GoPro HERO 12 vs. GoPro MAX POV COMPARISON for SKIING!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Season 04, Episode 98 (day ten): hey squad - in this episode, we are going over the different field of view's that you get from the GoPro Hero 12 and GoPro MAX to hopefully help you in your GoPro buying journey.
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0:00 Intro
1:04 gopro max
3:31 hero 12 hyperview
6:33 hero 12 hyperview + nd
8:58 max lens mod 2.0
11:50 max lens mod 2.0 vertical
14:03 going over the footage + thoughts
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Thanks for the review ! Helpful. We need to do a better job on audio for POV. Sent this to our audio engineers :) One thing that's helpful is in the GoPro app you can "unwarp" hyperview to either a superwide linear or regular undistorted wide if you're an app user (soon for desktop app too!), or in premiere use FX Reframe to unwarp Hyperview and copy over your max settings to get something similar. That's what I'll be doing with my POV content. I should make a tutorial !
Thanks Abe! We could all benefit from a tutorial from you 🙌🏽🙌🏽 I was super impressed with max hyperview and definitely need to mess around with the fx reframe more on those clips. Thanks for all you do 🙏🏽
New Desktop App?? 👀👀
Tutorial on this for sure! Just got a hero 12 and max lens because of you 2😁🙏🏻
Do you always run the iso min and max at 100?🤔
I bought a GoPro Max after watching your ski videos. The audio comparison was unbelievable! Very happy with my Max. Great video, Lucas.
Stoked to hear that man 🙌🏽
The MAX was ahead of its time, the video is so good. I have an Insta360 as well, but the MAX’s smaller size means it is still my go to. Crazy for a 4+ year old action camera!
Thank you very much for your upload. Very well presented and carefully documented. Particularly interesting and informative are the specs and settings that you display before each shooting. Excellent, pro-grade work. Many thanks again!! I truly hope you enjoyed your skiing days up there.
That's really really helpful. I'm struggling between hero 12 and insta360 x3. 360 cam has it's own advantadge when it comes to POV shots.
Great review. Thanks for the detailed and different runs! I’ll wait for the max2 I think.
Fantastic breakdown of all the views and options. Thanks!! 👍
Great video man. As a production minded snowboarder who’s always struggled with making GoPro content look good I really enjoy the behind the scenes. Camera settings, color grading, editing, etc. kind of niche but would love to see more.
Have been waiting for a while for a video like this to come out on Lucas channel!! very stoked, especially sense you are one of the people that’s been able to grasp all the small features each go pro has to offer, making it much easier for the public to choose exactly what they need!!! Now waiting for Lucas to ski the horse again!
Hahah thanks man! Can’t wait to get kicked by the horse again
Awesome breakdown!! I'll be sure to try out all these different settings on the slopes this season. Can't wait to get back out on the ice! You're the man!
yessir man cant wait to see the videos
Thank you for this review!! This means a lot to me!!
Absolutely loved this style video, so insightful to see different FOV back to back like that! Thank you😁🙏🏻 also crazy to see how big of a difference the ND filter makes
glad it was helpful man!
The one with ND Filter ❤
Bro i learned soo much with this vid thank you
Thanks man this is the exact video I wanted this helps out a ton
Glad it was helpful!
A pro as always Lucas! Great review man, I have a 10 and the POV for social media is just not that great.
I have been waiting for the max 2 - Nick Woodman said ‘it’s worth the wait’ so it’s possible it drops this winter.
I like the 12 purely for the sense of speed. I also think for my use case as a more casual user that wants as little post processing work as possible it’s the best option. Thanks for the comparison 👍🏻
I love these types of videos!! keep it up!
Glad you like it!
Excellent video, highly informative. Just what you want from a review! Thanks bud!
Love this content Lucas! May have missed this, but did you have horizon lock on for your hero 12 + MLM? Was just reading that stability may be worse with horizon lock on. I have had it on so far and no issue
I really liked the version with the nd filter as well. Really cool video for someone, like me, who is going to play with a gopro for the first time.
Mammoth opens today. Waiting in line right now. Sucks I had to wait 3 months and 4 days to ski again and feel the STOKE. Decent terrain open for opening day. A long run from the top of Face Lift, down Saddle Bowl to Broadway.
I bet it’s awesome! Mammoth does it right for sure.
I haven’t skied since March 😢
Hopefully you get to ski soon.@@owen_som
These GoPro info videos are great.
Great vid especially cause I’m highly considering getting my first GoPro. Seems like if I’m just using for recreational use I should get the regular GoPro. But do u think it’s worth it to spend a bit more money for the 12 or just opt for the 11?
Love this. Great job!
Thanks man!
very nice video Lucas. I've been debating between the 2 for my new POV cam. I think the Max will take my channel to the next level!
Looking forward to little stoke a little poke in the POW
first time really doing a video like this and it was fun! wasn't a totally perfect comparison as I don't have a true side-by-side rig, but hopefully this provided some insight on the different FOVs you can get with some of the main wide angle modes!
would be happy to try and answer any other Q's this video might have sparked. so much more info regarding all of this stuff - coulda been a 1hr video!
What do you use for video editing? Thanks man
@@thatmarcusallen I am pretty sure he uses Adobe Premiere Pro, it's one of the only editing softwares that allows plugins to rotate the GoPro max footage!
@@thatmarcusallen adobe premiere pro
@@lukeacheson2224 Plug inside? I know what they are ... Like After Effects. Are you talking about GoPro Play as a codex converter?
Or...
When Lucas was rotating the Max Video in Premier, that was not Premier, but rather a plug in?
F-ing autocorrect! PLUGINS or PLUG-INS... 😂
Thank you! Super helpful information, sold me on the 360 camera, but thinking of going with the Insta360 x3 until a newer Max version comes out haha
All good choices!!
Is a case neccesary? If so what case can I use to protect the lens and gopro if I were to buy the 12 with the lens. Thanks!
Bless you bro!🔥 Killed it with this video!
Haha thanks Shane!
This was awesome. I really want to see a full video on your editing workflow!! I have a Hero 11 but wish I would have gone for the Max. Now I hate to buy one because it seems like GoPro will be updating next year sometime. Have you ever tried the chest mount instead of helmet? I like being able to look down and see 100% for sure that it is recording and doing what I think it is.
Thanks Dan! I should do an editing video it just seems like it would be so long haha. The max 2 is definitely gonna be a beast so just up to you but I think the max is still great. I’ve never tried the chest mount but I am always taking my camera off my helmet before each run to ensure it’s set properly. I take a lot of time to film haha
Trouble I have with a chest mount is that my hands are so prominent in the shot. I’ve had a few days with chest mount where I’m disappointed by footage since the hands are so distracting!
You gave me much needed help in trying to narrow down my choice. Please give me your input on which one to choose from. I run a car club and we travel through the mountains but no one films our cruises. These things aren't cheap, so I want to make the best choice from the start. We do day trips only and they last about 2 hours max. I'd like to be able to film the cars in front of me and behind me simultaneously(if possible). It would be great if there was an outside mount that could rotate but that might be wishful thinking. I just don't know what to do but I've narrowed all of it to these 2 choices you presented. Please give me you thoughts!
Hey again Lucas, I’m literally torn between these two so thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
Hope it helped!
Hiya, Love your videos like always. I have a question about the app that you're using for the gopro; what's the name of it and where can i install it?
cheeers
KL
Great Stuff. Was considering getting a camera for our ski trips but was worried about helmet mount vs other mounting options. I am not doing extreme stuff like you but I am tall and when in trees I tend to hit lower branches so thought mounting on chest would be better. Would be cool to see the difference view from different mounts.
i would definitely make sure you mount on the front of the helmet like i showed in this video! might make it so it isnt as high on your helmet!
Stoked for the next week. So Many openings. I have a hero 7 right now fo you think i should upgrade.
yes i think anything less than a hero 11 is a massive improvement.
Such a helpful video. I’ve been planning to get the 12 and was debating about the mod upgrade lens. Your video was so perfectly timed since I had not pulled the trigger on buying it yet and will do it this weekend. GoPro should send you some commissions :)
if you get the 12, i absolutely recommend the MLM2.0! and haha i dunno if i did the best job tbh but my intentions were pure.
Thanks!
Thanks man. I know exactly what GoPro I’m getting. The max imo is best for what I’ll be doing. Just riding my atv at the dunes and trails.
What is the editing software that ur using in the last part?
Can the GoPro Hero 12 film in 16:9 and 9:16 at the same time? I would hate to only film in vertical and lose the horizontal footage
Great video!
Thanks man!
It's very important to make videos like this. Loved it! I have a question if I want to make videos for myself and my family what gopro should I buy? Hyped for tomorrows video!
I would recommend the hero 12 with the max lens mod 2.0 for sure!!
@@LucasCatania17 Thanks man. Love the work and hustle!
Currently rocking a Hero 10 and making it work, but for my money, that Hero 12 + MLM 2.0 + ability to use an ND is looking awesome!
I think you and Abe are somewhat of an army of two when it comes to the stuff you guys make with a Max. The other max footage I've seen is nowhere near to being on par, and the Insta360 x3 is probably a better camera tbh. Really enjoyed this video and the insights, I might grab a H12 bundle over Black Friday :D
Yessir honestly the 12 is a huge upgrade compared to the 10. And the MLM2.0 just introduces tons of other benefits that almost gives you a mini max haha
And I appreciate that! Abe leveled up my MAX game and I really love what I can get out of it now! Thanks bro
Hsu windslayer is what I use when snowmobiling or biking and it really cleans up the audio,leave it on auto
Yah I use that for all my mountain biking videos
One of these will be my first action cameras for cycling. Would you still pick the Max?
Really cool to see the comparison. Any idea why the audio wasn’t great on the 12?
I just think any camera mic struggles a lot with that much wind. I would recommend a wind slayer or foam piece like I use for mountain biking!
Did you fell your head heavy because of the gopro?
Welcome Back To Colorado Man!
Thank you!
I personally really loved the hyperview + nd but it sucks that it doesn't control the exposure so the footage in the shade isn't the best. Is there anyway to get that similar, immersive footage using the gopro max? (I don't really know how it would be possible but I'm planning on buying an action camera for this upcoming season)
You could still have the exposure controlled if you set the shutter to auto and increased the iso max to something like 400! Locking the shutter at a specific speed like I did there will make it so I am guaranteed the correct motion blur, but if you still wanted the auto control that the GoPro gives - you could slap the ND filter on and leave the shutter at auto!
Great Video👍🏽
Thank you!
Hi Lucas, could you or anyone give me the link to the helmet mount for the hero 12 please?
Hey Lucas, I shoot (nothing like you) with a Hero 12. Would it be better for me to film in super view vs hyper to minimize the distortion or is the wider image worth the hyper distortion?
Great vid as always!!
it really all comes down to preference. as abe said in the pinned comments, you can actually take away some of that distortion with the app!
@@LucasCatania17 ok so would that option on the app be a post production thing versus a camera setting? Because linear would be nice.
That ND filter footage is stunning. Might have to get me an ND filter for my footage. It looks so professional
yeah i love NDs!
Any advice on if I should wait for the Max 2 or just get the max 1
Up to you! The max 2 is gonna be a beast I’m sure but not really sure when it’s gonna come out!
would love to learn more about how to edit out the distortion on the GoPro max 360
Check out Abe Kislevitz on TH-cam !
Hi Lucas, what is the program you are using at 14:00 in the video? Thank you in advance!
Adobe Premiere Pro
Great review thanks! I wanna buy a GoPro for my bf this Christmas but I’m still unsure with what I would go with and I wanna buy it this week since there are really good discounts. I like the 360 videos but the resolution is way better with hero 11. And there’s the hero 12 too. He would probably take videos on his snowmobile and on his motocross. We go skiing and snowboarding once in a while too and it’s the first time he’s gonna be using a GoPro. He doesn’t really like editing either so I’m probably gonna be the one doing it but I’m a beginner. What would you recommend I buy?
i would recommend you buy the hero 11 or the hero 12 with the max lens mod 2.0!
@@LucasCatania17that was my thought exactly when I was reading her comment. I was thinking the her 11 or the 12, but since they are new to action cameras I’d personally lean more towards the 11 if I were them. Either way though, the 11 or 12 would be perfect for her and her boyfriend. That being said, if I’m being really honest, if she could find a place that sells them, I would even recommend a hero 9 or 10. Those are insanely good cameras with almost all the same features as the newest GoPro models (the 11, 12, and Max). You could probably get a Hero 9 for super duper cheap and then use that extra money you saved to buy some accessories. Because we all know that you can’t dive into the world of GoPro and action sports cameras without becoming a accessory addict! LOL I’m joking, but not really! Haha. No but for real, I’d do a hero 9 and then take that left over few hundred bucks and buy a decent sized 512 GB microSD card or maybe a few smaller ones (instead of one bigger one), buy an extra battery or two (because I guarantee you’ll end up needing more than one battery), and then buy a few different handles and/or mounts. Trust me, if this is her boyfriends first action camera, all the items I just mentioned are all things you guys will end up buying anyway. I think a lot of people go into buying GoPros and action sports cameras thinking they can just buy the camera and they’re good to go. Lots of people don’t realize you need to buy a storage card, a pole or handle, etc. I guess what I’m saying is maybe if someone had a tighter budget, who was also brand new to world of action sports camera, going with a hero 9 or 10 and then buying some accessories…. Is the way to go. I dunno 🤷🏻♂️, though. I’m just a random dude on the internet voicing his thoughts! 👊🏼👊🏼
@TheCureThatKillz anything below a hero 10 is a major upgrade to the 11 and 12 in my opinion. The 8:7 resolution and hyperview mode that you get with the 11 and 12 is a game changer especially for skiing.
Hey Lucas,
in your opinion Max Lens Mod for hero 10 is enough to have good POV videos like on Hero Max?
The max lens mod on the hero 10 won’t be as wide as something like hyperview that I showed in the video, but definitely your best option for the hero 10!
For sure but hero10 is fine for me, I don't want to spend money on hero 12. For me POV shots are most important, thats why I asked about max lens. Do u think in my case it’s worth to wait for gopro max 2.0?
You edit in adobe premiere ?
Hey Lucas. I would like to ask you, why you choose on the "hyperview GoPro 12" frame rate 24 and not higher? You used the best resolution with the less frame rate. I used today your settings on my GoPro 12. At the beginning i thought i messed up but later on my pc i was happy about results. Please let me know. Thanks!
Do you know why/when you would want to use a higher frame rate? Let’s start there
@@LucasCatania17 Do you have any video explaining every frame rate setting? Showing the differences when you skiing? Thank you.
Damn I wish I saw this before 😂😂😂 I’m about to go on my trip
I like both of the cameras, but I think the 12 is a bit better, nice vid!!
Yes the 12 is sick!!
Do your ND filters in the link fit your GoPro Hero 12?
yeah!
Very very interesting, thanks ! I own both the Max and the 12 with Max 2.0, and I’m too surprised by the quality of the « old » GopPro Max. It’s colors are way better than the Insta 360, that I find ugly (cyan skies, greens rendering..)
Question about the GoPro Max setting: How can you have 5.3k resolution and HYPERSMOTH ON? Cant find hypersmoth when Im not in "Hero Mode". Would be really happy if someone tell me how to turn on Hypersmoth with high resolution (5.3K)
You are correct. If you are in 360 mode, there is no hypersmooth option. It is just automatically enabled. That is my mistake
Very interesting video. I feel like with the 360 camera could make up for a lot of my poor camera work.
I also like the idea that I could make 2 separate videos of my kids on the same run.
yeah it sdefinitely a forgiving camera!
Would love to see a video like this with the Insta360. Especially best video settings for skiing.
I’m sure they are out there! I’ve never used an insta360 so not much help there
I'm pretty sure Lucas is sponsored by GoPro; so I don't think he'll be doing that comparison.
@@briankrische3364 i am not sponsored by GoPro but maybe one day!
Its too bad you cant get the ND filter on top of the max lens mod because the FOV really is miles better. I have a hero 7 that i barely use at this point just cuz its so annoying trying to get a good angle, half the time i do a run the frame is completely off. It does ok with rhe chin mount on my full face mtb helmet but 360 cameras really are a step above when mounted on top
That plus the hero 7's incompatibility with cold weather batteries has me really thinking about trading it in at this point
I would say the GoPro hero 11 and up are miles better than any other previous GoPro - especially the 7!
You like horizon lock or no?
I don’t really like horizon lock for skiing but it definitely has its uses!
Is it just me or did him putting on the ND32 filter to the Hero 12+ drastically cut down the wind noise? Anyone else notice that? Or am I just loosing my mind? Most likely the latter! 👊🏼
So dope
Thanks Chris!
Have a great weekend! 🤟🏼
Likewise bro!
Its not gonna be long until your shorts catch fire which brings more people to watch your vids and then boom 100k. Right to the east coast!
Haha 70k I’m telling you. If we’re lucky
@@LucasCatania17nah bro youll be in vermont by christmas
Am I alone in thinking the new hero12 shots looked blurry? I’m casting to my 65” tv and it just looks a bit off to me compared to all previous episodes.
interesting! looked good on my end!
@@LucasCatania17 i dont know if blurry is the right term, but like digitized instead of real, something just a little bit off. i watched another skier posted video of this alien cam he was using, and he looked like a video game character to me, not a real person. that was the feeling i had watching the hero12 footage. just my 2 cents. love the channel, watch daily, counting down the days til my colorado and tahoe trips this winter.
Am I seeing things or did the MLM darken up the footage a bit? Does it have a bit of tint to it, almost like a mini-ND?
Because we are putting a different glass in front of the sensor, there could be color shifts or other things. I find it looks a lot sharper!
@@LucasCatania17 I thought the same thing, and I'm wondering if it darkened it up enough to bring in the motion blur like you can with the ND filter... Have you ever manually set the shutter speed for it?
@ 8:38, the shadows make it look like like you were about to get taken out by that snowboarder 👀.
Yeah I know! Luckily he went behind
Where you shredding at?
Keystone!!
This was filmed at keystone in Colorado
MAX GoPro pleaseeeee. 🥴
Yessssir
We have the Max and Hero 11. Setting GRX 👍. Needed that. ND does let you slow it up and get the blur 👍. Needed that too.
In post: GoPro Play converts the Max codex to MPEG-4 (and others), yet still retains the ability in Premier to Pan, Tilt and Zoom in 360?
How much color correcting do you do to match between cameras. And are you saving the settings (in your "bag of tricks") to drop on the timeline? Say, a folder for low light with pre-set color correct for each camera. Then one for sunny, etc.
How much do you have in your "bag of tricks" to pre-set transitions, font, the upper right bug, etc...? And how much does this aid with speed of editing?
Just some dive deep questions...no biggie? 😂
It would be a bitch, but a 15 min. vid on, not editing, the general set-up to get ready to edit.
Tanks Mang,
Bob
- yes that is correct - i am still rendering out a 360 file from gopro player. i dont do my reframing in gopro player.
i dont necessarily have presets for low light and things like that, i usually manually color correct everything as that is my favorite part of the process
i have a bunch of presets and templates at this point that helps me turn the videos around within 24 hours. definitely need to do a video on all this at some point hah
An editing 101 video is not a good use of your time, as TH-cam is full of them. And every system comes with tutorials.
I would invite you to consider... A video, such as in this discussion (and several others in this string) showing these things. Your process. Your tricks (presets, etc.). Would be most helpful. As a bonus, it is a video we are interested in, You. And therefore similar in stokeness to skiing...for you. Therefore us
-Bob-
Steez Catania
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The only thing I noticed between the 2 was that the wind noise was louder on the 2nd camera..
I didn't really notice anything with that ND filter
The max lens mod 2.0 seamed pretty cool
the ND filter produces motion blur. look closely at the snow and ground around me
@@LucasCatania17 thank you.. your eyes are trained and mine aren't.. i am gonna check out your Vail video and we can compare notes to my BRECK day..
Go pro max 👌🏾
So good 🙌🏽
Was ski patrol yelling at yall coming through there? Couldn’t understand what he was saying
No they were talking to each other that they should put another patroller at the top of the hill
@@LucasCatania17 oh ok that’s good lol I was gonna say! if they were yelling at yall then they shoulda put someone further up cuz they weren’t visible enough.
Switching to this account. 👍
-Bob-
Sup bob!
Hero 12 felt a little too zoomed in too me.
yeah agree
Yeww
Yew!
I just don’t want to buy a GoPro Max because I know the max two is coming out.
The max 2 is gonna be sick
Yo
sup
gpro 12 + lens looks better
#gopromaxforlife
love my max!
So in conclusion
GoPro Max or Insta 360 >>>>>> Any GoPro / DJI standard camera
But if you want smaller file sizes
GoPro 12 + Max Mod 2.0 is better
That’s one way to put it!
Recording in portrait mode is a mortal sin
For me Hyperview is sooo bad, the distortion is ridiculous, it makes the image look like a low quality cam
Nothing compare with gopro Max
Damn how did this get to 224K likes already!
Nah bro why did it say 224k…💀
😂😂
Oh hell nah that said 224k! Lol I’m rolling on the floor right now bro!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤨
Phenomenal comparison and editing video📷 I did like the Max the best as well... ⛷ Enjoy Vail ❄
Thanks Mike! Glad you liked it!