I would just like to simply point out that Rihanna and Beyoncé both come from Black people. Each one of these ladies has a black mother and a black father, which makes them a black person. I would not categorize them as mixed women . When you come from a black Set of parents that makes you black as well.
@@nurarobinson7789 Thanks for commenting 🤎Beyonce mother is actually mixed and Rihanna’s dad is mixed as well so they are mgm or multi generationally mixed🤎🤎🤎
Rihanna and Beyonce both have millions of dollars and access to professional stylists who help them achieve the looks we see on screen. Buying their products won't give us the same results they achieve. The only silver lining to this trend is seeing natural hair normalized and encouraging other black women to wear their hair as is. We don't need their products to look good.
I've been seeing natural hair everywhere. Haven't you noticed more natural hairstyles on tv? That's why I was confused to read more BW were straightening their hair. Personally, I think BW should wear their hair the way they want, as long as being natural is not looked down upon or demonized.
When it comes to celebrities I feel natural hair is trending but when it comes to influencers I feel like a lot more of them are moving towards relaxers or straight naturals…it’s a weird dynamic going on right now
This is my personal opinion; most celebrities put out these things as a way to gain income without having to constantly act, put out an album, etc. Cause the entertainment business isn't stable and they need another stream of income to live in luxury. If you like the celebrity and want to buy their product that's on you. At the end of the day it's about does the product work. What you want is repeat buyers not 1 time purchasers. And if you really want to target the natural hair community the money is in the styling products. If you can make a curl pop, provide good hold, and/or keep the hair moisturized that's good money.
I’m a Beyoncé fan and I will not be buying her hair products. TGIN works for me and I’m not paying more money for Beyoncé’s expensive products just because she is Beyoncé. I will continue to use what works for me and spend less on hair products.
I completely agree out of all of them Tracee seems the most genuine. I’ve only bought her tools not her products yet but I am definitely considering purchasing some of her products
Before I watch the video, I have to ask: wasn’t it just last month that people were getting relaxers???? And you’re right, I do see natural hair is trending amongst a lot of black girls and women. I think it’s because of the amount of videos I see of black women and girls telling each other to wear their hair. The benefits, inspirations, and realizations of wearing natural hair vs wigs, weaves.
Also, I would like to add, idk why biracial women like Tracee get praised for wearing their hair....like when have biracial women not worn their hair? Even on the show Girlfriends, the two biracial women wore their hair, while the two ACTUAL black woman, had their hair covered, and relaxed. Again the NHM was made for Toni and Maya (black women), so they can love their hair, not Tracee and Lyn (biracial women) who are ignorant to their hair but nonetheless are more acceptable when it comes to wearing their hair. I wouldnt put faith in Tracee's products because she shows her hair, no more than I'd trust a biracial girl off the street telling me her products grew her hair
@@jesusisgodislove9912 What does hair type have to do with my comment? When did I mention hair texture, in general? 🤔 The irony of you saying someone's loud and wrong, when you fit both criteria 😒 Have several seats.
I agree biracial women and women with type 3 have been more acceptable however the original natural hair movement was created for all mixed and black women regardless of hair type and that honestly was apart of the problem. Type 3 hair was placed on a pedestal in the movement leaving women with type 4 hair unrepresented. That’s why on this channel I choose to only highlight type 4 coily hair. Lastly when it comes to Traci products I do understand your perspective but in comparison to Beyonce or Rihanna I definitely would put more trust in hers versus others but even with hers the only product I was willing to try is heat protectant. To add I only trust coily hair creators as well and only tried the heat protectant after I say women with type 4 hair co-signing it because I won’t buy it simply because it’s a woman with type 3 hair saying it works🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Lol, I don't mean to go back and forth, but I remember the original NHM being for BW, but just like everything else that black ppl create other ppl feel entitled to it, and there was a problem with gatekeeping our movement. We were having the same conversations on blogs and youtube about why biracial women felt they were apart of the movement. They came right in, and BW didn't check them like we should have. I was getting dragged back then for speaking out about how they were not a part of the movement, because I knew it would lead to where we are today. But anyways, great discussion 👍🏿
@@bre9328 I don’t mind the dialogue and yes when black women started the NHC they didn’t set any boundaries so mixed women were allowed to be there at the ground floor as well and everyone put their hair on a pedestal losing the original purpose of type 4 hair being embraced 🤎
I feel like these celebrity brands are a bit disingenuous. I feel like they had the chance to do this during the first natural hair movement. It would have meant so much more and be revolutionary and affirming for the black community. Especially they should have had products directed to black hair. I gladly give my money to big conglomerates because at least they know what it takes to make a good enough product for black hair. but clearly these celebs don't care enough.
Good video. I thought I was the only one who thought these hair products from Bey/Rih were way too expensive lol. I will not buy a product just because of the name attached to it.
Donna's Sweet Potato Hair products are soo great! Shampoo, Conditioner makes your hair soft. The Leave in Cream inside a jar is more moisturizing than the bottle leave in... Donna's products are more moisturizing than Tracey Ross and Taraji P Henson. I need to try Beyonce and Riri to see what's the best celebrity products....I hear it's mediocre but I gotta try it on my 3A hair to see 😄
Perhaps if I’m in a splurge-y mood I may one day consider Cecred. For now I’m in the if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it stage of my natural hair care journey. However, I do regularly use and hoard Taraji’s Ultra Chill Serum. I use it for itching for my daughters and I when we have braids, cornrows or for me locs before I cut them. It works like no other anti-itch spray (and I’ve used a TON over the past couple of decades). We all audibly sigh from relief after applying. Nothing is better than a wash day but this gets us through til then.
I'm glad about the truth you pointed out at the 10:15 mark. Most of these haircare lines are not owned by us, even if they were previously created by us. Some of our people love money more than their community unfortunately. It never made sense to me to build your brand and then sellout to someone not of your own people. Most of these blk business owners only finesse our people to support their brands financially until they can cash in. Many of the brands that were never blk owned have all of this blk sounding names and aren't even black, neither do they have black textures. Two blk owned brands tried and true are Lusters and Bonner Brothers. The only other brand I know for sure is blk is Miche Beauty. Those like Aunt whatever or somebody's daughter and momma, african this or that, coils etc. are usually not blk owned. Don't fall for the scam. Do your research and keep your dollars in your own communities where you and yours can rightfully benefit.
I’m constantly amazed how we as black identifying people will wear almost like a badge of honor this need to breakdown BW celebrities motives negatively for their “bag” yet have no problem with all other people supporting their own people. We are a people living/thinking/operating within a microcosm bubble that time and time again is not benefiting us. No wonder we can easily be taken down…
I have used Pattern Beauty, the tight texture products for the past 5 months, and I really like it. I've noticed my hair has way less breakage and more length retention in my trouble areas (the back center of my head and my side edges) than with the plethora of other products that I have used in the past. I even did the wash and go style with it and didn't immediately hate and cover it up for the first time with this product and that was just with the styling cream. Tracee does sell sample packs for each of the products, so if you don't like it, you are not stuck with bottles.
You forgot Gabrielle Union and her hair care line. Lol Anyway pattern is the only celebrity product line I like. Tia mowry’s line is ok. I liked the shampoo’s. Outside of that I have no plans to try Bey’s line , maybe one day I will try Rhianna’s but I doubt it. I like what I use already so no need to try anything else. Good vid to have a discussion on.
People should stop falling for any of these cash grabs: Tracee’s products didn’t grow her hair, and they don’t grow your hair. It’s called genetics 🙄 Rihanna’s hair is like everyone else’s, it doesn’t look healthy. Why would I buy anything from her? Beyoncé, I love you boo…but she has also always had long hair. To Beyonce’s credit her mom is an actual licensed hair stylist. So her products probably had a lot of input from Tina. Donna is the only person who actually wears her natural hair (outside of Tracee) and has always talked about how she styled and cared for her hair. I still won’t buy the products because they’re all the same. But if I had to I’d go with Donna.
Here early, and glad to be. Before I watch the video, though, I will say of all the celeb hair care brands out there, I think Tracee and Taraji's are the most authentic and not necessarily a cash grab. I say this because Taraji has a history of being very open about the horrible experiences she's had in the hair and makeup booth when it comes to styling her and the stylists using the wrong products. Tracee, on the other hand, has a history of being very open and vocal about her struggles as a bi-racial woman and how that translates to her hair and perceptions of Black hair & beauty on a macro and microscopic level. Beyonce and Rihanna, on the other hand, DON'T NEED a hair care line and shouldn't be making one because they're already billionaires, and from them, it just looks incredibly greedy and inauthentic as a result to me. But that's just my opinion. Edit: Beyoncé and Rihanna are not mixed. Ambiguous Monoracial BW do exist, and saying or implying that they are mixed in relation to discussions of hair health and length feeds the colorist and texturist stereotype that only Ambiguous looking/Bi-racial women/Lightskin, etc are capable of having long hair in the Black community, and we all know thats not true. BW hair shouldn't even be demonized in the first place, but we need to stop equating long hair w lightskin or mixed-race people.
Thanks for commenting and I agree with your statements about celebrity hair care and I stated Beyonce and Rihanna are mixed because of the admixtures of their parents not because they’re light skin. I am monoracially black and have light skin siblings so I definitely understand you can be light skin and be fully black however in my opinion they are not and I always state fully black women can grow long her and don’t need to be mixed in order to do it 🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Oooh, okay. I can understand how you'd come to that conclusion of Bey & Riri being mixed, but one reason I disagree with that is because I think the one-drop rule needs to end on both sides. Technically all Black Diasporic Women are "mixed" with some form of European ancestry as a result of slavery. Having 25% European/Other DNA and 75% African DNA is different than having 20% European/Other DNA and 80% African DNA. And in both of those instances the person would still be considered Black, because despite any technical admixtures of racial DNA from previous generations, its majority rule. That smaller percentage of white or "other" doesn't go away. But that percentage also does get to overshadow or compete with the "dominant" percentage either. It also doesn't help that BW don't reap any of the social, political, economic, educational, etc. benefits of being "mixed" with whatever racial admixtures are thrown into their existence. The only proof of BW benefiting is colorism, but even that is moot because lighter skinned BW still deal with all the "isms" to a lesser degree than our darker skinned sisters. We don't get to go around claiming "whiteness/mixed/bi-racial" just because our 3x great-grandparent was white, the same way white people don't get to claim being "mixed/bi-racial/black" because their 3x great-grandparent was a white-passing bi-racial or a bi-racial enslaved woman. Race is ultimately a social construct at the end of the day, and I don't disagree with you completely. I just think if we're going to bring up the topic, everyone should have an honest conversation about it from multiple POVs. But thanks for looking at my initial comment. Love your channel. 💖
I think it's weird to say that technically all black diasporic are mixed. There's no proof of that and that's a weird claim to say that all of them are mixed. How do you find that to be true. Also colonialism in Africa led to lots of admixture. Hence why my Nigerian grandfather was white passing or why Cape Verdeans look the way that they do. @@Jiinx123
I don't understand why the black and African community as a whole, wants to call these cash grabs. Tbh, I look at these companies that use to sell relaxers, that now sell products for natural hair, as cash grabs. We need more black owned products, whether celebrity or not,, and let those who want to buy it, buy it. We have so much smoke for our own ppl. The only person I'd be willing to buy from is Tabitha, even though her hair type is looser than mine, and Taraji's. And the only person I feel like shouldn't be up here is Tracee. Why is Beyonce mixed, but Rhianna isn't? Both have biracial parents who went "back to black" if you will. They are literally, genetically, blacker than Tracee, who is biracial, yet Tracee didn't receive as much backlash as either of these women. Ppl were more willing to try her products when they first came out. Also, at least the other 3 ladies money contributes to their black wealth, while Tracee's extended family continues to go to whyte wealth.
In my opinion Rihanna, Traci and Beyonce are all mixed race and I trust her products most out of the 3 because she shows her hair and I would be open to trying Tabitha and Taraji as well and your conversation about black wealth is accurate…I’ll have to do a separate video about that🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Conversation and opposing opinions are definitely needed in these types of discussions. In my opinion, Beyonce and Rhianna would be, give or take 75-80% black due to them having a whole black parent and a half black parent. Whereas Tracee has one whole black parent and one whole nonblack parent, give or take, Tracee is literally 50% black. A biracial person wearing their hair out, when they've always been more accepted to wear a "bush" or curl, in my opinion, isn't very motivating for me as a bw, especially when women like Rhianna and Beyonce feel like they have to wear fake hair as bw, but the biracial woman does not. I left another comment in regards to the bw and biracial hair dynamics of the show Girlfriends, so, it'd be interesting to hear your take on that as well 👍🏿
@@bre9328 yes I should have been more specific Rihanna and Beyonce are mixed and Traci is biracial ….Rihana and Beyonce are what would be classified as MGM or multi generational mixed vs monoracially black. I will look for your other comment 🤎
@@bre9328 you can’t say their percentage based on their parents. Genetics simply does not work that way. Tracee might be more than 50% black. Ri Ri and Beyoncé may not be as high as 80%. I have 2 black parents. And black grandparents. For example I’m 20 something percent non black. If I get with a white person my child may very well be more than 50% white.
@@jasminscarbrough2596 I know, which is why I said "give or take", when speaking on percentage. However, even if we go by looks, Tracee looks biracial, showing both ethnicities in her face. Whereas Beyoncé and Rhianna have more "black features", and any other ethnicity isn't necessarily apparent. Same thing with Tia and Tamera Mowry, the more they age, you can see their dad's ethnicity, and really you can see it when they are young. Also, those ancestry DNA test aren't necessarily accurate, so you may be less than 20%,, but who knows🤷🏿♀️
I tried a Pattern beauty product and it wasn’t for me. I have a couple of Pattern tools and they are fine. It’s taken me a long time to find the right products for my hair so I’m kind of tired of experimenting and it gets expensive. The good thing is we get to choose what we consume and put aside what doesn’t serve us. Btw, I know you target type 4 coils, but I find your content interesting. Hope you don’t mind my 3c/4a/4b self jumping in!
Thanks for watching and I center type 4 hair no matter the mixture…so your hair type is great…I’m actually looking for someone with 3a/4a mixture for a project I’m working on so if you’re interested in details please email coffeecuties777@gmail.com 🤎🤎🤎
I'm just not interested in buying these celebrity hair care products. For me I have found good inexpense products my hair loves and thriives. Most of the time I do a lot of diy's but if one chooses to purchase their products then more power to you I just prefer not too.
I think the reason why people care about what Beyonce and Rihanna's hair looks like is because nothing is interesting or innovative about their hair lines. When I see products like the mane choice, aunt jackies, etc. idk who the face is but the products are intriguing. Beyonce's and Rihanna's arent. Also I don't think this is exclusive to us. I think even non black people expect to see real hair when a celebrity or influencer is the face of a hair related product.
Mixed isn't a race, its a description. Bey & Rih are unmistakably Black women. Fully African people have soft hair, ever heard of the Fulani or Somalians?🙄. Idk why you're associating that with being mixed.
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@@PrincessYonna1 Well I've tried both the Leave-in which features flaxseed gel and HEMI15 as well as the moisturizing shampoo and they are more for fine textured or low porosity in my opinion. The leave in is more compatible for my low density 4C hair so if you like heavier creams and butters you may not like this line. Pretty much all the products are water based and lightweight
Y’all the pattern deep conditioner made my hair fall out so bad. I am still recovering, I know it was this product because when I stopped using it my hair shedding reduced drastically. 😢
@@PrincessYonna1 I heard that they sold their company so it is no longer black owned. So the ingredients cater to those without natural hair, and I notice a lot of hair videos with Shea but they are not from women of color.
@@LethalLemonLime I don’t put deep conditioner on my scalp I never said that. There is something in the product that caused my hair to weaken and fall out.
I have to admit that I own all those brands in the thumbnail, but I can tell you the one I won’t purchase again. It’s probably not who you think 🤔, and she’s my favorite 😩.
One last thing: if you are claiming to go natural while still wearing weaves and hair hats, then you have not truly gone natural. The excuse that we love to make is having a "protective hairstyle," but this makes no sense. The point of the natural hair movement is to learn to accept and be comfortable with wearing your own hair as it grows out of your scalp. If you still feel the need to hide it or alter it by dying or texturizing or always needing to have a silk press, then that shows you are not yet free mentally. Some of our women are so obsessed with length and texture, trying their best to make it look (in their eyes) more presentable, to the point that even their edges are permanently damaged from all of this altering the natural state of the hair. It's alright to not have bone straight edges or tresses. It's alright for it to look more coily than curly. It's alright to have short natural hair rather than long, fake hair that looks the same (I call it the Heather Locklear or Charlie's Angels hairstyle 😄) no matter who's wearing it. Free yourselves ladies, FOR REAL.
Beyonces hair from the most recent ad also loooked bad. Just fried (probably due to constant dyeing). Besides tracee none of these celebs wear their hair constantly natural. It’s either chemically or heat straightened or a wig is on top their head. All of these are cash grabs
Must admit, lost a little respect for her business acumen after the hair line because like Serena Williams and her makeup line, she played us like we don’t have eyes or access to Google Image searches.
They are not “mixed “, they have mixed admixture, as most African Americans, or the descendants of enslaved ancestors. Both of their parents are Black. Just because you are lighter skinned, does not make you mixed.
Thanks for commenting and I didn’t state they are mixed because they are light skin because I know there are many monoracial light skin people with all types of features etc. I stated they were mixed because of the admixture of their parents 🤎🤎🤎
I don't really care about these celebrities showing off their natural hair, because they never wear it out. They stay wearing fake hair peices be that wigs, or braid extensions, or they keep it straightened. Either way its not their real natural hair texture. So I'm over it.
Are you referring to this video or in general because I stated black women are free to do what they want with their hair in any videos. However this is a coily hair page made for black women to embrace and love their natural hair 🤎
I think her daughter’s hair would be a better marketing strategy but I understand how that may be a sensitive issue given earlier (unfair) reactions to her child’s hair as a baby
People are just ignorant, was Beyonce we don't know if that's a wig or that's her natural hair. Because she is so rich she can get the wigs that look like your hair even when you part it, then the ignorant people go and call Renee bald-headed when she just had a baby she had postpartum she lost her hair so she had to cut some of it because it was in patches and she has better texture than most of the ones calling her ball headed. I actually like Patton beauty but sometimes when mixed girls do hair care it's normally not for 4 hair type friendly but so far the reviews are pretty good Tracee Ellis Ross hair Care line and to me the reviews for Beyonce's and Rihanna's have been 50/50.
alll the typos lord god bless her with the strength of revision. Rihanna pretty much always has short hair regardless of her post partum status. And what a weird excuse. It's not like Rihanna's the only woman in the world out here getting pregnant. Apparently Rihanna is single-handedly sustaining the world population.
@@LethalLemonLime I didn't know we were in school for you to be worried about my typos as you say. And Rihanna has had long hair from when she was young and then when she did on the replay or he was long then and there's also proof from when she was growing up in Barbados but Rihanna likes to cut her hair short a lot of the times but what does it matter anyways long hair doesn't mean healthy hair. You just seems like somebody that's a hater of Rihanna anyways
Yes I stated Beyonce , Rihanna and Traci Ellis Ross were mixed race however the video is about celebrity hair care lines aimed towards black women. I also mentioned Taraji P Henson who is a black woman…thanks for watching 🤎🤎🤎
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I would just like to simply point out that Rihanna and Beyoncé both come from Black people. Each one of these ladies has a black mother and a black father, which makes them a black person. I would not categorize them as mixed women . When you come from a black Set of parents that makes you black as well.
@@nurarobinson7789 Thanks for commenting 🤎Beyonce mother is actually mixed and Rihanna’s dad is mixed as well so they are mgm or multi generationally mixed🤎🤎🤎
Rihanna and Beyonce both have millions of dollars and access to professional stylists who help them achieve the looks we see on screen. Buying their products won't give us the same results they achieve. The only silver lining to this trend is seeing natural hair normalized and encouraging other black women to wear their hair as is. We don't need their products to look good.
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Not only that but they also have the hair texture that's deemed acceptable.
@@coolida23511 So true!
Well said honey.
I've been seeing natural hair everywhere. Haven't you noticed more natural hairstyles on tv? That's why I was confused to read more BW were straightening their hair. Personally, I think BW should wear their hair the way they want, as long as being natural is not looked down upon or demonized.
When it comes to celebrities I feel natural hair is trending but when it comes to influencers I feel like a lot more of them are moving towards relaxers or straight naturals…it’s a weird dynamic going on right now
This is my personal opinion; most celebrities put out these things as a way to gain income without having to constantly act, put out an album, etc. Cause the entertainment business isn't stable and they need another stream of income to live in luxury. If you like the celebrity and want to buy their product that's on you. At the end of the day it's about does the product work. What you want is repeat buyers not 1 time purchasers. And if you really want to target the natural hair community the money is in the styling products. If you can make a curl pop, provide good hold, and/or keep the hair moisturized that's good money.
I agree 🤎thanks for watching 🤎🤎🤎
I’m a Beyoncé fan and I will not be buying her hair products. TGIN works for me and I’m not paying more money for Beyoncé’s expensive products just because she is Beyoncé. I will continue to use what works for me and spend less on hair products.
I use TGIN as well and I agree 🤎🤎🤎
I have been using TGIN Honey Deep Mask Conditioner for a looooooooong time
I completely agree out of all of them Tracee seems the most genuine. I’ve only bought her tools not her products yet but I am definitely considering purchasing some of her products
How well do her tools work?
More genuine than Tabitha Brown's?
Before I watch the video, I have to ask: wasn’t it just last month that people were getting relaxers???? And you’re right, I do see natural hair is trending amongst a lot of black girls and women. I think it’s because of the amount of videos I see of black women and girls telling each other to wear their hair. The benefits, inspirations, and realizations of wearing natural hair vs wigs, weaves.
I feel like the influencers are getting relaxers and the celebrities are embracing natural hair more…it’s a interesting dynamic 🤎
I'm here for this trend! ALL OF IT! 👏🏾 Hopefully this time it will stay!
Also, I would like to add, idk why biracial women like Tracee get praised for wearing their hair....like when have biracial women not worn their hair? Even on the show Girlfriends, the two biracial women wore their hair, while the two ACTUAL black woman, had their hair covered, and relaxed. Again the NHM was made for Toni and Maya (black women), so they can love their hair, not Tracee and Lyn (biracial women) who are ignorant to their hair but nonetheless are more acceptable when it comes to wearing their hair. I wouldnt put faith in Tracee's products because she shows her hair, no more than I'd trust a biracial girl off the street telling me her products grew her hair
Oh brotherrrrr loud & wrong! My mom is biracial & has type 4 hair & her darkskin fully Black best friend has 3c hair. Black women aren't a monolith
@@jesusisgodislove9912 What does hair type have to do with my comment? When did I mention hair texture, in general? 🤔 The irony of you saying someone's loud and wrong, when you fit both criteria 😒 Have several seats.
I agree biracial women and women with type 3 have been more acceptable however the original natural hair movement was created for all mixed and black women regardless of hair type and that honestly was apart of the problem. Type 3 hair was placed on a pedestal in the movement leaving women with type 4 hair unrepresented. That’s why on this channel I choose to only highlight type 4 coily hair. Lastly when it comes to Traci products I do understand your perspective but in comparison to Beyonce or Rihanna I definitely would put more trust in hers versus others but even with hers the only product I was willing to try is heat protectant.
To add I only trust coily hair creators as well and only tried the heat protectant after I say women with type 4 hair co-signing it because I won’t buy it simply because it’s a woman with type 3 hair saying it works🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Lol, I don't mean to go back and forth, but I remember the original NHM being for BW, but just like everything else that black ppl create other ppl feel entitled to it, and there was a problem with gatekeeping our movement. We were having the same conversations on blogs and youtube about why biracial women felt they were apart of the movement. They came right in, and BW didn't check them like we should have. I was getting dragged back then for speaking out about how they were not a part of the movement, because I knew it would lead to where we are today. But anyways, great discussion 👍🏿
@@bre9328 I don’t mind the dialogue and yes when black women started the NHC they didn’t set any boundaries so mixed women were allowed to be there at the ground floor as well and everyone put their hair on a pedestal losing the original purpose of type 4 hair being embraced 🤎
I feel like these celebrity brands are a bit disingenuous. I feel like they had the chance to do this during the first natural hair movement. It would have meant so much more and be revolutionary and affirming for the black community. Especially they should have had products directed to black hair. I gladly give my money to big conglomerates because at least they know what it takes to make a good enough product for black hair. but clearly these celebs don't care enough.
That’s a great point…where were they during the first movement 🤔
Good video. I thought I was the only one who thought these hair products from Bey/Rih were way too expensive lol. I will not buy a product just because of the name attached to it.
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Donna's Sweet Potato Hair products are soo great! Shampoo, Conditioner makes your hair soft. The Leave in Cream inside a jar is more moisturizing than the bottle leave in... Donna's products are more moisturizing than Tracey Ross and Taraji P Henson. I need to try Beyonce and Riri to see what's the best celebrity products....I hear it's mediocre but I gotta try it on my 3A hair to see 😄
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From TH-cam reviews, Donna Recipe seems to be really good. The only reason why I haven't tried it is because they don't ship to where I live.
Perhaps if I’m in a splurge-y mood I may one day consider Cecred. For now I’m in the if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it stage of my natural hair care journey. However, I do regularly use and hoard Taraji’s Ultra Chill Serum. I use it for itching for my daughters and I when we have braids, cornrows or for me locs before I cut them. It works like no other anti-itch spray (and I’ve used a TON over the past couple of decades). We all audibly sigh from relief after applying. Nothing is better than a wash day but this gets us through til then.
Completely agree it’s room for everyone to win. Before we didn’t have enough natural hair products and now we have too many. We gotta pick a side lol
Right lol 😂 thanks for watching and I just subscribed to your TH-cam channel 🤎🤎🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 aww thanks luv I’m subscribed as well and been tuned all the way into your commentary. Keep em coming 🙌🏽✨
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I'm glad about the truth you pointed out at the 10:15 mark. Most of these haircare lines are not owned by us, even if they were previously created by us. Some of our people love money more than their community unfortunately. It never made sense to me to build your brand and then sellout to someone not of your own people. Most of these blk business owners only finesse our people to support their brands financially until they can cash in. Many of the brands that were never blk owned have all of this blk sounding names and aren't even black, neither do they have black textures. Two blk owned brands tried and true are Lusters and Bonner Brothers. The only other brand I know for sure is blk is Miche Beauty. Those like Aunt whatever or somebody's daughter and momma, african this or that, coils etc. are usually not blk owned. Don't fall for the scam. Do your research and keep your dollars in your own communities where you and yours can rightfully benefit.
I’m constantly amazed how we as black identifying people will wear almost like a badge of honor this need to breakdown BW celebrities motives negatively for their “bag” yet have no problem with all other people supporting their own people. We are a people living/thinking/operating within a microcosm bubble that time and time again is not benefiting us.
No wonder we can easily be taken down…
I have used Pattern Beauty, the tight texture products for the past 5 months, and I really like it. I've noticed my hair has way less breakage and more length retention in my trouble areas (the back center of my head and my side edges) than with the plethora of other products that I have used in the past. I even did the wash and go style with it and didn't immediately hate and cover it up for the first time with this product and that was just with the styling cream. Tracee does sell sample packs for each of the products, so if you don't like it, you are not stuck with bottles.
Taraji has a great hair care line ❤
That’s good to hear…thanks for watching 🤎🤎🤎
I make my own hair pomade.
Oh wow nice! Don’t mind sharing how to do that so other women can have that as an option for them as well?🤎
Blue Magic & Dax, "they could never make me hate you!" lolol
I’m hearing more and more women say they are using blue magic grease🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 I'm a man, but I'm down for the cause.
You forgot Gabrielle Union and her hair care line. Lol
Anyway pattern is the only celebrity product line I like. Tia mowry’s line is ok. I liked the shampoo’s. Outside of that I have no plans to try Bey’s line , maybe one day I will try Rhianna’s but I doubt it. I like what I use already so no need to try anything else.
Good vid to have a discussion on.
I didn’t know Gabrielle Union had a hair care line…I’ll have to look into it…and thanks for watching 🤎🤎🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 yes it was being sold at sally”s last time i checked. she even redid the line to include natural hair.
Da Brat also has a hair care line (in partnership with her hair stylist), but no one talks about it.
I don’t hear no conversation surrounding her hair care line either…I wonder if it’s any good!
Da Brat has 0 appeal to Black women especially young people trying to feel feminine with natural hair.
I thought she was the face of Kaleidoscope, which is her wife's brand....
Don’t forget Kenya Moore Haircare
Oh yeah how could I forget…I’ll have to highlight her on my community tab🤎
People should stop falling for any of these cash grabs: Tracee’s products didn’t grow her hair, and they don’t grow your hair. It’s called genetics 🙄 Rihanna’s hair is like everyone else’s, it doesn’t look healthy. Why would I buy anything from her? Beyoncé, I love you boo…but she has also always had long hair. To Beyonce’s credit her mom is an actual licensed hair stylist. So her products probably had a lot of input from Tina. Donna is the only person who actually wears her natural hair (outside of Tracee) and has always talked about how she styled and cared for her hair. I still won’t buy the products because they’re all the same. But if I had to I’d go with Donna.
Here early, and glad to be. Before I watch the video, though, I will say of all the celeb hair care brands out there, I think Tracee and Taraji's are the most authentic and not necessarily a cash grab. I say this because Taraji has a history of being very open about the horrible experiences she's had in the hair and makeup booth when it comes to styling her and the stylists using the wrong products. Tracee, on the other hand, has a history of being very open and vocal about her struggles as a bi-racial woman and how that translates to her hair and perceptions of Black hair & beauty on a macro and microscopic level. Beyonce and Rihanna, on the other hand, DON'T NEED a hair care line and shouldn't be making one because they're already billionaires, and from them, it just looks incredibly greedy and inauthentic as a result to me. But that's just my opinion.
Edit: Beyoncé and Rihanna are not mixed. Ambiguous Monoracial BW do exist, and saying or implying that they are mixed in relation to discussions of hair health and length feeds the colorist and texturist stereotype that only Ambiguous looking/Bi-racial women/Lightskin, etc are capable of having long hair in the Black community, and we all know thats not true. BW hair shouldn't even be demonized in the first place, but we need to stop equating long hair w lightskin or mixed-race people.
Thanks for commenting and I agree with your statements about celebrity hair care and I stated Beyonce and Rihanna are mixed because of the admixtures of their parents not because they’re light skin. I am monoracially black and have light skin siblings so I definitely understand you can be light skin and be fully black however in my opinion they are not and I always state fully black women can grow long her and don’t need to be mixed in order to do it 🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Oooh, okay. I can understand how you'd come to that conclusion of Bey & Riri being mixed, but one reason I disagree with that is because I think the one-drop rule needs to end on both sides. Technically all Black Diasporic Women are "mixed" with some form of European ancestry as a result of slavery. Having 25% European/Other DNA and 75% African DNA is different than having 20% European/Other DNA and 80% African DNA. And in both of those instances the person would still be considered Black, because despite any technical admixtures of racial DNA from previous generations, its majority rule. That smaller percentage of white or "other" doesn't go away. But that percentage also does get to overshadow or compete with the "dominant" percentage either. It also doesn't help that BW don't reap any of the social, political, economic, educational, etc. benefits of being "mixed" with whatever racial admixtures are thrown into their existence. The only proof of BW benefiting is colorism, but even that is moot because lighter skinned BW still deal with all the "isms" to a lesser degree than our darker skinned sisters. We don't get to go around claiming "whiteness/mixed/bi-racial" just because our 3x great-grandparent was white, the same way white people don't get to claim being "mixed/bi-racial/black" because their 3x great-grandparent was a white-passing bi-racial or a bi-racial enslaved woman. Race is ultimately a social construct at the end of the day, and I don't disagree with you completely. I just think if we're going to bring up the topic, everyone should have an honest conversation about it from multiple POVs. But thanks for looking at my initial comment. Love your channel. 💖
I think it's weird to say that technically all black diasporic are mixed. There's no proof of that and that's a weird claim to say that all of them are mixed. How do you find that to be true. Also colonialism in Africa led to lots of admixture. Hence why my Nigerian grandfather was white passing or why Cape Verdeans look the way that they do. @@Jiinx123
I don't understand why the black and African community as a whole, wants to call these cash grabs. Tbh, I look at these companies that use to sell relaxers, that now sell products for natural hair, as cash grabs. We need more black owned products, whether celebrity or not,, and let those who want to buy it, buy it. We have so much smoke for our own ppl. The only person I'd be willing to buy from is Tabitha, even though her hair type is looser than mine, and Taraji's. And the only person I feel like shouldn't be up here is Tracee. Why is Beyonce mixed, but Rhianna isn't? Both have biracial parents who went "back to black" if you will. They are literally, genetically, blacker than Tracee, who is biracial, yet Tracee didn't receive as much backlash as either of these women. Ppl were more willing to try her products when they first came out. Also, at least the other 3 ladies money contributes to their black wealth, while Tracee's extended family continues to go to whyte wealth.
In my opinion Rihanna, Traci and Beyonce are all mixed race and I trust her products most out of the 3 because she shows her hair and I would be open to trying Tabitha and Taraji as well and your conversation about black wealth is accurate…I’ll have to do a separate video about that🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Conversation and opposing opinions are definitely needed in these types of discussions. In my opinion, Beyonce and Rhianna would be, give or take 75-80% black due to them having a whole black parent and a half black parent. Whereas Tracee has one whole black parent and one whole nonblack parent, give or take, Tracee is literally 50% black. A biracial person wearing their hair out, when they've always been more accepted to wear a "bush" or curl, in my opinion, isn't very motivating for me as a bw, especially when women like Rhianna and Beyonce feel like they have to wear fake hair as bw, but the biracial woman does not. I left another comment in regards to the bw and biracial hair dynamics of the show Girlfriends, so, it'd be interesting to hear your take on that as well 👍🏿
@@bre9328 yes I should have been more specific Rihanna and Beyonce are mixed and Traci is biracial ….Rihana and Beyonce are what would be classified as MGM or multi generational mixed vs monoracially black. I will look for your other comment 🤎
@@bre9328 you can’t say their percentage based on their parents. Genetics simply does not work that way. Tracee might be more than 50% black. Ri Ri and Beyoncé may not be as high as 80%. I have 2 black parents. And black grandparents. For example I’m 20 something percent non black. If I get with a white person my child may very well be more than 50% white.
@@jasminscarbrough2596 I know, which is why I said "give or take", when speaking on percentage. However, even if we go by looks, Tracee looks biracial, showing both ethnicities in her face. Whereas Beyoncé and Rhianna have more "black features", and any other ethnicity isn't necessarily apparent. Same thing with Tia and Tamera Mowry, the more they age, you can see their dad's ethnicity, and really you can see it when they are young. Also, those ancestry DNA test aren't necessarily accurate, so you may be less than 20%,, but who knows🤷🏿♀️
I tried a Pattern beauty product and it wasn’t for me. I have a couple of Pattern tools and they are fine. It’s taken me a long time to find the right products for my hair so I’m kind of tired of experimenting and it gets expensive. The good thing is we get to choose what we consume and put aside what doesn’t serve us. Btw, I know you target type 4 coils, but I find your content interesting. Hope you don’t mind my 3c/4a/4b self jumping in!
Thanks for watching and I center type 4 hair no matter the mixture…so your hair type is great…I’m actually looking for someone with 3a/4a mixture for a project I’m working on so if you’re interested in details please email coffeecuties777@gmail.com 🤎🤎🤎
I'm just not interested in buying these celebrity hair care products. For me I have found good inexpense products my hair loves and thriives. Most of the time I do a lot of diy's but if one chooses to purchase their products then more power to you I just prefer not too.
What products do you DIY? I would love to highlight more DIY products on my channel🤎
I make my own hair pomade.@@CoffeeCuties777
I think the reason why people care about what Beyonce and Rihanna's hair looks like is because nothing is interesting or innovative about their hair lines. When I see products like the mane choice, aunt jackies, etc. idk who the face is but the products are intriguing. Beyonce's and Rihanna's arent. Also I don't think this is exclusive to us. I think even non black people expect to see real hair when a celebrity or influencer is the face of a hair related product.
Great points…thanks for watching 🤎🤎
Mixed isn't a race, its a description. Bey & Rih are unmistakably Black women. Fully African people have soft hair, ever heard of the Fulani or Somalians?🙄. Idk why you're associating that with being mixed.
I associate them with being mixed because the admixtures of their parents not because of their hair texture!
Take out Fulani out of this list most them have type 4 hair❤ soft hair#loose haire😂
Notable Celebrity Natural Hair Care Lines
1. PATTERN BEAUTY by Tracee Ellis Ross
2. CÉCRED by Tina Knowles
3. TPH by Taraji P. Henson
4. 4U by Tia Mowry
5. DONNA'S RECIPE by Tabitha Brown
***FENTY HAIR by Rihanna***
I want to try 4u hair line as it is very affordable
@@PrincessYonna1 Well I've tried both the Leave-in which features flaxseed gel and HEMI15 as well as the moisturizing shampoo and they are more for fine textured or low porosity in my opinion. The leave in is more compatible for my low density 4C hair so if you like heavier creams and butters you may not like this line. Pretty much all the products are water based and lightweight
P.s. 4u by Tia leave in has decent slip if your wondering
Y’all the pattern deep conditioner made my hair fall out so bad. I am still recovering, I know it was this product because when I stopped using it my hair shedding reduced drastically. 😢
Oh no wow 😮 thanks for sharing so it can help other coily cuties out🤎🤎🤎
Shea moisture shampoo made mine shed so much after every wash
@@PrincessYonna1 I heard that they sold their company so it is no longer black owned. So the ingredients cater to those without natural hair, and I notice a lot of hair videos with Shea but they are not from women of color.
why are you putting deep conditioner on your scalp?
@@LethalLemonLime I don’t put deep conditioner on my scalp I never said that. There is something in the product that caused my hair to weaken and fall out.
I have to admit that I own all those brands in the thumbnail, but I can tell you the one I won’t purchase again. It’s probably not who you think 🤔, and she’s my favorite 😩.
Which one? And please give a review on all of them🤎
Probably Tab???
One last thing: if you are claiming to go natural while still wearing weaves and hair hats, then you have not truly gone natural. The excuse that we love to make is having a "protective hairstyle," but this makes no sense. The point of the natural hair movement is to learn to accept and be comfortable with wearing your own hair as it grows out of your scalp. If you still feel the need to hide it or alter it by dying or texturizing or always needing to have a silk press, then that shows you are not yet free mentally. Some of our women are so obsessed with length and texture, trying their best to make it look (in their eyes) more presentable, to the point that even their edges are permanently damaged from all of this altering the natural state of the hair. It's alright to not have bone straight edges or tresses. It's alright for it to look more coily than curly. It's alright to have short natural hair rather than long, fake hair that looks the same (I call it the Heather Locklear or Charlie's Angels hairstyle 😄) no matter who's wearing it. Free yourselves ladies, FOR REAL.
Can we do TH-cam videos on how to get started with a channel… help us out🤦🏾♀️ let’s start a community for us
Yes I have a video on my memberships channel because I wasn’t sure people would be interested on my main channel…its still up🤎🤎🤎
Their hair products are just too expensive
Right smh 🤦🏾♀️
I wouldn't buy Rhianna's protoct, her hair looks so fried n he hardly wears out her natural hair, nope
I wouldn’t buy fenty hair either …thanks for watching 🤎
Beyonces hair from the most recent ad also loooked bad. Just fried (probably due to constant dyeing). Besides tracee none of these celebs wear their hair constantly natural. It’s either chemically or heat straightened or a wig is on top their head. All of these are cash grabs
@@danellymani205 I saw beyonces hair and I definitely see how the hair dye has caused some damage 🤎
Must admit, lost a little respect for her business acumen after the hair line because like Serena Williams and her makeup line, she played us like we don’t have eyes or access to Google Image searches.
They are not “mixed “, they have mixed admixture, as most African Americans, or the descendants of enslaved ancestors. Both of their parents are Black. Just because you are lighter skinned, does not make you mixed.
Thanks for commenting and I didn’t state they are mixed because they are light skin because I know there are many monoracial light skin people with all types of features etc. I stated they were mixed because of the admixture of their parents 🤎🤎🤎
I don't really care about these celebrities showing off their natural hair, because they never wear it out. They stay wearing fake hair peices be that wigs, or braid extensions, or they keep it straightened. Either way its not their real natural hair texture. So I'm over it.
I agree…celebrities showing their hair every blue moon does not move me at all🤎
Women are versatile. So this trick to divide over the hairstyle choices of grown women is feebleminded and trifiling!!!
Are you referring to this video or in general because I stated black women are free to do what they want with their hair in any videos. However this is a coily hair page made for black women to embrace and love their natural hair 🤎
Beyoncés hair is long but she has no curls her hair is damaged
True…especially in her latest wash day video🤎
I think her daughter’s hair would be a better marketing strategy but I understand how that may be a sensitive issue given earlier (unfair) reactions to her child’s hair as a baby
Rihanna is not mixed.
you think having green eyes makes her not mixed
Her father is of African. Irish and Scottish descent . Rihanna isn't pure black.
@@nochoice3132 I'm am as well.
@@zflw64okay and? What does that have to do with Rihanna being entirely black? She’s not.
No one is pure anything anymore
People are just ignorant, was Beyonce we don't know if that's a wig or that's her natural hair. Because she is so rich she can get the wigs that look like your hair even when you part it, then the ignorant people go and call Renee bald-headed when she just had a baby she had postpartum she lost her hair so she had to cut some of it because it was in patches and she has better texture than most of the ones calling her ball headed. I actually like Patton beauty but sometimes when mixed girls do hair care it's normally not for 4 hair type friendly but so far the reviews are pretty good Tracee Ellis Ross hair Care line and to me the reviews for Beyonce's and Rihanna's have been 50/50.
alll the typos lord god bless her with the strength of revision. Rihanna pretty much always has short hair regardless of her post partum status. And what a weird excuse. It's not like Rihanna's the only woman in the world out here getting pregnant. Apparently Rihanna is single-handedly sustaining the world population.
What’s a better texture to you 🤨
Right 🤔
@@LethalLemonLime I didn't know we were in school for you to be worried about my typos as you say. And Rihanna has had long hair from when she was young and then when she did on the replay or he was long then and there's also proof from when she was growing up in Barbados but Rihanna likes to cut her hair short a lot of the times but what does it matter anyways long hair doesn't mean healthy hair. You just seems like somebody that's a hater of Rihanna anyways
I only see one Black woman in that collage...
Yes I stated Beyonce , Rihanna and Traci Ellis Ross were mixed race however the video is about celebrity hair care lines aimed towards black women. I also mentioned Taraji P Henson who is a black woman…thanks for watching 🤎🤎🤎
They are black women look at they skin n hair also im mixed race black but im lighter then riri😂