoever build the place.
Holy fucking shit. I watched that show all the time back in the day and have played this game since release and never noticed that. I'll mever unhear it. Especially when he gives shit to his apprentice.
You might think that him casting candlelight is a pathetic show of skill on his part, but he's actually roasting the shit out of you by implying that candlelight is an adequate spell to teach to a mage of your level.
Candlelight is one of the most useful spells' bro. Torches are pretty useless and fucking dangerous in a serious fight because one of your hand would be blocked. Candlelight on the other hand gives you light, and you can use ALL your weapons.
Neloth : You're the archmage ? Yeah cool, you can become my apprentice in twenty years I guess. *~uses candlelight~* Dragonborn : *~giggles~* Candlelight? Really? Neloth : Yes, why? Dragonborn : I'm THE almighty Archmage, seeing you using that low level spell is ... well, disappointing to say the least haha! Neloth : You're using a torch. Dragonborn : Yeah so I can see in the dar- ... oh. Neloth : You're using a torch Mister Archmage. In a giant organic tower full of ancient books and staves, on a dry island. Dragonborn : ... Neloth : I'll see you in twenty years.
Say what you will about Neloth, but letting him take out everything that breathed even slightly disrespectfully in and around that Dwemer ruin you travel through with him (up until the point where he just stands around and waits on you) was a real load off. Competence is a highly valuable resource.
Neloth is such an awesome character tbh, easily one of the best in the game He's arrogant beyond belief, but he does actually have the skill and knowledge to back it up Its also kinda cool that he grows to respect you as time goes on, even making you a honorary member of House Telvanni, effectively making the player Morrowind royalty And , even though he treats his apprentices and staff like crap at first glance, it becomes clear he's not as heartless as a first impression would lead you to believe
Lore wise, neloth isnt arrogant at all. Telvanni wizards really are that powerful. The in universe explanation for why you could be so unbelievably overpowered as a mage in morrowind is due to the skills of the telvanni and mages in morrowind in general
All the experience and natural talent of High Elven archmages... *And no rules.* Just an anarchist commune where tricking and killing your way to the top is encouraged.
@@JoshSweetvale To be fair, their philosophy does grant their desired effects. Only the strongest and smartest lead and make it to positions of power. The downside is the highly predatory nature of life means everyone is very long lived with little to no children.
@@Sehtlimbo Idk about that, the power of the Thu’um ain’t something to be trifled with. Combine that with his Daedric artifacts, his dragonscale armor and his ability to have personal dragon bodyguards, one of whom literally cannot die, and I think the Nerevarine might be in for one hell of a fight that would probably shatter whatever province they were fighting in.
To be fair about him casting candle light I think he was more or less flexing on you like "Holding a torch, why hold anything when you can just do this, and not deal with smoke constantly"
He IS a high level conjuration trainer, and according to him most of what he's learnt as an apprentice has been from observation rather than any actual instruction on Neloth's part, which means he's teaching himself. We first meet him screwing up a high level spell but that is only because of a caveat most other spells simply do not have and he technically did manage to cast it anyway. It's likely that he is in fact very good at the theory and understanding of magic along with possessing raw talent, he's just not very wise or practiced.
@@zigzaghyena Exactly, he is supposed to be a young apprentice relatively new to magic yet he is casting Expert and Master level conjuration spells. The giy could probably be the new master of conjuration in the college of winterhold with that aptitude and likely be one of if not the best in Skyrim, but to Neloth he is just a apprentice. If he is supposed to be young and inexperienced amd could do all that, imagine what he could do after a few decades of learning from Neloth? Also the fact that its just a few decades, to learn what normally takes people lifetimes. Neloth is implying that he has the aptitude to only need months to years to learn what takes others decades.
Behold the Archmage of Winterhold: a barbarian who hates magic and only got into the college because it was the only way to open a path to a legendary amulet, and after a series of unfortunate events, he found himself as the Archmage while barely being able to cast Candle Light.
Man, I would have loved to see Divayth Fyr in the game. That guy was the ultimate Sigma Male Grindset before the memes. As in he's over 4000 years old because magic, collects daedric artifacts as a hobby, and has 4 daughter-wives who are all genderbent clones of himself and are simply numbered.
@@LadyLexyStarwatcher Fun fact: According to lore, he turned his tower into a teleporting demiplane that he can just plop down where ever he wants. So yea, he straight up said "Nah, fuck this ash."
He's so adorable, the way he gets so excited when he belittles Savos gets me every time, yes Neloth, you are the greatest wizard who has ever lived we know and we hate you yes yes did you take your medications
@@tysej4 Well, I am in doubt, Fyr presence in a Plane of Oblivion is enough to raise alarm to the Prince who owns it, Like, if we enter a Plane, we are a ant, you may or may not feel a ant crawling in your body, but Fyr, is a Giant Spider that cannot be ignored, he can even fight Prince in their own Realm, and a Daedric Prince is almost all powerful in their realm. The vestige did the same thing to Molag Bal in ESO, but they had help of Meridia and Akatosh, and Fyr can do it alone.
@@samuelfilho8317 He has not fought a Daedric prince and won. He has tricked one several times. And has a tendency to fairly freely wander various daedric realms. Primarily Mehrune Dagon's realm. Has stolen Mehrunes Razor in the past. As well as other knick-knacks. He's a powerful Wizard, maybe the greatest in the 3rd Era, and I say maybe because lore hints at ancient Altmer Wizards on Summerset that is supposedly greater. Or like the Maormer King. But beyond being an immensely powerful wizard he's also.. Just really f***'ing smart. Studied the Dwemer, has probably the deepest understanding of their machinery. Coupled with great knowledge of the daedric realms. And knows much experimental magic. All of that screams power. But I believe there are Mer with more raw power. I doubt they could defeat Fyr, as he'd be able to avoid any such encounter or even stack the odds in his favor. But I don't think that lore wise he's the most powerful there ever was. Even during parts of his life-time.
@@tysej4 His clone Wife daughters say the only ones that maybe could be more powerful/Older than him are some mages on Summerset isles and the Divine Sorcerers(The Tribunal), great part of that is because Fyr does not concerne himself with Power or Politics, only with Knowledge. Say... did you see the Lore expansion of the dead lands DLC of ESO?
"I think I could teach you a trick or two," Neloth says to the Archmage of a famous magic college, as he skillfully casts a novice level alteration spell. Nobody can compete with this power.
The arch mage gasped in surprise for he actually had no idea how to use magic or even what magic was as, shockingly, he managed to get the position by charging through some power tripping elf with a shield before bludgeoning them with a mace
Dunmer would've demanded our ass tossed out of his mushroom and prolly would've casted a spell to do it halfway through yelling at us with genuine anger and fear. Considering having the Blackened Azura's Star is a literal middle finger to her, it's hard not to want to put as much distance between you and the instigator.
Neloth is my favorite character in Skyrim full stop. Nobody is as hilarious to listen to or as able to back up their talk like him He reminds me of Seto Kaiba.
@@sg-hunter "The Dragonborn Comes" as performed by Malukah over on her channel. See: the 1:11 mark from her video th-cam.com/video/8rg2vkz72a8/w-d-xo.html
@@Cadriul I guess it technically isn't since it's the outro music and they haven't tried to pass it off as their own work. That being said the polite thing to do would be to put a link to her channel in the description
Hey hey hey! What mod do you use to make Skyrim so colourful and vibrant? I'm so tired of grey and bleak everywhere in Skyrim. Please tell me what visual mod you use for the colours
He is kinda a master wizard.when we visited the dwarven ruin he downed a dragon with little problem all by himself with lightning attacks.he's not like others who run up to it with their fists and start punching
What is funny is that someone actually hacked the system to force Neloth and Savos to fight against each other using the stats they naturally have, and Neloth got his ashy ass handed to him by Savos. 😂There is a reason why Savos is Archmage... he is no push over, and unlike Neloth , Savos can actually conjure beings from Oblivion. He conjure both a Flame and Storm atrinoch during that fight. 😳If Neloth was an actual challenge, Savos would and could conjure two Dremora Lords to fight for him if he wanted to. Throughout that fight, Neloth was using adapt spells while Savos was using expert destruction spells and even master level conjuration spells. So every time I hear Neloth speak, all I could think of was that time Savos got him on his knees using expert lighting spells. 😂
Yes but that is game wise. Not lore wise to say neloth would lose. He is older than savos and has more experience. I honestly think lore wise savos wouldn't stand a chance against neloth.
@@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски Most definitely. He mentions this when you take care of his old apprentice that he’s had to fight off and has many enemies back home.
I mean considering in Morrowind you can basically fly with enough levitate and acrobatics and turn people into statues through mega paralysis and melt them alive i suppose no Telvanni would be very impressed by some guy who can like.. cast a light really well lol.
I just realized Neloth has the same va as Bodahn from the dragon age series which really funny because they are like completely polar opposite characters in every way
Neloth is well over 800 years old by the time the dragonborn meets him.. Neloth is only surpassed by Divayth Fyr who was born more than 4000 years ago.
It's extremely stupid that Bethesda removed one of my favourite guild features from Morrowind: You can only advance in rank by increasing your skills and attributes related to said guild so in this case it's Intelligence and Willpower attributes and all the magic skills. However in Oblivion and Skyrim you don't even need any skill to be past level 5 and you can easily become the Arch-Mage/guild leader. Imagine an Orc brute who only knows a heal spell and a fire spell being the Arch-Mage of the College Of Winterhold lmao.
He reminds me a lot of Calcemo in Markarth. And maybe Ancano. Exactly how much of their ability or knowledge is bluff, and how much is legit? Either way, it gives the game some flavor to have personalities like this.
On that note, the Auger of Dunlain is worth mentioning. I think his magical prowess, or at least the result, shows a much grander affinity for magic than just about any spellcaster in the game. The dude got turned into a ball of energy!
Me as a newbie: Magic is the way to go. Me as a veteran of Legendary difficulty: Now I just slip this concoction of Imp Stool, Daedra Venin,and Scathecraw into someone's inventory and watch them go stiff as a board and dead before they finish falling over.
Neloth "can you spell candlelight ?" "I'm Fat Hat Logan I learn Seath scaleless pale dragon sorcery, and I can Spell The Only One Cristal Soul Spear in your head, ok?"
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Considering how easy it is to become the Arch-mage, Neloth's reactions is very fitting.
Not really
You have to understand, Dovahkiin is extremely powerful and their skill is unfathomable. A prodigy in literally everything they do
Remember all the trained mages in Labyrinthian who perished, only for us to do it casually and alone in record time 😅
The quest line is quite short lol
@@danielendless I agree it seems like a joke at first but your basically a demigod he knows if he can tie you to the organization it will florish even if magic is just your hobby
I remember the first time I became archmage I did it with a heavy armor two handed orc build all the enemies like using anti magic bullshit I didn't even have to acknowledge because I tanked though of course I didn't play legendary at the time soo
@@kellynolen498 it is a role playing game, and it should be played that way. Given how you described your character, it seems it doesn't make any sense for him to be involved in that questline anyway.
@@servus_incognitus well I wanted all the things why not learn magic and the blade? I went to the college to learn magic of course
well at least the first playthrough I see what you mean
but they should have had a proper speech acknowledging certain facts like if you haven't even reached master or expert level in any spell
or they could have really leaned into how fast you learn because honestly what took years of study for them takes a few dungeon crawls of combat inspiration or a just a lecture from a trainer
you see mages do amazing things in the elder scrolls games but all you can do is cast a few spells you found or bought the rest of the collage is researching there own unique invention and spells and you just copy them
in Skyrim the disparity gets me to much
"I'm the Arch mage of the college of Winterhold."
"Oh really? Let me cast a spell to help find out who asked."
hahahahaah xD
Golden frieza tier comment
he casted candlelight to help him find those who asked in the dark
“Let me cast clairvoyance to see who asked” *No direct path seen*
@@themessiah8365 did you cast transmute cause you made this comment section from silver to gold
Neloth: *casts candlelight*
Whiterun Guard: So you can cast a few spells. Am I supposed to be impressed?
Neloth: Whats a king to a God
Whiterun guard: whats a god to a non believer
Ha ha ha, it's funny because I did say that.
Someone steal your sweetroll, master Telvanni?
I like to think it was a joke.
Go cast your fancy magic someplace else
Neloth: “I am a master wizard of unimaginable aptitude!”
Also Neloth: ~*~casts candlelight~*~
😹😹😹
hey, even the simplest spells are useful
Candle light is the best spell ever
Candlelight is useful to a mage of any skill level. It's like grabbing a torch.
The dovamage uses an ordinary torch. Dont assume masters need to flex their strongest most expensive spells to do simple tasks.
If Neloth says Savos has a knack for wards you can be confident that Savos' wards are impenetrable.
Which now begs to question if his death was negligence to cast the ward, or if Ancano's meddling with the EoM was too power for even Savos to protect himself against
@@MellowDarkflower maybe he didn't have time to raise one?
Probably did cast a ward to protect the college but died for it. That's my headcanon at least.
@@wolfgod6443 It makes sense
Yayyy! I'm happy I'm not the only one with a headcanon that Savos died protecting the College & Winterhold! :D
Neloth: So your Archmage, How many spells did you cast to claim that meager title?
Ymfah: What's a spell?
I believe there are only THREE points in the entire college quest where magic is required... first to get into the place, but I think you can also shout to prove you have magic if you don't have money to even buy the scroll from the guard. Demonstrating a ward during the one class you attend. Then once to knock down a wall when you get trapped behind the bars in the old ruin, I think any magic will break it.
And, as with every guild in Oblivion & Skyrim, once you're named the leader, your presence isn't even necessary afterwards. You can ignore the place & they'll still run smoothly. And yes, 99% of players probably only join out of necessity as going after an amulet requires admission to enter that one ruin & I believe Dawnguard has a segment that involves talking to someone inside... though that might be optional & only needs admittance to the building.
@@diosoth Actually I think you can skip the ward class too by walking out lol
@@OneEyedCloud01 you kill someone unimportant and hide for 24 hours, then come back.
The class will be skipped, and that also unlocks the gates to the college if you glitched yourself into it.
@@puppy_pope I think you can also use spellbreaker, the shield from the peryite quest to trick the game into thinking you cast a ward
@@diosoth Harkon wants to screw around with nature on a mess up level and you can get the vampire lord form from Serana anytime at the end of the questline even if you have joined the Dawnguard.
Well Isran is an ass but they've got fancy enhanced dwarven crossbows with fitting bolts so you can get crossbows and be a vampire lord if you whish so.
Win-win for me 👌
He's cruel and arrogant, but I can't say no to him. He's just so awesome
I agree hahah, he’s such a good character even though he’s a dick
There are two types of arrogance. Normal arrogance and arrogance backed with skills and experience. He has the second type, so despite him being a dick it's hard not to respect him
As are many Mer. We have great Pride and Standards within ourselves
@@Krokmaniak
Precisely, such is the way of many esteemed Mer
@@thalmoragent9344 That's not because he's an elf, It's because he's Telvanni that he's that way. The Telvanni wizard lords all have eternal lives because of their deals with deadra. They've had thousands of years to learn Magic so they think no one can match them. This is obviusly assuming this is the same Master Neloth as in Morrowind, and Nervarine didn't kill the Telvanni leaders.
I think i can teach you a thing or two
(shit he's still looking at me quick neloth do something smart,cmon think think,AHHH I GOT IT)
*Casts candlelight*
Sometimes I shit my pants with him because I think he wants to attack me
I think he just insults you with his spell of choice...
@@michasokoowski6651 the simple trick he thinks that college can't teach correctly
the funny thing is: most of our characters, even if they are mages, probably doesn't know candlelight.
@@jacobnicola5950 i usually grab that line of spells because i use darkness mods and having a torch in one hand and some other spell in the other in vr is hugely detrimental
dragonborn: i am the archmage
neloth: i missed the part where that's my problem
Dovahkiin : I am the archmage
Neloth : Who?
Dovahkiin : Me-
Neloth : Cares
Dovahkiin: imma put some dirt in ur eye
@@ByrgenworthGraduate Neloth: Imma put your eye in some dirt
@@JustMike_Official Neloth is the only one who can get the last word in with the Dragonborn.
Dragonborn: give me respect
Neloth: you'll get your respect when you fix this damn door!!
Me: "I-"
Neloth: "I literally do not give a shit."
Everyone in TES is so welcoming giving you a lecture on the origins and history of their houses instead of, you know, blasting you on sight for breaking and entering
Neloth is the exact kind of Dunmer to flex on you by telling you exactly why he's the greatest thing since sliced bread instead of shoving a Fireball so far up your rear end you become a dragon
I love how Savos would have to pay to be an apprentice but neloth doesnt imply the dragonborn would pay for an apprenticeship, its almost as if he recognized your achievments
Well basically Savos did nothing of note his whole time as Archmage (which is why he gets a bit of flak from a few of the other college mages), while you made one of the greatest magical discoveries in Tamriel in over a century after only just joining the college, then save the entire province of Skyrim, if not possibly the entire continent, from the fallout of said discovery, securing your position as the newest (and possibly youngest ever) Archmage of the college in record time. You're so interesting that the Psijic Order personally took and interest you and chose you as the savior of the college, out of every one there, and the mages of EVERY faction revere and/or respect the Psijic Order, even if not everyone trusts them. I wouldn't be surprised if Neloth is also aware that you're the prophecied Dragonborn, which even without being a mage, makes you a powerful being of great interest to many.
@@Jaimyoutubingneloth hasn't stated anything about the player being dragonborn at this point, however it's likely he pieced it together directly after your first encounter with him at the earth stone.
He also isn't fully fleshed out and I feel a lot of dialogue was to lead to qu sta where he taught you and you got new spells.
Doesn't he teach enchanting as well?
@@Jaimyoutubing canonically the dragonborn only does the main quest and dlc, so he actually wouldn't be aware of you being the archmage, but the last dragonborn, yes.
@@Jaimyoutubing That and even if you weren't dragonborn to possess and wield the thu'um is an incredibly rare feat. Thus there is much he could potentially learn from you as well if you were to be his apprentice.
Neloth: "i think i could teach you a trick or two"
Game: "candlelight added"
When a Telvanni master says something you did was impressive then you really did do something impressive!
Oh man, imagine managing to impress Divayth! I wish he appeared again after Morrowind.
@@Jaimyoutubing He has several cameos in ESO but i get your point :D
@@darkmagicfan Yeah, but sadly ESO is BEFORE Morrowind in the timeline. And it's an MMO.
@@Jaimyoutubing The only other Telvanni wizard more powerful than Neloth. Don't really know what happened to him after Morrowind and Red mountains eruption.
Tbf Dragonborns are more powerful than you're typical Telvanni Wizard
Neloth: Oh, a Mage from Winterhold, let me cast a spell more your level.
Casts Candlelight
Dragonborn: *summons a bow and kill him with a one shot*
....
Noob.
*Makes him him clip through the map by shouting so hard*
*Starts flying on a bucket*
And Neloth is one of the less eccentric Telvanni wizards.
and also less powerful. He was kinda trash back in Morrowind.
@@bierwolf8360 Yeah, but I guess he's meant to be more like a scholar than a practicing wizard.
@@bierwolf8360 That was also hundreds of years ago.
He doesn't have a dwarf
@@AntonsVoice You can't just set Divayth Fyr as the standard XD
My favorite dialogue with Neloth is asking him for training in enchantment when you've already maxed it out
"Cant have you be better than me now, could i?"
Dovahkiin: "I'm the Archmage of--"
Neloth: "And that's supposed to mean WHAT to me?"
I love that "college that's falling into the Sea of Ghosts" line. Because it really is.
I slayed Alduin, killed Miraak, Kill a vampire lord, burned the emperor. defeat dragon priest... I also has museum on my all achievements.
@@atranzjoker "Look at my home, and count the number of planks of wood used in its construction. That is the number of fucks I give, little Dragon-whatever."
I like how he seems super cocky (which he is) and appears to have a massive ego (which he does) but he's genuinely spot on about his abilities, I love Neloth he's one of my favourite elder scrolls characters
Telvanni wizards always have an ego of a dragon and also have enough power to back it up.
Powerfully arrogant is probably one of the best character tropes next to honorably powerful
There is something I always like about someome being insainely egotystical but its 100% justified by their skill. I wanma be mad but I really cant, its just impressive.
A good example wpuld be the worlds fastest quickdraw, dude comes off as a a masaive ego rodden asshole, them he shoots and you realise he is incredibly humble.
I hear "that's impressive" and I take that tiny dollop of praise from him and gobble it right down. I expected him to say something far sassier and cutting and I agree, the College of Winterhold is a bit of a joke at the moment. I wish they would have put more effort into it so we could have started repairing the college after the questline was over.
That really would have been nice. Plus it could have given quests to to help repair the damages to the Winterhold town itself too, like maybe helping with the mage reputation because of it
Neloth is one step ahead of arch-mage dovahkiim: he probably has a levitation spell, and you don't.
I mean he was around during morrowind and back then even my character who can barely walk could learn levitate
+Milan Milacic
You must have had more magicka available than me, I know the spell but my character's reserves are too small to actually cast it.
Not that I haven't been levitating, mind you. I found a steel dagger with a levitation enchantment in one of the Vivec sewers, think it was under the Arena.
I have literally never struck an enemy with it despite running short blade as a major skill, I solely use it for levitation. Mostly around Vivec, makes travel between neighboring districts and compounds so easy. ESPECIALLY to and from the Foreign Quarter, which has no upper level bridge whatsoever. Probably intentional given the local xenophobia but still, dick move on whoever build the place.
Idk about that one dovakin can use op shouts
@@redeye4516 probably Vivec
I mean if you ever played Morrowind, you couldn't even properly explore most Telvanni towers without a levitation spell or a potion of levitation.
Just realized that Neloth and Muung Daal share the same voice actor.
“Schniztel, fetch me my alchemy book”
and he is mad dog Murdock from The A-Team, therefore a telvanni since ever.
Schnitzel: "Rada rada."
Holy fucking shit.
I watched that show all the time back in the day and have played this game since release and never noticed that.
I'll mever unhear it. Especially when he gives shit to his apprentice.
"Where is that clumsy apprentice of mine? Chowdah! Oh no, wait. The show's over."
You might think that him casting candlelight is a pathetic show of skill on his part, but he's actually roasting the shit out of you by implying that candlelight is an adequate spell to teach to a mage of your level.
Any mage who needs a torch clearly needs to learn Candlelight.
Candlelight is one of the most useful spells' bro.
Torches are pretty useless and fucking dangerous in a serious fight because one of your hand would be blocked.
Candlelight on the other hand gives you light, and you can use ALL your weapons.
Mage of my level?
Bastard doesn't even know lighting storm or blizzard
“I can show you a trick or two”
*creates floating light ball to achieve dominance*
Damnit! The one spell I didn't bother to learn! You win this time, Neloth...
Neloth : You're the archmage ? Yeah cool, you can become my apprentice in twenty years I guess. *~uses candlelight~*
Dragonborn : *~giggles~* Candlelight? Really?
Neloth : Yes, why?
Dragonborn : I'm THE almighty Archmage, seeing you using that low level spell is ... well, disappointing to say the least haha!
Neloth : You're using a torch.
Dragonborn : Yeah so I can see in the dar- ... oh.
Neloth : You're using a torch Mister Archmage. In a giant organic tower full of ancient books and staves, on a dry island.
Dragonborn : ...
Neloth : I'll see you in twenty years.
Ooooo!
Got eem!!!
that's why even my warrior characters learn candlelight
Ahhh sheeet bro
Criminally underrated roast! Needs to go higher!
Say what you will about Neloth, but letting him take out everything that breathed even slightly disrespectfully in and around that Dwemer ruin you travel through with him (up until the point where he just stands around and waits on you) was a real load off. Competence is a highly valuable resource.
I like how he comments on the staff of magnus. He sure loves his staves
Neloth is such an awesome character tbh, easily one of the best in the game
He's arrogant beyond belief, but he does actually have the skill and knowledge to back it up
Its also kinda cool that he grows to respect you as time goes on, even making you a honorary member of House Telvanni, effectively making the player Morrowind royalty
And , even though he treats his apprentices and staff like crap at first glance, it becomes clear he's not as heartless as a first impression would lead you to believe
Simply being a member of a house doesn’t make one royalty
Lore wise, neloth isnt arrogant at all. Telvanni wizards really are that powerful. The in universe explanation for why you could be so unbelievably overpowered as a mage in morrowind is due to the skills of the telvanni and mages in morrowind in general
All the experience and natural talent of High Elven archmages... *And no rules.* Just an anarchist commune where tricking and killing your way to the top is encouraged.
@@JoshSweetvale To be fair, their philosophy does grant their desired effects. Only the strongest and smartest lead and make it to positions of power.
The downside is the highly predatory nature of life means everyone is very long lived with little to no children.
your stronger then the morrowind character tho
@@reggielacey2235 the nerevarine would absolutely body the Dragonborn. It’s no contest.
@@Sehtlimbo Idk about that, the power of the Thu’um ain’t something to be trifled with. Combine that with his Daedric artifacts, his dragonscale armor and his ability to have personal dragon bodyguards, one of whom literally cannot die, and I think the Nerevarine might be in for one hell of a fight that would probably shatter whatever province they were fighting in.
To be fair about him casting candle light I think he was more or less flexing on you like
"Holding a torch, why hold anything when you can just do this, and not deal with smoke constantly"
Love how he asserted dominance by casting a candlelight spell.
Makes you wonder what Talvas had done to convince Neloth to be his apprentice
He IS a high level conjuration trainer, and according to him most of what he's learnt as an apprentice has been from observation rather than any actual instruction on Neloth's part, which means he's teaching himself. We first meet him screwing up a high level spell but that is only because of a caveat most other spells simply do not have and he technically did manage to cast it anyway. It's likely that he is in fact very good at the theory and understanding of magic along with possessing raw talent, he's just not very wise or practiced.
I literally hunted for this comment. Why is no one else asking this? 😂
@@zigzaghyena Exactly, he is supposed to be a young apprentice relatively new to magic yet he is casting Expert and Master level conjuration spells. The giy could probably be the new master of conjuration in the college of winterhold with that aptitude and likely be one of if not the best in Skyrim, but to Neloth he is just a apprentice.
If he is supposed to be young and inexperienced amd could do all that, imagine what he could do after a few decades of learning from Neloth?
Also the fact that its just a few decades, to learn what normally takes people lifetimes. Neloth is implying that he has the aptitude to only need months to years to learn what takes others decades.
Btw, Talvas can teach your conjuration up to 90, while conjuration master in the College can only do it up to 75.
Neloth: He isn't fit to be my apprentice
*Two seconds later*
Neloth: I'd be willing to take him on as my apprentice
Difference is he’d be it not cause he had potential. But cause he pays him by the hour.
Behold the Archmage of Winterhold: a barbarian who hates magic and only got into the college because it was the only way to open a path to a legendary amulet, and after a series of unfortunate events, he found himself as the Archmage while barely being able to cast Candle Light.
Man, I would have loved to see Divayth Fyr in the game. That guy was the ultimate Sigma Male Grindset before the memes. As in he's over 4000 years old because magic, collects daedric artifacts as a hobby, and has 4 daughter-wives who are all genderbent clones of himself and are simply numbered.
And he has an entire lab filled with corprus guys and the last living dwarf. What a chad.
He's probably still living comfortably on Vvardenfell in his tower. Knowing him he could probably stop all the ash and lava easy.
@@LadyLexyStarwatcher Fun fact: According to lore, he turned his tower into a teleporting demiplane that he can just plop down where ever he wants. So yea, he straight up said "Nah, fuck this ash."
He's so adorable, the way he gets so excited when he belittles Savos gets me every time, yes Neloth, you are the greatest wizard who has ever lived we know and we hate you yes yes did you take your medications
Divayth Fyr was the greatest of all time without counting living Gods.
@@acentialpapd9418 don't get me wrong divayth fyr was great but the lore has wizards who outclassed him, mannimarco is more powerful lore wise
@@tysej4 Well, I am in doubt, Fyr presence in a Plane of Oblivion is enough to raise alarm to the Prince who owns it, Like, if we enter a Plane, we are a ant, you may or may not feel a ant crawling in your body, but Fyr, is a Giant Spider that cannot be ignored, he can even fight Prince in their own Realm, and a Daedric Prince is almost all powerful in their realm. The vestige did the same thing to Molag Bal in ESO, but they had help of Meridia and Akatosh, and Fyr can do it alone.
@@samuelfilho8317 He has not fought a Daedric prince and won. He has tricked one several times. And has a tendency to fairly freely wander various daedric realms. Primarily Mehrune Dagon's realm.
Has stolen Mehrunes Razor in the past. As well as other knick-knacks.
He's a powerful Wizard, maybe the greatest in the 3rd Era, and I say maybe because lore hints at ancient Altmer Wizards on Summerset that is supposedly greater.
Or like the Maormer King.
But beyond being an immensely powerful wizard he's also.. Just really f***'ing smart. Studied the Dwemer, has probably the deepest understanding of their machinery.
Coupled with great knowledge of the daedric realms.
And knows much experimental magic.
All of that screams power. But I believe there are Mer with more raw power. I doubt they could defeat Fyr, as he'd be able to avoid any such encounter or even stack the odds in his favor.
But I don't think that lore wise he's the most powerful there ever was. Even during parts of his life-time.
@@tysej4 His clone Wife daughters say the only ones that maybe could be more powerful/Older than him are some mages on Summerset isles and the Divine Sorcerers(The Tribunal), great part of that is because Fyr does not concerne himself with Power or Politics, only with Knowledge. Say... did you see the Lore expansion of the dead lands DLC of ESO?
"I think I could teach you a trick or two," Neloth says to the Archmage of a famous magic college, as he skillfully casts a novice level alteration spell. Nobody can compete with this power.
The arch mage gasped in surprise for he actually had no idea how to use magic or even what magic was as, shockingly, he managed to get the position by charging through some power tripping elf with a shield before bludgeoning them with a mace
The way he says "Impressive...." sounds like we had just lowered his self esteem.
Goddamit, now I feel bad
I will return to neloth in the 20th skyrim anniversary as his apprentice
I remember the first time I got this line
Meeting Neloth I thought he was kinda obnoxious, but he quickly became one of my favourite characters
Thanks for this support enchanted robe, here is literally 10 gold... love you neloth
In morrowind they gave the best rewards. High quality magic items.
"You may be a master wizard, but do you have this?" **holds Black Star**
"Oh...oh no..."
Dunmer would've demanded our ass tossed out of his mushroom and prolly would've casted a spell to do it halfway through yelling at us with genuine anger and fear. Considering having the Blackened Azura's Star is a literal middle finger to her, it's hard not to want to put as much distance between you and the instigator.
Easily one of the best characters in all of The Elder Scrolls.
Remember that this is the same dude who wants to take Miraak as his apprentice.
Neloth is my favorite character in Skyrim full stop. Nobody is as hilarious to listen to or as able to back up their talk like him
He reminds me of Seto Kaiba.
It's times like this that I fully understand the attitude of that one guard who doesn't care if you can do some fancy magic.
I usually quicksave and then either paralyze or berserk the poor sod.
That song at the end. Sounded familure. Of course you'd never steal another youtubers work
Might need to disli- ah, right
Whats the name of the song?
@@sg-hunter "The Dragonborn Comes" as performed by Malukah over on her channel.
See: the 1:11 mark from her video
th-cam.com/video/8rg2vkz72a8/w-d-xo.html
I’m not sure using a few second clip of a fan made version of a song is stealing..
@@Cadriul I guess it technically isn't since it's the outro music and they haven't tried to pass it off as their own work. That being said the polite thing to do would be to put a link to her channel in the description
I actually like this dude. His sarcasm is funny lol
At 1:02 he almost sounds sad when he says “impressive”. Maybe he was planning on getting the staff himself but the dovahkiin beat him to it.
Neloth: castes candlelight
dragonborn: weird flex but ok
I can imagine Neloth saying something like "What? Too advanced for you?"
@@raziel6304 (out of nowhere he casts a jump spell and jumps across the island)
My favorite character in existence
*"I could teach you a trick or two"*
Proceeds to make lame firework fart come out his sleeves
Hey hey hey! What mod do you use to make Skyrim so colourful and vibrant? I'm so tired of grey and bleak everywhere in Skyrim.
Please tell me what visual mod you use for the colours
ENB ( www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4796 )
@@TIMENGGG thanks a lot :))
I mean, to be fair, the you can become Archmage of the College of Winterhold with basically zero magical aptitude, so Neloth has a point...
I like to think Neloth casted candlelight as an example of one or two spells he was going to teach the arch mage xD
Dk: did you know I'm archmage of winterhold
Neloth: really...let's me just summon the daedric Lords of whogivesafuck.
Neloth: cast candlelight
Dragonborne: but I’ve already learned that…
He’s doing that to find who asked
Ah yes, wards... the only spell you learn at the college
It's possible to impress Neloth, though. Just read the Oghma Infinium before the Miraak quest and tell him, he'll actually be surprised.
"I think I could teach you a trick or two"
*casts level 1 alteration spell*
Neloth: So you're Archmage of the College of Winterhold?
Dragonborn: Yes but I only know how to cast flames and frostbite spell
He is kinda a master wizard.when we visited the dwarven ruin he downed a dragon with little problem all by himself with lightning attacks.he's not like others who run up to it with their fists and start punching
So, I'm guessing that's the future of the new Archmage, to be come Neloth's student and become a Telvanni wizard.
He's right not to be impressed since you can become archmage without learning or using a single spell
He: I can teach u a trick or two
Also he after 1 sec: casts candlelight crouching 😂
I like to think Neloth casts candlelight everytime he roasts someone
Neloth is pure gold I love him
A compliment from Neloth is more of a rarity then finding random daedra.
They should add an extra dialogue option if you have maxed out any of the magic trees
So funny he's voiced by the guy who played Lieutenant Barclay on Star Trek.
So is the guy who meets you on the pier when you first arrive in Raven Rock
"Ah! He wouldn't be fit to be my apprentice".
In all fairness, when do we see Savos fight?
that one time he walked into an explosion of pure destructive magika resulting in his death
@@yep1486 he didn't fight.. he just walked into a trap, like a rookie.
@@tribaldefender473 I mean, he fough with words (but unfortunatly words don't apply to elfs)
more like "when do we see Savos cast a spell ?"...
@@dearcastiel4667 when he tried to break the big ward of Arcano, the ice version of Breton's starter spell
I wish we got to hear him talk about the other Telvanni more. I'd love to see his reaction to bringing up a character like Divayth Fyr
I like the end
He is like "yeah i made a ball of light and you didnt"
What is funny is that someone actually hacked the system to force Neloth and Savos to fight against each other using the stats they naturally have, and Neloth got his ashy ass handed to him by Savos. 😂There is a reason why Savos is Archmage... he is no push over, and unlike Neloth , Savos can actually conjure beings from Oblivion. He conjure both a Flame and Storm atrinoch during that fight. 😳If Neloth was an actual challenge, Savos would and could conjure two Dremora Lords to fight for him if he wanted to. Throughout that fight, Neloth was using adapt spells while Savos was using expert destruction spells and even master level conjuration spells. So every time I hear Neloth speak, all I could think of was that time Savos got him on his knees using expert lighting spells. 😂
Yes but that is game wise. Not lore wise to say neloth would lose. He is older than savos and has more experience. I honestly think lore wise savos wouldn't stand a chance against neloth.
@Stephen Rock Not just alive. He was old. Aren is around a century or two in age and may have been alive then. But neloth was already an old Dunmer
@@TheNecroFisherman Old enough to consider 1000 year old dunmer "children"
@@TheNecroFisherman And you know how Telvanni society functions. At this point Neloth night have had to defend himself from an ambitious rival or two.
@@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски Most definitely. He mentions this when you take care of his old apprentice that he’s had to fight off and has many enemies back home.
“I think I could teach you a trick or two”
/casts magelight
Truly neloth is the greatest of wizards.
Neloth: [poses like a bawss] [casts candlelight]
I mean considering in Morrowind you can basically fly with enough levitate and acrobatics and turn people into statues through mega paralysis and melt them alive i suppose no Telvanni would be very impressed by some guy who can like.. cast a light really well lol.
Cant say he's wrong considering lore-wise he's probably one of the strongest mages.
normally I hate when npc's look down on my character.
But for some reason when Neloth does it, it doesn't bother me. XD
I just realized Neloth has the same va as Bodahn from the dragon age series which really funny because they are like completely polar opposite characters in every way
Neloth is well over 800 years old by the time the dragonborn meets him.. Neloth is only surpassed by Divayth Fyr who was born more than 4000 years ago.
being a dark elf mage, that offer is quite really interesting tbh
"i am the greatest wizard you will ever know"
~ Casts candlelight
He will be speechless if you tell him you read the Obama infinium during the dialog about black books
Neloth being Neloth xDDD I love this guy so much!
“I think I can teach you a thing or two”
Cast candlelight
The Dovahkin is not impressed
Neloth’s just vibin man
It's extremely stupid that Bethesda removed one of my favourite guild features from Morrowind:
You can only advance in rank by increasing your skills and attributes related to said guild so in this case it's Intelligence and Willpower attributes and all the magic skills.
However in Oblivion and Skyrim you don't even need any skill to be past level 5 and you can easily become the Arch-Mage/guild leader.
Imagine an Orc brute who only knows a heal spell and a fire spell being the Arch-Mage of the College Of Winterhold lmao.
Makes sense given how the Telvanni dislike the Mages Guild, so that dislike probably extends to other magic orders as well.
You tell em Mung Daal
"I think I could teach you a trick or two"
*casts magelight*
He reminds me a lot of Calcemo in Markarth. And maybe Ancano. Exactly how much of their ability or knowledge is bluff, and how much is legit? Either way, it gives the game some flavor to have personalities like this.
On that note, the Auger of Dunlain is worth mentioning. I think his magical prowess, or at least the result, shows a much grander affinity for magic than just about any spellcaster in the game. The dude got turned into a ball of energy!
It’s legit he’s been around since Morrowind. Skyrim doesn’t even show off some of the shit he’s capable of.
Neloth never changed a bit, not since the nerevarine era
You can become Arch-Mage in like a week without casting a single spell past the entry exam, it’s really not a great résumé builder
Just grind speech,literally 0 spells learned/casted
The Fact that Savos Aren dies in the Mage Quest line making it so you have to go there before he dies😂
He also has special dialogue if you have completed the septimus quest
Me as a newbie: Magic is the way to go.
Me as a veteran of Legendary difficulty: Now I just slip this concoction of Imp Stool, Daedra Venin,and Scathecraw into someone's inventory and watch them go stiff as a board and dead before they finish falling over.
I really hope Neloth got some skyrim people to go back to Morrowind to see what peak Telvanni was like.
Neloth "can you spell candlelight ?"
"I'm Fat Hat Logan I learn Seath scaleless pale dragon sorcery, and I can Spell The Only One Cristal Soul Spear in your head, ok?"
Telvanni and the Mages Guild hate each other so its not surprising that he's not bending his knee for you.