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- Waymo recently expanded their service map, it connects the metro Phoenix area to some of the eastern cities. We are testing Tesla's FSD 11.3.6 versus Waymo on the same starting and end point.
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Wow, I am blown away by how good these comparison videos are. Great work.
Re: FSD vs Waymo. LiDAR is a throwback to the original DARPA Challenge (which LiDAR “won”) when hi-res cameras weren’t available. Because of its lack of resolution (not needed on DARPA’s essentially off-road courses) LiDAR’s basically become a technological boat anchor that will forever keep those relying on it from success. However, I tend to side with Sandy M. on FLIR to compensate vision during atmospheric interferences.
Thank you! Future is now! I wish Europe would be more open for this as Arizona is. But there is too much interest of the legacy automakers to keep this as small as possible 😞
Europe is pretty open regarding this. It's just that bureaucracy is slow.
@@EinzigfreierName level 2 autonomy (FSDBeta) should come to europe in 2024 (should be signed off by UNECE next month), with Level 4 + then due to be signed off form 2025... fingers crossed.
@@EinzigfreierName I think there IS interest in delaying this. If everybody just uses autonomous EV cabs, instead of owning cars, most auto makers will go bust. There simply will not be millions of cars parked up for 90% of their lives as now, just cabs driving every minute that they are not on charge.
@@oldbloke135 Most countries involved in this don't even produce cars. And some that do (like Germany for example) have prelimary local regulations for autonomous driving in place because they don't want to wait for a EU or world-wide regulations to become a reality.
Thank you so much for this informative video. No speculations or opinions, just facts and reality. Looks like a lot of work went into it.
OMG watching Waymo is excruciating.
Watching a car drive autonomously without crashing is excruciating. . . #1stWorldProblems to the extreme.
Watching a test car with test program is excruciating. It's like watching a test gamer playing the same level over and over to catch bugs. Drink Tesla coolaid more
@John Do then turn it off? But any way you slice it this is amazing engineering by both companies. . . :)
@@chrisspamtestit tastes soooo good.
@@chrisspamtest I do drink the Tesla Kool-Aid. . . I absolutely love Tesla, I own Tesla and use FSD all the time. But watching a car drive itself 21 miles is not excruciating. I love both technologies.
If you tried 11.4.1 , you will be mind blown
I’m on 11.3 something and I’m dying to get that update
Wonderful content. Can you try FSD Beta 11.4.1 in a video soon? It's a major advancement not fully indicated by the small number change between 11.3 and 11.4. Watching your channel from Tucson.
No need -- w8 for v12 major update.
@@tvguide4khv From Elon, 'As mentioned earlier, v11.4.1 has major architectural improvements. It’s actually much more than a point release. Should arguably be v12.0, but that’s reserved for when FSD is fully AI from video in to control out.'
@@mrmobius Why? There was nothing FSD could improve on.
It would only make sense to do a rematch when Waymo gets some kind of improvement. Honestly I don't think there's a point to a rematch unless Waymo starts being able to do highways. Otherwise it will just be more videos of "Who'd have guessed taking a highway is faster than driving through parking lots and suburbs!?"
@@truhartwood3170 really great point. It's an apples to oranges comparison right now.
Man imagine the next Tesla Beta has auto AI enabled like what they are doing with their Tesla bots? Self driving is here baybeeee
So, the TeslaQ headline is "Waymo kicks Tesla butt in parking lot". Apparently Waymo likes parking lots so much it even cuts through them in route, not really sure that's a plus ... [it isn't]
I'm looking forward to the day when Waymo never needs a realtime home-office supervisor and Tesla no longer requires a human driver to enable FSD, until then all comparisons, however excellently performed (as was this one and the last one of yours I saw), merely illustrate distinctions without much in term of long-term differences (assuming Waymo eventually manages highways and Tesla parking lots).
Regardless, thanks for doing the vid. It was fun and gently informative to watch.
Happy to see your video mentioned on _Tesla Daily_ .
Your high quality work and down-to-Earth approach deserves a wider audience.
Love the NHTSA‐approved highway driving!
Great work!! I don´t see how Waymo is going to make their economics work. Tesla aproach is vastly simpler, smarter and scalable
You don't see superior hardware and software economics work? You don't see testing for edge cases to cover the chance a fatal accident is economics? You don't see your life is economic? You rather be Tesla's guinea pig to make Tesla economic work?
You think no driver behind the wheel is simple?
@@chrisspamtest no, i think put a plethora of sensors and relying in ultra hi-def maps which needs constant update it isn´t
Waymo consistently drives with no intervention. Tesla doesn't.
@@nicolasziegelasch1550 have you seen teslas lates update?
Lesson for drivers: take the easy route. Lesson for developers: don´t take the easy route
Bro other have driver other doesn't.....huge difference....
@@Tashupost See it from the technology side, without considering regulatory or the risk involved and put both cars without a driver outside Waymo´s tiny areas. Waymo will not move an inch and Tesla will probably finish the route. Now, from the tech point of view, who was right?
@@Tashupost and Waymo has backup drivers for when it gets stuck. The only difference is someone is physically in the seat, vs hidden away somehwere
@@Tashupost
The Tesla driver didn't touch the controls.
@@Tashupost You realize the driver did absolutely zero on this trip?
I love watching these comparison videos! Tesla has definitely taken on a MUCH harder problem -- general navigation -- compared to Waymo's restricted environment. And, Tesla is closing the gap to full autonomy. I can't wait to get FSD 11.4.1 in my M3LR!
I just recently got 11.4.1 and am amazed all over again
And yet according to research firm Guidehouse Insights, Tesla is in Last place and Waymo and Mobileye share first place. WHAT are they looking at?
@@hornprof46 The paychecks from Waymo and Mobileye.
@@davidbeppler3032Doubt it. Tesla has more than enough money to compete with those companies financially and probably enough connections to lobby just as effectively.
It probably has more to do with the fact that Tesla doesn't publish their avg miles per disengagement unlike every other company. Waymo and Cruise report 51,000 and 540,000 miles per disengagement as of 2022 which is certainly way better than Tesla. Given my very limited experience with an older version of FSD and the fact that nearly every FSD video uploaded at least one disengagement (in one of DirtyTesla's videos a month ago FSD literally missed an oncoming bus which it would have probably collided with had Mr. DirtyTesla not disengaged) FSD likely has a disengagement rate of once every 10-30 miles at best depending on the area.
Waymo,Cruise, etc are safe enough to not need drivers and are thus level 4 the same cannot be said for FSD.
@@TheSpartan3669 I could put FSD in a loop around STL and it could travel 900 miles a day without disengagement. 7 days a week. For 365 days a year. Just going around and around and around.
Amazing how Tesla does all this with only cameras and doesn't care if a freeway is part of the mix. Waymo has every sensor available and is sooooo slow and makes you walk to the final destination in some cases. 🤦♀️
RIGHT?!?!?
The best part is Tesla haters would say ahh FSD is a Joke it's just level 2 while Waymo is level 4.. lol
LiDAR is a throwback to the original DARPA Challenge when hi-res cameras weren’t available. Because of its lack of resolution (not needed on DARPA’s essentially off-road courses) Lidar’s basically become a technological boat anchor that will forever keep it from universal use.
You forgot Waymo is also using HD prerecorded map of the area. The Tesla you can drive in a town without a map even available to Google and it would drive like that.
It does not matter what sensor one has but they have to solve the vision first .. then to expand capability can add se son not before
While I love that there are many people attemting autonomy, I think Waymo only taking very specific routes and avoiding certain places (right on red in beginning?) shows that they still have a long way to go as well, but then again it did a right on red later on pretty fine, so not sure why it does things like that. Even now on completely mapped and geofenced areas they for some reason take slower and easier routes, so seems like they aren't all that confident yet in their system. Not saying FSD always manages every situation perfectly yet, but at least they aren't taking a weird and much slower route just to avoid certain things. Obviously Tesla has the benefit of having no accountability as the drivers has to always be ready to disengage and take over, but still rather impressive.
The difference is Waymo is truly autonomous and Tesla isn't. Tesla has the comfort of falling back on the driver when it gets things wrong. Waymo can't do that and is liable for crashes, again, unlike Tesla. So, it's obvious their solution is going to be significantly more conservative in its approach.
@@polarpenguin3 Put both cars on the road in New York and send them to California. Which ever gets there first win. Waymo would not even move. Tesla would have to break the law but would get there in about 50 hours.
@@cheezeburger4338 Incorrect. Full autonomy, according to the NHTSA, is a vehicle capable of operating without direct driver input and without supervision. Full autonomy doesn't mean or imply a capability of operating everywhere or under all conditions. If Tesla solved FSD (no driver needed) in most of North America would you still argue that it's not autonomous because it can't drive outside of the U.S.? Self driving systems will pretty much always be "geofenced" in some respect because there will always be areas/conditions where the software cannot guarantee the sufficient safety standards. If the diminishment in safety is not worth the extra minute or two saved then it will opt for the longer safer route.
Tesla doesn't have to worry about this because it's not liable for accidents caused by FSD.
Also, Waymo and others can attempt any road just like FSD. It's just that they don't, because again, they are fully liable and probably aren't comfortable with the drop in safety (disengagement rate) that Waymo suffers outside of the geofence.
Tesla is getting rekt. Ty for making my alphabet stock cheap to buy. fools.
@@davidbeppler3032No, without intervention, the vehicle might crash. Even V12 nearly had a crash in Whole Mars Catalog's video. Imagine driving more than that. Unless it mainly takes the highway since stuff like that is generally easier.
Of all the Tesla content creators out there (that I know of) you are the only one to do this kind of comparison and this is your third one! Congratulations to you and Callas your dog. Love you and your contributions to Tesla knowledge. Keep up the good work!😎
No interventions on the Tesla is just mind blowing! Great work on the review!
OOOOO BUT I HEARD TESLAS WERE DANGEROUS!!! LOOK AT THOSE CRASHES ON THE NEWS!
Well actually the majority of those crashes are not due to FSD and they try to label false assumptions as facts and you would report on the tiniest of insignificant crashes while other self-driving services literally crash all the time freeze in the middle of traffic have their computers crash and yet there's nothing on those!?
You're right Tesla is just its own thing It is completely mind-blowing on the things we accomplish although definitely not perfect It is pretty good! And thank Tesla that phantom breaking does not happen to the degree it used to because that stuff is actually dangerous.
I am seeing more and more intervention free drives with my Tesla. It can make the 20 miles drive starting in Atlanta suburbs, onto major highways, and off into downtown city streets with no interventions.
In the Tesla drove like that nowadays on a UK motorway (similar to a US freeway) the owner would be racking up fines continuously for lane hogging. Each offense is a £100 fine and 3 points on your license. 12 points is a driving ban!
FSD Beta can be set to drive the speed limit plus a percentage. I set mine to 5% by default, and use the scroll wheel in the steering wall to adjust the speed up and down depending on the traffic around me.
One of my viewers showed me this and you’ve got yourself a new sub. I’ve been wanting to demonstrate something like this on my channel. This is great!
To answer your question about the speed limit, given I use my model 3 as a RoboTaxi for Uber/Lyft I’ve allowed it a 10% offset and generally it’s flowing well. Mine basically travels about 70-72mph 115 km/h (I’m a metric guy hehe) still efficient and not too slow!
I really want to get out to Arizona and do this sort of thing, maybe we can collab on something in the future 😬
wasn't expecting to see you in this comment section. If you ever have the chance, come to the DC/NYC region and do a self driving run...am curious if mew can handle DC/NYC traffic/drivers/pedestrians.
@@rajnadar6555 That would be a blast. If I can find a way to make that happen I definitely will at some point xD I think Mew would cry lol.
@@CYBRLFT hi, i'm a fan of your channel from italy, keep up the great work! what do you thi about elon's most recent claims at the shareholder meeting about fsd being possible this year? it seems difficult to me but comulative driven miles make me hopefull
@@spirti9591: He says that every year. Such claims are just no longer credible. Tesla does fine some trips which is great, but it's MASSIVELY inconsistent overall, and to be a broadly competent robotaxi network over a very large area, it has to be SUPER consistent, re not needing ANY interventions.
@@rogergeyer9851 it's way more consistent than you think, especially the lasts build. The improve Is superexpotential. It's coming in a 6/18 months periods not further
To be fair the Waymo drive would be pretty impressive were it not being compared to Tesla. But there is no doubt the huge advantages Tesla has over the competition. To arrive 30 minutes faster in Waymo's backyard is very telling. I don't think anyone will catch up to Tesla from what I am seeing. especially with recent updates.
If you look at Waymo's hardware effort and map material, you can see the lead Tesla has.
I see Waymo driving here everywhere, it destroys Tesla in autonomous capabilities. In pitch black night time, driving in congestions areas with a lot cars and people, just amazing how the Waymo is. It actually drives better than 99% of humans do. Also the Waymo is much much safer. Tesla drives like an a student with a permit to drive.
@@InteractiveDNA While that may have been true in earlier versions of FSD. Ever since moving to a single stack, Tesla has only gone from strength to strength. Tesla are actually trying to solve the much bigger problem of general ai. A system capable of travelling anywhere using purely Tesla Vision. Waymo performs adequately in a very small area, with good roads, good markings reasonable drivers and importantly good weather.. Tesla can do this anywhere, and recent updates have seen it taking on almost human like behavior including at night.
I have been following self driving from the start, and Tesla are set to dominate in this space as this video shows.
@@InteractiveDNA
Except it doesn't.
It was driving through parking lots when it didn't have to!
Imagine that on a Saturday.
It would have been even slower.
It also relies on constant map updates for road changes where the Tesla would negotiate the change.
Also move both cars outside the Waymo mapped area and the Waymo is a static box, the Tesla just keeps driving.
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You're fooling yourself
@@InteractiveDNAare you delusional or just lying on purpose?
As George Hotz described, Waymo is winning in the special Olympic.
Excellent video, and discounting the fact Waymo doesn’t yet use highways the complexity of its system is many times more complicated and has to be substantially more costly to integrate and rollout. Aesthetically the Waymo system takes the otherwise attractive Jaguar and turns it into a Rube Goldberg science experiment, a huge negative in the real world. Bottomline, The Tesla FSD seems to be in an entirely different league.
in a league that it, Tesla, still needs a driver. Loser league.
Re: FSD vs Waymo. LiDAR is a throwback to the original DARPA Challenge (which LiDAR “won”) when hi-res cameras weren’t available. Because of its lack of resolution (not needed on DARPA’s essentially off-road courses) LiDAR’s basically become a technological boat anchor that will forever keep those relying on it from success. However, I tend to side with Sandy M. on FLIR to compensate vision during atmospheric interferences.
@@Crunch_dGH I’m not picking winners, technologically speaking, as I spent my life working in the semiconductor equipment industry and know both that the best technology doesn’t always win and that things can change rapidly as markets or even regulations evolve. Tesla is well positioned and is wisely open sourcing their FSD technology. If theirs becomes a de facto standard that gives them a competitive advantage going forward. In a decade FSD of some type will be ubiquitous, it may seem a bridge too far today but that can change almost overnight. All you need do is look at the iPhone to see proof of how quickly an industry can be utterly disrupted. Tesla is now at scale, the more that legacy manufacturers internalize Tesla’s technology the stronger Tesla becomes.
What an excellent concept for a channel, and very nicely executed. I would be fascinated to see the cost for a human piloted taxi to do the same trip. Seemed the cost was high for the trip distance and wondered if the time was a factor in that.
The big difference is that one can own a self driving Tesla. I'll be taking a 1750 mile trip from Chicago to Phoenix next week. My Tesla Model Y will do 99% of the driving.
I still can't get used to the idea of a car doing 99 % of the driving, mostly on roads that it has never driven on before.
@@Kflash3782 Yes, I know the feeling. I'm even more amazed at how many people are pretty blaze about it. This is artificial intelligence in the true sense of the word, and will change everything.
I've made that exact trip several times. Only once, did FSD take me through Colorado, due to me not having full charge leaving Hellinois. If you see it taking you that direction, I suggest rerouting. Very barren areas there. My 2 cents.
@@markchrist4044 That's curious. The number and spacing of Superchargers along I-44 and I-40 are more than adequate. What is your usual route?
@Clara Smith the trip that took me into Colorado, I was definitely on some weird, mountain roads, no street lights, sometimes no cars for 30 minutes at a time. Too spooked to remember name of roads. Definitely not highway on certain parts. My typical path took me down to Missouri, across Texas, through Amarillo. Much better path
I just love how informative these are. Very well put together.
these are great comparison videos! thanks!
Great video, and enjoyed the comparison! Also appreciate the lack of bias, outside explaining current limitations of each system.
Can’t wait for the future . Going on road trips and just enjoying the scenery instead of falling asleep looking at lanes
Very good video. Objective and honest. Keep them coming.
Thank you so much for creating such valuable content !
You forgot to mention that not only is Waymo geo limited to easy streets at low speeds, but, it MUST have an HD map of everywhere it goes. It is not made to interpret it’s surroundings.
FSD currently is « stuck » figuring out each foot of its trip… eventually this will be important but for now, had Tesla used geo limitations like Waymo and cruise… not HD maps… it could have been in service some time ago.
Just imagine Waymo having specifically learn every area. It seems to me an very visually impressive approach and work, but suffers scalability.
The waymo still does make sense of its surrounding, watching for constructions, cones and what's not.
But probably know ahead which lanes leads to where.
Waymo interprets it's surroundings and like Tesla uses mapping. Although Waymo's map may be higher detail to simplify decision-making, the planning is end-to-end similar to V12 of FSD. Even if Tesla used HD maps like Waymo, they could not run. Tesla's perception stack requires extensive training with loads of data as a result of relying primarily on cameras while Waymo can simplify with near direct correspondence to LiDAR, using V2G, and using some cameras. Waymo is more advanced than FSDb since it uses an end-to-end planner unlike Tesla's neural network enhanced Monte Carlo tree search.
This is an excellent idea. Thank you.
+1 for Tesla vision!
Super interesting! Hope we see more of these, as things change. Regarding that Waymo price - I'm curious if anyone knows approx what a taxi fare would have been for this same trip?
It is cheaper than a real taxy driver if you are going to near places. In fact safer too!
Nice video! I thought Waymo was way closer than they are. They have a lot of work ahead of them.
IMO Waymo isn't a scalable solution. It seems like instead of learning to drive like AI would, it instead is being preprogrammed to drive. Maybe on a small scale it could work but as you expand, the amount of work required is larger and larger. Tesla mimics how a human would learn due to the use of vision.
Nothing says cutting edge like only letting your computer see in the visible spectrum just because "that's all humans use."
@@polarpenguin3nothing says cutting edge like a bunch of bulky pieces of hardware protruding from the vehicle and having no real AI that can think for itself without having a map preprogrammed into its hardware. fsd is simple, effective, scalable and not hideous. oh and u can own one and benefit from it in a multitude of ways.
@@polarpenguin3 it’s not the sensors that make it cutting edge. It’s the ability to think like a human with instant reaction time and constant attention on all angles of the road.
@@polarpenguin3 oh did Tesla hurt you .. cry more clown
Tesla started with radar units in the car, found they added no value to the capabilities and now don't fit them. Elon's philosophy has always been to get rid as much crap as possible, makes iteration faster and more efficient, hence why Tesla and SpaceX lead the world (by considerable margin) with their technology. Maybe switch on the rest of your brain before making stupid, ill informed statements.
Good stuff! Please more!
Thanks for your effort here. Look forward to more.
BTW- truly embarrassing performance by Waymo.
Very nicely done!
Tesla for the Win! I'm shocked how much longer Waymo required and the high price, wow!
It's a failed approach, they would need to map all the streets then strinks all those clunky hardware to fit into a normal car. The costs would make this system obsolete.
what are you paying for Waymo price? Did you buy the car for $200k including the software for billions of dollars? You do know Waymo picks busy routes to test right? They're trying to test the 0.01 cases where an accident will kill you.
@@markn6941 are you on the software team? You must be the president and decided that all street must be mapped. You do know google already mapped the whole planet 50 times already right? Drink Tesla coolaid more
@@chrisspamtest @Mark N is correct. While you correctly pointed out, Google had mapped many countries as you can easily see in their Street View. Waymo requires precise Lidar Mapping which is not the same used by Google Street View. That's the reason why Waymo deployment is so slow. You can only use it only on those roads that have been pre mapped and hope that nothing changes such as construction, adding additional lanes and so on. FSD can be deployed in any road even if the road was build the day before.
I've seen FSD navigate on dirt roads in a private property (about 40 acres of land). Roads that have never been mapped by anyone. I've seen FSD easily navigate a construction zone where they closed one side of the road and shifted the lanes to the other side of the road.
Don't get me wrong. FSD still needs more refining but having a system that right now you can deploy on any city of the US, is just amazing and so far ahead from others. This video is a perfect example why FSD general solution approach is much better than a localize approach.
@John Do Ypu don't know much about either systems, do you? Once tesla achieved general AI, Waymo and other mapping self driving technology will immediately become obsolete due to the costs of mapping and hardwares, while tesla only needs a few cheap cameras.
Thanks for your kind comparison contents for FSD!!! Your contents was introduced at Korean famous youtuber for Tesla, and he also linked your site url!!!
Very good presentation and content. Please keep them coming for every Tesla release as well :)
Great video. Nice to see a side-by-side comparison. Keep it up!
Fascinating content. Well done.
Thanks for this content ❤
Great comparison, thx
Great video, love your content! Cant wait till Waymo can navigate freeways!
Don’t hold your breath
With all those sensors its max speed will be 53 miles/h🤣
12:15 Waymo's right on red without stopping while opposing traffic had a green light was illegal and dangerous.
This video proves that Tesla FSD is no joke!
This is really great data. I am excited to see how the 11.4.1 release preforms if you can get access.
Awesome video, subscribed!
Fantastic job and better than the so-called journalists and media. Neural nets appear to be increasing the speed of improvement for FSD although they are behind in the beginning and end of the drive (i.e parking). I have access to Cruise and I'm on the waiting list for Waymo.
Great narration & concept, it also helps I've driven dome of those areas!
Thank you for this video, it was great.
excellent comparison
Wow! The narrative on this video is great!
Awesome video!!!!
Nicely done.
Gooood job. Your channel deserves a much bigger audience. It is almost to the scientific research level.
Such a great storyteller.
6:16 I love this part.
Fantastic video. Thank you
Great video!!
Great video, well done. subbed!
Thanks again and always 😉
Nice work!
Great videos!
Thanks Lorraine. You have the best Waymo-Tesla FSD Beta simultaneous drives. Wow. Waymo is expensive but I gather regular taxi service would be more. Autonomous vehicles should keep up with traffic if capable. When autonomous vehicles prevail, then they should go at the posted speeds. ❤❤❤Lotsa love to all from Toronto.
Uber would definitely cost more.
Okay, I should clarify. Taking a 54-minute Uber would cost more. Tesla's path would have been around $35 maybe
Great idea for a VS video! I’ve been wondering this exact thing.
Well, at least Waymo's time of arrival estimator works great! 🤣
love this channel, great work
Autonomous driving is the future.
The storey of the "The Hare & the Tortoise" begins
Nice job
very exciting. Thanks. I congratulate you on the 10000 subscribers! 🤗👍🍀🇨🇭
Greetings Wendelin
Thank you!!
@@CallasEV
very gladly😊
Great vid, thanks..
Great video, thanks for the effort! Tesla ftw.
great vid!
great video to compare Waymo and tesla FSD.👍
Yay it looks like your channel hit critical mass with this one!
Is Waymo charging by the minute? It would explain why they take the longest possible route.
Cruel!
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But probably correct!
Excellent video! Fantastic job of showing this comparison.
It would have also been cool to also see the screen where the Tesla shows what it is seeing and making decisions off of, but I know that wasn't exactly the focus of this video.
Great content, excellent production. Thank you!
Amazing!!!!
Great Job. Hope we can see it frequently with versions update. Please continue doing it. I just subscribed to your channel.
Google probably will sell the rides path to force people to see restaurants and shopping malls as part of the business. Even to see billboards and other saleable things in the ad world.
Thank you for this unbiased review.
Maybe you should try 11.4.1, it is by far the most significant update
Great comparison! I wonder how long Waymo will continue to avoid highways. I get they are afraid of high-speed collisions but it's ludicrous on trips like this.
Really looking forward to vids like this from SF, where we can get some challenging driving conditions.
Very impressive that Tesla's unbounded and far cheaper solution is besting Waymo here.
Great video! Waymo, FSD meet the scientific method .
Love your voice... Please don't take advertising from companies that will limit or restrict your opinions... Keep it up and not bias...
Love these vids! Please do a video per new Waymo and Tesla update!
Things i love:
* You visually highlighting the moments that prove that footage on both ends is done in parallel (ie. showing the other car in each of the footages), hence strong statement on the fact that it wasn't many takes.
* You vocally highlighting various events in both car experiences, as I'd miss some of them otherwise.
What could make these videos perfect (for me):
* Move tesla camera to completely capture the wheel, to capture zero (or non-zero) interventions. Also, add a camera (with a light) to capture the pedal area, for the same reason. Then overlay it in the right corner of the tesla footage. These two changes would give MUCH more credibility to the video. That would address my concerns of receiving criticism of sharing this video.
Thanks for your hard work!!
You can see if FSD is disengaged on the Tesla’s screen. Only thing we can’t know for sure is if the accelerator gets pressed, but this video seems pretty objective, so idk why they’d lie.
@@ian_bruh1 ehh... Seeing that disengagement message in the 95% cut off screen footage... I don't think that would satisfy an FSD critic - a footage of the wheel and the pedal would make stronger statements
Great video! Do more of these.
Great video! As for your question: I think self driving cars should follow the rules.
Great video! Very interesting and fun to watch. Also I got Neverending Story vibes from the music. Haha. Also there seemed to be some pretty strong stops by the waymo. Was that true or just an illusion of the video?
Wonderful~!!
It is never a comparison. Tesla is so far ahead. FSD in my opinion is Berger then most people now. Humans are crazy drivers.
Nicely done! Tesla driver already visits the museum while Waymo is still on its way😃 No wonder Waymo took so long connecting the regions. No the lack of Highway driving is a huge (time) disadvantage! Better use a real Taxi for those distances...
Great video. Can you expand the view of the camera inside the cars in the next vids? It would be nice if the Tesla camera captured the inside display. Also, it will be great if there is a continuous map roughly tracking both and maybe run a few journeys to compare on a sub-set of journeys.
The inside view covers all seats.
Absolutely amazing FSD assessment between both Tesla & Waymo well done. Congrats to the work Waymo have done within the confines of their system management but Tesla real world driving solution is quite frankly next level. I wish success to both companies attempting to create a sfe automated driving solution. Also NO Tesla should never speed up just because humans are ignoring speed signs as a robo-taxi safety should always be paramount over speed
Re: FSD vs Waymo. LiDAR is a throwback to the original DARPA Challenge when hi-res cameras weren’t available. Because of its lack of resolution (not needed on DARPA’s essentially off-road courses) Lidar’s basically become a technological boat anchor that will forever keep it from universal use.
7:50 Re: Relative Speed. All automated (or driven) cars should try to maximize separation, for safety’s sake, by attempting to match speeds with surrounding cars that are obviously part of “customary” traffic flows. Next time, maybe secure a Tesla Lyft/Uber for cost comparison ? Nice job!
Great vid, Tesla FSD did the trip with ease and speed, Waymo has such a long way to go, to get even near close to Tesla FSD.
Looks like Waymo is a bit limited map wise and why did it have to go through parking lots and neighborhoods. Tesla right now seems to be more efficient in trip travels. At least for that Phoenix area. At least they both got to the same destination.
Thanks for the video.
"A bit limited"?
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The fact that Waymo does not use freeways is the largest limiting factor. This is assuming that there is no traffic on the local streets. It would have been a much longer ride.
@@erichchan3 uhh no, they're picking busy streets for a reason. it's a test car with test program. Free way is easy. They're not using people for guinea pigs like Tesla, they're trying to catch the 0.01% edge cases that will kill you.
Every excuse to go slow which makes reaction times much easier to manage. Not a stupid strategy but a bit annoying when faster routes are available.
@@rogerstarkey5390 LOL. I didn't know how to word the Waymo event. Yes, the Waymo is quite map limited compared to Tesla FSD. take care.
Great video, really nice work with the editing and side by sides! Can you do some routes that don’t use highways to try to get a more apples to apples comparison since waymo can’t do highways yet?
Also, it’d help if you commented a bit on the ride comfort etc at the end. Thanks though really good work!