37:08 I legit played T3 the entire day that day, all the way until we got knocked out of playoffs. I got up at 7AM, and only stopped for food and small breaks, and iirc our run ended somewhere around 6 or 7 PM for me. Hands down was the most fun I've had in any playtest so far, and I just hope the game is successful enough that I can get the feeling of that day at least a few more times.
never heard of the tribes games but youtube randomly put this on autoplay massive fan of fps games and hearing someone be this passionate about a game is the best ad for me
When i started playing tribes, it was the large teams that made it fun. You didn't cause your game to lose. You could spend the game putting up turrents and repairing your base and still have fun. The game is so simple now that unless you are a fragger or capper, it's hard to get the feeling that you are contributing.
I think they created Outposts to give people more things to do. Tbh heavy armor and medium armor are super good right now. But I get your point. Base gameplay is at a minimum in this game.
42:52 - regarding vehicles, honestly, they are such a weird remnant of old Tribes games. Modern Tribes I absolutely share Erez's sentiment on this, vehicles are completely redundant in a game where you can rain artillery down from the air with a heavy or go 350km/h as a light. Vehicles offer no functionality that your skates and jets and weapons don't already do. It's redundant game design.
My most played Tribes game is T1 so I don't have a strong affinity to vehicles. That said, Shrikes are just cool and fun. Some of T:V's vehicles were super unique like the hopping tank and car you could spawn out of. Bombers where you n the homies could hop in and dominate in T2. I think these offer newer players a fun experience to play with friends which is a bit missing from t3
I think you're absolutely right about tribes needing to be fun casually with friends. I think if they can crack that then tribes can really pop off the way everyone (business + players) wants it to.
i absolute loved tribes veng and ascend, the first for the harpoon weapon and the second for the big generator fights, with ninja stealth ambushes, snipers and motorcycles
Subscribed. This was a good recap. Knowing that you're really involved in this game and still very optimistic is good to hear. I started playing tribes when you did (seems were like the same age ~36), and played a lot for 1and 2, but only casually. I played some Ascend but we know how that went. Glad to say I'll be building a PC for the first time ASAP, specifically for T3. I'm hoping to get on by Tuesday but I'm not sure if parts will arrive on time.
To be honest, I'm not optimistic that the game can find mainstream success, there are so many concerns with the lack of roadmap and community management issues. All I am hoping for now is for it to be successful enough to keep at least a small crew of devs dedicated to updating it over time, so that the Tribes community can continue to be united under one game/banner and we can have tournaments, PUGs, drafts, etc :)
@@omgitsfishstix there are so many games competing for peoples' time today - it's not realistic to think any game has a good chance of mainstream success. With that said, I hope the reception is better than expected and they're able to work on it for a bit, like you said. I'm just excited to see another Tribes game. If I had heard about it earlier than a month ago, I probably would already have built a computer for it.
im a movement shooter lover, only found out about this game like 2 weeks ago, played the playtest and was utterly shocked at this game not being free to play, i dont knoww, why they didnt go for this route as the game is not that well known to begin with. i feeel like going f2p would be really helpful for the player count
@@omgitsfishstix same here, only got to play it a swift 2 sessions but would love to play it again, am not sure if I like it enough to justify spending 20 bucks tho
Scar tissue is real... I love playing Tribes, I've done 70 hours during these playtests, but man even dropping a 20 makes me cringe thinking it maybe the last version I see until the playerbase leaves and the game sunsets again. Edited: I had to say I'm the 69th comment and you have 69 thumbs up, sorry I can't add another now :P
The option for spinfusor inheritance is doing my head in, do I leave it at default? Do I put it all to 100? Or do I zero it out... what settings do you prefer?
As a die hard Tribes 1 player back in the late 90's, and skipping all of the following releases, T3 Rivals feels really good. The core Tribes DNA is here. It's amusing to see people compare it to whatever recent tribes they played. There was a period with T1 where skiing didn't even exist. You had to install inventory scripts. They don't actually see the true evolution of the series.
wanted to show my friends the game while it was free but now that its going to be like 25 cad i cant see it happening. hard to justify when the game is as niche as it is. hopefully the game doesnt fail though.
@@WardenPlays i honestly prefer it as well, but cheap as it is its another barrier of entry on a game that has a high chance of failure. best case scenario would be something like splitgate from a couple years ago where the game is really popular for a bit then drops off once people move on, but with enough of a playerbase to sustain itself. the issue there is that splitgate was free and while it had a high skill ceiling it was still less than tribes. if they had a longterm f2p playtest with a proper advertising campaign to get people to try it before a price tag gets added id be a lot more hopeful.
I can't tell if this is encouraging or discouraging. But yeah I've gotten a ton of comments from people who had no idea the game existed. Marketing will be important.
The game feels really good. I just hope enough people find it. It's such a niche genre these days. They did a good job in both ascend and rivals when it came to keeping the tribes feel with modern updates. I hate that the greed gave it such a bad rep, even though it's deserved. I just wish it wasn't towards one of my favorite childhood games. If it fails, I just hope we can host our own games and keep it somewhat alive in the end lol.
I ve played t3 today but it was pretty boring, matches were too short, they lasted just few minutes, and always ended 5-0 for my team. I didn't understand if I was playing with humans or bots.
^^ This hit all the nails on all the heads Fish... Thank you for having such a positive attitude along with others toward the franchise I love the most. -Drivel
It's hard to compare T:A player count with T1 and T2, given the market was entirely different in 1998/2001. Lots of homes didn't even have a PC back then, and a lot of those that did were on dial-up. Gaming as a whole was still fairly niche compared to now. If you compare T2 against Quake 3, it held up quite well for a FPS at that time, especially one so unique and challenging. Tribes is always going to be a little outside the mainstream at best, and there's only so much you can dumb it down before you lose what it's supposed to be. If you're making a new Tribes game, you should know that going in and your business model should account for it. I get the impression Prophecy/Hirez kind of wing it when it comes to making games profitable. Start making the game now -- pouring money into it -- and figure out how to make money off of it later (hopefully, otherwise kill it to save the company).
Seems like even Prophecy don't expect the game to sell particularly well. I hope they have a plan to support it even with a small number of devs even if the game doesn't go gangbusters.
Tribes looks like a wild fun time but I'm so scared as I'm not that good at fast paced games but I love competetive team games. Still hoping to try it out in EA though
Something was said in here that actually makes me a bit worried about the future of this IP as is. You mentioned how a streamer may not enjoy themselves if they jump in without someone to hold their hand and explain; all that is tribes. Wouldn't that go for just about any new player? If thats what it currently takes for someone to start having fun, Tribes is screwed. You also compare tribes to league of legends as a reason why its technicality is not a major issue, this maybe an inappropriate comparison. Reason being is that every other MOBA was at least 80 percent league of legends, and the entire genre as a whole is basically dead short of a handful of games. Above that Tribes Ascend died heavily due to similar reasons, as well as a great number of other games with high skill such as Quake Champions, Paragon, and LawBreakers.
Am I the only one who _did not_ find that erez quote about GA to be so offensive?? He simply laid out exactly how things were from their end. There was nothing mean spirited or disingenuous about it. He simply said GA was losing them money, but at least it was a useful learning experience for their later games.
Hope I am able to either build a Pc or buy a good laptop, would not be my first time playing with touch from the laptop Also if they want to make profit for this game I know exactly what they need to do.
74 concurrent players right now. Why is there a paywall? Do these people actually think they're in a position to be charging admission? Beggars can't be choosers, -Hirez- Prophecy.
If we go back to trailer they released month ago that is exactly what t3 needs to be. If you know nothing about it seeing that stuff makes you feel something special. Issue here is translating that into environment where it can grow. We are not going to have any kind of mod support nor ability to host servers and to me that is just death sentence. Game like tribes has immense potential same kind that UT or Quake does. But how can we grow organically and show the world what this is about unless we have our box to play in. We would be in same spot even if we had big maps and vehicles, since issues presented are same. Game like tribes needs some kind of ecosystem very similar to how CS does. CS doesn't teach you how to play and improve community tools do. I know it is not fair to compare t3 to CS but at least would could have some Ski maps and servers, some FFA/TDM/CTF you know place to chill and socialize and get better why enjoying the game. Simple things like that can go very long way in giving game the growth it needs in addition to game being developed. That is the path to eventually get to a point where we can have Big tribes as well again.
I think more than anything they need to figure out a way for new players to enjoy their first experiences playing T3, ideally, with friends. Making it easy to hit midairs may help a little, but it also means new players are getting /hit/ by midairs all the time too from better players. I think the game needs better onboarding, and more stuff that will be fun to do with a friend together in a server even if you're a scrub.
@@omgitsfishstix Stuff like midairs and tweaks like that can come it is not what is going to make it or break it, neither will any single game mode. They need to facilitate community growth and tribes has potential to accommodate many different communities. Big maps and vehicles doesn't do anything on its own since that can be just as daunting as any other game mode without proper support. Since just how you can get dunked on smaller mode you can feel pointlessness of being on giant map while getting dunked on. Honestly I couldn't care less what kind of modes we get since we can get some of them eventually but what concerns me is that there is zero plan to support private servers and moding because without that I do not see long term future, and that is the reason why I mention CS since it wouldn't exist today as we know if it didn't have it as its backbone.
@@omgitsfishstix Salty Octopus did an interview with one of the lead devs, if I remember right, his name was Mick Larkins. All of the promises that Mick made, in response to the questions he was asked? Yeah, none of his promises have made it into the game. In regards to the onboarding. The question was asked, can we have ghosts, time trial ghosts, that can teach us capping routes etc. Mick said yes! Erez doesn't seem to think that is a priority. And yet, as a noob, I want ghosts to follow, so I can have at least 1-2 capping routes I can practice, and use. Worst part is, even if I watch a TH-cam video with a capping route I can try to copy, I can't even choose a map in the training mode to try it out on. Because the training mode is just as garbage and pathetic as it was in T:A. What is it they say about the definition of insanity?
@@zalamael What kind of promises from what I remember Mick seems grounded. Ghosts are useless on their own we need spectator mode first and ability to control said ghost. So there is plenty of time to implement such things.
@@MarkoLomovic I would disagree with you on that. From my perspective, I couldn't even begin to show you a capping route, I just tend to make it up as I go along, which isn't optimal (me slow). I can of course watch pro player videos showing capping routes, but I can't even choose a map to practice on in the training mode, because it is so bare bones and lacking any kind of care. A low effort afterthought etc. And yet, people like me would ask for something like that as a matter of high importance, because I want to learn, I want to practice, I want to get better at the game, and learn how to cap. I remember when T:A was in its death throes, it was due to a lack of cappers, and every match devolved into D stacks, because no one wanted the responsibility of capping. And yet, if we had the tools to help us develop as players, I wonder if that would have happened. I just don't want to see it happen again, but I am getting the feeling that Erez couldn't care less about onboarding for new players. It is starting to feel like empty promises. And lets face it, the Tribes community is old and crusty (no offense), so it needs new players who are willing to stick around and keep the game alive. To me, that is far more important than new maps or cosmetics etc.
From my own very introspective perspective, I don't think it will succeed. In fact, I think Erez has already given up on Tribes 3, he seems to be liking the idea of Honor Ball becoming the new Rocket League, and I fear that is his new focus. And truth be told, the idea of paying £18 for cobbled together asset flip, is quite frankly insulting. On the other hand, we have Midair 2. Which is a game that makes me feel sad, because I miss far too many shots because I still don't understand inheritance. And it feels really slow when you first start gaining speed. But at the same time, Midair 2 was made by passionate members of the community, whereas Tribes 3 just feels like a cheap and easy cash grab in the wake of a failed project. As much as I want to play Tribes 3, I have no faith in it, or HiRez. I would rather get spanked repeatedly in Midair 2, until I learn how to aim, before I will give Erez a penny of my money. And truth be told, I think he has already abandoned Tribes 3, now that he thinks Honor Ball will make him some nice easy money. Honor Ball will never be Rocket League, I just wish I could see the look on Erez's face when he figures that out.
@@hyped5958 That isn't the point, or at least my point. I can afford the game, easily, I earn more than enough to cover the cost. The issue I have, is my time, as it is far more valuable. Should I give Erez some money, and play the game he seems to not care about? Or should I spend my time and money on a dev team that DO care (as in, the Midair 2 devs). I guess it is a case of take your pick, choose your poison etc. I am seriously doubting Erez right now. I genuinely do not believe he cares about the future of this game. He has already moved on, to his new Honour Ball project. So I guess, time will tell. In the meantime, I wont be paying him for an asset flip. I would rather give the money to the Midair 2 devs, they seem like the real deal, but more importantly, they have the ability to choose their own path, and make their own game. For better or worse, I would actually trust them more than I will ever trust Erez as a project leader.
If you have a game that you love, thats great. But midair will never have players, and it isnt likely to ever develop radically more than it already has. T3 is already great, its cheap, its here, and even if it only lasts a few months, we can enjoy it while it lasts.@@zalamael
Agreed, Erez has given up. He told himself that difficulty is what killed T:A, not his pay to win model, then he began saying the same thing about T3. He could listen to valuable feedback and make the necessary changes, but instead spends his time banning anything outside of blind praise from his discord. Stellar decisions all around.
It's pretty simple. To be a successful Tribes game it needs vehicles, private/dedicated servers, mods, user made maps (which aren't absolutely tiny), and spectator mode/recordings. Client side scripting would be amazing. These things are incompatible with Hirez-people developed games which depend on pump and dump microtransactions and servers run by the company. The cost of company run servers mean the game either dies or becomes unbalanced because of pump-and-dump.
So why isn't T2 more popular? It has all of these things (and is now free). I don't mean this in a reductive way, I do however, challenge the notion that simply replicating old tribes will be successful in 2024.
It will not succeed it has poor balance, lack of depth, lack of discernible direction, lack of features and systems. There are too many better alternatives.
37:08 I legit played T3 the entire day that day, all the way until we got knocked out of playoffs. I got up at 7AM, and only stopped for food and small breaks, and iirc our run ended somewhere around 6 or 7 PM for me.
Hands down was the most fun I've had in any playtest so far, and I just hope the game is successful enough that I can get the feeling of that day at least a few more times.
Thanks for playing for team FishStix ❤️👌🙏
never heard of the tribes games but youtube randomly put this on autoplay
massive fan of fps games and hearing someone be this passionate about a game is the best ad for me
Look up Tribes 1 montages, like perro or best of the best. Cheers.
Tribes 3 is my first Tribes games and it's fun af so I can't wait for it to come out tomorrow and I hope it succeeds.
Hell yeah
When i started playing tribes, it was the large teams that made it fun. You didn't cause your game to lose. You could spend the game putting up turrents and repairing your base and still have fun.
The game is so simple now that unless you are a fragger or capper, it's hard to get the feeling that you are contributing.
I think they created Outposts to give people more things to do. Tbh heavy armor and medium armor are super good right now. But I get your point. Base gameplay is at a minimum in this game.
42:52 - regarding vehicles, honestly, they are such a weird remnant of old Tribes games. Modern Tribes I absolutely share Erez's sentiment on this, vehicles are completely redundant in a game where you can rain artillery down from the air with a heavy or go 350km/h as a light. Vehicles offer no functionality that your skates and jets and weapons don't already do. It's redundant game design.
My most played Tribes game is T1 so I don't have a strong affinity to vehicles. That said, Shrikes are just cool and fun. Some of T:V's vehicles were super unique like the hopping tank and car you could spawn out of. Bombers where you n the homies could hop in and dominate in T2. I think these offer newer players a fun experience to play with friends which is a bit missing from t3
thx for the coverage brosef! first time player of tribes here, old enough to remember the other games just for whatever reason never tried them.
We have a surprising amount of first time tribes players who are already able to compete against vets in pickups and scrims! Love to see it
I think you're absolutely right about tribes needing to be fun casually with friends. I think if they can crack that then tribes can really pop off the way everyone (business + players) wants it to.
It seems to be the key in the modern era of gaming!
i absolute loved tribes veng and ascend, the first for the harpoon weapon and the second for the big generator fights, with ninja stealth ambushes, snipers and motorcycles
Hope we get the grappler in T3 eventually!
Subscribed. This was a good recap. Knowing that you're really involved in this game and still very optimistic is good to hear.
I started playing tribes when you did (seems were like the same age ~36), and played a lot for 1and 2, but only casually. I played some Ascend but we know how that went. Glad to say I'll be building a PC for the first time ASAP, specifically for T3. I'm hoping to get on by Tuesday but I'm not sure if parts will arrive on time.
To be honest, I'm not optimistic that the game can find mainstream success, there are so many concerns with the lack of roadmap and community management issues. All I am hoping for now is for it to be successful enough to keep at least a small crew of devs dedicated to updating it over time, so that the Tribes community can continue to be united under one game/banner and we can have tournaments, PUGs, drafts, etc :)
@@omgitsfishstix there are so many games competing for peoples' time today - it's not realistic to think any game has a good chance of mainstream success. With that said, I hope the reception is better than expected and they're able to work on it for a bit, like you said. I'm just excited to see another Tribes game. If I had heard about it earlier than a month ago, I probably would already have built a computer for it.
im a movement shooter lover, only found out about this game like 2 weeks ago, played the playtest and was utterly shocked at this game not being free to play, i dont knoww, why they didnt go for this route as the game is not that well known to begin with. i feeel like going f2p would be really helpful for the player count
Yeah for sure it would be good for player count... I hope this monetization strategy works with all my heart tho
@@omgitsfishstix same here, only got to play it a swift 2 sessions but would love to play it again, am not sure if I like it enough to justify spending 20 bucks tho
Im buying this shit the second it comes out, if anything to give more momentum to the game.
Saaaame. I hope they give us nostalgic skins, voice packs, and sounds cuz I'd buy a lot of that.
@@omgitsfishstix agreed, I will literally buy everything. Not that I care about cosmetics but we gotta make sure this shit doesn’t fail.
Scar tissue is real... I love playing Tribes, I've done 70 hours during these playtests, but man even dropping a 20 makes me cringe thinking it maybe the last version I see until the playerbase leaves and the game sunsets again. Edited: I had to say I'm the 69th comment and you have 69 thumbs up, sorry I can't add another now :P
The option for spinfusor inheritance is doing my head in, do I leave it at default? Do I put it all to 100? Or do I zero it out... what settings do you prefer?
I do 100/50 to emulate Tribes 1/Midair. You do you.
As a die hard Tribes 1 player back in the late 90's, and skipping all of the following releases, T3 Rivals feels really good. The core Tribes DNA is here. It's amusing to see people compare it to whatever recent tribes they played. There was a period with T1 where skiing didn't even exist. You had to install inventory scripts. They don't actually see the true evolution of the series.
wanted to show my friends the game while it was free but now that its going to be like 25 cad i cant see it happening. hard to justify when the game is as niche as it is. hopefully the game doesnt fail though.
Let us hope and pray that it goes well and gains some traction on steam. Would make me very happy.
Honestly would rather $25 with limited MTX and no Battlepass over free with Battlepass and MTX
@@WardenPlays i honestly prefer it as well, but cheap as it is its another barrier of entry on a game that has a high chance of failure. best case scenario would be something like splitgate from a couple years ago where the game is really popular for a bit then drops off once people move on, but with enough of a playerbase to sustain itself. the issue there is that splitgate was free and while it had a high skill ceiling it was still less than tribes. if they had a longterm f2p playtest with a proper advertising campaign to get people to try it before a price tag gets added id be a lot more hopeful.
Barely anyone knows tribes 3 is coming out. As a t2 veteran, I’ve been out of this game for decades and only just found out about this game by chance
I can't tell if this is encouraging or discouraging. But yeah I've gotten a ton of comments from people who had no idea the game existed. Marketing will be important.
same here. Found out about the game some days ago by luck. t1 and t2 Veteran here.
youtube recommendations ftw@@Masterdirtyboy
As of today, they aren’t advertising EA on their own Tribes Rivals website.
Just found out today from steam upcoming games list, had like 1k hours in t:a
Will this run on my Voodoo3 286
Pentium 3 or Pentium 4?
See you on the 12th Fish!
The game feels really good. I just hope enough people find it. It's such a niche genre these days. They did a good job in both ascend and rivals when it came to keeping the tribes feel with modern updates. I hate that the greed gave it such a bad rep, even though it's deserved. I just wish it wasn't towards one of my favorite childhood games.
If it fails, I just hope we can host our own games and keep it somewhat alive in the end lol.
I ve played t3 today but it was pretty boring, matches were too short, they lasted just few minutes, and always ended 5-0 for my team. I didn't understand if I was playing with humans or bots.
The first 5 matches are bot matches then it becomes real
@@omgitsfishstix ahh, I'll give it another try then, thanks
nice video 😼
mark the calendar !! march 12th !!
Can't wait!
^^ This hit all the nails on all the heads Fish...
Thank you for having such a positive attitude along with others toward the franchise I love the most. -Drivel
It's hard to compare T:A player count with T1 and T2, given the market was entirely different in 1998/2001. Lots of homes didn't even have a PC back then, and a lot of those that did were on dial-up. Gaming as a whole was still fairly niche compared to now. If you compare T2 against Quake 3, it held up quite well for a FPS at that time, especially one so unique and challenging.
Tribes is always going to be a little outside the mainstream at best, and there's only so much you can dumb it down before you lose what it's supposed to be. If you're making a new Tribes game, you should know that going in and your business model should account for it. I get the impression Prophecy/Hirez kind of wing it when it comes to making games profitable. Start making the game now -- pouring money into it -- and figure out how to make money off of it later (hopefully, otherwise kill it to save the company).
Seems like even Prophecy don't expect the game to sell particularly well. I hope they have a plan to support it even with a small number of devs even if the game doesn't go gangbusters.
Tribes looks like a wild fun time but I'm so scared as I'm not that good at fast paced games but I love competetive team games. Still hoping to try it out in EA though
Try it out! 16v16 is a pretty safe place to learn, no one is gonna dunk on you for not playing your role on a team that big :D
@@omgitsfishstix Tried it for the first time, had an absolute blast! Thanks for the encouragement! Hopefully I can improve at a decent rate haha
Something was said in here that actually makes me a bit worried about the future of this IP as is. You mentioned how a streamer may not enjoy themselves if they jump in without someone to hold their hand and explain; all that is tribes. Wouldn't that go for just about any new player? If thats what it currently takes for someone to start having fun, Tribes is screwed. You also compare tribes to league of legends as a reason why its technicality is not a major issue, this maybe an inappropriate comparison. Reason being is that every other MOBA was at least 80 percent league of legends, and the entire genre as a whole is basically dead short of a handful of games. Above that Tribes Ascend died heavily due to similar reasons, as well as a great number of other games with high skill such as Quake Champions, Paragon, and LawBreakers.
Spec mode? Don’t need it if there is streaming
Disagree. Esports and competitions and frag videos and training and vod review are not the same without spec mode.
Am I the only one who _did not_ find that erez quote about GA to be so offensive?? He simply laid out exactly how things were from their end. There was nothing mean spirited or disingenuous about it. He simply said GA was losing them money, but at least it was a useful learning experience for their later games.
Honestly I misread that quote a bit. The other quotes in that article were worse though.
Hydrate FishStix, good ramble.
Hope I am able to either build a Pc or buy a good laptop, would not be my first time playing with touch from the laptop
Also if they want to make profit for this game I know exactly what they need to do.
74 concurrent players right now. Why is there a paywall?
Do these people actually think they're in a position to be charging admission?
Beggars can't be choosers, -Hirez- Prophecy.
Really appreciated this take. Appreciate you being a big voice in the Tribes 3 scene. Keep it up. (￣ー￣)ｂ
If we go back to trailer they released month ago that is exactly what t3 needs to be. If you know nothing about it seeing that stuff makes you feel something special. Issue here is translating that into environment where it can grow. We are not going to have any kind of mod support nor ability to host servers and to me that is just death sentence. Game like tribes has immense potential same kind that UT or Quake does. But how can we grow organically and show the world what this is about unless we have our box to play in. We would be in same spot even if we had big maps and vehicles, since issues presented are same.
Game like tribes needs some kind of ecosystem very similar to how CS does. CS doesn't teach you how to play and improve community tools do. I know it is not fair to compare t3 to CS but at least would could have some Ski maps and servers, some FFA/TDM/CTF you know place to chill and socialize and get better why enjoying the game. Simple things like that can go very long way in giving game the growth it needs in addition to game being developed. That is the path to eventually get to a point where we can have Big tribes as well again.
I think more than anything they need to figure out a way for new players to enjoy their first experiences playing T3, ideally, with friends. Making it easy to hit midairs may help a little, but it also means new players are getting /hit/ by midairs all the time too from better players. I think the game needs better onboarding, and more stuff that will be fun to do with a friend together in a server even if you're a scrub.
@@omgitsfishstix Stuff like midairs and tweaks like that can come it is not what is going to make it or break it, neither will any single game mode. They need to facilitate community growth and tribes has potential to accommodate many different communities. Big maps and vehicles doesn't do anything on its own since that can be just as daunting as any other game mode without proper support. Since just how you can get dunked on smaller mode you can feel pointlessness of being on giant map while getting dunked on.
Honestly I couldn't care less what kind of modes we get since we can get some of them eventually but what concerns me is that there is zero plan to support private servers and moding because without that I do not see long term future, and that is the reason why I mention CS since it wouldn't exist today as we know if it didn't have it as its backbone.
@@omgitsfishstix Salty Octopus did an interview with one of the lead devs, if I remember right, his name was Mick Larkins. All of the promises that Mick made, in response to the questions he was asked? Yeah, none of his promises have made it into the game.
In regards to the onboarding. The question was asked, can we have ghosts, time trial ghosts, that can teach us capping routes etc. Mick said yes! Erez doesn't seem to think that is a priority. And yet, as a noob, I want ghosts to follow, so I can have at least 1-2 capping routes I can practice, and use.
Worst part is, even if I watch a TH-cam video with a capping route I can try to copy, I can't even choose a map in the training mode to try it out on. Because the training mode is just as garbage and pathetic as it was in T:A.
What is it they say about the definition of insanity?
@@zalamael What kind of promises from what I remember Mick seems grounded. Ghosts are useless on their own we need spectator mode first and ability to control said ghost. So there is plenty of time to implement such things.
@@MarkoLomovic I would disagree with you on that. From my perspective, I couldn't even begin to show you a capping route, I just tend to make it up as I go along, which isn't optimal (me slow).
I can of course watch pro player videos showing capping routes, but I can't even choose a map to practice on in the training mode, because it is so bare bones and lacking any kind of care. A low effort afterthought etc.
And yet, people like me would ask for something like that as a matter of high importance, because I want to learn, I want to practice, I want to get better at the game, and learn how to cap.
I remember when T:A was in its death throes, it was due to a lack of cappers, and every match devolved into D stacks, because no one wanted the responsibility of capping.
And yet, if we had the tools to help us develop as players, I wonder if that would have happened.
I just don't want to see it happen again, but I am getting the feeling that Erez couldn't care less about onboarding for new players. It is starting to feel like empty promises. And lets face it, the Tribes community is old and crusty (no offense), so it needs new players who are willing to stick around and keep the game alive.
To me, that is far more important than new maps or cosmetics etc.
Solid Stream
11yrs old? Which one was your first? STAR SEIGE ALL THE WAY.
T1. I'm 35 now. We old.
From my own very introspective perspective, I don't think it will succeed. In fact, I think Erez has already given up on Tribes 3, he seems to be liking the idea of Honor Ball becoming the new Rocket League, and I fear that is his new focus. And truth be told, the idea of paying £18 for cobbled together asset flip, is quite frankly insulting.
On the other hand, we have Midair 2. Which is a game that makes me feel sad, because I miss far too many shots because I still don't understand inheritance. And it feels really slow when you first start gaining speed. But at the same time, Midair 2 was made by passionate members of the community, whereas Tribes 3 just feels like a cheap and easy cash grab in the wake of a failed project.
As much as I want to play Tribes 3, I have no faith in it, or HiRez. I would rather get spanked repeatedly in Midair 2, until I learn how to aim, before I will give Erez a penny of my money.
And truth be told, I think he has already abandoned Tribes 3, now that he thinks Honor Ball will make him some nice easy money. Honor Ball will never be Rocket League, I just wish I could see the look on Erez's face when he figures that out.
$18 is the price of a movie and popcorn at the theater that gives you 2 hours of entertainment. That's nothing if you play this game for a few hours
@@hyped5958 That isn't the point, or at least my point. I can afford the game, easily, I earn more than enough to cover the cost.
The issue I have, is my time, as it is far more valuable. Should I give Erez some money, and play the game he seems to not care about? Or should I spend my time and money on a dev team that DO care (as in, the Midair 2 devs).
I guess it is a case of take your pick, choose your poison etc. I am seriously doubting Erez right now. I genuinely do not believe he cares about the future of this game. He has already moved on, to his new Honour Ball project.
So I guess, time will tell. In the meantime, I wont be paying him for an asset flip. I would rather give the money to the Midair 2 devs, they seem like the real deal, but more importantly, they have the ability to choose their own path, and make their own game. For better or worse, I would actually trust them more than I will ever trust Erez as a project leader.
If you have a game that you love, thats great. But midair will never have players, and it isnt likely to ever develop radically more than it already has. T3 is already great, its cheap, its here, and even if it only lasts a few months, we can enjoy it while it lasts.@@zalamael
Agreed, Erez has given up. He told himself that difficulty is what killed T:A, not his pay to win model, then he began saying the same thing about T3. He could listen to valuable feedback and make the necessary changes, but instead spends his time banning anything outside of blind praise from his discord. Stellar decisions all around.
It's pretty simple. To be a successful Tribes game it needs vehicles, private/dedicated servers, mods, user made maps (which aren't absolutely tiny), and spectator mode/recordings. Client side scripting would be amazing. These things are incompatible with Hirez-people developed games which depend on pump and dump microtransactions and servers run by the company. The cost of company run servers mean the game either dies or becomes unbalanced because of pump-and-dump.
So why isn't T2 more popular? It has all of these things (and is now free). I don't mean this in a reductive way, I do however, challenge the notion that simply replicating old tribes will be successful in 2024.
@@omgitsfishstix Because people don't care about old things. I really do think T1 given a modern graphics look would be successful in 2024.
It will not succeed it has poor balance, lack of depth, lack of discernible direction, lack of features and systems. There are too many better alternatives.
No.
cant wait for this "game" to bomb
Go be useless somewhere else
You must be fun at parties
I truly hope that you find joy, peace, and the ability to love yourself someday.
@@BrittaneeSpearz 🤣🤣