1964 Ford 390 FE Country Squire Engine Gets A Teardown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- The motor is stuck bad in this old car so we've got try to get it tore down and see what's salvageable.
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You are the only person I've ever seen with a motor manual. Me and my brother's inherited our grandfather's collection.
Once Chad finds out the motor is better used as a ships anchor he says, "Ya know what we're gonna have to do with this one right" ?
No-Sir, we ain't scrap'en it , we're gonna do a This N That Garage rebuild ! As a new subscriber and after watching several videos, it's plain to see that Chad is a master mechanic. Loving this !
Talk about ignorant. You won the prize.
You bring a positive feeling to a Shadetree mechanic
My Dad had a '63 country squire in the mid '70's, 2bl 352. It was a brilliant car that really stood out in the UK. It was fully speced out and had features that UK cars could only dream of, we all loved it and he kept it for years. Only one problem was it froze once and split the block in the lifter valley, got it welded they made a beautiful job of it, and it was good to go again. Good luck with yours
Been a ford man all my life and thunderbird covers came stock on the 390 four barrel engines. I seen it also on the 352 engines in 58 high performance engines. As a fact, even the Y blocks of the earlier year also had it on them. I would not hesitate to build it as it is with what ever good parts that you have. Most aggravating was the exhaust bolts on all FE engines seemed to weld the bolts into the heads on them. I put studs in the ones that did come out and used a nut an bolt to hold on the ones that had to be drilled out. I tended to use headers when I could on those heavy S.O.B.'s and used a aluminum intake when available as their so heavy if your a leaning over a fender to put a intake on them. I just used silicon on the ends of the intake cause they do leak if they pouch out on you when bolting it down. Leave loose a bit till the silicone tacked up then tightened. I would not worry a bit if I went to a wrecking yard and pulled a piston out of another engine. Fords seem very forgiving when throwing them back together. I also used the cheapest gaskets on the heads if they were flat enough. I think felpro is way overpriced. McCormick gasket sets seemed to be just fine. Polish the crank with some croakiest cloth. I think that your going to find that its one very easy engine to work on.... when putting the oil pump on, be sure to use the oil pump shaft with that washer that slides on the oil pump shaft and keeps it from being pulled out if you pull the distributor out... they like to stick to the end of the distributor an then a bitch to get into the pump after words. You will see what I mean provided it still has the slide washer on it. When you go to a junkyard and get that spacer thing that split on you trying to turn the crank... you can grab a piston an the spacer, maybe some of the bolts that broke pulling this one down, pack the oil pump with vaseline before putting it back together. I would use all your crank rods from the original engine an just swap the piston. Also very important.... don't forget the oil slinger that is next to the crank as it will throw oil like crazy if you forget it on the timing chain area. Don't know why fords did it so bad but I have forgot one, one only, when putting a timing chain cover on. I also just used the heavy duty single roller timing chain as its only got to go another 100,000 thousand miles and if its a steel gears set with that chain, they hold up just fine... its all about the price and which is cheaper
Ford engines are junk
I once pull 406 heads of an old navy pickup
It had gold valve covers. They were the next generation valve covers. The boxy
i bought a 62 f100 4x4 from susanville,ca. im in aus..they guy fitted a 352 & 9"".. [ swb truck]. ill re build it. it got me with 4 broke bolts, in the truck, not on stand..i have an alloy intake. headers..will fit mid cam & parts. disc the front diff. i have a spare d70. so might sell the 9"" as worth 1200 here in any cond,,for the holden,[gm], commodore nuts..
I had an 390FE in a speedboat and I LOVED working on that motor!
It is always good to give the engine a good wash so that it takes on another good appearance. The good thing is to fix what has been cleaned, not to fix what is dirty, I say from a distance, thank you, thank you.👍
My childhood friend grew up with a '64 Country Squire that he inherited in the seventies. It had the 390 4barrel that we totally rebuilt in the late seventies or early eighties. I think we put in 10 1/2 compression pistons and balanced the engine. That thing was a runner and hit 120mph no problem.
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If I remember correctly the intake weighs 85 lbs it's self. That's a beast of a engine. Put one out of a t-bird in my 66 f100. What a screamer.
My 67 390 ran hot all the time, also had to replace the exhaust manifolds on both sides.
Had a 390 police interceptor tri-power, the long cast iron factory header exhaust, ran at 165 and 170 all the time 10 and 1/2 to 1 compression, Shelby cam easily had over 400 horsepower
Pre 68 had different diameter water pump pulley diameters, NON a/c cars had an underdriven setup, a/c cars had overdriven setup. I find most people complaining about their FE's overheating at idle or slow speeds are non a/c cars like mine. Drove me nuts trying to figure that one out. I put an overdriven water pump pulley on and problem solved, never gets hot anymore.
@@MaxGiganteum Ford FE engines only ever had a clockwise direction rotating water pump since they all used V belt drive systems. They seem to like a lot of water pump rotating speed at idle to keep from getting hot at idle and slow speeds.
Like to see you do more to the wagon put a motor on it and go get the top off the other wagon and put it together. Awesome car
Timing issue?
Also had to put a new fan with extra blades, also a transmission cooler, helped a lot.
bought a load leveler like that back in 80s, cut that handle off and welded lug nut on, put a impact on , makes for much faster job
I was thinking that...
Not only that but put some bearings on it too. This one was digging in metal to metal pretty bad.
Great video. I was waiting for the engine stand to fold, watching it wobble the entire time. I love your never give up attitude.
Always a pleasant time watching you work. Keeping the suspense going is working too!
Awesome to see a FE build, this wagon is going to be great!
Great break down, can't wait to see that thing go back together/run. Heavy SOB!
Very heavy!
You do some great work Chad, looking forward to seeing this 390 run again 👍☮️🇺🇲
Thunderbird 390 Motor, hope to see it running soon!!
Good video, I have no doubt that you’ll have that engine purring like a tomcat sitting on a sunny window sill very soon!
God bless 🙏🏼🇺🇸
I remember my father's country Squier wagon it was a 1964 can't wait to see the engine rebuild if I remember right the back gate and window was electric and the key turned one way for the window to go down and turned the other way to open the gate if I recall right your videos are awesome 👌
I have become addicted to this channel
Preshate it! 👍
I just watched him tip his dolly over with the engine on it and I am telling you this guy is so me. He is a lot more experienced than I am,but some of the things that happen to him it is like a video of me. He always gets where he is going maybe not always the best way,but he gets there. Bravo Chad. Keep safe man.
Enjoy watching you work
Keep rescuing old cars!
Your Country Squire was top of the line back in the day.
Thats one sexy car !
Of all the big wagons that country squire was one of the sharpest body styles.
26:40 🤣😂❤️ the way u r laughing is amazing. I’ll be laughing too if it happens to me، glad didn’t make much damage to the front grill ❤️ I’ll keep watching till the end ❤️
I was just sitting here hoping for an update on this one. Presto!
I come strictly for the singing....
I know nothing about being a mechanic but still watch your videos for the sheer entertainment of them. Thanks for the laughs and the know how.
I like this guy. He's goofy, but not stupid. No, this is a proper, genuine, backwoods engineer. I Love the look of this wagon. It screams 1960's.
Wow, this motor fought you all the way. I can imagine you are looking forward to working in the new workshop with a bridge and all. Less stress on your body and way safer. Thank you for spoiling with a whole hour of top class entertainment and knowledge.
Моё мнение двигатель снял очень-очень-очень не аккуратно и прежде чем снимать проверь всё от и до эх ёшкин ну ладно давай удачи тебе
It's tough working alone! Too bad you didn't have a helper at least when you pulled the motor. That fall sucked!! I enjoy watching you work!!
I’ve got a 77 F250 4 speed 4x4 with a transplanted 390. Runs pretty strong. I’m going to pull it this winter and do cam intake and heads and just a overall “freshen up” on it. Word of warning tho, FE parts, especially speed parts, are $$$$!
Hi Chad, I had a 62 ford xl. That had a 390 cube. It also said thunderbird on it, the color of the valve covers was silver , nice project, I think staionwagons are getting popular again , have fun. 😊
BTW: I love your tractor mounted hoist. I have used off the wall hoists such as, a beam mounted in a Bobcat bucket with a come-along, and a come-along strapped to the arm of my excavator. Like Mr Mom said, "220 or 221, whatever works".
Inside of engine pretty clean. I wonder if this engine had rebuild on it. Could be the head gaskets were installed incorrectly blocking a cooling port causing the over heating problems.
Thank you for the awesome video was wondering about this cool cat of a car! Really dig your channel hoping to see it grow as you really deserve it
Preshate it! 👍
Of the hundreds of engines ive pulled, ive never tumped the whole thing over with a battery cable still attatched lol! left plenty of other stuff attatched but that was classic! thanks for the chuckle and thanks for sharin
My Grandmal and grandpal had a red 64 2 door hard top. I’ll never forget riding in it. That’s why I’m a ford guy today.
Get yourself a lyft you will absolutely love it, I'm 78 years old and I'm on my way about 3:00 pounds and I certainly don't get under cars anymore was anymore so the 2 post left is absolutely greabsolutely great Roy carpenter sweet home Oregon
Hope I can soon!
Well done Chad, looks like the 390 block could go another round in the TNT garage !!! keep em coming
You must really love that old Ford meat wagon I know you'll get it going again because if you could put that old truck back together in the middle of the woods you can do anything.im just glad it's you and not me you are the hardest working guy I ever seen .take care and good luck and watch out for snakes..
I subscribed about 3 months ago. I just got outta the hospital after said 3 months.
Now I get to enjoy your channel, and I dig your content!
Preshate it. Glad you made it out! 👍
With a few performance parts (pistons, cam, intake, carb, and headers thrown at that 390, that ole Country Squire could be a lot of fun and be a great rat rod. I’m looking forward to the updates
Not a rat rod i dislike 😤 those things but yeah with some good performance parts that engine will come to life
In 1966 my dad bought a wrecked '64 Country Squire with the 390 just like that one. Needed a new front end. He rebuilt it, had it painted, and we had slick ride for a us 10 kids.
Get the crank turned and the block decked and new cam bearings put in
I had one of these I like to say it was a 78-79 country squire. Same exact colors for sure. For sure a 🚀 rocket land yacht. Emphasis on rocket.
Saw your video come up and knew it was going to be a good night. You remind me of my grand dad when I was a kid 30 years ago the way you love your work and go about things. Love your show.
Years ago before I had an overhead hoist, I would usually pull the radiator support and grill also. Just gives you more room for low height problems. The elves and trolls come in at night and hook up them starter wires - I swear! Great content as usual! Just a loyal subscriber always waiting for new content.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ !!
Absolutely legend. The real mechanic. Looking forward to the rest.
26:45 I’ve never seen that happen but have wondered what it would look like.
I joined the channel.
Just started watching your videos and I surely enjoy them. I won't never miss any of your new videos
Like seeing this old wagon again, in 66 I took a road trip with my uncle and cousins in one just like this one. Slept in the back for 4 nights, what a long Strange trip it was.
I am so looking forward to the rebuild videos for this!
Clumsy but a nice video, thank you! The Ford 351 Cleveland was the Darling of the Ford 351's! That Ford Station Wagon series was a strong Chassis! Love your engine tare-downs, re-builds and Runnings! Ron PTL USA
You sir? Are hilarious 😂 I could turn wrenches with you and call it fun anyday! Thanks for doing what you do!
I had a heart attack, when I thought you were going to wipe out that beautiful grille. I use a 50/50 combination of Diesel fuel and ATF, with heat if necessary. That combo works for me most of the time. The Thunderbird valve covers, were installed on 390s, with certain upgrades. On some years, Ford also put a pot metal Thunderbird emblem on the front fenders, in front of the lower door hinge. It was a reasonable performer.
I think it was actually a smart move to whack that crank with the wooden block. Better than putting the torque on the snout. Glad it worked.
A feller was dreaming about the day he would have a lift and now he’s got one…💪🏼 I can’t wait to see it in use. I’m glad I found your channel, I’m really enjoying it… Where abouts does a feller live in Tennessee? I’m in the north west corner of Georgia. About 10 minutes from Chattanooga.
Lots of things to keep track of pulling a motor like that in the yard. Reminds me of the old days. It actually is a nice motor when you get it done.
You are one hell of a worker.I like your new shop .
You're just having too much fun! Really enjoyed the video....thanks!
I had an old jack like that I used to lug all over the farm until someone stole it from me. It was the best thing that ever happened to me 🤣
I've got an aluminum harbor freight jack but it's tied up right now.
Excellent video Chad :) thats Thunderbird motor is correct on vavles covers and looking forward more videos on this engine also transmission plus car to and amazing on that one piston on rings part wow !
I just noticed at 36:40 that it says on the engine Block 352! You also should go back to the junkyard and grab the roof off of the other station wagon!
All FE blocks have 352 cast into them.
I love this old wagon that side trim is so cool
I love the lines on that car. I could see myself cruising in that car. A piece of art, not a piece of Sh#t lol Awesome rat rod, will turn heads! Total make over, will turn heads!
50/50 mix of auto trans fluid(non synthetic) and acetone for freeing things that are stuck. It works good.
Sir I had a 1967 ford Galaxie 500 4 door . Had a 390 4 barrel carb. My valve covers was ford blue and said powered by ford. Great engine. Pass everything up except gas station lol. I loved that car. Pulled her out of a brair patch. Been sitting 8 10 years. Found out why mine run little hot because didn't have that tank you took off with thermostat in. Loved the tailights on my 67. Wish I still had her. Keep up good work.
Them factory manifolds are bad about leaking. I fixed mine by having them both shaved and installing good gaskets. Also I replaced all my exhaust bolts with new stainless steel ones with never seize. No more leaks . I put dual exhaust on mine with 1 foot glass packs.
Love the content and I have to say the inside of that engine was the cleanest I think I ever seen one after setting that long keep up the good work
I had to do some cutting on my Harbor Freight engine stand to use it on a 5000 ford tractor engine. Just like you I put on what I could, then rolled to to the tractor, put it on the hoist. Then bolted it up.
Had a V 6 boat motor inboard.cooling plugged. Poured evapo rust in it.let set few days. Did the trick
have you ever had an argument with yourself and lost the argument you are one funny guy love your videos thanks for sharing
I talk to myself quite a bit! 🤣
don't worry about it worn down to the brass my brothers got a 390fe in his dumptruck going strong everyday 10 Years now since last rebuild maybe on day well get around to all that
They used the 390 in the T-Birds. In 1967 they took the T-Bird engine and T-Bird interior in a Galaxia body and called it a XL390.
Gonna be an awesome ride when it's done. Save the wagons 😃😃😃😃
That could be a super cool automobile,thanks for saving it.
I have built few FE motors and that intake ways a ton. They do run well with performance upgrades.
i am a professional transmission rebuilder in SC, and shop owner, retired 2 years. the transmission is a cast iron cruise o matic, it is one of my favorites. if you need a rebuilder i still have a shop:)) although the fluid is red i guarantee every seal in that trans. is hard as a dry stick, fords are notorious for that after they get old.
It's gonna get a rebuild. I'll be danged if I'm gonna fight that to get it back in the car only to have to pull the trans out again!
Great job, an Airco welder, I used to work for Airco back in the 80’s. 👍
Got a 460 that is rusted cooling ports. My 352 ran cool all the time. The 352 is stuck now, havnt started it in 12 years
Nothing like working on an old car in the shade on nice summer day.
I’m a FE fanatic. I’ve been building them for a lot of years. I have a few videos on budget rebuilding them. I run them in my street cars and my drag cars. I’m the guy that will FE swap anything. Lol. I’m not sure where you are but if you need some stock replacement parts I probably have some I’ll be glad to help you out with your project and get you some parts. If your close to my area I’ll gladly help you out
I need at least one piston. Email me at thisnthatgarage1@gmail.com
I got 2 pieces of 3/4 and 7/8 if you need it for future repairs to boom lift
I had a 390 head fall on top my foot taking it off block I was bout 21 at the time I 66 now and it was first thing cross my mind when u went take head off right be for u told us same thing happened to u small world lol grate viedo thanks
Removing the grille and crossmember will make it easy to install the engine.
A lot of Ford core supports are spot welded
lolol, I don't think there's much you can tell Chad that he hasn't already forgotten 😝
What you need is a creeper seat for when you messing with brakes and jegs sells one with a tool box and 3 drawers built in the seat frame, and the other suggestion is a big tool bag like the I believe it is a 24 inch husky mechanic tool bag
Great skills and love for the auto mobile make these channels the best shows on video. Thank you. I can't get enough of these revivals and how you all keep these first time machines going.
my werner floor jack that's about that size weighs a good 120lbs with the handle on it. getting it up the basement stairs whenever I need it requires some muscle stretching in preparation.
The patience you have is both incredible and inspiring 😊
I like the cut of your jib young man. Love these old automobiles getting some 'TLC'. Great stuff. Now subbed. Love it 👍
FE series big blocks had hydraulic lifters. Some of the 63 and 64 models had what was called a Thunderbird Special motor factory 410 horsepower 500 pounds torque. Its all cast iron.
I do like an engine teardown. (Especially when someone else is doing it)... The big trick is to do it for minimal expenditure. Anybody can buy a heap of new parts and build a 90% new engine. Save your money, Chad, and get a shop. I remember all too well crawling under cars, hoping that it wasn't going to be a really, really bad day... Nice to see those subscription numbers going up. Well deserved, feller. 👍
Where in the world have you been?? Haven't seen you comment in a few weeks. Had me worried!
@@ThisNThatGarage Your concern, sir, is noted and appreciated. I've just been busy lately. Something I try to avoid. You make 'em, I'll watch 'em, of that you can be sure. 👍
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Brings back a lot of memories we had one when I was a kid always had to put oil in it was worn out but kept going
If that old boy said it was getting hot it is probably because he never got all of the air out of the engine. What you should do when you go to put the engine back together you need to take the therostat completely out and run the engine without the thermostat in it. After you have run it for a good period of tie then you can open the cap and use a waterhose to continuously and slowly flush the system out. Once it's flushed you can place the thermostat back in it. That should take care of your overheating problem. Always use a 180 degree thermostat in it. I have had to run a 406 without a thermostat for a couple of months in order to get the trash out of the cooling syste, but on those FE blocks that is the best way to clean and flush the cooling system.
I find it easier to pull the motor out without the transmission attached. Although I have done it both ways. Just the lift angle to get the motor clear with the transmission not to mention the added weight adds to the difficulty. Your lucky you didn’t smash the whole front end when the motor fell. 😬
Once again. Great channel because nothing ever goes according to plan. You have to fight ever step of the way. Well done
I try to keep it real and not polished like I'm perfect. Ain't nobody perfect!
New subscriber from central Ohio. I really appreciate you taking what comes your way and putting in a solid effort. I'm a Ford guy around your age. I watch you and me knees hurt ! Like you, I don't give a darn about GM, Chrysler, Ford, International, AMC. Heck, a toyota or nissan that looks serviceable is okay. Like your way man !
This guy is hilarious. He is an older Vice Grip Garage type. I don't know anything about repairing cars, but I enjoy the suspense of what's going to happen next.
That made for a really nice sunday afternoon, watching that Motor come apart. Beautiful car, happy to see it get a new lease on life. Thanks for uploading and greetings from germany. 🙂👍
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The teflon timing gear was done for noise reduction
Years ago i did one in a 67 falcon with a 289 mine actually had 4 or 5 teflon teeth broken off found them in oil pump pick up at that moment i said no vehicle i own will ever have a plastic timing gear as long as i own it
On a cool fall night them old fords come two life like a jekyll and hyde
That's how we did it back in the old days started in the garage fixing stuff then took it out there in the yard and toward all the pieces again rebuild it and do it all over again that was the hillbilly way LOL