Green Beret Reacts to Terminal List Ep4: Detachment | Beers and Breakdowns
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- Hope you guys enjoy this episode of Beers and Breakdowns, in this episode we break down Terminal List!
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7:25 the rifle was given to reese by his father. It's a custom 300 win mag. At this point in the book he can't go back to his home to get any other weapons other than what he took when he went on the run. Also it plays to his benefit because when the Wyoming sherif investigation decides that the round was a hunters mistake shooting over a hill during deer season.
Very important context that was lost in the translation from book to screen.
@sammyg4806 yeah sooooo much that people have a problem with makes soooo much sense in the books.
It's not even a lever action. It's bolt action
They need to pin this comment
@yamaharider58 Every time they post a video about terminal list. I'll be sure to give some context on the things they change or things that don't make sense.
I always thought SEALs were the best because they somehow fit in all this combat training between their book and screenplay classes.
🤣
Don’t forget the top secret cosmetic courses
From what a Navy Officer who visited their combat Base overseas stated . They are also some party Animals, coming back from missions only to hit Jack Daniels and Coke. While making lude and Cruel unruly remarks 😂
The reason they had to put them in the corner for a time out☠️😭
@@jacobdavis9654 good God....that's what they look like WITH makeup on? 😱
"Can't you remember 4 names???"
"The guy's got brain cancer, give him some credit man"
"FOUR NAMES"
I'm fucking dying here lol xD
Hilarious… Buck: “this show sucks”, Kurt: “give it a chance bro”, Buck: “F**k that, it sucks”…yet the entire episode is still so entertaining…you guys are awesome!😂😂😂
For the coordinated shot scene, since he's using a Benelli M4 he was utilitizing one of the features where you can load a round into the chamber and push the original shell back into the mag tube. So he loaded a slug rather than buckshot for the precision shot.
it looks to me that he pulled the bolt back and hold it with his right hand then port loaded a shell.
It’s a Beretta 1301
Kurt's new hair style added +10 to the show's coolness factor ❤
Sean: "Intestines don't make good handles."
Ed Gein: "Hold my beer..."
Sean watching 12 Angry Men: "These guys just sit in a room and talk!"
I gotta say...Kurt's fro is GLORIOUS
As someone who enjoys Terminal List. I love seeing him rip the show apart 😂
It was mostly entertaining the first five episodes. But it got boring after that. It reached a crescendo after the SF shootout/assassination, and then just dragged on for four more episodes.
The first couple episodes there was good tension. Was he crazy and killing innocents, or was it really a conspiracy? After that is resolved in his favor, it is a pretty straightforward revenge movie.
I didn’t like it at first but then when he saw his friend at the bar and turns out he wasn’t. I was in for a bit. I think I skipped an episode or 2 and enjoyed the ending
Loved the book not fan of the show. Hated how he held rescuing Liz over her head in the show.
@Combatographygood call.. the way these 2 were laughing.. it seemed like they thought it was ridiculous
Hey guys!
It's a good show. Period. I read all of the books and there are a lot of missing details that you don't get in the show.
Ill break down some of the major ones:
1. He used his hunting riffle because he wanted the police to think that it was a rogue hunting bullet that killed the idiot in the SUV. Jack Carr even wrote that yeah, he could have used a ghillie suit and a pimped out DMR but it wouldn't tie to this whole thing of him masking himself as a hunter (in case someone runs into him)
2. James Reece didn't write the hit list on his daughters painting according to books. He also added names to the list throughout his killing spree - that's why he wrote then down
3. When raiding that cartel's compound. Reece knew that a smart plan of action would be to post up as a sniper and just shoot the guy that he was after. He opted for doing the raid because he wanted to get revenge on his family. As for why Ben Edwards rocks a Benelli, no fucking clue...
4. He actually didn't kill the cartel guy with the tomahawk but one of those Seal commanders/officers at the end of the book. Most of the cartel house raid was done in the dark and using the NVG's - according to the book
yeah and the last kill is completely different from the book.. not on his boat while he is just traveling to die.. it happens on the island, while Katie is being held hostage.. you know
6 underground, Olympus has fallen, London has fallen, angel has fallen, wrath of man. I dont know if youve done any of these but I think you'd enjoy picking them apart. Love the channel, keep it up.
@@michaellong7136 but also, they are suppose to have an sf sniper operating with them and be using tactics. it is ridiculous, but none the less, entertaining. I think theyd get a hoot out of picking it apart.
@@SpicyMilk_ttv I bet we would have a good laugh with them picking apart the scene where they infiltrate the penthouse 😂
@hunterboy9780 honestly. Between that and the boat when they use the magnet. Buck is gana lose his mind
@@SpicyMilk_ttv I cant believe I forgot about the magnet scene
@@hunterboyo 🤣🤣
The rifle he was using was due to the license for hunting in that area. So then it would be hard to deny that it wasn’t just a stray hunting round that hit the target because it’s hunting season with THAT specific rifle model and caliber
So glad you’re talking about Seal Team, I love that one too. Would love to see you guys review it too!
on it!
It's great news to know that's SEAL team reaction is finally comingggggggg.
BTW, I think Sean could be Max Thieriot brotther in the show and I'd definitely buy it for real.
looking forward to doing SEAL team
Seal team is the most underrated show right now. Change my goddamn mind I dare anyone.
its so good!
and how many episodes have you watched? ☺
do you know how many times the action was interrupted by random non-sensical male bonding heart-to-hearts in the last season?? Do ya? Do ya? DO YA??!
“Like you taught me, boss-dog... always improve your fighting position.”
@@veensenn ground breaking dialogue! pure genius!!! i fainted upon hearing that line, as it had never been mentioned before that you should improve your fighting position while you're fighting...The sheer genius and sublime wisdom in that line is practically inhuman... Angels must have written it... 🥲🥲🥲🥲
They explained it in the novels: Reece uses a bolt-action rifle to make it look like a hunting accident. The novels are genius, to be honest. Any chance of you guys doing other movies by Michael Mann after "Heat"? "Blackhat" or "Miami Vice" maybe? Best wishes:)
for sure! and that makes sense!
exactly since it is written by Jack Carr, a former SEAL
You're mad about the shotgun but it's also one of the most accurate depictions of ammo count in history 😂
I think the Terminal List Beers and Breakdown are the best ones, due to the fact that you guys argue so much and its so damn funny. Can't wait for the Seal Team reactions, love the show. Also, 33:58 he loaded a slug round into the shotgun to take the precision shot, so no spread
I’m with Sean on this one. The terminal list was okay but it wasn’t anywhere near what I thought it would be.
This show basically ended after the shootout in SF. Everything after was filler, IMO.
This will sound petty, but where I lost respect for the show was when he's on the run in Marin County. I know the area well, and it was incredibly clear that was somewhere in the San Gabrielle mountains north of LA, not Marin. No way anyone is hiding from that many pursuers in Marin. There are hikers and bikers all over the place there, you're not just going to escape and evade. Also, there are no rivers in Marin, just a few creeks that barely flow except during storms.
The “artistic changes” made to sensitize and make the story work for TV is what killed it for me. They degraded the James Reece character so much and altered character history. Marco wasn’t Tom Reeces friend. Katie is frm Eastern Europe with a deep connection to the Reece family and they fucked up that story line up. They turned it into a turn key action show when it really was supposed to be a deeper story and a crazy set up for the later books/seasons
@@lonergr3107 I didn't like the Katie changes. I'm with you there. But I did also hate her character in the book too...they just somehow managed to take dumb character development and make it more dumb AND non-sensical on top of it, for the movie. It didn't get better, it got worse.
I did think that taking some of the more disturbing, needless and gross aspects of some of the kills out, was a good choice tho. And I did like the fact that Reece does not stop after EVERY. SINGLE. KILL to immediately self-doubt via exposition dump for no apparent reason. The book makes so little sense, it's amazing. The character exists as a monologuing tool basically. He does not feel like a real person, he feels like a 2D tool with the depth of a video game first shooter "protagonist".
I don't get the bird thing...like why we have a ton of bird flashbacks is beyond me... They have zero clue how to portray flashbacks aparently and not even the smallest bit of inclination to do it well. PTSD flashbacks are tied to specific events not metaphors. Unless you want to tell me that the bird scene was traumatizing to Reece, there's zero reason why that would be his main flashback.
@@lonergr3107 also, the ending was a joke. it's like saying ''and then he woke up".... why? just why...? and you can see it coming from like 10,000 miles away. Had it been less obvious maybe it would have worked better. Maybe. But, it was so freaking obvious. There is SO much foreshadowing. It's nuts.
@@brendanh8978my exact thoughts during his whole time in Marin lol
I’m so happy that seal team is finally getting a review I’ve watched that show since the beginning and always thought it deserves more recognition
Yes!! Just what I was hoping to watch today! 💪🏼
I can't get enough of this channel. You guys are great. Thank you for the great content.
SEAL Team Is AWESOME!!! Every season made me shed man tears about how it made me feel so deeply about the bonds of brotherhood amongst warriors. Please watch and breakdown every ep!!!
and this comment makes me shed real tears due to your so called "man tears"... 🙄😓😓😓
Yes!!!! Buck love SEAL Team!!!
Aww, they screwed up the Mexican Cartel house!
In the book Reese comes in at night, solo, with a suppressed M4 and a hatchet. He clears several rooms thinking the whole time how much easier it would be with a team.
YESSSS I WAS WAITING FOR YOU GUYS TO DO SEAL TEAM….. it’s obvious the consultants take the lead on that show
obvious for what? the gadgets in the back?? LMAO! 😋😂😂😂
Not just on the show but in it, at least one castmember is former tier one.
@@jblitzen didn't he quit tho?
@@andrabook8758 Damn bruh... Ur h8 is on volume 10..
What a better way to get through a hangover with you guys.
The banter between you two is classic 🤣 - no disrespect to Abel, but watching these reviews with you guys are the best
“I get it, he has to be serious cuz he has a tumour, right?” Lol. That was a good call back.
Hes EVEN got an ARCOM???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and bucks reaction to that is hilarious. Writers definitely jacked that up
Kurt is a vibe.
Kurt over here growing a whole spec op Afro
Master of unconventional hairstyle
WOO!!! Seal Team! Can't hardly wait till you put out that review!
This was one of the funniest B&B to date 😂 great jobs guys
I got to my duty station been watching your videos since the beginning getting my paperwork in order to go to selection. You have been a great help and a big motivator. Keep doing your thing!
get after it bro!
The over-the-top gut move is from the Native American tribe in Cuylerville known as "The Torture Tree", where they go even more over the top. It works well with the tomahawk, and the maker of the famous tomahawk, Winkler Knives, also did the props for Last Of The Mohicans.
I swear buck is 100% right about the show glad to see he enjoys seal team though which is way better than terminal list
oh, gawd....I am soooo sorry for you that you think that show is great. Society has let you down, you have let yourself down, I trully weep for how low your standards for good TV are... 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 😭😭😭😭😭
btw, your username is amusing...I am familiar with sheep dogs. They agree with me on this show! 😈
@@davidjob4909 YES! :) and if you don't believe me, you would have to prove me wrong :D.
@@davidjob4909 and in case you think i'm kidding, hell, no!....I could totally prove it!
@@davidjob4909 try me >:)
I feel like the Army Commendation is said to make it seem like its rare for a SEAL to have an Army Medal. I didn't take it as them making it seem better than a silver star, just being strange a SEAL has one meaning he has done some strange things. Even the way she says it doesn't sound like she is trying to make it sound super prestigious, more like "and somehow he has this kind of thing." Also I find it funny everything I like about the show, like the character build up, is what Sean hates lmao. I also find it shocking you like Seal Team as the couple episodes I watched it seemed super cheesy. Maybe I just watched a bad episode or two idk. Gonna have to give it another shot as it seems like a show I would love.
Give it another chance. There is si much action, so real everything and good character build
Love hearing your banter dudes. Just found this channel and have had a great time going thru the vids.
Lever actions are great for follow up shots. The rifle featured is a bolt action, which isn’t as fast as a lever gun, but is equally capable in proficient hands.
26:30 On the reloading: You never know how much of that scene was cut in post-production.
In the book it tells how he did recon, had his DOPE book, took weather, wind and temp observations. He tracked that target for a week I believe. The hill was actually a particular place where no cell service was, so there's no chance to have the kill recorded or EMS called.
And the rifle was a custom made rifle that was super accurate that his father, also a Team guy, had made and was something Reese had for a single shot kill to appear as a hunting accident.
Buck clearly cant read
OMFG SEAL Team Rocks!
4:08 You are right about Action Movie 101. In the 1985 movie Commando Arnold Schwarzenegger is a is retired Special Forces operator. His daughter is kidnapped and he goes on a one man mission to rescue his daughter and seek revenge. It is the same basic story line.
See, there is a movie about you SF guys, "Commando"
"we film them in batches" it makes so much sense why some are more unhinged now lmao. Love it
I don’t understand how we’re meant to remember he’s a seal in this episode he didn’t once slowly emerge from the water
facts right here
Always so funny to watch you guys. Have a good one 🤙
I have read one of Jack Carr's books and have listened to his podcast. One point he makes is that these novels for him were cathartic, because he had felt betrayed by politicians and higher-ups in the military. It is one reason that some of the bad guys are admirals and things like that. So yes, it was "just about a guy getting revenge," but I think it is much deeper based on that.
Can't wait to see episode 5 reaction.. that has the best action scene in the series 🔥
Can’t wait to see a review of The Unit!
The reason for the hunting rifle in the books, is because he planned it for the first day of gun hunting and it was his first revenge killing. The police investigating it called it an unlucky, missed horizon shot. It helped Reece stay under the radar because they were looking for an inexperienced hunter, not a Navy Seal assassin.
hate it or love it, its was great seeing Chris playing this role. i think his acting was top tier. Also SEAL team show is by far one of my all time favorite shows and idk how many times i commented trying to get you to react. Max as Clay Spencer and his evolution through the series was amazing.
About the thing with the intestines… that’s either a Viking or Native American way of executing enemies. Reese is literally “getting medieval” on his his ass.
9:09 saw an 05 ford escape hybrid spin and roll pretty similarly right in front of me on a curved overpass last year. Not the same exact circumstance but they’re really not kidding when they stamp that rollover warning on the sun visor.
Great to hear you're going to be doing SEAL Team! Freaking love that show so much. I don't think another show or movie has give us such great CQB scenes. There is especially a 3 episode arc in Season 3, I believe, that is absolutely fantastic. Some of the drama gets a little redundant, but every episode gives you at least 20 minutes of kicking in doors.
are we counting flash backs? bc in that case you're totally right, it's action packed! And the action all feels important and pivotal and not repetitive and dumb, at all.
You know what is possibly the bestest decision ever for a movie series? To try to center the story on the main character's TEAM of guys, while keeping all the bad guys super generic, AND then....also have close to zero character development for the main guys. Just keep everything as generic as possible! Just 2D people everywhere, as far as the eye can see....And every single time the audience thinks they MIGHT get a glipse of something interesting about the characters, you should just have them monologue cliches instead.
And then, when you're done with that, you should literally copy and paste dialogue from 1 episode to the next, as if we're all still living in the 90s and no one can binge watch all the episodes back to back. That's not going to get dumb and repetitive at all. Nope! Oh, yeah and definitely kill main character's wifey asap, so he can then proceed to have a string of meaninless flings while he monologues the same thing to himself over and over again.
I won't lie, I did cry a bit at the ending scenes with wifey flashbacks....but it was mostly frustration and self-pity that I put myself through watching this crap show and it's never, ever going to get better. I know that, they know that...we all know that. There was almost a glimpse of what REAL character development could have looked like...She was one of the best actors in this series, and had almost zero scenes, bc she had to die, so that the main character had to be given shitty formulaic lines and side plots to do instead! Like a hampster on a wheel. We're watching movie series which are the equivalent of watching a hampster on a wheel and rooting for it to ''win". It's not healthy, guys.
imagine for a moment... just a moment... if all the characters were fleshed out, and the action was actually there, and the viewer understood who the bad guys are and the show felt like it has real steaks, not just generic everything....How much more satisfying all the REAL action could have been. I could actually care about door kicking! Easily one of the most fun shows to hit screens in the last decade. EASILY! no contest.
But no. No that was not possible to do. Instead we have to watch all the life get sucked out of this concept, bc someone made the decision that what people really want to see is hampsters on a wheel instead, copy-pasted dialogue, and random cheap drama. Yep. Yeah...
@@andrabook8758 Wow... you need to relax, rofl. 🤣
@@lathspell87 no, i need the people who make movies to quit it with the repetitive stupid crap.
@@lathspell87 you have not noticed how literally everything on TV lately is a re-run, re-imagining, re-telling, etc. lately? Name 1 original thing that's come out in the last 5 years? They used to have new material all. the. time. And there's been nothing but re-imaginings for years now. All formulaic. All with an agenda. All the exact same.
The point of the rifle was to make it look like a hunting accident if I remember the book correctly.
LOVE Terminal List!!!!
Comparing Seal Team 2017 to Terminal list is very bad of you. Seal team is a masterpiece and had 6seasons and even got renewed for S7
Lmfaaaaaooo “when’s the last time your M4 just magically broke?”
Marines: well let me tell ya…
Well if they stopped using them as hammers....
Sean, you're just wrong & that's ok. We're all wrong sometimes. thanks for another great episode Gentlemen 🤣🇺🇲
Buck is right! I am big fan of Jack Carr books. I have all of them that are publicated in my country ( Bulgaria). All 4 of them. And that's why i expected more from this show.
Seal team is great but early seasons. Still i am excited to see season 7.
Beers and breakdowns is my favorite TH-cam show!! You are great guys!!!
In Vietnam my Dad had a buddy who attacked a bunker with a shotgun and took the bunker. My Dad thought it was foolish.
I understand your frustration. I love the show, but the books are amazing! There are 6 books. Jack Carr said he’s working on a spin-off show with Taylor Kitsch, who plays Ben (his bestfriend) then he’s starting season 2, which is based off True Believer (Book 2). Great vid btw! Stay blessed guys! ✊🏽💪🏽💙
I enjoy the book more than the show because of the detail and further explanation of certain things. I even went to the length of annotating the margins with I only do with field manuals and non fiction books.
I agree this show is cheeks. I also agree that Seal Team is the best fictional modern military media in existence. I never thought the dude from bones could play a grizzled seal team leader, its honestly wild.
SEAL team would've been a good show if they hadn't given the characters the personalities of teenagers in a high school drama
I messed my back up in a snowboarding accident when I was 18 so I was unable to serve but I love your beers and breakdown and I find it hilarious how similar SF grunts are too roughneck frame Carpenters I guess that's why I love the show you guys are awesome keep it up don't ever change😂😂
I LOVED Buck’s reaction to this. I am a huge fan of The Terminal List series and all SIX books… it’s ok if you don’t like the show! That doesn’t mean you’re a bad person; it just means you have different tastes in shows. 😂😂😂
thank you! some of you want me to choke on a ham sandwich over this lmao
I had the exact same reaction to the arcom scene as you upon my 1st viewing.
Love this show it was pretty good
Buck is accurate about watching Terminal List while doing errands. Before they reviewed this show months ago, i was literary cleaning my house while the show was playing 😂
Love SEAL team. As someone who never served, I loved the story of the operators and how it affected their lives. I don't want to ruin it but it got better and more involved in later seasons. I would love to hear from someone who served how accurate that is.
You should get Scott Fox (Full Metal) or Tyler Grey (Trent) to come on as a guest for one of the many 🤞 Seal Team reviews
For the record, the Distinguished Service Cross is the award that is closest to the Medal of Honor. Not the Silver Star. If you were put in for the Medal of Honor and ended up with a Silver Star it means somewhere along the line they downgraded your award twice... Finally, the Army Commendation Medal (ARCOM) can be given with a "V" decide (Valor) or "C" device (Combat) according to regulations. In fact, I got one for a particular firefight in Afghanistan in 2006. The problem is that this usually occurs when your leadership should have recommended you for a Bronze Star and someone else downgraded it, but still needed to signify that it refers to a combat action rather than administrative action. In my case (and the case of many others in my unit) we weren't downgraded. Our leadership (being the jerks they were) recommended us specifically for the ARCOM with "V" device instead of the Bronze Star because they were recommending each other for the Bronze Star for administrative accomplishments. They were deliberately downgrading their initial recommendations so as to not overshadow their own recommendations for the Bronze Star for administrative actions which (by today's military tradition) is not what the Bronze Star is for. I kid you not, one of the E6s in my unit got a Bronze Star for running a chow hall which did not even exist where we were located. It was just an excuse to recommend their buddy for one. Meanwhile, actions of valor in a firefight received the ARCOM with "V" device... Bad leadership all around.
Also, if Buck did his own show, there would be a silent episode.
and more death then john wick
I hope they make a TV series out of every Jack Carr novel and you review them all. Watching Sean's rants on this one are better than any other "Beers & Breakdowns" episodes. So entertaining.
The “hunting rifle” comes from the book. Law enforcement rules the man’s death accidental since hunting season had just started. It was well within the realm of plausible and likely a stray bullet from a hunter caused it.
Looking forward to the Seal Team reviews!
i think the army accommodation award thing was suppose to be an easter egg for military people watching the show. :)
Accommodation award? Is that for booking great hotel rooms while on "deployment"? I thought only the Air Force gives those out.
he used a hunting rifle because he wanted to make it look like a hunting accident. like a stray round on opening day of hunting season. that way it wouldn’t look like murder and nobody would get suspicious…yet.
You hating it kinda make it more fun to watch 😂
see! we all win lol
The worst part about the football watching scene was that it starts with her saying "We just need a stop, one stop!" (meaning her team is on defense). Then the announcers are saying oh and he's off to the races, then it shows her cheering for the offense who is about to score? The only explanation is a turnover, but there was no indication of one.
Also he’s using slugs the whole time, they’re just peddling new guns like the beretta 1301 shotgun and James Reese’s BCM recce 14.5 inch.
Funny how Jack Carr keeps on saying that he made this for veterans to enjoy, yet here is Sean tearing it to shreds 🤣
Thank for your time. Always a pleasure. A film you might want to put on your list. Not much action and tactics till the end. But you might find interesting. Even if you don't want to put on utube, you might enjoy. Year 2000: Proof of Life with Russel Crow. Cheers Gents! And as always...Hold Fast My Friends
Nice breakdown. Think I will go put Terminal list on.
shows awesome if you've read the books, helps understand why things happen how they do in show.
The shotgun guy (forgot his name lmao) loads a slug before shooting the dudes holding the hostages. He clearly pulls back the charging handle to get the buckshot round out and puts a slug in.
But seal teams is about devgru, not regular seal teams. Besides Taylor Grey is an ex delta operator, and the show has a lot of veterans
33:55 I think he was supposedly putting that slug you're mentioning later.
Can't wait until you comment on the the part where he falls down an entire mountain, snaps his body in two but still manages to finish the mission 🤣
seal team is so good i also like the new SWAT series and strike back show is awesome
Surprised you didn’t comment on Reeces rifle setup. It was very on point with what a knowledgeable gun owner would build. AimPoint optics and magnification, Cloud Defensive OWL, probably 10.5”. Rather than the normal Hollywood rifles that are in most movies or shows that was bought straight from a store and put to work. I don’t agree with the shotgun either, but Taylor Kitsch would’ve made a great James Reece, also, in my opinion. Great actor who had the honor of playing the late and great Michael Murphy in Lone Survivor.
yes if you're attached or assigned to a SMU/ Joint units you end up with a lot different service awards .
silver star still trumps an ARCOM
@@FNGACADEMY just a bit
Bro when the ARCOM with c device had me dying🤣🤣🤣
lol,Buck's angry rant is always gold.
Kirk with the fro!! Haha ayee
I finished reading the book might watch the series. But for now let's enjoy beers and breakdown. Let's bang some hammers
Ben Edwards just really wanted to try the Beretta 1301.