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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2022
- For some reason, a lot of people have been thinking I'd call this game Sonic and the Secret Apples. I don't get why. The title is clearly referring to the 7 World Rings. I think people are confusing them with apples, but those are in every Sonic game and completely different.
This video could have ended up very different. I was having such a rough time early in the game that I thought I'd just finish the story and call it quits. But I persevered and discovered a lot more about the game, and found it a bit more enjoyable.
Finally got to the first Kishimoto game. And it's interesting how much of his design ideas you see in this game that still exist all the way up to Frontiers. Will make for interesting topics in the future.
btw, does anyone else think Sonic's run in this game looks terrible? The way he almost squashes and stretches looks really bad, and his animation plays way too fast when going at high speed.
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Two Sonic and the Secret Rings reviews in one day 😫
I was just thinking that. Such serendipitous timing.
Right? What are the odds? 🤣
What's the other one?
@@cking1340 a TH-camr called The Geek Critique made a sonic and the secret rings review today.
I mean it technellly came out 2 months ago on patreon
"MAKE BELIEFS REBORN" Intensifies.
The most underrated slap, although it plays way too much 😂
you are giving me so much inspiration by unspooling all of this sonic knowledge that i usually have to hide from normal people
Yeah same but then no too also.
"unspooling"
This game was one of the most influential titles in series history.
I dare anyone on TH-cam to prove this visionary wrong.
And so was the music
How? I love the wii, but most of the wii exclusive sonic games sucked ass to play.
@@erc3338 Whenever I see gameplay of it, I’m always reminded of what came after it.
@@JaredtheRabbit Oh, was it the first true Boost game? But I thought Unleashed/wiished was?
Sad they stopped the story book games imo, I really love the idea of sonic in public domain stories even if I think this game plays bad. Like Sonic and the treasure island or sonic and the Hound of the Baskervilles silly but hilarious. I also like how this series existing implies that sonic is a huge classic literature book worm, its a weird but funny detail. Wish they kept the story style of these games for more tradition gameplay styles. Its also interesting how stuff like the retical for the homing attack started in games like this. Honestly I really wonder what the process for designing these games mechanically even was, especially considerin the formula at the time that existed as well as how this was made while 06 was in dev crunch. Its especially weird since secret's mission structure would have absolutely been more fittin for an adventure one style game honestly with how that game's levels often were semi branching and open at times. That mission style sorta reminds me a little of mario 64 or sunshine in a weird way with how it tries to reuse level design to put new objectives and spins to extend their playtime but if you applied it to a much more linear game. Rather odd.
Its so weird dark spine sonic is one of the only examples of what sonic character's hands look like without gloves, along sticks the badger. Same for how he's shoeless, one of the only examples of that in the games themselves. Sad its stuck in this game as well as excaliber sonic, its an excellent design and I wish could see more of what it could "do".
Sonic and the Winnie the Pooh lol, since that's a public domain story now.
Sega allegedly held a poll after Black Knight came out asking fans what mythos they’d like to see explored in a hypothetical third game and Greek Mythology won, but obviously we didn’t get a follow up so Sonic and the Argonauts is tragically lost to time
Well, I wouldn't say he was a book worm, since he pretty much says he doesn't know anything about these stories. Shahra compared her role (genie of the ring) to the story of Aladdin, and Sonic says: "Don't think I've read that"
This game could have become cult classic if it got a new release with regular controls and more polish in some areas like tutorial and starting speed. It's would end up not too different from boost games.
I just played this on an emulator with a wii remote and found the controls just fine. Now look at this meme where I depicted you as a soyjack and me as a chad.
I like listening to this game’s soundtrack in the car and imagining the car behind me being so confused that the person in front of them is listening to Arabian Sonic music. 😁
I’ve been jamming the OST for car rides or on guitar for years now.
This was my first 3D Sonic (LMAO) and the music made me rock-loving hooligan.
Shout out to Unawakening Float for that breakdown!
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 Nice! Keep rocking on man. I feel like this game should have bad music, but somehow it is actually amazing. Not my favorite Sonic OST but it has a style of its own and the rock is awesome to listen too. I only have two Seven Rings in Hand and Let the Speed Mend it on my Sonic Playlist but I should listen to more of the soundtrack.
Let the speed mend it and blue on the run is gonna get me pulled over one of these days lmfao.
WHO'S GONNA ROCK THE PLACE
PLACE
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@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 that double time part of unawakening float legit gives me life, the first time i listened to that song I was not expecting it to just suddenly switch up and go faster.
3:19
I’ve beaten Secret Rings and Sonic doesn’t really move on his own, you have to tilt the Wii Remote away from yourself to move him forward. And come to a bit of a stop when you hold the Wii Remote straight.
This was one of my childhood games, and for nostalgia purposes, it’s hard for me to hate it despite being aware of it’s flaws. U can’t tell me that Darkspine Sonic was easily the coolest thing in the game next to the Gorgeous level aesthetic.
Hey Pariah I love all your Sonic reviews & the in-depth way you break down nuanced mechanics of gameplay is something I don’t see from any other content creator. That being said, I’d love to hear your opinions on the miscellaneous aspects of these games - like your take on the music, the graphics, which levels did you like most etc. Stay rad my dude
Music I don't really have much to say on. Almost every Sonic game has great music. And I've been kicking around the idea of making a whole big dedicated video talking about the visuals of the Sonic series. We'll see.
@@Pariah6950 well us sonic fans like the validation..., yea this game has great music
Seeing sonic and the secret rings in 60fps feels so weird for me and idk why
Dude! You’re a machine…a video “printing” machine….a Sonic video printing machine …. And I love it 😍
It's really funny how on the same night, we get two very contrasting videos on Secret Rings from two Sonic Tubers I admire.
I will try to argue that (some) the jank you experienced was caused by trying to emulate motion controls via dolphin with a normal controller. Try it with a real Wii Remote. I swear this game used to be fun
While I didn't enjoy the game much I can say that it was a workout with the wii remote. Old wii games always gave that rush of adrenaline and make you sweat if you really get invested in them.
19:10
I honestly agree that this feels pretty great.
And with the break stomp, you still have a way to completely stop yourself for any platforming moments.
Ever since I found you from the video on the story of Heroes, I have waited for this day. This game was my childhood.
i am so excited for the story videos on secret rings and black knight
This was my first 3D Sonic game and after playing most of the 3D games including Frontiers this is still one of my favorite 3D sonic games.
Now don't get me wrong this dose have the worst control in the 3D line up but the good story, the various designs of each location and the Phenomenal Music for each level it's easily still in my top ten sonic games
What kind of timing is this that I JUST played through Secret Rings for the first time *yesterday*, and you AND TGC upload your Secret Ring videos on the same day *today*?
Time to play Black Knight for the first time if you ask me.
I still feel like playing it for the graphics and music.
I’m remaking secret rings in p06 and I actually didn’t know big was in the levels. I’ll have to add that😂. Nice video.
Been loving this series dude, cant wait for the black knight video since it's one of my favorite games ever
It was a miracle that this game got a sequel... And I'm glad it did, because Black Knight is pretty special to me despite the mid gameplay.
Also, its a shame this game is so painful to play because a lot of the locations you run around in are _really_ interesting! I don't think any other Sonic game would be able to pull off having levels in a rainy sunken ghost ship or a magic flying manta ray castle.
This game might have been more bearable if the motion controls were more polished and responsive. Fast paced platforming gameplay just wasn't designed for awkward motion controls. I seriously wanna see someone speedrun this game out of curiosity.
At least Black Knight does it better with the nunchuck.
Look at the tas for this game it inspired me to play this game last year
1:17 "Sonic and the Secret Wings"
I didn't know the Arabian Nights had wings!
We're getting closer to the Unleashed review! I'm so excited!
I played this game a lot as a kid and I quite enjoyed it but at that time I also didn't know what bad game design was so I guess I just liked watching the hedgehog run on the screen. Although thinking about it, I spent more time on the party mode so maybe I just wanted to play Mario Party.
This is my go to channel.
This game was actually one of the first Wii games I had. Back in the day, I didn't had the chance to get that many Wii games, so I spent most of my time playing it. The game is downright terrible, but I could appreciate a lot of things in it, like the main story stages, the final boss and unlockables, which btw, I didn't even know that Big was there. That's crazy. But the one thing I would consider definitely the best thing in the game, is the multiplayer party mode. It gives you a break of all the frustrating stuff in the game.
Happy 17th Anniversary Sonic and the Secret Rings.
Jesus I just finished the last video, this was uploaded 6 minutes ago
Your output is wild, good content though
Newer sonic fan. Love your vids bro.
I remembered having more nostalgia for this title, but almost halfway in video and now I'm questioning my childhood 😂, tho I remembered preferring black knight more than Aladdin here(I ironically first started the game after seeing the animated one way back 😂)
11:00
I actually used the break button a lot in Secret Rings.
Especially for when I want to stomp as Sonic wouldn’t carry any speed after the stomp, and more importantly, it makes the platforming less worry some.
Edit: 11:47
Yeah, this is what I mean or at least at most.
Just got the CD soundtrack for this game today at 11:00a.m. and it's the Seven Rings In Hand: Sonic and the Secret Rings Original Sound Track CD and I'm listening to it while watching this! 7:46p.m. 11/14/2023
suddenly realized there's a bunch of Pariah videos I haven't watched yet so we're going on a deep dive
31:07 He said it! He said RING!
damn that was quick
Maybe it's not relevant, but I actually thought you would've discussed the multiplayer aspect of the game.
I know it's not a big part of the game but it's still a cool thing that has a bit of content to it.
We pretty much got a sonic Mario party that wasn't completely awful like Sonic Shuffle.
“Sonic tolerance” so goddamn true lmao. Sadly my tolerance level has weakened with time 😣
1:17 "Swonic and the Swecret Wings"
One thing about the jump, originally, in early builds of the game, you didn't have to charge your jumps. You can just jump like in a normal game. Sonic also didn't walk like molasses on default. No idea why they changed it
Only 3D Sonic game I’ve never played.
hey, i’ve got a few questions for your plans for this series.
i think you’ve already said you’re covering sonic x, but will you be covering other sonic tv shows/anime? like the ova, toon/boom, the upcoming sonic prime, maybe even the early american ones?
will you be covering the sonic toon/boom games and stuff?
will you make videos on the comics/manga? personally, i’d love to see your thoughts on the fleetway series.
will you talk about mobile games like the runners and dash series?
maybe i’ve given you some ideas…
Its funny how you never refer to rings as "rings." Its pretty much different in every video (apples, gems, coins, etc). I was VERY confused at first, but I figured it out eventually.
I remember hating this game as a child but I used to play the mini games a lot with my siblings
Tbf there are extra missions that do use entirely different chunks of levels that you dont play in the get to the goal missions. Every world kind of has 2 acts technically sand oasis has the indoor arena where you collect rings where it loops, Dinosaur jungle has another area where it loops. Sometimes you'll play stages in reverse. Levitated ruins has 2 acts in it. Pirate storm has a looping area, again the skelaton dome actually has many unique areas in the stage like the actual skelaton dome you can't explore in the main acts. Night Palace actually has 3 acts kind of the undefeated challenge the rampage mission and the regular mission.
So when I go back to the this game I usually play the die hard rampage and get to the goal challenges. That said I understand why you don't love this game its not great....
But the erazor djinn boss is memorable that one for a lot of reasons I think that one is a good boss the ifrit is memorable too and has a great sense of scale. The levels are pretty fun come on.
Also this is the first game in the series that you dont 100%
Disagree with a lot of points in this video (but agree with some). For one thing you don't really seem to argue why a charge jump is necessarily bad. I think it's really badass, he's running so fast he needs to build friction to have enough resistance to jump. I think the main thing that would throw people off in this game is that 1) it's an autorunner, 2), it has a charged jump, and 3) it has motion controls.
In the special book there are hints for Big's locations including what stage they're in, iirc.
I actually have no idea what the development process for Sonic and the Secret Rings was. Well, knowing SEGA I imagine it was yet another game with an unhealthy development process.
The reputation of the Sonic franchise had already tanked from Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06. Sonic and the Secret Rings really doesn't help the situation.
Actually: People loved Sonic & the secret rings when it first came out, because of 2 reasons
1: The game was only Focused on the Sonic gameplay “And playing as Sonic, is awesome”
2: The game came out in the time were the Wii was Cool.
But it seems like History has forgotten that because in 2008 … The Wii became not very cool. The Wii(s) motion controls was seen as an gimmick (in the negative Way) This is the reason why Secret Rings was recieved so Well because the game was made when Motion Controls was “The Future”, and the reason why Black Knight Got such an negative reception is because (They gave Sonic a sword), and because the Wii(s) motion controls was seen as an gimmick
THIS is how I find out Big is in this game. I didn’t have a 360 or ps3 when 06 dropped so this was my big Sonic title of that generation until I finally got Unwiished… God help me lol. Even then I reached your exact conclusions here.
You gonna make a video about the weird party games in the storybook series?
I've been thinking about doing a video or maybe small series looking into multiplayer across all Sonic games. So it'd be featured there if anything. But I'd have to find people to play a bunch of Sonic games with first.
This was my first Sonic game
25:17
I enjoyed the game, and loved collecting the Fire Souls, so I didn’t mind these bonus missions.
Wish you were told which ones were mandatory, and I understand why everyone hates them though.
I’m fine with the auto running because I look at it like an entire game based around the idea of the Sonic Special Stages but with normal levels. When you bind it to a controller it feels like a weird mix of the Heroes Special Stages and the Boost games.
i LOVE this game SO MUCH
honestly thought you were gonna name this video sonic and the secret spray cans
9:18
To be honest, I never hated the jump myself.
It’s not great, but it never felt terrible.
And I feel like with Secret Rings, the controls and level design does work well with the jump. In my opinion.
O engraçado é que este jogo tem um visual até que muito bonito e é bem polido em relação a bugs. Se tivesse no mínimo os controles do Black Knight seria uma excelente experiência eu acho
Exatamente... esse esquema de controles que foi escolhido foi um lixo puro... Pode até ter uma estorinha legal mas pqp quem aguenta esses controles podres ainda mais que o wii remote não é lá aquela coisa de sensibilidade... É uma bosta pura pra falar a verdade e esse jogo se quer faz uso do motion plus pra ajudar... Nem falo do sistema de níveis que é lamentável...
@@jonathanlaurent3059E isso poderia ser evitado se o jogo tivesse suporte para o controle de GameCube, jogando no dolphin mapeando o controle o jogo melhora infinitamente do que jogando no controle do Wii
i've noticed you seem to almost always avoid discussing the visuals of these games outside of a few select moments such as the backgrounds of the stages in rivals 2, is there a reason for this? i'm interested to know what you think about how these games look
I finished replaying this game like two weeks ago, and I remember my final thoughts being, "For a game that expects precision controls, it has some of the least precise controls I've ever seen."
Nota sonic thing but a nice suggestion i think you'd find interesting
Have you played Metal: Hellsinger?
if not you totally should, if yes, I'd love a video in your style talking about it!
9:17
oh so it's like every skateboarding game except it slows you down instead of speeding up lol
I am not gonna lie, I have played this game for years, and it's one of my faviorite Sonic games, and yeah sometimes in emulation is kinda mess up ...
But yeah, this game is kinda fun, and if you upgrade Sonic at the max becomes fun for some people, but yeah, we all have preferences
I remember when I was like eight, I wanted Sonic Unleashed for the Wii but they got this one for me instead. Didn't even bother to get past the tutorial 💀
I want a remake or remaster of this game SO BAD
19:37 If only Sonic Frontiers had this option. Must have forgotten to add the good controls and actual momentum options on the skill tree.
Nice
20:49
I should try this myself as I hate how freaking slow they are.
14:37
Also used this a lot too, and I at least got used to it, as you have to have a specific timing with it.
But it’s still not that great.
Missed opportunity with the motion controls. They could have included a fishing game. Call it "Big Mode"
Secret Rings would have been great if it controlled like a regular Sonic game. In my opinion Black Knight pulled this gameplay style a lot better. I actually think Black Knight is a very good game.
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I think kid me was just blind because I don't remember finding this game so hard
technically each world has 2 levels (mabye not pirate storm i forget) but the second one is always barebones and mission based
1:19 I heard Sonic and the Secret Wings?
Venting your frustrations with this game made me lol. I resonate with a lot of them. Despite the shit ton of jank it's one of my favorite Sonic games and Kishimoto's best game imo. (haven't beaten Frontiers yet)
ah the first sonic game I owned
good god what a mess these controls are. but honestly, I'd totally be down for a remake that kinda just reconfigures the controls to play more like the boost games that came after
This manages to be the worst Sonic game I've played yet one of my favorites. There's so much cool stuff going on with the game's music, its story, and all of the locations. If I wasn't tired of old stages having been brought back for the past decade, I'd love to see Night Palace be recreated with how much graphics have improved since 2007.
17:06
Idk if it’s just me, but I never felt a bad feeling while starting to play the game and never felt like what made Sonic good was locked off.
Granted I have a high tolerance level. Not even pop-in, Chris Thorndyke, or level length ever effected me. Ok maybe not level length, especially if the game has lives but still.
Edit: I do agree though that Sonic controls very good when he’s upgraded, which yeah, now I better understand what people are saying now.
10:08 I'm not totally opposed to the idea of having to charge a jump, but how could they think putting it into a Sonic game where you have to react to obstacles within fractions of a second is a good idea?
I can get why you wouldn't mention it (or notice it even), but one of my personal biggest issues with Secret Rings is the way it handles its EXP system. Specifically, if you're trying to level up quickly, or if you want to maybe grind a level and get abilities early, you have to deal with a system that *takes away EXP gained if you take any damage*.
It's the most infuriating fucking thing ever, especially in speedruns. You can lose out on EXP by taking hits, and if you take too many, well I hope you enjoy playing the mission AGAIN and trying not to get hit as much this time.
Damn. That's how that works? That's fucked.
When are we getting the Secret Rings Video for the Party Game Mode? You usually split parts of these games into multiple videos & the Party Games were the best part of the game & clearly where most of the development time & refinement went when making this game.
I mean … I have seen some comments from Pariah that his friends are not as good (And i Think not as uninteristed) in Sonic as Pariah, and the party mode is a thing you Can talk about in 1 min and say it just “Garbage”, The end
*A SONIC GAME WITH RINGS IN THE TITLE*
*"APPLES"*
This game is definitely one of the mainline Sonic games. Not only was it marketed as the next mainline 3D title but it appeared in the Generations trailer showcasing the evolution of mainline Sonic games: th-cam.com/video/sQDHGCh7reA/w-d-xo.html
I feel as though it not having a stage in Gens and it getting labeled as part of a 2-game series when Black Knight came out created this legacy. I think the reason it didn’t show up in Gens was because it had a strict 3 zones per era rule or the more likely scenario, the game was rushed. Yoshi’s Island was also a mainline Mario title but nowadays no one sees it that way because it has aplenty of sequels which made it a spinoff franchise. I feel as though the same thing happened with Secret Rings where Black Knight changed its legacy to a spinoff game, however not even that can be fully said because Black Knight is implied to take place after Unleashed therefore Black Knight being this spinoff and Mainline hybrid while simultaneously being a sequel to Secret Rings and a sequel to Unleashed. These games were also made by Sonic Team, the mainline Sonic publishers.
Knuckles Chaotix is spinoff because it has no impact on the overall series and is never referenced. It is a Knuckles spinoff. Whereas Shadow is a mainline game because it continues the story from Heroes and Shadow’s conclusion about the questions he had in Heroes were concluded THERE. 2006 also concludes the Shadow arc. So in a way Heroes, Shadow, and 2006 were a trilogy in some sense.
I don't define a mainline game as its story relevance. A mainline game to me is defined by how it follows the game design of the series. You know, what makes a Sonic game a Sonic game? How far can you deviate before it stops being a Sonic game and becomes a spinoff?
@@PurplePikmin383knuckles chaotix is never referenced because it was retconned, 06 was as well but thats still a mainline game, knuckles chaotix literally started as a game with sonic and tails
I love Secret Rings
Every single time you bring up the whole ,,playtime"-part in your videos, I have to think about Little Nightmares 2 and Luigis Mansion.
Yes, this is a bit off-topic but I think it's a good example for what you are talking about when you mention playtime in your Sonic videos.
Little Nightmares 2 is a game which cost roughly 40€/$ upon it's release
I don't remember the exact price, but many people complained about the game being way to short for such an expensive price point.
It got to a point where most people didn't really talk about the game itself anymore, but just the playtime required to beat it...
Funny enough, Little Nightmares 2 is my favorite horror game of all time, especially because I actually enjoy time-attacking the whole game.
Why do I enjoy that? Because the game is decently short which makes replays of the whole thing...just straight up fun, in my opinion.
It's a solid experience from start to finish without any stretching of the playtime, which makes the whole thing really focused and fun.
It's the same thing with Luigis Mansion 1 compared to Luigis Mansion 3.
I can play Luigis Mansion 1 anytime I want because that game is just really short, enjoyable, and I have a good time time-attacking the whole game due to it's short length.
Contrary to that, I only played Luigis Mansion 3 once due to that game being far longer.
If I sit down to do a run of Luigis Mansion 1, it's a commitment for 1 afternoon.
If I sit down to do a run of Luigis Mansion 3, it's a commitment for, most likely, a few days.
In my opinion, Luigis Mansion 3 is a worse game because of it's length.
And I think it's the same with Sonic games.
Almost every single Sonic game, in my opinion, gets worse by the logic of ,,we have to lengthen the game".
In this case, Sonic Team tried to lengthen the game by putting all of the extra missions in there and giving you a leveling system which takes time to actually...level up.
But in fact, how do these 2 things actually improve the game?
Wouldn't the game be far better if we just remove all the fluff and get to the point?
More playtime doesn't equal to more fun.
Some of the most popular games of all time are extremely short and I would argue the shortness of these games contributes to the fun these games provide.
Megaman games and especially Megaman X1 come to mind.
But also the Classic Sonic games or Freedom Planet or even games like Ori and the Blind Forst or Metroid Zero Mission.
More playtime usually equals to games ageing very poorly in comparison to short games.
Personally, I would play Super Mario Sunshine over Super Mario Odyssey any time because of just how much faster 1 run in Sunshine is over.
It's something I can do afternoon sitting while Odyssey takes me multiple days.
And if I actually want to time attack Odyssey, the game just becomes very boring due to how simple and easy the whole thing is...
One final example for me would be oldschool Pokemon.
Oldschool Pokemon games are, obviously, pretty long, but for JRPG standards...they actually aren't that long.
These games are pretty short if we compare them to, for example, Final Fantasy or Tales of games.
And I think that is one of the reasons why it's so easy to replay Pokemon games in comparison to, for example, Final Fantasy 12 or Tales of Vesperia.
Personally, I like both of these games way more than any Pokemon game, but it's still far easier for me to replay Pokemon games because...Pokemon usually is not roughly 70 hours or more long.
I'm curious now.
Mind taking a detour after Unleashed and playing the two Nights games? Would love to hear your thoughts on both games stories
I don't really care for NiGHTS. The gameplay doesn't grab me at all. I could maybe look into the stories, I guess.
@@Pariah6950 Well, unfortunate. I was curous because, as you said, the 2010's is when the stories slip in quality, so I was curious how you would react to Nights story for Wii, because I think Iizuka wrote it. At least before eventually saying how much the 2010's stories suck or whatever as many have done so.
@@tonycorona8501 My thoughts are much more nuanced than just, "they suck". You should expect that this point. There will be lots to discuss. Including the positives.
@@Pariah6950 Can't wait, and yeah, I should expect it. You havent dissapointed me!
(i wonder if he turned on the 16:9)
Of course. I always mess around with options any time I start a new game.
@@Pariah6950 could you share your main skill set btw? im thinking of picking the game back up... yet again, hoping i dont bounce back so hard this time.
you spelled the title wrong, what are rings? i always remembered it being secret apples
Sonic and the Secret Froot Loops
I actually like Secret Rings. And I don’t hate the controls, even if they are not that great.
Edit: 12:24
Agreed
Edit again: I also agree that the level design is still ok.
Secret Rings is really odd for me. It feels like Sonic Team wanted to make a Sonic game that has that idea where to more you play, the better it gets. However unlike something like the classic sonic games where the skill comes form understanding a physics based platformer. Secret Rings will always seem to suck at the start no matter how good you are considering you have to unlock smooth control. It's dumb but hey. But once you get to them high levels with a bunch of abilities I can't deny that the game's pretty fun.
Whenever I'm replaying secret rings i use i my 100% save file because why would I use a new save file
As someone who GREW UP wit this game(2nd 3D game/2nd or 3rd Sonic game) I would say it's a "MID" game that I LOVE(I'm not the best at the game but once I'm into it the jank is nonexistent lol). From ur SA2 vids I know the spectacle isn't the most captivatin thing for u but I LOVE it lol. U def highlighted the bulk of y this game tends to be hard to like or stick with after a point but while those things bother me aswell the Highs even it out for me(hence "mid" I love lol). Tho I will say the final boss while cool in a lot of ways FUCKIN SUCKS mechanically for me. U didn't experience it cus u used a typical controller but on vanilla wii-mote u have to shake TOO FUCKIN MUCH(It's def a workout lol). It'll prob never happen gut I wish this & BK would get the Skyword Sword treatment for switch lol
Yeah I dropped this game faster than those frames in slow time mode,
Air dash/boost, jump and homing attack should never have shared buttons
This video i was laughing so hard 😂. I like this game and i will die on that hill. I was 13 when this came out & i thought the motion controls were a neat idea but i 100% get why people hate it. For nostalgia's sake i went back and got every fire soul and gold medal. It is not a task for the faint of heart 😂 HOLY CRAP what an ordeal.
Finished
Imagine a port of this game with better controls😢😢😢😢